2023 Sony X90L vs Hisense U8K, TCL Q7 Side by Side
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The bad upscaling on the TCL is a deal breaker. I watch a lot of RUclips and Directv and the review from RTINGS also confirms with other reviewers findings. Sony is the king when it comes to color accuracy and 1080p and lower res upscaling.
I saw the X90L in a demo versus at an expo. This TV is slept on, it is very good & I am waiting Black Friday to catch it
Excellent information Fomo.
That and your previous videos really helped in my search.
75 inch X90L on Black Friday for our home. Thanks
When a handful of reviewers experience failures on a particular make & model, I don’t take it lightly as panel-lottery. I think it speaks volume about QC and future reliability. Store exchange would be a huge hassle since for a 75” I’d be dependent on pickup & delivery. It’s too bad since I have my eyes on the QM8 and U8K. So it’s looking like X90L for me and its lesser blacks.
Thanks for the very informative and entertaining videos, FOMO. When I ever do take home a new TV, you would’ve played no small part in the decision process.
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The think I notice consistently with Sony tvs whether it be LCD or OLED is that they try to balance the image out to give you as much detail and information in the image as possible. I have a Sony X900h and that tv still looks great with everything you throw at it. Other brands tend to swing too hard into brightness and the image ends up looking washed out. But when you see a Sony tv they tend to have this balance in image quality that makes the image have depth and clarity which translates to picture that looks like you can reach across and touch someone in the content.
i have the 85 inch 900H and i love it, i was thinking about getting something smaller as we may be moving into an apartment soon, trying to figure out if i should stay with sony or try something a bit "brighter" tv because all i watch is sports on cable
@wgwrigel1 I would look into a Samsung to be honest. The QN85 series or if it's still available the QN90B. Samsung's screens tend to be bright as hell. I would also recommend vizio at 85 inches the their J01 tv seems to be big and bright.
@wgwrigel1 I would recommend Hisense, but they tend to have weird ghosting issues with their tvs. I guess TCL the new 8 series could be a good option too.
@@wgwrigel1 Go with smaller tv from Sony but go higher up in their lineup. So like the X93 or OLED. Maybe even go with the X95L.
@@truthseeker5079 If he loves the Sony TV why change brands based on one picture quality metric? Literally every brand makes a brighter model than the X900h including Sony. The fact that he wants a smaller tv would give him room to move to a higher end Sony TV. Every brand makes very bright tvs now. I think buying one over another based on brightness is kinda dumb when anything over $1,000 is hitting 1,000 nits. It’s not all about brightness. Image processing plays a big role as does UI.
Wow. That sony is something special. Was sold on the U8K for a while but this has made me realize sony just cannot be beat.
I have a question regarding the upscaling. I noticed that you mentioned you have tried RUclips tv content. When you use a Shield TV for steaming and turn on A.I. Enhanced upscaling does it mess up the content on u8k and the Q7 as well as the U7K.
I've been watching your channel and other tv enthusiasts for years, and consistently what I notice is that Sony tvs are not the brightest or they might not have the highest specs, but what they lack in specs they make up for in image processing. I can't even explain it but when you watch a movie on a Sony tv it hits different, there's a 3 dimensional look to it. There's an image depth that other tvs don't pull off. It's a balanced image the highlights pop maybe not the brightest but the still pop enough, the blacks are deep maybe not the darkest of dark, but there's details in the shadows, and the gradients in color preserve information that gives your brain more to work with.
Q7 at best buy 550 for 55 inch right now. Very happy with it. Watched nice guys with movie mode today.
its all personal preference.. but one thing i noticed with every content that was played here. the U8K has a green tint. as if someone put a xray film over it.Q7 looks washed out sometimes. Sony over all looks better..
The Sony looks shaper and clearer throughout the whole of the low bit rate content. Its odd that fomo isnt pointing it out. Seems to be a pair TCL add.
QUESTION: Mr. Fomo, your video comparison here shows three 65" TV sets. The U8K uses a VA panel at that size. Therefore, it is no surprise that the VA panel TV set has "Terrible Viewing Angles," just like the TCL QM8, TCL Q7, Sony X90L, and Hisense U8K at the sizes of 55" and 65." However, the 75" version of the U8K uses an IPS panel - which means the Hisense 75" version should have excellent viewing angles. What are your thoughts about this?
Hey, I install for churches, I have watched your video on 100 inch and other video. I like them helpfull. Any recommendations?
