The Basics of Venting in Plumbing in 4 Minutes

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  • Опубликовано: 24 дек 2022
  • In today's episode we tackle the basics of venting in plumbing and how it keeps your house safe. Perfect for the DIYer.

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  • @markflanagan6653
    @markflanagan6653 Год назад +75

    As a plumber with 31 years experience I think you did a great job explaining for homeowners

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад +7

      Thanks Mark. Means a lot.

    • @dmills13F
      @dmills13F Год назад +1

      Yeah naw, he got it wrong in the first 20 seconds.

    • @cooper8318
      @cooper8318 11 месяцев назад +2

      @@dmills13F explain

    • @devinnorsworthy9154
      @devinnorsworthy9154 7 месяцев назад +1

      But not for plumbers???

    • @devinnorsworthy9154
      @devinnorsworthy9154 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@cooper8318his english was wrong within the first 20 seconds 😅

  • @daniellynch1980
    @daniellynch1980 Год назад +29

    True mastery of a trade comes with the ability to teach.
    Great stuff Jeff!

  • @michaelmoore2487
    @michaelmoore2487 4 месяца назад +14

    An excellent video! Tight, concise, well explained, and you respected the viewer's time by not spending 10 minutes to explain what you could explain in 4 minutes. Bravo!

  • @RayRosencrants-rr9zf
    @RayRosencrants-rr9zf 8 месяцев назад +2

    Great information on venting. As a Builder I get a lot of calls regarding problems that customers need solved. This was a great explanation.

  • @dan-vh7zf
    @dan-vh7zf 11 дней назад

    Thank you. Very helpful!

  • @glamptribe
    @glamptribe 5 месяцев назад

    Great video! Thanks!

  • @IppiopaidFEEDBACK
    @IppiopaidFEEDBACK Год назад +5

    Thanks a lot for explaining the difference between wet and dry vents.

  • @stuartkorte1642
    @stuartkorte1642 Год назад +3

    The mock up makes all the difference. Thanks.

  • @fatcapital88
    @fatcapital88 11 дней назад

    Very helpful!

  • @TheEverydayAdam
    @TheEverydayAdam 3 месяца назад

    This is great. Very well done.

  • @kimberlyburns1425
    @kimberlyburns1425 8 месяцев назад +6

    I have been trying to understand this for a few months. Your explanation of the two types was so simple and to the point. Thank you so much.

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  8 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks so much. Glad it helped. Let me know if there are any other topics that would be helpful to cover.

  • @user-be2rl9vh9l
    @user-be2rl9vh9l 10 дней назад

    Wow,excellent explanation. Thanks!

  • @R900DZ
    @R900DZ 29 дней назад

    Awesome info, thanks!!

  • @crikescrikes2465
    @crikescrikes2465 Месяц назад +3

    Best explanation of plumbing venting I’ve heard!

  • @heredia1993jorge
    @heredia1993jorge Год назад

    You explained it perfectly. Thank you.

  • @andrewsackville-west1609
    @andrewsackville-west1609 6 месяцев назад

    This is perfect. Thanks.

  • @airkilroy23
    @airkilroy23 Год назад

    You’re a great teacher!

  • @gooutsideeveryday2017
    @gooutsideeveryday2017 Год назад +3

    This helped a lot, thank you.

  • @bluegorillacookies
    @bluegorillacookies 20 дней назад +1

    Saved the day, thank you Sir!

  • @HaiyanQu-no1ne
    @HaiyanQu-no1ne Месяц назад +4

    Hands down the best plubming education video!! Thank you so much!!

    • @mattywho8485
      @mattywho8485 Месяц назад +1

      Hands down he worst spelling of plumbing !

  • @sohailhussaini1694
    @sohailhussaini1694 8 месяцев назад +1

    The best to the point and exact information. Thanks.

  • @clydeusa6596
    @clydeusa6596 11 месяцев назад

    Very good explanation!!!

  • @cesarestrada1283
    @cesarestrada1283 6 месяцев назад

    Nice!
    Very informative!
    Thanks 👍🏼

  • @bigonprivacy2708
    @bigonprivacy2708 Год назад +21

    So far this has been the BEST video on plumbing I have ever seen AND needed! Thank you. Can you please do one on setting up the plumbing before the foundation is laid? I bet you would crush the explanations as you have done here! Thanks again!!!

