Sony BRAVIA 9 Review vs Best OLED TVs!
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There's no perfect TV but I think it's fair to say Bravia 9 is truly remarkable progress for MiniLED. Sony sprinkled magic dust on the backlight masterdrive (increase in zones and 22 bit precision) and it is just wonderful!
All this to do a 50% brighter picture over OLED. And still small highlights unfortunately dimmer. 🤷♂️ much easier with self emissive pixels. Can’t believe they don’t offer 97”. They offer poor x90L but not their flagship.
Sony rests on their laurels as a company but when they decide to innovate they definitely come out swinging, I don't think anyone expected a TV that looks almost as good as a $30k mastering monitor and trades blows with OLED in dark room performance.
@@Mike-jm5wt they can do indeed but I’m afraid they will lose the game. TCL is smashing in mini led space and with bigger better models available will definitely overtake that space. Whereas Samsung and LG already get close in processing to Sony, close enough that usually big price disparity doesn’t justify the difference. There will be only die hard Sony fans. I can see Sony selling its business down the line.
@@whitecrowuk575 sony will sell TVs even if profit isn't good, think of how valuable it is to have that Sony logo in front of people day in and day out. Also if the Chinese brands get too good watch governments suddenly label them as CCP spyware like they did to Huawei
The Bravia 9 is literally going to shock the world. It's going to win the King of TV's shootout this year (beating out both OLED and QD-OLED TVs) and that's going to make people heads explode all over the world! Yeah, I just saw it for the first time today and it's THAT good. You won't even believe it when you see it.
Bravia 9 is crazy expensive in the UK., the 65 inches not available, while the 75 inches is considerably more expensive than in the US. As a result it is going to be out of reach for me and the majority of video enthusiasts. Sony’s marketing policy is alienating its own potential customers, congratulations Sony!
no 65 in Australia either.
Mate the uk fn sucks ! Everything is priced ridiculous! Does my heed in seeing the prices in usa .
The 85 inch B9 is only 500 quid more than the 75 inch.
@@busterboy7507 wait for a sale next year mate. I paid £3300 for my 77inch c1 , put it up for sale at £1250 - these bigger tvs are hard to shift both private and in store here in uk .
@@busterboy7507 I've just settled and bought the 85X95K.
The tv is pretty good and I don't need to worry about abl ( or to a lesser extent burn in)
I would never go back to LCD no matter how good the backlight is... The brightness is not everything. Nothing can beat the OLED until theres a better pixel level LED tech...imo
Bedroom TV not living room forever me
I just received my new Bravia 9 yesterday and absolutely love it ❤I’m a SONY man and always get the new model. I haven’t messed with the settings yet but thank you for the recommendations. Love ur videos 😊
Do you have the A95L if you are a Sony man! How does the B9 compare?
@@gosman949 hah. same question! again! :)
Im curious how it compares to the Z9K in luminance and brightness, which is still a carry over this year.
@@AnythingGoesJoJoBravia 9 has better local dimming with close to 0 blooming. The Z9K does have significant blooming
Have been a longtime fan of Sony myself, having had 3 landmark Sony TVs between 1989 & the Sony OLED we still have now, including a 35" Sony 198 lb. tabletop CRT MONSTER that the TV review magazines, in late 1997 & early 1998, were calling the best TV for squeezing the most picture quality out of the then NEW video format: DVD.
Bravia 9 looks awesome, I think that's my next TV. Thanks for the review, FOMO.
Bravia 9 seems really nice!
I seriously considering coming back to LCD from oled TV in the future!
I’m a LG CX owner and have been looking at the S90D as a replacement, I went to Best Buy to look at OLEDs, walked over to Sony to check out the A80L & A95L, and was blown away by the Bravia 9 that was next to the Sony OLEDs. I never thought I’d leave OLED. If you haven’t seen it in person, please do. It’s REALLY good. Now I’m researching Bravia 9.
To everyone that thinks LCD can’t be as good as OLED, listen to this guy. The B9 is amazing. I’m glad more people are starting to realize it.
My grandmother just picked up the G4, she’s loving it
Try g4, that thing is awesome on multiple levels.
Also watching tv is always better in slight dark environment just as in the theatres.
Did you look at the Lg G4 ? That tv looked incredible when I went this week. I don’t know if the Bravia 9 was on display. I’ll be going back to compare the two.