So what exactly is the issue with the black bars on the sony? Is it because of some bloom or do you not like them? There's normally black bars on most movies nowadays depending on where you watch it from. But curious on why do you not like it? Thanks.
I like your madness and passion buddy. Keep going. Good Wishes!
I've been using the X90L since December 14, 2023. I am thrilled with its SDR and HDR10 performance. However, in Dolby Vision Dark with HDR Tone Mapping turned off, the X90L's light output resembles my previous plasma. Unlike other displays, the X90L allows me to change these settings during Dolby Vision playback. Wen Adv. Contrast Enhancer is off whether in Dolby Vision Dark, Dolby Vision Bright, or Dolby Vision Vivid, the peak light output is lower than during HDR10 playback regardless of the HDR Tone Mapping setting. Setting Adv. Contrast Enhancer to High whether in Dolby Vision Bright or Dolby Vision Vivid is the only way I can achieve peak light levels similar to HDR10. Which HDR Tone Mapping setting is least likely to clip details in bright scenes during Dolby Vision playback with Adv. Contrast Enhancer set to High? Brightness Preferred, Gradation Preferred, or Off? Is the peak light output during Dolby Vision playback supposed to be dimmer than during HDR10? If so, then I'll accept Dolby Vision Dark with HDR Tone Mapping and Adv. Contrast Enhancer both set to Off. However, if peak light output is supposed to be as bright as HDR10, I think finding the settings which maintain details in bright scenes during Dolby Vision playback is how to go about this unless or until Sony corrects the Dolby Vision light level issues via a firmware upgrade.
I'm not convinced you have your U8K calibrated properly. Dolby Vision content doesn't look anything like that for me.
Fantastic video. I'm definitely getting the Q7 65 for $700. I really wanted the QM8 for $1200 but ehhh i'll tkae the savings. I have a 55 LG B6 currently and my panel is losing colors and have some grey lines on the tv. I will miss the wow factor of OLED like my buddy has the 55 C2. But i can't justify the $2k for a 65 C3. Thanks for all your videos
Have the QM8 upscaling sharpening issues or EOTF tracking been fixed yet or any word on them from TCL?
Sony showing it still has the best processing to compensate for more dated hardware. Yeah its not mini led and its dimming zones are massive but thet know how to preserve detail and movement
3 hour for tv review
I love your dedication mr fomo
I absolutely HATE the OS in my new SONY top of the line 65" ... the video is fantastic ... I purchased this after my 1 year old Hisense would not power on ... I will NEVER buy a Hisense ...
Excellenct information overall the best reviews i have ever seen keep it up bro👍🏻👍🏻
I bought the U8K last week and it had pretty bad vertical dirty screen bars, very noticable and I tried the exchange once and the second unit was the same so finally I just paid the extra money and bought the LG C2 and it's amazing pic and no DSE.
My Vizio from 2017 has some DSE too. Sometimes it’s pretty distracting. You mostly notice it with sports and video games. After 6 years it’s developed a hair line crack or line of dead pixels so later this year I’m looking to upgrade to a Sony. I’m looking at either the X90L or X93L if it comes down in price around the holidays and if I have the extra cash to pay more.
Pity oleds look artificial 😢
Saw the X90L at the shop yesterday. Looks amazing!
Will buy the X900H for the low price though.
remember the 4k 120hz has a blur problem .
I have two dark spots on my x900h after 1 year.
X900h is bad tv
Ur tv good
Hi FoMo, love your reviews as always. I think the Sony is the winner here. I would love to see and am waiting with great anticipation for a comparison between the Sony X95L and the Hisense Uled X both in 75". They are both coming soon and I'll be choosing 1 of the 2 based on your and my own reviews. Keep up the great work and I'll be waiting for this comparison.
Make sure if the --Film Maker mode is on , then the ULED X might look mushy. It’s NOT good. Putting FF on, when side by side with SONY, cuz it looks washed out.
I don’t think I can ever bring myself to purchase a Hisense. Whenever I heard about them growing up it was associated with low quality. Same thing for TCL but TCL is perceived to be a more reliable company in America.
Ironically, TCL is now selling flagship miniLED LCD panels for Sony and Samsung to build their most expensive TVs - it's just a matter of time.
@@stopthefomowow!
@stopthefomo loving all your videos. I'm sure you answer this all the time but, do you have videos dedicated to your calibrated settings like quantom tv. I don't mind paying a subscription service to get those. I mainly stream 4k movies, watch 4k nativ3 Blu rays, and 4k RUclips and sometimes standard youtube.
