+Anthony Lorenzo The anti-cyclists always love to display their internet bravado, but none of them would ever put their money with their mouths are in real life. They know they'd be in prison so fast it would make their heads spin. If not, they know exiting their vehicles to pick a fight would result in several broken ribs after getting kicked by the cyclist's horse legs.
Riding in the door zone at 27mph is not the best idea. To avoid getting doored and to reduce close passing use the full lane [ride in the middle/left of the oil slick] and you won't lead drivers to think that there is enough room in the lane to squeeze by you.
7FZL229 Audi A3 sedan. This should be submitted as evidence for wreckless driving and assault with a weapon. It's Glendale. A lot of jerk off drivers there with their piece of crap European luxury cars thinking that it means something to others.
This is Los Angeles KTLA TV news reporter Steve Kuzj. We would like to talk to one of the bikers in this video. We want to highlight the reckless actions of the car driver and remind everyone how to share the road with cyclists. Please contact me ASAP. We want to show the story and video tonight, Monday, January 25th. Please email: steve.kuzj@ktla.com
It amuses me the amount of comments not taking in consideration the traffic rules and really believe just what they think the road is for and how has to be used as an excuse to justify their own hate and complexes 00:27 sign on the road is clear!
+snoopyPTS They should absolutely file a report. Inaction only leaves this jerk out on the streets, putting many other riders at risk of being attacked again.
I live on Chevy Chase Dr. in Glendale and I can attest to crazy drivers always running off cyclists and driving into the opposite lane, etc. Glendale is full of insane drivers.
The odd part is the guy that was making an effort to cut into the side whenever possible for easier traffic passing almost got hit and not the guy maintaining the line. Though it looks like the entire road appears to be bike shared.
The more experienced and safer rider is in the back filming. Notice that he doesn't ride in the door zone. People don't look before opening their doors after parking. Hiring a door at that speed is the same as getting hit by a car at that speed. This is why cyclists are taught to never ride in the door zone. Cyclists have died from it. They hit the door and can fall under the wheels of passing traffic. Similarly, the more experienced rider in the back doesn't move over for a couple seconds when there are no parked cars. Instead he maintains his line. This is safer because passing cars won't give him room to re-enter traffic and he'll have to slam on the brakes or squeeze in a couple feet of space between parked cars and cars goin 40+ mph. This is why he didn't move over. Not to be rude but because it is the safe thing to do. I believe that many drivers honestly are just unaware of why cyclists behave the way they do. It isn't to be rude but instead to be safe.
whoa!!!! anyone who agrees with the motorist or criticises the cylist is a cylist hater pure and simple. there is no logical reason to blame the cyclist for anything, they were going in a perfect line and at a good speed. cant believe some idiots on here saying the cyclists are to blame
+robinhood It's not the first time that it happened. There was a news about a bus driver revving and passing too closely. A cyclist could be someone's son, daughter, mother, father, husband, or wife.
That's the whole problem with road cycling. Motorists don't tend to know the law on road cycling or know anything on cycling safety. The ignorance on cyclist haters amazes me.
+jjschepis3 That's why I think cycling training should be taken before driving. Proper infrastructure would help so much. Studies say that number one cause of a fatal collision for cyclists involving a motorized vehicle is being rear ended. With protected bike lanes, you don't have to keep checking if the car behind is going to give you one metre of clearance. I'd rather have a peaceful ride than share exciting stories of narrowly avoiding collisions. I was close to being rear ended on a quiet neighbourhood bikeway. Too bad I only got a front view. It makes me wonder if I should get a daytime running light that cars use. Cars use them on quiet roads too.
I've been searching like crazy for studies that show that the number one cause of fatal collisions for cyclists involve being rear-ended by motorists, but I've found the opposite to be true. It seems that being rear-ended on a bicycle is rather rare, which would make complete sense. Even at 15mph, a cyclists is allowing the increase of reaction time to the driver, which would help prevent rear-end collisions, and many cyclists filter forward because of the belief of "you need to ride on the far right side of the road." Dooring, right hooks, left crosses, and pull-outs are much higher on the list of fatal bicycle accidents. However, because many states in the U.S. don't allow motorcyclists to filter forward, being rear-ended is a major cause of fatalities for motorcyclists. I support filtering for motorcyclists.
I think the driving test should be much more difficult than it is. I feel people should be able to get in and out of a skid, should show they can change their oil, tires, and light bulbs, and they should have to do things like ride a bicycle and drive a big rig just so they have respect for those that use those vehicles.
+Bradd1122 Wrong, Sparky. Intent is a large part of determining what degree of the law that the driver clearly broke. Evidence is all that is needed, and there is plenty. Warrants will be issued, so watch and learn.
+Bradd1122 He should face criminal charges. In PA where I live. It's a crime to force a cyclist off he road and you can face criminal charges for that.
+Bradd1122 Like tigford said...watch and learn...especially the law. Looks like the guy is being charged. laist.com/2016/04/28/justice_delivered_almost.php
+Jolly Righteous in LA with all the fucking traffic that city has, bicyclists are very much neccessary, and they save you waiting time in traffic because they could have been in a car
+Jolly Righteous : Cars slow you down far more often and cost you far more time. It's just that ignorant self entitled children like you can't bear to share like an adult. It's not that difficult to share the road with cyclists for a grown up.
+Jolly Righteous If you live anywhere near Los Angeles, you spend dozens of hours sitting in car-traffic every year. I think it's hilarious when a single bicycle is enough to make you freak out and blame all traffic on that one person. Look around you. Every freeway is clogged with cars. Every intersection forces you to stop to wait for other cars. It isn't that one guy on a bike who is slowing you down. It's other people like YOU. People in cars. You car drivers are a downright menace and burden to cyclists.
Unlike drivers, no-one depends on cyclists for basic needs... In fact if it were not for drivers, the economy would collapse over-night and we would begin to die in large numbers from lack of basics like, food, water, heat, medicine, healthcare and so on. So drivers keep far more alive than they kill and are not the enemies of the State that anti drivers claim.
I enjoy the evidence gathering video system on my bike. I'm glad this rider had one, too. I'd love to see the driver's face when he sees his car on the news, and then later when he realizes there is a warrant for his arrest.
+MrCrocodog I have a Cycliq. I love it. It records 720p in 10 minute increments, saves a file, then starts another. When it runs out of room on the memory (micro SD) it overwrites the older files. The rear-mounted camera has flashing red lights, is USB charged and only costs $160. I'll be getting their forward-mounted camera once it starts shipping.
+Bradd1122 Actually in many places reporting the person driving the car does do a lot. In some cases they will track the person down and cite them. But even at times where it seems like there is no action, there is a report and therefore a record of the incident in case the driver does it to other people.
Gunnar Soroos What exactly did the driver of that car do wrong? The driver of that car sped around the cyclist like other cars were doing then hit the brakes, the cyclist should have been slowing down as a car sped in front of them the cyclist then scream woah multiple times as if the driver of the car has done something wrong.
In many locations stopping your car with the intent to cause an accident is against the law, as well as using your car in an aggressive manner to intimidate another person. Also passing too close in an unsafe manner. It doesn't make sense that someone should be slowing down for someone speeding around them. But no matter, the cyclists were able to avoid the car without crashing. There's no law against exclaiming whoa when you are surprised even if you believe that the person driving the car didn't do anything wrong.