That sounded like my experience. I was looking at a 8k and the best buy worker was real with me and told me I didn't need it. Showed me the bravia 9 and I was blown away. Did some lricing and found it at sony with my military discount and got the 85 inch for $4700
Hell yeah, bring it on.
Still waiting for my 75" BRAVIA 9😭
I have the 75 inch Bravia 9. you will absolutely love it. My only regret is that I didn’t get the 85 inch.
I have the 75" Bravia 9 and I absolutely love it! Best TV I've ever owned, and funny enough not the most expensive. I love it so much more than any OLED I've ever had, including the A95L!
@@vacguy77 what the? Really. Better than the A95L? How is the sound on the Bravia9 compared to the A95L?
@@gosman949 wanna know the same thing as you... is the sound on bravia9 really better then on the A95L?
@@vacguy77 how would you compare the bravia 9 with the A95L? in what ways is the bravia 9 superior to the A95L in your opinion?
Hurts my feelings a bit to know that the Bravia 9 costs 1000 USD less in the States compared to where I live, but after this video I am convinced that it will be worth every single dime.
I just pulled the plug on the 75 inch one.
I don't think I have seen this much hype for a Sony TV ever.
same i got the exact same size coming tomorrow and im excited
Excellent choice of TVs for this comparison/evaluation! Look forward to watching!
Coming from a 2017 Samsung 60" LCD, I only stream, sports and Blu-ray, NO GAMING and In the tropics with five 5' windows in living room. I also don't watch TV in the dark - minimum is with ambient light. My room size is 13' x 13 - no off angle issues expected. I will be buying the 85'' Sony Bravia 9. This choice is based on the wisdom I got from you, and Brian - consider ones "Use Case". Thanks a million FOMO. Big up yaself sametime!!
I'm excited. My 85 inch B9 arrives next Monday. Your review will help me set it up.
Enjoy! Can you tell me how the uniformity is? DSE main culprit
I have it already, it's great except be prepared for blooming. There absolutely is blooming and it's worse than the TV I just replaced, my 2018 Samsung Q8FN with only 40 dimming zones. Samsung at the time was prioritizing blooming control over everything so highlights were not spectacular however there was absolutely no blooming on this q8fn. Black level is insanely good and I prefer this kind of an algorithm. The Bravia 9 prioritizes blindingly bright highlights over blooming control and it really shows, I see quite a bit of blooming which is disappointing. That said it's not terrible.
@@armylrs2391 ty for the information. Why not go lg g4?
@@TonyDAngelo-ot7ny I've owned WOLED - an A80K and C3 and I did not like either of them. I do not like how WOLED uses a white subpixel. I find it gives the image an inescapable blue push along with diluted looking color production. They also have terrible brightness stability. I like HDR and QLED provides a much more impressive HDR experience. I considered buying a Samsung QD-OLED, but they also have bad brightness stability and no OLED has impressive peak brightness despite the deceptive marketing in that regard.
Every mini led TV will have blooming.
LG G4 with QD-oled panel is my dream TV. Love that LG G4 motion.
The A95L is available and is a better TV if you really want oled.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 still overpriced and last year's processor.
@@alsayedfakhri4597 Sounds good, do you have a link to the 83" version?
@@alsayedfakhri4597No 83 for me sadly on the a95l
That tv already exists its called the Sony A95L
I'm still a touch skeptical, but I have to say I was impressed by the colors of the Bravia 9. It was clearly better in that youtube TV tennis match.
In terms of colours, Sony's TV's usually knocks it out of the park. I bought a ZF9 master series TV back in 2019 and now I can only buy Sony TV's because no other TV is capable of matching the colours of a Sony TV (and they look the most true to life to me). I'm not a Sony fanboy, I don't even have a PS5. I had their first wireless earbuds with noise cancelling, but did not opt to get a new Sony one because they tend to have battery issues (I don't know what it is with Sony and trash batteries. All of their earbuds have battery durability issues and their wireless controllers also all have battery durability issues).
It was in vivid. Hence the colors were being pushed hard. But wasn’t shown TCL, which would match it or surpass it (it is brighter).
Read up on quantum dots but the short version is they convert led light into pure white which then gets filtered by the lcd layer to create all the colors, but because the white is so pure the resulting colors are far more vibrant compared to non QD light sources.
@@whitecrowuk575no TCL advocate has ever answered my question on longevity. I buy a TV to last 10 years, will a tcl be as good in 8 to 10 years of heavy usage? My Sony have always lasted 10 years at still a quality colour and picture.
