They are great aren’t they. Still on order another one. The early version 25/0 with all the grills and the small centre window in the cab. Cheers Richard.
The ultimate rat! So worried about missing out, I’ve just ordered the re-released Bletchley version. Perfect for when and where I’m modelling. Don’t mind the wait!
This is a league above the Bachmann 24/25 both of which I had. Funnily enough I got my SLW 2nd hand too but fitted crew myself. I have ordered 2 tone green D7599. I have asked for crew fitted for £10. Hoping gets here before xmas. Thanks for sharing.
Hi, very nice. I have an SLW class 24, which i always think were the best kept secrets in OO. I remember seeing one and thinking, oh out of my league, must be so expensive. Then found they werent! That a brilliant loco. All the very best Dave.
I thought that as well. Yes they are a little more but really not a lot compared with the big players. I got the 24 second hand a few years ago. That raised the bar then.
@@CHESEABUN I agree, yes they are a little more price wise, but not that much for the extra amount of detail and the super sounds you get with them, especially considering the Class 24 came out a few years back now.
The Suttons class 25 is a work of art, pure and simple. I'd say its taken the crown as the best RTR British locomotive you can currently buy, which the Cavalex class 56 had briefly pinched from the Suttons class 24. The old Bachmann windscreens on their 25/3 look different because they got them very wrong all those years ago, and on their old class 24, 25/1 and 25/2. Another area where the old Bachmann models show their age can be found at the solebars along the sides, on the Suttons 25 its recessed in quite deeply, just like the real thing. Those old Bachmann 24s and 25s are still very sweet runners though, among the smoothest we've ever had, and they still make for good affordable layout engines.
I got the Cavalex 56 earlier this year. Just got it back from the weathering works recently and was going to do a review on it. Then the 25 turns up out of the blue after a long wait. Yes the 25 as you say is pure art! I will do a review on the Cavalex 56 as that is also a stunning model! Just listed my old Bachmann 25 on E bay this evening. As you say the Bachmann model ain’t bad and as for early sound not bad either. Thanks Richard. Will the Accurascale 31 top this due soon?
@@CHESEABUN My experience with Accurascale models is that they're very good indeed...but they don't quite hit the highest step. From what I saw of the Accurascale 31 at DEMU not too long ago, they got the engine hatches a bit wrong. It'll still be a seriously impressive model, better than the Bachmann 31 IMHO, but more another case of nearly but not quite. I love Accuras 37s, but there are aspects of them which I'm not so keen on like the removable roof panel which doesn't re-seat quite true and overly heavy detail on the roof hatches. I also feel the windscreen surround seams for the whole frame is overdone for the sake of saying 'look, we included that detail'.
Stunning locomotive Richard and SLW have knocked this one out of the park! Can’t wait to get my hands on Tamworth Castle in BR Green livery, hope it’s not 3 years though 🤣 managed to pick up a 2nd hand SLW 24 in RTC livery the other day but without sound , just sent off a spare plux22 decoder to be reblown with a Jamie Goodman sound file from roads & rails , don’t think it’ll have all the sound functions as yours but should sound great 👍
You won’t be disappointed Darrell. I would have thought Tamworth castle should be out soon?? I am still discovering things with the sound files. Very responsive differing sounds with each notch. Like to see both of your 25’s. Richard. Just listed my old Bachmann one on E bay. Which is actually not a bad model and sound.
The quality is amazing and also the sound sounds very good. If I purchase one of these I will have to tell the Wife I paid £5 for it don’t tell her.😂😂 great video cheers Carl
I bought a sound 2nd hand 24 from Rails. Beautiful. Got a green 25 on order and asked them to fit crew for me. Didnt fancy taking body off like the 24 to fit crew
I also got 24 081 2nd hand from rails a few years ago. I was blown away with that model back then. You will love the new one. Lots to discover with the model. Richard
Hi Good review , I’ve had mine for 6 months now and still think it is most detailed oo loco made and with price increases by other manufacturers it is also a reasonable price.
