Thank GOD this isn’t another waste of time filler 12 minute video for the algorithm. Straight to the point . And more informative than anything else out there
Dude, you say more in four minutes than most of these guys can say in an hour. I really appreciate your attitude, your work ethic and your ability to explain things in an experienced way. It's obvious that you know your trade and you know how to explain it in a complete and concise way without going all the way back to Cain and Able in the Bible. Thank you for doing such a great job and doing such a great job on your videos.
Good video, i’m still not familiar with wet venting, but this one I got, and this would apply to horizontal assembly Do you have any videos of upper floors plumbing, with 4” stacks and two bathrooms back to back?? Thank you
He is in North Carolina and his pitch is not wrong. 3 in min 1/8 fall per foot. 2 in pipe or smaller 1/4 per foot. 4 in laterals you cal get away with 1/16 in per foot. Now that is said I still try to get the 1/4 per foot on all but the pitch’s I and he listed will pass code and inspection.
Finally, I've been looking for this video for days, I had to watch half hour videos that in the end did not help me, thanks for sharing and for making it short but well explained and easy, bravo.
I can't thank you enough for putting these videos together. I'm building my own home and doing most of the work myself, including the plumbing, and the information you're sharing is priceless. Thank you!
Jeff, would love to see a video on how the DWV is tested / inspected. Understand the concept, but would love to see the process step by step. Thanks again for the great content!!
Great info. You might want to mention that while the slope and trap arm length may be legal in NC, it does not comply with Uniform Plumbing Code. Many states use the UPC and most use the International Plumbing Code. Please check with the plumbing inspector (Authority Having Jurisdiction) or you may be having to tear out your plumbing to make it pass code. All in all though, Great Job!
Here in California, the minimum vent size is 2” for a w/c. I would rough a 2”x2”x 1 1/2” Santee for the lav and go straight up 2” on the dry vent by code in Cali. Thanks for the video, just subbed.
In California there are some differences, 2" diameter minimum for a vent that serves a closet regardless of drain size. (That sanitary tee would have to be 2" all around) 6 ft. maximum to the vent after closet. 1/8th in./ft. grade is only allowed for 4" and bigger Awesome video, just wanted to point out some differences
I find it interesting all the different plumbing codes across this great Country. What's acceptable one place may be totally unacceptable elsewhere. For instance. Lets say that bathroom group was basically the only DWV in a small 1 bedroom cabin or such. Here where I live there has to be one full sized VTR. Don't forget: "It's not a mess up until the concrete is poured". Lol.
Use the fall as precisely as possible, for example, 1/8" per foot for a 3" diameter pipe. If you pitch it too much, you can have all of the water run down the pipe and leave solids behind to harden into obstructions. The only exception is 45 degrees or more is treated as a vertical pipe.
I stopped doing plumbing work in '86 . California. Watching your video surprised me with whats allowable now. Back then only vertical wet vent was allowable, and a WC needed a 2" vent. 2" trap length was 5' , 3" trap length was 6' . Horizontal vents from a wye branch needed to roll up above the center line of the drain too. Lol, my last code book I owned was the 1976 version.
Everyone seems to forget that wet venting is an exception meaning it's allowed but not preferable. The vent in the video is a flat wet vent meaning the vent center line is at same elevation to the drain it's connected to if you're going to use a wet vent the invert of the vent should be above ithe center to the drain line it's connected to
Great video. I know nothing about plumbing but attempting to DIY my moms tiny home. This is her exact bathroom set up. It’d be great to see how that ties in with the kitchen sink and dishwasher.
That was so awesome. Right to the point. I have a question. Do you have any experience with saniflow toilets or shores? We have an unfinished basement with access to main drain in crawl space and trying to find best solution.
Thanks for you videos...been trying to find out while watching videos and reading books...New construction with a basement full bath and laundry (roughed in, floor poured after passing inspection.) There is a pump in the basement floor to pump drains from the basement up and out to septic tank and I was going to tie main and 2nd flr drains into 4" where pump line goes through the outside wall. I have a full bath on the main floor right above, and a bath right above on the 2nd floor with 2 vanities, , oversize tub and sep shower. The kitchen is on main floor sharing wet wall with bath. My question is vents... Can I just use a 3"stacked vent all the way up for everything? Seems like a lot of fixtures...1 washer, 3 toilets, 4 lavs, 3 showers, 1 kit sink, 1 big tub. I just can't find anything to calculate vents per fixture even if everything is stacked on top of each other.
