Comparing the 2024 Subaru Forester to the 2025 Subaru Forester: Which is Better?
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- Опубликовано: 27 май 2024
- Today we're comparing the 2024 Subaru Forester to the 2025 Subaru Forester, to determine which one you should buy. Each have their own benefits and it's important to know the details to see which one is most suitable for yourself.
We're going to compare the price, features, and the availability of the 2024 Subaru Forester compared to the 2025 Subaru Forester.
Comment below with any questions you have!
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My wife and I just put a deposit down last week on a 2024 Forester Premium that our local dealer has in transit . They are discounting the 24's and selling them at invoice. We added the accessories that we wanted to the 2024 and spec'd out a 2025. The difference in price was a little over $5100.00. I simply can not justify the difference for a new body style, 1 or 2 cu ft of cargo space and a bigger infotainment screen.
You should have just gotten a Mazda and had a much better built and more reliable vehicle lol.
I just got my model for $49k CAD all in for the limited model with a few accessories. Very happy with
@@AP-st1li We looked at the Mazda, but we did not like the way the center screen was designed. It looked like someone forgot to put one in the design and said, "Oh well, I guess we'll just plop it on top of the dash".
@@AP-st1li I had a 2019 Mazda CX-5 and 2020 Mazda 3. Both were terrible on gas and the “leather” seats wore terribly, with less than 50k miles. Not quality if you ask me. I’m now driving a Subaru🎉
Congratulations! I have the Ascent and just love it. However, Subaru sells everything pretty much at Invoice.
Outstanding Video 😊
Thank you!
I loved your comparison. It's clear ! Thanks
Glad it was helpful!
As always, EXCELLENT information from Alex. Thank you.
that was a wonderful video Alex, thank you 👍
Picking up my '24 Forester Premium tomorrow... I took one look at the '25 renders months ago and knew absolutely I could NOT accept the new look. The screen is a sacrifice that I'm willing to make
And you get the better pricing on the 24! It’s a win!
Thanks, good video. I prefer the look of my 23 sport plus prefer buttons on my 8 inch screen. Get the 24 while you can!
What the Forester needs is more power, especially when carrying a full load. I hope the upcoming hybrid will add that.
One of my biggest complaints about my 2024 Outback Onyx XT is the backup camera. Even though the screen is huge, the camera only uses a small part of it, and the resolution is terrible. Do you know if this is improved on the new Forester?
Really enjoy your videos. Very informative and thorough.
I have to say I am not a fan of the electronic controls for basic functions such as temperature, fan, etc. When you are driving, you can adjust the manual controls without taking your eyes off the road. With the electronic display, you have to look. Driving while looking at the screen is very dangerous.
One good reason to go with a 24!
I just purchased a new 2024 Forester Sport 5 days ago. I like that getting a 24 now means the bugs are worked out of that generation. Ill never buy a first year run of any model. I also like having some real knobs and buttons instead of that touch screening of everything. I can replace a worn out knob but you cant replace a slow touchscreen. This is my first Subaru and I love it. Ive bought 27 cars and trucks in my life and currently own 4 vehicles and this one is my favorite so far. Wish I had tried Subaru years ago.
Happy to hear you’re enjoying your 2024! There are certainly benefits to getting the tried true model
I have a 22 sport and love it! My favorite part is the panoramic sunroof. Does the 2025 have the same sunroof?
Honestly, the new design is just a modest change in design from the current 2019-2024 models. From the title of this video, I thought he was focusing on what’s new in 2024 vs previous years, not just a sales pitch. I wonder if Subaru has any designers??
Hello can you do a upgrade HK speaker test vs the non upgraded ones
Good information Alex…..might get the 2025 outback…..waiting for a comparison of that. Thanks. ❤️🌵
You’re welcome! 2025 Outback should be identical to 2024 but I’ll be making a video once they arrive!
I got my 2024 Forester Wilderness in January, and I love it. I just got the window deflectors put on a couple of weeks ago. I pretty much have everything else on it. Thanks to a lot of your videos. Keep'em coming! I watch all of them.
i have a 2024 forester spot, i didnt really like the copper or the front end of hte 25s so was happy to go with this and got a good deal on it :) but my question is with the auto headlight system, is there a way to flash highbeams for reasons >.>
Good info, Im getting the wilderness and am glad they are the same ❤
Does the 25 have the same front passanger leg room? Is the rest of the measurement the same? Cargo back seat etc.
Nice job Alex. You did, however, fail to mention that the 25 Forester also has the option for ventilated front seats.
