If your a golfer who wants to get better, take this vid to the range, put it on a loop, and do exactly what AMG says. Work on the sequence a piece at time and film yourself. You will be taking your buddies money in no time. But it takes work and dealing with frustration. Went from an 18 to a 3. I’m not a young guy and I outdrive just about everyone in my men’s group. Even the flat belly guys. When they pull a 7 and I’m pulling a PW they joke around a lot by saying I really need to hit from the tips. I’m starting to get the feeling they aren’t really joking.
You know already how I feel about this, from the Shallowing video, 100% pure 🥇.. I know people are probably afraid of lowering their arms, but I'm here to tell you it has made, and has continued to make a world of difference in my game, both quality of strike and distance. Keep it up guys, love it! 🔥👍
Spent the last few months working on shallowing on my downswing and wondered why my best sessions had the feeling of my club staying behind me in my turn. This has cleared up so much thank you
As a golf coach, this is one of your best videos yet. It not only clarified things for me but also covered the essential but rarely mentioned keys to the swing.
I started golfing for the first time this summer. My goal was to break 90. I started this summer at a 112. Thanks to channels like you all, JKM, D Maude, Good good, I shot an 85 from the white tees last weekend. Accomplished my goal in less than 3 months. Thank you all A TON
Same! watching these two took my score from 130 to 82!!!!! I was so shocked. It all came down to hitting straight and correctly, hitting good chips, and not two putting. EDIT: Danny is also such a great teacher! Check out "the art of simple golf" as well he has some good tips.
Great job guys. One of the things I've learnt is that the ultimate purpose of the backswing is to set you up for success in the downswing. This video adds detail to that in regards to rotation. Keep up the great work guys.
Really like the bit @4:00 showing arms movement without body turn. Would love to have a video on this backswing & downswing. Do the arms really move more or less up and down vertically? If so I need help to see and learn how they move through impact and up into the finish. Or perhaps to clarify whether there is any throw of the club towards the target (alpha rotation along the beta plane if not mistaken) using the hands and arms or are we Thanks fellas! Great stuff here & much appreciated ❤
Check out Shallowing Like You've Never Seen Before, absolutely the Holy Grail to see this in great detail with 3D modeling. It's a 💡 bulb moment for sure. You won't believe it, and the difference in your ball striking if you implement what they show you will be pretty dramatic, it sure has been for me!
I've watched 100's of RUclips videos about the golf swing, but this is the first one I ever remember that tied these 4 things together and the secret sauce to it all is the part about the knees. Great video!!!
I just want to say that Shawn and Mike have done such a thorough job of understanding the intricacies of how the golf swing works. There is so much false and poorly communicated information out there. Shawn and Mike not only present the facts, but they present it in a clear and concise way. I have been a PGA coach for over 20 years now and I’m a big advocate for what information is presented here. Well done gentleman. Keep seeking truth.
Great instruction again, you guys have cleared up so many misconceptions of the golf swing we were led to believe years ago with all your video's! Thanks!
Great Video. The last 2mins (L hip back) I now know is where I was personally going wrong. Now that this part has been explained, I can see it so clearly simple - how did I not know this!. The best coaches make it simple and easy to understand.
Unbelievable video. You guys are so good at building conceptual understanding, proving said conceptual info (making it fact), then stacking each concept to build the whole swing/golfer understanding. Thank you for all of your content and effort to educate the golfing populous!
Best video ever!! Alot of coaches and players can learn so much from this! Its all measured! Brilliant stuff! Well done fella's great work as always! 👍👍👍
Still one the clearest and truest explanation/demo of the arm/body turn relationship. Thanks AMG for such hi quality content. Enjoying and utilizing everything you are putting out there time and time again. Simple the best.
Thank you so much for finally clarifying that "squat" movement. I always intuitively felt that was nonsense, but you see it so much in golf instruction.
