right? their videos have been feeling so rushed and half-naked lately... like I get that "youtube compression blah blah you can't hear what it actually sounds like"... but at least give us a little taste. with a good mic and headphones you can definitely get an idea if what it sounds like.
@@DaBrute because he probably thought there was something to learn. But instead we nothing more then an ad that didnt really explain what was going on.
all youtube videos are secretly tools to permit drop shipping to unsuspecting viewers. If it was a small channel, it'd be a $5 light up bluetooth speaker, not a $500 theater speaker, but the premise is the same.
I pretty much gathered that since there are numerous products that extract deep, powerful and even efficient bass from a small box and do it far better. This is no innovation.
without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs, this just seems like a standard marketing ploy. the first two might not be something your familiar with, but the third you should definitely bring up. otherwise there is a significant possibility that the price has a placebo effect for you, making you think the speaker sounds better than it actually does.
As the studio engineer for the last 20 years, I can cosign what he saying in that for a Bluetooth speaker. The base is insane. Now I haven’t measured the decibel however I can say it’s on par with our studio speakers that I use from mastering but it’s only, exceptional at base. The high in mid leave much to be desired for though they are above the average for a Bluetooth speaker, but not above the average for a Bluetooth speaker of that size by much.
No mention is made how this so-called negative spring will change anything about the physics of the relationship between the thiele small parameters of the driver and the speaker cabinet. For any given driver and its parameters, there is a limit to what sound pressure level it can achieve without distortion if its inside an acoustic suspension cabinet. No evidence is provided that this speaker changes that limitation. What I suspect is going on is that the qtc is so high that a strong bass boost is provided in the bass frequencies most noticed by most listeners, thus giving the impression that the bass is extraordinary; even though the same could probably be achieved with an ordinary driver, given the proper ts parameters, with the same sized cabinet.
Don't forget adding extra "permanent magnets" around the back of it to counteract the effect of the air compression. I'll bet Brane engineers used to work at Bose, lol.
@@socksumi Yep, there's an older dude that builds speakers out of his garage on here. Recommend talking to him. He makes compact and medium sized setups that get down (like 32hz before rolloff and clear highs) Chris DIYer.
As someone that recently bought one, I am absolutely blown away at what it can accomplish. Would be fascinating to see a larger speaker from them with even more surface area, battery and amplification
There is no point in demoing a speaker other than irl. You are not listening to that speaker, you are listening to the one in your device. You would only be looking at a guy saying "oooh, that's a lot of bass", and the video already established that.
@@JH-lo9ut There is. As much as youtube compresses the shit out of our videos, it just gives us a rough idea of how good a speaker is, even with the compression. Also, what if the guy has studio monitors? What if he has studio headphones? Either way, you can still hear extra bass from a video using your cheap £3 headphones, cant you? What if they don't really have much bass and he is just sitting there telling us that the speakers better than it really is? Even with all these limitations its a key part of the video that can verify whether its good or bad.
@@ncr-is-washed If you wanna hear a speaker/headphones you gotta hear it IRL so there isn't really much to do of a "sound test" through a video, recorded via "we don't know what kind of microphone", in a "we don't know what kind of room", compressed via editing softwares, then RUclips, then played by another speaker/computer speaker/headphones which doesn't sound like the one being tested
@@ncr-is-washed ... if the guy is willing to lie to you about what he heard, then he can also just use his EQ in post to boost bass, or just place the recording mic closer to the speaker. Speaker demos are not "key part" of a video, and that's not because of "yOuTuBe cOmPrEsSiOn" (which you will NOT be able hear), but because you're not hearing the speakers, you're hearing the signal recorded by a microphone placed in a specific spot in a specific room through your own speakers or headphones, which is a set of four filters that drastically change sound EACH. In fact, anyone "demoing" a set of speakers is lying to you through these parameters, whether they know it or not. Speaker demos are utterly worthless and you're kidding yourself otherwise. What is not worthless are frequency response plots made in an anechoic chamber or at least an acoustically treated space, and blind ABX tests for measuring how people perceive them. Those are claims that are verifiable and reproducible. Anything else about the sound is bullshit you can ad-lib. Clamor for those means literally asking the guy to shill harder.
This audio product follows a long time tradition of not breaking physics while still managing to break wallets. It probably sounds wonderful for a mono Bluetooth/plug in speaker that fits nicely in your backpac... eh, car.
In a past life, they were no such hidden advertisements but measurements such as directivity, response curves for various pressure levels, Total Harmonic Distortion (THD), efficiency......
Totally agreed, and I'm a dinosaur from that era too. All that useful, objective measurement stuff went out of the window when Bose came into being LOL!
@@caddelworth Indeed and the situation is similar in many domains of science (including the vast majority of research papers). AI are fed with this insipid soup the WEB is becoming and in return add more rubbish data to the pool. According to me, the near future will likely look like "Idiocracy" or "Don't look up", not even sure Americans will be able to make it back to the moon, unless we suddenly find a way to use the new tools to clean the information mess, stop rights infringements, help real creators and built new consolidated scientific databases.
Specs from the manual: Amplifiers Four class-D digital amplifiers with combined output of over 200 watts Sub woofer One high excursion 6.5" x 9" (165 mm x 229 mm) R.A.D. subwoofer for thundering bass and sub-bass Midrange Two 2.5” (64 mm) midrange drivers provide distinct stereo separation in the mid frequency band Tweeters Two 0.75” (19 mm) dome tweeters produce clear highs and an ultra-wide soundstage Microphones Four waterproof microphones for accurate voice recognition Adjustable EQ Adjustable bass, midrange and treble via the Brane mobile app Aside from it have an FPGA for the DSP, there's no mention of anything special in the manual.
