Which Subaru SUV is Right For You? In Depth Comparison Crosstrek, Forester, Outback, and Ascent
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- In this video I compare our full Subaru SUV line up. This compares the Crosstrek, Forester, Outback, and Ascent. I talk about features, size, pricing, and Subaru features on each model.
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0:00 - Intro
1:08 - Crosstrek
4:39 - Forester
7:31 - Outback
11:45 - Ascent 
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If you're trying to compare Subaru SUVs, comment below with any questions you have and I'll do my best to answer!
Alex, I really like your videos. I'm very close to buying a suburu. Are the 2024's available now?
Do you have know when the new 2024 outback’s will be coming out?
Alex - can you do a video on Subaru catalytic converter theft? My dealer is reaching out to SoA to se of an aftermarket protector would void my warrant bc it may be considered a ‘modification’. Thanks in advance! You need a Patreon so we can support you! Ty so so much!
@@edhelgabell3138 yes! Most of the 2024 line up is out.
@@kieralayne the 2024 Outbacks are out now!
If you are a tall guy the forester is the right car for you. I’m 6’7’and this is the only car on its class that I don’t need to put the seat all the way back and the head clearance is very roomy. Highly recommend vehicle 🙌🏻
I currently have an Outback & Crosstrek. These are the 5th & 6th we've owned. We have had all 3 main models. Our Outback is a 2019 3.6. Great road trip car. The Ctrek is a 2023. Last fall went on a 1100 mile trip with it & it was also great. Favorite thing abt both is Eyesight. Great safety help.
A friend's Outback locked up the wheels when a black piece of plastic fell out of a pickup in front. It was an AI screwup. He could hear the people in back locking up their brakes too. Subaru said they can't "detune" the Eyesight.
The Subaru Forester is the perfect blend of adventure and practicality. Love it!
I recently sat in a Crosstrek and the seat and cabin felt just like our Forester. Very nice little suv. Not as luxury feeling as our Ascent, but way to go Subaru on making a small SUV not feel cramped for a larger person!
i have both cars and crosstrek is much more cramped compare to forester
Much roomier in the latest Forester compared to the Crosstrek.
@@TechDude56but obviously 🤦 the Crosstrek is a smaller car!
Yep. The Rav4 is not roomy.@@leedaq7767
More than that is the steep windshield angle which limits headroom and getting in and out of the thing.@@liv0003
Alex, you outdid yourself on this presentation. Excellent job on explaining the differences between the four models. I look forward to your content. I purchased a 2023 Subaru Outback Touring XT and love it. I learned most of the features on your channel. In fact, I showed some of them to my sales associate.
Thank you Robert! I really appreciate that. Enjoy your XT!
I too agree that this presentation is excellent. It is carefully organized. I think it was probably practiced before filming, too. Speaking as a former member of a Toastmasters International Chapter, I am impressed.
Great video!! All of the fresh body stylings look amazing! Favorites are the ascent and Outback. 🤤
I got a 2020 Outback Premium. I’ve been so happy with it. So comfortable. I love the look of the Forester, and I test drive one, but the Outback felt more luxurious and rode more quietly.
Thank You for the video giving us a comparison of and details on each model. This was a very informative and well done.
Great video Alex! The big reason why I opted for the 2023 Forester wilderness was the smaller display. I will be surprised if the 2020 doesn’t have the bigger display. Keep up the great work. 👍🏻
Excellent presentation!! Thank you !
We just bought a 2024 Crosstrek because I felt it was the best bang for the buck. I needed a car that my teenagers can drive safely, and that is good for the whole family. Very nice small SUV I love it!
Sooper helpful. Thank you!
This was great, thank you!
Great job Alex!
This video is an excellent resource for specific Subaru vehicle comparisons!
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Thanks for breaking it down so well, I definitely want an outback now
Great timing to watch this video. My husband and I are comparing the Crosstrek and Forester to replace our 2012 Forester. I like the Crosstrek, but my husband wants the Forester for the extra height and room. But I just can’t get over the looks of the Forester, I was hoping for a redesign by now.
Thanks for the walk through!
really good stuff thank you for this fine comparison.