I am guessing that you never clocked that FOMO had the Sony in vivid mode to try and make it appear more pimped out than it actually is?
FOMO - you should be way better than this. We don't want clickbait - give us accurate reviews sir, you can't claim anything is better whilst completely pimping out both the product and your camera settings.
If you are going to make wild claims - give us the data that backs it all up.
Great video, all information in a compact 15 minutes video. Thanks! I went with the S95D, replacing my old KS9590 LED. Love it! Never had such a clean panel before -with zero banding!
what about that matt screen?
@@gosman949 I like the matte coating! It looks kinda classy and it’s easy on the eyes to watch things during daylight.
Considered the g4?
Bravia 9 looks great. Im happy with my Sony A95K for now and I’ll look into Bravia 9 sometime in the future.
Honestly, if you're rich, the Bravia 9 is the best of both worlds. It has everything i like about LCD with the strenghs of a OLED. AND its a Sony TV, so it also has the best color accuracy and processing on the market. Truly outstanding.
The LG just looks so good.
Very impressed, short and to the point, thanks FOMO. 1 question, why are we not seeing comparisons to the qn95d?
While I am quite happy to see manufacturers improving their LCD and OLED TVs year over year, I think we have long arrived at the point, where the quality of the content is holding things back for more than the quality of the Display. Pretty much the same thing as what we can see in terms of Audio. We have all these nice standards and formats, HDR, 4K60 or 4K120 with high clarity, brightness, contrast and everything, but frequently get HDR capped at less than 500nits or even SDR in an HDR container. Hollywood clings to 24p, thus destroying most of the advantages of 4K or even 1080p as soon as movement is involved or adds artificial "digital grain" etc.
On the audio side, we are seeing Atmos mixes without actual object based audio, just static 7.1.2 or at most 7.1.4 and very little Surround Sound, let alone Heigt effects. In terms of Music, we get all kinds of high-resolution containers with the audio often having the potential of exceeding what humans can hear by several orders of magnitude but the actual recording being dynamically compressed, badly recorded, mushy and not even using the available bandwidth of something like a good old Audio CD.
So yes, modern TVs, AVRs and Speakers are great, but the Content industry is way behind most of the time. Sorry for ranting...🧘♀️
I’ve been saying this for years. Buying $5,000 tvs is stupid when the content itself will almost never justify that. There’s a reason almost all modern tvs look great when you watch Demo footage and footage from HDR Demo channels on RUclips. Then you watch Netflix and other content a d it never matches that. Then you have a lot of directors you think the world looks dark and drab and no tv is going to make that content look better. Look at how Some scenes in Game of Thrones are shot, where it’s so dark you can’t see anything. A $5,000 fake “4,000 Nit” tv isn’t going to do much better than a $800 1,000 Nit TV.
1/3 the price,
YES, i am willing to compromise.
TCL it is.
Some people go out and eat a piece of chicken leg while other people have lobster, buy what you can afford that is the way.
TCL is a Gamechanger so is the Bravia 9
It’s brighter with slightly worse processing. 30% more over B9 for 98”, in few months it’ll be on par with Sony.
@@michael-4k4000 not at all. the briva 9 have more blooming and cost. not good
Holy mess, the Bravia 9 won. Happy Day!!!
I'd take infinite contrast over brightness any day of the week. These OLEDs came a long way. G4 with MLA is extremely bright TV. Still the Bravia 9 is very impressive for a mini led technology
I like the brava 9 I’m saving for the 85 inch
Close too oled and no burn in yeah bravia 9.
I have a 77” LG M3 being delivered to my house tomorrow. I initially had purchased the Bravia 9 75” I’m second guessing my decision. Coming from a very old Panasonic Viera plasma which still has phenomenal blacks in dark movie scenes, I gravitated to the M3.
Sony B9
I mean I kno the oled is the best but the mini led’s is damn close and is brighter and has deep blacks and there’s no worries about burn in I’d rather have a tv that’s bright that I can adjust then a dark tv that can’t get bright enough 🤷🏽♂️
I think the darkness was exaggerated.
@@cherylbrantley4736 the qd oled is beast and so is the a95l
PLEASE HELP! Bravia 9 85" or X90L 98".....This is really a tough one for me. The wow factor of the 98" will be amazing but it appears the Bravia 9 is the best TV ever produced.
Did you mean 98” X90L?