    • @nickkiosk5513
      @nickkiosk5513 Год назад

      Roger Wakefield has a great video on ground roughs id recommend watching it

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад +4

      Thanks so much. Next slab I do I’ll make a video with some explanation.

    • @nickkiosk5513
      @nickkiosk5513 Год назад +2

      @@risingtideplumbing cant wait for that one, could you make sure to explain in the video how you determine where you put your stacks and what sizes to use?

  • @fbforlife90
    @fbforlife90 Месяц назад

    Such a great clear and concise video - keep it up!

  • @lesterwatson8519
    @lesterwatson8519 6 месяцев назад

    Well explained! Good Video

  • @drewd7824
    @drewd7824 28 дней назад +1

    Best videos! 4 minutes! And learn so much and tying in the whole system, not just one bit of info and we have no idea of why or understanding all the system parts. 🙌

  • @IndependentArmz
    @IndependentArmz Год назад

    Thanks for the clarity in this video.

  • @toddleggat8801
    @toddleggat8801 7 месяцев назад

    thank you great video

  • @RoyDollwet
    @RoyDollwet 6 месяцев назад

    That was a big help.......................thanks

  • @mondavou9408
    @mondavou9408 7 месяцев назад

    Good video. I really found your mock ups helpful. Keep 'em coming.

  • @eltonnoway7864
    @eltonnoway7864 11 месяцев назад +16

    Awesome timing... doing a remodel and I've been struggling with wet versus dry venting. So glad I found your video. Your final plumbing mockup of a master bath starting at 03:15 showing shower, tub, toilet, and two lavs is exactly what I'm doing. As the old saying goes "a picture is worth a thousand words". As already stated by another RUclipsr "True mastery of a trade comes with the ability to teach" You are a master!

  • @digitalQ33
    @digitalQ33 7 месяцев назад +6

    As an "advanced" DIY'r, I have learned that plumbing venting & DWV (Drain, Waste Vent) is one of the most important things to understand, or know when to get help. Thank you for this video.

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  7 месяцев назад +1

      You’re welcome. Let me know if you have any other topics to cover that would be helpful.

  • @shaundonovan2193
    @shaundonovan2193 4 месяца назад +1

    Very clear presentation. Thank you for creating and sharing

  • @vatjr9887
    @vatjr9887 Год назад +7

    I’m a master plumber been doing it for 25 years and you did a great job explaining this. Good video to save and share with new plumbers.

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад +1

      Thanks so much. Means a lot. More videos to come.

    • @K31swiss
      @K31swiss 9 месяцев назад +1

      I’m a master electrician and I thought he explained it well. I’ve never been much interested in plumbing but I’m remodeling the guest bathroom and laundry and after calling several plumbers it’s become abundantly clear that the only one gonna show up to do it is me.

  • @Firedog-ny3cq
    @Firedog-ny3cq Год назад +1

    Wow!! Best four minutes I ever spent on RUclips. Not a wasted word or endless redundancies. Subbed, belled and liked.

  • @user-uw3ez7ul7z
    @user-uw3ez7ul7z 2 месяца назад

    Great video!

  • @desbasfj
    @desbasfj Год назад

    Excelente Explicación! Gracias Jefe por compartir tus conocimientos!

  • @steamer1488
    @steamer1488 11 месяцев назад +1

    Excellent explanation. You broke it down to DIYers very well. Thank you so much.

  • @asalisaterfield6007
    @asalisaterfield6007 Год назад

    Good looking out Rising Tide Plumbing!

  • @blakebennett7560
    @blakebennett7560 Год назад

    Great video, good clear info. Thank you for sharing.

  • @breakfasttacos8087
    @breakfasttacos8087 Год назад +1

    Thanks dude. Second year service apprentice here and I needed this!

  • @bookzdotmedia
    @bookzdotmedia 9 месяцев назад

    Best video on it yet!

  • @plumb4uplusmore490
    @plumb4uplusmore490 Год назад

    Great job explaining…I just sent this to all our guys!!

