what pisses me off is they dont realize that everytime they do that we know they are full of shit. what fuckin grown ass adult cries in the middle of a conversation. pathetic
I was that guy, moved to France to be with a girl. Got a job, got sick of her constantly correcting my grammar so we spoke English in the apartment. Then one day we went for a drink many months later and she nearly fell off the chair when she heard me speaking French with the owner. On an aside the cultural differences are huge, what is natural in another country is totally different in France. I ended up engaged to that girl but my gut was telling me something was up, my spidey sense had told me to be wary of a particular guy. Anyway I said nothing, then got the job I had been working towards since I was a kid. She turned around and demanded that I choose her or the career. I told her straight not to ask me to choose as she wouldn't like the answer. She insisted, and she was shocked when I chose the career. Anyway as she was freaking out over the break up she threw her past hidden infidelity at me and asked how it felt to know she had cheated ( with the guy my gut had warned me about).I answered that it felt like I'd made the right choice. Trust your gut, always. It's a rule I live by now.
YUP learned the long & painful hard way used to have hunches called her out hard to prove denial is powerful then she was all good and only later i found out my previous hunches were real the same dude she was with was the dude she was fcjing so. Rather get slapped in the face by truth than kissed by a lie
Yep, the only exception those people who see it everywhere...jealous,.abusive men, like my neighbor who's wife I took to the ATM for money, on his request,...she is 50, me 32 then...says to me I had better be sure I had done nothing...that we had taken a long time...a 50 year old woman...yes, those marks on her, she said were from abuse...this is a guy who put a gun in his ex-wife's mouth, so yeah, he is going to think the charitable 32 year old neighbor went off and did your wife while getting you some money...for the the most part if it smells like weed, it's weed...except when you have roaches, but everyone knows the difference when they put their mind to their nose.
The trick I've always played if a girl did that to me is I'll get up and go start up a conversation with an attractive girl. Never had a girl not run back over to rejoin me lol. Oh so you don't like it when I do it? Imagine that.....
@@JayInDecent based on your comments it seems your whole attitude is based on thinking you know what girls want and therefore you won't have these kind of problems. Just be yourself man. Otherwise you risk choosing the wrong broad as your one and only.
Ji M Knowing English beyond a minimal level isn't a common thing in France. French people are much more conservative and proud, they expect you to know French. I wouldn't be surprised if this dude didn't know much English at all.
Very fucking true !! It's fishy to say the least... The other guy was trying something, most definitely. I mean not all of us Frenchmen tolerate adultery but some guys just don't give a fuck if a woman sits with her boyfriend, though I think she was just toying with that guy to see if she still got it, that's actually pretty common. We're latins, so just like Spanish, Portuguese or Italian people, we love to flirt just for the sake of flirting. Bill is also right about practicing some more French (or whatever the langage of the country you're in), it definitely helps. I've been there in Germany, trying to decipher if some guy was trying to flirt with my girlfriend at a time where my German wasn't fluent and the right thing to do is to stay in there even if you don't understand what's going on. People overestimate you once they know you got a handle of a langage, use that !! Oh, and body langage rarely lies ^^
Thebear That's what I wrote in my initial comment. A lot of French guys tend to be sneaky when it comes to girls. Also, the French guy didn't even introduce himself to the boyfriend and completely ignored him while talking to the girl. It just shows how he didn't respect the fact that they are in a relationship nor did he care.
Yes we are, I began at age 12, nowdays kids begin at around 10. The problem is, it's taught badly, we concentrate too much on writing and not enough on speaking and the general level of our teachers is very low so unless you go to a private school, you won't be proficient with it.
For you guys in a relationship for the first time, don't fall for that. It's so easy to be blinded by love and let this shit go away, but if you girlfriend does sth like that to you, she doesn't respect you, doesn't care about your feelings, and will most likely cheat soon. It's not your ego, you're not overreacting. They are manipulating you and they know it. Just walk.
real talk. its the sort of shit that scares me off from relationships and probably the biggest reason why i've never been in one, or wanted to be in one
@@ahmed-bw5mb Relationships are great dude, you grow so much as a person. I just think being fucked over and hurt is part of the experience. Then again its part of life in general. Still, if u find the right person the pros always outhweight the cons.
@@bruhmiyamoto9685 i suppose so, its not like being in a relationship doesnt seem to be peaceful and comforting, but all the stories u hear all the time about people cheating or abusing their partners just scares me off, or disinterests me lets say. for sure tho, with the right person u wouldnt worry about any of this, i guess im just waiting for it to happen naturally rather than just ask someone out and try my luck out
If this happened to me I would have told her we're done, and chuckle on my way out of the bar, then I would cry myself to sleep for a few weeks and I'd start going out to meet women again.
Solid advice, br3ak. Even though sometimes the best medicine hurts the most, you're really saving yourself from an even greater heartache down the road by doing this.
I've met a lot of french people abroad and one thing that they certainly do a lot is speak french with each other without any regard whatsoever that you don't understand french EVEN when they all speak english. Very rude people in general.
@@johnwick8516 It's not really about History,it's mostly about the recurring joke that the French always surrender,even though they have won a ton of times.
This is why Patrice said to only love them 80%. Keep that other 20% for when the red flags start popping up and it helps you stay objective, and lets you leave them if it gets out of hand.
Her dismissive contempt was a message for both you and the dude. Start paying attention to the all of the other things that your gut is trying to tell you that didn't make it into this email. I would bet that this is not the first time.
Just so you guys know, it's not cool to hit on a guy's girlfriend here in France, or have a mistress :p good segment anyway, that kind of situation is always dangerous
there's a movie named "5 to 7" that was the reason I thought the french have open relationships. so was it completely wrong or it happens less that portrayed ?
