Unmodified Monotub CVG TEK: The Simplest way of Growing Mushrooms at Home, With Open Air Inoculation
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2023
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These are tools & supplies I use to grow, from inoculation to harvest:
*Remember, you may already have many of these items at home, I try to use common household items as often as possible.
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Thanks for checking this out! Hope it helps you grow however you need to in life.
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Some additional thoughts/information if you’re interested:
Grow kits are overrated… This isn’t my TEK, but it is my favorite one. It’s a roughly replicated of “BOD's Easy AF UnBODified Monotub” tek. Thank you Bods! Mushroom growing is likely far easier than you might think, if you haven’t tried it yourself.
From start to finish, mushrooms can be grown faster than fruits & vegetables (with the exception of Microgreens, of course, mushrooms have protein though). They require less energy, maintenance, and water to grow too (they like the same temperatures humans do), making them have lower climate impact than most farming/gardening. Also easier to grow indoors, as climate change accelerates and makes outdoors less favorable for growing plants. Coco Coir actually absorbs Carbon Dioxide too, making it a pretty environmentally conscious source of substrate, not to mention you can inoculate with colonized grain/rice in open air, no vent hood required.
A look at how I cultivate and harvest mushrooms using coco coir and unmodified mono tub tek - More videos to follow about coir prep, grain prep, etc. Some real Hamilton's Pharmacopeia stuff, the all natural stuff...
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Shoeboxes and pure coco substrate is the easiest for me.
Shoeboxes must be ideal for most people’s needs, including my own. Everything would be so much easier, more economical, less waste, still get multiple flushes. Not too mention less of a loss if contamination hits. I’ll definitely be more focused on small grows in future videos.
Jar growing, Ben’s tek, reusing “single use plastic” containers, definitely more practical for the average homegrower. Not to mention lower risk on all levels.
Appreciate the comment, and the wisdom. I’m sure I failed to mention this can be scaled down to any size, and that is a critical point to realize for any independent subsistence homegrower. Thank you!
@@floki-man I feel like if you do the shoebox and fill it up like at least 2/3 full having the lid closer helps. Kinda like how side pins grow. Having the lid closer to the substrate and that smaller gap to lid creates good conditions. At least in my case. Mush love
P.s. For those new to the shoebox method after cracking the lid to induce pinning I will leave that lid on and let the mushrooms grow up to the lid and sometimes leave the lid and let them push it up but if they are gonna big, once they hit the top I will do the dub tub technique and mist the top tub.
@@g-man9684 brilliant technique. Mush love, thanks again!
@@floki-man 🙏🤙
@@floki-man I'm LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR Up And COMING VIDEOS 🍄🤍THANK YOU I CANT WAIT TO GROW I'm Just CONCERNED ABOUT SOME TYPE OF PARASITE THAT GETTING INTO EVERYTHING THEY LOOK EXACTLY LIKE HAIR, BUT I HAD TO PROVE THAT I WASN'T GOING CRAZY AND SHOW HOW THEY GROW FROM THE SIZE OF A GRANULE Of SALT AND STRETCH AND CONNECT WITH EACH OTHER.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE BUT THEY TAKE OVER EVERYTHING AND EVEN SQUEEZE THROUGH THE POLLI FILL AIR HOLES.
Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. Imagine carrying heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
Absolutely life changing natural medicine. I agree, and online sources seem confident decriminalization is coming any year now. Hope it bankrupts and eliminates the pharmaceutical pain/depression industry within a year. They deserve it. Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad they helped you, but legalization will never happen as they could actually help people. That would not be in the interest of the powers that be
Disagree. Cannabis paved the way.
@@floki-man Agree to disagree. Can't compare apples to oranges
@@diegolord4206 you can though. They’re different but still fruits. They have characteristics that are identical. And are regulated the same way despite being different fruits. Thank you for making the comparison as easy as it gets.
Holy shit that float method was dope. Never seen that before. Hydrate & harvest in the same time.
When I first found the tek online, had to try it. I like it a lot. The fruits come out so clean, no substrate to clean off either. Thanks for watching!
7:00 "I'm also on these mushrooms, as I narrate this video- because, why not?!" Haha! Beautiful! I love it! 🙏
@bob1881 I wondered if anyone caught that Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching! 🫡
Nice!
“I’m currently on these mushrooms” lol get it bud. Very nice harvest
Thanks for checking it out!
