Sam, I love so many things about your channel. But the one thing that keeps me coming back for more is just how you consistently go straight to the point. Unlike many drag race and care review channels that talk their viewers to death, you give the numbers and then go straight to the race. Your channel by far is the best drag race channel ever. Keep up the good work!
Ok the truth is that I think that the KIA might look good but I’ve heard nothing but bad about KIA and Hyundai motors , the Stinger is a very attractive car and has a certain thing about it that I like , now the Dodge sounds cool but I’m not a dodge fan and I like Audi a bunch but I’ve heard that reliability isn’t there ? I don’t know that for sure but I’ve heard things . Now Honda is quality , type R or the si doesn’t matter , Toyota again is quality but not up there with Honda but it’s high , VW wants to be good and it try’s but it is pron to break downs and needs special tools and that’s just not right to do to your customers.
@vroomgc yeah, we know that, that's the reason I made the comment. They're luxury sport sedans with decent sound insulation. Yet, the Dodge is so loud that it breaks through the sound insulation quite easily and even drowned out the Audi and Kia V6s.
"Legends" Dude, their engines are notorious for having low performance numbers when compared to AMGs, GTRs, and other perfomance-spec models from various brands. (Speaking of Dodge)
Exactly Now we are all getting shoved awd electric cars..I will avoid for as long as possible Plug in hybrid is a hood idea to thw idoits in California
@@benjacobson7490 how can 2 wheels of traction launch as good as 4 wheels of traction? I understand the geometry, but I would think the more rubber to the road, the better. Hence tubbing.
Yes we need this… on the roll the camaro and the mustang would be really close but the maro would pull at the top end barely cuz it’s also a bit lighter. That being said mustang 2nd place, 392 3rd but not by far👍🏽 IF ALL OF THEM ARE AUTO TRANS
@@nuclearcherry4900 I only say that because I’ve beaten SSs on roll races before in a 392 but the 5.0 is neck and neck for a bit then pulls top end 130+
Thanks for never creating click bait, being succinct, and honest in your content. I may stupid, but the more I watch these drag races, the more I think Sam shares a track with throttle house
“What happened?” -Sam “Uhh idk what happened” -Audi *Audi literally turns off the electronic E brake as he launches in the first race* Lmfao you can even see the car jerk forward as the brake disengages
Looked like he accidentally tapped his shifter paddle which locked him in 1st lol, bounced it off the limiter realised it then jammed his shifter back to get it back to auto lmao.
The Lambda 3.3 twin turbo motor has way more juice in it than what Kia gives you out the box. A JB4 on map 3 or 4 or a Tork Stage 1 ECU tune would be good for a mid 11 sec 1/4 mile with a trap speed of 115-118mph, even 120mph with other simple bolt ons. 4k lbs curb weight is honestly quite 'normal' for a modern sedan and "light weight" when compared to EV's of the same class that weight 6k to 7k lbs. Add a Tork TCU tune and you can brake boost (which I believe the S4 does factory, hence the more aggressive and faster 0-60 on display) during launch which improves an AWD Stinger's 0-60 to mid 3 seconds on stock tires. The 392 Charger is horribly under-tired and launching from a dig is a very challenging task, requiring planning, race compound tires, and good weather.
Audi S4 B9 fast a hell. Nobody talks about these. stock 1/4 12.8 tuned stage 1 11.85. also best interior German made. It's by far the best allaround car here.
You guys don't have RS4's in the states, same engine as the RS5...that's on another level and would take that American muscle crap that sounds really good
Amazing, 3 of my fav cars going at it. Owned a S4, now owning a Stinger, it's nearly impossible for me to pick a favorite. Such good cars. Thank you for this!
@@FastRedPonyCar Audi felt a bit more robust but overall they're both very good. It's pretty close IMO. I drive my kids in the Stinger every day, nothing has fallen apart yet. 😅 but some people have reported a few problems with the newer models, so it's a mixed bag. On the other end of "quality", S4 had carbon, Stinger has alcantara, different luxury styles. The dashboard's better on the Audi, but I prefer the seats in the Stinger. They're different, yet very close. Know what I mean?
@@minaguirguis8897 same power, more features, better service, better warranty, and cost about 30K Canadian $ less. 4 years later, the KIA is aging better than my Audi did.
One of the best videos I've seen in comparison. That Dodge Charger is heavy and has trouble from a Dig but is a beast once the wheels are rolling at a 40 and 50 roll.
More like a bear, slow to start and heavy, but once moving its strong. Not fast though, unless you think slightly beating a 350hp car classifies it as that :)
@@name4754 put a tune on the stinger and watch it shit on the hemi lol but stock for stock the 392 wins cause some stingers are RWD. Completely different cars tho, ones built for ride quality and the other is American muscle
Own a stinger myself, good all rounder. But no denying the S4 is a monster and its always a pleasure to see one, I really like the lines of the body work on them
Had a feeling the AWD ones get better launch from a dig than the rwd charger but that thing is so loud 👍, if I were to choose a car out of these 3 I would choose the Kia stinger, it looks awesome an plenty quick enough stunning car 👌🏴
I'll say it, the guy in the Stinger has way more mass than the Audi on those runs. It makes a difference, it really does. I mean, we're talking close to 200lbs difference. That matters.
@@CharlieBrown-mx4gq and all designed by similar CAD programs. That was a pretty naïve comment. The main designer of the Stinger worked for Audi for 20yrs.
I'd honestly rather just get the Stinger out of the 3. Best bang for your buck and it was right up there with the rest of them. Plenty enough performance for daily driving, but has hella great features for the price.
@@TheSterwin it's pretty much the same car , they share a lot of parts. I prefer the stinger it looks more sporty while the genesis looks more mature and kinda boring in my opinion.