Terrific video. Will be leasing a Subaru early next year and doing my studying now. Learned so much about the different models and how they differ. Thank you for educating us all.
@rodchris8630, I stopped by at the Subaru dealership this morning to check out the Crosstrek Wilderness which I’m planning to lease. To my amazement, Subaru doesn’t offer no free oil change while leasing. Is it true? Your response is greatly appreciated.
I belong to my dealerships VIP program. Free oil changes are included among other things.
Great review of the lineup!
Excellent video! Thank you for explaining the differences.
You’re welcome!
Excellent compare and easy to understand. 🙂
Great video. Thanks for sharing 👍
This is very very helpful i am still learning the suburu line ups with the small suv
Very helpful! Love my Outback!
Nice comparison. The difference between the towing capacities with the smaller models was probably due to the vehicles having the same total cargo capacity but one vehicle weighed more than the other.
What follows isn't so much about Subaru as about considerations about trailers, that will help you select what model to get. Having a trailer gives you a major boost in cargo capacity, don't skimp but don't over buy. Spend time learning how to back the thing up.
Towing is a bit complicated and while capacity of "X" pounds is convenient it is misleading since it doesn't deal with enough details. Vehicles, transmissions, tires, hitches and axles are all rated on how much load they can carry. In the case of a tow vehicle that includes the weight of the vehicle, its passengers, cargo and whatever is on the tongue. Some trim levels have a transmission cooler which ups the towing capacity. Having brakes on the trailer can also improve capacity. For instance the Ascent with Touring and above trim has a transmission cooler and is rated at 5,000 lbs. if the trailer has brakes. If it doesn't then the capacity is much less.
The basic idea is that each thing, tow vehicle, trailer, whatever, has a capacity that shouldn't be exceeded. The tow vehicle has a maximum cargo capacity, the hitch has a maximum load capacity as does the trailer. If everything is balanced out you maximize your capacity with out overloading anything.
Here's an example, all weights are American.
Vehicle Calculation
1. Vehicle cargo capacity is 1000;
2. It has a class 3 hitch with a 800 max tongue weight;
3. Driver is 200;
4. Passenger is 150;
5. Cargo in the vehicle is 200;
6 Total is 550, 450 left over
Tongue Calculation
1. Maximum load on the tongue is 1,000 - 550 = 450;
2. The tongue is rated at 800 ( 2 above) so we are good so far.
Trailer Calculation
1. Recommended tongue load 10% of trailer weight;
2. So 450 = 10% of trailer at most;
3, Trailer max is 10 x 450 = 4500;
4. A single axle trailer normally has wheels and an axle rated at a maximum of around 3750, it maybe less so check that tag;
5. Lets assume the trailer weighs 1000;
6. 3750 - 1000 = 2750 for cargo;
7. If you want to go higher then you either need need more axles and tires or heavier duty stuff. Whatever you get will weigh more which lowers how much cargo can go in since the tow vehicle has a limit as well. Essentially the emptier the trailer the bigger it can be;
With a single axle normal trailer and everything balanced nicely you could have about 2750 in the 1000 trailer for about 375 on the tongue. We had a max of 450 so looks good.
Now lets think about the transmission and brakes. Both are designed to move the vehicle around with a load of 1000 in cargo. We have 550 interior cargo + ( 1000 + 2750 ) trailer cargo = 4300. Yes the trailer wheels and axle are carrying much of the weight but the vehicle is towing and stopping the whole shebang. That's why in this setup you need a transmission cooler and brakes on the trailer.
Something to consider. Any cargo in the vehicle is calculated 1 for 1. So for a 1000 total and 550 in the vehicle you have 450 left. If some of that is moved to the trailer then if properly balanced its 10 to 1. In the above example if we move the 200 in vehicle cargo to the trailer then vehicle load is 350 and So the tongue can carry an extra 200. Using the 10% rule the maximum trailer weight, including cargo just went up by 2000. We added 200 to the trailer so we have a net gain of 1800. That doesn't mean the trailer capacity went up, it means you could use a trailer with larger capacity. Balancing the trailer load as well as balancing the tow vehicle, trailer combination are both good things to do.