I have a question and maybe you could lay it out. We had a 5 foot roman tub, we had it removed and put in a large 3 head shower. We paid extra to have the concrete slab broken out and moved the drain the middle of the shower. We never had a drain issue with the bath tub, but when we put in the high dollar shower we have nothing but problems with drainage. Any ideas or suggestions, we simply do not use it anymore.
An Oregon the toilet vent must be at least 2 inch. And there must be a clean out at the end of every run. You can only use a closet bend or long sweep 90 for the toilet. All clean out must be at minimum floor level or accessible to the outside.
Yes, and you confirmed what I decided myself. So many say 1/8” drop is mandatory, and I’ve heard a bunch of stupid incorrect reasons. 1/8” is minimum, not mandatory. It’s so you can run through a 4” slab and not got too deep or to high at the ends. Never heard it’s different for 3” and 2” pipe. Good summary. And I also figured out about 2/3 of the details explained in this video just from thinking about things. Most plumbers get into it because it’s the highest paying trade they can handle. They usually flunked math and science. But there are some who are really smart too, like this presenter. And again, I’m sick of half the 40 minute video being theatrics to glamorize the presenter. This is what I come to these videos for. Information, not pizzazz.
With the shortages of people working in our trades, we drastically need trade schools to teach our youth,with that you would make a great instructor,I got everything you said and didn’t have to think twice about it 😂
Great video. However, the main reason I clicked on this video though is because I thought it was a video of John Stockton doing a plumbing video. You could probably be the NBA all-time leader in assists and steals in an alternate universe.
That’s a California fail. All the way around. 😂😂😂. Wish we could go that far on trap arms and down size a bathroom group horizontal wet vent. You didn’t count the tub trap only the toilet. 2” vent minimum on that according to UPC code book as well.
I have a question. I have a 2nd floor. Where the water lines were run and capped off. Between them is a 3 or 4 inch pvc pipe that goes through the roof. The room next to this was framed for a toilet. How can I know if I can use this 3 inch pipe as a drain for a toilet and shower and sink? Thank you
If I want to add in a laundry to this fixture group, what are the options? Can it be part of the 2 " arm or maybe it can be, but that arm would need to be 3"?
Hello - I hope this question makes sense. Would be easier with pictures. Currently my system of Vanity /sink1.5 inch vent, toilet 3inch vent and Shower 1.5 inch vent, all had their own vent going into attic and joining on the toilet 3 inch. With a remodel I am doing the bath will connect to the old vanity/sink line and have a 1.5 inch vent wihin 4 feet. toilet isnt moving. The main concern is the vanity/sink. it is moving 5 feet away from the old shower spot. Do I need another vent for this? Based on the video and already having 3 vents in the line... im guessing not, just checking. Thanks for the awesome videos.
what is the rule for the bathroom sink pipe i heard you have to have some horizontal run running to the wall before it drops so you are not making a s trap?
I pretty much agree with everything you said, but we don't use sanitary tees like that for the lavatory. . Doesn't drain well with a sanitary tee straight into the drain line. We use short 90 then branch to the sanitary tee.
Code does not allow wet vents on a coded bathroom. Every fixture gets a vent. Check your code book. If it’s small maybe in some areas it’s good. But that won’t pass code in my area.
That would not pass inspection in CA. Your example has two wet trap arms for the toilet. Also the trap arm and toilet vent combo will plug up over time. Here a horizontal drain line with a fitting for a vent must have the fitting pitched up min. 45 degrees.
I DON'T KNOW BUT WHERE I LIVE THAT IT'S A NO, NO YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR VENT FOR THE SHOWER LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 2" VENT FOR THE 3" PIPE ALSO AND USE IT AS A WET VENT IF YOU WANT .....