Hey FOMO, can you also include a DVD/standard Blu-ray app convert test through UHD/DVD players, I have noticed that 480 PDBD is a lot more stable than 480 P streaming, and maybe TCL and hastens can benefit from that as well Sense players like the Sony and Panasonic can app convert DVDs and Blu-ray is pretty good with just about any TV
Booked 55X90L yesterday. Excited to experience the viewing once its delivered. Thanks for your indepth analysis.
So tell us more on you're review of you're purchase
Considering purchasing the x90l 75" this week. Please let me know your experience with this TV if you don't mind. Thank you
This TV is just brilliant. The motion handling and color reproduction is best in the segment. I think it even beats so called "Mini Led" TVs in the similar price range due to excellent picture reproduction by Sony which is class leading. You'll see accurate colors as intended by the content makers with full control over picture settings. It was ticking most of my requirements so, I went with it. You will definitely won't regret it. @@CryptoJourneyKs
How’s the tv sir
@@Cons2911 Its excellent so far. No issues whatsoever. Color and motion is just brilliant and better than the competition in similar price point.
Oh dang! Was this a stream? I missed it. I would have asked for the starfield test. 😁
I have the 2021 Samsung q60 85", looking to get a better tv, was thinking about a better Samsung of the same size, do you think I'd be better with the Sony x90l?
Along with the black bars I would add the captions are also very bright and add bloom all the time. I have a Sony 950G and got tired of the bloom in the captions especially in a dark room for movie night or when I’m gaming. Seeing the LG C2 do so much better in this regard was really nice. I don’t have the cash for the tv so I went w the u8k. Hopefully it delivers.
What is your impressions about u8k performance with black bars, blooming?
I agree with one of your viewers, the U8K seems more extreme with the colors. I have seen a few reviews of the U8K and the colors seem not to be as "natural" looking. Glad I saw this video. I was not considering a TCL, but now it makes my decision a bit harder.😁
Had the U8H, great tv, but had to return it due to the terrible upscaling.
Do you think the tcl Q7 is better than the tcl R646 when it comes to performance & visuals in console gaming?
Hello FoMo, How does the Sony X90L 98" compare to the Sony X92 100"?
I just got the 65" U8K for $1099. Very happy with the TV.
How is the motion handling? I am interested in using this as a TV/PC Monitor for gaming and media.
@@The_Dude_Abides117 horrible even newer u8n is bad
Excellent comparison of pears to apples to oranges. The 65" TCL Q7 is currently $699, the Hisense U8K is $1099, TCL QM8 is $1199 and the Sony 65" X90L is $1399 @ Best Buy. Picture quality to dollar value the TCL Q7 and QM8 are the hands on winners!
Sony will last longer, even if you change 2-3 TCL tvs. Longevity counts.
I agree. 75" q7 is $1000 right now. Huge value for what you're getting. I got the 5 year warranty so for 5 years I'm covered.
Yeah Q7 looks good bang for the buck especially at 75". However, one thing is Hisense and TCL are horrible at upscaling.
@@TVEXPERT.Co. I have a 48" TCL that is used as a PC monitor and is on 12 hours a day with zero problems. I have a Sony X900E that is 6 years old. I've spent countless hours of updates and working out the bugs with the Android interface. The TV makes popping and cracking noises after it is turn off for hours on end. Swore I would never buy another Sony. Yet I bought a Sony A80K which I will be returning to exchange for a Sony X95K.
@@vwccrlinedang. What didnt you like about the a80k? Also the x95k is a beautiful tv!
Just wondering if it's the same as here in the UK to the US, I've been looking at 75 x90L and 65 x95L or LG c2 65 but noticed the Sony's both come with 5 year manufacturer's warranty and the LG just 1 year which seems to be the same for Samsung and Panasonic
Samsung neo qled 65inh qn90D &
Sony 65inh 90l
Which is the best TV.....?
Hi Fomo, I live out side of Pittsburgh. My TCL M8 85" will arrive Aug. 8th however Best Buy no longer provides professional calibratings. I checked for a Calibrator in my area. What do suggest I do. I called a VideoTeck store, they said TV are so close out of the box that they no longer provide the service. I would have bought it from value electronics except that the chances of a bad display. Not to mention I dont have atruck to pack it in and send it back. HELP Please. I wonder how many folks are in the same boat I am in. Thanks, it's fun watch you and your reviews .