From looking at these comments, there are so many tossers out there that cycling is too dangerous. More cycle paths are needed that are nowhere near the loonies in cars.
I wear a custom t-shirt when doing 40 km time trials on the roads " 14 kg bike - EPO Free" and a picture of a Koala . Every car that passes me gives me the Thumbs up lmfao.
David Murphy Well close, woke up and my money was missing... my girlfriend left a note “went shopping and salon” which means another funked up day!! Lmao.
+Joey Boulevard "cyclist lane". No. It's a shared traffic lane. Those bike symbols with the chevron arrows are called shared lane markers or sharrows. It means cyclists can (and should) use the full lane.
+Matt Dungrich : Your ignorance is showing. Using the full lane is safer. It's taught by Cycling Savvy, the League of American Bicyclists, Cyclecraft, Bicycling Street Smarts, Effective Cycling and others. It's the reason that sharrows exist. People who've studied bike safety actually know this. My own 6 figure mileage experience riding on the road since 1971 backs it up, as does that of millions of cyclists who've learned from the sources I mentioned above and adhered to what they learned. The real arrogant one here is you, as you pretend that you know more than all real bicycle safety experts about bike safety. You don't.
billdavidson6 The bottom line is going 20mph in a 35+ zone on a bike and taking a full lane because "real bicycle safety experts" say its better is stupid. Stop being arrogant, people drive cars to get places, cycling is just a glorified hobby, and all you do is hold up traffic and piss people off. If you want to ride a bike, be a man and do it in the mountains...
+Matt Dungrich : Again, the arrogant one here is you. You think you understand this issue, but you don't. What do you when it's a bus or a garbage truck or a tractor or a street sweeper or a cement truck going slow in front of you? Why can't you do the same for cyclists? Actually, I know why. It's because you think that the road is your territory and that you shouldn't have to share it with cyclists. The law, CVC 21200(a) says that they have as much right to the road as motorists do. It's just as easy to deal with them as that other traffic (usually easier, actually) but you don't accept that because you think you're entitled. Cyclists don't hold up traffic. I drive plenty and most of the time the worst I have to deal with is moving over to pass. I find this trivially easy but then I'm not a whiny self entitled child who feels entitled to not share the road. Grow up. Sharing the road is not the burden that you pretend. You don't own the road. Most people riding bikes on the road are commuting, just like everyone else.
literally ended up here after someone attempted to run me into a line of parked cars last night, bought myself a camera, sick of this bs here. The average scottish person drives like an audi driver anywhere else . . . dont get me started on scottish audi drivers
The DKW drivers are often assholes. Thats a fact. And they hate to be called DKW driver here in Europe, but in US probably no one know that they drive a DKW!! Auto Union AG (1932-1969) Audi NSU Auto Union AG (1969-1985) Audi AG (1985-present)
+ThumbsUpBrah : Cyclists have as much right to the road as motorists. It's the law, CVC 21200(a). How about you learn to share like a grown up? The driver violated CVC 21760, 21460, 27001, 23103, 22107 and 22108. Of course, laws don't apply to motorists do they?
+Rocket Ship 27 There is no bike lane on this road. Furthermore, there are markings on the road that explicitly state that bicycles are allowed to take the full lane. If you have a problem with cyclists, try to get the laws changed. Using a car to threaten people will always be illegal.
+Rocket Ship 27 CA law allows motorcycles to ride side by side (lane share) this likely applies to bicycles where it is legal for them to use traffic lanes. I don't like having to deal with bicycle traffic any more than the next guy but that's life. Gotta put on your big girl panties and deal with it.
+Rocket Ship 27 at 0:28 you can clearly see the sharrows painted on the road. They show that it is legal for bikes to take the full lane. There is no bike lane on this road. If you don't like our laws, try to get them changed. Using your car as a weapon will always be illegal.
+billdavidson6 How about you fucks go find a trail or path to ride on and stay out of the way or pay for a tag like everyone else does. You do nothing but impede traffic making drivers commutes more dangerous and stressful than they need to be.
+cccEngineer : It's intent to force a collision. That's assault. It's also willful disregard for the safety of persons or property which is the legal definition of reckless driving in California where this happened.
+cccEngineer it is fairly obvious to me the the driver intended to throw his car into the path of the cyclists and then break suddenly and force one or both of them to crash. I do not believe that you need to be a cyclist to see this.
+cccEngineer I can't believe how arrogant cyclists are, the first guy hits the car's mirror with his hand, then when the driver reacts and stops in front of him everyone is so sure the driver is intending to cause an accident. He couldn't possibly be hitting his breaks to get the cyclist who just hit his mirror to also slow down so he could confront him. Cyclists can't fathom the idea that something might cause them to stop.
+Matt Hoefler "billdavidson6" has already dealt with your BS above, I guess you keep arguing with people until they accept your BS, sorry troll, find a new bridge.
Oh my god, nothing even happened. The car is trying to get around them and not hit the oncoming car, and the guy with the camera on his bike hit is mirror on purpose. Then the car tries to get him to stop, and the typical cyclist reaction is believe they shouldn't have to slow down or get out of the way, but rather just start yelling, "WHOAH, WHOAH, WHAT ARE YOU DOIN." Cyclists just look for reasons to fight.
+Matt Hoefler : Your eyes apparently don't work. 1. He clearly honked, passed and brake checked the cyclists, swerving to the right as he did it in order to cause the cyclist to crash. 2. The cyclist didn't hit the mirror. 3. It's not safe to ride close to parked cars. Under CVC 21202(a)(3) they had the right to use the full lane. 4. There are sharrows on this road, indicating that cyclists can use the full lane. 5. The cyclists were doing 27mph in a 30mph zone. That's not exactly slow. You wouldn't be making these lame excuses if a motorist was doing 27 in a 30 and some idiot did this to them. It's just cyclists because you think you're too special and important to share the road with cyclists. 6. Crossing a double yellow is illegal. Honking for any purpose other than safe operation is illegal. Driving without due care is illegal. Driving with intent to endanger is reckless driving. 7. You should not be driving. It's beyond your capacity for understanding.
+billdavidson6 He does hit his mirror, that's why he pulls in front of him and break checks him. If you would spend 2 seconds googling what 'Break Check' means you'll see that the intention is not to cause an accident. However, to a cyclist who has a chip on his shoulder, I understand how it's the only thing that it could possibly mean. Also, if cyclists actually believe that it's not safe to ride close to parked cars.. verses moving cars... this is further proof cyclists are naturally selecting themselves out of the gene pool.
+Matt Hoefler I was originally going to call you blind and say that he didn't hit the mirror, but I realized it's the first guy (camera man) that did the mirror hitting after watching the clip a few times. I'm a cyclist, I commute around 24 miles/day in L.A. and i've seen guys hit car mirrors before and it NEVER ends well. It doesn't help, it's not "teaching the driver a lesson"; it's just pissing them off and making them do stuff like this. Personally, I think both parties are to blame in this case. The Audi guy is a dick for honking the way he did. Just pass and be on your way, no reason to be a douche... but the cyclist should be the better man and just ignore him instead of hitting the mirror. That said, it did look like the audi guy tried to run the first cyclist off the road, or brake check him into the parked cars. (and brake checking, might not have the intention of causing an accident, but it easily could with a bike that stops way slower than a car.) If it turns out to be the case that he did do that on purpose, then I think he should face some kind of punishment.