Love the method, gonna give it a shot. Some advice… I know they were side pins and a bit hard to get but you’ll find all mushrooms come off a lot cleaner and easier if you twist them ‘Counterclockwise’. I learned that the hard way, my very 1st substrate was mangled and the 2nd one I twisted counter and they came off like a dream. Thanks for the video! ❤️🍄❤️
Interesting methods! Thank you for the great video.
Thank you for watching and commenting, it means a lot! Hope to improve quality of grows and videos, and maybe create new upcycling/recycling teks along the way… I bet mycelium loves old bread…
Not started my first grow yet as wanted learn as much as i could first in as shorter time as possible lol ive watched easy over 50 videos in 2 days 😀 im 30 seconds into this one and i have to say U FLOKI ARE THE MAN 😮❤❤
@wheremylifego3790 You are very kind for commenting, thank you. I try to keep it simple, I learned from others videos and blogs too, I realize many just want to be the best at copying some fictional standards just because it’s the way they’ve always done it because someone else always did that.
I prefer to help people in need grow food and medicine as simply and efficiently as possible.
Every human has the right to take care of themselves nutritionally and mentally at the lowest possible cost, especially when our governments and corporations are working their hardest to get rich fast above all else.
Hope you don’t wait too long to start growing, it’s amazing to watch, and accomplish. The fruits are the least rewarding part of mycology 🫡
@FlokiGoodman legend 🙌 thank you for taking the time to reply, very wise words....all of which taken firmly on board ❤️👊🏻thank you kind sir 😊
awesome video! i hope to see more content!
Much more on the way, and always with the objective of making it as simple and affordable as possible. Spores, grains, and coir should be the only supplies you need to purchase regularly….But maybe you don’t even need to buy grains if you can sterilize use old expired leftover rice for grain spawn… so much left to explore and share.
Thank you for watching, and thank you for the support.
those fruits have stunning caps
Definitely interesting, they’d probably started dropping spores by the time I did this, adding some black depth to the color. Could’ve harvested slightly earlier. Thanks for watching!
Small bread knife, it is my favorite out of all knives i own. Great for anything from cutting meat to harvesting mushies. Bread knives are serrated but with larger serrations which is great for softer materials like tomatoes.
@mooseBanner absolutely. I thought initially just super sharp smooth blade would be best, just binds up. Serrated is the magic for mushrooms.
I’ve purchased 14” blade chefs bread knife for sourdough breads, might be real quick for harvests. Razor sharp
Nice flush!
Thanks!
Your side pins are glorious man
They were in every way. Thank you.
hope you're having a great day
You too! Thanks!
Installing a small valve at the bottom of the tub would nake water transfer easier and faster. Interesting fllood to harvest technique, thanks!
Sure, it could work. I do wonder if a valve would hold and hide enough water/bacteria to cause contamination if you can’t clean it well. Maybe just a rubber/cork plug would be enough. Easy to use and clean. Thanks for watching, and sharing ideas! Much appreciated!
Great video. Very helpful.
Thank you!
Yes.
Thank u. I was wondering if this was possible
Absolutely! Thanks for checking it out, and commenting.
I'm absolutely rolling....
Awesome 🫡
I completely submerge my subs in COLD water for at least an hour after each flush. It seems to shock them into fruiting again quicker and also rehydrates them. Side pins can be minimized by lining your tote with black plastic...not to block light but as the sub shrinks, it will stick to plastic instead of leaving a gap, discouraging pins.
@7munkee Nice, I imagine cold water would be fine for this too, possibly better. Do you use unmodified tubs as well?
I think the original tek suggested warm. Viscosity of water may not change that much warm vs cold. The stumps do pull in a lot of water, and it does start to sink without submerging.
Absolutely agree the key to side pin prevention is preventing a gap from forming around substrate, it’s very easy to fill & pack gaps with coir/casing material as substrate shrinks.
I think there’s no real need for plastic liners if you can check tubs regularly.
Appreciate the ideas, I like the energy savings of using cold water vs. hot too. Money saver. Thanks!
Colder water has more oxygen in it so that makes sense 👍✌️🤙
Great video 😊
Thank you! Appreciate the support
Lol I love that you left the hork moment when the water hit your mouth 😂😂
At least it just mycelium water! Not gas lol I have been there.