Great vídeo just started watching your videos today lol.
Doea the Suburu Acadter comes Hybrid?
Pretty helpful, thanks!
Great video thank you!
I'm looking for comparisons on older models and a tighter budget like under 10k. Look forward to hearing your thoughts
LOVED your reviews! Ive been checking out different brands for my future cars, mostly Japanese cars. I wanted to ask do Subarus still have head gasket issues? Did they use different materials/parts for the engine? Thanks🎉
Hey Alex! I've been subscribed for about a year now. I appreciate your videos, and last year bought a 2023 Outback Premium with the upgraded package. Now we are looking for a car for my husband (we live in Denver, Colorado) and we just custom ordered a 2024 Crosstrek Limited in Sun blaze Orange! I also just accepted a job at our local Subaru dealership... after watching you for so long I'm excited to get into this business. It seems like this has been a great career for you!!
Congratulations! Glad I could help. It has been a great career and something I have really come to enjoy. Best of luck with the new job!
I love my 2018 Crosstrek 6MT. Such a fun, zippy car to drive, and I love the compact nature of it. The 6 speed has a great feel. It is however smaller than I need for some uses so I’ve been looking at the Forester Wilderness. Can you please do some trim level comparisons? Also any idea when the ‘24 Forester Wilderness will be available?
Thnx, nice presentation. Have 2019 Outback 45k Miles...LOVE IT😅
I own a Forester 2020 in Japan and I do have a smart rear mirror. 😁
It is awesome.
I just got a job at a local Subaru dealer, this video was extremely informative to help explain the differences between Subaru models, I appreciate the info!!
Congrats on the new job! Happy to help!
@@alexpmo thank you! I’ve been selling cars for a little over a year now for CDJR, a change to a Japanese brand is gonna be a big change, but I’m beyond excited to work for a brand like Subaru
keep up the good work
Now I know what I want to test drive at Subaru. Thanks for a thorough video.
Thanks for the info.
Great video!!! I am hoping to get my Outback Limited XT by the end of this month!!!
Thanks! Hope it arrives soon!🤞
@@alexpmo I was offered a fully loaded Outback Touring non turbo model that is in stock at the dealership in the Cosmic Blue Pearl color. Should I get this over the Limited XT that should be arriving at the dealership at the end of this week? Both are around the same price. Is it worth it getting the turbo engine over the extra amenities that the touring offers? What would you recommend to a customer?
Just got an outback. Like driving a comfy recliner to work! Way more comfortable than my 08 accord i must say
I am a Subaru lover and always enjoy your reviews and learn something new.
Thank you! Happy to hear you enjoy them!
@@alexpmo Alex you sure are welcome.
@@alexpmo Sure do without question.
Thank you, Alex😊.
Outback ftw! Forester looks like every other mid size SUV. Outback is unique.
2022 forester wilderness.
Love it. It’s very easy to get into and out, visibility is great, safety features great. If it had port injection to supplement the direct injection it would be perfect
I wish there was another Forester trim level with the StarTex seats. I don't really need all the stuff the Wilderness has, and it uses more gas.
I also have a 2022 Forester Wilderness and I absolutely LOVE my vehicle! I've learned so much from these videos! My question to you is what is your average mpg? I tend to average 22.4mpg and we live on a farm in a rural area. And I also seem to get better gas mileage when in Sport mode. This is going by what the display screen says regarding my gas mileage. I haven't gone so far as to keep a gas mileage paper diary. Just curious what other owners are getting.
@@empathy212 city 23 mpg
40%_city - 60% highway 27mpg.
Autostop eliminator installed the first 100 miles.
Have a good one from west Tennessee
great video Alex, Outback Touring all day long.....hoping for XT turbo version in UK for the next model (Gen 5 & 6 don't) 🤞
I have the 21 premium out back. Love everything about it. The comfortable ride, the eye sights, the quick oil change and space. Im thinking about trading it for the 23 ascent onyx edition 😊
Great review! I wanted to review this before I went vehicle shopping. I’ve had jeep grand Cherokee‘s for quite some time and looking for something different. Leaning towards the outback and the Forrester I’m in my car a lot for work if I go with the outback I would be more inclined to go with the turbo. Thanks again!