+bhop0073 : The cyclist didn't hit the mirror. The mirror might have hit the cyclist. At that speed you can't swing at stuff and stay upright. Any contact at all proves that the driver was passing closer than 3 feet, in violation of CVC 21760.
+Kai Tak : That justifies nearly killing them how exactly? I see motorists run stop signs all the time. Do you think it's justified to risk a collision with them or is it just cyclists because the rules of the road only apply to them and not you?
+Kai Tak "And all of this was over absolutely nothing. According to Ward, who has seen the full length video recording, the riders did nothing whatsoever to provoke Reed. The riders even stopped at a stop sign a few minutes before their unfortunate encounter with Reed." laist.com/2016/04/28/justice_delivered_almost.php
In the USA life must be so cheap, just about every comment on here should be classed as hate speech, all wanting to kill someone. I pity you. Ho and by the way, its work taxes that pay for roads, so cyclists, horse riders, motor cyclists, all pay for the roads, and have a right to be there.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean you are just protected from people getting pissed off because your slow ass was restricting the flow of traffic (which is a citable violation). Being right doesn't make you untouchable. Legal, maybe if you get over to allow faster traffic in non passing lanes such as this one or can travel above a speed that doesn't cause danger when someone cruises up on you at 15-20 mph difference of speed. It's kinda funny that everyone talks smack about statistics of people riding on the sidewalk being unsafer, yet I have seen dozens of videos of accidents with cyclists on the roadway compared to only a few that weren't on the road. I always see people say drivers aren't expecting cyclists to be moving at a high rate of speed on a sidwalk. No shit. They are however going to look for pedestrians though. The cyclist shouldn't be moving at a high rate of speed *anywhere* in that environment anyway. They could easily injure pedestrians walking across the road because they aren't looking for cyclists moving at a high rate of speed hidden behind a row of cars opposite of the sidewalk. Drivers coming out of driveways on streets lined with cars have nowhere near enough of a visual warning compared to the size of most cars while pulling out. So if you want to be safe and travel at a high rate of speed take your happy ass to a bike trail or closed/private roadway without as much traffic. You are putting yourselves in that dangerous situation. You don't *have* to ride *there* . The cyclists' stubborn selfishness is putting them in danger when they are slowing down traffic every one of those cars behind them has at least one maybe more people per car that they are pissing off. You are stupid for basically trolling people in vehicles that could easily kill you with a slight swerve. Road rage is real. People really need to quit pushing impractical, ideological, entitled, and egotistical disruptions in systems that have naturally evolved these ways for a reason. Back when there were less cars on the road, people were less distracted by electronics, and speed limits were lower, riding on the road may have been generally safer. It seems like tendencies towards violence alone these days should be enough for anyone with any common sense to find a better place to ride. Wether you have the legal right to be there or not you would think you would choose to ride somewhere safer than along side a bunch of 3 to 4 thousand pound pieces of moving steel that are controlled by old folks with limited reaction times, phone obsessed teens, large vehicles with large blind spots, late speeders, and plenty of regular drivers that are never expecting that car in front of them to swerve out of the way of a bike in the middle of the lane going 20mph slower than the speed limit. You act appalled at their comments but the cyclists have all the power in the world as to wether they can ride with almost zero chance of traffic accidents. They choose to not just find somewhere else to ride. How about some personal accountability for your own safety by making wiser decisions and not putting yourself in thst situation to begin with. Do you think George Floyd would be dead today if he wasn't committing home invasions and counterfeiting money? Don't give stupid people the ability to end your life by being stupid yourself. If Ahmaud Aubrey wouldn't have fought with a man holding a shotgun and just went with them to prove he had nothing to do with the robberies, he'd still be alive. Were those that killed them wrong? Of course they were. Would they have even had the chance to kill them had they made better decisions in life in floyd's case and in that moment in Aubrey's case? No. They wouldn't. Floyd would be scrapping together some meager living with a minimum wage job making legal money surviving paycheck to paycheck like the rest of us or maybe died naturally because he had the Rona. Aubrey would probably be settling out of court around now in a harrassment/emotional distress lawsuit.
I'd say this video starts conveniently at the point where the motorist expresses his/her anger. Perhaps for all we know you may have contributed to the issue much earlier on but not one video submitted by a cyclist reveals the full extent of the cause for rage
The DA saw the whole video and charged the driver. The DA also made a note had the cyclists instigated the driver earlier, the driver would have faced stiffer charges for the assault being pre-meditated.
See explanation from publisher. I would disagree with the DA. The DA appears to have cleared them but even if the cyclists had instigated this it does not give the driver the right to go after them in his car putting their health and lives at risk and potentially those of other road users.
@@ec7696 Totally agree with you. There is no excuse for any type of aggression or violence. My point was more towards how the use of phone videos are being used to represent a one sided view and render people GUILTY until proven innocent. Once the seed of guilt has been sown its rarely we see the full picture. Video vigilantes are aways the saints and have never ever done anything wrong to create the situation, fuel the situation or add fuel to the fire. Well not in any of their videos, they always find faults in others but editing hides a multitude of sins.
Unless they cut out the part where the cyclists attempted to assault the auto driver with a deadly weapon, I'm not sure what context could make any difference.
I will start off with i don't like cyclists! But both cars that passed in a residential doubled yellow line while oncoming traffic. Cyclists on the other hand came over slightly due to a parked car then the one recording had to swerve out since the car braked!
@Dr Diablory @Dr Diablory I don't like them because they don't follow the LAW. Stop signs nope, they pick and choose what to use bike lanes, road or sidewalk even though there is a bike lane! They literally took out the extra road lane to put in a bike lane here (which is fine if they used it). Used to be 4 lanes now just two road lanes and bikes still use the road... or how about they go the opposite direction in the bike lane there are arrows on the ground pointing for their direction. So yes they are in the wrong on a multitude of accounts. I am all for bikes, if they just followed the laws. But no one follows the law drivers, bikes or even pedestrians for the matter 🤦
@Dr Diablory You are closed minded like most drivers. If you actually read what I said I am on the side of the cyclist. What about road tax??? The point of a bike is a incentive to not to have another car on the road. Living near Portland thats all I see is cycling in city on the back roads, even on the freeway 🤦 there is no argument against following the rules this is why no side get along. I hate all sides equally. I own a car and bike. Next time talk dont shut out people.
@@liveness2006 all bike cities have more narrow roads, plus he was driving on a bike lane, not making one. also guess what direction the bike logo was in, right side up! half of your things are rants about people biking who aren't even apart of these videos, I saw a driver drive onto the sidewalk a few days ago, I'm not associating all drivers in that. so if you could explain the laws broken from driving in a bike lane in the right direction as well as moving out of the way from a vehicle I'd be very happy to listen to someone from a different place.
Actually, the car honked first. Not sure why the cammer then twitched out to the side, but that doesn't justify trying to run his buddy down with a 3,000lb vehicle.
@@AmtrakProductions ok so I googled the curb weight of an Audi A4 and you’re right it says 3700lb, but how fat do you think that cyclist is? Rider’s about 160lb with a 20lb bike.
@@lacyclist78 I was talking to the OP. I was trying to compare the weights so show how dumb it is that cyclists should have to be extra cautious to drivers.
