To the Spirit of God by the Mormon Tabernacle Choir, see how the number of stakes in the Church has increased since the opening of this dispensation through 2004. I did not make this video.
President Thomas S. Monson presided at the event. A capacity crowd of more than 3,500 attended the celebration, which was broadcast to LDS meetinghouses in the temple district and other locations in the United States.
@IExposeMormonism The scene was a fitting end to a production staged to celebrate the dedication of the Gila Valley Temple - the Churchs 132nd temple and the third in Arizona. The youth retold - through song, dance and spoken word - the rich cultural history of eastern Arizona. In the final moments of the show, they themselves became the foundation stones of the temple, standing close together wearing white.
Wow that was AWESOME. i got goosebumps all down my body, would you be able to make an updated one for 2008? I leave on my mission March 36th to the Texas San Antonio Spanish speaking mission. Im so excited
Oh yeah, every LDS person knows that we aren't talking 13 million active members. I don't see why that matters...especially since we still have one of highest activity rates of any Christian church. Activity in any church is something we'd encourage.
I was referring to the numbers that are reported in text books and the media as to the number of Catholics. I wouldn't be surprised at all to find the number of practicing Latter-day Saints at 4 or 5 million. I don't believe our numbers is ever reported as "13 million practicing members" but rather 13 million total membership. I still don't really understand why it matters either.
People that are baptized as infants, but that never attend church after that are counted. Many Catholics are really good, devout people. But many have no intention of ever having a role in the church or participating in any way. I say our numbers may be more accurate because Catholics may claim 1.1 billion adherents, but have a small percentage participating. The LDS Church may claim 13 million adherents, but have somewhere in the ballpark of 50% participating.
Using that argument, "if it were true..." then you would have to ask why the apostles weren't more successful and why they were killed after Christ left. If what they said was true, wouldn't they have had God's support? Of course, but only as much as the people are willing to listen. We believe that people will be increasingly more prepared for this message as time goes on and the restoration Joseph spoke of is still taking place. I still don't see this as an exaggeration.
Well, I don't think it's dishonesty at all when you consider how easy it is for someone to remove their records. All they have to do is fill out a form and they are no longer counted as members of the Church or on church rolls. These "less-active" people are the ones who still want to be affiliated with the Church, but don't come every Sunday. I mean, when you consider the numbers that Catholics use, I think ours are way more accurate.
The Catholic Church does not merely add the number of baptised - that is what the LDS do (and delete them when they are 110 years old!). I have taken part in Catholic counts - they are undertaken at Mass at several times in the year and are painstaking - I can confirm this from personal involvement) to obtain accurate figures. One of your own experts (David G Stewart Jr. - google him) estimates the number of practising Mormons at 4 million and says that it cannot be greater than 5 million.
Well no they don't, there are people on RUclips who quote 13 million membership as your Church currently does so just trying to set the record straight as few other people seem to want to do it. Are you aware that inactive members are included on church rolls until their 110th!! birthday. Is this a unique take on statistics or is it dishonesty? (They are massaging the figures)
According to the SL City Tribune the LDS has claimed membership of 3.6 million in countries where the censuses ask for religious affiliation to be recorded - guess what the censuses show an overstatement of 366% Which means that the 13 million figure claimed by the LDS is actually 3.7 million of living and active members!
Well, it doesn't really matter to me but there are people on RUclips saying that there are 13 million members as does the official LDS site (without any qualification whatever) so it matters to them. This is clearly not the 'restoration' that Joseph promised, as the leadership knows so it has to exaggerate. If it were true and had God's support, why is it so very unsuccesful?
But the Apostles were successful as Christ promised. The Christian Church had 'branches everywhere' before St John died, even though the Romans were executing them. Read the early Church Fathers e.g St Polycarp who was ordained by St John himself.
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I remember watching this in the MTC and I cried like a baby. The Spirit was so strong.
Excellent, thank you! Very moving!
Loved it. The growth is just begginig, people! We'll reach much, much more.
that os one of my favorite hymns second olny to "Praise to the Man"
President Thomas S. Monson presided at the event. A capacity crowd of more than 3,500 attended the celebration, which was broadcast to LDS meetinghouses in the temple district and other locations in the United States.