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад

      Thanks so much. Let me know if you have any other video ideas that would help. I’m editing the first of a series of videos from the slab through the final of a 5 1/2 bath custom home.

  • @BathroomRemodelingTeacher
    @BathroomRemodelingTeacher Год назад +2

    I hope you continue with the channel 👍 great tutorial.

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад

      Thanks so much. Let me know if you have an idea for a video that would be helpful.

  • @rayjackson4547
    @rayjackson4547 7 месяцев назад +3

    I'm a builder and home inspector. You did a great job with your mock-up. Great explanation.

  • @AlLaRiviere
    @AlLaRiviere Год назад

    Thanks for this informative and simple explanation, I definitely learned something here.

  • @zoellar11
    @zoellar11 Год назад

    Some great information on plumbing of which I' know little. Your video educated me. Thanks....I appreciate it.

  • @ramonloera5334
    @ramonloera5334 5 месяцев назад

    Thanks!!!!!!!

  • @arashvermahmood7961
    @arashvermahmood7961 7 месяцев назад

    now it makes sense. thank you.🙂

  • @davesodano8464
    @davesodano8464 Месяц назад

    Nice job on the video!

  • @kevinlundin4013
    @kevinlundin4013 Год назад +1

    Great video...I'm a plumber for over 28 years...Great explanation of how dwv application works.

  • @marcosolivares3204
    @marcosolivares3204 3 месяца назад

    Thanks

  • @anthonyhitchings1051
    @anthonyhitchings1051 5 месяцев назад

    Xlnt info, well done

  • @amjadmirza4765
    @amjadmirza4765 Год назад

    Great Job, Very educated

  • @sammassengale7028
    @sammassengale7028 Год назад +6

    Hey man, came across your videos and was hopin there would be lots more! This video was demonstrated/laid out well and easy to visualize and understand. Super helpful to see content like this as a young plumber.
    Questions
    1. What are things young plumbers can do to help protect and preserve their body’s over the course of their plumbing career.
    2. Water softener installation tutorials
    3. Plumbing in multiple storey buildings
    4. Different uses for different piping materials
    5. Useful tools you’ve found in the trade
    6. Bathroom rough in’s
    Thanks again man, hope to see lots more content in the near future! Cheers

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад +3

      Thanks for the reply. I’ll planning on making a video soon addressing a lot of your questions.

  • @S0nny1984
    @S0nny1984 24 дня назад

    Love this video! Great explanation and exactly what I needed to know. Only recommendation is to film horizontally to permit better viewing!

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  24 дня назад

      Thanks. All my other videos are horizontal if you want to check them out. Good advice.

  • @JesusMartinez-hd3ju
    @JesusMartinez-hd3ju Год назад

    Thank you

  • @2uneak
    @2uneak 11 месяцев назад +1

    Wasted my time on 7 other videos before yours was suggested. And still I didn't understand how to vent my house I'm remodeling. Boy...I could've saved an hour of my time. Simple, to the point and most straightforward! Thank you a ton, appreciate you taking the time!

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks so much. Means a lot. New video coming in a few days.

  • @TOMTOM-nh3nl
    @TOMTOM-nh3nl 7 месяцев назад

    Thank You

  • @Hey-Ro
    @Hey-Ro Год назад

    This was helpful thank you

  • @larrytheplumber9851
    @larrytheplumber9851 Год назад

    Thanks jeffie

  • @trumanray6626
    @trumanray6626 Год назад

    Great job

  • @pradeeppallan2232
    @pradeeppallan2232 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for a good video.
    What equipment do you use to trace a cast iron pipe sewer under concrete; what do you use for tracing copper pipes (water lines) under a concrete slab. Thanks

  • @vicO1323
    @vicO1323 Год назад +1

    My friend of years ago built a structure off county property with a couple bathrooms. Of course he did everything himself and knew it all, you know that guy. All the drains in the bathrooms gurgled even the toilet. It was a wonder he didn't have a full backup. 😁

  • @robertocortinas5461
    @robertocortinas5461 10 месяцев назад

    Thank you for the great video. It helped me a lot. I am doing my kitchen and find information like this about plumbing is great. If you, please can help me to understand how can I plumb my dishwasher?. The problem i have is the dishwasher is not next to the sink, because the layout and the tie space, I have the dishwasher 90 degree from the sink after the corner lazy Susan and another cabinet. Can I plumb it like stand along and vent it straight up to meet the sink vent over the ceiling?