@@AmtrakProductions Got it. Unfortunately, a cyclist can only do so much. You can’t do much about a car coming up behind you other than hope they are attentive and not planning to assault you.
@@Krazie316 Depending on the state or city, that may actually be legal. Looks like it's illegal in California, but eh. All that means is that the cyclists shouldn't have been passed at all in this situation. Drivers can wait for 30 seconds until the lane is wide enough to share, or a passing area comes up. Interestingly enough, take a look at the road at about 0:22, literally right after this driver pulled this stunt. Wide enough to share. Could have waited 5 seconds, but chose to swerve his vehicle at vulnerable road users instead. Sick.
@@crazyassailant They COULD have waited 30 seconds. People COULD wait 15 minutes also for a cluster of cyclists to get the hell out of the way and stop holding up traffic. All of these situations are neither here nor there concerning me not feeling remorseful that low speed @ss-holes got harassed by another@$$-hole though. I wouldn't do it myself, but all the same... There was a news segment dedicated to the arrogance of cyclists hogging the road and holding up traffic. It's somewhere on RUclips, loved it.
@@Krazie316 Because I don't know what hypothetical situation you're fixated on in your own imagination, I'll just stick to the reality of the facts in this clip. You support cars swerving at cyclists and think it's great fun. You think these cyclists are assholes for... being cyclists, I guess? For not being able to ride their bikes at 40+ mph? You sound like a reasonable individual capable of nuanced thought.
very suspicious how that other cyclist got all upset just for the camera to be on RUclips this defiantly looks staged I mean 1st off how would the other guy know he had a camera and therefore should get upset for RUclips
Cyclists do pay taxes. City roads like this one get most of their funding from general fund taxes that everyone pays. It's not our fault that you don't know how the roads get paid for. Grow up and learn to share. The LAW says that cyclist have a right to the road. It's easy to share. It's just that you're so childish and self entitled and territorial that you think you have some special greater right to the road. You don't. It's the LAW.
+billdavidson6 No, screw you dude, if I have to sit at the DMV for an hour and wait to pay for a tag then you douche bags should have to do the same. You do nothing but slow up traffic, create a hazard for everyone around you and yourself. You're a major liability. Not too mention you people constantly break traffic laws, such as running stop signs and jumping in front of traffic.
@@X3RUBIM limit should mean no bikes on any road with a speed limit over 25. Bikes are for kids on neighborhood streets. If you are not motorized with enough engine to keep up then stay out of the way. Should be a major ticket for impeding traffic. You want to use a toy for your transportation move to Sweden.
@@stevenbillings1620 By your sole opinion, It "should", but reality is not like you would like to so, meanwhile, just obey the traffic rules, that is the only thing YOU SHOULD DO.
Cyclists forced off road well trying to force car across two solid lines into oncoming traffic lol. the choice drive into traffic or force spandex weirdo of road. Driver made the right choice
Or you know that roads were originally built for bikes in the first place. Maybe not for North America but the paved road was a thing that really grew up with bikes and not cars
And like the bike isn't a toy the car would be more similar to a toy the fact that we have to have cars here in north America kills me I hate not being able to do all my commutes with the bikes and the train
@@andrewoldfield5285 Say it with me "It's a toy compared to 2,000 pound vehicles traveling at speeds 5 times faster on roadways"... unfortunately shared by you brain less wonders.
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Too many people here want to commit murder to save a few seconds of their day instead of waiting for a safe moment to pass.
+Anthony Lorenzo The anti-cyclists always love to display their internet bravado, but none of them would ever put their money with their mouths are in real life. They know they'd be in prison so fast it would make their heads spin. If not, they know exiting their vehicles to pick a fight would result in several broken ribs after getting kicked by the cyclist's horse legs.
@@JWFas Would they be using their keyboard as a weapon or a shield though?
Ride in the sidewalk you dickhead
@@JWFas They are scum
@@Ciridan That's actually more dangerous, and in many cities it's against the law as well.
Even if the cyclist's hand hit the mirror at 00:16 , the driver is at fault for the impact; it's a clear violation of the 3-ft law.
+Richard William Guilmette your comment is rude. Be civil.
Riding in the door zone at 27mph is not the best idea. To avoid getting doored and to reduce close passing use the full lane [ride in the middle/left of the oil slick] and you won't lead drivers to think that there is enough room in the lane to squeeze by you.
7FZL229 Audi A3 sedan. This should be submitted as evidence for wreckless driving and assault with a weapon. It's Glendale. A lot of jerk off drivers there with their piece of crap European luxury cars thinking that it means something to others.
This is Los Angeles KTLA TV news reporter Steve Kuzj. We would like to talk to one of the bikers in this video. We want to highlight the reckless actions of the car driver and remind everyone how to share the road with cyclists.
Please contact me ASAP. We want to show the story and video tonight, Monday, January 25th.
Please email: steve.kuzj@ktla.com
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+musa ahmed He probably isn't a troll. I've received the same requests from local news outlets for a couple of my videos.
I hope the driver is caught and charged. Sorry that this happened to you folks. Have a better day.
wow, so much negativity towards the cyclists here... So many misguided people
7FZL229 time for some street justice
Tell me this driver as been caught & prosecuted !
+bazk laist.com/2016/04/28/justice_delivered_almost.php
CA plate : 7FZL229
+Mark Merrill Yup!
Have the plates, have the video, where is the arrest report???
It amuses me the amount of comments not taking in consideration the traffic rules and really believe just what they think the road is for and how has to be used as an excuse to justify their own hate and complexes
00:27 sign on the road is clear!
To all those that say get on the sidewalk, the cutoff age for that is 12.
Well what's the cutoff age for someone trying to compensate with the vehicle they drive?
That was totally on purpose. Did you complain him / her to the police? You should definitely do! Dark Audi 7FZL229.
+snoopyPTS They should absolutely file a report. Inaction only leaves this jerk out on the streets, putting many other riders at risk of being attacked again.
+marquizzo In the process...
+Cycling Across LA did you get the news guy?
I live on Chevy Chase Dr. in Glendale and I can attest to crazy drivers always running off cyclists and driving into the opposite lane, etc. Glendale is full of insane drivers.
that's almost homicide
The odd part is the guy that was making an effort to cut into the side whenever possible for easier traffic passing almost got hit and not the guy maintaining the line. Though it looks like the entire road appears to be bike shared.
The more experienced and safer rider is in the back filming.
Notice that he doesn't ride in the door zone. People don't look before opening their doors after parking. Hiring a door at that speed is the same as getting hit by a car at that speed. This is why cyclists are taught to never ride in the door zone. Cyclists have died from it. They hit the door and can fall under the wheels of passing traffic.
Similarly, the more experienced rider in the back doesn't move over for a couple seconds when there are no parked cars. Instead he maintains his line. This is safer because passing cars won't give him room to re-enter traffic and he'll have to slam on the brakes or squeeze in a couple feet of space between parked cars and cars goin 40+ mph. This is why he didn't move over. Not to be rude but because it is the safe thing to do.
I believe that many drivers honestly are just unaware of why cyclists behave the way they do. It isn't to be rude but instead to be safe.
whoa!!!!
anyone who agrees with the motorist or criticises the cylist is a cylist hater pure and simple. there is no logical reason to blame the cyclist for anything, they were going in a perfect line and at a good speed.
cant believe some idiots on here saying the cyclists are to blame
+robinhood It's not the first time that it happened. There was a news about a bus driver revving and passing too closely.