Purchased the 2024 Outback XT and negotiated $2,400 off sticker.
Excellent presentation, was looking for someone that compares all the models! I'm saddened by the lack of standard transmissions, where is the Legacy?
Tactile = related to touch
Tactical = strategic planning and skills
very good Alex, my favorite is the Ascent Touring.
Thank you! The Ascent Touring has a lot going for it!
Very helpful!
Happy to help!
WE just traded up to the 2023 Ascent Limited 8 Passenger in anticipation of our third grandchild. The seating is tight with two car seats in the third row, but we are very happy with the vehicle. This is our 6th Subaru, started driving the Outbacks in 1998 and traded in our 2019 OUtback for the Ascent. You won't be disappointed with the vehicles.
What was the final price?
I prefer the tactical buttons and smaller screen. I do like the idea of wireless plug in. I would like a Crosstrek with a 2.5 turbo with a 6 speed manual. That would be cool.
Great minds think alike
Unfortunately there is just not enough demand for manuals in North America to offer them.
P. S. On a more serious note, if the Forester Wilderness came with a 6-speed manual, it would become the go-to vehicle for crossover enthusiasts. It would be the vehicle for 90% of drivers for 90% of the time…
Or at least a typical automatic with gears.
Had a 17' then 19' Outback. Loaded. Then decided to try something new so bought a 22' Crosstrek. Mistake. Wish I had kept my last Outback. Hard to step down. Miss the power liftgate among other things. Hope to get another Outback. Looking at the Wilderness.
Yeah overall that's a step down. I have a 19 Impreza now, love it. Had a Forester and Outback prior, Outback still rules.
Yes, it's difficult to step down in model. The Crosstrek has some great value, but the overall quality on the Outback is better.
Just test drove the touring xt, what a splendid automobile it checks all the boxes, only thing I don't like is all the cladding, especially around the front grill.
How about a deep dive on the accessories, tow bars, etc? Upgrade packages.
I have a new 2023 Outback Limited XT and on a recent 1,100 mile trip we achieved an indicated 29 MPG across Arkansas and Texas where the speed limit was 75 MPH. I’m pleased with that mileage. I’ll also report that the wireless Apple CarPlay worked flawlessly. My only complaint, it the lack of front parking sensors. Thanks for the thorough review Alex!
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Damn I wanted a forester before I saw this now I want an outback thanks
Not sure if I want to go with the 2024 Forrester or Outback? I’m interested in car camping. I’m 5’9”. Can I sleep in both? I like that the forester has higher storage space.
Hi Alex. Thank you for your Subaru videos! Could you please check if Ascent 2023 finally has mirrors memory like for other models?
I have a 2018 Subaru forester which I love have 82000 miles now the driver and passenger seats are so uncomfortably!!! What kind of after market seat replacement would you recommend thanks
I’ve always wanted an Outback
I still only have 5300 miles on my 2022 Outback, oh I need a vacation 😊
Had An Impreza, Loved It! Moved Up To A 15' Outback, Have Owned It 4 Yrs. I Car Camp, Use It Like A Truck, Demon In The Snow Couple Of Minor Problems, Will Buy Another One When This One Dies Only Have 123k On It,So It Will Be A While Plus It's Paid For ❤❤⛽⛽⛽
good video
Alex, I watch all of your videos. Could you please make a video on how to pair your iphone telephone listing to a new Subaru Outback,(of which I just purchased) so that all I have to do is use the controls on the steering wheel. I am actually on my 4th Outback. Thankyou.
All of that research goes right out the window after you test drive them 😂 Prior to my purchase, I just KNEW I was a Forester girl! Well, my chosen car wasnt ready so I test drove an Outback to waste some time... and needless to say, I now drive a 2011 Outback 2.5i Limited 😂😂😂
That happens more often than you'd think! 😂
Thanks for the video! How does the legroom compare for backseat passengers across the 5 seater options?
Depending on my financial situation after I get my new job I'm truly gunning for an outback but i'd be very happy with a forester as well.
