Why Yamaha's New 2021 MT-09 Is Dividing Opinion!
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I'm so stoked for this bike. I intended to buy an Mt09 this coming year and have already test rode the 2020. To me it looks like they've improved the bike in every measurable way. Super glad I didn't buy the outgoing gen earlier this year as I was considering.
I like this futuristic “Cyclop” headlight design! The body work is so good, plus aluminium subframe. Wow!
Dividing? Most people I talk to seem to hate the looks.
maybe a better performing and handling bike now, but the styling is🤮and I’m a Yamaha fan
@@lukevincent4397 sarcastic comment ever
The more I look at it, the better it seems to be.??.
I like it. It’s better then the KTM headlights
@@Steve-motorcycles that's not to hard to beat. But I'll still cut off my little finger for a new 1290 duke.
good thing there are some companies offering aftermarket lights that are looking pretty cool. Kinda sucks that yamaha messed up the headlight though
I’ll have to check those out...
@@motobob check out Kenstomoto
The lights look sweet.
I agree the headlight looks more like a newer duke 990 one
lo mejor que he leído en opinión de esta horrible nueva MT-09, no lo hace las marcas sin equipo de diseño que solo hacen copias.. muy buen comentarios je je je
The most detailed break-up of features I've found yet 🔥
Awesome job @MOTOBOB
Ride-by-wire isnt introduced with this version, they have used it since the first one.
True
its a new ride by wire thats less twitchy
You did a amazing job featuring this bike. You sold me on it lol yamaha needs to hire ya. I love it when brands go all out with something new. I definitely like it.
I think it looks pretty cool. I like the minimal bodywork and I think the new headlight is rad. Looks like a very easy bike to maintain as well. Everything is out in the open. Could be the bike to replace my aging VFR.
By far the best review I've watched on the changes coming up for the MT09's new iteration. Loved the way you presented it.
Delighted to see the improvements on the already awesome bike. I believe the design will be appreciated in times coming when the bike rolls out in flesh. Torque master for a reason. Cheers!
SO many improvements, and all this talk about a headlight! Looks like they've made an already terrific bike even better!
Agreed. A bajillion improvements....and all the vain kids worrying about how the headlight is maybe a couple mm too high??????????
Love your channel and how comprehensive your reviews are. I really like what Yamaha are doing - pushing the boundaries. As a T120 rider I shouldn’t like it but it’s good to see all bike manufacturers moving forward with innovative design and engineering. Thanks for another excellent review.
Thanks Paul!
It's not about whether you dislike it or not, it's more about whether you dislike it more than others or not.
I.. I genuinely like it
It looks good. Everybody always gets mad at first when the looks change. If you produce the same product forever you end up like Harley Davidson and become obsolete.
@PARTY BOY did you watch the video?
I like it
I did not like the headlight at start. But now i actually think about trading in my 2019 for a 2021.
It isn't the same product, even without the changed look, derp. Looks are the least crucial thing and have little to do with technology.
"Everybody always gets mad at first when the looks change." If everybody gets mad, it is not controversial. :D They don't have to change for the worse.
Well that's not true! No one complained about the design of the 1290r or the streetfighter
That tiny headlight belongs on a 125cc not the MT09. No cable throttle is super cool though.
Is it small because is LED?
Even the Mt09 from 2014 had ride-by-wire bro .
@@sileniu Still used cables tho
I have the MT-03, and that headlight is surprisingly bright. I think it is an amazing look for the MT-09
@@joevidya Yea because is not wireless you know? you need cables to * transport * the information to the ecu ...
This is nice looking bike..love the front headlight..the signature of MT...cannot wait to see it nextyear..
Looks amazing in my opinion, I can't wait to see what the new MT 07 looks like.
Ditto
I like it too! Hahaha
@@IndependentVictor ditto ditto
Me too
I have the MT-03 and that is a bright freaking headlight!!!! I love it!!!!
6:06 that's dope that's it's got all the fancy eletronic ride aids technology carried down for the R1/moto gp bikes!!!
I think the looks will grow,but yes I do agree the headlight position need to be lowered down to gain the aggressive looks but maybe will affected the projector angle unless it can tilt up and down,but I do like is the display now is in the center.....cleaning will PITA😂😁
I was just waiting for your video man 🤩
That being said, I like the bike, the new led indicators, swingarm, and chasis looks very good, can’t say the same about the headlight, it looks disproportionate, is too small, and the cover less design makes it look unfinished, as if they forgot to bolt on the fairings
One look and I could hardly wait for last year.
I love the new headlight!!!! The Ducati 999 got a bad wrap for it’s center lights and now it’s a classic. I love that one too!!!
