The GOATTTTT Only exception is I used A25 for power for my wideband o2 sensor and gauge (a26 is ground, d14 for o2/wideband signal (white wire for aem) I instead used a25 I think it was on the D plug for 12v. (ill try and remember which one..)
Ayyyyy! I haven't wired up my wideband for closed loop yet, before I just ran it on open loop! But I think I'll be switching to closed! Prolly make a video on it!
@@theedge5584 so when your running in open loop, you don't have to wire your wideband to your ecu! I actually decided to to keep my car on open loop after talking to some local tuners about it. Reason being is that when you are running closed loop your ecu adjusts your fuel live to keep it at 14.7 afr. Which is fine for n/a cars. But for high HP turbo cars you want your afr around 12:1 when doing fat pulls!
Hello I have an s300 V2, I was wondering if I could have on flex fuel on my H22a on high boost to push 700 hp. My car is turbocharged. I hope someone can help me here, im new to this honda community and this is my first street race car.
This page helped me alot getting it all setup, since you are running an s300 V2 that doesn't have a digital input option. You need to run an ethanol content sensor as well as analyzer, this takes your frequency signal from your sensor and converts it to the 1-5v analog signal that your s300 V2 can read.
At first yes, but now I'm running -an lines all the way from the pump to the fpr, you can see make the conversion here ruclips.net/video/LMrDm6dCVmQ/видео.html
Question. WHy not plug the signal wire to the other connector that says ethonal on the digital side? WOuldnt it accept it too or will this only accept it as an analog sign on the analog side?
Good question! I believe everything is explained best on the hondata site. Here is a link to the guide I followed, my setup is working great! www.hondata.com/help/smanager/index.html?flex_fuel.htm
@@kraftingkarsI noticed in the video that there wasn't a 2.4k ohm resistor wired between the Out and Vcc as mentioned in the guide. I was wondering if this step is necessary?
A few more questions if you don't mind, any fuel tank corrosion issues? What is the ideal Lambda on e85 for idle, cruise and full throttle? Do you have a chart? Any issues with engine oil compatibility and engine longevity ? e85 combustion byproducts are different from petrol. Thank you in advance.
So it gets kinda confusing thinking about target air fuel ratios with e85 and regular fuel. The stoichiometric ratio is different for each. But the target Lamda will be the same, Which is Lamda 1. Since most AFR gauges and ECU's read in lambda and then convert that number to Air fuel ratio. Your targets in your map and on your gauge are gonna be the same. So 14.7 at idle ~10-11 Wide open throttle, 14.5 for cruising.
Benefits of flex fuel is you can fill up at any gas station with any fuel that you like besides diesel. Putting e85 in a car without a ethanol content sensor is ok if the car is tuned on exactly e85, but the gas stations around me are not consistent enough for that, best I get is E65 around my house
Nope! As long as your senser is in line with your fuel return you are good! A nice 3 port fpr with an fittings helps with keeping things simple and reliable!
Yes I would definitely recommend that! Most aftermarket/performance pumps and injectors are built to be e85 safe. I believe they use a different kind of rubber seal that holds up better to e85
The GOATTTTT Only exception is I used A25 for power for my wideband o2 sensor and gauge (a26 is ground, d14 for o2/wideband signal (white wire for aem) I instead used a25 I think it was on the D plug for 12v. (ill try and remember which one..)
That's awesome! Thanks man!
Enjoyed the video my man, keep up the good work.
-RicerForLife
Thanks man!
Quick reference diagram at the end of the video
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I was literally just looking this up yesterday, amazing video. Also when you wired your Wideband, did you use D10 or D14?
Ayyyyy! I haven't wired up my wideband for closed loop yet, before I just ran it on open loop! But I think I'll be switching to closed! Prolly make a video on it!
@@kraftingkars Yea I'd like to see that video....I didn't realize you could wire it in open or closed loop???? Cant wait for next video
@@theedge5584 so when your running in open loop, you don't have to wire your wideband to your ecu! I actually decided to to keep my car on open loop after talking to some local tuners about it. Reason being is that when you are running closed loop your ecu adjusts your fuel live to keep it at 14.7 afr. Which is fine for n/a cars. But for high HP turbo cars you want your afr around 12:1 when doing fat pulls!