I’m currently looking at a Durango SRT 2019 that is $50,000. Surprisingly enough this new Subaru ascent has all the features that SUV has with a few more add-ons for half the price you got to be kidding me smh.
Subaru was doing a really good job 👍🏾 14:18
Subaru has really stepped up their game in recent years. Been looking at the Forester Wilderness to replace my aging 2005 Ford Taurus. Given vehicle prices today, the Subaru Forester Wilderness is at a great price with great features, and ground clearance needed in snow country...although I do just fine with my Taurus and just having front wheel drive, the Subaru AWD system would be an added bonus. Nice that Subaru hasn't gone all turbo charged engines, and hopefully they never do...The "Offroad", or "Adventure" version of the Toyota RAV-4 is over $40k. Subaru's Forester Wilderness is $5k less, and seems like the better AWD system as well.
Hello Alex, I've been systematically watching your videos as we are purchasing a 2024 Crosstrek Onyx. This will be our 3rd Subaru vehicle since 1999. And while watching this particular video I've got to say that my excitement for our new vehicle has dropped a smidge as we live in Canada and it gets rather cold up here during the winter months and the power lift gate on our 2015 Forester has been a godsend even if it's not cold out. Would it be possible for you to do a quick video on opening the lift gate on a 2024 Crosstrek. I can't seem to find any information on this. Thank you so much for your videos.
Just got a 23’ Outback Wilderness and love it. Traded in my 20’ forester touring for my outback. I feel snug in the seats of my outback. I feel I sit higher in the my outback wilderness. First time owning a turbo engine. My question is I thought the Subaru Ascent only got a refresh I didn’t know it was a redesign?
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I wish Subaru would make a small compact truck with the Forester platform!
The Crosstrek is too small for me and the Ascent is way more than I need. My wife has an Outback, but I chose the Forester for its shorter length and taller cabin. I'm 6' 2" and the Forester fits me perfectly.
Same here. Roomy, quiet,OK power. I just can't deal with the seats.
Great video!
I have a 23 Outback and love it!
Thanks! Same here. Great car!
My wife’s chevy Camaro was totaled three weeks ago so we needed a car quickly. Not much on the used car market but extremely overpriced vehicles. Had been think about getting a outback xt for myself, so I had my wife test drive a crosstrek. She loved it. None available in black on the lot and 2.5 engine was probably three or four months away. They had a black premium on order already. No power or heated seats😪. They said it should be here in early September, we put a deposit down on it. Keeping our fingers crossed that it arrives sooner than later.
WEll, currently we are having some problems with logistics, the U.A.W. tantrums are effecting some of our venders and there is currently a steel shortage. We are trying to get caught up, but getting materials has been a problem. Since the covid plandemic the supply chain has been a mess.
Alex can you give more information on the 2018 Outback? I purchased a used one and cannot figure out mot of these features.
Hello, I just received my 24 Impreza with the fix a flat kit. I’ve always has a spare tire and was wondering if you can create a fix a flat tutorial. Thanks!
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Can we add front camera or 360 view to a forester premium or sport model? I test drove the wilderness model with the front camera feature. I liked this but do not need many of the wilderness features. We also take long highway trips and the wilderness model MPG is a downside.
Also, can we get a limited or touring version with cloth seats (or vegan "leather"? (if yes, can it also add front or 360 camera) - I do not want leather seats. It is frustrating most/(all?) higher trim level vehicles only offer leather interior.
Is the interior for any seats - vegan "leather"? I was told they "are pretty sure" it is for the wilderness.
Reason why the wilderness Crosstrek has 3500 lbs over the forester is they put a 2.5L engine in the Crosstrek vs the standard 2.0L.
What is the reason vehicle trims are different in Canada and the US? Would it not be more cost effective to have them all the same? And they tend to be quite different for example the Premium vs Touring have much different features inside.
I am interested in the Forester. My wife has a 2023 Premium which she enjoys. Two questions. 1- Can Forester Premium be ordered without a sun roof? I do not believe it can but wanted to ask. 2- Will the 2024 Forester be a continuation of the 2023 model? Read a view articles this may be the case. Thanks.