Very nice and I’m sure there will be some aftermarket options for the headlight.
own an mt09 for 3 years. this is refreshing and uinique. after seeing so many the same bike, the 2nd gen people here in the phph thought it was ugly but get used to it and love it alot now. same story will happen for this version
the styling on my red 2014 fz09 is much more like a mega super moto, hence why they called it a "motard", but this styling is just pure streetfighter and I absolutely love it. With an exhaust, fender delete, new bars, and bar end mirrors... wow will this thing look incredible!
Love it 💯 even the single headlight
Luv it including the lights! The minimalist functionality theme sure works!!! Ahead of time
I just love it...my next bike coming in march 21 👍🏻
The only thing I would have done is to lower that headlight to the level of the horn on the forks. It would have followed the curvature of the tank and make it look better overall. Kinda like the Kawasaki Z1000. If the Z1000 had the headlight that high it would have looked very bad.
I like it, hope to see a mt-10 update soon
I do not care how awesome my bike is, if I'm not in love with the way it looks then I'm not in love with the bike and manufacturers need to get that through their heads. No one wants to spend 7000+ on something they do not like the look of. People are willing to sacrifice power, comfort, torque just for a colour scheme let alone an actual design. It's a sad truth but that's just the way peoples brains work
Same with cars
EXACTLY...
@Donaldo you are what we call "responsible". Most of us riders are not 😂 I've bought 5 bikes in the past 3 years... irresponsible... but I'm the type of rider that they want to attract because I spend the most money on their products 😂
I hate the headlights on my Street Triple R, but I still bought it because the rest of the package trumps the looks of the headlight(s). How did I remedy the headlight(s)? I ordered a single headlight conversion a year later.
@@ShinigamiShionZ At least you're being honest.
Head light unit positioned too high
yes, i found it was already quite hight on the old model and the xsr
hi thanks for this video mate. do you know if the mt07 will have the same headlight?
No idea! Look forward to seeing an update on that bike though
The previous model probably just went up in value!
nO rAY..
It has dropped drastically…if you spend 9500 on a old gen for no electronics, poor suspension, and smaller displacement, then you are dumb when you can get all of that for the same price on a new one. I sold my old gen right before they announced this new gen and made a profit but now similar ones are way below what i sold mine for because people rushing to get rid of them
I like the design. The headlight isn't my favorite but the XSR900 was always the looker of the 2 anyway. Hope to see that bike updated like this one. The mechanical improvements sound awesome and have put this bike on my radar for sure.
It sounds seductive and the headlight is great, also the gauge specialy that it got a fuel gauge now but why they kept the pillion seat very small and it will be nice to have quick shifter, definitely it's a buyer.
I reckon most modern bikes of the last few years to look good in their way and as they continue to evolve, depending upon purpose, style, etc, but aesthetic of this bike makes me think they should have stayed near to the look of the previous year’s model and relied on the engine, weight and other improvements to entice prospective buyers... good review, as usual... cheers
Well its going to be a blast to ride, as long as you don't look down at the headlight, and apparently theres some leaks going on that the new MT07 will look about the same as the 2021 MT09
Beautiful bike, new or (old), and what you said at the end about introducing the 1000 first and then the other one's makes a lot of sense,
And good job on the review
I like it, considering switching out my 2018 but not completely sure, be losing a bike I took time modifying to my preferences, I got time to think on it, winter now anyhow.
I like most of the updates, especially the engine. It's that headlight! Why did Yamaha have to throw everything away from the old model? A slimmed down version of the old lights would have looked great on the new model.
I do think people who own a current MT09 will be reluctant to upgrade to a less good looking machine. It's a real shame all the other upgrades have been overshadowed by this styling exercise.
I personally think this bike looks incredible. The headlight too. Super different! Looks like a perfect mix between the mt09 and the z900
When you see the bike in the flesh it will look amazing
Wait for the mt 10! It has a very good head. I bet you will love it even in the lux projected on the roads. You will feel you can go even faster than ever in the dark.
i could learn to like the aesthetics looks futuristic but i preffered the 2019 2020 style it looks sharp
I have placed my order at my local us dealer a blue/silver one and I think the looks pay homage to the seca models from the 80s which were popular then
Love that headlight!
Sweet looking bike. Love the headlight myself and hated the previous one.
I like maximum naked approach a lot! and specs looks great on paper. QUDOS on QS and revised suspension. I am super eager to test one. About headlight... I guess if I enjoy the ride, I'd buy one any way, and then headlight either grow on me or get replaced. Not a deal breaker in my view, because to me, everything else looks amazing.