@AluminumHaste In this case, "specs" clearly means "marketing hype." No frequency response or polar response diagrams? I'm out. PS: I also don't want or need any *speaker* that contains *microphones* so that's (yet another) red flag for this thing.
Have you seen that guy on youtube that made a rotary subwoofer? That thing reaches like 2Hz with insane power, enough to literally make cracks in his house walls, it's really cool
A great video going into extensive detail on how a more typical speaker is flawed and then spend no time at all on how the BRANE works around these limitations!
Hmm, a permanent magnet forming a spring, with some electrical thing in it. Put a piece of cardboard on that "Spring" and youve basically got a speaker. You know this kinda reminds me of Yamahas active servo tech, with its negative impedance thingy. Although that one actually has some stuff going on and the speakers I have with active servo do sound fantastic.
I went to "T.H.E. Show" a couple of weeks ago, and saw this thing in person. They side-by-side compared it to Sonos and JBL bluetooth speakers, and it was beyond amazing. That sound is not possibly coming from that little box. With their $50 off show discount bringing it down to $550, I was still not tempted. I would love the speaker, but it's simply too rich for my blood! Looking at a Sonos Move 2 now--was on sale for $359, but back up to $449. Darn it! 😵💫
hoffman's equation makes it clear you have to trade between size, bandwidth and power, _at a given efficiency_. use a more efficient design, get more out of your speaker/enclosure combo. this is achieving the same goal as existing servo subwoofers running in an under-dampened configuration.
@2:17 You said LOUD, but for the rest of the video, you refer to that property as Efficient. So which is it? (From Wikipedia, it's "high output sensitivity". Translation: Efficiency.)
If you want a bassy speaker then you don't want a good speaker. Bass Reflex speakers produce a longer lasting bass reponse that will remove clarity from the sound eventually. Acoustic Suspension speakers produce the best sound but they need beefier amps capable of getting the vibrating surfaces where they need to be. I don't have the money to get neither of those so I use Bass Reflex speakers. BTW, with modern digital amplifiers Hoffman's law doesn't apply - it did apply in 1961 when the only way to get good amps was by using vacuum tubes. Since the Tripath release the TA2020, digital amps became good with nice SNR and low distortions. Tripath was eventually purchased by Texas Instruments. "Laws of Physics" aren't actually Laws - they are models that describe the physical worls as we perceive it. In the late 19th century Physicists were sure they could describe the physical world perfectly - with the exception of a few minos discrepancies. Thoser were the orbit of Mercury, the speed distribution of molecules in gases, the ultraviolet collapse when black bodies were heated and some weird black lines that showed up when a wide enough spectrography of light coming from stars were produced. The first problem (Mercury's orbit) was solved by Einstein's Relativity and the other ones by Quantum Physics. And even after that we still think we live in the in the Newtonian world ... a world where everything can be explained by simple mechanistic relationships. What made the world we live in turn into an improved version of Hell is the ideas propagate by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan: The British PM made us believe there's no society just individuals while the former Hollywood B movie actor simply got a microphone and said "Greed is good". Now we have problems that, if we don't fix them, will end human life on Earth - and these problems aren't linear and escape Math's ability to long term predictions. Meanwhile, we became linear bots who think how much money one has is the only measure of someones value.
3:04 You can read here that a ported box (a box with a hole in it) still counts as a sealed box. This is because the port increases the pressure that the speaker has to push against, when operating near the port's resonance frequency.
I had the fortunate "ultimate base" experience of being less than five feet away from a full grown male african lion during a photoshoot. Ralph was getting a bit cranky and let out a protest growl as if to say, "I've had enough of this shit for one day..." and refused to exit his enclosure when called. My entire 6"2" 235 pound frame reverberated with that growl and everyone else in the studio froze. It was an extraordinary form of physics to experience and almost felt electrically shocking! The handler just replied, "Okay, you're the boss, we'll head home."
If something does break the laws of physics, there will be new papers, scientific debates, and the science world will go crazy! Physics isn't all about truth, sometimes we learn the things that can be proven wrong in future! For example, In the late 19th century, classical physics couldn't explain the spectrum of radiation emitted by a blackbody (an idealized physical body that absorbs all incident electromagnetic radiation). According to classical theories, the radiation intensity should increase without limit as wavelength decreases, leading to the so-called "ultraviolet catastrophe. Another one can be that In 1905, Albert Einstein extended Planck's idea to explain the photoelectric effect, where light shining on a metal surface ejects electrons. Classical wave theory of light couldn't explain why only light above a certain frequency could eject electrons, regardless of its intensity. Einstein proposed that light itself is quantized into particles called "photons," each carrying a quantum of energy proportional to its frequency. This idea was revolutionary and eventually earned Einstein the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921... There are many more examples like these, and that's how science itself changes a lot based on our observations and calculation!
You want bass? Infinity RS4 1990 tower speakers (not the RS4Bs) and put them in the corner of a room. The bass is OUT OF CONTROL and yet it still doesn't overtake the other frequencies when used with other speakers! Insane for 1990!
It would be awesome if these amazing new speakers were actually affordable. I mean i get it, it's breakthrough technology that's very expensive to R&D, but dang, $600 portable Bluetooth speaker? Thats actually crazy.
In order to make base you have to displace a lot of air. One of the most efficient ways to do so with minimal space is a hemholtz resonator. Tuning the resonator to a subsonic frequency alleviates a lot of the group delay problems. Simply putting a hole in a speaker cabinet does not relieve the back pressure. In fact there is a phase delay at certain frequencies down to the resonant frequency at which point the air is out of phase with that hole or event and it actually creates more back pressure at the resident frequency reducing the speaker cone Excursion dramatically. As such the hole or vent becomes the primary dominant source of Bass output.