Fomo I'm thinking about q7 over the sony x90l what you think I'm heavy on media consumption and RUclips tv over gaming
after our samsung Q6 broke down after 28 months, tech tested and showed the screen was bad, we are using the bedroom hisense till we can find a replacement for the large tv.The hisense keeps going back to menu from a movie , freezing, volume is horrible. Tried resetting but still have same problems. I am looking at sony or Lg
So if i have an x900h which one u think is best to upgrade too. Not just these but in general. Non oled. I dont have time to watch 3 hours worth of content 😅
Mr. FOMO, great job yet again. Question for you - What would you suggest for this use case? Q7 price range, wide angle viewing, mostly watch sports and sometimes TV shows via a streaming service that generally sends 720p (sometimes 1080p) content at 30 or 60fps. The Q7 looks great other than the narrow viewing angle.
"wide viewing angle" means nothing in the Q7 price range - you'll have to upgrade to the Samsung QN85B which has better viewing angles due to ADS panel but costs almost 2x more.
@@stopthefomo FOMO get a U8K fully calibrated and compare it to anything that SONY, Samsung, and TCL has in the mini dot market...Besides motion issues Hisense has the best blacks on the mini dot market after calibration and 99% of the time non existent blooming in a pitch black theater room I have at my house...Those 1008 dimming zones are kicking ass...U8K is ready to compete with OLEDs not other mini dots! It's a shame that Hisense didn't atleast put a 10 bit panel on the U8K or it would be game over for OLED!!!
Decision to make ,my 2019 LG OLED has issues and Best buy has issued me a $1,700 credit. I could get another 65in OLED ( LG c3 or Sony a80l ) but I'm leaning towards mini led ( the room gets a fair bit of light) with the Hisense u8K in 75 in or the Sony x93l in 65" all for around the same price or add $900 in get the x93l in 75"
I have the U8K and I love it!! Very good price point also!! It’s and amazing tv. I’m coming from an OLED as well. And it was easy to make the change!! That U8K is so bright!! Colors pop 🎉
@@aaronmcglamery7984 just got up on the wall yesterday and hooked up. Had a few bugs to work through with the set-up, you know like the cable box going through the receiver, HDMI control excetera but the picture is great I'm actually very surprised how good it is
Colors in the clouds seem better on tcl and Sony. Hisense so bright clouds were lacking the purple tones
The color in Hisense is unreal.
@FOMO when did you first encounter the QM8 Hardware malfunction on the backlight?
it was actually a line of stuck pixels that appeared not the backlight per se
@@stopthefomo okay thanks for the heads up, their was another Reviewer who had a similar situation occur. Might be worth looking into or getting feedback from owners. Anyways great informative video as always, keep it up man!
Would the 55" U8K make for a good dark bedroom TV for $800 right now? Is the LG C2 worth the extra $300 for non gaming use?
I say yes. So happens I just moved my u8g into the bedroom and wife loves it. She finally notices what makes a TV better than another. She noticed the brightness difference immediately over the old TCL 4 series that was in there. You'll love the u8k, just take the time to really dial it in or have it professionally calibrated.
@@TBoogy3 The U8k just got a firmware update and its blacks got even better...I just don't like the fact that the U8k is an 8 bit panel and only does 95% of the color scaling...
Ima get the x90l and just cover the black bars with tape 😂
Is the x93l leaps n bounds ahead of the x90l?? Thank you for your content, the X90l is my choice out of these 3. Hopefully you make my decision between the x90 or x93. I have a ps5, lowlit basement room
It's a step up for colors and blooming control. The X95L is leaps and bounds, not the x93. You can tell the difference though.
12:24 When the player discards the tennis ball, the stutter of the ball is distracting. I don’t know if any TV can fix that.
Im getting sony x90l and samsung QN90b in same price which one do i buy
Need some clarity .. is it just the monitor I am watching this on or my eyes lol but at 1:08:28 with screen pause the X90L has a almost purple haze around the dripping honey. Hisense and TCL ..all black. Ty!
when that x90l 65 drops to 999 and the 75 drops to 1499 it will be the best tv at that price point. I use govee lights for my x90j and it eliminates the black bar blooming problem so on the x90l it will male it fantastic
The lights go on the back right?
@@cxerphax1yes
@@cxerphax1these are just led strip lights correct? Thank you
U8k has a yellow/green cast WB. TLC looks more accurate in terms of WB and colors. $699 was a great deal for the 65" a week ago. I believe it's $799 now.