If I had a foreign girlfriend, I'd speak English with my friends so she would be able to join in any conversations, just to help me make her at ease being a guest in *MY* country & family but mostly because I don't want her to exclude from my life, my friends, family whatnot. This is just plain rude...
Wife at the time did that exact same shit to me with a mutual "friend" at the time! Confronted her the same way only to find out she was seeing him all along!
What he was saying about the French made me remember a video from a French youtuber (I'm fluent in French). It was one of the most popular youtuber in France, and he was making a parody of another video where some guy with zero social skills and flirting game, was getting every girls' number he asked for. So the youtuber dressed himself like a loser with no game, and went awkwardly asking for girls' numbers. One girl recognised him. So when he asks "hi do you have a bf", she answers word for word "yeah, but we can work something out". It was fkn hilarious 😂😂😂
There's only two ways to correctly handle those situations: Some dude tries to insert himself into your conversation while you're 1on1 with your girl, you politely introduce yourself, say nice to meet you, then turn away from him and keep talking to your girl. If he tries to insert himself into your conversation again, look at him silently for a moment then turn back and resume talking to your girl. Don't even acknowledge him. If he tries again, cut him off with "We're having a conversation" and turn back to her. Most will slink off by that point. If not, you'll probably have to get the bouncer. It's tougher if she knows the guy. With that, you turn your attention to some other girl. If you're in a group, turn your conversation to the group. Play it up by having a visible, loud good time. Get everyone laughing. If you're not in a group, find some other girl nearby to start chatting up. Any girl. Doesn't matter if she's not a looker. Or the bartender. Do the exact same thing your girl is doing to you, but better. If she gives the slightest shit about you, she'll get jealous and leave the guy to come hover on you. The two WORST things you can do is meekly sit there in silence and take it, or get insecure and bitter about it. Both make you look like a pussy. But I would question the relationship in the first place if she's even worth keeping. No woman who's really into you and respects you would pull this shit. I can't even imagine how little respect I'd have to have with someone I was out with before I would completely ignore them for 15 minutes and talk to someone else right in front of them in a language they didn't understand. This would be disrespectful if it was a girl you've only been seeing for a month. But a prospective fiance whom you moved to another country for? Get out with that shit. (She swore she was doing nothing but talking good things about you? And never once turned to you to add to the conversation? Bulllllllllshiiiiiiiit)
"No woman who's really into you and respects you would pull this shit." This is all that needs to be said. "I can't even imagine how little respect I'd have to have with someone I was out with before I would completely ignore them for 15 minutes and talk to someone else right in front of them in a language they didn't understand. " This how entitled many modern women are these days. They don't think anything they do is disrespectful. They only focus on what makes them happy at that very moment.
If they were talking about him and the other dude didn't start trying to communicate with him some way, then they weren't talking about him and he is not just afriend at work. Your friend at works wants to meet who your with and talk to them.
Lmfaooooo “no we need to discuss it now I can’t go to sleep without knowing what you wanna talk about” that is word for word what my stupid bitch ex would say. ACCURATE AF!
I’m an American in France with a French girl. It’s definitely a challenge to go be in unfamiliar territory. It’s lead to some difficulties but communication is key to making relationships work, especially across cultures.
If my girlfriend, whom I live with, did this to me it wouldn't go well. I'm too confrontational of a person to sit there analyzing whether or not it is what it looks like. The fact that it looks like that is enough. She should have the good sense to not do something that looks the way it does, whether or not it is that way. It's still disrespectful to allow conditions that look like that, and carry on because you know it's not that. You wouldn't relax if it looked like you had killed someone when you hadn't. I'd interrupt and bring the conversation to English. I'd gain some context of their relationship. If I didn't like his intentions I'd speak down to him until he looks like a pussy to her. If I determined that she was interested in him, then that's something to be dealt with. I actually believe that it's a little unrealistic to expect that your partner will never find someone else appealing. Sometimes you meet someone who is kind of hyponotizing to your attention, and you indulge it just a little bit, to feel those good feelings of back when you could explore exciting new connections. But that little bit is tiny. Seconds, even. It's just a nice feeling to encounter someone who is your type, and you're theirs and it's clear there's chemistry. But you love your partner and your love for them is far more important than any of that bullshit. If you're someone of integrity you wouldn't throw away someone else's heart and your damn soul for a flirtation. It's not worth it. You've already got something better. And that chemistry exists between you and your partner, too. That's how you got together. So you already have that, and something better on top. End of story. If someone indulges that feeling too much then it means they're able to be seduced. Their own conviction doesn't prevent them. It's only circumstances or the lack of persuasiveness of the new connection that holds them back. In this case it seems like it was the circumstances. The boyfriend was right there. If they didn't have a code language to speak in the circumstances would've been even more restrictive. This shits making me angry just simulating it in my mind. Lol
The leg pat seems dismissive, like the pat you give a puppy or a car when it brushes up against your legs. Also, check up on the history of this chic and dude, it doesn't seem innocent to me.
I think she was using the language barrier for some sort of twisted sexual fetish where she can say whatever kind of perverted shit she wants to, and the boyfriend just sits there clueless. It's pretty evil. And I guarantee she would never come clean about it. Women hold on to that shit like a trophy.
I know I cant be the only one who listens to bill talk about women & relationships & it makes me realize how fucking pathetic my ex gf was hahahah spot on shitty person, and I relate 10000% to what bill said about 'your gut doesn't lie' !!!