Hi there can you hook up 2 toilet and 2 showers and 2 sinks in 1 - 3 inches abs pipe With 2 vent it is all under ground in concrete it’s 1 story house no basement
OMG! Please help! I am having such a problem understanding this. Are sinks the ONLY way to wet vent or can a shower, tub or toilet also be a wet vent? Picture this. I have a 60' main drain that will be under a slab and runs east to west through the house with the septic on the east end. I have a bathroom slightly NW of the main branch and septic. The bathroom consists of a shower to the NW, a tub to the North, a toilet to the NE a sink to the SW and a sink to the SE. The sinks are split by a doorway and are only 2' from the main drain. The toilet is about 13' from the main drain. Should I run 2-3" branches from under boths sinks North to South and connect the shower, tub to one and the toilet to one with the sinks being the wet vent? That would put the shower tub and toilet on the high side of the drain so will the wet vent work or does the wet vent need to be the highest point of the branch?
So on a wet vent I still got to run a vent pipe up threw the roof im adding another bathroom and just gunna tie into my main drain pipe wich is already vented from the toilet before it do I have to vent my second toilet or will the one vent from the toilet I have work with both
You would have to bring the 2-in vent up to the second floor and you would also need to bring a 3-in stack up top of the top plate on the first floor so that way you can run your drainage for the second floor. If you're able to wet vent the second floor, then you'll have the first floor vent coming up and the second floor vent coming up. You'll tie those in together or send them separately out the roof
I don’t like this in nyc they used to vent every fixture individually. I see lay outs like this and they use a air admittance valve when they fail in this you have backups and sewer gas leaks
Totally Right, they would make you tear all of your work out. Just make sure that you go by your OWN local codes. Some of the nicer inspectors would probably help with a simple layout if you asked them.
Perfect, short, clear, 4 min, no fluff, doable. Subscribed, and thumbs-up. Thanks.
Thank GOD this isn’t another waste of time filler 12 minute video for the algorithm. Straight to the point . And more informative than anything else out there
I just subscribed because of your no time wasting B.S. and straight to the point explanation. Thank you
probably the best explanation of plumbing/ code I have seen on youtube. Everything all in one place! Really Good! Thanks!
Thanks so much.
Dude, you say more in four minutes than most of these guys can say in an hour. I really appreciate your attitude, your work ethic and your ability to explain things in an experienced way. It's obvious that you know your trade and you know how to explain it in a complete and concise way without going all the way back to Cain and Able in the Bible. Thank you for doing such a great job and doing such a great job on your videos.
Thank you
Great video! Please do a laundry room as i am trying to tie in a washing machine exhaust to an existing laundry tub
Good video, i’m still not familiar with wet venting, but this one I got, and this would apply to horizontal assembly
Do you have any videos of upper floors plumbing, with 4” stacks and two bathrooms back to back??
Thank you
4 minutes and 20 seconds. Most efficient and informative video on the subject I've ever seen. Thank you.
IDK WHAT STATE YOU ARE IN BUT YOUR PITCH IS WRONG. PLUS YOUR 3 BY R Y IS NOT ROLLED ABOVE THE CENTER LINE
He is in North Carolina and his pitch is not wrong. 3 in min 1/8 fall per foot. 2 in pipe or smaller 1/4 per foot. 4 in laterals you cal get away with 1/16 in per foot. Now that is said I still try to get the 1/4 per foot on all but the pitch’s I and he listed will pass code and inspection.
short and to the point...this great makes a great teacher.
Straight to the point, easy to follow, valuable information 👍 Thanks
You broke this down really well. I don’t have much experience in roughins here in TX
As others have mentioned an extremely efficient video. Cannot thank you enough.
Finally, I've been looking for this video for days, I had to watch half hour videos that in the end did not help me, thanks for sharing and for making it short but well explained and easy, bravo.
I can't thank you enough for putting these videos together. I'm building my own home and doing most of the work myself, including the plumbing, and the information you're sharing is priceless. Thank you!
Great job, really appreciate how you explain it. In such a short period of time
No plumber but remember the toilet as 1,2,3. 1 toilet 2in vent 3in drain. Also same answer for water head. 1 psi = 2.3 feet of head. Good video.
Great video! I just subscribed to you. Looking forward to learning from your videos
Excellent video. Quick and to the point. Thanks.