Get a calibration done on the U8K...It's the best price to performance mini dot on the market...The QM8 can't even complete with the Inky black and non existing blooming after calibration...It's that good...HiSense does need to fix motion on the U8K with a firmware update...But on 4k movies U8K is hard to beat price to performance...I've owned Sony tvs and their blooming is bad for the high prices they charge...I'd love to see a comparision of a Sony mini dot against the U8K both calibrated...Shoot I'd like to see a non bias shoot out of the LG C3 against a calibrated U8K...Truth be told LG wouldn't like the outcome of that battle because price to performance the U8K is the buy...If you can't tell I own a calibrated U8K and I'm not even thinking about buying an over priced OLED anymore!
@@petedetraglia4776is you U8k a 65” or 75”?
@@petedetraglia4776is fomo comparing the u8k uncalibrated? It seems like in other reviews the u8k seems to be blue/ green bias, have you been able to remedy this with calibration? Did you calibrate it yourself? If so where did you get settings?
ar 44:21 maybe it's me, but the q7 mountain does look less saturated on the mountain but the reflection in the water looks like the others?
The u8k 77 for $1499 is a crazy good deal.Buying one today with credit card points.I wish costco sold it and I am wondering if I should hold out. The 77c2 at 2700 with 5 year warranty is also tempting….
I bought my x90l 75" for 1750 very good Deal
Yeah the U8K after calibration Is an unbeatable value for performance, technology, and price.
Costco sells the U8K 75" in my neck of the woods (Canada eh)
Какой взяли бы себе xr-65×95j или xr-65×90l? Но 90l , ещё и дороже на 300$
Looking for a 65" $1000 or less that has 120hz for gaming and streaming movies...the x90l is currently on sale for $1098 at bestbuy and amazon...i want a tv that will last over 5 years thats why i rather choose sony over the other chinese brands....is it worth the price or should i wait for black friday?
Did you end up buying?
@@asole100 I ended up ordering a 75" Sony X90K for $998 from walmart.
75 inch u8k vs 75 inch x90l for basement with only a patio door opposite the tv? Need some help please
Please do the x93l vs u8k vs x90l all in the same plz no RUclipsr is doing it amazing job 😃
U8K looks like it's pushing greens quite a bit in this stream?
Any advice between the U8H vs Q7 for streaming and youtube?
Same question but regarding the u8k and q7 when hdr gaming
Would this be good for a home movie room??
85 " x90L performing for me like a mini led for half the price and I'm loving it! 3200 for the giant beautiful TV and the hta5000 surround system with sub and rears? Until compression and upscaling gets better just buy this. You don't want to pay big bucks unless you go small OLED for gaming
By now, you know I'm trying to choose between the Hisense U8K, Sony X90L, and TCL QM8. During the time of this video, I realize your TCL QM8 was defective and you were in the process of replacing it. I'm trying to determine where the TCL QM8 stands as far as Dolby Vision is concerned. How would the TCL QM8 have done if it was included during your tests between 01:35:16-01:43:45 and 01:56:43-02:02:17? Sorry for posting across more than one of your videos. I completely understand that circumstances beyond your control prevented you from doing a direct side-by-side comparison between the Hisense U8K, Sony X90L, and TCL QM8. Being that these three TVs are similarly priced, do you think the wish for such a comparison is justified?
Does the TCL q7 get as bright as last years 6-series I want to know for tomorrow's sales! By the way great comparisons!!!
I believe not quite as bright. If I recall FOMO saying q7 1000 nits and 6 series 1300. I have q7, and for me it is bright enough.
@@MichaelC_22 Is the picture as good as 6 series?
@@tylerhampton376 Don't know. Never seen the 6 series. I think picture looks great on q7 especially on 1080p and 4k content.
@@MichaelC_22 Thank you. I think I will wait on rtings review first though just in case the 6 series has the edge.
@@MichaelC_22 is regular cable look decent? i watch a lot of sports on TV and the one i have can get grainy and have artifacts
Your video lasts longer than a NFL football game that's crazy I just want to know which one's better
85" Q7 or 75" X90L? thanks.
I ended up getting the QM8 65inch. It arrived damaged from Amazon. I sent it back but they can't get me a new one for about 3 weeks
WOW
Hey Fomo! Best TV Reviewer by far with the comparisons. I want a TV mostly for sports, but also for movies. I know the x90l has better processing for sports but the q7 recently made a firmware update which raised it’s rtings score from 4.0 to 7.5 with upscaling. I read the QM8 is pretty bad at upscaling? Of the three TVs, which do you recommend for sports? I think x90l has the worst picture quality, but still a good TV. Q7 seems unbeatable for the price.