A cyclist could be someone's son, daughter, mother, father, husband, or wife.
That's the whole problem with road cycling. Motorists don't tend to know the law on road cycling or know anything on cycling safety. The ignorance on cyclist haters amazes me.
+jjschepis3 That's why I think cycling training should be taken before driving. Proper infrastructure would help so much. Studies say that number one cause of a fatal collision for cyclists involving a motorized vehicle is being rear ended. With protected bike lanes, you don't have to keep checking if the car behind is going to give you one metre of clearance. I'd rather have a peaceful ride than share exciting stories of narrowly avoiding collisions. I was close to being rear ended on a quiet neighbourhood bikeway. Too bad I only got a front view. It makes me wonder if I should get a daytime running light that cars use. Cars use them on quiet roads too.
I've been searching like crazy for studies that show that the number one cause of fatal collisions for cyclists involve being rear-ended by motorists, but I've found the opposite to be true. It seems that being rear-ended on a bicycle is rather rare, which would make complete sense. Even at 15mph, a cyclists is allowing the increase of reaction time to the driver, which would help prevent rear-end collisions, and many cyclists filter forward because of the belief of "you need to ride on the far right side of the road." Dooring, right hooks, left crosses, and pull-outs are much higher on the list of fatal bicycle accidents.
However, because many states in the U.S. don't allow motorcyclists to filter forward, being rear-ended is a major cause of fatalities for motorcyclists. I support filtering for motorcyclists.
I think the driving test should be much more difficult than it is. I feel people should be able to get in and out of a skid, should show they can change their oil, tires, and light bulbs, and they should have to do things like ride a bicycle and drive a big rig just so they have respect for those that use those vehicles.
As others have said - you must report the reckless driving by 7FZL229. Motherfucking menace to society!
+SHA Dumb fuck the driver isn't gonna be fined or put in jail for doing that.
+Bradd1122 Wrong, Sparky. Intent is a large part of determining what degree of the law that the driver clearly broke. Evidence is all that is needed, and there is plenty. Warrants will be issued, so watch and learn.
+Bradd1122 He should face criminal charges. In PA where I live. It's a crime to force a cyclist off he road and you can face criminal charges for that.
Pontiac65Cat - Fuck off scumbag!
+Bradd1122 Like tigford said...watch and learn...especially the law. Looks like the guy is being charged. laist.com/2016/04/28/justice_delivered_almost.php
If the Street is a designated Green way then cyclist can bike on it...Drivers don't even look at clear road symbols indicating such
What a great way to get a mirror punched off! This driver is a genius!
What led up to this??
Cyclists are a downright menace and a burden to drivers.... Unnecessary too....
+Jolly Righteous in LA with all the fucking traffic that city has, bicyclists are very much neccessary, and they save you waiting time in traffic because they could have been in a car
+Jolly Righteous : Cars slow you down far more often and cost you far more time. It's just that ignorant self entitled children like you can't bear to share like an adult. It's not that difficult to share the road with cyclists for a grown up.
+Jolly Righteous If cyclists are such menaces, then why do the stats year in and year out show that automobiles kill far more people?
+Jolly Righteous If you live anywhere near Los Angeles, you spend dozens of hours sitting in car-traffic every year. I think it's hilarious when a single bicycle is enough to make you freak out and blame all traffic on that one person.
Look around you. Every freeway is clogged with cars. Every intersection forces you to stop to wait for other cars. It isn't that one guy on a bike who is slowing you down. It's other people like YOU. People in cars. You car drivers are a downright menace and burden to cyclists.
Unlike drivers, no-one depends on cyclists for basic needs... In fact if it were not for drivers, the economy would collapse over-night and we would begin to die in large numbers from lack of basics like, food, water, heat, medicine, healthcare and so on. So drivers keep far more alive than they kill and are not the enemies of the State that anti drivers claim.
That would've been water bottle right to the windshield if that were me riding. And if they stop, we're brawling.
+Emmanuel Foret would have been a D-lock in the windscreen from me...
I have a Hiplok as well, makes a very effective flail...
I enjoy the evidence gathering video system on my bike. I'm glad this rider had one, too. I'd love to see the driver's face when he sees his car on the news, and then later when he realizes there is a warrant for his arrest.
+Tigford Whats the name of your camers?
+MrCrocodog
I have a Cycliq. I love it. It records 720p in 10 minute increments, saves a file, then starts another. When it runs out of room on the memory (micro SD) it overwrites the older files. The rear-mounted camera has flashing red lights, is USB charged and only costs $160. I'll be getting their forward-mounted camera once it starts shipping.
make the private car so expensive to run that thick plebs will be cleared from the highways and onto public transport where they belong
keep on feeling sorry for cyclists in the US.
did you report it (driver)? I would
+bonn1771 I reported the driver.
+naomi chambers You really think you reporting the driver is gonna do a damn thing? That would be like you reporting someone cutting someone off.
+Bradd1122 Actually in many places reporting the person driving the car does do a lot. In some cases they will track the person down and cite them. But even at times where it seems like there is no action, there is a report and therefore a record of the incident in case the driver does it to other people.
Gunnar Soroos What exactly did the driver of that car do wrong? The driver of that car sped around the cyclist like other cars were doing then hit the brakes, the cyclist should have been slowing down as a car sped in front of them the cyclist then scream woah multiple times as if the driver of the car has done something wrong.
In many locations stopping your car with the intent to cause an accident is against the law, as well as using your car in an aggressive manner to intimidate another person. Also passing too close in an unsafe manner.
It doesn't make sense that someone should be slowing down for someone speeding around them. But no matter, the cyclists were able to avoid the car without crashing. There's no law against exclaiming whoa when you are surprised even if you believe that the person driving the car didn't do anything wrong.
From looking at these comments, there are so many tossers out there that cycling is too dangerous. More cycle paths are needed that are nowhere near the loonies in cars.
That's why I keep my U lock in arms reach, I hope your insurance pays for a shattered window!
Gus W , How about having the handcuffs slapped on you.
Kenith McIntosh Because you’re going to be able to peddle away without someone like me running you over? Go back to smelling your own farts biker boy.
@@brew1234567891 farts joked mean you are superior lol, you owned that cyclist lol with your facts and logic😂 liberals owned
That's smart. Breakout a window of someone that could kill you with a swerve.
I wear a custom t-shirt when doing 40 km time trials on the roads " 14 kg bike - EPO Free" and a picture of a Koala . Every car that passes me gives me the Thumbs up lmfao.
And then you woke up
David Murphy Well close, woke up and my money was missing... my girlfriend left a note “went shopping and salon” which means another funked up day!!
Lmao.
There's a clear image of cyclist lane posted on the road. Seemed like a personal problem.
+Joey Boulevard "cyclist lane". No. It's a shared traffic lane. Those bike symbols with the chevron arrows are called shared lane markers or sharrows. It means cyclists can (and should) use the full lane.
+Matt Dungrich your lack of charity empowers people to accept man slaughter as an acceptable risk.