I try to leave the moments that make me laugh at myself most when editing. Not always sure they’ll be seen as funny by others, so I appreciate the feedback! Thanks for watching
Oh yeah, and I think diesel is worse than gas for sure, so thick. Really stays with you for days
Bravo!
Thank you!
Good video. I use poop, but no wrong answers when it comes to a nice canopy like that. I'd be real happy with that harvest.
I hope to try poop myself sometime, seems like a great free/practically free mushroom superfood. Appreciate the support, thank you.
@@floki-man Try black kow if your in the right area you can get 50lbs for $5! I could be wrong but I feel poo lovers like blue magnolias potency increases with manure
I put bubble wrap on top after mixing grains in subsrate to mimic leaves on forest floor. By the way the substrate will shrink because shrooms are sucking all moisture out of it.👍✌️🤙
Nice, cool idea for sure. Agreed it will shrink, but if I’d packed it tighter in this tub it would’ve shrunk less. Probably would’ve been half the substrate thickness shown here.
Great video. youtube recommendations worth it for once :)
Awesome, thank you!
Love the floating harvest, helps with rehydrating the cake for next flush. Great video 👍
Thank you!
Lovely growing. My opinion is the side pins are where there is more moisture and light. More misting on top.
I think testing direct solar heating during colonization kept edges warmer than core too, colonized faster than core.
PS: Thank you for not being the thousandth person to say liners is the only way to grow.
@@floki-man Just trial and error for me, I tried painting the lower 1/3 of the tub black on the outside.
So soak the cake before harvesting might get you in 100 club sooner! niiice Mr. BlueThumb has a tek where he took a couple bbq/kabob skewers and shoved them through the cake to allow the side pins to grow more after the harvest... and it worked great!
Oh nice, thanks for the info!
A nice sharp straight razor is perfect for ANY kind of plant matter
Not my experience on this flush density, "tomato" knife is awesomest.
Wow. That is side pin spaghetti. Nice technique.
It was slightly awkward to harvest. If I’d packed the substrate in tightly, it may have prevented side pins entirely.
I vehemently disagree that this is the simplest method. That honor belongs to bag cultivation 100%, with the spawn to bulk and complete neglect tek till harvest method. Dunking is a breeze as well, simply add water to the bag and pour out when finished, zip-tie closed and neglect again till the next harvest.
Good video, you earned a sub from this old man 😁
Btw, as far as knives go for harvesting your cake, a bread knife works wonders!
I generally avoid buying non-reusable plastic, why I prefer jars and tubs. I’m sure the bags can probably be reused too. Just haven’t purchased any myself so far.
I believe you about bread knife, I purchased a 14” professional bread knife to try and harvest in 1 pass in future.
Appreciate the knowledge, and the subscribe!
@@floki-man you are correct in your assumption, the bags can be reused several times. I run 16 at a time, and about 2yrs ago I ran an experiment as to whether they can be re-used, and how many times. I washed them in the sink with hot water and Dawn dish soap. It worked like a charm! I re-used all 16 for a dozen runs, after that I retired them. Im sure they could be used more, but I felt that was sufficient for my experiment. There was no rise in tam rate, and both the bags and filter patches held up.
This is fucking beautiful dammit!! Keep it up with the hard wok
Thank you, DAMNIT!!! I’ll do my best. Thanks for watching & commenting!
Hey, 3:18 just a tip, you want to use as cold as possible water because it tells the mycelium that it is winter, time to freeze, but then it quickly warms up and they think it is a spring thaw happening.
They come back in much stronger force if you use cold or ice water while rehydrating them, then just drain it all off and let em warm up.
I suppose you could also chill the substrate with refrigeration/freezer briefly to achieve the same thing after soaking and draining?
What strain is the ones in the 2nd tub that didn't have the side pins?! That was a nice flush you had there brother! If my tub produces anywhere near that I'll be estatic!!
B++, thanks for checking it out! It certainly wasn’t a perfect flush, but it was pretty sweet.
I think this method might change my life
@lazyjain That’s what I hoped others would recognize too! Hope to test growing a tub of lions mane sometime… imagine how many meals you’d grow in just a couple months or less 😂
This TEK (original found titled “Bods TEK”)Made growing so much easier in my experience. Super low contamination risk (until after a couple flushes…if you don’t dry it enough after harvesting risk increases hard, people suggesting drain holes may also realize that would help drain excess water for days reducing contamination risks further).