This is possibly the absolute best video on how to hit pure golf shots in all the inter webs. I echo the post below mine. If you want a great golf swing, slowly piece these nuggets together. Go to the range and practice this at half speed week after week. You will have many aha moments along with a fantastic swing. 🔥
Love how you guys teach the concepts that enable the brain/body to react automatically and in the correct way. In other words, "give the body a reason to rotate" vs. giving it a reason to early extend (or stop rotating). Epic!! And love the AMG gear, I need to order some hats!
I felt like the right hip was driving toward the target with the left hip / leg the rotating axis. No one ever told me this. This is gold, thanks guys, can’t wait to try this!
Thank you so much for this video. The explanation of how the trail arm needs to unfold while still getting the elbow in front of the trail hip was enlightening. My elbow was getting in front of the hip while my trail bicep was flexing more and this was making me way over the top. Funny enough, I played hockey for 20 years and this is exactly how you make impact with a slap shot.
Really helpful, the knee work in-particular. Question: in the same way you move the trail knee out in the downswing, would you mirror that in the takeaway with the left, thereby moving right hip back?
@@AthleticMotionGolf Whoa. Then that would seem to mean that the hands/arms must be rotating in the opposite direction - and not merely dropping - in order to appear to be merely (mostly) dropping in the DTL video, no? If so, then a "feel" for such a move would sure be nice to have. Maybe something like the tail end of an "out-to-in" loop? Now that I think about it, maybe that's an aspect of that Justin Rose "pump drill" that I haven't picked up on.
I was 7 handicap who played with a fundamentally unsound swing, frustrated that (as an elite athlete in several other sports) I couldn’t produce shots as accurate or long as many less-athletic golfers. As a student of the swing and an engineer, I’ve studied all the golf instruction books, from Hogan’s Five Lessons on, but none of them addressed the “modern” swing like this video. So, 20 years later, finally, I have hope I can develop a swing that uses the body to produce a more reliable, powerful swing. Most importantly, this shows how you arrive at the key checkpoint positions. These guys’ videos with the scientific approach ( what the pros do vs. ams) is the best analytical approach I’ve found. THANK YOU!
Looks nice in slo-mo but how do i supply force--pull arms down hard or focus on rotating hard, or somehow both? Also, does not look like throwing the club, as some teachers advocate (leading with cocked trail elbow ); are they wrong ? Thank you.
The idea of getting the trail leg (right leg) vertical really worked for me. It allowed me to be a lot more consistent with hitting the ball first. I feel like when I try to bank the foot in helps me get the left hip open.
This video is great...im a feel player so i like this. Confirms what ive been doing wrong as my hands have obviously been coming out towards the ball... The bicep down then arms then wrists and hands to pocket hepls me alot... Following this along my hands feel like they lower so far behind me compared to what im currently doing, it doesnt feel like i can get back to the ball with my standard swing mechanics... Going to slowly get this arm/club movement into my swing. Atleast i will know if the club etc is in the right spot... My body will organise itself around that correctly or atleast close to make it functional.
I try not to watch much golf tips/instruction on line, simply because I don't want to start doing things that contradict what my teacher is having me work on. However I find your information (backed by the use of gears) very intriguing. The one thing that I find great in this video, along with others where you have mentioned the same thing, is the unfolding of the arms on the way back to the ball. There is so much out there about turn/tilt/side bend that we often forget the arms have to move as well. When I practice (slowly) lowering the bicep, unfolding at the elbow, and unhinging the wrist just makes everything fall into place. The club shallows and approaches from the inside. The swing feels free and smooth. The lowering and unfolding of the arms seems to just naturally make other things happen without even thinking or trying.
All the pieces of the jigsaw in this video - this vid is really all you need to have a great golf swing. The only bit which I thought was missing (based on one of your previous vids!) was making sure you have hip tilt on the backswing (if your hips are too flat then the legs/knees cant move like you say they should). Keep the vids coming - would be great if you could do one on tempo and tips on how not to “kill the ball” on the downswing 👍
HI Mike and Shaun, great Video, After shift ,yes I'm guilty of thinking the left leg goes back at 15 .26 Mark, Light bulb moment, the left glute stays on the wall and leg straightens, then the right hip /leg comes around . cheers ill watch it a few more time to make sure its clear but thanks guys ,cheers mal
Thanks for dispelling the squat myth, I've trying to explain that for years. I see guys teaching people to squat and believe it's counterproductive all the way around. Keep up the good work
Love these videos! What is the line between early extension on the trail leg to properly lifting the trail leg as your left hip rotates around / left leg straighten?