Those iLoud micromonitors are incredible for their size. I own three sets of them; one for my bedroom tv, one to compliment my mixing/mastering setup and a travel kit when I have to mix at other studios. They are my 'realworld' reference and I use them extensively.
@@mattb4251I have 2 JTR Captivator 4000ULFs in my home theater. 4 18s total, 520lbs of pure, house destroying subsonic bass. 110dB at 10Hz, 125dB at 20Hz. My first sub was an SVS PB-1000 I got on sale for about $400, bigger than that Genelec (although arguably not as good, better value for sure though). I'm willing to bet that Bluetooth speaker doesn't even have as much bass as my Wharfedale bookshelves.
@@tentobeans If you want to learn about how speakers actually work, there are plenty of actually informative videos here from people who acually no what they are talking about not just a guy claiming to know his stuff. No need to humour this video ad if you learnt something you didn't expect to.
@@ashyouknow7420 i don't really care to learn the intricates of how speakers work, but it was a nice fun fact to learn while enjoying a video from one of my favorite channels. no need for hate, bud.
I remember being so excited about my Bose 901s. And it seems like this is a real breakthrough that's got you excited too! I don't do much audio these days but glad to see innovators are still pushing the envelope.
I recently bought a Bose Micro Soundlink. On my first use, I got startled at the Sound emerged from that micro BT speaker. It produced real bass sound. Unbelievable. Also, the battery life is huge (the spec says 6hrs after full charging, but it delivers more). Amazing audio engineering.
@4:40 -- since when has a 10" subwoofer been a "massive" speaker? Most of the touring rigs I've used 15"-21" drivers. One of them had subs where each subwoofer had quad 15" drivers.
@@permanenceinchange2326 I'm running dual 18" subs in my listening room at home. Definitely more than what the room needs, but I have them dialed way down.
I can confirm this speaker is a legit sound bar replacement, you can pair up to 8 in stereo and each one outputs 200 watts on battery. The company has grown immensely in the last year and the X is worth every penny. Cant wait for them to release more speakers that focus on pinpoint directional highs with special electrostatic drivers. Brane isn't just a one off company, they are shaping up to be a true pioneer in audiophile grade portable speakers.
@@ABa-os6wm There are plenty of YT videos that can demonstrate great sound and sound effects. He didn't even try. Could've given a disclaimer about limitations with viewer equipment, etc.
Meridian kick started all of this over 30 years ago with the D600 and still lead the pack now. Despite just about every manufacturer now copying them to eek maximum performance out of small form factors they never get a mention. If you want to hear what amazing really sounds like, have a listen to their current line up.
I’ve had a Naim Mu-so Qb for years and that thing sounds fantastic for being a little 8.5” cube. It does it by using 300w of power amps across 5 drivers, and it’s expensive, but there’s still nothing on the market that beats it for really solid room-filling sound from a tiny package.
What a cool video. Great job in explaining the more technical audio topics in a clear and concise way. We know it's not so easy 😉 Also, now I'm very curious how those speakers sound. I want to check them out!
If you are actually into audio engineering, you should know this video is bad. Because: without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs - it's just (indirect) marketing ploy.
Who ever you are, managing the Lewitt page, ask an engineer before supporting this kind of marketing trash that pretends to be technical. Lewitt makes good products and this type of comment leads to belive that the company is headed in the wrong direction.
software is the biggest reason so many Bluetooth speakers sound way bigger than they are, They make a half decent speaker/box/passive radiator combo and then physically tune out the unwanted harmonics and boost the ones they want. It's alot the reason why its so hard to make small DIY speakers that come anywhere near as close as commercial ones without a programmable amp and the mic and monitoring software for it.
Your explanation was really bad, you say the three factors are "small, loud, and bassy" and then you start talking about "efficiency" being one of the three factors.
I love good audio, I build my own subs for my car long time ago and always used amps that had great control over my subs (DF). Over the time I got used to all the wireless audio options we have and got excited when there was a new invention that brought better clarity/base and so on. I was impressed about the MBP audio, the AirPods and some bt speakers. Not comparable with my cinema system, but still good (so I thought). Then for some reason I connected my nearly forgotten Logitech Z3 2.1 system from 2003 to my MBP and was blown away. What is really happening these days: We got used to lots of not so great sounding speakers and get excited as soon something sounds a bit better than not so great. I will listen to this one when I have a chance, but honestly I don't get my hopes to high. To get great low bass, you need an amplifier with lots of control (Damping Factor), and lots of sub real estate. Bass reflex as here shown helps to get louder, but often you loose a bit of control. Lots of my friends back then used bandpass enclosures or dual reflex bandpass enclosure to get even lower bass with more pressure.
So uh... you going to show us it in action or ramble on about how great of a product a 560$ speaker is with zero proof to back it up? well I just just wasted like 10minutes of my life
Most people today don't know what real bass from a home system is. In my younger days we all had massive speakers with 15" woofers and high power to drive them. I never stopped and currently am running JBL Vertec 4880's for bass and have 28,000 watts to drive my system.
I have a Bose Soundlink micro and it's a very small Bluetooth speaker yet it can play frequencies down to 45Hz with ease. It uses 2 passive radiators and a 1-1/4 inch full-range driver and it gets louder than the JBL Clip. The JBL flip is a little less bassy but it gets louder.
Ellis and marques… just hear the Anker Soundcore Boost… this tiny water bottle sized speaker produces enough bass for most people and also has neutral and clear imaging. People wont be needing more bass than this as the deep and mid bass is quite boosted than the rest of the frequency response.