Also super low maintenance fruiting (zero maintenance when colonizing, unless you notice dry spots (unlikely)). Can potentially check, mist, fan as infrequently as every 24 hours (definitely check every 12 hours when possible, don’t stress if you can’t).
Especially in dry climates, like lower than 30-40% humidity, this is so easy. When I tried to use shotgun fruiting chamber with PF TEK in Albuquerque New Mexico (high desert climate), misting even 7-8 times a day seemed in adequate. Only fruited at interface between cake and foil (highest humidity area).
Damn I can ramble. Working background on a tv show tonight. Not much going on.
Thanks for watching and commenting! Hope to share more soon, probably prioritize smaller grows unless for food mushrooms in future.
Invented (as far as I know) and filmed a long “Leftovers TEK” video last year, hopefully share full video soon. Preview short video here:
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Hey, that's a very nicely shot video.
I was gonna say that's a lot of stumps left behind.. am I wrong in having the idea they are quite strong in psylo? Or maybe it's just from the bruising when harvesting actually..
Interesting point on those stumps making for a perfect micro climate. Any chance you could elaborate? Something to do with a low layer of CO2 maybe? Similar to a casing?
Thanks for watching! Yeah, some stuff left behind, I could’ve cut lower. But you also risk having dirty stumps to clean sub off of if you cut too low.
Microclimate is as simple as: with stumps there, air is a bit more stagnant, so may have higher humidity than above the stumps. Which can encourage new pinning. Kind of like a casing layer.
A good chefs knife that is properly sharpened is worlds better than a serrated knife in all situations.
I thought so too, until I tried it on a floating substrate forest. I think blade thickness is a major factor when cutting grippy things. The tapered steel of a chefs knife binds up when you’re cutting greater depth than blade. Since full edge thicker than cutting edge.
@@floki-manTry an opinel pocketknife, they're very thin carbon steel with no secondary bevel, so you don't get the wedging effect of a thick knife. Also easy to sharpen. I always carry one going intoo the woods looking for mushrooms.😊
@@floki-man I was thinking. I have this thin diameter fish filleting knife. It is very sharp and flexible to get down low on those trunks.
@@ErickvdK Fish filleting knife, long and thin and sharp.
Great video!.. I love the look of the little pointed nipple caps on the ones that side pinned in the first tub, Could you tell me what strain they were please? 🙌🏻
@HoodedCrow100 Thank you so much for watching and commenting! That was a very cool looking shape for sure, Roatan Honduras 🇭🇳
@@floki-manThanks for letting me know!..Trying to track down some Roatan Honduras spores in the UK but they seem rather elusive over here, might have to try and get some shipped from abroad if I can find them. 🍄🧐
@@HoodedCrow100 hope to be a supplier myself someday. Been some years since I purchased those spores, pretty sure it was from mushrooms dot com. Potentially 3 years ago…
Use a black liner, or liner of some sort. Color really don’t matter. But also a liner will help with the micro climate and focus energy to the top of the cake for your pin set. Just my two cents hope it helps. Wasn’t trying to insult you just trying to help. A fellow Military veteran whose hobby is myco-life for treatment of my ptsd.
Yeah, I know that’s standard approach. But it’s also really not necessary if the coir/substrate is well packed initially. Honestly I’m surprised there haven’t been more comments about this, usually get all the “experts” scolding me pretty quickly. Definitely not insulted, and it’s certainly a valid option. I just prefer keeping it simple, using less plastic when I can. Glad you found mycology too, it’s an amazing hobby more veterans would benefit greatly from learning. Thank you for watching & commenting 🫡
@@floki-man for maximum efficiently would you guys prefer liners even though its not needed? wondering if its a waste of time, liners promoting micro climates and bigger pin yields makes alot of sense if its shooting all the co2/oxygen upwards since it has no where else to go even when the cake starts to shrink. im only interested in high yield and also do you guys see a big difference when you use perilite or not when fruiting ?
@@floki-man my first run my cakes shriveled alot and i got major side pin clusters on both, ill deffinitely give it a better pack next time, and someone should create an organic liner company for mushrooms lol because youre right about the plastic especially with heat introduced. yuck
Maybe misting more frequently, or reducing fresh air exchange would help reduce shrinkage too.