Long time fan! Great video. Video request: Gears is awesome and you have used a similar persoective before. Camera pointed at sternum of golfer and remains there as golfer rotates. Should be able to clearly see the true path of the arm swing relative to the front of the torso. I think the trace would be eye-opening for across the body swingers and for matching up turn with arms in back swing.
I’ve really been struggling more than ever this year…shanks, thins, fats, slices…you name it, it’s happened to me this season. Past 2 years I have been averaging an 85…consistently in the 80’s. Now I can’t even break 100. I think part of it is mental, but I think I had forgotten these key essentials. I’ll put it to the test at my next range session…thanks AMG.
Do you guys have a video which talks about recentering + right-hip into impact. My bad-tendency is to get ‘slidey’. It starts from a slide on the backswing - instead of a turn, & then from the top - the left hip slides, I don’t ‘plant’ properly, & the right hip ends up being a passenger. When I’m swinging well, I make a much better ‘turn’, & on the downswing, I feel like my right-hip ‘pressures’ the ground & brings me into a nice balanced powerful position into impact - then there is good balance & effortless power. Great videos as always - for me, it’s always about turning the turning the upper body on the way back, & then the right hip on the way down.
I feel like this video was created just for me. Amazing content I’ve been wondering if this is the correct hand path by trial and error it’s so much easier to move forward with the confidence of how it’s supposed to be done. Love your data driven approach. ❤
Been trying to improve my game watching your videos. I get a little confused as to what my arms should be doing. I hear you say sometimes that the arms swing around and at other times the arms lift up? It gets me hesitant at start of my back swing as to which I should be doing.
The lead cheek would be on the wall at contact and it would not be on the wall at full backswing? So there is a bit of movement left and a fist's worth forward during the swing?
Check out Shallowing Like You've Never Seen Before for unmistakable evidence of what the trail arm and wrist should do and look like as the lowering and unfolding occurs. Game changer...
I’m following this advice but I’m getting sky-high push-slices and dive-bombing hooks. Recorded myself in slow motion and it seems that this type of turn is giving me a low-point that’s about in-line with the lead foot meaning it is square and rising just outside the lead foot. The swing is hitting a lot of nice checkpoints but the impact position is all wrong. Any ideas?
Does this allow for the bottom-line effect of allowing the clubhead to be swung/thrown? The player is now able to feel both the clubhead and the face. the weight at the end of the shaft and the speed of the clubhead. The clubhead moves faster; feels faster. At the end of the downswing, the body is moving in response to the clubhead/weight on the end of the club and carries the player into the finish. This seems similar to throwing a baseball/football; instincts will do it without having to think about 15 different things. It’s like developing the feel of casting a sinker on the end of a fishing rod; flow, not hit. The weight of the clubhead pulls the player into the finish!
My son has a flat inside back swing with not much hand set. He has started to shank the ball here and there and it’s caused some confidence issues. What drills can he do to get his back swing in a better position. He also has a short back swing
Does the speed at which you lower your arms affect your overall club head speed? I ask this because it seems to for me…. Maybe it’s only because if I lower them faster I have to pivot faster (seemingly) but not sure of the dynamics on this…thanks for the great videos!
I would like to clarify my question in that since the arms don’t “swipe across the body” in your words I assume they just move forward from the pivot. If that truly is the case than would lowering the arms into position faster in and of itself crate faster club head speed assuming everything else is done correctly…,sorry if this is obvious but from a 2d perspective it’s not clear to me…
Guys, first off I am still amazed that there are teachers of the golf swing in instagram land who will dispute the arms have to raise and then, surprise, lower. Secondly you talk about being fooled by still images and video. As a teenager when I first picked up a golf club the first thing I did was read my fathers Golf Digest Magazines and through a few instruction books that let’s just say were questionable instruction. Literally, for years and years I was so screwed up that I quit the game for a long time before picking it up about a year and a half ago. Through you guys and a few other great teachers the game is fun again and I know when I am practicing I am doing the correct things to get better.