To be honest I don’t know? There maybe is? But I have never disassembled the loco. Probably best thing to do is E Mail Sutton Locomotive works or ask on their Facebook page? Cheers
Never thought about that. You can always see wrinkles in the the body panels with the gloss real locos. There must be a reason they did it in Matt?? Cheers Richard
@CHESEABUN I recall just a few years back it was the in thing to t cut loco bodies. Particularly steam locos...to make them shine. This could then be weathered gently to suit. In your case the shiny body would contrast to general dirty "not black" as our friend Nigel would say. Just like the real thing .Well....no ripples as you rightly point out lol
I use to see one of these on 2M59 P'boro to Crewe parcels every day and the loco was NOT glossy. Matt and well weathered blue. Any loco out of works was only glossy for a week or two. Can you confirm one thing on your lovely 25 model please? Is the yellow panel on the front of the loco painted and not just coloured plastic? Thanks.
Genuinely thought your photo was a photo of the real loco. Beautiful loco, shown to great effect on your layout. All the best.
Thanks for the kind comment. Richard
Hopefully will get mine before Xmas?two up to now!lol
They are great aren’t they. Still on order another one. The early version 25/0 with all the grills and the small centre window in the cab. Cheers Richard.
The ultimate rat! So worried about missing out, I’ve just ordered the re-released Bletchley version. Perfect for when and where I’m modelling. Don’t mind the wait!
It’s worth the wait. You won’t be disappointed. I have ordered another one. Early version 25/0.
This is a league above the Bachmann 24/25 both of which I had. Funnily enough I got my SLW 2nd hand too but fitted crew myself. I have ordered 2 tone green D7599. I have asked for crew fitted for £10. Hoping gets here before xmas. Thanks for sharing.
They are good aren’t they? Enjoy your latest 25 edition. Richard
Such a realistic model. Thanks for sharing.
Yes this one is very impressive... Richard
Great video, I have Tamworth Castle on order. The loco looks and sounds amazing, thanks for sharing..👍
You won’t be disappointed. Even though it’s been a long wait. Richard
me too
Quite agree it is a stunning model and an improvement on SLW's class 24 releases. Thank you for sharing.
I was blown away with the 24 which I bought second hand from rails of Sheffield a few years ago. Then this! Thanks for watching. Richard.
A very nice model Richard.
This one is very impressive Richard...
Hi, very nice. I have an SLW class 24, which i always think were the best kept secrets in OO. I remember seeing one and thinking, oh out of my league, must be so expensive. Then found they werent! That a brilliant loco. All the very best Dave.
I thought that as well. Yes they are a little more but really not a lot compared with the big players. I got the 24 second hand a few years ago. That raised the bar then.
@@CHESEABUN I agree, yes they are a little more price wise, but not that much for the extra amount of detail and the super sounds you get with them, especially considering the Class 24 came out a few years back now.
beautiful engine ... ty for the video
No probs. I am very impressed with this loco...Richard
A class 25 which gets the cab windows just right, brilliant
Yes. Just found it it is correct. Richard
The Suttons class 25 is a work of art, pure and simple. I'd say its taken the crown as the best RTR British locomotive you can currently buy, which the Cavalex class 56 had briefly pinched from the Suttons class 24. The old Bachmann windscreens on their 25/3 look different because they got them very wrong all those years ago, and on their old class 24, 25/1 and 25/2. Another area where the old Bachmann models show their age can be found at the solebars along the sides, on the Suttons 25 its recessed in quite deeply, just like the real thing. Those old Bachmann 24s and 25s are still very sweet runners though, among the smoothest we've ever had, and they still make for good affordable layout engines.
I got the Cavalex 56 earlier this year. Just got it back from the weathering works recently and was going to do a review on it. Then the 25 turns up out of the blue after a long wait. Yes the 25 as you say is pure art! I will do a review on the Cavalex 56 as that is also a stunning model! Just listed my old Bachmann 25 on E bay this evening. As you say the Bachmann model ain’t bad and as for early sound not bad either. Thanks Richard. Will the Accurascale 31 top this due soon?