I think liners are a waste of time and plastic, and interesting you bring up CO2: coco coir actually sequesters/stores/absorbs CO2, which may also be why coco coir works so well in unmodified tubs. Misting and fanning every 12 hours when fruiting. Doesn’t get much easier than that.
Thank you for this video. What temperature do you keep them at while colonizing?
Thank you for watching! Just room temperature, 68-76F depending on winter/summer.
@@floki-man thank you.
Can you please advise how you do the air exchange during fruiting stage ?
Pinning, fruiting are basically the same with this tek. Check tub every 12 hours if you can, mist a little, fan a little. If it looks dry every 12 hours, mist a little more, fan the same. It’s very very forgiving too. The crack from having the lid on upside down seems to maintain a perfect humidity level for me, I think I’ve gone over 24 hours without checking once fruited, didn’t really look like they missed me at all.
My ambient humidity can be as low as 10-20%, so low FAE helps a lot. Higher ambient humidity, maybe you only need to check every 24 hours. Or maybe you need to fan twice as much. A small hygrometer/humidity monitor will help remove the guess factor for you.
when the boxes are in fruiting do you open and release the air?
@electrobeats759 absolutely, check and fan a little 1-2 times a day. Mist bed fan if anything looks dry, or if substrate looks dry pour a little water down sides to kind of “bottom water” if you don’t want to get caps too wet. If once a day is all you can do, it’s pretty forgiving at fruiting.
how many grams did you get out of that bigger harvest? that's a giant pile of mushrooms lol. would you say that's about 1 pound dry?
It was surprising how quickly it felt like that pile grew. Honestly couldn’t tell you the harvest total, hadn’t even thought about it in a while.
Now that I’ve thought about it, I do think I remember filming total weight just decided not to include it. Less commercial focused more subsistence.
Can’t guarantee anything, maybe a sequel to this is due answering the unanswered questions like this, maybe other footage I didn’t include
@@floki-man I am thinking about doing a 46-quart long storage container for my first grow. I am hoping mine will look like yours. I have others that will go in a 12 quart.
Amigo, you should edit this video because the comment that, "you should wait till you see the veil start to tear to harvest them," is very bad advice.
See, some strains can grow up to another 4 inches after the veil tears. I have seen it. The best thing to do is to keep an eye on them and wait till the cap starts to open up a bit after it completely stops growing outward. Also, it is good to completely understand the particular mushroom strain that you are dealing with and how it grows.
I said what I said because I wished I’d harvested a day or 2 earlier when less spores had dropped. No edits needed. You’re not wrong either. Thanks for watching
Nice full canopy! What’s the substrate recipe?
it says cvg. Coco, vermiculite and gypsum. I've had plenty great flushes with pure coco coir.
I primarily only use coco coir, mixed with about 4x coir weight. Water volume varies slightly with different coir suppliers, check field capacity as you can. Put coir in cooler box, dump measured amount of boiling water into coir (cooler box tek) add boiling water, wait overnight. Impossible to get wrong, unless your scale is off… video demonstrating this process will be on the way.
I may have added some vermiculite in tubs in this video to get rid of my last bit from PF TEK days. Today, 100% coir.
Love the fact you said 100% coir these days for substrate! Surety for us lazy mycos who don't want to mix gypsum/Verm- pretty work,thank you again for sharing your well-spring of knowledge friend 🙏 Boundless Love & Light to you
What kind of light are u using
Just some simple LED strips that I attach to bottom of tub cover/lid. Links to all equipment used or recommended in description
I've tried cutting them but for me the stumps turns to black slime mess. I rather pull them and dunk my substrate after I pick them. I don't want my shrooms to contain anymore moisture then need be
I’m sorry you had that experience. Sounds like you soaked too long or didn’t let it dry long enough. Don’t blame the tek for your errors.
what ratio of coir to spawn are you using in that monster crop?
pretty low, I think I show it in the video. No more than 4 quart jars for the 650g coir. could've done more coir for sure. Im a patient grower. Keep temps low for fruiting, and your patience will be rewarded while minimizing contamination risk. increases concentration of active ingredients in harvest too. use with caution.
@@floki-man thanks for your reply!
I like using a bread knife to cut during harvest.
Glad to hear that, I should’ve tested more knives.
I have a newish razor sharp 14” food service bread knife I purchased for cutting tough sourdough breads, hoping it can cut 1 canopy in 1 pass.