A follow-up that would be interesting to see is this video is combination with peak ground force. Don't you want your peak vertical to occur before the club is shaft parallel in the downswing?
I've tried so hard to "squat" that my left leg NEVER straightens out at impact or even after for that matter. And now to find out the "squat" is an optical illusion (beautifully explained btw) is nuts. I've struggled a lot with not being able to open my hips even though I have the first 2 parts correct. CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH........And I'm a little pissed to boot lol
Fully on board with all of the tips here, but it is curious how opposite some coaches feel about this. I've seen a video from Dana Dahlquist recently where he teaches a high level player to do at least three of the wrong things here in this video. He advocated: Leave the arms up, spin the pelvis open and left hip back away immediately in transition, and create max separation
We used 3d data from pga tour winners and major champions to show and help people what actually happens in high level golf swings. Everyone else is free to teach how they want and what they want. 🏌️♂️💪🏻
I’m wondering if that session with that high level player was more of a “feel” (not real) for that particular golfer. Many videos I’ve viewed thru the years have been confusing to say the least with regard to NOT differentiating between feel/real of that particular lesson. I tend to retain/understand the most when the instructor points out both the “feel vs. real” aspects of the lesson and the importance between the two…and pointing out that your “feel” and my “feel” can be miles apart but effective with regard to that individual. Anyway, great vids and “imperial evidence” on this channel with the receipts to back them up.
Echoing their answer - The 3D modeling absolutely busts so many 'traditional' methods out of the water, nevermind the video illusions created by 2D video of the pros on TV. I just saw a video of a Pro saying, the arms swing turn the body, when nothing could be further from the truth. Your eyes will see for themselves what Tour Pros *really* do with the Gears technology. Seek out some of those videos for empirical evidence of what really should happen in a swing..
I’m 68 still in good shape, been golfing for ten years and have tried about everything but stay so confused with conflicting instructions that I have decided to give up on the sport. I have took lessons and even been fitted for equipment and have been a club builder and fitter myself some but I just can’t grasp it. I excelled in other things but my average score in the mid 90’s isn’t any fun for me.
AMG is a godsend, I actually had coaches telling me to squat during my downswing and to keep my back leg straight, the swing is so much easier when you don’t do that 🤦♂️
Hi guys. While this video is invaluable , is it not just another SWING THOUGHT for us average golfers to deal with? I'm sure that you would agree with Ben Hogan's instruction on this very subject. In his book POWER GOLF he says "THE TURNING OF YOUR LEFT HIP BRINGS YOUR HANDS AND CLUB DOWN TOWARD THE BALL APPROXIMATELY THREE FEET" I offer this insight with the greatest respect to you guys
I have a question regarding spine tilt that was addressed in this video. Why are highly regarded coaches like Mike Bender and Kyle Morris huge advocates for spine tilt at address when you're showing the biomechanics argue against it? Those two coaches teach the spine tilt at address to help with in to out path. I am just curious about a more full explanation for/against it.
We use measured data of world class players to help players understand what they need to do. Other coaches are free to teach what they feel helps their players 💪🏻🏌️♂️
@AthleticMotionGolf Thanks for the reply and that totally makes sense! I'm wondering if you can touch further on that and just highlight why those coaches might teach that. I'm guessing it isn't an ignorance thing. I just want to know if, at what point something like that needs to be disregarded in their coaching program that is being followed if you're advocating against what they teach. I'm just trying to gather information from both sides!