Can't decide between 75" Sony X90L, Hisense U8K, and TCL QM8. What would you guys get if you were me? I am leaning towards the TCL, however, I like the Sony picure better, other than the LED blooming. Any advice?
U8K for sure.
U8k 77 to 85 has great brightness with ads panel for n etter colors
I like all 3 for diff reasons but the U8K has better QC than the TCL QM8 (from what I seen in reviews) but the U8K also has some weird small issues like leaning towards green even if you calibrate it (as seen on one of Quantum TV's review of it), or we seen it have an issue where half the sky was a diff color of blue in one of the scenes Tech Steve showed us in one of his comparison reviews. As well as the small issues RTINGS said they seen with it. As for the Sony well if you can live with blooming, and the black bars then get the Sony if you can't live with Sony's issues then get the U8K.
I have the U8K but the Sony is just as good maybe better?
@@aaronmcglamery7984 I recently bought the X90L, and I don't think you're missing out.. It's a lose lose situation at these prices because none have all the specs that higher priced LCDS have (the QN95C, and the X95L to be specific)
Would have been nice starting out with no or as little smoothing at all, because some people don't like the SOE. The better the processing, the less smoothing would be necessary.
The lack of blooming on these TV's - especially the Sony (except for the black bars) was pretty impressive.
HiSense U8K will crush Sony's blacks calibrated...Why do I know, I own a calibrated U8K 55 inch and it's the closest blacks to OLED that I have even seen. Colors calibrated are as very good. Contrast is phenomenal do to the INKY black. In a pitch black home theater room 99% of the time this U8K won't bloom at all...Black bars are INKY black...Best Tv i've ever own...I've owned several TVs from plasma, to led, now mini dot tv. For $799.99 for the 55 inch Hisense U8K i can't justify buying an LG C3 because the U8K is that good calibrated...
@@petedetraglia4776 Rtings usually rates Hisense as having worse upscaling detail, and perhaps motion, but has yet to rate the U8K. Do you have issues when watching 720, 1080p or RUclips videos?
@@petedetraglia4776hisense certainly does 'crush' its blacks lol
I have the u8g and recently it keeps resetting between my hdmi and home screen as I game. Then when I turn off the game. It keeps turning off the TV then turning on. Any help?
Is Sony proving that mini-LED and a gazillion dimming zones are totally overrated? I'm now considering the X90L for my next TV.
Absolutely seems that way 👍
Also X90L is my favourite TV this year, really love the design and the sound is surprisingly good if you care for that.
Do it
Yes
Excellent review - could you please do a comparison with the A80L? I'd like to know if its worth spending another $1000 for the OLED over this one.
Which one did you end with sir?
@@Cons2911 ended up with 65” A95L - got it open box at Best Buy for $1650. Amazing TV
QUESTION: Mr. Fomo, can you please do a review of this Toshiba 65" TV. I saw it on sale multiple places recently for only $329. I know it is only 60hz. So, I don't expect it to be fully optimized for 120hz Gaming. And I don't even expect the Direct Lit TV to be fully optimized for HDR or Dolby Vision with movies. However, I am stuck in a rut this year. I was hoping to get a 75" TV set this year that was IPS with Mini-LED and an ATSC 3.0 tuner, and two HDMI 2.1 inputs with a separate eArc channel. But, NONE of the TVs have lived up to those expectations for a decent price. I had my eye on both the U8K and the QM8, but both were disappointments. Here's why:
The Hisense U8K 75" made me happy because it is a IPS TV set - which should mean it has very good viewing angles. But it disappoints me because it only has the "8-Bit plus FRC" panel - which by default means it may be able to get away with "Simulating" the 10-Bit HDR, but has ZERO CHANCE of "Simulating" the 12-Bit Dolby Vision signal. I like the way it has an ATSC 3.0 Tuner. But, I don't like the way it has an eArc channel that uses one of the two HDMI 2.1 inputs. This means only one gaming console or PC can use an HDMI 2.1 channel. I have an Onkyo THX Ultra A/V Receiver that has HDMI 1.4 inputs, so I would need both of the HDMI 2.1 inputs, with the eArc on s separate channel. TCL seems to be the only company with enough brains to do it that way.
The Hisense QM8 was very impressive at first. The QM8 has a true 10-Bit panel that allows for the "Simulating" of Dolby Vision. Unfortunately, the QM8 uses a VA panel with, "Terrible Viewing Angles." I don't like that. I also think it is terrible the way the QM8 does NOT include an ATSC 3.0 Tuner. I do like the way the QM8 has two HDMI 2.1 inputs and a separate eArc channel.