@@floki-manI promise you, try twisting “counterclockwise”… they come off so easy, no harm to shrooms or sub, in my very short experience but it was a day and night difference for me. Mush luck ❤️🍄❤️!
I have been trying to fruit my tub for 3 weeks and not even a pin I have pictures of my tub can someone please look at them I’ll send them and tell me what is going on
I don’t think anyone will be able to help from pictures alone. If the mycelium is all white and healthy, and you don’t have gnats/fruit flies around, then hopefully it’s not contaminated.
Try changing your conditions if you can. Put it somewhere cooler if can. If it’s already cool, try somewhere warmer. Easier than temperature, try adjusting humidity. You can buy relatively cheap hygrometer/humidity meters almost anywhere. 70% average should typically be what you’re looking for. May help to ensure adequate lighting too, but that’s not critical for pinning.
Hope this helps.
Add a drain to the box?
But then it wouldn’t be unmodified…you’re absolutely right. Worth a try if you like.
Will there be new growth from the stems??
Absolutely. Just need to make sure you let it get back to lower moisture/humidity, maybe skip misting a few days or more and keep fanning. May not get another full canopy, but you can keep going till you feel you’ve grown enough and yield isn’t justifying continued maintenance, or until you see green/other contamination. The creator of the TEK claimed to get 4 or more full canopy’s, but he used more substrate and packed it tighter than I did.
If you start having gaps form around substrate, between coir and tub, pack gap with coir/vermiculite/other naturally sterile substrate to reduce space for side-pins micro climate to form.
Will have much more to share about the whole process as I can, demonstrating & explaining from start to finish how I did this, and what I could do better.
Appreciate the question, thanks for checking this out!
Not from the stems/stumps but there will be new growth
Good point, and more clearly stated. True, I meant between the stems, they may even help make the microclimate for the next flush better, or require less water each misting. Thanks for the help!
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Side pins are from using no liner. The liner is supposed to shrink with the substrate preventing moisture on the side. The light thing is a debunked myth.
If you fill any gaps that form with coir, you do the same thing. If you pack the inoculated substrate tighter, less shrinkage. Liners are not necessary, for me.
Is this a reupload?
Not only that, this channel is entirely new. Built the last 4-6 months. From 0 subscribers. Dont forget to subscribe 🥴🫡
Had some issues with last one, felt I had to terminate it unfortunately. Thats why I am so excited you found it, again.
If you use a black liner bag you won't get side pins
False. Just means you can see them. I realize it’s common practice, I just don’t see it. I may do a tub with a liner just to prove to everyone you’ll still get side pins.
Side pins taste the same as top pins.
Why didn't you just let the hose drain into the sink?
Great question, primarily so I could reuse the water. It’s a lot of volume when you live in the desert. Our trees love harvest time. Another option: I could have just taken the tub outside on a table to water trees directly by siphon. Less stop/start & choking on water.
Thanks for watching, and commenting!
You said the stumps left behind from harvesting creates the perfect microclimate? I've always heard that it's bad to leave the stumps because it will cause contamination. That's about the one thing I hate about this community. There's so much contradicting information it's hard for me to really like go off of somebody's text because you're here like you say this and then turn around and hear other people say it will cost contamination and for me if I just had to get the supplies, learned the most basic concepts of cultivating mushrooms, and just took off. By the way I'm not doubting what you say I'm actually doubting everyone else because it never really made sense that a mushroom would contaminate itself. Idk great job on the b+ though that was a helluva flush. 🍄❤️
That’s why I recommended a great book that’s a reliable reference in the description by Paul Stamets. He gives you all the research and references you could want, and helps cut through the BS.
I 100% understand your frustration. I will never claim to be an expert, and I’m simply sharing my experiences. Try for yourself, contamination is easy to spot. Growing is easy and cheap, you can do it again using your old leftovers (rice, pasta, bread, etc) for grain spawn too. Keep it simple and you’ll find satisfaction quickly. Thank you for sharing. I am trying to be a kinder mycologist than those I’ve experienced online myself. Facebook groups are pointless hell. Avoid posting there anyway. More hate than help.
I’ll double check I added that book in description. I may have forgotten. Thanks again!