I always enjoy your videos but why don't you ever do gears on hogan? Would like to see his stats? So hogan did 5 things in his swing, he kept the clubface in a square position, he shoulder turn was over 90 degrees, he went behind the tush line the entire swing, he has a grip that was strong enough to slightly close face at impact. And he had connection in the right arm. The reason you don't do a video on a 90 plus shoulder turn is you don't understand how to activate the right shoulder on backswing, its connection with extension and left side bend and closed clubface! Next is the tush line and how to get behind it like hogan. Thats turning the right hip on backswing and turning left hip on downswing then a lateral slide of weight to left foot, hogan also shallowed the club in transition. So in summation the tour swing is a 90 plus degree shoulder turn with square clubface, swallowing the club with square clubface, rotation going behind the tush line in backswing and downswing then a lateral shift to left foot. I can do all this in my swing, I know its technical but only hogan can unlock your gears to a higher level. Thanks
I love everything you guys say and I think it is 100 percent accurate. However, there is absolutely no way an average golfer can just learn these positions by “getting into them”. These positions are all dynamic that happen through great golfers making great motion. I have tried for years to just “copy these positions “ with little to no luck. You have to understand how these players get there dynamically (through motion) to have any chance at all of creating these positions
Bad golfers, average golfers, good golfers, and great golfers all learn new things the same way. By going slow enough to create the new movement they are working on, and they use feedback, not feel, to validate it being correct. Luck plays no part in the process. Pros are disciplined to do it until the thing is learned. 98% of ams quit the process in the “valley of despair.”
It’s almost like you guys have the knowledge of pros but know more about amateur swings than anyone. I mean that as a compliment. Just showing what you are supposed to do isn’t as helpful as showing why and the common amateur mistakes. I started as an adult and playing the ball down PGA rules I’m an 88-90 player. May not seem like a good score but when I play with guys shooting in the 80’s that are losing 12 balls a round it’s very good. Obviously they aren’t adding on the 36 strokes that came with the dozen balls they lost.
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If your a golfer who wants to get better, take this vid to the range, put it on a loop, and do exactly what AMG says. Work on the sequence a piece at time and film yourself. You will be taking your buddies money in no time. But it takes work and dealing with frustration. Went from an 18 to a 3. I’m not a young guy and I outdrive just about everyone in my men’s group. Even the flat belly guys. When they pull a 7 and I’m pulling a PW they joke around a lot by saying I really need to hit from the tips. I’m starting to get the feeling they aren’t really joking.
Thank you for the kind words !!
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Nuggets of wisdom here.
You know already how I feel about this, from the Shallowing video, 100% pure 🥇.. I know people are probably afraid of lowering their arms, but I'm here to tell you it has made, and has continued to make a world of difference in my game, both quality of strike and distance. Keep it up guys, love it! 🔥👍
Let’s go 🙌👊
Spent the last few months working on shallowing on my downswing and wondered why my best sessions had the feeling of my club staying behind me in my turn. This has cleared up so much thank you
Fantastic!
This is such a valuable lesson thank you so much! No one ever could really explain the arm motion to me until your videos, thanks again
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As a golf coach, this is one of your best videos yet. It not only clarified things for me but also covered the essential but rarely mentioned keys to the swing.
Thank you happy it helped !
I started golfing for the first time this summer.
My goal was to break 90. I started this summer at a 112. Thanks to channels like you all, JKM, D Maude, Good good, I shot an 85 from the white tees last weekend. Accomplished my goal in less than 3 months.
Thank you all A TON
Let’s go🍻. Next is something that starts with a 7 👊😉
Same! watching these two took my score from 130 to 82!!!!! I was so shocked. It all came down to hitting straight and correctly, hitting good chips, and not two putting. EDIT: Danny is also such a great teacher! Check out "the art of simple golf" as well he has some good tips.
I’ve watched all your videos. This may be the best one yet. Thanks for all you do.
Wow thank you!!!!
Great job guys. One of the things I've learnt is that the ultimate purpose of the backswing is to set you up for success in the downswing. This video adds detail to that in regards to rotation. Keep up the great work guys.
Really like the bit @4:00 showing arms movement without body turn. Would love to have a video on this backswing & downswing. Do the arms really move more or less up and down vertically? If so I need help to see and learn how they move through impact and up into the finish. Or perhaps to clarify whether there is any throw of the club towards the target (alpha rotation along the beta plane if not mistaken) using the hands and arms or are we
Thanks fellas! Great stuff here & much appreciated ❤
Check out Shallowing Like You've Never Seen Before, absolutely the Holy Grail to see this in great detail with 3D modeling. It's a 💡 bulb moment for sure. You won't believe it, and the difference in your ball striking if you implement what they show you will be pretty dramatic, it sure has been for me!