@IExposeMormonism The scene was a fitting end to a production staged to celebrate the dedication of the Gila Valley Temple - the Churchs 132nd temple and the third in Arizona. The youth retold - through song, dance and spoken word - the rich cultural history of eastern Arizona. In the final moments of the show, they themselves became the foundation stones of the temple, standing close together wearing white.
Wow that was AWESOME. i got goosebumps all down my body, would you be able to make an updated one for 2008? I leave on my mission March 36th to the Texas San Antonio Spanish speaking mission. Im so excited
In the final moments of the cultural celebration, hundreds of youth - draped in white capes - celebrated the coming of a temple to eastern Arizona.
Sorry to hear that bro. I hope everything is going well for you now. That can be pretty hard.
Oh yeah, every LDS person knows that we aren't talking 13 million active members. I don't see why that matters...especially since we still have one of highest activity rates of any Christian church. Activity in any church is something we'd encourage.
I'm ready for an update.
I was referring to the numbers that are reported in text books and the media as to the number of Catholics.
I wouldn't be surprised at all to find the number of practicing Latter-day Saints at 4 or 5 million. I don't believe our numbers is ever reported as "13 million practicing members" but rather 13 million total membership. I still don't really understand why it matters either.
The Angel Moroni statue, common on most LDS temples - including the Gila Valley Temple - completed the scene as it rose above the man-made foundation.
To the delight of the audience, President Monson and President Eyring sang "Aya En El Rancho Grande" in Spanish.
And that was 16 years ago!!
People that are baptized as infants, but that never attend church after that are counted. Many Catholics are really good, devout people. But many have no intention of ever having a role in the church or participating in any way. I say our numbers may be more accurate because Catholics may claim 1.1 billion adherents, but have a small percentage participating. The LDS Church may claim 13 million adherents, but have somewhere in the ballpark of 50% participating.
Using that argument, "if it were true..." then you would have to ask why the apostles weren't more successful and why they were killed after Christ left. If what they said was true, wouldn't they have had God's support? Of course, but only as much as the people are willing to listen. We believe that people will be increasingly more prepared for this message as time goes on and the restoration Joseph spoke of is still taking place. I still don't see this as an exaggeration.
Well, I don't think it's dishonesty at all when you consider how easy it is for someone to remove their records. All they have to do is fill out a form and they are no longer counted as members of the Church or on church rolls. These "less-active" people are the ones who still want to be affiliated with the Church, but don't come every Sunday. I mean, when you consider the numbers that Catholics use, I think ours are way more accurate.
How do Catholics compute their numbers?
The Catholic Church does not merely add the number of baptised - that is what the LDS do (and delete them when they are 110 years old!). I have taken part in Catholic counts - they are undertaken at Mass at several times in the year and are painstaking - I can confirm this from personal involvement) to obtain accurate figures. One of your own experts (David G Stewart Jr. - google him) estimates the number of practising Mormons at 4 million and says that it cannot be greater than 5 million.
Well no they don't, there are people on RUclips who quote 13 million membership as your Church currently does so just trying to set the record straight as few other people seem to want to do it. Are you aware that inactive members are included on church rolls until their 110th!! birthday. Is this a unique take on statistics or is it dishonesty? (They are massaging the figures)
According to the SL City Tribune the LDS has claimed membership of 3.6 million in countries where the censuses ask for religious affiliation to be recorded - guess what the censuses show an overstatement of 366% Which means that the 13 million figure claimed by the LDS is actually 3.7 million of living and active members!
Well, it doesn't really matter to me but there are people on RUclips saying that there are 13 million members as does the official LDS site (without any qualification whatever) so it matters to them. This is clearly not the 'restoration' that Joseph promised, as the leadership knows so it has to exaggerate. If it were true and had God's support, why is it so very unsuccesful?
But the Apostles were successful as Christ promised. The Christian Church had 'branches everywhere' before St John died, even though the Romans were executing them. Read the early Church Fathers e.g St Polycarp who was ordained by St John himself.