True! I always forget about that one
I bought the 2024 Subaru Forrester touring with the saddle brown seats and I love it! I don’t like the redesign on the 2025 exterior or the larger display screen.
Tomorrow will be 3 weeks for my 2024 Magnetite Grey Forester Touring with saddle brown interior and I too, love it!
@@captainslow4436crazy got the same color about 3 weeks ago as well. It’s a joy to sit and look at.
Love my Crosstrek Wilderness but not as happy about towing a trailer when the car has only flat 4-pin wiring, i.e. no trailer brake 7-pin. The Wilderness is rated for 3,500 pounds but the car weighs 3,417 pounds. It's not wise to tow anything more than 2,300 lbs. but even then having a trailer brake option would make things a lot safer. Subaru doesn't offer OEM upgrade to 7-pin which is odd, especially if Subaru customer safety is a priority. Promoting 3,500 pound towing but no trailer brake option -- not good.
Does the 2025 have the pin code lock system on all models?
Only if they get rid of start/stop
My 2024 Forester Limited with option package #32 has the Start/Stop disable button. I just took delivery a week ago, thrilled, nice ride :O)
Software changes have moved the Start/Stop disable button to the front screen for all Gen 6 Outbacks, so I would be surprised if this also didn't apply to the Foresters with the 11.6" infotainment systems.. see 4:30.
Just touch the icon after starting your engine to deactivate it. If you need it in some situations do not deactivate it....I have absolutely no prob with auto start/stop feature.
Indeed! Or at least make it so you don’t have to turn it off every time you start the car up. My first thought was the wear and tear on the starter but I also read an article that certain mechanics are saying that the start/stop feature on any cat cuts the engine life in half. I’m almost in the habit of turning it off every time but I’m about ready to put a posty note on the steering wheel so I don’t ever forget again.
@@Fiereflye Yep, with gas prices below $3/gal I will change my habit and run the engine on red light.
I had a 2024 Forester loaner while my Outback was in for service, and there were two things off the bat I did not like. First, when I was on the highway and I was going to change lanes on the right, when I turn my head slightly, it always looked like somebody was at my rear quarter, but what it was was the small window in the back right then made it look like that and that kind of freaked me out every time. I suppose that's something I would get used to over time. The other thing, the wired Android auto, kept disconnecting and it was the most annoying freaking thing. My 2023 Outback touring XT, has some weird connectivity issues with wireless Android auto. Sometimes I have to plug it in to make it work properly. It also sometimes just disconnects itself.
You’re 100% right. It took me about a month to get use to.
Just upgraded my 2021 Base model Forester to a 2024 Limited. I definitely prefer the old analog controls and in Southern California Subaru is offering 1.9% APR on the outgoing Forester.
5:24 thank you for this information, I hope they add heated steering wheel for 2025 wilderness model in US.
I have a 2024 Outback and having a terrible time keeping my iPhone 11 connected to the infotainment system. I have had to pair it several times. Any ideas what to do….Everything is updated and rebooted.
Alex, are there any whispers as to how long until the ‘25 Wilderness might be available? Or should I say, the new body-style Wilderness?
Can you get a 2.9% rate on a 2024 Forester Wilderness for the month of May?
Have 24 Wilderness. Screen says "turn by turn not available in projection mode" . What does that mean and how can I get phone/screen to appear the same. I'm very confused...
Waiting to see if the Hybrid helps with get up and go. On general, I love my Touring XT Outback because of the 2.4l Turbo. The 2.5l in my 2015 was too pokey. I really want a Panoramic Roof. The Ascent is just too thirsty. If they let use order it without the 3rd Row (saving all that weight and goosing the economy up, I would have bought it.
The new Forester looks great. Just need to know if the Hybrid will finally make it able to pass (with real passing power) on a country road. Something the 2.4l Turbo is amazing at!
Love your videos. Just purchased a 2024 forester. My back passenger windows don't roll down completely. Is. This normal for this model? Or does it need repairs?
It's normal for Forester. Go with CrossTrek. Even in base model all four windows roll down completely. CrossTrek is better equipped, has more modern look and is less expensive.
It's a safety feature that's been in some manufacturers vehicles for decades
@@jaroslawakmiot666 but it's a hell of a lot smaller
Is extended thigh support available on any Foresters?
Went is ascent getting a redesign?
Probably no difference between the two but looked at the 25 at the Chicago auto show and found that the rear wheel wells really infringe into the rear seat hip room.