I honestly dont mind the headlight. I did love the duals from the 2nd gen but if you throw a small tinted screen right above it i think it’ll look much better
I like it, its a stripped down naked bike, not even rear side bodywork, I also like they have gone back to the higher mounting for the rear number plate as I think the ones hanging of the back of the swing arm just get in the way of cleaning, prob weigh more as well, as for the headlight it fine as I don't go out in the dark anymore.
love the new look
Personally I love how it looks like some sci-fi robot. I live in Tokyo and the 09 would look so awesome just going around the city at night.
Not ugly, looks amazing. The MT03 style front end is awesome
It's a brilliant look! My first thought was cyberpunk and then I watched their lunch video and it's inspired by sci-fi anime from the 90s & 80s. Japan were kings of cyberpunk. Not only that a lot of cyberpunk anime were set late 2010s or in the 2020s so on a time scale they've brought anime to life. I always thought the MT series was somewhat cyberpunk inspired but they never did enough for me aesthetically but this is pure brilliance!
G'day Mr Bob. Nice machine but a bit fussy around the headlight area. There again love is in the eye of the
beholder. Would i buy one if i was in the market, yes.
I think it looks good, if anything I'd like more lights to be added to be seen easier, but that would just be aftermarket, like maybe part of the handlebars
Hope someone makes a round headlight kit for that, like that of the cb's.
Loved my mt09 engine and gearbox.. but the suspension was budget and even the front on the SP model needed work , do hope they sort it on this model ..
I just hope they don't destroy the XSR900.
Me too...I'll be gutted if they change anything but give it the new engine and upgraded suspension. it's cool as it is.
I felt they already did that with the 2020 colour scheme. I might have bought one this year but that changed my mind.
@@alexshmalex maybe a new colour scheme...but I loved the gold wheels
Will they be updating the XSR900 with the same chassis and motor?
What happened to the rear fender? I really liked the old swing arm style
looks fab..quickshifter,,more power less weight..I think the head light looks great..better suspension..virtually ironed out all the previous issues with the mt09 in one fell swoop..can't wait to see the reviews
I wish if it is possible to fit the 2nd gen bike's headlamp unit on the new one. I would definitely do that if i get the bike.
all the tech updates sound tasty, but that headlight.. i used to own a first gen and it was a blast :-)
Looks cool. Wonder what the xsr900 update will look like
Mean looking bike! I love it especially with factory quickshifter for the U.S.
You are right about the headlight position. Needs to be dropped lower, and get rid of the scaffolding holding the bar.
I expect that we will get used to the looks quickly and if it’s an improvement on the last gen then it’s going to be awesome.
Yamaha should have kept the swing arm license frame mount.
It's a shame that the only thing everyone focuses on is the looks. Personally I think people should really give Yamaha more credit for literally improving the bike in almost every way.
What is the FIRST experience you have on a bike? Looking at it. Before you see how comfortable it is, how useful the dash is, before you feel its power and enjoy the ride... you have to SEE it. That's why people are upset. No one would spend hundreds on a clothes even if they are super comfortable if they are ugly clothes... let alone a vehicle which most people will only have 1 of. If you're not feeling a shirt today, no problem... wear another one... but your bike... imagine riding something every day that you hate the look of... it's really not that hard to understand. The people who are upset aren't the people who just appreciate bikes... it's the people who want to actually own the thing
@@ShinigamiShionZ I don't care. As long as it's specs are the best in 900cc, I'll buy one. If you dont like the look, you simply don't. But you can't apply your opinion to everyone else. Haha, good luck
@@xcg1234 I'm not applying my opinion to everyone else. I'm sure that there are people who dont care and people who like it. But the people who are the most upset about it are the people who want to own one but dont like the look of it. What's wrong with what I said ?
@@ShinigamiShionZ I agree. Design aesthetic is the first thing to tackle in automotive industry. All other things are secondary to design
Because in todays world, performance comes second to looks. You cant go fast nowadays without any risks but there are no drawbacks to looks
I quite like it, if it handles any better then the old model, I’m probably going to get one.
The engine has always been a class leader
Clearly you’ve never heard of the Street Triple. That engine is the class benchmark.
@@tg8150 clearly you don't get what he was saying , on the 900cc category it is, what's the CC of the street triple/rs?
Although the Street triple handles much better then the out going MT09, and it Revs much higher, the CP3 engine is much more fun on the street. I agree the trumpet is a much better track bike, but you have a better time on the MT09 more often. The only bike that matches the fun value of the MT09 is the KTM 890 but they have a few concerns regarding reliability
It's 4Kg lighter and KYB did both front and rear suspension. It is going to handle better than the last one.
@@devideomeneer indeed, I think so. Not that the last bike was terrible, just that there was not feel from the front wheel.