Wow the sound quality you tested is amazing, and how you tested bunch of speakers side by side like any sane person would. Just mark it as an ad this point guys.
Disagree with most of the comments. Everyone is mad that the speaker wasn’t tested on video. Testing on video is pointless. You are limited by RUclips’s audio quality, the end user’s audio setup, and your recording setup. They do not have an anechoic chamber to accurately generate frequency response curves. Besides, how something sounds to an individual’s ear is much more important than a frequency response graph for the consumer. Edit: typo for accurately
They should label ads or something. And this is a bass speaker -but not a subwoofer. You can use all sorts of different methods to move a cone - but the origin of the sound comes from the speaker cone. A cool new way to shake the speaker cone - does not change the speaker cones range of movement.
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You can’t break physics, you can just find better way to use physics 🤓📝
Wait! you're 40 minutes late.
Rip the original comment
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@@NicoMontoya They even pinned it :/ RIP my luck!
Damn you just said another’s comment louder and it worked
That awkward moment when you realize you're watching an ad that isn't labeled as an ad.
About 10 minutes In?
Welcome to tech "journalism". This is the industry standard. The Verge, Cnet, etc etc all do the same thing.
Sponsor block extension is the answer
Lance Hendrick for coffee, you can watch an entire video without realizing he is selling a product for a company owned by the Breville conglomerate.
@@cheaddaca3532 does that exist?
Thank you for NOT testing the speaker. That really was the best part.
Not even showing what was different.
right? their videos have been feeling so rushed and half-naked lately...
like I get that "youtube compression blah blah you can't hear what it actually sounds like"... but at least give us a little taste. with a good mic and headphones you can definitely get an idea if what it sounds like.
@adnamamedia What? This was a great video aside from not hearing the speaker.
Because it’s sponsored but not flagged as sponsored, which is extremely misleading
RTINGS have already tested the Brane X. Its nothing special... The battery runtime is sub-par. So basicly, this video here is just an ad :(.
The only laws that appeared to have been broken, are the failed morals of hidden advertising.
I feel like I got suckered into an advertisement
I almost liked this comment, but then I watched the whole video
@@sj000if you learned something then you started out pretty dumb.
@@rcpmacif you already know everything why bother watching the video?
@@DaBrute because he probably thought there was something to learn. But instead we nothing more then an ad that didnt really explain what was going on.
he didnt test the thing, he didnt open it up, nothing
remember people, this is an ad
THis shiet is SMART
all youtube videos are secretly tools to permit drop shipping to unsuspecting viewers. If it was a small channel, it'd be a $5 light up bluetooth speaker, not a $500 theater speaker, but the premise is the same.
Thanks. I'm going to skip this video.
@@tamascoleman in India Religion does that
I pretty much gathered that since there are numerous products that extract deep, powerful and even efficient bass from a small box and do it far better. This is no innovation.
without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs, this just seems like a standard marketing ploy.
the first two might not be something your familiar with, but the third you should definitely bring up.
otherwise there is a significant possibility that the price has a placebo effect for you, making you think the speaker sounds better than it actually does.
As the studio engineer for the last 20 years, I can cosign what he saying in that for a Bluetooth speaker. The base is insane. Now I haven’t measured the decibel however I can say it’s on par with our studio speakers that I use from mastering but it’s only, exceptional at base. The high in mid leave much to be desired for though they are above the average for a Bluetooth speaker, but not above the average for a Bluetooth speaker of that size by much.
yeah, this whole video is nothing but a clickbaity advert in disguise
its bass role of is at 150 hz Hardy Sub Bass
When the first statement was "This speaker breaks the laws of physics", I thought, "Oh, someone doesn't know physics... or speakers."
Exactly, there isn’t a single Frequency response even on their website. They just claim things, no data sheets.
I was waiting for a audio sample of the speaker so that I confirm its bass while watching this on my phone.
Perfect inside joke!
Right, this speaker is so amazing, it makes recordings of it sound better.
I call this an advertising. That was a complete "trust me bro" test product.
well, the video description is basically a shopping cart.. what else were you expecting?
the only thing broken here, is the trust I had in this channel's titles.
Marques: Ellis, we gotta limit the rants on Waveform.
Ellis: I will not be silenced. (Studio video birthed)
lol I'm glad
instructions unclear, I bought the speaker and things are now floating around the room
Bass Canon, kick it!
Same I bought one and am now in the shadow realm pls help
What button turns gravity back on? Can anyone help?
Only this channel and unbox therapy have a video of this speaker.. that says alot . considering it's like a year old
Hahaha
David in the back one the vision pro😂
Paying homage to the latest Event 😂
😅😂
I wasn’t the one that noticed that 😂
The longest ad I have ever seen
No mention is made how this so-called negative spring will change anything about the physics of the relationship between the thiele small parameters of the driver and the speaker cabinet. For any given driver and its parameters, there is a limit to what sound pressure level it can achieve without distortion if its inside an acoustic suspension cabinet. No evidence is provided that this speaker changes that limitation. What I suspect is going on is that the qtc is so high that a strong bass boost is provided in the bass frequencies most noticed by most listeners, thus giving the impression that the bass is extraordinary; even though the same could probably be achieved with an ordinary driver, given the proper ts parameters, with the same sized cabinet.
Don't forget adding extra "permanent magnets" around the back of it to counteract the effect of the air compression. I'll bet Brane engineers used to work at Bose, lol.
That's exactly it -- they're likely powering and providing equalization. That's it.
“..first, we need to learn about how speakers actually work”.
Ellis is the David Imel of Audio. Confirmed.
lol exactly
I was thinking that too. We all require context.
@@samsam21amb love it.