These days lots of women weren't taught how to behave. So a lot of the duty falls on men to train women because the women are unaware of all the problems these incidents cause. If this is a young woman, she may be able to be rehabilitated. But he should put his foot down and explain all the problems and the position this puts him in as a man. This is a big deal and should be treated as such. If it is an older woman, he should move on to another woman because it will be too much trouble. It is not uncommon for women to gravitate towards the higher energy and good feelings guy in a bar situation because they are just following their emotions. This other guy basically pulled an AMOG move of hitting on the boyfriend's girl right in front of him. This causes the boyfriend to lose status and turns on the girlfriend who is excited by the new attention. The better question is what to do in this situation? It is difficult for guys because their immediate response is to be defensive. Since the issue is that the girlfriend sees the other guy as higher fun energy, I would recommend the boyfriend up the ante in the energy department. Three ways he could do this in a bar. 1. He basically takes her to the dance floor with a big positive emotion of this is my song, sorry but I have to dance with my girl and march her off caveman style with no opportunity for refusal. Who cares if the interloper understands him or not? 2. He starts mocking the AMOG in his girlfriend's ear by giving him back the AMOG treatment. You can just assume the elephant in the room and say stuff with a laughing manner of Is this dork really trying to pickup my girl or Are you really trying to fuck my girlfriend? It doesn't matter if he can't understand the language, he will understand through nonverbal communication. And you can follow up with things like Why can't you get your own girl? It isn't hard and so on. How about that girl over there? Or you just say these things in your girl's ear with the aim being to get her to laugh and thereby sabotaging the conversation because you are bringing down his status in the process. Force him to have to qualify himself. 3. If those fail, he should start flirting with the female bartender or another woman that is within earshot of his girlfriend. This should get her attention and break her out of the good feelings spell. If she doesn't pay attention to that, she isn't the girl for you. After the incident, even if he did the above, he would still need to have a sit down with her and explain what was going on and how emasculating this situation is and how it can't happen in the future because of all the risks and questions it causes in him about their relationship.
OldHickory12 That's pretty solid advice for anyone to be the more dominant person in those types of situations, but I honestly, as a girl and a fairly young one, can assure you that the woman involved can perfectly asses what's going on, and is just acting naive. Of course there are exeptions to the rule, but not plenty. I would also add that this type of behaviour would be rude towards whoever she was sitting with, just a female friend for example who doesn't speak the language and is completely excluded from the conversation. Inexcusable.
She knew exactly what she was doing. Passive aggressive activity meant to make him jealous, while letting him know that this is who she really is if she ever made this trip alone in the future. He should have excused himself to the bathroom and just left, packed up, flew home, packed his stuff and moved out.
As soon as I saw something sus going on I’d start recording the conversation on my phone and literally pay a bilingual person (just go to an international hotel to find one) to translate for me. The fact he couldn’t understand what was being said makes this situation so messed up
ahhh situations like this are not easy. I mean, this did not sound good. But it´s easy to sit and say that he should just dump her. But dumping someone you believe in because you had a bad feeling one time, will probably feel more wrong. I have been in similar situations. And it ultimately created such and eerie mistrust that i ended up ending it. And i´m glad i did. Makes me uneasy to hear about stuff like this.
Doesn't matter if he was drunk or not. Their is no such thing as OVERREACTING in in a situation like this. He should have confronted her right away whether drunk or not. SHE'S at fault here, not him. So she deserves a grilling. That's a stupid and disrespectful move on her part.
Honestly bro... living in Québec and if you're dating a french girl the culture/language divide will always be an issue. It's often better to stick with your own.
In France this isn’t too strange. It is annoying though I’ve been in a similar situation. French guys have no boundaries either on the whole they’re all like teenagers lol
Id always be skeptical of some one spending a ridiculous amount of time talking to some one they don't intend to ever see again as its just a massive waste of time so that already would give me red flags
He should have just asked in the moment what were they talking about, with a polite but very subtle psycho tone, just to hint that he was uncomfortable, and increase the level of agresiveness if they didn't catch the hint, until they do.
She was clearly enjoying the attention and vibing with that guy. After 4 years, not that surprising. Real problem is her lack of respect/consideration for boyfriend. And I could only see that getting worse... unless he somehow manages to power up.
Somthing similar happened to me and I never got over it.. she apologized to me after and said she didn't even realise she did it.. she didn't know what came over her and she would never do anything like that again.. ?????? you have to wonder,, if she did that to you while you were there,what happens when your not there....?? That was the question in my mind that finished us.. No trust after that..
This whole thing is sketchy, but the most incriminating part was her insistence that she was talking about her boyfriend the whole time. I could believe that she was talking to a co-worker about random things, but if she really was talking about the boyfriend, why did she never look at him or introduce him or get him in the conversation? At best she is just fucking rude which is a good enough reason to leave her.
She may or may not be in the wrong, but that other guy who was with her at the bar definitely was, he knew what he was doing. Basic rule of life- if it hisses and bites, its a snake. - what you have to do to guys like that is serve the awkward right back and engage him- pat him on the shoulder in a patronizing manner, wink him, stare him down a bit, serve that awkward sauce right back
Apart from the guy budding in on the table for 2, its just severely impolite to alienate someone in a convesation by another language. If you care about someone, always try to include them when you're together. She knew what she was doing, evident by the crying on the way back. Good riddance.
My ex shouted at me for being annoyed when we were at the bar with her friends she kept on going on about how good looking and hot this dude in her class was. Girls like that, run a fucking mile.