@@kraftingkars Ahh i see thanks for the info. Very appreciated
D10
So the 3rd wire just needs a 12v supply for the sensor? Nice video mate
Yessir! Left to right it is VCC(power), Ground, and signal. To get the most accurate readings it is recommended to use the main 12v wire for the ecu
My Bluetooth hondata app isn’t registering the ethanol content. Happen to know why? Thank you!
Did you wire your sensor like mine? And make the same changes to your map?
Hello I have an s300 V2, I was wondering if I could have on flex fuel on my H22a on high boost to push 700 hp. My car is turbocharged. I hope someone can help me here, im new to this honda community and this is my first street race car.
www.hondata.com/help/smanager/index.html?flex_fuel.htm
This page helped me alot getting it all setup, since you are running an s300 V2 that doesn't have a digital input option. You need to run an ethanol content sensor as well as analyzer, this takes your frequency signal from your sensor and converts it to the 1-5v analog signal that your s300 V2 can read.
It's a great idea to run e85 in that car! It will be much safer!
Do i need the sensor to run e85 i thought u didnt need it
If you're running e85 only, then no.
Most e85 pumps in my area don't have exactly 85% Ethanol fuel, which is where the sensor comes in handy!
question, did you only use a hose clamp on the braided return and feed lines that connect to the oem lines by the brake booster?
The short braided lines from the stock lines to the 3 port fpr.
At first yes, but now I'm running -an lines all the way from the pump to the fpr, you can see make the conversion here ruclips.net/video/LMrDm6dCVmQ/видео.html
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Question. WHy not plug the signal wire to the other connector that says ethonal on the digital side? WOuldnt it accept it too or will this only accept it as an analog sign on the analog side?
Good question! I believe everything is explained best on the hondata site. Here is a link to the guide I followed, my setup is working great! www.hondata.com/help/smanager/index.html?flex_fuel.htm
@@kraftingkarsI noticed in the video that there wasn't a 2.4k ohm resistor wired between the Out and Vcc as mentioned in the guide. I was wondering if this step is necessary?
@JeminoWayde the manual says to run a 2.4k resistor btwn vcc(+) and out(white wire).
A few more questions if you don't mind, any fuel tank corrosion issues?
What is the ideal Lambda on e85 for idle, cruise and full throttle? Do you have a chart?
Any issues with engine oil compatibility and engine longevity ? e85 combustion byproducts are different from petrol.
Thank you in advance.
There shouldn't be any fuel tank corrosion issues, ethanol will damage rubber over time, but won't harm steel.
So it gets kinda confusing thinking about target air fuel ratios with e85 and regular fuel. The stoichiometric ratio is different for each. But the target Lamda will be the same, Which is Lamda 1. Since most AFR gauges and ECU's read in lambda and then convert that number to Air fuel ratio. Your targets in your map and on your gauge are gonna be the same. So 14.7 at idle ~10-11 Wide open throttle, 14.5 for cruising.
what firewall grommet is that if you dont mind me asking??
Just the factory grommet, I opened it up a little bit to fit all the new wires
It looked like you used NA lines not PTFE
They are ptfe now!
Can’t find the harness
Here is another affordable option www.hamotorsports.com/products/s300e85harness
What's the benefits or what happened if I don't use it??
Benefits of flex fuel is you can fill up at any gas station with any fuel that you like besides diesel. Putting e85 in a car without a ethanol content sensor is ok if the car is tuned on exactly e85, but the gas stations around me are not consistent enough for that, best I get is E65 around my house
Thanks for the advice I received the tucked harness I lurned a lot , now let's get some fun, appreciated
Do you need to tune it to run e85
Nope not necessary, now that's is flex fuel you can run any fuel you want
What happens to the fuel pump, injectors and fuel lines? Are these components going to corrode?
Yep, you want to have each of those components be e85 safe. I'm running walbro 450 fuel pump, deatchworks 1000cc injectors, ptfe fuel line, etc
When i watched you build the hoses, pretty sure they're AN, not PTFE
Nice video
Thanks! Hope it helps!
What ecu are you running?
It's a hondata p28
Do I need a 3 port FPR?
Nope! As long as your senser is in line with your fuel return you are good! A nice 3 port fpr with an fittings helps with keeping things simple and reliable!
Do u have to use E85 fuel pump and injectors or u can use normal ones?
Yes I would definitely recommend that! Most aftermarket/performance pumps and injectors are built to be e85 safe. I believe they use a different kind of rubber seal that holds up better to e85
Where to buy the harnesses?
Straight from the wireworx website
I hate wiring jobs lol
Oh come on😂 this shiiit light work!