"next we travel to Japan to meet the inventor of the speaker to ask him how he intended bass to be used"
it seems he still doesnt know how speakers work if he thinks that it breaks law physics
Ellis has two things on his mind at all times: audio and dune 2.
Dune 2 was good, and way better than Dune 1 (which was average at best) but nowhere near "best movie ever".
Ellis is the type of guy to actually BE all about that bass
With a balanced and even treble :p 🎶
No he doesn't use the speaker. This is just a long ad. You're welcome.
Yeah, it a lotta hype over a well know design technique that exists for many products..
@@socksumi Yep, there's an older dude that builds speakers out of his garage on here. Recommend talking to him. He makes compact and medium sized setups that get down (like 32hz before rolloff and clear highs) Chris DIYer.
As someone that recently bought one, I am absolutely blown away at what it can accomplish. Would be fascinating to see a larger speaker from them with even more surface area, battery and amplification
Goodness. I waited for 10 mins for a demo on the speaker but there's none. What a huge disappointment!
There is no point in demoing a speaker other than irl.
You are not listening to that speaker, you are listening to the one in your device.
You would only be looking at a guy saying "oooh, that's a lot of bass", and the video already established that.
@@JH-lo9ut There is. As much as youtube compresses the shit out of our videos, it just gives us a rough idea of how good a speaker is, even with the compression. Also, what if the guy has studio monitors? What if he has studio headphones? Either way, you can still hear extra bass from a video using your cheap £3 headphones, cant you? What if they don't really have much bass and he is just sitting there telling us that the speakers better than it really is? Even with all these limitations its a key part of the video that can verify whether its good or bad.
@@ncr-is-washed If you wanna hear a speaker/headphones you gotta hear it IRL so there isn't really much to do of a "sound test" through a video, recorded via "we don't know what kind of microphone", in a "we don't know what kind of room", compressed via editing softwares, then RUclips, then played by another speaker/computer speaker/headphones which doesn't sound like the one being tested
@@ncr-is-washed ... if the guy is willing to lie to you about what he heard, then he can also just use his EQ in post to boost bass, or just place the recording mic closer to the speaker.
Speaker demos are not "key part" of a video, and that's not because of "yOuTuBe cOmPrEsSiOn" (which you will NOT be able hear), but because you're not hearing the speakers, you're hearing the signal recorded by a microphone placed in a specific spot in a specific room through your own speakers or headphones, which is a set of four filters that drastically change sound EACH. In fact, anyone "demoing" a set of speakers is lying to you through these parameters, whether they know it or not.
Speaker demos are utterly worthless and you're kidding yourself otherwise. What is not worthless are frequency response plots made in an anechoic chamber or at least an acoustically treated space, and blind ABX tests for measuring how people perceive them. Those are claims that are verifiable and reproducible. Anything else about the sound is bullshit you can ad-lib. Clamor for those means literally asking the guy to shill harder.
Was anxiously waiting for him to show the speaker disassembled or explain it's internal cavity design and speaker drivers
It's an advertisement. They don't want you to know how it works. They want you to buy it.
This audio product follows a long time tradition of not breaking physics while still managing to break wallets. It probably sounds wonderful for a mono Bluetooth/plug in speaker that fits nicely in your backpac... eh, car.
The course on audio was so basic, skipped that, then I just got “special spring, extra magnets = more air movement” which doesn’t make any sense.
Did I just watch a 10 minute ad on a speaker?
In a past life, they were no such hidden advertisements but measurements such as directivity, response curves for various pressure levels, Total Harmonic Distortion (THD), efficiency......
Totally agreed, and I'm a dinosaur from that era too.
All that useful, objective measurement stuff went out of the window when Bose came into being LOL!
@@caddelworth Indeed and the situation is similar in many domains of science (including the vast majority of research papers). AI are fed with this insipid soup the WEB is becoming and in return add more rubbish data to the pool. According to me, the near future will likely look like "Idiocracy" or "Don't look up", not even sure Americans will be able to make it back to the moon, unless we suddenly find a way to use the new tools to clean the information mess, stop rights infringements, help real creators and built new consolidated scientific databases.
At 1:11, David's pretend working is so convincing, he should give lessons to the guy from the last Apple event!
Great host Ellis !
Specs from the manual:
Amplifiers
Four class-D digital amplifiers
with combined output of over
200 watts
Sub woofer
One high excursion 6.5" x 9" (165
mm x 229 mm) R.A.D. subwoofer
for thundering bass and
sub-bass
Midrange
Two 2.5” (64 mm) midrange drivers
provide distinct stereo separation
in the mid frequency band
Tweeters
Two 0.75” (19 mm) dome tweeters
produce clear highs and an
ultra-wide soundstage
Microphones
Four waterproof microphones for
accurate voice recognition
Adjustable EQ
Adjustable bass, midrange and
treble via the Brane mobile app
Aside from it have an FPGA for the DSP, there's no mention of anything special in the manual.
Does it say the frequency response?
an FPGA is just a stack of programmable DSP "slices" in a trench coat, so that is not special either
@AluminumHaste In this case, "specs" clearly means "marketing hype."
No frequency response or polar response diagrams? I'm out.
PS: I also don't want or need any *speaker* that contains *microphones* so that's (yet another) red flag for this thing.
Have you seen that guy on youtube that made a rotary subwoofer? That thing reaches like 2Hz with insane power, enough to literally make cracks in his house walls, it's really cool
Sam "look mum no computer" Battle by any chance?
I have. I wouldn't call that a subwoofer since its not actually capable of playing any music. Its more of a low frequency resonance machine.
Yeah crazy stuff
@@SianaGearz No, it's Daniel Fajkis
Rebasses cam make that subwoofer have misical use
0:34 "These speakers are the same size"
I'm not trusting this guy on physics 😂
He said they're "about the same size".