@@CHESEABUN My experience with Accurascale models is that they're very good indeed...but they don't quite hit the highest step. From what I saw of the Accurascale 31 at DEMU not too long ago, they got the engine hatches a bit wrong. It'll still be a seriously impressive model, better than the Bachmann 31 IMHO, but more another case of nearly but not quite. I love Accuras 37s, but there are aspects of them which I'm not so keen on like the removable roof panel which doesn't re-seat quite true and overly heavy detail on the roof hatches. I also feel the windscreen surround seams for the whole frame is overdone for the sake of saying 'look, we included that detail'.
Hi Richard excellent review
I have the two tone green on order.
You won’t be disappointed. They should be available soon?. Cheers Richard
Stunning locomotive Richard and SLW have knocked this one out of the park! Can’t wait to get my hands on Tamworth Castle in BR Green livery, hope it’s not 3 years though 🤣 managed to pick up a 2nd hand SLW 24 in RTC livery the other day but without sound , just sent off a spare plux22 decoder to be reblown with a Jamie Goodman sound file from roads & rails , don’t think it’ll have all the sound functions as yours but should sound great 👍
You won’t be disappointed Darrell. I would have thought Tamworth castle should be out soon?? I am still discovering things with the sound files. Very responsive differing sounds with each notch. Like to see both of your 25’s. Richard. Just listed my old Bachmann one on E bay. Which is actually not a bad model and sound.
The quality is amazing and also the sound sounds very good. If I purchase one of these I will have to tell the Wife I paid £5 for it don’t tell her.😂😂 great video cheers Carl
Definitely worth the money. The deal with me and the wife is that I said I will sell my Bachmann 25 to subsidise the SLW one.
What I really like about your layout is a train can go under a bridge as if leaving the main scene and emerge into a vast yard!!
Thank you Richard
I bought a sound 2nd hand 24 from Rails. Beautiful. Got a green 25 on order and asked them to fit crew for me. Didnt fancy taking body off like the 24 to fit crew
I also got 24 081 2nd hand from rails a few years ago. I was blown away with that model back then. You will love the new one. Lots to discover with the model. Richard
Wow! Looks fabulous. I’d like to get the green -w- small yellow end panels if possible. Do you know the Catalogue number, by any chance, please?
I have D7672 on order from SLW, due in a few months I believe, can't wait!
That should be due soon. You won’t be disappointed. Richard
Hi Good review , I’ve had mine for 6 months now and still think it is most detailed oo loco made and with price increases by other manufacturers it is also a reasonable price.
Absolutely. Can’t really fault this one. I think there is some competition going with the class 25? Many manufacturers of this loco. Richard
Hi Richard the wait seems to be worth it I’m still waiting for Tamworth castle like you 3 years + pre ordered cheers Al
Hi Al, Tamworth Castle should be out soon?? You won’t be disappointed. Lots to discover with the model. Richard
Is there any way that you can tap into the circuit board get the fan working or change the fan so that it becomes a working one?
To be honest I don’t know? There maybe is? But I have never disassembled the loco. Probably best thing to do is E Mail Sutton Locomotive works or ask on their Facebook page? Cheers
The only thing that stops this looking like a real loco in your first shot, is the fact the body is matt not gloss like the real one would be.
Never thought about that. You can always see wrinkles in the the body panels with the gloss real locos. There must be a reason they did it in Matt?? Cheers Richard
@CHESEABUN I recall just a few years back it was the in thing to t cut loco bodies. Particularly steam locos...to make them shine. This could then be weathered gently to suit.
In your case the shiny body would contrast to general dirty "not black" as our friend Nigel would say. Just like the real thing .Well....no ripples as you rightly point out lol
I use to see one of these on 2M59 P'boro to Crewe parcels every day and the loco was NOT glossy. Matt and well weathered blue. Any loco out of works was only glossy for a week or two.
Can you confirm one thing on your lovely 25 model please? Is the yellow panel on the front of the loco painted and not just coloured plastic? Thanks.
@@tulyar1043 It is definitely painted. Richard
@@CHESEABUN Thank you for the info. It is for me, model of the year 2024.
But where was it built ?
The real one Darlington and Derby. The model probably China?
@@CHESEABUN Thats not China Money !
@@colin5296 It says on their website manufacturing is in China.
I have a 24 and 25 on order from them
You won’t be disappointed! Enjoy. Much to discover with these locos especially the sound files. Richard