I've watched 100's of RUclips videos about the golf swing, but this is the first one I ever remember that tied these 4 things together and the secret sauce to it all is the part about the knees. Great video!!!
I just want to say that Shawn and Mike have done such a thorough job of understanding the intricacies of how the golf swing works. There is so much false and poorly communicated information out there. Shawn and Mike not only present the facts, but they present it in a clear and concise way. I have been a PGA coach for over 20 years now and I’m a big advocate for what information is presented here. Well done gentleman. Keep seeking truth.
Great instruction again, you guys have cleared up so many misconceptions of the golf swing we were led to believe years ago with all your video's! Thanks!
Thanks for the kind words !
Not just great info, but explained in perfect degree of detail where we can easily understand why it works. Bravo and thanks,
Thanks for watching 👊😊
Great Video. The last 2mins (L hip back) I now know is where I was personally going wrong. Now that this part has been explained, I can see it so clearly simple - how did I not know this!. The best coaches make it simple and easy to understand.
This is legitimately the best lesson I've ever seen. The task in front of me is clear. Thanks guys.
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Unbelievable video. You guys are so good at building conceptual understanding, proving said conceptual info (making it fact), then stacking each concept to build the whole swing/golfer understanding. Thank you for all of your content and effort to educate the golfing populous!
Thank you!!!!
This is such a great explanation of hip and knee action! Thank You
Best video ever!! Alot of coaches and players can learn so much from this! Its all measured! Brilliant stuff! Well done fella's great work as always! 👍👍👍
Much appreciated!
Still one the clearest and truest explanation/demo of the arm/body turn relationship. Thanks AMG for such hi quality content. Enjoying and utilizing everything you are putting out there time and time again. Simple the best.
@@centurionboss4597 thank you 🙏🏻
This is easily the best golf advice online.
Great video. All great points; very relevant to my swing. Thanks!
Great lesson-- thanks Mike and shawn 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Thank you so much !!!
This is THE video to watch if you want to understand the golf swing. 👏🤝
Thank you so much for finally clarifying that "squat" movement. I always intuitively felt that was nonsense, but you see it so much in golf instruction.
It’s nonsense
Only video you need. Good job boys!
Thank you!!
This is possibly the absolute best video on how to hit pure golf shots in all the inter webs. I echo the post below mine. If you want a great golf swing, slowly piece these nuggets together. Go to the range and practice this at half speed week after week. You will have many aha moments along with a fantastic swing. 🔥
great info. and now with special effects. love it
Glad you liked it!
Rewatched the video of the live lesson on turning has changed my game y’all are the 🐐🐐
Your standard for 🐐 is too low😊. Thank you for the kind words!
Love how you guys teach the concepts that enable the brain/body to react automatically and in the correct way. In other words, "give the body a reason to rotate" vs. giving it a reason to early extend (or stop rotating). Epic!! And love the AMG gear, I need to order some hats!
Thank you!!! Hats are on our website for sale now!!
I felt like the right hip was driving toward the target with the left hip / leg the rotating axis. No one ever told me this. This is gold, thanks guys, can’t wait to try this!
Glad it helped!
Wow the reason to rotate indeed! Saved for reference during practice!
Thank you so much for this video. The explanation of how the trail arm needs to unfold while still getting the elbow in front of the trail hip was enlightening. My elbow was getting in front of the hip while my trail bicep was flexing more and this was making me way over the top. Funny enough, I played hockey for 20 years and this is exactly how you make impact with a slap shot.
Really helpful, the knee work in-particular. Question: in the same way you move the trail knee out in the downswing, would you mirror that in the takeaway with the left, thereby moving right hip back?
@@DavidBeaumont-i7s yes, you got it 🙌
As the arms are lowering at what point does the rotation begin, where are the hands in reference to the body ?