The TV sets just don't get it right this year. I will have to wait another year. But, I don't want to be with my crappy 26" TV again for ANOTHER year! So, I'm considering this 65" Toshiba TV for this year, and then giving it away to a family member next year IF either Hisense or TCL get it right in 2024.
What are your thoughts about the quality of the Toshiba 65" C350 TV primarily for Comcast 1080p, 1080p Blu-rays, 480p DVDs and Xbox One non-HDR gaming?
Man…..really?😂
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos, yes. That Toshiba 65" TV looks excellent when you see it. And it has some excellent features. Also, my comment specifically requested the response of Mr. Fomo. Your rude response, "man," displays "poor taste" on your part.
@@michaelzoran you wrote a novel and asked like 15 questions to a busy RUclipsr… At least leave a tip. Have a good day.
@@Burritosarebetterthantacos, you clearly did not read my comment. You wrote the false claim of, "You asked like 15 questions." Go look at each sentence in order to see there is only ONE question mark. There is only ONE question asked. Once again, Burritosarebetterthantacos, you have shown your "poor taste" in communication. You shall receive no tip from me, because tips are earned, not given. The only tip you will be given is that you need better manors.
I knew when I bought my first TCL P607 FALD tv back in 2017 it was definitely a bang for the buck TV. I also have the R617 R625 and R635 their first Miniled TV and all 4 of them are excellent so called budget TVS. It's no surprise to me that the Q7 and QM8 are such good TVS. TCL has definitely stepped up their game. 😊😊😊
I own a calibrated TCL R 615 and it's a phenomenal TV price to performance. I own a calibrated HiSense U8K and in a pitch black home theater 99% of the time no blooming at all. Colors are next to perfect when calibrated and Contrast is also phenomenal due to the INKY black the U8K has. If Hinsense buttons up the minor motion issues it has in a firmware update this TV is so closed to OLED that I wouldn't waste my money on a LG C3. Yes it is that good....
And fluidity? depth effect? better with whom? 😁
I hesitate between the QN85B, the X90K and the X90L ....
Take the x90L
It seemes like the hisense U8K picture looked more washed out compared to the TCL and Sony. Are the adjustments to make that better and closer to the these other two tvs?
yep, that's why I preferred the QM8 HOWEVER this was on early firmware, hopefully things got better since? Although U8K has better upscaling and motion than the QM8, it's contrast is a step behind.
@@stopthefomothank you
U8K upgarded the Mediatek SoC (from MT9615 to MT9818) , TCL using the same SoC from 2021 , (MediaTek MT9615 aka MT5889) - The same SoC Hisense used in their U8H .. Same SoC that caused resolution halving .. in Sony X90E , X85K , J ... Still TCL not able to do 4k 120hz 4 4 4 .. onky 4k 120hz 4 2 2 or 3840 × 1080p @ 120 hz 4 4 4 .. this outdated chip doesnot have enough bandwidth .. TCL should have upgraded to Pentonic 1000 or added an Co processor like Sony did in their X90j to help it.
Also the 9615 SoC upscaling processing , motion handling , ans black gardiation are on the average side.
Can I get 4:4:4 at 4k 60hz? If not it's a dealbreaker for this TV for me. Does the Q7 suffer from resolution halving like the Sony TVs?
I’m looking to buy one of these 3 tvs today or tomorrow. I went to Beat Buy yesterday to check them out.
I stream Hulu TV shows every day. Along with Peacock, Netflix and Paramount. I watch sports every day and stream a movie every night. I also have real 4k UHD Blu-rays that I watch in my Xbox Series X. I do some gaming a couple nights a week.
Cant decide which to go with? I’m definitely into quality picture, up scaling and true vibrant colors.
If you're streaming a lot and watch sports, get the Sony X90L. It may not be the best gaming TV but it does everything else very well
@@stopthefomo thanks and that’s what I was thinking. I was also considering the QM8 but I’m worried it won’t upscale low but content from RUclips, Hulu TV and like Seinfeld on Netflix. I just “feel” like I’m missing out on newer tech (mini led) on like U8K and QM8.
Right now I have the TCL 65R615, I’ve calibrated as good as I can just reading articles online and watching your videos to make minor adjustments. I just want to upgrade from the 65” to an 85”
Hisense U8K in 75 inches is 1699€ and the Sony X90L in 75 is about 2000€.