  • @billadair1868
    @billadair1868 Год назад

    I remodeled my hall bath which originally shares a wall with the master bath. Both lavatories shared the same wall and drain to the vent. I have moved the hall bath to the wall perpendicular to the shared wall. A total pipe run of about 4 feet. I installed a "sweep tee?" on the existing master lavatory and added the pipe to the new lavatory on the other wall. Does the new lavatory need to be vented at the lavatory? I obviously will have a P trap. I can install a small vent valve in line with the P trap but is that really needed? Great explanation on the differences of vents.

  • @volt8399
    @volt8399 20 дней назад

    Thank you for making this, it was very easy to understand,
    -Just curious is there a maximum distance the vent line needs to be?- Never mind you answered it in another video. Thank you !

  • @lorirose7126
    @lorirose7126 5 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks! Great video. I am an interior architectural designer helping design my parents' bathroom IN A HIGH RISE CONDOMINIUM/apartment building in Florida. We are on the 3rd floor. There are 4-5 units per floor and 12 floors total. I have worked mostly in the UK and Asia and some US regulations are different based on UPC or IPC. I am NOT an expert in venting or vent stacks but I know we need them. I have read the vent stack cannot be less than 6 feet for the closet flange of the WC/toilet. We had a plumber in for a look and quotation and he suggested our toilet had a vent stack right behind it making a wall-hung toilet and hidden cistern impossible. However, on the architectural plans (not AS BUILT), there is a VS and SS just about at 6 feet from the existing WC toilet. If I am correct and there is only one vent stack and one soil stack at 6' or less, is it possible that the plumber was incorrect? I got the feeling he likes to keep life consistent without change or new plumbing ideas for convenience. But I don't want to misjudge him! We are also speculating on installing a single breaker tankless water heater and he groaned at that. Well, he groaned more at the idea of a whole home 3-breaker tankless water heater. What is your experience with ELECTRIC tankless water heaters in the USA? Nay or Yay? THANKS SO MUCH IF TIME IS POSSIBLE TO REPLY.!!

  • @mattywho8485
    @mattywho8485 Месяц назад +1

    Even your quick mock up of plumbing looks WAY better than the electrical in that building !

  • @MrMindlink
    @MrMindlink 4 месяца назад +1

    Great information - clear and concise, with mockups to boot. Thank you.
    My something nice (within an hour...) - I recommend rotating your camera to Landscape mode. A phone is easily rotated from Portrait to landscape, while my ultrawide monitor is not capable of rotating from landscape to portrait. ;-]

  • @mikehaisell4301
    @mikehaisell4301 11 дней назад

    Great videos! Just went out and bought a bunch of pipe and fittings to do this. Would you keep the vents at 2" all the way up or go down to 1.5" on the vents?

  • @jayahmadi4074
    @jayahmadi4074 10 месяцев назад

    Great video!
    I am looking to move my kitchen sink on floor 1. Can I simply tee a sloped 2” PVC approximately 6ft long into the current vertical drain coming from directly above and going under the slab?

  • @fastway007
    @fastway007 Год назад

    Good vid in the fact you created more questions than answers

  • @michaelcanning7934
    @michaelcanning7934 3 месяца назад

    Awesome explanation Jeff, T Y. I will be installing a Geberit wall mount toilet in a power room. Question…. Could you explain the best method of venting that toilet and lavatory? Could I use one of the IPS Mini-Vent valve to vent this combo? Thank in advance and just subscribed to your channel.

  • @porkchop10
    @porkchop10 4 месяца назад

    Nice video. My home is a 1968, with one main vent stack. I have a 1/2 bath with a washer/dryer sharing one room in the basement. Id like to relocate the washer and dryer just outside of that room, and install a shower in their place. Obviously there's some concrete busting and routing to do, but would adding the additional, new washer drain to that area pose any issues? Figure the water lines and electric are currently accessible, so hoping moving the washer/dryer a few feet wont be a total nightmare to add that much needed 2nd shower.