@@enriquepalomino8554 dude…u serious🤣🤣🤣…new genesis g70 is dope when compared with stinger…even if the engines are same…g70 is much more lighter, hence faster and sexier…stinger holds more weight than it wants…so i would just call it a Kia..😌 also the build quality and service is much better when it comes to genesis.
Great video... really fun to watch. One thing that perplexed me, though was the Charger. I expected it to lose the from dead stop as it's obviously traction limited, but what I didn't expect was how it bogged and then sounded like it short-shifted 1st into 2nd. Seems the launch control software could also use some attention.
That was so awesome!! Love the bud! I had an R/T and now I have a Stinger GT2! I desperately miss the sound of my Hemi, but I’m absolutely loving everything about my Stinger! Def just as fast as my R/T! 👍🏻
After the death of the beautiful NAT-ASP 6.3L engine in the C63 AMG , the next best now remains alive is this 6.4L Hemi V8 mated to that excellent 8 speed.
I'm always so shocked with how terrible people are at launching the 392s. I just traded in my widebody scat challenger on a ZL1 order, but I could consistently launch it close to perfect every time. Basically would out perform the factory rated numbers with every try (0-60 & 1/4). Maybe the 305s in the rear make a significant difference, I dunno. It's hard to watch though. Kinda glad I moved on so I'm not as invested on how people perform with them now 😅
@@just_a5.7 my best on the stock pirellis was 4.0 and 12.3 in the 1/4. Then I put on continental extremecontact sports when I needed new tires and my best was 3.8 and a 12.1 1/4 mile. Could pretty much replicate those numbers or very close to it on every try on the street. I feel like people try to launch too hard or something and then just spin like crazy 😆
@@lauzagna tires play a huge roll back when I was stock I was able to run 11.7 in my stock 2019 mustang gt on some micky Thompson ET street tires on the stock tires I couldn’t hit faster then 12.4
So, few things here. First of all, lets recognize Stinger is a great car for what you pay and also the Brand has done a good job like Hyundai by bringing these cars to the game. Now, Audi, is on another level of everything. With only 1 turbo (vs. 2 Stinger) made it better than the others. Twin turbo is on a RS model and that's another level. Quattro system is very hard to beat (specially the ultra or newer) but even haldex works great. Sam, Amazing video again. Suggestion for Next video: Audi S3 (new Model) Vs Elantra N. (both Stock)
The new S3 will have the same power plant as the Mk8 Golf R, which has already been proven in multiple independent tests to be a more powerful car than the EN. Not a race worth running..,again
@@nelsonvanvickle8862 let's not forget that the new Golf R is actually slightly quicker and faster than the New S3 so yes this would be a race worth running considering the Elantra N gave the new Golf R a run for its money (during the roll races ofcourse where it matters the most)
Great race. 👍 Thanks Sam for always bringing exciting content in your races. Been watching ever since way back and it just keeps getting better and always fun to watch. 🍻
Awesome races. Not surprised by the results. Charger was winning on a roll, that's a forgone conclusion. Not surprised the S4 beat the Stinger, considering the 200lbs weight difference and better factory launch control. Stingers factory launch control sucks. I think this is a good race for practical 4 door cars in the same price range. However I'd love to see an Audi S5 sportback versus the Stinger!
If only the stinger could build boost on LC i think it would be a different story. As a stinger owner i was happy with how well it kept up with the S4 and as soon as i seen the weight difference ik at the top end the S4 would start pulling just a little bit harder lol
@@Asiansxsymbol doesn’t matter, the S4 is lighter and not far off from making the same power. It’s a given. The Stinger does well with how much heavier it is
Great race , Audis launch control is another level, being a stinger owner the factory launch is terrible, that's why I got a tcu tune to build better boost at higher rpm on the launch. The charger is definitely no joke on a roll, that's where that torque shines. Would like to see the stinger with a jb4 against some v8s on a roll like the 392, 5.0 stangs and ss camaro
Our stinger from a roll walks away from scat packs and Cameros. I haven’t had the chance for a clean race with a 10 speed mustang yet, but I think it’d be close!
@@lilman227 simple, we either compare stock or we don't. Cus vice versa when those cars are full bolt on and run 85, I've encountered some nasty Camaros here in Cali freeways on the regular running drag paks
@@ricardo7352 I'm not sure I agree. Comparing similar power figures, or comparing similar price is completely fine. And more interesting for most people. You can decide what to get for the money. Or what performed better when they're at similar power. Fbo CPI lap3 tuned stingers will eat a e85 tuned 5.0 or camaro btw. Plenty of videos on RUclips of people running them.
@@Pratagraph lol hope the stingers dont blow up like all the 2.0 turbo gen coupes and optimas.love to see a hyundai tuned far enough to beat a mustang or camaro with over 200k on it
I'll personally take the Stinger GT. There's just something satisfying about a car Korean car besting and giving German and American Muscle a run for their money, and like they mentioned at the end of the video. A simple JB4 or minor mods and the Stinger GT completely changes.
@@SRTGHOSTS lmfao what? How is it not? A stock car with more horsepower and torque, of course it's fair to tune it. Would you say it's not fair when a built Civic B series beats a Lamborghini or McClaren? Try to use your head
@@jaym.9275 use your head car ain’t stock if you need to tune it and add bolt ons if you need to mod to make it fast obviously you bought the wrong car. My logic is people call scats slow but it’s the same ones who need jba and minor mods to be beat it. Let’s say a cammed scat goes against the same stinger it’s not a fair comparison then.
@@SRTGHOSTS So people shouldn't mod cars? We should only by cars and leave them stock and only enjoy their stock performance? What kind of ignorant logic is that? Have you ever of "Built not Bought"? It's about the joy of taking a car and making it faster than what it should be. I think you're either 10 years old or were dropped on your head as a child. Your argument makes no sense.