Rotation of the pelvis begins and trunk begins before arms start down
@@AthleticMotionGolf Whoa. Then that would seem to mean that the hands/arms must be rotating in the opposite direction - and not merely dropping - in order to appear to be merely (mostly) dropping in the DTL video, no? If so, then a "feel" for such a move would sure be nice to have. Maybe something like the tail end of an "out-to-in" loop? Now that I think about it, maybe that's an aspect of that Justin Rose "pump drill" that I haven't picked up on.
I was 7 handicap who played with a fundamentally unsound swing, frustrated that (as an elite athlete in several other sports) I couldn’t produce shots as accurate or long as many less-athletic golfers. As a student of the swing and an engineer, I’ve studied all the golf instruction books, from Hogan’s Five Lessons on, but none of them addressed the “modern” swing like this video. So, 20 years later, finally, I have hope I can develop a swing that uses the body to produce a more reliable, powerful swing. Most importantly, this shows how you arrive at the key checkpoint positions. These guys’ videos with the scientific approach ( what the pros do vs. ams) is the best analytical approach I’ve found. THANK YOU!
Thanks for the kind words. Awesome to hear the videos are helping 👊🙂
Mike Austin said to move the right knee toward the ball to get the left hip to turn left.
Really enjoyed this video, guys! Great job!
Thanks so much!
Brilliant video once again from Mike and Shaun. It's just a pity I can't play Golf anymore, but keep up the Great Work Guys.
We appreciate you!
Such an underrated channel!!
Thank you 💪🏻
Great stuff as always! Keeping the centers on top of one another is super huge
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Looks nice in slo-mo but how do i supply force--pull arms down hard or focus on rotating hard, or somehow both? Also, does not look like throwing the club, as some teachers advocate (leading with cocked trail elbow ); are they wrong ? Thank you.
The idea of getting the trail leg (right leg) vertical really worked for me. It allowed me to be a lot more consistent with hitting the ball first. I feel like when I try to bank the foot in helps me get the left hip open.
Awesome 👌 love this. I believe I heard Pete Cowan say to Heideki...the lowering of the arms is what creates the turn...
Love it!
This video is great...im a feel player so i like this.
Confirms what ive been doing wrong as my hands have obviously been coming out towards the ball...
The bicep down then arms then wrists and hands to pocket hepls me alot...
Following this along my hands feel like they lower so far behind me compared to what im currently doing, it doesnt feel like i can get back to the ball with my standard swing mechanics...
Going to slowly get this arm/club movement into my swing.
Atleast i will know if the club etc is in the right spot...
My body will organise itself around that correctly or atleast close to make it functional.
Sir , how the arms work during rotation during downswing after impact?
Amazing detail and so easy to understand!
Glad to hear that!
I try not to watch much golf tips/instruction on line, simply because I don't want to start doing things that contradict what my teacher is having me work on. However I find your information (backed by the use of gears) very intriguing. The one thing that I find great in this video, along with others where you have mentioned the same thing, is the unfolding of the arms on the way back to the ball. There is so much out there about turn/tilt/side bend that we often forget the arms have to move as well. When I practice (slowly) lowering the bicep, unfolding at the elbow, and unhinging the wrist just makes everything fall into place. The club shallows and approaches from the inside. The swing feels free and smooth. The lowering and unfolding of the arms seems to just naturally make other things happen without even thinking or trying.
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All the pieces of the jigsaw in this video - this vid is really all you need to have a great golf swing.
The only bit which I thought was missing (based on one of your previous vids!) was making sure you have hip tilt on the backswing (if your hips are too flat then the legs/knees cant move like you say they should).
Keep the vids coming - would be great if you could do one on tempo and tips on how not to “kill the ball” on the downswing 👍
Tip: don’t try to kill the ball 👊😊
@@AthleticMotionGolf lol I’ll give it a go, can’t promise anything tho💪
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this is another good one and i know it's gonna help, thnx.
Thank you!