+Matt Dungrich : Your ignorance is showing. Using the full lane is safer. It's taught by Cycling Savvy, the League of American Bicyclists, Cyclecraft, Bicycling Street Smarts, Effective Cycling and others. It's the reason that sharrows exist. People who've studied bike safety actually know this. My own 6 figure mileage experience riding on the road since 1971 backs it up, as does that of millions of cyclists who've learned from the sources I mentioned above and adhered to what they learned.
The real arrogant one here is you, as you pretend that you know more than all real bicycle safety experts about bike safety. You don't.
billdavidson6
The bottom line is going 20mph in a 35+ zone on a bike and taking a full lane because "real bicycle safety experts" say its better is stupid. Stop being arrogant, people drive cars to get places, cycling is just a glorified hobby, and all you do is hold up traffic and piss people off.
If you want to ride a bike, be a man and do it in the mountains...
+Matt Dungrich : Again, the arrogant one here is you. You think you understand this issue, but you don't.
What do you when it's a bus or a garbage truck or a tractor or a street sweeper or a cement truck going slow in front of you? Why can't you do the same for cyclists? Actually, I know why. It's because you think that the road is your territory and that you shouldn't have to share it with cyclists. The law, CVC 21200(a) says that they have as much right to the road as motorists do. It's just as easy to deal with them as that other traffic (usually easier, actually) but you don't accept that because you think you're entitled.
Cyclists don't hold up traffic. I drive plenty and most of the time the worst I have to deal with is moving over to pass. I find this trivially easy but then I'm not a whiny self entitled child who feels entitled to not share the road. Grow up. Sharing the road is not the burden that you pretend. You don't own the road.
Most people riding bikes on the road are commuting, just like everyone else.
The video looks nice Seems2 rifle selection What do you think, guyx... !
Dark grey Audi A3 sedanMake a report to the police, to protect other cyclists. They will do it again.
literally ended up here after someone attempted to run me into a line of parked cars last night, bought myself a camera, sick of this bs here. The average scottish person drives like an audi driver anywhere else . . . dont get me started on scottish audi drivers
Now I wonder what make of car this will be ? Wait for it, wait for it, as yes the 4 rings that announce the arrival of a moron.
The DKW drivers are often assholes. Thats a fact. And they hate to be called DKW driver here in Europe, but in US probably no one know that they drive a DKW!!
Auto Union AG (1932-1969)
Audi NSU Auto Union AG (1969-1985)
Audi AG (1985-present)
When you see the four rings you’re supposed to move!
Many Automobile drivers are out of their minds, they suffer from way too much of a whole lot of evil.
Guy fd his buddy by being too far left
Wow you boys are cruising fast. Why not stop that Audi and take a few shots at him
Audi, what else. Could have been a BMW driver...
good stay off the road.. nice outfit too!
+ThumbsUpBrah : Cyclists have as much right to the road as motorists. It's the law, CVC 21200(a). How about you learn to share like a grown up?
The driver violated CVC 21760, 21460, 27001, 23103, 22107 and 22108. Of course, laws don't apply to motorists do they?
+Rocket Ship 27 There is no bike lane on this road. Furthermore, there are markings on the road that explicitly state that bicycles are allowed to take the full lane.
If you have a problem with cyclists, try to get the laws changed. Using a car to threaten people will always be illegal.
+Rocket Ship 27 CA law allows motorcycles to ride side by side (lane share) this likely applies to bicycles where it is legal for them to use traffic lanes. I don't like having to deal with bicycle traffic any more than the next guy but that's life. Gotta put on your big girl panties and deal with it.
+Rocket Ship 27 at 0:28 you can clearly see the sharrows painted on the road. They show that it is legal for bikes to take the full lane. There is no bike lane on this road. If you don't like our laws, try to get them changed. Using your car as a weapon will always be illegal.
+billdavidson6 How about you fucks go find a trail or path to ride on and stay out of the way or pay for a tag like everyone else does. You do nothing but impede traffic making drivers commutes more dangerous and stressful than they need to be.
It's a DKW driver.... what to expect🤔
WTF
Am I missing something? I just saw the driver brake? How is that enough to claim assault?
its intent
+cccEngineer : It's intent to force a collision. That's assault. It's also willful disregard for the safety of persons or property which is the legal definition of reckless driving in California where this happened.
+cccEngineer it is fairly obvious to me the the driver intended to throw his car into the path of the cyclists and then break suddenly and force one or both of them to crash. I do not believe that you need to be a cyclist to see this.
+cccEngineer
I can't believe how arrogant cyclists are, the first guy hits the car's mirror with his hand, then when the driver reacts and stops in front of him everyone is so sure the driver is intending to cause an accident. He couldn't possibly be hitting his breaks to get the cyclist who just hit his mirror to also slow down so he could confront him. Cyclists can't fathom the idea that something might cause them to stop.
+Matt Hoefler "billdavidson6" has already dealt with your BS above, I guess you keep arguing with people until they accept your BS, sorry troll, find a new bridge.
Oh my god, nothing even happened. The car is trying to get around them and not hit the oncoming car, and the guy with the camera on his bike hit is mirror on purpose. Then the car tries to get him to stop, and the typical cyclist reaction is believe they shouldn't have to slow down or get out of the way, but rather just start yelling, "WHOAH, WHOAH, WHAT ARE YOU DOIN." Cyclists just look for reasons to fight.
+Matt Hoefler ever heard of brake checking?
+Matt Hoefler : Your eyes apparently don't work.
1. He clearly honked, passed and brake checked the cyclists, swerving to the right as he did it in order to cause the cyclist to crash.
2. The cyclist didn't hit the mirror.
3. It's not safe to ride close to parked cars. Under CVC 21202(a)(3) they had the right to use the full lane.
4. There are sharrows on this road, indicating that cyclists can use the full lane.
5. The cyclists were doing 27mph in a 30mph zone. That's not exactly slow. You wouldn't be making these lame excuses if a motorist was doing 27 in a 30 and some idiot did this to them. It's just cyclists because you think you're too special and important to share the road with cyclists.
6. Crossing a double yellow is illegal. Honking for any purpose other than safe operation is illegal. Driving without due care is illegal. Driving with intent to endanger is reckless driving.
7. You should not be driving. It's beyond your capacity for understanding.
+billdavidson6 He does hit his mirror, that's why he pulls in front of him and break checks him. If you would spend 2 seconds googling what 'Break Check' means you'll see that the intention is not to cause an accident. However, to a cyclist who has a chip on his shoulder, I understand how it's the only thing that it could possibly mean.
Also, if cyclists actually believe that it's not safe to ride close to parked cars.. verses moving cars... this is further proof cyclists are naturally selecting themselves out of the gene pool.
+Matt Hoefler I was originally going to call you blind and say that he didn't hit the mirror, but I realized it's the first guy (camera man) that did the mirror hitting after watching the clip a few times.
I'm a cyclist, I commute around 24 miles/day in L.A. and i've seen guys hit car mirrors before and it NEVER ends well. It doesn't help, it's not "teaching the driver a lesson"; it's just pissing them off and making them do stuff like this.
Personally, I think both parties are to blame in this case. The Audi guy is a dick for honking the way he did. Just pass and be on your way, no reason to be a douche... but the cyclist should be the better man and just ignore him instead of hitting the mirror. That said, it did look like the audi guy tried to run the first cyclist off the road, or brake check him into the parked cars. (and brake checking, might not have the intention of causing an accident, but it easily could with a bike that stops way slower than a car.) If it turns out to be the case that he did do that on purpose, then I think he should face some kind of punishment.