Only thing putting me off the sony is the grey shadowing on the edges of the screen with army of the dead and lucy. Other 2 tvs are clean , the lcd tv seems to have a grey patch when camera pans ? Why ?
Great video. What about Sony A95l?
I'll be honest I'm too poor for any of those so I went with the LG C3.. 65-inch.
But im loving it. It will be my TV for the next 5yrs easy
Good tv, has al the basic options people need for series, console games and movies.
Just a little less bright than g series and different chip set.
Led over oled always the peak brightness on sony brightness preferred tvs is too good to go for an oled
I watch in a dark, light controlled room, but my budget just isn't there yet for a 77" OLED. Was really planning for an upgrade for my 65X950G in 2024 but may have to wait a year. I don't want to have to settle for blooming.
Get the samsung x90d is the best qd oled value for money the s95d is a bit bright but the rest is similar.
LG G4's price is dropping dramatically, it's already lower than Bravia 9, sony need to reconsider the price, LCD higher than OLED is not right! If Sony can not drop the price lower than OLED, I will consider LG G4. In terms of price, it's now actually G4 challenges Bravia 9.
Not in canada lol
Not in my country either. B9 cheaper than G4.
Is down by $1300 in Australia for a 65 inch
In uk both 77” Samsung and LG 40% cheaper than 85” b9
@@whitecrowuk575 40% wow that awesome. I got 65 inch G4 $4294 with 4yrs extra warranty..... usually $5700ish
Excellent stuff, it would be nice if you could compare the power consumption at sdr (same brightness ) (what people watch 90% of the time) of these tv. It would be a great reference for people who live in places with very high power prices.
Power usage is FAR lower on LCD TVs with Mini-LED back-lights than with similar size OLEDs! For example, about any model 65" LCD TV with Mini-LED back-lighting sold today, uses UNDER half the power at the same brightness level that any 65" OLED uses. OLEDs have NEVER been efficient in utilizing electrical power to produce a given level of brightness. A 2019 model Sony 77" A9G OLED we use in our basement theater room, has a maximum power use rating that's OVER 2 TIMES the maximum rated power usage of the 2014 Sharp 80" LCD TV (without Mini-LEDs) that I gave to a friend in Sept 2022, as we replaced the Sharp with Samsung's 85" QN90B LCD with Mini-LED back-lights.
@@mrb0775 wow, I knew oleds were inefficient, but I thought it would not be that different to LEDs due to transmission losses through LCD screen. I always wanted to upgrade to qdoled, but now I am thinking otherwise.
Whats your prediction for the Shootout this year? would you consider REMOVING the Matte Film on the S95D?! or have 2 S95D's. that would be a awesome video. if you would remove the Matte FIlm. ask The Display Guy, if you need help. he knows how to remove the Matte films
The 85inch B9 is my King of HDR TVs this year. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Yhea!
you know hdr is crap right?!
@@grandmasteryoda9893 BOT?
@@ramonzaions7522 not at all. Just know what i takk about. Hdr mode on tv is ugly and useless 99% of the time
@@grandmasteryoda9893 If you have a bad hdr tv yes. But HDR is better than SDR any day of the week
Why compare to lesser brands? Makes sense to compare to a95l
"Lesser brands"😂 Stop smoking 🚬 bad stuff.
@@ADISTOD3MUS the moment he realizes the G4 wins TV of the year at the shootout he realizes the Sony dominance is over.
The best Mini LED vs the best OLED. Damn comparing a Sony against another Sony from last year. That Sony guy seems kinda good ngl 🤧
Thanks FOMO.
Now if Sony would only make a 100"(or 98) version of the Bravia 9
I hate that they only make 98-inch sizes or higher for a mid-range TV.
Nice review! Please make the review of Bravia 9 85 inches, It is supposedly better than the 65 and 75 because it has a greater number of zones and more contrast, and will be much closer to oled contrast.
Thanks!
We have a 7+ old Sony that has been trouble free and extremely reliable. Definitely would look at Sony for any replacement with newer technology.
What about DSE on the Sony? That's why I got a QD-Oled, perfect uniformity!
wat it DSE and DTM ?
@@heikoklose84 DSE = dirty screen effect, the clouding and blotchiness that plagues LCD TVs. I assume DTM = dynamic tone mapping. DTM Off - TV uses a static table to map the input brightness of a picture to the real output brightness it is capable of rather than the static meta data provided by the content. Static meta data mostly tells the screen the minimal and maximal peak brightness of the whole movie / TV show episode.