I dont know which one to Buy , havent seen the Hisense in RL... and not so sure how long it last.
Could you do a side by side comparison between the TCL QM8 and the Samsung QN95C please. I'd love to see how they match up.
Plasma replacement? Last gen Panasonic ST60.
You can really see the difference between the x90l and the other two. Definitely higher quality picture!
The tcl q7 is on sale 65 inch for $699 and 55 inch for $599 im thinking bout buying it
me too, there is no solid review out for it yet tho
@@starch4686 so I ended up getting the 75 inch TCL Q7 it came today and it’s incredible
Where is it on sale for 699?
@@ronjohnson1512 it was on sale on Amazon day and in TCL‘s website I got a 75 inch for $1000 but now the prices are back to normal it will be coming on sale again here soon I was told !!
@@ronjohnson1512 actually on TCL‘s website the 75 inch is on sell for $1300 not bad when the 65 inch is $1000
Fomo please do some edited down versions of your videos man. Would really elevate the channel. I don’t have 3 hours.
Really torn between 75 or 85 Q7 vs 75 QM8.
$999 for 75 q7 or $1500 for 85 q7
Replacing vizio p series
My 75 QM8 is coming in tomorrow I'll tell you what I think
This is definitely the best Q7 review content out there to see how it performs with color, brightness and blooming. While it may be a little behind in some areas, it seems to excel in others and at a fraction of the price as the other two. Seems like the best option for those on a budget.
That calibration though!
Так і є@@TheModeRed
I think you confused the hisense, I see less problems with u8k.
Do you think the Samsung QN 90C is better than these tv's?
Of course.
Yes but it's double the price
So U8K at $800 vs Q7 at $550 - feels like the TCL Q7 wins out or am I crazy
I just ordered a 55” Q7 on Amazon this week. Should get it Monday. I’m replacing a 43” Panasonic plasma tv that I got well over a decade ago for twice the cost. I have a feeling I will be impressed!
@StariusPrime how's the stuttering in 24fps content with motion settings off?
I ended up pulling the trigger on the TCL Q7 when BB had it on sale still for $550.
Coming from a 2011 LG 47LW5788 the Q7 (at that price!) is absolutely amazing.
Is it the best TV, no but for a budget pickup and first new TV in a decade? Perfect. Won't have any issue replacing with a micro LED in 5yrs hopefully
@@sengan2475i bought tcl q7 because of fomo. I returned that crap only because motion was horrible. Picture and black levels great but motion was unwatchable with wierd artifacts everywhere
@@StariusPrime34y76585o4
Any Primeday recommendations?
YES right here ruclips.net/video/DCm8sibRpMw/видео.html
What about x90l vs x93l, Is there a big difference?
YES, X93L is brighter with slightly deeper blacks but X90L has XR Clear (X93L is rebadged X95K so it doesn't have XR Clear) so arguably better upscaling of low bitrate content
@@stopthefomo
Thanks 😘
Shoukd i get the new TCL QM8 or SAMSUNG QN90B ??
What is the price difference?
@@TVEXPERT.Co. TCL on sale 65 inch $1200 and open box 65 inch samsung $1300 ..
@@Derek_Dkickz open box means? Display unit?
@@TVEXPERT.Co. no it means someone opened the box then returned it or it got opened during transport or at wear house .. make your you read the description, it will say open box, but not used !!
@Derek_Dkickz then I would say go for Samsung as long as you have proper warranty and try buy extended warranty too. I don't trust Samsung but if I had to choose between 2, I would choose Samsung.
Can we get tcl q7 vs 6 series?
75q7 or 65u8k?
Great comparison FOMO! 🤓 These are exactly the 3 panels that I am looking at!!
I was leaning toward the U8K or the X90L until I saw this.
I need to replace a Hisense U6F that I bought in Aug 2020 - the whole right side of the panel is going gradually darker - 3 1/2 years is not so great.
(Is that maybe because it hangs next to a window on that side, and I had Auto Light Sensor on?)
I think I'm going with the TCL Q7. It seemed to do better than the other 2 very often ( I hope it wasn't just due to the calibration).
With my bad history from Hisense, and the X90L costing as much as the U8K and the Q7 added together, it's a no brainer for me.
Hope it lasts longer than the Hisense! 🤨
Did you grab the Q7?
Come on. You had cheap Chinese crap with Hisense, and you go for TCL which is the same Chinese crap? Get the damn Sony and grow up.