+bhop0073 : The cyclist didn't hit the mirror. The mirror might have hit the cyclist. At that speed you can't swing at stuff and stay upright. Any contact at all proves that the driver was passing closer than 3 feet, in violation of CVC 21760.
Audi drivers are the same the world over.
The struggle is real lol
Looking down the list of comments I see they are well down to their usual level of bigoted intolerance.
Maybe the cyclist did not stop at a stop sign...
+Kai Tak : That justifies nearly killing them how exactly? I see motorists run stop signs all the time. Do you think it's justified to risk a collision with them or is it just cyclists because the rules of the road only apply to them and not you?
+Kai Tak Vigiliantism is illegal...
+Kai Tak
It IS in Glendale, so the likelihood that the driver also ran a stop sign is pretty good.
+Kai Tak "And all of this was over absolutely nothing. According to Ward, who has seen the full length video recording, the riders did nothing whatsoever to provoke Reed. The riders even stopped at a stop sign a few minutes before their unfortunate encounter with Reed."
laist.com/2016/04/28/justice_delivered_almost.php
Criminal.
I mean if you have room to move over some you could also do that. “Share the road” goes both ways.
it was a bicycle lane???
Cyclist did absolutely nothing wrong.
What led up to this? Who gives a damn?
You're A-OK! ! stitch dry What's your opinion about that,"guys !
Nice!
In the USA life must be so cheap, just about every comment on here should be classed as hate speech, all wanting to kill someone. I pity you. Ho and by the way, its work taxes that pay for roads, so cyclists, horse riders, motor cyclists, all pay for the roads, and have a right to be there.
Having the right to do something doesn't mean you are just protected from people getting pissed off because your slow ass was restricting the flow of traffic (which is a citable violation). Being right doesn't make you untouchable. Legal, maybe if you get over to allow faster traffic in non passing lanes such as this one or can travel above a speed that doesn't cause danger when someone cruises up on you at 15-20 mph difference of speed. It's kinda funny that everyone talks smack about statistics of people riding on the sidewalk being unsafer, yet I have seen dozens of videos of accidents with cyclists on the roadway compared to only a few that weren't on the road.
I always see people say drivers aren't expecting cyclists to be moving at a high rate of speed on a sidwalk. No shit. They are however going to look for pedestrians though. The cyclist shouldn't be moving at a high rate of speed *anywhere* in that environment anyway. They could easily injure pedestrians walking across the road because they aren't looking for cyclists moving at a high rate of speed hidden behind a row of cars opposite of the sidewalk. Drivers coming out of driveways on streets lined with cars have nowhere near enough of a visual warning compared to the size of most cars while pulling out. So if you want to be safe and travel at a high rate of speed take your happy ass to a bike trail or closed/private roadway without as much traffic. You are putting yourselves in that dangerous situation. You don't *have* to ride *there* . The cyclists' stubborn selfishness is putting them in danger when they are slowing down traffic every one of those cars behind them has at least one maybe more people per car that they are pissing off. You are stupid for basically trolling people in vehicles that could easily kill you with a slight swerve. Road rage is real.
People really need to quit pushing impractical, ideological, entitled, and egotistical disruptions in systems that have naturally evolved these ways for a reason. Back when there were less cars on the road, people were less distracted by electronics, and speed limits were lower, riding on the road may have been generally safer. It seems like tendencies towards violence alone these days should be enough for anyone with any common sense to find a better place to ride. Wether you have the legal right to be there or not you would think you would choose to ride somewhere safer than along side a bunch of 3 to 4 thousand pound pieces of moving steel that are controlled by old folks with limited reaction times, phone obsessed teens, large vehicles with large blind spots, late speeders, and plenty of regular drivers that are never expecting that car in front of them to swerve out of the way of a bike in the middle of the lane going 20mph slower than the speed limit.
You act appalled at their comments but the cyclists have all the power in the world as to wether they can ride with almost zero chance of traffic accidents. They choose to not just find somewhere else to ride. How about some personal accountability for your own safety by making wiser decisions and not putting yourself in thst situation to begin with.
Do you think George Floyd would be dead today if he wasn't committing home invasions and counterfeiting money? Don't give stupid people the ability to end your life by being stupid yourself. If Ahmaud Aubrey wouldn't have fought with a man holding a shotgun and just went with them to prove he had nothing to do with the robberies, he'd still be alive. Were those that killed them wrong? Of course they were. Would they have even had the chance to kill them had they made better decisions in life in floyd's case and in that moment in Aubrey's case? No. They wouldn't. Floyd would be scrapping together some meager living with a minimum wage job making legal money surviving paycheck to paycheck like the rest of us or maybe died naturally because he had the Rona. Aubrey would probably be settling out of court around now in a harrassment/emotional distress lawsuit.
Ashae
I'd say this video starts conveniently at the point where the motorist expresses his/her anger. Perhaps for all we know you may have contributed to the issue much earlier on but not one video submitted by a cyclist reveals the full extent of the cause for rage
The DA saw the whole video and charged the driver. The DA also made a note had the cyclists instigated the driver earlier, the driver would have faced stiffer charges for the assault being pre-meditated.
See explanation from publisher. I would disagree with the DA. The DA appears to have cleared them but even if the cyclists had instigated this it does not give the driver the right to go after them in his car putting their health and lives at risk and potentially those of other road users.
@@ec7696 Totally agree with you. There is no excuse for any type of aggression or violence. My point was more towards how the use of phone videos are being used to represent a one sided view and render people GUILTY until proven innocent. Once the seed of guilt has been sown its rarely we see the full picture.
Video vigilantes are aways the saints and have never ever done anything wrong to create the situation, fuel the situation or add fuel to the fire. Well not in any of their videos, they always find faults in others but editing hides a multitude of sins.
Unless they cut out the part where the cyclists attempted to assault the auto driver with a deadly weapon, I'm not sure what context could make any difference.
@@yusafkhan9347 You are responsible fro your actions. If someone does something to make you angry you have to control yourself.
You're driving down the middle of the road...
+MrBMAC4000 hahaha its that ILEGAL?
That's where they're suppose to be.
Literally riding exactly on top of a bicycle-road sign at the moment of the incident
Ran
Drivers hate arrogant cyclists.
Cyclists hate arrogant drivers just as much. But rarely you see a cyclist threatening a driver's life.
I will start off with i don't like cyclists! But both cars that passed in a residential doubled yellow line while oncoming traffic. Cyclists on the other hand came over slightly due to a parked car then the one recording had to swerve out since the car braked!
@Dr Diablory @Dr Diablory I don't like them because they don't follow the LAW. Stop signs nope, they pick and choose what to use bike lanes, road or sidewalk even though there is a bike lane! They literally took out the extra road lane to put in a bike lane here (which is fine if they used it). Used to be 4 lanes now just two road lanes and bikes still use the road... or how about they go the opposite direction in the bike lane there are arrows on the ground pointing for their direction. So yes they are in the wrong on a multitude of accounts. I am all for bikes, if they just followed the laws. But no one follows the law drivers, bikes or even pedestrians for the matter 🤦
@Dr Diablory You are closed minded like most drivers. If you actually read what I said I am on the side of the cyclist. What about road tax??? The point of a bike is a incentive to not to have another car on the road. Living near Portland thats all I see is cycling in city on the back roads, even on the freeway 🤦 there is no argument against following the rules this is why no side get along. I hate all sides equally. I own a car and bike. Next time talk dont shut out people.