DTM On - The TV tries to guess what output brightness would look the best on a per scene level based on both the input brightness, the static meta data as well as by analyzing the scene.
@@boomerscs9193 Thank your!
was für ein Oled haben Sie sich geholt?@@boomerscs9193
Was at Best B. the other day and the sales person stopped the B9, A95L, and G4 at the same scene. IMO, yes B9 is brightest and amazing colors (as long as not off angle), but I ranked them in this order: A95L, G4, B9. A95L (last year's tech) had the best colors and blacks.
Hi Fomo, thanks for another video you always hand out great content, but a quick question for you, I’m using the Sony 85j model but interested in the Bravia 9 or the Sony 98” I use a lot for films and streaming no games, which one should I get, this tv is for three years max, looking for 110 minimum Next thanks Oz
Where is the A95L vs B9, my point is Sony is trying to maximize profits by pushing reviewers to push B9, A95L still the best TV
Not for me it wasn't. I returned my A95L after 4 days. It may be the brightest OLED, but nowhere near bright enough for me. The Bravia 9 blows the A95L out of the water as far as I'm concerned!
News flash, not everyone is an OLED fanboy
@Mike-jm5wt It's weird how OLED fans/fanboys are literally everywhere trying to defend OLED. I have a QD-OLED and I'm officially over OLED. This shit is not bright enough and ABL is a no go.
@@DV-ou1yu I think it's because most of them are video gamers and those are some of the most toxic people on the internet whereas LED owners are usually not gamers but rather movie lovers and regular human beings with children and wives and windows in their homes
@Mike-jm5wt Yea, that's a pretty bad take lol I'm a gamer and I do not like OLED like I thought I would, but then again I have a life too and don't have any interest defending a product lol.
I think the best way to put it is they are tech snobs who hate light for some reason or are losers wbo waste time trying to tell you why their preference is king
I promise this is the last time I spam this comment haha... Next livestream where you have the TVs all up, can we see the QM851 compared with the HX3110 with the following changes? Black Level at 48 and/or Gamma at 2.3. Like I posted in the live chat, I think that gets you closer to reference with a bit less clouding/blooming based on some feedback AVS users have posted and my own experience with previous QM850 firmware.
Side by sides mean absolutely nothing - especially the subjective and quite frankly wild way that FOMO chooses to illustrate differences in products. Take them all with a large pinch of salt as so many variables come in to play.
Last year, the 85-inch and 75-inch versions of the X95L model had different display panels, with the 85-inch version having a better panel. Therefore, if you bought the 65-inch or 75-inch X95L, you got a lower-quality panel compared to the 85-inch. How are things this year with the Bravia 9 (XR90)? Does the display quality vary depending on the display size? Are there any differences in sound or other features based on the display size?
I've seen the 85" X95L next to the Bravia 9 and i think the X95L looks better. B9 is too bright
@@matttafakt
If it’s too bright you should buy an OLED😂
Love the videos, just wish there was bookmarking of the sections
Let’s Go Fomo!! I hope you also show content in there cinema and gaming mode with dynamic tone mapping on. Most reviewers only show Prof Mode with Static / HGIG.
I have the A90J and I could upgrade to any display I want and I've been trying to justify upgrading but I can't find any logical reason to do so. I love the picture quality of the A90 and it is bright enough for me. The only fault with it is that white backgrounds are gray which is a distraction and we all are aware why that is.
Samsung got a better panel, but LG has a better image processor. Actually I believe Samsung has a better chip too, but doesn’t have the software power. Sony has 8,000 LEDs, but Sony could not control 8,000 dimming zone yet. But Sony should be able to do that in next year or two.
As always, incredible content. Love it.
I've read on forums about your Genelec surround setup but haven't seen this specific question answered. How does the system fair at your MLP at reference volume? Does it hit 105db peaks? Is it clean when being pushed that hard? I considered getting a system very similar to yours but was always held back because I just couldn't find the answer to this question. My MLP is about 9ft from my mains, 7ft from my surrounds, for comparison.
Hi . Thanks for the review. I have a simple question. Best tv for sports?
Thanks for the comparison. One suggestion for future content is to label the screens as a reference. I was getting lost in what screens was what tv.