Its weird. I was with this girl for a couple years and she'd get hit on by everyone whenever we went out, and it never bothered me. We even made it a little game when she knew exactly why I'd ask her to get to leave the table or whatever to get drinks. I'd see her turn heads and guys just start conversations I knew what was about on her way back. Then we'd laugh about it. I was never once jealous while with her. Other girls and even girls I was interested in but had no investment with I have been jealous around. It was mostly because I was in a bad place and knew in the back of my mind i had no chance with them to begin with. But long story short, a friend I found out had been knocking me down at every opportunity behind my back knowing full well that I'm trying to get somewhere with this one girl, and long before I knew that I wanted to smash his face in whenever he was around, but didn't know why precisely. But...I knew our friendship was over when the girl began bringing up embarrassing stories that only he knew. So the next time I saw him I asked about his sister and how she's doing...and I said at the end "so you're saying I should have banged her before she got all coked out then?" At that point I made him aware of the fact that I was aware of the shit he was doing to me. It was really stupid shit I'm not proud of in any way, and is why I also don't talk to girls that are connected to people I know.
Remember when your mom had company over and gave you that "look" meaning: Go to your room? Thats how marriage works, subtle hints should be enough, unless she doesnt respect you..
The girl's dick move is not talking to the guy, it's not including the bf in the convo she didn't even think that the bf doesn't understand shit there and would like to join in. She just chatted away not even sparing him a glance and continues on using speaking deep french not taking the initiative to speak in english or on a pace her bf understands. Maybe what they were talking about is harmless, but the way she treated the guy is unacceptable in a "Serious" relationship. Still, unless she does this on multiple occassions the bf should endure if he feels that she's worth it.
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The fact that she was "tearing up" on the way home tells you how guilty she was.
Florent N nah. that was pure manipulation to try and make him feel like the bad guy
Karribu ya mate.. girls can cry on command. Theyre the ultimate manipulators. It's all they have over men
Karribu exactly, they do that when they know they're at fault.
Yup. If she's crying in front of you and you just can't find it in you to empathize with her, there's a really high chance that she's faking it.
what pisses me off is they dont realize that everytime they do that we know they are full of shit. what fuckin grown ass adult cries in the middle of a conversation. pathetic
when are you guys gonna understand that if she dont act like your girlfriend she is not your girlfriend.
EXACTLY.
Yup
Yo I've never thought of this before lmao this is like open my 3rd type shit I'm changed forever now lol
Thank YOU! PUMP AND DUMP
So true
I was that guy, moved to France to be with a girl. Got a job, got sick of her constantly correcting my grammar so we spoke English in the apartment. Then one day we went for a drink many months later and she nearly fell off the chair when she heard me speaking French with the owner. On an aside the cultural differences are huge, what is natural in another country is totally different in France. I ended up engaged to that girl but my gut was telling me something was up, my spidey sense had told me to be wary of a particular guy. Anyway I said nothing, then got the job I had been working towards since I was a kid. She turned around and demanded that I choose her or the career. I told her straight not to ask me to choose as she wouldn't like the answer. She insisted, and she was shocked when I chose the career. Anyway as she was freaking out over the break up she threw her past hidden infidelity at me and asked how it felt to know she had cheated ( with the guy my gut had warned me about).I answered that it felt like I'd made the right choice. Trust your gut, always. It's a rule I live by now.
Are you for real or are you trolling
Cuz your story is pretty believable so i am uncertain
@@zak1814 as close to the facts as I can get without giving out my name.
Good job for choosing your career. Most guys would’ve chosen the girl
Wow, good man. Vibes don’t lie
Just curious (if you don't mind me asking, of course), what was the career choice?
“‘Our relationship is very serious.’ ..we never laugh” 😂
Usually if you think you are getting cheated on, you are getting cheated on.
YUP learned the long & painful hard way used to have hunches called her out hard to prove denial is powerful then she was all good and only later i found out my previous hunches were real the same dude she was with was the dude she was fcjing so. Rather get slapped in the face by truth than kissed by a lie
Sometimes it’s paranoia.
@@keithdavidkeith that's why he said _usually_
Yep, the only exception those people who see it everywhere...jealous,.abusive men, like my neighbor who's wife I took to the ATM for money, on his request,...she is 50, me 32 then...says to me I had better be sure I had done nothing...that we had taken a long time...a 50 year old woman...yes, those marks on her, she said were from abuse...this is a guy who put a gun in his ex-wife's mouth, so yeah, he is going to think the charitable 32 year old neighbor went off and did your wife while getting you some money...for the the most part if it smells like weed, it's weed...except when you have roaches, but everyone knows the difference when they put their mind to their nose.
Can confirm.
I suspected it three times and guess what.
All 3 Times I was right
Don't yawn Bill, his girl's getting the ol' 12' inch baguette treatment ova deeeeeeeeeeer...
Conor Doyle this was hilariously awesome...but sad too at some point.
what else do you expect with the LAY-DEEEEESSS
The trick I've always played if a girl did that to me is I'll get up and go start up a conversation with an attractive girl. Never had a girl not run back over to rejoin me lol. Oh so you don't like it when I do it? Imagine that.....
Yeah. Im like fuck her i dont need her 24/7 attention. Id leave and go entertain myself. Girls never respect an emotionally needy guy.
Good idea
@@JayInDecent based on your comments it seems your whole attitude is based on thinking you know what girls want and therefore you won't have these kind of problems. Just be yourself man. Otherwise you risk choosing the wrong broad as your one and only.
My talks with attractive girls last 10 seconds tops.
You shouldn't be with someone you feel the need to play games with
Dude, please, if you're reading this, just record everything with your phone and then ask a friend and/or the internet to translate that for you.
Great idea, seriously. Getting a friend to translate a bunch of im's between a girl and her sister may have saved me a bunch of grief down the line
studyeye elaborate?