Jeff, would love to see a video on how the DWV is tested / inspected. Understand the concept, but would love to see the process step by step. Thanks again for the great content!!
Awesome mate
Simple easy to understand
Yes different in oz but same rule of thumb applies
Cheers from down under
The greatest plumbing video out there
Nice job and easy to follow.
Great info. You might want to mention that while the slope and trap arm length may be legal in NC, it does not comply with Uniform Plumbing Code. Many states use the UPC and most use the International Plumbing Code. Please check with the plumbing inspector (Authority Having Jurisdiction) or you may be having to tear out your plumbing to make it pass code.
All in all though, Great Job!
Good video, i like the way you visually and verbally explain things. Good video for a refresher
Excellent explanation!
Great video Jeff!!
Thanks!
Great explanation 👍
Here in California, the minimum vent size is 2” for a w/c. I would rough a 2”x2”x 1 1/2” Santee for the lav and go straight up 2” on the dry vent by code in Cali. Thanks for the video, just subbed.
Love it. Great job.
In California there are some differences,
2" diameter minimum for a vent that serves a closet regardless of drain size. (That sanitary tee would have to be 2" all around)
6 ft. maximum to the vent after closet.
1/8th in./ft. grade is only allowed for 4" and bigger
Awesome video, just wanted to point out some differences
Great video, especially regarding the cleanout requirements. After reading the NC code I was a bit confused, but now I'm good to go, thanks!
You bet.
I find it interesting all the different plumbing codes across this great Country. What's acceptable one place may be totally unacceptable elsewhere. For instance. Lets say that bathroom group was basically the only DWV in a small 1 bedroom cabin or such. Here where I live there has to be one full sized VTR. Don't forget: "It's not a mess up until the concrete is poured". Lol.
Thanks for this! 👍
Thank you!!!
thank you. I like the blooper and the kid laughing at the end. nice touch. subscribed.
Well said!
Thank you so much
good video, thanks for making
Nice horizontal wet vent 👍
Use the fall as precisely as possible, for example, 1/8" per foot for a 3" diameter pipe. If you pitch it too much, you can have all of the water run down the pipe and leave solids behind to harden into obstructions. The only exception is 45 degrees or more is treated as a vertical pipe.
My old memory was that only until 4" were you allowed to run 1/8 per ft. Slope.
thanks for the video
I stopped doing plumbing work in '86 . California. Watching your video surprised me with whats allowable now. Back then only vertical wet vent was allowable, and a WC needed a 2" vent.
2" trap length was 5' , 3" trap length was 6' . Horizontal vents from a wye branch needed to roll up above the center line of the drain too. Lol, my last code book I owned was the 1976 version.
Code hasn’t changed that much, we still plumb that way here in northern california
Thanks!
Good video thanks
Everyone seems to forget that wet venting is an exception meaning it's allowed but not preferable. The vent in the video is a flat wet vent meaning the vent center line is at same elevation to the drain it's connected to if you're going to use a wet vent the invert of the vent should be above ithe center to the drain line it's connected to
Well done
good info!
All the specs in the shortest amount of time. What a chad.
Great video. I know nothing about plumbing but attempting to DIY my moms tiny home. This is her exact bathroom set up. It’d be great to see how that ties in with the kitchen sink and dishwasher.
I'll keep that in mind for the next video. Thanks
@@risingtideplumbing How much would you charge to provide a plumbing diagram with parts and pieces if I provided a floor plan?
You're my new favorite plumber. Thanks for the great and concise education!
Nice channel. Quick question, what is the best material to use when RE plumbing the bathroom drains. Cast iron, PVC, or ABS?
Hey just subscribed
Excellent content tutorial in 4 minutes
Thanks so much.
Nice, Short and sweet. No B.S.
Great video if the sink is not there, can you still use the same configuration? Meaning just the toilet and the shower?
Great video! Can the sink and shower be on different 3x2 wye’s?
Excellent, and only 4 minutes instead of stretching it to 10...
That was so awesome. Right to the point. I have a question. Do you have any experience with saniflow toilets or shores? We have an unfinished basement with access to main drain in crawl space and trying to find best solution.
Impressive!!