As a gamer, the G4 is going to be my choice. But the Bravia 9 and S95D are superb products too. Between the two I'd give the edge to the Bravia 9 because there is no Dolby Vision on the S95D
Still having it it’s worth to say that the QD OLED A 95 L is still a master series and still within its category a popular TV. Even though the newest and latest comparisons is part of your job as reviewer. Because people who bought it at release and saved up money might feel like ohhh so this means it’s replacing every other model
It’s business. Of course they’ll tell you the newer is better. New doesn’t always mean better.
Thanks for the review, but what I really want to know is an 85" BRAVIA 9 worth c. £2K/$2.5K more that the already excellent 85" BRAVIA X95L -- comparison please...
X95L is awesome. Nobody will compare theses two because they look the same. Personally, i think the B9 is too bright
Why no comparison of the major 2? Bravia 9 vs QN90D.....both have wider viewing angles than the competition, the Samsung the widest and still very high contrast. Looks like maybe the best option for a wide seating area, lounge room TV. The Samsung is also a much cheaper option, on sale even more so. I think alot of people would want to see the differences in real content FOMO!!! The QN90D isn't getting much love this year and looks like a solid option, the 98 inch not so much for some people but the smaller sizes don't seem to have any problems from what i've heard. Can you make it happen? 😃
Sony Bravia 9 - 75 vs LG Oled C4 - 77 . What is better to buy?
I have a dark theatre room. Is it better to go with the LG G4 83" or the Bravia 9 85". Is it worth sacraficing the 2" to go with the Oled? Price isnt a concern.
I literally had both of those TV's side-by-side in my dark, well designed room and kept the 83" G4. The OLED black details are more pure compared to the Bravia 9, where the LCD's more purplish blacks are apparent.
Not from I have seen I seen the bravia 9 in person several times in person , the contrast is no were near oled and off viewing angles weren't great , I will take contrast over brighnesss every time and and oled is better by far when comes to gaming . Waiting on the Panasonic MLA Z95A .
You haven’t see it. Run HDR with it and you’ll see it bury Oled
If you don't care about HDR, go for OLED.
@boterhammetpindakaashagelslag Your right I don't
Why do people lie in comments? You have not seen it several times in person. Most stores don't have them set up yet. You are full of it.
I'm trying to order the PANASONIC Z95A in Australia Still got a few places to call with the yes or no answer
Wow, you own genelecs as well? Top-notch choice for movies!
Im really curious to see how the Bravia 9 compares to the Z9K, the Z series has been known to hit 4000 nits without clipping.
I agree that would be cool to see how the Bravia 9 can match up with Z9K in terms of raw luminance output
I know it's a difficult thing to measure and comment on but one of the most important things for me is the quality control of the tv. How bad is the dse at 85 inch? For us folks in other countries who don't have access to Robert to do quality control we have to play the panel lottery and I just had a terrible experience getting a 85 inch screen replaced due to extreme dse, I hope to never have to deal with that again.
Hey, FOMO!
Since the largest set our mantle area can support is 55", would you suggest going with the A95L over the Bravia 7?
Side-lit living room, too.
A95L smashes the b7. You're comparing the top of the line QD OLED to a mid-range LED TV
All I want is 24 fps movies to play without stutter, soap, ABL dimming, Bravia 9 HDR brightness shifting.
Picture quality isn't everything, immersion without distraction also counts.
I disagree when someone says that a particular TV is the "best" or the "king of TVs." There isn't a single best TV for everyone; it's all about your personal viewing environment and experience preferences. For example, when someone claims that the Sony Bravia 9 is the best TV of the year, that's based on their own experience. The Bravia 9 is a mini LED TV known for its high brightness, which is great for rooms with a lot of natural light. But if you're watching in a dark room, you don't need a high brightness TV. In such cases, a mini LED TV might not be the best choice.
In a dark room, an OLED TV is often a better option. OLED TVs provide perfect black levels and infinite contrast, which makes the viewing experience much more immersive in low-light environments. The self-emissive pixels in OLEDs can turn off completely, resulting in true blacks and stunning picture quality that is unmatched in dark settings. So, when someone asks, "What is the best TV?" the answer really depends on your specific viewing conditions and preferences. There is no one-size-fits-all answer.