Yeah but bars are loud. Doubt you'd get clear audio there
seriousyouth194
an excellent suggestion
Damn I gotta delete my comment.. I should scrolled further and seen you said it first.. I'll delete my comment you beat me to it. Great minds..
"You were right. Then you were drunk so became wrong" hahaha
ivegotabfmv its so goddamn true
He’s right tho
It's hard to stay rational or say stuff without thinking. When your drunk for real
the fact that they felt the need to use another language when there's other people at the table is a red flag in itself
Ji M Knowing English beyond a minimal level isn't a common thing in France. French people are much more conservative and proud, they expect you to know French. I wouldn't be surprised if this dude didn't know much English at all.
Very fucking true !! It's fishy to say the least... The other guy was trying something, most definitely. I mean not all of us Frenchmen tolerate adultery but some guys just don't give a fuck if a woman sits with her boyfriend, though I think she was just toying with that guy to see if she still got it, that's actually pretty common. We're latins, so just like Spanish, Portuguese or Italian people, we love to flirt just for the sake of flirting.
Bill is also right about practicing some more French (or whatever the langage of the country you're in), it definitely helps. I've been there in Germany, trying to decipher if some guy was trying to flirt with my girlfriend at a time where my German wasn't fluent and the right thing to do is to stay in there even if you don't understand what's going on. People overestimate you once they know you got a handle of a langage, use that !! Oh, and body langage rarely lies ^^
Thebear
That's what I wrote in my initial comment.
A lot of French guys tend to be sneaky when it comes to girls. Also, the French guy didn't even introduce himself to the boyfriend and completely ignored him while talking to the girl. It just shows how he didn't respect the fact that they are in a relationship nor did he care.
Ji M aren't the french taught english as children at school?
Yes we are, I began at age 12, nowdays kids begin at around 10. The problem is, it's taught badly, we concentrate too much on writing and not enough on speaking and the general level of our teachers is very low so unless you go to a private school, you won't be proficient with it.
Your gut feeling is always right.
No it's not
@@blaga8636 It hasn't failed me or most of the guys I know, more often than not problems come when you don't listen to it
@@aasdfghk45 just cuz you think of the worst possible outcomes doesn't mean it's right
@@aasdfghk45 and when you get a new one you're gonna have those thoughts cuz you've been hurt not everyones like that
@@blaga8636 that's the thing, those are your thoughts, not your gut. And it doesn't apply just to relationships, but life in general
In the famous words of Ritchie April
"She's a huwer"
Justin Edwards thanks for correcting him instead of me lol
Justin Edwards
A) She was a hoo-ah
B) I was doing a lot of cocaine
C) she was a hoo-ah
Whowa
Ralphie*
Oh Jesus. Sounds like somebody needs to get a plane ticket and fly the fuck away and fast.
retikka Makes me wonder if he footed the whole travel bill
This relationship is over..they likely flirt at work..
...she'd fucking him. There's no question about it at all...
They fucked on the copier and he framed the black and whites of her pressed ass and lingerie.
Robert Dore Lol tf are you on
@@mikewebb612 This sent me 🤣🤣🤣
For you guys in a relationship for the first time, don't fall for that. It's so easy to be blinded by love and let this shit go away, but if you girlfriend does sth like that to you, she doesn't respect you, doesn't care about your feelings, and will most likely cheat soon. It's not your ego, you're not overreacting. They are manipulating you and they know it. Just walk.
Anytime I hear stories like that I physically feel sick.
Shit hurts
Bruh Miyamoto Right? We ALL know that feeling. Rips your soul out, man
real talk. its the sort of shit that scares me off from relationships and probably the biggest reason why i've never been in one, or wanted to be in one
@@ahmed-bw5mb Relationships are great dude, you grow so much as a person. I just think being fucked over and hurt is part of the experience. Then again its part of life in general. Still, if u find the right person the pros always outhweight the cons.
@@bruhmiyamoto9685 i suppose so, its not like being in a relationship doesnt seem to be peaceful and comforting, but all the stories u hear all the time about people cheating or abusing their partners just scares me off, or disinterests me lets say. for sure tho, with the right person u wouldnt worry about any of this, i guess im just waiting for it to happen naturally rather than just ask someone out and try my luck out
@@ahmed-bw5mb Definitely, you cant force stuff like that
If this happened to me I would have told her we're done, and chuckle on my way out of the bar, then I would cry myself to sleep for a few weeks and I'd start going out to meet women again.
Solid advice, br3ak. Even though sometimes the best medicine hurts the most, you're really saving yourself from an even greater heartache down the road by doing this.
Regardless of the actual nature of her relationship with "that guy", the point is that she was being disrespectful to her Fiance.
Don't take your girl to bars. =)
I'd recommend this gentleman to read The Rational Male by Rollo Tomassi. He really needs it.
Rodrigo Mesquita the rational male is the shit.
The chateu heartiste is better tho
There should be follow ups on these emails!
I've met a lot of french people abroad and one thing that they certainly do a lot is speak french with each other without any regard whatsoever that you don't understand french EVEN when they all speak english. Very rude people in general.
Exactly. I get it that you're proud of your language, but as an Indian I wouldn't talk to you in Hindi when you ask me a question 😂
Should have let their surrendering asses get annihilated. Wouldn't have been a big loss to society.
Getbent97 another American that doesn’t know history, how surprising !
@@johnwick8516 It's not really about History,it's mostly about the recurring joke that the French always surrender,even though they have won a ton of times.
I can back this. I've been to France and they're assholes when it comes to speaking English
This is why Patrice said to only love them 80%. Keep that other 20% for when the red flags start popping up and it helps you stay objective, and lets you leave them if it gets out of hand.