@@liveness2006 some have yield signs where where cars have to stop bikes dont have to
@@liveness2006 all bike cities have more narrow roads, plus he was driving on a bike lane, not making one. also guess what direction the bike logo was in, right side up! half of your things are rants about people biking who aren't even apart of these videos, I saw a driver drive onto the sidewalk a few days ago, I'm not associating all drivers in that. so if you could explain the laws broken from driving in a bike lane in the right direction as well as moving out of the way from a vehicle I'd be very happy to listen to someone from a different place.
Cyclists shouldn’t ride on the sidewalk because they could crash into pedestrians, but cyclists on the road now that’s real safe 😂 *sarcasm*
how did the other guy know you had a camera? you can hea he sounds like he got upset? very suspicious Well until you realize a camera is recording
The cyclist recording swang out towards the car first. Some cyclists need to learn to be considerate to car drivers and pedestrians.
Actually, the car honked first. Not sure why the cammer then twitched out to the side, but that doesn't justify trying to run his buddy down with a 3,000lb vehicle.
you high? The car is 4000 pounds, the bike is 170 ish?.
@@AmtrakProductions ok so I googled the curb weight of an Audi A4 and you’re right it says 3700lb, but how fat do you think that cyclist is? Rider’s about 160lb with a 20lb bike.
@@lacyclist78 I was talking to the OP. I was trying to compare the weights so show how dumb it is that cyclists should have to be extra cautious to drivers.
@@AmtrakProductions Got it. Unfortunately, a cyclist can only do so much. You can’t do much about a car coming up behind you other than hope they are attentive and not planning to assault you.
As it should be
find a bike trail...
Find a freeway.
Those extra dots you added the second time you commented this really helped
i hate cyclists almost more than anything on the road this video made me chuckle lol
There is medication for what you have
I kick car doors when they pass too close
You should learn too ride one. It might change your mind.
I have no remorse for @$$hole bicyclists that hold up traffic...
Did you see that car at about :12 seconds that passed them, without trying to murder them? Like a functioning member of society?
@@crazyassailant You mean the car that passed illegally :-) .
@@Krazie316 Depending on the state or city, that may actually be legal. Looks like it's illegal in California, but eh.
All that means is that the cyclists shouldn't have been passed at all in this situation. Drivers can wait for 30 seconds until the lane is wide enough to share, or a passing area comes up. Interestingly enough, take a look at the road at about 0:22, literally right after this driver pulled this stunt. Wide enough to share. Could have waited 5 seconds, but chose to swerve his vehicle at vulnerable road users instead. Sick.
@@crazyassailant They COULD have waited 30 seconds. People COULD wait 15 minutes also for a cluster of cyclists to get the hell out of the way and stop holding up traffic. All of these situations are neither here nor there concerning me not feeling remorseful that low speed @ss-holes got harassed by another@$$-hole though. I wouldn't do it myself, but all the same...
There was a news segment dedicated to the arrogance of cyclists hogging the road and holding up traffic. It's somewhere on RUclips, loved it.
@@Krazie316 Because I don't know what hypothetical situation you're fixated on in your own imagination, I'll just stick to the reality of the facts in this clip. You support cars swerving at cyclists and think it's great fun. You think these cyclists are assholes for... being cyclists, I guess? For not being able to ride their bikes at 40+ mph?
You sound like a reasonable individual capable of nuanced thought.
Queens on a bike. Use the sidwalk, queenbo
That's illegal
Pathetic and childish comment
no bike lane means *only* sidewalk is legal
"ac3491" = princess keyboard warrioress....
....only in yur dreams, princess....
very suspicious how that other cyclist got all upset just for the camera to be on RUclips this defiantly looks staged I mean 1st off how would the other guy know he had a camera and therefore should get upset for RUclips
The sidewalk is for bicycles, no sidewalk they are allowed to the far right not the middle of the road.
From what I could see they WERE keeping as far right as they safely should you dumb fuck.
The sideWALK is for pedestrians, not bikes.
See No Bicycle Riding On The Sidewalk
Bicycles are not supposed to ride on the sidewalk and have the right to take up the entire lane when they deem it safest. Read the traffic laws.
@0:28 in the video
find a bike trail
Learn to share like an adult.
+billdavidson6 Pay taxes and get a tag like a car does to drive on the road...
Cyclists do pay taxes. City roads like this one get most of their funding from general fund taxes that everyone pays. It's not our fault that you don't know how the roads get paid for.
Grow up and learn to share. The LAW says that cyclist have a right to the road. It's easy to share. It's just that you're so childish and self entitled and territorial that you think you have some special greater right to the road. You don't. It's the LAW.
+billdavidson6 No, screw you dude, if I have to sit at the DMV for an hour and wait to pay for a tag then you douche bags should have to do the same. You do nothing but slow up traffic, create a hazard for everyone around you and yourself. You're a major liability. Not too mention you people constantly break traffic laws, such as running stop signs and jumping in front of traffic.
+billdavidson6. They pave bike trails for a reason, if you want to feel and be safe you should go hit one of those up....
Cyclists should not be allowed on any roadway that they can't maintain the speed limit.
You seem to be confused the "limit" part refers to the maximum legal speed, not the minimum.
You dont understand what a limit is, do you?
@@X3RUBIM limit should mean no bikes on any road with a speed limit over 25. Bikes are for kids on neighborhood streets. If you are not motorized with enough engine to keep up then stay out of the way. Should be a major ticket for impeding traffic. You want to use a toy for your transportation move to Sweden.
@@stevenbillings1620 They literally have markings on that road permitting bikes.
@@stevenbillings1620 By your sole opinion, It "should", but reality is not like you would like to so, meanwhile, just obey the traffic rules, that is the only thing YOU SHOULD DO.
Cyclists forced off road well trying to force car across two solid lines into oncoming traffic lol. the choice drive into traffic or force spandex weirdo of road. Driver made the right choice
You're an idiot. He should have slowed down and waited till it's safe to pass. That the law
The driver caused the lead cyclist to nearly slam full force into a parked car which would've caused serious injuries.
...or the third option: wait patiently until it's safe to pass.
Cyclists have priority. You sound fangerous.
Riding 20 pound toys in vehicular traffic consisting of 2,000 to 80,000 pound vehicles you're dealing with the smartest people on the planet.
I guess you missed the dedicated cycle markings on the road then.
Or you know that roads were originally built for bikes in the first place. Maybe not for North America but the paved road was a thing that really grew up with bikes and not cars
And like the bike isn't a toy the car would be more similar to a toy the fact that we have to have cars here in north America kills me I hate not being able to do all my commutes with the bikes and the train
@@andrewoldfield5285 Say it with me "It's a toy compared to 2,000 pound vehicles traveling at speeds 5 times faster on roadways"... unfortunately shared by you brain less wonders.
@@billB101 99.9999999999999 percent of roadways aren't in your fragile precious bubble socialized cities.
All I see here is a cyclist swerving slightly when a car passes, the driver stop because of the surprise and then goes on his way
Guy Schel if you are that ignorant you should turn in your drivers license and get a pedal car. You are obviously a menace to fellow trafficers.