Under. Fucking. Rated. This guy needs waaaay more subscribers!
This is easier to understand than the teachers at plumbing school. I'm just in Chicago lil different
Thanks for you videos...been trying to find out while watching videos and reading books...New construction with a basement full bath and laundry (roughed in, floor poured after passing inspection.) There is a pump in the basement floor to pump drains from the basement up and out to septic tank and I was going to tie main and 2nd flr drains into 4" where pump line goes through the outside wall. I have a full bath on the main floor right above, and a bath right above on the 2nd floor with 2 vanities, , oversize tub and sep shower. The kitchen is on main floor sharing wet wall with bath. My question is vents... Can I just use a 3"stacked vent all the way up for everything? Seems like a lot of fixtures...1 washer, 3 toilets, 4 lavs, 3 showers, 1 kit sink, 1 big tub. I just can't find anything to calculate vents per fixture even if everything is stacked on top of each other.
I have a question and maybe you could lay it out. We had a 5 foot roman tub, we had it removed and put in a large 3 head shower. We paid extra to have the concrete slab broken out and moved the drain the middle of the shower. We never had a drain issue with the bath tub, but when we put in the high dollar shower we have nothing but problems with drainage. Any ideas or suggestions, we simply do not use it anymore.
An Oregon the toilet vent must be at least 2 inch. And there must be a clean out at the end of every run. You can only use a closet bend or long sweep 90 for the toilet. All clean out must be at minimum floor level or accessible to the outside.
Thank you
You bet.
Awesome.
Yes, and you confirmed what I decided myself. So many say 1/8” drop is mandatory, and I’ve heard a bunch of stupid incorrect reasons. 1/8” is minimum, not mandatory. It’s so you can run through a 4” slab and not got too deep or to high at the ends. Never heard it’s different for 3” and 2” pipe. Good summary. And I also figured out about 2/3 of the details explained in this video just from thinking about things. Most plumbers get into it because it’s the highest paying trade they can handle. They usually flunked math and science. But there are some who are really smart too, like this presenter. And again, I’m sick of half the 40 minute video being theatrics to glamorize the presenter. This is what I come to these videos for. Information, not pizzazz.
With the shortages of people working in our trades, we drastically need trade schools to teach our youth,with that you would make a great instructor,I got everything you said and didn’t have to think twice about it 😂
One of the best videos i've seen. This guy knows code.
Ipc.maybe
Is the long sweep need on the sink drain line?
Great video. However, the main reason I clicked on this video though is because I thought it was a video of John Stockton doing a plumbing video. You could probably be the NBA all-time leader in assists and steals in an alternate universe.
Will this way work also if im doing a double vanity(w/cross T and 2" going up for vent) ??? tia
Is the only one 90 or two 45s a rule just for wet venting or is it a general plumbing rule for trap arms?
That’s a California fail. All the way around. 😂😂😂. Wish we could go that far on trap arms and down size a bathroom group horizontal wet vent. You didn’t count the tub trap only the toilet. 2” vent minimum on that according to UPC code book as well.
I have a question. I have a 2nd floor. Where the water lines were run and capped off. Between them is a 3 or 4 inch pvc pipe that goes through the roof. The room next to this was framed for a toilet. How can I know if I can use this 3 inch pipe as a drain for a toilet and shower and sink? Thank you
If I want to add in a laundry to this fixture group, what are the options? Can it be part of the 2 " arm or maybe it can be, but that arm would need to be 3"?
Hello - I hope this question makes sense. Would be easier with pictures. Currently my system of Vanity /sink1.5 inch vent, toilet 3inch vent and Shower 1.5 inch vent, all had their own vent going into attic and joining on the toilet 3 inch. With a remodel I am doing the bath will connect to the old vanity/sink line and have a 1.5 inch vent wihin 4 feet. toilet isnt moving. The main concern is the vanity/sink. it is moving 5 feet away from the old shower spot. Do I need another vent for this? Based on the video and already having 3 vents in the line... im guessing not, just checking. Thanks for the awesome videos.
What if the toilet was wall mounted? I am having trouble figuring out code for that and how to set it up for the foundation pour
I've heard that the toilet needs to be downstream from the other fixtures when wet venting. Is that what you have here?
what is the rule for the bathroom sink pipe i heard you have to have some horizontal run running to the wall before it drops so you are not making a s trap?