Hi Alex - Glad to read about the 2025 Forester being quieter. I have a 2022 Outback Touring. For the top tier trim, I'm disappointed in the engine noise. It ruins the luxurious feeling inside. I thought the Touring trim had more sound insulation?...Do you have any tips on dimming the engine noise?
I just bought a 2024 Subaru Forester Wilderness, Autumn Green, on Wednesday. I love it!! I’m hoping that by the time I’m ready for my next upgrade, Subaru will have come to their senses, and done away with the huge tablet.
On my last few Foresters (2023 currently) ... there is a small display above the larger screen that show the car performance. You need to tell us where that information is base on the removal of the small screen.... tks
It's between the tachometer and speedometer controlled now by the old volume toggle.
There's a section at top of big screen that takes up 1/5 of it that shows that info
I hate digital controls. Especially the delay.
I really hope the 360 view back up is a feature on the 2025 Outback.
Have a 2020 Forester Sport. So in love with it. I will pass this one down to my daughter and then get a new one in about one year. Love my Subie.
I have the 11" in my OBW and would prefer less screen more buttons
Nobody should ever be paying sticker price on any car for any reason. Dealers that's charge over MSRP are theifs, and people should find a better dealer.
Personally I don’t understand why Subaru is going with an electronic E-brake and HVAC controls. The eyesight system also makes people more lax drivers and rely on the auto breaking too much. I am very disappointed in Subaru… not to mention the new Forester looks like a Ford…
So you rather not have safety features? Go get a car from the 60s
ALEX, how do you shut off the child locks on the back door of an outback???
I just took delivery of my 2024 Forester Limited, option package #32,
Looking for a workaround for my RES, I live in an area without cell service coverage, so RES does not work with cell phone via the My Subaru app.
RES works fine if I'm in an area with cell coverage.
Thinking of getting the separate RES system with the module and 2 FOBs, just don't necessarily want the added expense or more FOBs to wrangle.
I got 1.9% APR, fine with me, sorry, appreciate your videos, but can't watch this one, don't want to know if I could have gotten a "better" deal. 🤪
Ok. I'll watch it later, always good info.
Thanks!
lol, the 2024 is the better deal unless you absolutely want/need the new features. I think the lower price and lower APR on the 2024 is the way to go! Congrats on your new Subaru!
@@alexpmo Thanks! I'm happy.
Any there workarounds like FOB tricks for my out of cell network for the RES?
I don't know if it's the same with the Forester as my Outback with remote start, but I press the lock button once and wait for the blink on the fob, do this a second time, and then press and hold the lock button a third time for at least 3 seconds. A couple second was later the horn will beep in the car will start. Now the salesperson claimed you couldn't do it anymore with the factory fob and just the remote remote start fob. He said it's cuz it caused too many problems with breaking the factory remote. I don't think my salesperson was that great, he was a knucklehead.
@@m3rdpwr Thanks for the reply.
I think that FOB trick only works on earlier models. I just saw the video of the trick and tried it on my 2024 Forester, and unfortunately it did not work.
Oh, well, first-world issues, I'll survive, maybe figure out a trick soon, it's not the end of the world, yet :O)
@@hnd2893 It works on my 2023 Outback Touring XT. You have to get the timing right, otherwise it doesn't work. Range on the factory FOB is horrible. The dedicated remote start is much better, but not perfect.
Alex, question please! I came out the other day and my battery was dead. I had just bought it six months ago and it’s a 2021. I didn’t even know there was a light in the trunk area and they told me that because it had been on, the battery failed the test, even after recharging. I had to pay $400 for a new battery and I’m wondering if this is true and possible? Thank you for any information you can provide! Love your videos!
If a 2021 it most likely was time for a new battery.
Hi Alex do you know that the forester has a known defect on their forester. My 2020 Forester sport at 66k my car was shut down and it was the thermal control valve. I just missed the 3 year warranty 60k mark and this is a bad time for this part to break down. I had spoken to the service advisor he told me that it is a known issue. Have you heard about this issue on the later forester from 21 and up?
I wish they had the same way to open the lift-gate on the 2025 Forester that is on the Outback. I hope the next generation Outback does not come with the Kick feature.
I’m actually surprised that Subaru started taking orders for the ‘25 model year when they opened the order banks for the ‘24’s in the beginning of August.
I custom built ordered mine on August 31st and took delivery on November 16th of last year.
Yes, say what you want, but I ordered the base model and put $4,200 worth of options on it.
Yes, I could have ordered the next trim level up that is the premium, but mine had everything I wanted, minus the moonroof.