@@jaym.9275 obviously you can’t read. So I’ll try one more time. It’s ok to mod a car but if your going to mod a car don’t go bragging beating stock cars. “OH MY CAR NEEDS A TUNE AND IT WILL BEAT YOUR STOCK CAR”
4:44 The chubby guy isn't pushing the gas hard enough. Don't put the heavy one in the Stinger when it's already heavier than S4! Stinger is supposed to win the S4! 😭
I'm trying to decide between a nice 2013 jeep grand Cherokee limited 4x4 with the 5.7 hemi or Kia stinger. I'm not sure the year of the stinger for me. Car lot told me they can get me a stinger. The Cherokee has 73000 miles. It's crispy white with black rims. It's nice. Dunno anything about the stinger though other than I love em. Which should I pick? And would the stinger beat the 5.7 hemi Cherokee? I just had a 5.7 Cherokee n loved it and it was a beast
The Charger may have come in last on the dig passes but it sounds so much better then the Audi and Kia. Also you guys need to stop looking around when you are racing. That is very dangerous. Looking back at the other cars is not going to change the outcome. You will never see professional drag racers looking back or around. I think I criticized Uzi once for looking around and now he's on his game. Good for you UZI. SAFETY FIRST ALWAYS when racing.!
The Stinger's launch control is abysmal. It barely touches boost before launch. There are several tricks to make it launch harder, but that's the car's Achilles heel. Great for longevity and reliability to cover that 100k mile warranty, but leaves A TON of 60/150ft time on the table.
Love an S5 sportback and it was pretty much the only car other than the stinger I was looking at buying because it checked all the boxes.. But the fact that loaded to the same spec as the stinger it was 85K I just couldn't justify the extra 33K.
I love my Stinger !!!! its so smooth to drive.I got it when they 1st came out in Australia and I cant tell you how many times people would ask my about it at traffic lights and car parks !!!
The Audi was definitely the most impressive it had the least amount of power and still won the dig races and wasn't to far behind the SRT in the rolls. Wish it sounded like the SRT though lol nevermind the performance that exhaust is reason enough to buy one
@The Real Cat of 2020 it beat the stinger though😂 only one turbo vs the kia twin turbo and yes 200lbs heavier but still, the engine in the audi is definitely much better.
@@evaristocorripio5434 bruh that's what I'm saying the Audi won dig races 2&3 and the 1st dig the Audi lost cause the dude messed up with the e brake or something so I guess you can give the stinger that. But besides that the stinger lost every single race lol
@@nonamenoname4641 My point is that it is a solid performer for how new of a model it is, many people aren't even aware the Stinger exists. The S4 and Charger have been out for years with numerous generous with plenty of variations, they are not new to the game and are very well renowned.
Stinger has rwd too, probably not sold in Canada though. Also the older GTS and indigo blue models have drift mode, which is full rwd. My 2020 Stinger gt is about 20/80 in sport mode. 80% going to the rear
@@jitkr1489 Even if the quality of the interior is not up to par with the Audi, to my eyes, the cabin layout & design in the Stinger is better. But yeah, at $55K, I'd rather spend a little more and get a G80 Sport, even if it's a little slower. It's a more complete car.
@@gabrielgiron4273 Ok.. then call the Audi a VW. Its the same brand. lol.. whats branding got to do with it. The point is they chargwe that much for a Kia and its build isn't even in the ballpark
I mean with its weight and how much power is sent to the rear wheels only, what do you expect? It’s not designed to launch like the other two unless your on a prepped surface. But notice how the big V8 always comes back in the end. Yes, better drivers can launch cars better, but there’s a science behind this
Suggestion. Keep the camera angles from only one car. Dont need to switch to every car during the race. Checkout car wow they do it perfectly! Just a suggestion. Love the vids!
@@dwayneobas9095 that is true his camera angles are good. I think im explaining it wrong. I meant let the race play out. His camera angles cut off to the next car right after one car starts pulling. I prefer to watch the whole race from car and then see it from the second car but that could be just me.
Price is an interesting factor here (CAD because I'm Canadian). The Audi comes in at a base 64K The SRT is around 53K and the stinger is 36K.. All base prices but it should be noted that the Fully loaded Stinger is 51K.. The price to value here is mental for the stinger. I didn't think about it until seeing it against the S4 and knowing how much the one I test-drove was.
Sam, I love so many things about your channel. But the one thing that keeps me coming back for more is just how you consistently go straight to the point.
Unlike many drag race and care review channels that talk their viewers to death, you give the numbers and then go straight to the race. Your channel by far is the best drag race channel ever. Keep up the good work!
Thank you! I appreciate that :) I try not to waste peoples time.
@@SamCarLegion, we appreciate you. Also, thank you for the pin.
Nice !! Nem wants to rematch me with his new Nline , so i am game 😃
Ok the truth is that I think that the KIA might look good but I’ve heard nothing but bad about KIA and Hyundai motors , the Stinger is a very attractive car and has a certain thing about it that I like , now the Dodge sounds cool but I’m not a dodge fan and I like Audi a bunch but I’ve heard that reliability isn’t there ? I don’t know that for sure but I’ve heard things . Now Honda is quality , type R or the si doesn’t matter , Toyota again is quality but not up there with Honda but it’s high , VW wants to be good and it try’s but it is pron to break downs and needs special tools and that’s just not right to do to your customers.
It's hilarious. All you can hear inside the Audi and Kia during the roll race, is the Dodge. That thing is loud.
It genuinely made me laugh on that first roll 😂😂
Fr🤣🤣
Ya the Audi is a luxury performance car so the exhaust is quiet.