What’s your spawn to substrate ratio
@ItsCheechFool I used about 4 x 0.66 quart jars spawn for 1 x 650g brick coir. Could’ve probably used 2 bricks coir and same grain spawn and had similar results. Once it starts colonizing coir it can progress pretty quickly. I didn’t pack these tubs as tightly as I should have. If I had, it would’ve been pretty thin. Hence 2 brick recommendation.
Can always use more or less spawn. More = faster. But prepping more jars may not be worth the time saved colonizing.
Of course, If you’re in a real hurry, just fruit straight from spawn jars.
It’s all very flexible, and coir is very easy to work with. Hope this helps.
@@floki-man how many flushes does that get ? That is a lot of substrate holy cow!!!
@@floki-man in botany I learned that if you don’t pack it just lightly level the soil leave it lightly and the root system will suck up the extra space. So once it actually have a root ball it becomes compact. Packing it beforehand could lead to slowed growth premature growth etc. does the same apply for mycology ?
@ItsCheechFool just saw your replies: flushes, may only get 2-3 flushes before they’re kid of sporadic, but you can keep harvesting as long as you feel it’s worth maintaining the Tub. Each flush smaller than the last of course.
Mycology is quite different from plants as far as soil/substrate. Once the mycelium colonizes the substrate, it will be very possible for it to start shrinking. Packing tightly is best with coir, and you’ll get double the substrate in if you pack it, which may double yield.
The substrate cake will also be stronger if packed tighter. So easier to handle/flip when harvesting if you want to look for side/bottom fruits.
yeah.... Im going to do 3 shoeboxes instead of 1 big monotub
You’d be smart. More variety too. Main advantage of big tub is I can attach grow light to lid, they’re not too short.
Can still just place small boxes in a big box like a grow chamber when you get to fruiting. No need for multiple small lids, faster misting and fanning all together. Easier to maintain at and between harvests. Easier to dry after soaking in smaller volumes. Do it.
You ever crack your sub in half doing it like that?
Never. This couldn’t be more gentle. And even if it broke in 3 pieces, it wouldn’t matter. Just place them back together and they grow like before. They’ll reconnect. What’s the concern with breaking it? If cakes as small as PFtek make fruits, why not broken slabs?
@LT.Goodman really just out of curiosity to be honest. Making it crack on purpose once you've gotten a few flushes might not be a bad idea even. If it's already pinning on the sides, why not give it more surface area? Can't hurt if you have a few tubs going to try it on one and test it side by side.
I wanna know what the big deal is with side pins, why’s everyone so damn scared of ‘em?? lol 😆🤦🏽♂️
@adhdeity I know right?! Like they’re not the same as the sh🍄t growing on top. Thanks for the comment!
If u would have put the bucket on the floor the siphon would have worked lol
The complications of being a solo video creator… no camera man, trying to keep things in frame. Good for a laugh, I hope. Fortunately the water didn’t taste that bad, and my gut is now fully colonized with mycelium.
@LT.Goodman you should go #2 in your backyard. It'll act like a cow patty and you'll get more shroomies.
@@hoobaguy4311 I’d probably just buy/find the cow #2, easier to control hydration, probably has less odor. I also have had no issues with coir, which is cheap, produces reliably without contamination, and not only has no smell, but it sequesters CO2, so it’s like having an air scrubber in your home. If you’re trying to increase concentration of active compounds in mushrooms, grow as cool temperatures as you can. Cold colonization and grows makes any substrate produce better fruits, in my experience and from what I read.
Appreciate the opportunity to discuss this, hope you clean yer backyard.
lots of water is unnecessary but gringos always waste water
Not this gringo. Reuse all of it every time. Thanks for being an idiot regardless and independently from whatever race you identify as.
Does anyone know an Australian company to purchase psilocybin spore. I keep getting ripped off and they can’t be posted from America as the FDA will demand $300 for a stamp the Fcuk ers.
Have you looked into purchasing spore prints? They’re paper thin dry spores. Seems like they’d be easily disguised as a letter. If no one else is doing it, I might have to.
You can buy an auto syphon from a brewing supply company, no more ghetto sucking on a tube getting nasty water in your mouth 😂
I don’t like buying stuff though.
@@floki-man that's fair but there are many solutions to the issue. Using a large syringe to start the vacuum for example. Just trying to be helpful. Take care.
@@necrophagus9sure, it doesn’t bother me though. Free is good. Thanks for sharing.