@@TylerSolorzano That iLoud would actually be at least twice in size, it's not even close.
@@ashyouknow7420 That's mostly the case the round part is the same size
@@ashyouknow7420 your head is about twice the size of mine, but my brain is still seemingly larger. Crazy how that works.
A great video going into extensive detail on how a more typical speaker is flawed and then spend no time at all on how the BRANE works around these limitations!
david with the vision pro was so necessary for this one
Love the amount of love you guys are putting into The Studio channel 🔥
"Love the amount of love you guys are putting in this advertisement 🔥"?
An electromagnetic force acting against air pressure difference. So you are telling me they've created a... dynamic driver?
Hmm, a permanent magnet forming a spring, with some electrical thing in it. Put a piece of cardboard on that "Spring" and youve basically got a speaker.
You know this kinda reminds me of Yamahas active servo tech, with its negative impedance thingy. Although that one actually has some stuff going on and the speakers I have with active servo do sound fantastic.
They probably just did a motion feedback circuit and called it 'negative spring' lol. Marketing.
I went to "T.H.E. Show" a couple of weeks ago, and saw this thing in person. They side-by-side compared it to Sonos and JBL bluetooth speakers, and it was beyond amazing. That sound is not possibly coming from that little box. With their $50 off show discount bringing it down to $550, I was still not tempted. I would love the speaker, but it's simply too rich for my blood! Looking at a Sonos Move 2 now--was on sale for $359, but back up to $449. Darn it! 😵💫
hoffman's equation makes it clear you have to trade between size, bandwidth and power, _at a given efficiency_.
use a more efficient design, get more out of your speaker/enclosure combo.
this is achieving the same goal as existing servo subwoofers running in an under-dampened configuration.
@2:17 You said LOUD, but for the rest of the video, you refer to that property as Efficient. So which is it? (From Wikipedia, it's "high output sensitivity". Translation: Efficiency.)
If you want a bassy speaker then you don't want a good speaker. Bass Reflex speakers produce a longer lasting bass reponse that will remove clarity from the sound eventually. Acoustic Suspension speakers produce the best sound but they need beefier amps capable of getting the vibrating surfaces where they need to be. I don't have the money to get neither of those so I use Bass Reflex speakers. BTW, with modern digital amplifiers Hoffman's law doesn't apply - it did apply in 1961 when the only way to get good amps was by using vacuum tubes. Since the Tripath release the TA2020, digital amps became good with nice SNR and low distortions. Tripath was eventually purchased by Texas Instruments.
"Laws of Physics" aren't actually Laws - they are models that describe the physical worls as we perceive it. In the late 19th century Physicists were sure they could describe the physical world perfectly - with the exception of a few minos discrepancies. Thoser were the orbit of Mercury, the speed distribution of molecules in gases, the ultraviolet collapse when black bodies were heated and some weird black lines that showed up when a wide enough spectrography of light coming from stars were produced. The first problem (Mercury's orbit) was solved by Einstein's Relativity and the other ones by Quantum Physics. And even after that we still think we live in the in the Newtonian world ... a world where everything can be explained by simple mechanistic relationships. What made the world we live in turn into an improved version of Hell is the ideas propagate by Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan: The British PM made us believe there's no society just individuals while the former Hollywood B movie actor simply got a microphone and said "Greed is good".
Now we have problems that, if we don't fix them, will end human life on Earth - and these problems aren't linear and escape Math's ability to long term predictions. Meanwhile, we became linear bots who think how much money one has is the only measure of someones value.
And this is how you create an off-topic rant. LMFAO !
3:04 You can read here that a ported box (a box with a hole in it) still counts as a sealed box. This is because the port increases the pressure that the speaker has to push against, when operating near the port's resonance frequency.
I had the fortunate "ultimate base" experience of being less than five feet away from a full grown male african lion during a photoshoot. Ralph was getting a bit cranky and let out a protest growl as if to say, "I've had enough of this shit for one day..." and refused to exit his enclosure when called. My entire 6"2" 235 pound frame reverberated with that growl and everyone else in the studio froze. It was an extraordinary form of physics to experience and almost felt electrically shocking! The handler just replied, "Okay, you're the boss, we'll head home."
Real bass💀
00:01 sorry there Bro, literally NOTHING breaks the laws of physics
If something does break the laws of physics, there will be new papers, scientific debates, and the science world will go crazy! Physics isn't all about truth, sometimes we learn the things that can be proven wrong in future!
For example, In the late 19th century, classical physics couldn't explain the spectrum of radiation emitted by a blackbody (an idealized physical body that absorbs all incident electromagnetic radiation). According to classical theories, the radiation intensity should increase without limit as wavelength decreases, leading to the so-called "ultraviolet catastrophe.
Another one can be that In 1905, Albert Einstein extended Planck's idea to explain the photoelectric effect, where light shining on a metal surface ejects electrons. Classical wave theory of light couldn't explain why only light above a certain frequency could eject electrons, regardless of its intensity. Einstein proposed that light itself is quantized into particles called "photons," each carrying a quantum of energy proportional to its frequency. This idea was revolutionary and eventually earned Einstein the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1921...
There are many more examples like these, and that's how science itself changes a lot based on our observations and calculation!
Ummm... God.
@@some1human cant argue with that
True
@@some1human Um...Sheela Na Gigs
NEW ELLIS VID LETS GO
planar magnetic IEM's have all three, at least when you plug them in your ears. Loud, bassy, small
The implied design sounds like a duplex speaker; 2 speakers face to face, one in phase and one out of phase. A push-pull setup.
That would just be a Ripol wouldn't it.