@vroomgc yeah, we know that, that's the reason I made the comment. They're luxury sport sedans with decent sound insulation. Yet, the Dodge is so loud that it breaks through the sound insulation quite easily and even drowned out the Audi and Kia V6s.
@@Average_Bruh Yep its engine is truly louder than its bite.
The fact that kia was put up against legends like Audi and Dodge gives me a new found respect for Kia. Great job guys
Kia was a spectator in that race....i always thought it was fast😂
:v They were good for 2 years, now all their cars are electric. Lame
"Legends" Dude, their engines are notorious for having low performance numbers when compared to AMGs, GTRs, and other perfomance-spec models from various brands.
(Speaking of Dodge)
@@khangraw still have the 2023 stinger and the 2024 stinger tribute
Its still a cheap trash kia.
Went as expected. Obviously charger will win the roll. Too much power. AWD always going to have better launches from a dig. Love those stingers.
100%
Exactly
Now we are all getting shoved awd electric cars..I will avoid for as long as possible
Plug in hybrid is a hood idea to thw idoits in California
the best launching cars where it matters have been RWD but on the streets AWD
AWD doesn't always launch better. Proper suspension geometry, tires, and wheels a rwd will launch just as hard
@@benjacobson7490 how can 2 wheels of traction launch as good as 4 wheels of traction? I understand the geometry, but I would think the more rubber to the road, the better. Hence tubbing.
Can we get a 392 vs 5.0 vs LT1 race, that’d be sick.
We need this 100%
I think from a dig, 1. 5.0 2. LT1. 3. 392. From a roll, 1. 5.0 2. 392 3. LT1. Would be good races all around though.
@@eddy3080 Close But from a Dig its 1.LT1, 2.5.0, 3.392 and from a 50 roll its 5.0,LT1,392
Yes we need this… on the roll the camaro and the mustang would be really close but the maro would pull at the top end barely cuz it’s also a bit lighter. That being said mustang 2nd place, 392 3rd but not by far👍🏽 IF ALL OF THEM ARE AUTO TRANS
@@nuclearcherry4900 I only say that because I’ve beaten SSs on roll races before in a 392 but the 5.0 is neck and neck for a bit then pulls top end 130+
Been waiting on some more S4 action! Thanks for all of y’all’s hard work!
Thanks for never creating click bait, being succinct, and honest in your content.
I may stupid, but the more I watch these drag races, the more I think Sam shares a track with throttle house
He's not though
@@mattsmith7379 can you prove it
Shares cars too. The blue c8.
“What happened?” -Sam
“Uhh idk what happened” -Audi
*Audi literally turns off the electronic E brake as he launches in the first race*
Lmfao you can even see the car jerk forward as the brake disengages
This is the comment I was looking for lol
This channel easily houses some of the least intelligent drivers on RUclips.
Looked like he accidentally tapped his shifter paddle which locked him in 1st lol, bounced it off the limiter realised it then jammed his shifter back to get it back to auto lmao.
Doesn't look like he actually engaged launch control at any point, either.
If the Stinger somehow would become less than 4000lbs with no issues, it'd be a speed demon in that class
The RWD is right under 40 lbs
@@904justify+ weight of a person so 4000+
The Lambda 3.3 twin turbo motor has way more juice in it than what Kia gives you out the box. A JB4 on map 3 or 4 or a Tork Stage 1 ECU tune would be good for a mid 11 sec 1/4 mile with a trap speed of 115-118mph, even 120mph with other simple bolt ons. 4k lbs curb weight is honestly quite 'normal' for a modern sedan and "light weight" when compared to EV's of the same class that weight 6k to 7k lbs. Add a Tork TCU tune and you can brake boost (which I believe the S4 does factory, hence the more aggressive and faster 0-60 on display) during launch which improves an AWD Stinger's 0-60 to mid 3 seconds on stock tires. The 392 Charger is horribly under-tired and launching from a dig is a very challenging task, requiring planning, race compound tires, and good weather.
@@xerago9707 especially the weight of a 400 lbs driver 😂😂😂😂
Your just making me want the Kia stinger more and more.
@@angel-of-hell4778 nah! me too bro lol
@@angel-of-hell4778 i have it. Best decision i ever made
Of these 3 vehicles, I would choose the Audi S4 personally.
Yo es estiger
My boy in the Audi has that Spelling Bee Champ focus.
What a beautiful sound from that Hemi. Sad to think these are going to disappear from production
Audi gang, dont sleep on the s4👍
Sleep!?
Audi is sheet
Lol dont sleep on the kia
Don't audis leak
Audi is the most dumbest investment I ever made those cars are garbage asf
Audi S4 B9 fast a hell. Nobody talks about these. stock 1/4 12.8 tuned stage 1 11.85. also best interior German made. It's by far the best allaround car here.
You got that right!! Love my 2019 S4
Couldn’t have said it better myself
You should see the 2014 RS5, had one, awesome… Got a Z06 now…
Shit I do 12.5 in the 1/4 in my bone stock stinger when you can actually build
Boost on launch doing parking brake launch.
You guys don't have RS4's in the states, same engine as the RS5...that's on another level and would take that American muscle crap that sounds really good
Amazing, 3 of my fav cars going at it. Owned a S4, now owning a Stinger, it's nearly impossible for me to pick a favorite. Such good cars. Thank you for this!
Interior quality of the stinger vs S4?
@@FastRedPonyCar Audi felt a bit more robust but overall they're both very good. It's pretty close IMO. I drive my kids in the Stinger every day, nothing has fallen apart yet. 😅 but some people have reported a few problems with the newer models, so it's a mixed bag. On the other end of "quality", S4 had carbon, Stinger has alcantara, different luxury styles. The dashboard's better on the Audi, but I prefer the seats in the Stinger. They're different, yet very close. Know what I mean?