Not a big fan of moonroofs.
Mine does everything I need and more.
I get complements everyday.
If your like me and simplicity with actual knobs and buttons and the best AWD system in the world in a sub $30k SUV, then ‘24’s are the way to go.
My local dealership keeps ordering (when the order banks were opened) the base models, more than any other models, and they sell off the dealer lot like hotcakes.
Only thing I wish my base model could have had was X-Mode.
Was and still curious on to giving it a go and see what it’s all about.
Keep these amazing videos coming.👍🏼
Go with2024 CrossTrek. Even base model has X-mode. I paid $25.6K for base ($27.7 OTD) and it was exactly at invoice.
2.0l engines on the base models are not only weak, but they are over worked when carrying any load over two passenger. When I fully load our 2.5l, I can really feel the difference ! Why anyone would the 2.0l to save a buck is questionable.
@@thisspotrules3631 I didn't notice that my 2.0l is underpowered. Reason people buy smaller engine version is that only CrossTrek trims with 2.0l engine are Made in Japan. Larger engine trims are all made in Lafayette, Indiana. So, on the long run you not only save a buck. You save several bucks.
@@thisspotrules3631 Another reason I opted for 2 liter engine on CrossTrek is that in general 4 cylinder 2.5 liter engines are all designed with an inherent flaw. Cylinder bore being that large make oil passages in the block too close to coolant passages. Thus ubiquitous tendency to blow head gasket in those engines. Design is improved for six cylinder 2.5 liter motors ( less stress on head gasket). That's the reason Subaru switched to H6 engine years ago , before improving strength and durability on head gasket on 4 cylinder 2 liter engine...Wife's Toyota C-HR is even heavier, than my base CrossTrek but still uses 2 liter four motor and never feels "underpowered".
I waited a year for the 24 to come out and then the 25 came out but I was waiting because I wanted automatic rear braking as a standard feature in all models which stupidly Subaru didn't do they're too focused on nonsense like electric steering wheel warmers and moonroofs which nobody needs in Florida they're just failure points while we do need a way to lock the car when we do activities like scuba diving and we need automatic rear braking to prevent accidents what do you have to say about that and please talk about the hybrids
Is there a time you recommend to target the 2024 models this year for the cheapest price? Whenever they release the 2025 models, do you expect a pretty big dip in price?
If you're looking specifically for a 2024 model, I'd jump on it now. They have already started producing the 2025 so 2024 orders are closed. That means 2024 inventory is going to drop quickly. You have a better chance of a discount while supply is still available.
@@alexpmo Our local Subaru dealer had 142 Foresters about 7 weeks ago( both on the lot and in transit). I checked their inventory today, and they are down to 46 total. They sold 7 yesterday.
When will the 2025 Forester Wilderness be released?
Did I understand correctly that the 2024 model does not have a wireless Android Auto in any trim level?
correct. Only the 2025 Forester all but the base trim will have wireless
Will the 2025 Forester offer a Turbo engine in the Touring trim?
Unfortunately no turbo engine in the lineup
Total shame, in my opinion. The Forester deserves a Turbo option, just like the Outback and Ascent.
Alex I have watched several different presenters for Subarus with the 11.6 screen. I have a 2022 Outback Touring. Nobody mentioned that you can set the temperature and the fan speed by touching the talk button and give your command without taking your eyes off of the road.
Pretty neat! I personally haven't used it much but that's helpful
I have an Outback, and you could do the same thing for the heated seats, you can just tell it that you want to turn on the heated seats.
@@m3rdpwr I have never tried the seats.
@@daviddodds1809 I tried to get it to turn on the passenger heated seat, but it would just turn on the driver side. I haven't tried it with the ventilated option on the seat yet, but it hasn't been warm enough to try it, I'll have to do that tomorrow. Be curious to see if it works with the heated steering wheel, although the switch for that is right on the wheel itself so not really productive.
Wow thank you for this. Will be trying on my 22 Outback Onyx.
Subaru needs to get rid of their CVT transmissions.
I like climate control dials in any model, I'm not loving the 25' front end. Looks like we are waiting longer to replace our 20'. Wish my 21' Crosstrek had power lift gate, wish they both had auto open lift gate sensor.
Great video. That's cool the wilderness 2025 will have the physical buttons.
Sometime can you talk about Subary wifi
One question for you.
Has it been confirmed that the 2025 Forester's will be built in Indiana or Japan ?