Damn good video. Make more
A little different here in Calif where UPC code applies
I pretty much agree with everything you said, but we don't use sanitary tees like that for the lavatory. . Doesn't drain well with a sanitary tee straight into the drain line. We use short 90 then branch to the sanitary tee.
Code does not allow wet vents on a coded bathroom. Every fixture gets a vent. Check your code book. If it’s small maybe in some areas it’s good. But that won’t pass code in my area.
Using the wet vent shouldn't that be 2 in up from lav ?
Gerber WC makes a 10” rough in from the wall in case your tight on space
Very true. Thanks
Yeah, plus most plumbing supply houses can get almost any brand for 10", 12", and 14" rough-ins. Good video!
How far can the main drain be from the toilet?
That would not pass inspection in CA. Your example has two wet trap arms for the toilet. Also the trap arm and toilet vent combo will plug up over time. Here a horizontal drain line with a fitting for a vent must have the fitting pitched up min. 45 degrees.
I DON'T KNOW BUT WHERE I LIVE
THAT IT'S A NO, NO
YOU HAVE TO HAVE YOUR VENT FOR THE SHOWER LIKE THE ONE YOU HAVE
BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A 2" VENT FOR THE 3" PIPE ALSO
AND USE IT AS A WET VENT IF YOU WANT .....
I want to put a washing machine on the other side of the wall of my bathroom. Can I tap into the sink for the drainage of the washer?
Hi there can you hook up 2 toilet and 2 showers and 2 sinks in 1 - 3 inches abs pipe With 2 vent it is all under ground in concrete it’s 1 story house no basement
Great information! Dude you need shelves in your garage or some hooks atleast
Code exists mostly to keep the pros necessary. They must have great lobbyists.
This is NOT ok unless the vent was ran in 3" and still its not assembled correctly
OMG! Please help! I am having such a problem understanding this. Are sinks the ONLY way to wet vent or can a shower, tub or toilet also be a wet vent? Picture this. I have a 60' main drain that will be under a slab and runs east to west through the house with the septic on the east end. I have a bathroom slightly NW of the main branch and septic. The bathroom consists of a shower to the NW, a tub to the North, a toilet to the NE a sink to the SW and a sink to the SE. The sinks are split by a doorway and are only 2' from the main drain. The toilet is about 13' from the main drain. Should I run 2-3" branches from under boths sinks North to South and connect the shower, tub to one and the toilet to one with the sinks being the wet vent? That would put the shower tub and toilet on the high side of the drain so will the wet vent work or does the wet vent need to be the highest point of the branch?
How about the toilet and shower vent,
So on a wet vent I still got to run a vent pipe up threw the roof im adding another bathroom and just gunna tie into my main drain pipe wich is already vented from the toilet before it do I have to vent my second toilet or will the one vent from the toilet I have work with both
You would have to bring the 2-in vent up to the second floor and you would also need to bring a 3-in stack up top of the top plate on the first floor so that way you can run your drainage for the second floor. If you're able to wet vent the second floor, then you'll have the first floor vent coming up and the second floor vent coming up. You'll tie those in together or send them separately out the roof
Also, if you do tying both vents together, it has to be above the flood ram of all fixture units on the second floor
Flood rim*
I don’t like this in nyc they used to vent every fixture individually. I see lay outs like this and they use a air admittance valve when they fail in this you have backups and sewer gas leaks
In my home town that isn't code illegal bcz wet vents are not allowed
How does one exactly add slope to the drain lines?
Best way to do it is to buy a level that shows the increments of 1/8, 1/4, 3/8 etc. can be purchased at Lowe’s or Home Depot
Illinois inspectors would have problems with this ☹️
Totally Right, they would make you tear all of your work out. Just make sure that you go by your OWN local codes. Some of the nicer inspectors would probably help with a simple layout if you asked them.
@@fluffynutz730 The nicer inspectors would tell you to "hurry and cover it up" before someone sees it.
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Great video. Why is it called a lavatory? I always wondered
I believe it comes from the Latin word for wash which is lava.