Why would you go from an S4 to a Kia?
@@minaguirguis8897 same power, more features, better service, better warranty, and cost about 30K Canadian $ less. 4 years later, the KIA is aging better than my Audi did.
@@DarioDAversa Comparing Audi and Kia is hilarious. I am from Europe, we do not like cheap plastic vehicles.
One of the best videos I've seen in comparison. That Dodge Charger is heavy and has trouble from a Dig but is a beast once the wheels are rolling at a 40 and 50 roll.
More like a bear, slow to start and heavy, but once moving its strong. Not fast though, unless you think slightly beating a 350hp car classifies it as that :)
It'd slow off a dig because it's rwd on factory 275s. If it had awd, or drag radials it would be game over lol.
@@vroomgc barely? put some radials on it and watch it shit on your stinger from a dig too
@@name4754 put a tune on the stinger and watch it shit on the hemi lol but stock for stock the 392 wins cause some stingers are RWD. Completely different cars tho, ones built for ride quality and the other is American muscle
@@archiarch10 your comparing tune to tire😂
What???
Charger on a roll, "It's my time now, power!!!"
Charger is slow
@@jasonmartinez2698 but it beat the other 2? It pulled away from them. Of course it lost from a dig. It spins it's tires.
@@XploreAz not only that but it's also just rwd no launch control. Kids will say anything is slow these days
Facts
@@jponz85 I had a Toyota Crown Athlete 3.5 with a 4.08 is350 rear diff swap that smoked a challenger srt on a roll so yes they are slow
On the roll that charger said “Its brucie time to shine” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lol the guy driving the charger looks exactly like what I imagine when I imagine who would own a mopar..😂🤷
Own a stinger myself, good all rounder. But no denying the S4 is a monster and its always a pleasure to see one, I really like the lines of the body work on them
Your Stinger looks better every day of the week.
@@jonesjonz1 not a fan of the new tail light design on the refreshed 22 models but I do adore my micro blue GT
@@nameplaceholder4895 agreed, also like the old rims more
Wow that S4 is absolutely amazing, though I shouldn't be surprised, my bro had the A4 and it was amazing, and a great daily driver.
Lol I love the second roll race. Charger SRT owner gives a smirk like "yeSSSS I finally WIN" .
Had a feeling the AWD ones get better launch from a dig than the rwd charger but that thing is so loud 👍, if I were to choose a car out of these 3 I would choose the Kia stinger, it looks awesome an plenty quick enough stunning car 👌🏴
I'll say it, the guy in the Stinger has way more mass than the Audi on those runs. It makes a difference, it really does. I mean, we're talking close to 200lbs difference. That matters.
True but the second race with Sam in the stinger he still lost to the S4
Stinger is a$$, Kia it’s just a Kia.
@@CharlieBrown-mx4gq and all designed by similar CAD programs. That was a pretty naïve comment. The main designer of the Stinger worked for Audi for 20yrs.
@@jesseturner6686 5:23 audi and the stinger is beside each other.
I'd honestly rather just get the Stinger out of the 3. Best bang for your buck and it was right up there with the rest of them. Plenty enough performance for daily driving, but has hella great features for the price.
Go for genesis instead…its another league
Wait till u tune it
@@json216 450whp with some light mods is a killer out of a stinger
@@TheSterwin it's pretty much the same car , they share a lot of parts. I prefer the stinger it looks more sporty while the genesis looks more mature and kinda boring in my opinion.
@@enriquepalomino8554 dude…u serious🤣🤣🤣…new genesis g70 is dope when compared with stinger…even if the engines are same…g70 is much more lighter, hence faster and sexier…stinger holds more weight than it wants…so i would just call it a Kia..😌 also the build quality and service is much better when it comes to genesis.
You should do mustang gt vs camaro ss vs challenger/charger 5.7 or srt
Please not a 5.7. A K5 gapped it, it would be lunch for those other two. It needs to be the 392 lol
Great video... really fun to watch. One thing that perplexed me, though was the Charger. I expected it to lose the from dead stop as it's obviously traction limited, but what I didn't expect was how it bogged and then sounded like it short-shifted 1st into 2nd. Seems the launch control software could also use some attention.
I like how they didn't show the charger driver's face until after the dig races lol!🤣
Dude wasn’t trying on the digs that’s why. I’ve never lost to either of these vehicles 😂 I beat Audi s7s from the line, no way I’d lose to an s4
@@ispeedalot ur in for a rude awakening bro lol.
I wish Audi guy would've built boost properly and more consistent, good race though! Thank you Sam, for another great match-up
Just gotta tune the audi it removes the artificial softening audi likes to include in their forced induction cars
I've seen plenty 392's beat a stinger in a drag. Not even close. Actually, the 392 is about 1/2 second quicker than both if launched correctly.
- dreaming
On a track of course , it’s actually faster than both, but it can’t put the power down on regular pavement
Exactly driver was terrible
Hellz naw! On a regular street surface, it ain't got a chance against the other 2. Keep dreaming! On a drag strip with slicks, then yeah.
@@Asiansxsymbol Nope, they raced the Stinger on this channel with 392 Charger and Challenger and they both walked the Stinger easily….
That was so awesome!! Love the bud! I had an R/T and now I have a Stinger GT2! I desperately miss the sound of my Hemi, but I’m absolutely loving everything about my Stinger! Def just as fast as my R/T! 👍🏻
Fast as an R/T? Or you meant SRT? I have a challenger R/T still yet to decide between stinger or giulia q4 hows the stinger?
Stinger is king 💪🏽
Should’ve done an Audi S6 sedan for the big sedan
After the death of the beautiful NAT-ASP 6.3L engine in the C63 AMG , the next best now remains alive is this 6.4L Hemi V8 mated to that excellent 8 speed.