80% is bit generous don't you think, 40% max and that's pushing it.
@@mrbas5150 60%
Her dismissive contempt was a message for both you and the dude.
Start paying attention to the all of the other things that your gut is trying to tell you that didn't make it into this email.
I would bet that this is not the first time.
I was talking about you and yet he was excluded from the conversation the whole time, such bs LMAO
Just so you guys know, it's not cool to hit on a guy's girlfriend here in France, or have a mistress :p good segment anyway, that kind of situation is always dangerous
there's a movie named "5 to 7" that was the reason I thought the french have open relationships. so was it completely wrong or it happens less that portrayed ?
DrTheKay they might be. but I'm not american.
DrTheKay oof the cringe
DrTheKay oh yeah I’m totally butthurt
@DrTheKay Aller te rendre a qqn.
If I had a foreign girlfriend, I'd speak English with my friends so she would be able to join in any conversations, just to help me make her at ease being a guest in *MY* country & family but mostly because I don't want her to exclude from my life, my friends, family whatnot.
This is just plain rude...
Wife at the time did that exact same shit to me with a mutual "friend" at the time! Confronted her the same way only to find out she was seeing him all along!
Oh man lol, yeah that didn't sound good early into the story. Don't wife her.
So she didn’t introduce the two when she was supposedly talking about him? That’s unusual
Good spot.
No he shouldn't of waited... in her mind it wound seem petty to wait that long... just be upfront about it.
My girlfriend hangs out with a guy she knows is into her more than me. Ending it today
How'd it go
how’d it end chief?
Hey bro what happened
He rode off into the sunset alone and the credits rolled people
He banged the other dude and established dominance.
“Sorry I’ll take that yawn out“ 😂
What he was saying about the French made me remember a video from a French youtuber (I'm fluent in French).
It was one of the most popular youtuber in France, and he was making a parody of another video where some guy with zero social skills and flirting game, was getting every girls' number he asked for. So the youtuber dressed himself like a loser with no game, and went awkwardly asking for girls' numbers. One girl recognised him. So when he asks "hi do you have a bf", she answers word for word "yeah, but we can work something out".
It was fkn hilarious 😂😂😂
Bill....you are a very funny man and, in addition, you are a very wise and insightful man....thanks
Binge watching these clips
One hundred percent correct on the frenchies' adultery.
You were right but you were drunk so you are wrong the way you said it so true hahaha
Evolutionary Intuition- listen to it!!
There's only two ways to correctly handle those situations:
Some dude tries to insert himself into your conversation while you're 1on1 with your girl, you politely introduce yourself, say nice to meet you, then turn away from him and keep talking to your girl. If he tries to insert himself into your conversation again, look at him silently for a moment then turn back and resume talking to your girl. Don't even acknowledge him. If he tries again, cut him off with "We're having a conversation" and turn back to her. Most will slink off by that point. If not, you'll probably have to get the bouncer.
It's tougher if she knows the guy. With that, you turn your attention to some other girl. If you're in a group, turn your conversation to the group. Play it up by having a visible, loud good time. Get everyone laughing. If you're not in a group, find some other girl nearby to start chatting up. Any girl. Doesn't matter if she's not a looker. Or the bartender. Do the exact same thing your girl is doing to you, but better. If she gives the slightest shit about you, she'll get jealous and leave the guy to come hover on you.
The two WORST things you can do is meekly sit there in silence and take it, or get insecure and bitter about it. Both make you look like a pussy.
But I would question the relationship in the first place if she's even worth keeping. No woman who's really into you and respects you would pull this shit. I can't even imagine how little respect I'd have to have with someone I was out with before I would completely ignore them for 15 minutes and talk to someone else right in front of them in a language they didn't understand. This would be disrespectful if it was a girl you've only been seeing for a month. But a prospective fiance whom you moved to another country for? Get out with that shit.
(She swore she was doing nothing but talking good things about you? And never once turned to you to add to the conversation? Bulllllllllshiiiiiiiit)
"No woman who's really into you and respects you would pull this shit." This is all that needs to be said.
"I can't even imagine how little respect I'd have to have with someone I was out with before I would completely ignore them for 15 minutes and talk to someone else right in front of them in a language they didn't understand. " This how entitled many modern women are these days. They don't think anything they do is disrespectful. They only focus on what makes them happy at that very moment.
If they were talking about him and the other dude didn't start trying to communicate with him some way, then they weren't talking about him and he is not just afriend at work. Your friend at works wants to meet who your with and talk to them.
Man.... my stomach started turning for the guy!
“Our relationship is serious, we never laugh”
1:42 shoulda been like "get your ol simple ass on!"
That's when you initiate the translate app on your SMART PHONE!
Your guy don't lie. When you learn that, and can trust that, life changes forever.
Lmfaooooo “no we need to discuss it now I can’t go to sleep without knowing what you wanna talk about” that is word for word what my stupid bitch ex would say. ACCURATE AF!
Your gut doesn't lie unless your head's fucked up -- Bill Burr - 2017
I’m an American in France with a French girl. It’s definitely a challenge to go be in unfamiliar territory. It’s lead to some difficulties but communication is key to making relationships work, especially across cultures.
Shes not yours. Its just your turn.
Tell that girl to kick rocks!
He should have recorded what he heard and had someone translate it from him later
If my girlfriend, whom I live with, did this to me it wouldn't go well. I'm too confrontational of a person to sit there analyzing whether or not it is what it looks like. The fact that it looks like that is enough. She should have the good sense to not do something that looks the way it does, whether or not it is that way. It's still disrespectful to allow conditions that look like that, and carry on because you know it's not that. You wouldn't relax if it looked like you had killed someone when you hadn't.