  • @thefack149
    @thefack149 23 дня назад

    wholesome call to action. love it.
    also extremely informative. thank you for that

  • @christophermapes5176
    @christophermapes5176 8 месяцев назад

    Perfect time-efficient tutorial! Wow, very nice and brief explanation, man! I just Subscribed!

  • @joeymonsevais503
    @joeymonsevais503 Месяц назад

    Nice video, straight to the point.
    I will subscribe to your channel . Thanks
    Do you know if fernco donuts are up to code. For joining pvc into cast iron?

  • @robertstonebreaker8394
    @robertstonebreaker8394 Месяц назад

    A couple of times I got drafted to rod out some lines with no prevail talked to friend of mine who is a plumber he told to go up on the roof with a garden hose and shoot in down the vent stack it worked .

  • @2K5W9M1
    @2K5W9M1 Год назад +1

    On your wet vent application i have a question. From your first lavatory you had a tee with a riser. Am i correct to assume that that is a traditional vent that turns into a wet vent from the fixture and beyond?

  • @springhug7587
    @springhug7587 7 месяцев назад +2

    Awesome! Thank you. I’m about to try this myself, instead of hiring the plumber. I might end up spending more, but I’m giving it a try. I could mess up a few times before I reach the estimated cost. I might just do it and be able to help others save a few bucks too.

  • @andrey162000
    @andrey162000 7 месяцев назад +1

    Finally a fellow plumber that can explain venting/wet venting and trap protection from syphoning. I cringe with some explanations out there, so much bad advice homeowners follow.

  • @JACMCC73
    @JACMCC73 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for video. How can i get a recommendation layout for a Bathroom?

  • @michaelsparks6084
    @michaelsparks6084 Год назад +4

    Pretty solid explanations, although California Code and the International Code has a couple of extra requirements for wet venting, namely.
    The vent line must be taken off the drain above the cross section and you must increase the drain pipe size by 1.
    Example: The pipe going to the lav off of the shower would need a 22* or 45* fitting and the pipe from that wye to the 3’’ would need to be
    2 1/2’’ or 3’’. The other Lav would only need a 22* or 45* since the tub drain minimum is 11/2’’ an I believe you ran 2’’.
    I am sure the way you have these fixtures plumbed they would work perfectly, this is just the codes we have to adhere to in my world.
    Also I have Plumbed in Europe and also own a couple of houses there and our standards are more rigorous to put it kindly.
    (Licensed Plumbing Contractor for 30 years, retired)

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  10 месяцев назад +1

      Thanks for your comments. It's very interesting how codes differ in different areas.

  • @tedknudstrup6101
    @tedknudstrup6101 Месяц назад

    Nice venting demo, not trying to nitpick, but thought the bathroom group wet vent, each fixture was required to connect separately and individually to the branch the 3 inch branch? Just looking for clarification on the code?

  • @MrCoreyCoreyCorey
    @MrCoreyCoreyCorey 7 месяцев назад

    Thanks for the video! This helped me a lot!
    I don't know if you'll see this, and speaking of dry vents - I bought a 55 year old bungalow and I've discovered there is what I suspect to be an old copper 2" dry vent. I was noticing some drips/green stains near the bathroom basement ceiling fan vent cover and on the floor beneath the fan. I saw that there was just a horizontal run of this 2" mystery copper pipe, left uncapped and open right next to the fan body, it was dripping down though the grate. I assumed I was getting condensation from it. Well, what do I know? Not enough! I got a fitting and capped it. Seemed okay for a time. One day much later, heard a loud bang, and big mess from the basement ceiling. So I rip out that section of ceiling, and I see this same 2" pipe had a bend to send it vertical and through a main floor bedroom wall. The soldered bend gave way and dumped what was collecting in this pipe. Today I see in the attic that this pipe goes up into some long cylindrical copper fitting (maybe 4 or 6 inch around) and out through the roof.
    Would you have any suggestions for decommissioning this properly? I think the only thing to do is remove the whole darned thing, it's likely to attract condensation any way I think about it, and if I cut and cap it anywhere I'll have the potential to trap water that might surprise me again with damage.
    Anyway, if you happen to see this and have any thoughts I'd appreciate it!