You can still get the 6.2L V8 in the Camaro SS
Too bad the 6.4 sucks to mod and cant hold boost
@@sergeysmelnik well he just said NA…adding boost would make it not NA.
@@sergeysmelnik The 5.7 can make much more power, increase its displacement.
5:44 good to see Saul Goodman getting some races in.
Underated comment 😂
LMFAO he even made the same side eye glance look
He traded in that Suzuki Esteem for an SRT392…not bad
I'm not really a Mopar fan but there's no denying that charger sounds really good
No it doesn't. If you have a 2 cyl. Murray Lawn mower rider, Remove the muffler on that, And that sounds ..( by far) way more aggressive.
@@joejones6968 hater😂
@@joejones6968 So you get aroused by the sound of farts.
392 sound's incredible
AWD definitely is WAY more consistent. You can have all of the power but if you can’t put it to the ground it won’t matter.
I'm always so shocked with how terrible people are at launching the 392s. I just traded in my widebody scat challenger on a ZL1 order, but I could consistently launch it close to perfect every time. Basically would out perform the factory rated numbers with every try (0-60 & 1/4). Maybe the 305s in the rear make a significant difference, I dunno. It's hard to watch though. Kinda glad I moved on so I'm not as invested on how people perform with them now 😅
@@lauzagna wat was your 0 to 60 I got a 4.5 in my 2019 5.7 complete stock on 305 tires and pedal commander
@@just_a5.7 my best on the stock pirellis was 4.0 and 12.3 in the 1/4. Then I put on continental extremecontact sports when I needed new tires and my best was 3.8 and a 12.1 1/4 mile. Could pretty much replicate those numbers or very close to it on every try on the street. I feel like people try to launch too hard or something and then just spin like crazy 😆
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@@lauzagna tires play a huge roll back when I was stock I was able to run 11.7 in my stock 2019 mustang gt on some micky Thompson ET street tires on the stock tires I couldn’t hit faster then 12.4
Each video is getting better than the last one……great job!!
Nice comparison and races guys! All 3 were impressive but I just love the bad ass sound of that Charger angrily rumbling down the drag strip
So, few things here. First of all, lets recognize Stinger is a great car for what you pay and also the Brand has done a good job like Hyundai by bringing these cars to the game. Now, Audi, is on another level of everything. With only 1 turbo (vs. 2 Stinger) made it better than the others. Twin turbo is on a RS model and that's another level. Quattro system is very hard to beat (specially the ultra or newer) but even haldex works great. Sam, Amazing video again.
Suggestion for Next video: Audi S3 (new Model) Vs Elantra N. (both Stock)
nothing beats weight ratio. s4 is very very light and the driver is about 120lbs
The new S3 will have the same power plant as the Mk8 Golf R, which has already been proven in multiple independent tests to be a more powerful car than the EN. Not a race worth running..,again
@@SSH939 s4 is lighter. And you can have a heavier car with a better transmission and still be the winner for sure. (with good driver) -
@@nelsonvanvickle8862 let's not forget that the new Golf R is actually slightly quicker and faster than the New S3 so yes this would be a race worth running considering the Elantra N gave the new Golf R a run for its money (during the roll races ofcourse where it matters the most)
I like that idea for a race, the S3 and EN. However, I think the S3 will win.
Great race. 👍 Thanks Sam for always bringing exciting content in your races. Been watching ever since way back and it just keeps getting better and always fun to watch. 🍻
Thank you for your support
Charger: when you need to get to somewhere straight ahead
Another great video Sam! Love the sound of the Dodge!
50km/hr was 👌 👏 awesome. The look of the dodge guy was priceless.
That charger top end is nuts🫡
As expected but still was exiting to watch. Thank you.
Awesome races. Not surprised by the results. Charger was winning on a roll, that's a forgone conclusion.
Not surprised the S4 beat the Stinger, considering the 200lbs weight difference and better factory launch control. Stingers factory launch control sucks.
I think this is a good race for practical 4 door cars in the same price range. However I'd love to see an Audi S5 sportback versus the Stinger!
happened before, stinger won
Let's be honest here, the Stinger lost because that guy added a few hundred pounds to the car.
@@Asiansxsymbol the S4 wasn’t even using launch control and stinger still lost when Sam was driving. Stinger is the slowest of the 3
If only the stinger could build boost on LC i think it would be a different story. As a stinger owner i was happy with how well it kept up with the S4 and as soon as i seen the weight difference ik at the top end the S4 would start pulling just a little bit harder lol
@@Asiansxsymbol doesn’t matter, the S4 is lighter and not far off from making the same power. It’s a given. The Stinger does well with how much heavier it is
Great video guys and thanks for doing this for us, much appreciated and keep up the great work, regards Scott
Great race , Audis launch control is another level, being a stinger owner the factory launch is terrible, that's why I got a tcu tune to build better boost at higher rpm on the launch. The charger is definitely no joke on a roll, that's where that torque shines. Would like to see the stinger with a jb4 against some v8s on a roll like the 392, 5.0 stangs and ss camaro
Our stinger from a roll walks away from scat packs and Cameros. I haven’t had the chance for a clean race with a 10 speed mustang yet, but I think it’d be close!
@@lilman227 I mean in order to walk away from those cars on a roll in a stinger it has to be tuned, otherwise It would lose.
@@lilman227 simple, we either compare stock or we don't. Cus vice versa when those cars are full bolt on and run 85, I've encountered some nasty Camaros here in Cali freeways on the regular running drag paks
@@ricardo7352 I'm not sure I agree.
Comparing similar power figures, or comparing similar price is completely fine. And more interesting for most people.