Hi Fomo!: I’m coming from a 75” Sony Z9D that I couldn’t bring it with me when I moved from TX back to CA (I left it in my parent’s house). Do you think the 85” Hisense U8N or the 85” TCL 2024 QM8 will be somehow in the same level as the Sony Z9D being that the Z9D is a 7 year old technology? or should I save up and wait to get the 77” Sony A95L, the 85” Bravia 9 or the 83” LG G4 on Black Friday? I mainly stream movies and shows on 1080p, watch a few soccer games here and there and play 4k blu-ray movies 2 or 3 times a month through my Panasonic DP-UB820. I don’t game at all. 90% of the time I watch TV is at night. Thanks in advance for your advice! 🙏🏽
With my discount I can get the 77" s90d for $800 less than the bravia 9(75"), would I be just as happy with the s90d? Thanks fomo keep up the good work.
When do we reach TV panacea? For example, a paperclip can’t be improved upon anymore. When will displays hit this point? I would argue we are there already. I own mostly OLED now, and there was an enormous difference when I went from a Sony LCD in 2017 to a LG B7 55” OLED tv. The B7 was brighter and better in every way, and NO BLOOMING! Bought a C9 for family room, then a C2 83” for our theater area, and just recently picked up a Sony A95L 55” for our kitchen area. I don’t understand the hype over QD-OLED, I am sure it’s does better on the tests and brightness and color, but I don’t see it. My family members don’t see it, no one notices it’s even a new tv. Not one person commented on the picture quality. I am not trying to bash QD-OLED. I love all OLED. But the differences are so small now it’s not important that the Picture Quality is technically better, if it only provides a very small level of performance difference when actually watching real content. Back to my question, what does a perfect display need to be and when will we get there?
OLED tries to improve towards miniled brightness and longevity, and mini LED tries to add more dimming zones to try to match OLED. The converging point is probably microLED are some type of self-emissive tech that doesn't burn out and gets bright
@chibbyylol you get it man, nice to see a comment that isn't fanboying and truly real.
@@chibbyylol Is the A95L not bright enough? What about the G4? Or S95D? These tvs can do over 1,000 nits in a 10% window. Since almost all content is mastered in 1k nits or less, why do we need more brightness?
@@michael-4k4000 The 'need' for brightness scales with the growing capabilities of mastering displays and cameras capturing movie footage as well as directors / producers intent. Movies eventually will get more advanced and be capable of capturing 1000 (some even 4000+ nits of brightness, to then the mastering monitors used to edit these footages grow to reach 5000 nits then eventually the displays playing the movies will need that too.
Brightness is a thing here it's really nice to have it and not need it, then need it and not have it.
Thing about TVs is what else is there to improve on in terms of metrics? The A95L already acn display 90+% of rec2020 color space so the wall there is 100% color reproduction....well once a TV can make all the colors...the only thing to improve upon is achieving more and more brightness. There isn't really a 'wall' for brightness, well unless you count the maximum nits say a fluorescent bulb at 10,000 or 1,600,000,000 nits of direct sunlight lol. That could be the cap to it I suppose
@chibbyylol Good point on, it's better to have more brightness than not enough. I had to get rid of my favorite TV Sony Bravia XBR-65X900A a few years ago because it was not bright enough. Was a gorgeous tv, even when turned off. It's going to take many, many years for the 4k nit mastering to be mainstream. Then we would have to buy all new content, and I'm done buying these movies over and over. Blu-ray is excellent quality, and really all one needs. If u remember, the studios never wanted to release 1080p content, they were afraid it would be the end of movie theaters as we know it. Movie theaters don't even offer better quality picture anymore, u just get a super large screen. 1,600,000,000 nits would require a star to generate the screen. You are right. Once the TVs hit 100% of the color reproduction, then brightness is next. So back to my question, what would be a perfect TV? Assuming the TV was able to produce 100% of the colors, is 4,000 nits the end game panacea we all are seeking. Personally I think the iPad tandem oled displays will be the way forward. Those screens are so good, and look excellent even when the brightness is turned down very low.
Really good breakdown.
Fomo, Bravia 9 75 Inch or a Z9K 75 inch on sale. Use case is for an outdoor TV on the deck? Built a waterproof lift cabinet. Will mostly be used for watching sports.Thanks!
75" Bravia 9 is a better TV over all in every way even for sports - put it in Vivid mode for outdoor watching
Saying also that you can only see it in direct comparison because they are all so good is an important piece of information since at home if you are not in a store no one can compare side by side m. And then it’s up to your own preferences and what you feel your tv is lacking
Sony tv is still king of kings...😍😍😍😍😍
That thing cost like my first and second car.