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  7 месяцев назад

      Hey there. It sounds like you have the right idea as far as getting rid of it if possible. If you just cap it, it will just fill with rain water over time. You would just need to make sure that there is nothing else tied into it before you completely abandon it. The other option would be to find a way to tie it into the existing sanitary sewer so it all is connected. Hope this helps.

    • @MrCoreyCoreyCorey
      @MrCoreyCoreyCorey 7 месяцев назад

      @@risingtideplumbing thanks for the reply! I appreciate it.

  • @cadillac8597
    @cadillac8597 6 месяцев назад

    Can you tie the vents together above the ceiling so you have 1 roof penetration? Or tie the vents into the main vent stack?

  • @VamooseRooter1
    @VamooseRooter1 Месяц назад

    Esta vacan teacher!!

  • @DODGERS-br8tf
    @DODGERS-br8tf Год назад +1

    I’m not sure how this video popped up on my recommendation but great job bro 🤘🏼🤘🏼I’m a UA UNION PLUMBER it’s art to me tbh cast iron solder brazing etc I love it all plus awesome money over $100,000 a year love it

    • @risingtideplumbing
      @risingtideplumbing  Год назад

      Thanks so much Luis. It’s a great living and very fulfilling.

  • @scoobtoober2975
    @scoobtoober2975 Год назад

    What's your opinion/experience with vent stack tree leaves messing it up. Would you put something on it to stop leaves from coming in. Thanks

  • @johnparkhurst825
    @johnparkhurst825 3 месяца назад

    Not a plumber but did my own house. I dey dey vented everything as I didn't know about wet . Fortunately it's a ranch, pretty simple but I'll remember if I do more plumbing

  • @rickraub5448
    @rickraub5448 8 месяцев назад

    What is a “vented” elbow? Can I use it for a pool plumbing fix?

  • @AReturntoSimplicityFarms
    @AReturntoSimplicityFarms Месяц назад +1

    Can you have a wet vent and a dry vent on the same system?

  • @MrDearCandy
    @MrDearCandy Месяц назад

    Thanks for this video, I have a question, Can I exit my plumbing vent pipe through the attic side opening? I do not want to drill the roof, so I am trying to make the pipe exit through little window opening in the attic, and make the vent pipe terminate 6 inches as per code. Can this be a correct setup?

  • @user-sh8is2my1h
    @user-sh8is2my1h 4 дня назад

    When you said up to four fixtures per vented leg, if there is a washer box drain on the opposing side of the wall from the toilet, could I also tie it in as one of the fixtures?

  • @Ryanrock2
    @Ryanrock2 Год назад

    good info

  • @kotaplumbingandheating
    @kotaplumbingandheating Год назад +4

    In Canada, the wc has to be the most downstream connection in the wet vent. It can be symmetrically connected however it still must be the last fixture draining onto the branch

    • @chcataneo
      @chcataneo Год назад +1

      In Florida we call that major over minor. You cant run a major past a minor............

    • @joshm5816
      @joshm5816 Год назад

      Kinda a dumb way to plumb. If everything downstream of a water closet is vented, then the toilet will cause no issues. If you're talking a major over a minor, in my area, that would be in the vertical. For example, tying in a washing machine on top of a lavatory below would definitely cause issues.

    • @kotaplumbingandheating
      @kotaplumbingandheating Год назад +1

      The water closet is the most downstream on the wet vented branch due to the volume and velocity of the water moving through the pipe after a flush the concern is that it could siphon a trap if the WC upstream of say a tub or shower

    • @andrey162000
      @andrey162000 7 месяцев назад

      Don’t speak for all of Canada. This is how most of Ontario plumbing is done, excluding some townships that are still old school plumbing code

  • @gregghodge6130
    @gregghodge6130 Месяц назад

    Are air admittance valves any good and/or legal for a stand alone for say a washer drain?

  • @babyboinews6896
    @babyboinews6896 Год назад

    @rising tide plumbing what is the keys to priming pipe without it looking crazy and too far away from the fitting? Also, what is the process of roughing in undergroun plumbing without digging too deep or how far should you dig when doba rough in bathroom group