Yes, but it sounds like they're trying to do that magnetically, not 2 cones, but 2 sets of magnets.
Brane!!! I have 2 of those and the Stereo mode is absolutely incredible.
You want bass? Infinity RS4 1990 tower speakers (not the RS4Bs) and put them in the corner of a room. The bass is OUT OF CONTROL and yet it still doesn't overtake the other frequencies when used with other speakers! Insane for 1990!
I guess the morale of the story is to make sure you add "not sponsored" to your video or you will get endless unfounded hate comments...
Corrected title: "How this Speaker Used Physics"
It would be awesome if these amazing new speakers were actually affordable. I mean i get it, it's breakthrough technology that's very expensive to R&D, but dang, $600 portable Bluetooth speaker? Thats actually crazy.
In order to make base you have to displace a lot of air. One of the most efficient ways to do so with minimal space is a hemholtz resonator. Tuning the resonator to a subsonic frequency alleviates a lot of the group delay problems. Simply putting a hole in a speaker cabinet does not relieve the back pressure. In fact there is a phase delay at certain frequencies down to the resonant frequency at which point the air is out of phase with that hole or event and it actually creates more back pressure at the resident frequency reducing the speaker cone Excursion dramatically. As such the hole or vent becomes the primary dominant source of Bass output.
Those iLoud micromonitors are incredible for their size. I own three sets of them; one for my bedroom tv, one to compliment my mixing/mastering setup and a travel kit when I have to mix at other studios. They are my 'realworld' reference and I use them extensively.
**Ellis carries a "huge" subwoofer out of frame**
**me, realizes how crazy my home theater really is when he thinks thats "huge"**
For real. I have 15”s, those are big
As the owner of a full Marty 18" and svs sb3000, his idea of bass is cute.
@@mattb4251I have 2 JTR Captivator 4000ULFs in my home theater. 4 18s total, 520lbs of pure, house destroying subsonic bass. 110dB at 10Hz, 125dB at 20Hz. My first sub was an SVS PB-1000 I got on sale for about $400, bigger than that Genelec (although arguably not as good, better value for sure though). I'm willing to bet that Bluetooth speaker doesn't even have as much bass as my Wharfedale bookshelves.
Yeah. That was a tiny subwoofer. Mine isn't as crazy as the others in this thread, but mine with 4 ft³ gets me to subsonic.
Haha yup! I he was saying that I looked over at the PB16 Ultra. Little does he know 😂
THE BACKGROUND JAZZ MUSIC SLAPS!!!!
this is a brilliant video. ellis, make more of these. this is so intriguing, and the editing and music is so chill.
it's a useless video - they don't even mention the supposed specs, let alone validate the claims. it's just marketing ploy.
@TheExileFox I didnt even know how speakers worked, much less subwoofers, before this video. Don't comment if it's just going to be negative 😊
@@tentobeans If you want to learn about how speakers actually work, there are plenty of actually informative videos here from people who acually no what they are talking about not just a guy claiming to know his stuff. No need to humour this video ad if you learnt something you didn't expect to.
@@ashyouknow7420 :) but i did learn something i didn't expect to, because i just clicked on this video cuz im an ellis stan :)
@@ashyouknow7420 i don't really care to learn the intricates of how speakers work, but it was a nice fun fact to learn while enjoying a video from one of my favorite channels. no need for hate, bud.
congrats! your channel is in my blacklist from now on!
I remember being so excited about my Bose 901s. And it seems like this is a real breakthrough that's got you excited too! I don't do much audio these days but glad to see innovators are still pushing the envelope.
I really enjoyed this video style. It was really refreshing 👍
You make kind of a promo video for a speaker and not even once you made the audience hear it compared to any other speaker 🤣🤣
This has the best audio of any tech video I’ve ever watched
This is the “Perfectest” video i’ve ever watched From the explanation to the editing, everything is just superb 👌🏽
I recently bought a Bose Micro Soundlink. On my first use, I got startled at the Sound emerged from that micro BT speaker. It produced real bass sound. Unbelievable. Also, the battery life is huge (the spec says 6hrs after full charging, but it delivers more).
Amazing audio engineering.
Why is this dude's default facial expression "cynically disgusted by smelling the nastiest fart"?
@4:40 -- since when has a 10" subwoofer been a "massive" speaker? Most of the touring rigs I've used 15"-21" drivers. One of them had subs where each subwoofer had quad 15" drivers.
But that's for a venue. For a small living room you need at least 2x12 inch imho.
@@permanenceinchange2326 I'm running dual 18" subs in my listening room at home. Definitely more than what the room needs, but I have them dialed way down.
@@grayrabbit2211 Does the term "audiophile" apply to you, by any chance? :)
6.5 inch 200 watt? That jawn has no subwoofer. Thats just a woofer.
200 what's, or 200 W PMPO?
I can confirm this speaker is a legit sound bar replacement, you can pair up to 8 in stereo and each one outputs 200 watts on battery. The company has grown immensely in the last year and the X is worth every penny. Cant wait for them to release more speakers that focus on pinpoint directional highs with special electrostatic drivers. Brane isn't just a one off company, they are shaping up to be a true pioneer in audiophile grade portable speakers.
Love Elis and his audio talk. More of this please!
Cant believe I watched a whole video about a speaker without actually hearing the speaker. Maybe I watched it wrong
Or, just maybe, it makes no sense to record and replay a sound that your setup cannot reproduce right...
@@ABa-os6wm There are plenty of YT videos that can demonstrate great sound and sound effects. He didn't even try. Could've given a disclaimer about limitations with viewer equipment, etc.