Not worth it . Next year something came out already beating this
@@Yoga_Tv_buying You'll be waiting forever if you keep waiting on the next best thing. Figure out your needs, assess if you need it now or later, access price then go from there
These are the 3 TVs I was between for a new living room tv. I ultimately chose the LG G4 (ordered two nights ago). The reason I chose the G4 over the Bravia 9 was due to better viewing angles (living room with seating from all angles), deeper blacks and better contrast, and faster response time (I watch a lot of sports). I chose the G4 over the S95D because of Dolby vision support, better brightness, and the 5 year warranty covering burn in.
you should have got the sony then for sports. oleds have good response times for games but arent too good for sports cause of abl and stuttering issues. sonys processing alone is a great reason to go with cause of sports
Better brightness on white light but the S95D has brighter colors becuase its a more advance panel I dont think you understand this.
@@vcam-g9h I do understand this and even though the s95d has slightly better color gamut the B9 can display its color volume at a higher brightness for a more impactful picture. I know qdoled is the newer technology but it’s exciting watching lcd TVs with quantum dot layers trying to match oled.
@@EverydayElectronics23 how would you rate the A95L vs the G4 for sports? Sports is my biggest concern. The B9 is out for me for the same reason Dr No mentioned about viewing angles, deeper blacks, and better contrast, so I'm left with deciding between the A95L and G4(77")
@@bcorr42 I would go with a95L all day
Really wish he had thrown the A95L in the comparison as it's still regarded by some to be the best OLED.
I will wait until next year and probably get the Sony Bravia 9 85“, until then more durability tests and comparisons with the new OLED generations will be available and if I get this model, the price should be dropped too. 😎🤘
People buying these top tv's, are u still buying extra smart box for apps like apple tv 4k box?
I still use my Apple TV 4K 3rd gen with my B9 75”. Works like a charm.
Why do you change the settings every scene after saying you're going to put them into their most accurate mode?
It's to help owners understand how different settings stray from "accurate" because most people don't know what these esoteric labels actually do to image quality!
What happens when the TVs outperform the $30k reference monitor?
Is the 98” QM8 going to perform significantly better on the starfield test compared to a smaller size?
Can't wait!!!! Finally a TV that is not better then oled in the dark contrast wise but still kicks oleds ass:)
Great service that Value Electronics has! Would Robert know of someone in Toronto or London Ontario with such services to testing the TV for uniformity etc,plus the calibration? Yall are lucky to have him in the US.
I need to delay audio for a few milliseconds to match the TV box sound with the image on my new 75" B9. I can find the A/V Sync setting but it allows only for three options: Auto / On / Off... but none of them allows me to set a time delay like 20ms or 30ms... Is this not an option with the B9?
Great video
Lg has good contrast in a dim lit room. Does that apply to mla as well? Just like qd oled tinted panel when light hits the panel.
What about seeing numbers measuring Contrast off the panels in dimly lit room aswell? And also measuring contrast of colorful scenes without any black and how miniled measures and how it looks to human eyes.
Oleds don't have high nits at full screen compared to leds. And I want to know if that full screen makes a difference in contrast and 3d pop.
It should since glassless 3d tv are super bright to make the image pop and 3d. So miniled should be a better compromise between 3d tv and oleds.
So in that case i should be buying miniled oreven just led, since most content I watch don't even have perfect blacks or much shadow detail. And with led I would be getting more contrast with brightness. And blooming doesn't even bother me compared to a dim and flat picture.
Love my bravia 9. But the thing I cant stand about any motion editting is the terrible DSE around images at times. I wouldnt even mind the soap opera effect if it didnt alter the image with DSE so badly. I upgraded from an 8 year old Samsung, and it hasn't improved much in 8 years.
I want to know the best for the money 80+ inches preferably around 100" for this year
To be honest, I'll take a good looking tv at 120 inches for the price of those running 80 to 100 inches (over best picture quality).
Factoring everything in, going with bravia 9
I most often, don’t like the “creator’s intent”. It looks dull and unimpressive.
I believe the " buyer's intent" is superior because it can be customized to account for different room setups.
Creator's intent should be the baseline, at least as close as possible then have other modes and settings for the user to customize from there
Likewise with audio, trying to get the most neutral frequency response than EQing wherever one wants
Not sure how you could leave out off-angle viewing from the list of compromises.
Its a shame Sony stopped selling TVs in Brazil 🙁
What are the sizes of these tvs?
Are they all 65"?
Can I have your thoughts on bravia 9 vs z9k pls ?