I'd interrupt and bring the conversation to English. I'd gain some context of their relationship. If I didn't like his intentions I'd speak down to him until he looks like a pussy to her. If I determined that she was interested in him, then that's something to be dealt with.
I actually believe that it's a little unrealistic to expect that your partner will never find someone else appealing. Sometimes you meet someone who is kind of hyponotizing to your attention, and you indulge it just a little bit, to feel those good feelings of back when you could explore exciting new connections. But that little bit is tiny. Seconds, even. It's just a nice feeling to encounter someone who is your type, and you're theirs and it's clear there's chemistry. But you love your partner and your love for them is far more important than any of that bullshit. If you're someone of integrity you wouldn't throw away someone else's heart and your damn soul for a flirtation. It's not worth it. You've already got something better. And that chemistry exists between you and your partner, too. That's how you got together. So you already have that, and something better on top. End of story. If someone indulges that feeling too much then it means they're able to be seduced. Their own conviction doesn't prevent them. It's only circumstances or the lack of persuasiveness of the new connection that holds them back. In this case it seems like it was the circumstances. The boyfriend was right there. If they didn't have a code language to speak in the circumstances would've been even more restrictive.
This shits making me angry just simulating it in my mind. Lol
Listening to too many of these is gonna give me trust issues
Follow your gut because the torment never goes away if you ignore it
The leg pat seems dismissive, like the pat you give a puppy or a car when it brushes up against your legs. Also, check up on the history of this chic and dude, it doesn't seem innocent to me.
If A car brushed up against me lol I'd be patting the drivers jaw with my ✊ 🤗
The leg pat was a , oh damn I've not shown him any attention , quick pat his leg so he doesn't get suspicious
Fuck sakes hahaha
I think she was using the language barrier for some sort of twisted sexual fetish where she can say whatever kind of perverted shit she wants to, and the boyfriend just sits there clueless. It's pretty evil. And I guarantee she would never come clean about it. Women hold on to that shit like a trophy.
I know I cant be the only one who listens to bill talk about women & relationships & it makes me realize how fucking pathetic my ex gf was hahahah spot on shitty person, and I relate 10000% to what bill said about 'your gut doesn't lie' !!!
These days lots of women weren't taught how to behave. So a lot of the duty falls on men to train women because the women are unaware of all the problems these incidents cause. If this is a young woman, she may be able to be rehabilitated. But he should put his foot down and explain all the problems and the position this puts him in as a man. This is a big deal and should be treated as such. If it is an older woman, he should move on to another woman because it will be too much trouble.
It is not uncommon for women to gravitate towards the higher energy and good feelings guy in a bar situation because they are just following their emotions. This other guy basically pulled an AMOG move of hitting on the boyfriend's girl right in front of him. This causes the boyfriend to lose status and turns on the girlfriend who is excited by the new attention.
The better question is what to do in this situation? It is difficult for guys because their immediate response is to be defensive. Since the issue is that the girlfriend sees the other guy as higher fun energy, I would recommend the boyfriend up the ante in the energy department. Three ways he could do this in a bar.
1. He basically takes her to the dance floor with a big positive emotion of this is my song, sorry but I have to dance with my girl and march her off caveman style with no opportunity for refusal. Who cares if the interloper understands him or not?
2. He starts mocking the AMOG in his girlfriend's ear by giving him back the AMOG treatment. You can just assume the elephant in the room and say stuff with a laughing manner of Is this dork really trying to pickup my girl or Are you really trying to fuck my girlfriend? It doesn't matter if he can't understand the language, he will understand through nonverbal communication. And you can follow up with things like Why can't you get your own girl? It isn't hard and so on. How about that girl over there? Or you just say these things in your girl's ear with the aim being to get her to laugh and thereby sabotaging the conversation because you are bringing down his status in the process. Force him to have to qualify himself.
3. If those fail, he should start flirting with the female bartender or another woman that is within earshot of his girlfriend. This should get her attention and break her out of the good feelings spell. If she doesn't pay attention to that, she isn't the girl for you.
After the incident, even if he did the above, he would still need to have a sit down with her and explain what was going on and how emasculating this situation is and how it can't happen in the future because of all the risks and questions it causes in him about their relationship.
They are very aware they just don't care
OldHickory12 That's pretty solid advice for anyone to be the more dominant person in those types of situations, but I honestly, as a girl and a fairly young one, can assure you that the woman involved can perfectly asses what's going on, and is just acting naive. Of course there are exeptions to the rule, but not plenty. I would also add that this type of behaviour would be rude towards whoever she was sitting with, just a female friend for example who doesn't speak the language and is completely excluded from the conversation. Inexcusable.
Going to the bar as a a couple already sounds stupid. It's like going to a brothel that serves free beer as an anti-alcoholic person.
1. Always go with your gut
2. When in doubt RUN
She knew exactly what she was doing. Passive aggressive activity meant to make him jealous, while letting him know that this is who she really is if she ever made this trip alone in the future. He should have excused himself to the bathroom and just left, packed up, flew home, packed his stuff and moved out.
Guys please think with your head 👍 stay strong kings 👑
If this happens to you record the conversation
next time record the convo and get it translated by a french expert .
sneak level -100
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I would have gotten up and spoken to her friends 😁👌🏻
As soon as I saw something sus going on I’d start recording the conversation on my phone and literally pay a bilingual person (just go to an international hotel to find one) to translate for me. The fact he couldn’t understand what was being said makes this situation so messed up
ahhh situations like this are not easy. I mean, this did not sound good. But it´s easy to sit and say that he should just dump her. But dumping someone you believe in because you had a bad feeling one time, will probably feel more wrong. I have been in similar situations. And it ultimately created such and eerie mistrust that i ended up ending it. And i´m glad i did. Makes me uneasy to hear about stuff like this.