I passed Ellis the other day on a street and he told me to watch Dune 2.
no actual specs on their website - I remain sceptical
First video I’ve seen of yours other that the podcast
Very entertaining 😊
Wow such a great speaker review…. That sound test was just amazing. That bass blow my headphones
For $600 it also breaks your bank!
Do not waste time on the video if you want to “hear, what it’s capable of.
how tf do u expect it to be? You will never hear how it actually performs through a video
Is this sponsored content?
100%
Good question, now I’m curious as well!
Definitely has to be
Nope, otherwise they would have disclosed it.
@@Aeleas333 There wasn't even a demo of the acoustics, LOL. It was pure marketing materials delivered via "trust me, bro".
Meridian kick started all of this over 30 years ago with the D600 and still lead the pack now. Despite just about every manufacturer now copying them to eek maximum performance out of small form factors they never get a mention. If you want to hear what amazing really sounds like, have a listen to their current line up.
I’ve had a Naim Mu-so Qb for years and that thing sounds fantastic for being a little 8.5” cube. It does it by using 300w of power amps across 5 drivers, and it’s expensive, but there’s still nothing on the market that beats it for really solid room-filling sound from a tiny package.
What a cool video. Great job in explaining the more technical audio topics in a clear and concise way. We know it's not so easy 😉 Also, now I'm very curious how those speakers sound. I want to check them out!
If you are actually into audio engineering, you should know this video is bad. Because: without plotting the frequency response, taking dB measurements (at 1 meter distance) and not mentioning the specs - it's just (indirect) marketing ploy.
Who ever you are, managing the Lewitt page, ask an engineer before supporting this kind of marketing trash that pretends to be technical. Lewitt makes good products and this type of comment leads to belive that the company is headed in the wrong direction.
Look up rotary speakers. They're so potent that they'll literally put cracks in the walls of your house.
Like Leslies on a B3
YOU DID NOT EVEN TEST THE SPEAKER THAT YOU SPENT AN ENTIRE VIDEO PRAISING!!!!!! 🤯🤯🤦🏾♂
software is the biggest reason so many Bluetooth speakers sound way bigger than they are, They make a half decent speaker/box/passive radiator combo and then physically tune out the unwanted harmonics and boost the ones they want. It's alot the reason why its so hard to make small DIY speakers that come anywhere near as close as commercial ones without a programmable amp and the mic and monitoring software for it.
Wow it’s an ad. Well done luring me into that for 2 min. 😮
Your explanation was really bad, you say the three factors are "small, loud, and bassy" and then you start talking about "efficiency" being one of the three factors.
The price 😭
How to make the most boring Speaker Ad disguised as a review.
I’ve had a lot of speakers. My home theater is 30year old Ohm Walsh Omni directional speakers and I love them.
I love good audio, I build my own subs for my car long time ago and always used amps that had great control over my subs (DF). Over the time I got used to all the wireless audio options we have and got excited when there was a new invention that brought better clarity/base and so on. I was impressed about the MBP audio, the AirPods and some bt speakers. Not comparable with my cinema system, but still good (so I thought). Then for some reason I connected my nearly forgotten Logitech Z3 2.1 system from 2003 to my MBP and was blown away. What is really happening these days: We got used to lots of not so great sounding speakers and get excited as soon something sounds a bit better than not so great. I will listen to this one when I have a chance, but honestly I don't get my hopes to high. To get great low bass, you need an amplifier with lots of control (Damping Factor), and lots of sub real estate. Bass reflex as here shown helps to get louder, but often you loose a bit of control. Lots of my friends back then used bandpass enclosures or dual reflex bandpass enclosure to get even lower bass with more pressure.
Isn't it good RUclips removed the dislike button.
4.9k dislikes at this time
😂
So uh... you going to show us it in action or ramble on about how great of a product a 560$ speaker is with zero proof to back it up? well I just just wasted like 10minutes of my life
You didn’t explained the physics behind the speaker. You only made advertising. 😡
Most people today don't know what real bass from a home system is. In my younger days we all had massive speakers with 15" woofers and high power to drive them. I never stopped and currently am running JBL Vertec 4880's for bass and have 28,000 watts to drive my system.
I have a Bose Soundlink micro and it's a very small Bluetooth speaker yet it can play frequencies down to 45Hz with ease. It uses 2 passive radiators and a 1-1/4 inch full-range driver and it gets louder than the JBL Clip. The JBL flip is a little less bassy but it gets louder.
Why is he always squinting so hard??
didn't know MKBHD got a low frequency bass dude! Love this
Ellis and marques… just hear the Anker Soundcore Boost… this tiny water bottle sized speaker produces enough bass for most people and also has neutral and clear imaging. People wont be needing more bass than this as the deep and mid bass is quite boosted than the rest of the frequency response.
the sneakiest ad Ive ever watched, damn son, logging off internet now.
So, this is a 3 way portable speaker with DSP tuning from anechoic chamber calibration. Neat.
Mkbhd should do recruitment as an additional career. This team is superb.
Wow the sound quality you tested is amazing, and how you tested bunch of speakers side by side like any sane person would. Just mark it as an ad this point guys.
Disagree with most of the comments. Everyone is mad that the speaker wasn’t tested on video. Testing on video is pointless. You are limited by RUclips’s audio quality, the end user’s audio setup, and your recording setup. They do not have an anechoic chamber to accurately generate frequency response curves. Besides, how something sounds to an individual’s ear is much more important than a frequency response graph for the consumer.
Edit: typo for accurately
Love this type of videos the studio team, love from Sierra Leone 🇸🇱 west Africa
They should label ads or something. And this is a bass speaker -but not a subwoofer. You can use all sorts of different methods to move a cone - but the origin of the sound comes from the speaker cone. A cool new way to shake the speaker cone - does not change the speaker cones range of movement.