Will they ever add the 360 view on the 2023 or 2024 outback touring? If so, when
You know it's too bad that sedans are indeed falling out of love. I'm curious how some of the more recent conversations go with sedan customers who are concerned about the "updated" side impact crash test ratings on IIHS. I'll take an Outback XT with the extra tech features in the Ascent, revert to the physical hvac controls and I'm sold. Bonus option is to have the eyesight cams as 24/7 surveillance with recorded footage able to be retrieved locally over usb.
I managed to snag an Impreza sedan. I'll hold onto it as long as I can.
Hi Alex! What do you think is a better suv, the 2024 limited Crosstrek, or 2023 premium outback? I am trying to analyze what vehicle is better for the money
Friends have an XV & Crosstrek in Australia 🇦🇺 I helped with buying.
Washing & detailing on occasion I find the scuff trims around wheels 🛞 easily scuff in daily use and impossible to detail / polish / clean. Brilliant otherwise very comfortable great handling etc. But Subaru need to do better scuff trim materials.
Very good comparison on these models - just wish you had touched briefly on the safety ratings. I have heard that Subarus have good safety ratings. Thanks.
Thank you! Here's a video I made covering the details on Subaru's safety: ruclips.net/video/4jo9zO05exo/видео.html This is applicable to all of the cars in the lineup
In the real world data, as in Death Rates in Cars, or the Insurance Claims Data, the Outback is stellar great, and the CrossTrek and Forester did well in their class. In the price and size, I cannot think of a car which is better than the Outback safety wise.
I would love to have an outback
Awesome👍👍👍
Our Ascent Limited is Awesome, it’s one of the best Vehicles we have owned, very easy drive ability, layout is super, power is very good,
And the ride is really, really good. The Hamon Cardin (SP) Stereo is outstanding! It is a very good looking Car as well!
Hi. I have a 2023 Outback, Premium edition. I don't think it has front sensing to stop the car from hitting something. Am I correct? Thank you, Alex. Ken
Love your videos-can you explain what looks like a small display above the crt?
Are you referring to the black bar above the touchscreen display in the Outback? If so, that's the driver focus (it detects distracted driving and has facial recognition for your memory seats/mirror)
@@alexpmo yes I was…
@@mr.2d749 that’s it! Only on the Subarus equipped with memory seats.
We have been Toyota car people since 1977, including a Toyota 1/2 ton pickup during that time. We have been Ford picup buyers, with a 1999 F250 Super Duty (bought in August 1998)10 cylinder now with 188,000 trouble-free miles on it , towing our 8500lb travel trailer. We have had a 1977 Corona, Corrollas, 1984 Camry Limited (loved that car, gave it to my daughter who gave it to her dauther with 350,000 miles on it still running like new!) Then we graduated to Avalons, two late 1990 models, then a 2005 Avalon wiht all the bells & whistles that is still my favorite drive. But, in February we moved back to Washington with snow in our area. We ordered and took delivery on our new 2023 Forrester Wilderness. With all the goodies, more than I have figured out just yet, delivered and out of the parking lot for about $42,900. This is a lovely car, fun to drive, but most important, my wife can drive it with configence. At our stage of life it is not likely we will be buying any more cars, but I feel really happy that we have had the affordable and trouble free Toyotas, and now a Subaru.
In 2024 models will they still offer a CD Player because I always loved that in Subaru
With the new Crorolla Cross, I think the Crosstrek should have bigger back end to be more utilitarian.
I'm a Toyota owner (4Runner Limited), the Corolla Cross was an absolute NO when I was out looking for a second vehicle.
@@danielfair4675you are very correct. I had a 2023 Corolla Cross (Slowrolla) FWD which my husband hated. I knew acceleration was slow but didn’t realize that it was too slow to the point that it was difficult to enter the highway. Finally trade in for an Outback XT. I know Outback XT is significantly more expensive but worth every penny. I also have an 2017 Impreza, and I love that little car.
I just purchased a 2024 Outback Limited XT. I guess you must have to program something to get the hatch to open by motioning over the emblem? Mine doesn’t open when I wave over it.
So long as subject only offers only CVTs, the right one is an old 6mt one.
Can you do a video about the battery save mode and how to turn it off for a drive-in movie?