On this video, head light looks okay. I'm glad it's LEDs. Looks better from the side than the previous version. I'm glad they didn't do the off center speedometer. The old version I didn't like the angle of the seat nor the angle of the handlebars. Both were slanted upward too much for my liking.
Bob, it in my opinion sounds and looks much better than the out going model. Keen to see what they do with this he outdated MT-07! Great review as always! 👍😎
On a plus, I hope it handles better than even the older SP version which where still like riding a pogo stick when pushed hard. The absolute basic test for anyone that I can literally provide positive decisionmaking when buying a new bike is to just sit on it with the front brake applied, uses all your forces to push the front suspension down. If it rebounds with a couple of “ups and downs” then it isn’t the right bike until, if possible, you can dial in the appropriate amount of compression and (arguably) more important rebound settings...
I love how it looks IMO an improvement on the old model, unfortunately it's too high for me so I'll have to stick to my street triple R, the Kawasaki Z900 is the only other naked middleweight that shorties can stretch.
I agree with you man. The headlight doesn't look to bad, it's just too high :(
The problem with moving it lower is that you get a bigger gap between the bars and headlight. And how do you keep the dash close to the clocks? This is the problem with physically small headlights I guess...
@@motobob Yeah you have a point. But now it just does not line up with the lines on the tank, in my opinion. A bigger headlight might be the way to go :/
@@motobob I guess they are powerful enough LED headlights?
I loooove that big black frame. Much better looking than the old mt09. It looks like a supersport frame and I don't know why people wouldn't like it.
Yeah I like it too
It’s all very techno but how do you clean it?
No thanks. I'll take the XSR 900.
That's what I did. Great engine and way better looking imo
I love mine.
Hoping the 2021 version isn't ruined.
@@adiohead I hope its got the good stuff though.
can you do feature video on the kawasaki rs900z ?
I will get used to the look soon. But this is currently the BEST 900cc Bike. Best hardwares, engines and electronics. Will buy one next spring, all black color.
Other than the headlight, I'm liking the look.
Much better looking than old one, nice futuristic headlights, maybe a little screen would finish it off
Looks good. I like the Cyclops headlights. Looks like a sci-fi robot head.
Great video, I definitely prefer the look of my 2018 MT-09 though.
Somebody could make alot of money coming out with a round headlight kit (similar to CB650) to replace this headlight. I don't hate the new MT09 headlight but I would pay $200 for a nice 7" round replacement..... The rest of the bike is SWEET!
Photoshopped it for you: ruclips.net/user/postUgycGxbyMdvIBQFwpU54AaABCQ
The headlight is growing on me....😀😀😀
I'm waiting for a redo on the MT07.
I do prefer last year's headlight arrangement, but that aside the mew model is a very sophisticated advanced machine. Too bad it doesn't have better connectivity though.
The stroke was increased 3mm, not the bore. Hence peak torque arrives earlier in the rev range.
I really dig the way it looks. Much better and more modern, a little bit even more futuristic than it should be, but I like it. You gotta understand it, they went for this “incomplete”, cyberpunk look, and they delivered nicely. If you don’t like it, doesn’t mean it’s bad. I’m looking forward to the XSR range tho.
I love how it looks. I will probably buy one.
I like it! if they are trying to achieve a no/minimal headlight sort of looks this comes very close.. I guess this one is being true to a street fighter style than a typical japanese roadster.
Don't mind the front end, but I'm really surprised that they changed it so soon. Wonder if this is the way that they intend to go with the next MT-10 which since it was launched has never looked like anything else in the 'family'.
I like the head light
Let’s not forget the Buell inspired exhaust as well
I think the problem I have is the headlight looks a bit to high. The actual design of it looks pretty cool though. Apart from that the rest of the bike look awesome!!
I like it .. sounds like they improved the MPG quite a lot the FZ-07 did have 58 MPG .. Lighter more power .. hope the light is brighter than an FZ-07
I love this new look. A real technical and engineering masterpiece. That exhaust may look bizarre but the way it moulds and hugs the engine block is incredible. I always preferred the original mono headlight of the 1st MT09 so this one is not such a shock.
Love it and Yamaha don’t usually drop the ball on the world wide appeal of their bikes. I;think testing the led on the mt03 before rolling out to bigger was a good idea as is the tried and tested R1 imu. Looks like they’ve sorted most of previous criticisms of the mt09 and will sell shed loads probably me included 👍🏻
I commute on a dark twisty highway to my overnight job, so my main concern is how well the headlight actually works. I'm waiting for actual reviews before I commit my $$ to any particular motorbike..and the 09 and 07 are my two favorites, with what bikes are availible locally. It's obvious that Yamaha designed the top of the unattractive headlight assembly to bolt some sort of fly/ windscreen, to suit the owners preference, and clean up its looks at the same time.