We would have purchased a 2nd forester wilderness to match our 2022 if they would have adopted the Toyota port and direct injection system
As always, great information, Alex! Your videos have been invaluable to me after purchasing my new Forester last year.
Your comment about Subaru‘s interest-rate now being 2.9% really caught my ear. I purchased my 2023 Forester Wilderness last October 2023 at 5.99%. I’m retiring within the year and would really like to get this thing paid off as soon as possible. Any thoughts if I can refinance at the 2.99%?
I got a ‘24 limited at 0% apr last week (the deal was only in april), and I love my car so far!!! still learning new things but no complaints.
Is there going to be a difference in the visibility? I hate to merge and the blind spots are my #1 criteria of importance. Your information is excellent! Thank you.
Tactile, not tactical.
Otherwise, great comparison.
I can’t wait I get my 2024 Forester around next Friday. It’s just the red one with grey interior and moon roof
I'm sure you'll love it!
@@alexpmo I think I will too. I’m short so I like that’s it sits a little higher up. I currently have a 2023 Subaru Outback in the autumn green metallic. To me it looks like an army vehicle. My brother is buying my current car so I can get the forester.
2024 having eyesight n rear gate problems
Show around the car not just from one corner.
Only one choice the 2025.The 2024 has the terrible and failing Thermal Control Valve (TCV). The 2025 replaced that failed design that caused plenty of Foresters to breakdown on the road.
It’s shocking that the 2025 Wilderness will be unchanged
Anything new on the Crosstrek?
Nothing on 2025 vs. 2024. Except price increase.....
Plug dongle in where your phone would go and wala wireless.
I heard the 2025 was going to have ventilated front seat…
Subaru’s wireless Apple CarPlay sucks ass!!! With the latest 2024 software update- always drops phone calls, constantly losing CarPlay connection- with multiple phones. Anyone purchasing a newer Subaru needs to know that their wireless technology is subpar to wired.
2014 forester looks better and luxury. This plastic cladding looks cheap.
I'm here to buy a Subaru, not a Ford Explorer
😂
Nothing in the 2025 that would make me want to switch to it. Everything they are changing and taking away is part of the reason why I went with what I did. I love my physical knobs and the front end look of my 2022 is part of the look I love. I just don't like the looks of the 2025. Makes the vehicle look just like others out there.
Bring the XT or Hybrid version only then I might consider this vehicle.
181 HP won’t cut it for me.
My current ‘24 CRV Hybrid Sport AWD offers 204 HP & 247lb torque ,it goes like a golf cart on steroids.
In Europe we do have mild hybrid Foresters since 2019. Battery is placed in trunk where spare tire used to be, which reduces storage a bit. Would you be willing to have reduced storage space?
Lol ......as a sport/muscle car owner for decades. I have yet to see any crossovers at a drag strip, race track or even better yet ..... on the road racing.
I ordered a '21 Limited Crosstrek with the 2.5 ..... NOT one time in the 2 & half years of ownership have I felt the urge for more hp in It. 🤔
I had a 2024 Crosstrek Sport with the bigger screen, on screen climate control, wireless charger and wireless Apple CarPlay. I decided the Crosstrek was too small for us for roadtrips so I traded it in for the 2024 Forester Sport which I got for $31k with the Harman Kardon stereo, power liftgate and sunroof. I got it instead of the 2025 Forester because the large screen system in the Crosstrek was laggy and slow and that was after the latest system update. The wireless Apple CarPlay didn’t work 2-3 times out of 10 and the wireless charger is a joke. I like the looks of the 2024 Forester Sport, the front on the 2025 looks like (to me) a 10 year old Ford Explorer front end. Plus, I’m guessing I saved money compared to the 2025. Yes, I plug in my phone now but Apple CarPlay works every time and it gets charged. Also, physical controls for the climate control but besides the slow lag times on the Crosstrek, the digital climate controls weren’t bad.
That’s exactly what I did - the Crosstrek Wilderness roof (moonroof) was too low for my 6’4’’ frame.
I’m guessing nothing changed in 2024 compared to the previous 5 years as I have a 2024 Forester Sport which has, e.g. no wirelsss Apple Carplay and the phone cubby doesn’t fit latest iPhones
Can’t decide between a Forester and a Legacy. 😂
I used to love Subaru's, then I owned 4 of them. My bad, didn't learn the first 3 times.
Newest Subaru vs. last years model? Junk vs. junk still equals JUNK.
Two type of shit!
will they have the manual transmission back?
No, I wish
2024 looks more honest. love the split screen on the 2024 for the AWD system, way more informative than the new model