If she was talking about her dog aaahahahahahahaa
God damn
Doesn't matter if he was drunk or not. Their is no such thing as OVERREACTING in in a situation like this. He should have confronted her right away whether drunk or not. SHE'S at fault here, not him. So she deserves a grilling. That's a stupid and disrespectful move on her part.
Honestly bro... living in Québec and if you're dating a french girl the culture/language divide will always be an issue. It's often better to stick with your own.
We never laugh lol
In France this isn’t too strange. It is annoying though I’ve been in a similar situation. French guys have no boundaries either on the whole they’re all like teenagers lol
Coul is ass. If you wanna learn French use your girl. Get lessons even if you was the highest level in tests immersion is still hard.
Id always be skeptical of some one spending a ridiculous amount of time talking to some one they don't intend to ever see again as its just a massive waste of time so that already would give me red flags
A minute in I would leaned into my girl and said wrap this shit up now we’re leaving
ATLien n lol facts
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liam nickson LMFAO I heard the fart just as I read your comment
Bill stepped on a mouse....
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@0:26 😂😂😂😂
Always trust your gut
Never take her back to her hometown / country. That's where all her crushes and ex's are at 🤣🤣🤣
He should have just asked in the moment what were they talking about, with a polite but very subtle psycho tone, just to hint that he was uncomfortable, and increase the level of agresiveness if they didn't catch the hint, until they do.
She was clearly enjoying the attention and vibing with that guy. After 4 years, not that surprising.
Real problem is her lack of respect/consideration for boyfriend. And I could only see that getting worse... unless he somehow manages to power up.
Turn your phone mic on record. Leave your phone next to then And record the conversation. Then have it translated.
I'm sure he is hitting on her.
Smart
He's never heard about the Hippo and the zebra
She's playing him
Rule number 1 of taking your Ladeeeee to a bar or club. Talk to other women. It's a game. Play it.
Somthing similar happened to me and I never got over it.. she apologized to me after and said she didn't even realise she did it.. she didn't know what came over her and she would never do anything like that again.. ?????? you have to wonder,, if she did that to you while you were there,what happens when your not there....?? That was the question in my mind that finished us.. No trust after that..
I fell you man. I have been in similar situations. Created such an eerie mistrust that I had to end it. and im glad i did
Walk dude
This whole thing is sketchy, but the most incriminating part was her insistence that she was talking about her boyfriend the whole time. I could believe that she was talking to a co-worker about random things, but if she really was talking about the boyfriend, why did she never look at him or introduce him or get him in the conversation? At best she is just fucking rude which is a good enough reason to leave her.
She may or may not be in the wrong, but that other guy who was with her at the bar definitely was, he knew what he was doing. Basic rule of life- if it hisses and bites, its a snake. - what you have to do to guys like that is serve the awkward right back and engage him- pat him on the shoulder in a patronizing manner, wink him, stare him down a bit, serve that awkward sauce right back
Takes a level of confidence I know I'd have to build up to
Apart from the guy budding in on the table for 2, its just severely impolite to alienate someone in a convesation by another language. If you care about someone, always try to include them when you're together. She knew what she was doing, evident by the crying on the way back. Good riddance.
LOOK AT HIS FACE
My ex shouted at me for being annoyed when we were at the bar with her friends she kept on going on about how good looking and hot this dude in her class was.
Girls like that, run a fucking mile.
Its weird. I was with this girl for a couple years and she'd get hit on by everyone whenever we went out, and it never bothered me. We even made it a little game when she knew exactly why I'd ask her to get to leave the table or whatever to get drinks. I'd see her turn heads and guys just start conversations I knew what was about on her way back. Then we'd laugh about it.
I was never once jealous while with her. Other girls and even girls I was interested in but had no investment with I have been jealous around. It was mostly because I was in a bad place and knew in the back of my mind i had no chance with them to begin with.
But long story short, a friend I found out had been knocking me down at every opportunity behind my back knowing full well that I'm trying to get somewhere with this one girl, and long before I knew that I wanted to smash his face in whenever he was around, but didn't know why precisely.
But...I knew our friendship was over when the girl began bringing up embarrassing stories that only he knew. So the next time I saw him I asked about his sister and how she's doing...and I said at the end "so you're saying I should have banged her before she got all coked out then?" At that point I made him aware of the fact that I was aware of the shit he was doing to me.
It was really stupid shit I'm not proud of in any way, and is why I also don't talk to girls that are connected to people I know.
What a fuckin douche bag your ex friend is
Remember when your mom had company over and gave you that "look" meaning: Go to your room? Thats how marriage works, subtle hints should be enough, unless she doesnt respect you..
Wait till next morning? Bill are u insane? I wouldve broken up with her right then and there
jamie lanster stfu virgin
You'd break up with a 4year relationship because she had a 10 min convo without you? Do you require 24/7 attention from a girl.
Voulez-vous coucher avec moi?
Oui..
Leave that greasy french fry, they are bad for your health anyway..
The girl's dick move is not talking to the guy, it's not including the bf in the convo she didn't even think that the bf doesn't understand shit there and would like to join in. She just chatted away not even sparing him a glance and continues on using speaking deep french not taking the initiative to speak in english or on a pace her bf understands. Maybe what they were talking about is harmless, but the way she treated the guy is unacceptable in a "Serious" relationship. Still, unless she does this on multiple occassions the bf should endure if he feels that she's worth it.