You can decide what to get for the money. Or what performed better when they're at similar power.
Fbo CPI lap3 tuned stingers will eat a e85 tuned 5.0 or camaro btw. Plenty of videos on RUclips of people running them.
@@Pratagraph lol hope the stingers dont blow up like all the 2.0 turbo gen coupes and optimas.love to see a hyundai tuned far enough to beat a mustang or camaro with over 200k on it
That charger ON THE ROLL said Ugh finally POWAA LMAO
Fun to watch! Stinger was heavy for sure. Love to see my G70 AWD at 3850lbs in the same race. I'm too far away though....
Pretty sure Audi beats G70 roll/drag
@@NoobBehindTWheel Yeah, it's really close but that is the sport G70 AWD that weighs 150lbs more than my car. I think it would be super close.
It’s gonna gap them all
G70 barely beats the Stinger with the same engine. S4 would probably get it 7/10 times.
G70 vs S4
it'll be a close race, but I'll take the Genesis due to Audi being unreliable car lol and more expensive!
how about Sam ace a race with 2022 golf r vs 392 scat pack vs Camaro ss
I'll personally take the Stinger GT. There's just something satisfying about a car Korean car besting and giving German and American Muscle a run for their money, and like they mentioned at the end of the video. A simple JB4 or minor mods and the Stinger GT completely changes.
Shouldn’t have to tune it to beat stock cars not a fair comparison then.
@@SRTGHOSTS lmfao what? How is it not? A stock car with more horsepower and torque, of course it's fair to tune it. Would you say it's not fair when a built Civic B series beats a Lamborghini or McClaren? Try to use your head
@@jaym.9275 use your head car ain’t stock if you need to tune it and add bolt ons if you need to mod to make it fast obviously you bought the wrong car. My logic is people call scats slow but it’s the same ones who need jba and minor mods to be beat it. Let’s say a cammed scat goes against the same stinger it’s not a fair comparison then.
@@SRTGHOSTS So people shouldn't mod cars? We should only by cars and leave them stock and only enjoy their stock performance? What kind of ignorant logic is that? Have you ever of "Built not Bought"? It's about the joy of taking a car and making it faster than what it should be. I think you're either 10 years old or were dropped on your head as a child. Your argument makes no sense.
@@jaym.9275 obviously you can’t read. So I’ll try one more time. It’s ok to mod a car but if your going to mod a car don’t go bragging beating stock cars. “OH MY CAR NEEDS A TUNE AND IT WILL BEAT YOUR STOCK CAR”
4:44 The chubby guy isn't pushing the gas hard enough. Don't put the heavy one in the Stinger when it's already heavier than S4! Stinger is supposed to win the S4! 😭
Bring the stock m340 back for more races !!!
I'm trying to decide between a nice 2013 jeep grand Cherokee limited 4x4 with the 5.7 hemi or Kia stinger. I'm not sure the year of the stinger for me. Car lot told me they can get me a stinger. The Cherokee has 73000 miles. It's crispy white with black rims. It's nice. Dunno anything about the stinger though other than I love em. Which should I pick? And would the stinger beat the 5.7 hemi Cherokee? I just had a 5.7 Cherokee n loved it and it was a beast
You should add a brake snip to your Stinger to unleesh it starting line jump. Night and day since turbo can spool.
What is break snip? And where to get it?
Please do a 19-21 g70 vs a 22-22 g70, want to see if there is a difference in tuning
The Charger may have come in last on the dig passes but it sounds so much better then the Audi and Kia. Also you guys need to stop looking around when you are racing. That is very dangerous. Looking back at the other cars is not going to change the outcome. You will never see professional drag racers looking back or around. I think I criticized Uzi once for looking around and now he's on his game. Good for you UZI. SAFETY FIRST ALWAYS when racing.!
I would like to see the CT5 V (non-blackwing) against some of these sport light versions.
The CT5 V is really close to the TLX Type S. That would be a much more interesting race, it would get slaughtered here.
Just shows how being able to put the power down is key and hp will always win in the end
In a straight yes. Those heavy Dodge are no good on the twists. These 392 are 4,400 lbs.
Wait what? A car drag race live stream? GENIUS 💯❤️🏎🚔
Sam thank you and your crew so much ..I love the videos always a thrill to watch 💪💪😎💪💪
Thank you
That Audi is driving very conservative. Put that thing in manual, shut off traction control, and launch it properly.
Great video!! Me and my wife have two SRT Chargers and they are sooo loud, ppl love them 🏎💯
Do these all have the same transmission? ZF8hp70
You cheating on me Sam? You told me I was the one....!
Hahahahah
Stinger lugging around a ton more weight than the other two lol damn it did good considering!
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Nah charger is heavier.
@@Willster7471 im talking about the driver smh
The Stinger's launch control is abysmal. It barely touches boost before launch. There are several tricks to make it launch harder, but that's the car's Achilles heel. Great for longevity and reliability to cover that 100k mile warranty, but leaves A TON of 60/150ft time on the table.
That charger from heAD ON LOOKS SOO GOOD.......the best looking sedan out of the bunch
Great race. We need a tuned S4/S5 vs a tuned M340i/Supra.
yes lets see that BMW motor don't tune as well but are faster stock.
I'd take the S5 even if it came in 20th place just for the interior alone. But only on a 3 yr lease! 😉 Keep up the great match races!! 👌👌
Love an S5 sportback and it was pretty much the only car other than the stinger I was looking at buying because it checked all the boxes.. But the fact that loaded to the same spec as the stinger it was 85K I just couldn't justify the extra 33K.
@@chancemcclendon3906 same here bro, took the GT2 instead for only $40k
So what was rhe best? Im thinking of buying a s4
Big boy weighed that kia Down compared to the feather weight Audi driver and the Dodge is just too heavy but once it hooks 🤫🤫
I love my Stinger !!!! its so smooth to drive.I got it when they 1st came out in Australia and I cant tell you how many times people would ask my about it at traffic lights and car parks !!!
A hemi will always win a roll, never a dig
Have a 392 challenger and it's all about that v8 sound for me, she's not the fastest but that v8 roar is smiles all day.
I'd take the Dodge all day long. The exhaust sound is pure American muscle!
Can you start posting prices on the vehicles so I know what's the best dollar for horsepower ..? (DFH)
The Audi was definitely the most impressive it had the least amount of power and still won the dig races and wasn't to far behind the SRT in the rolls. Wish it sounded like the SRT though lol nevermind the performance that exhaust is reason enough to buy one
It was the lightest of the 3!
@The Real Cat of 2020 it beat the stinger though😂 only one turbo vs the kia twin turbo and yes 200lbs heavier but still, the engine in the audi is definitely much better.
@The Real Cat of 2020 the stinger won both races? Lmao what video are you watching😂😂. And a bigger engine with two turbos and only 368hp?
@@evaristocorripio5434 bruh that's what I'm saying the Audi won dig races 2&3 and the 1st dig the Audi lost cause the dude messed up with the e brake or something so I guess you can give the stinger that. But besides that the stinger lost every single race lol
@@brandonhughes401 exactly, idk what the other guy is saying haha
Does the driver of the SRT know where the gas pedal is(On the digs)?
He does - the tires on the other hand, are watching TV and not really interested in racing since…THEY CANT HOOK
@@SamCarLegion It can be a problem, remedied too. I have a 1320 and it seems to move a little better.
With a few modifications the Stinger is an absolute killer.
With a few mod, so is the S4, so is the charger, your point? Lol
@@nonamenoname4641 My point is that it is a solid performer for how new of a model it is, many people aren't even aware the Stinger exists. The S4 and Charger have been out for years with numerous generous with plenty of variations, they are not new to the game and are very well renowned.
Those srt 392s are a thing of beauty. Glad nobody called it a scatpack lol
It is…..it’s a scat pack with srt seats and the red seat belt…..
So basically the scat pack plus
Basically they are Scatpack engines. But rest srt
I’m just happy that the stinger was that close to the S4!
Ours has a tune, so it’s about 484hp at the crank. This greatly pleases me!
Yes! with two turbos..
Good races all around. I wish the two AWD cars had a RWD only mode so this would be even more fun.
The stinger does have a RWD only option
Stinger has rwd too, probably not sold in Canada though. Also the older GTS and indigo blue models have drift mode, which is full rwd. My 2020 Stinger gt is about 20/80 in sport mode. 80% going to the rear
I knew the charger is going to gap them from a roll
Nice, and the S4 has less power but weighs less too. Even the S3 is pretty quick now.
My mann with the Stinger!! This is crazy that it could be in the same category as these other cars. So exciting!
why? It costs as much as the S4. lol.. the interrior of the Audi will blow it away
@@jitkr1489 that's the point. You have a Kia up against top brand names and hauling ass 💯
@@jitkr1489 Even if the quality of the interior is not up to par with the Audi, to my eyes, the cabin layout & design in the Stinger is better. But yeah, at $55K, I'd rather spend a little more and get a G80 Sport, even if it's a little slower. It's a more complete car.
@@gabrielgiron4273 Ok.. then call the Audi a VW. Its the same brand. lol.. whats branding got to do with it. The point is they chargwe that much for a Kia and its build isn't even in the ballpark
For weight and size reasons I think racing the A7 would be more fair. The charger is big as hell compared to S4. Still great video.
Yeah I think the A6 3.0T or A7 would be a good race for the charger
If they knew how to launch that SRT better, that race could have been much closer
I mean with its weight and how much power is sent to the rear wheels only, what do you expect? It’s not designed to launch like the other two unless your on a prepped surface. But notice how the big V8 always comes back in the end. Yes, better drivers can launch cars better, but there’s a science behind this
Do all cars be stock from factory or do some have mods
Wish they did a roll around 20mph, seems to be where I feel the most pull from my Stinger.
Looks like Saul Goodman was driving that Charger SRT 🤣
Man that charger is LOUD!!!! 😆 🤣
Suggestion. Keep the camera angles from only one car. Dont need to switch to every car during the race. Checkout car wow they do it perfectly! Just a suggestion. Love the vids!
I think the angles he has on is better. Plus we get to see the drivers reactions. And with that we can tell if someone didn't do something correctly.
@@dwayneobas9095 that is true his camera angles are good. I think im explaining it wrong. I meant let the race play out. His camera angles cut off to the next car right after one car starts pulling. I prefer to watch the whole race from car and then see it from the second car but that could be just me.
@@jaman2366 Yeah I get what you are saying with the cutting.
Price is an interesting factor here (CAD because I'm Canadian). The Audi comes in at a base 64K The SRT is around 53K and the stinger is 36K.. All base prices but it should be noted that the Fully loaded Stinger is 51K.. The price to value here is mental for the stinger. I didn't think about it until seeing it against the S4 and knowing how much the one I test-drove was.
5:33 it´s incredible how the kia appears first in the camera and then the audi just "Nah ah"
Throw a stg1 tune on that s4 would probably gap that charger forsure in a roll
i dont know about the new audis but on the b 8.5 audi 900 bucks for a stage 1 gets you 100hp stage 2 and a pulley gets around 130hp
@@sdmc1972 you get more than that from the Stinger on just the $500 piggyback tune.
@@masonrieber8674 hope the newer kia hyundais take tunes better than the older ones cause all the 2.0 gen coupes and turbo optimas exploded