HI Mike and Shaun, great Video, After shift ,yes I'm guilty of thinking the left leg goes back at 15 .26 Mark, Light bulb moment, the left glute stays on the wall and leg straightens, then the right hip /leg comes around . cheers ill watch it a few more time
to make sure its clear but thanks guys ,cheers mal
You guys are the best👍
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Thanks for dispelling the squat myth, I've trying to explain that for years. I see guys teaching people to squat and believe it's counterproductive all the way around. Keep up the good work
Trust those instincts they are right on 🎯👏
Love these videos! What is the line between early extension on the trail leg to properly lifting the trail leg as your left hip rotates around / left leg straighten?
Does the majority of weight stay on the front leg throughout the swing
Big video for improvement thanks
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how do you put the segments together in .08 sec and make corrections
Long time fan! Great video. Video request: Gears is awesome and you have used a similar persoective before. Camera pointed at sternum of golfer and remains there as golfer rotates. Should be able to clearly see the true path of the arm swing relative to the front of the torso. I think the trace would be eye-opening for across the body swingers and for matching up turn with arms in back swing.
Good stuff! Thanks gents.
YUGE 😉
Great video guys.
Thanks so much!
Great lesson, gents!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great video !
Muchas gracias.. GRAN APORTE.
🔥🔥🔥 as always 👌
Thank you!!
Right knee is a bit lower than the left knee at impact right? Thx for the awesome videos guys! Ive been with yall since the beginning!!
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I’ve really been struggling more than ever this year…shanks, thins, fats, slices…you name it, it’s happened to me this season. Past 2 years I have been averaging an 85…consistently in the 80’s. Now I can’t even break 100. I think part of it is mental, but I think I had forgotten these key essentials. I’ll put it to the test at my next range session…thanks AMG.
Ok let us know how it goes !
@@AthleticMotionGolf sure will. I’m confident I can reclaim my game and hopefully make it better than it was before.
30 years of swaying instead of turning, just learned the correct move. Golf is better now.
Great!!!
Great video
Genius observation
Do you guys have a video which talks about recentering + right-hip into impact.
My bad-tendency is to get ‘slidey’. It starts from a slide on the backswing - instead of a turn,
& then from the top - the left hip slides, I don’t ‘plant’ properly, & the right hip ends up being a passenger.
When I’m swinging well, I make a much better ‘turn’, & on the downswing, I feel like my right-hip ‘pressures’ the ground & brings me into a nice balanced powerful position into impact - then there is good balance & effortless power.
Great videos as always - for me, it’s always about turning the turning the upper body on the way back, & then the right hip on the way down.
Yes it’s here on our RUclips channel we cover it in detail
I feel like this video was created just for me. Amazing content I’ve been wondering if this is the correct hand path by trial and error it’s so much easier to move forward with the confidence of how it’s supposed to be done. Love your data driven approach. ❤
It was 🤓
I was going to type the same thing. Especially the last third of the video.
Pure gold💰💰💰💰
Been trying to improve my game watching your videos. I get a little confused as to what my arms should be doing. I hear you say sometimes that the arms swing around and at other times the arms lift up? It gets me hesitant at start of my back swing as to which I should be doing.
The lead cheek would be on the wall at contact and it would not be on the wall at full backswing? So there is a bit of movement left and a fist's worth forward during the swing?
You got it👊
What should wrist feel during arm unfolding/lowering? Structure or loose and floppy?
What’s your best guess?
I would think maintain the structure but it feels like I’m “holding” lag
Check out Shallowing Like You've Never Seen Before for unmistakable evidence of what the trail arm and wrist should do and look like as the lowering and unfolding occurs. Game changer...
I’m following this advice but I’m getting sky-high push-slices and dive-bombing hooks. Recorded myself in slow motion and it seems that this type of turn is giving me a low-point that’s about in-line with the lead foot meaning it is square and rising just outside the lead foot. The swing is hitting a lot of nice checkpoints but the impact position is all wrong. Any ideas?
dang, where yall boys been?
thanks for video
We’ve been right here !! Haha. Thank you!
Does this allow for the bottom-line effect of allowing the clubhead to be swung/thrown? The player is now able to feel both the clubhead and the face. the weight at the end of the shaft and the speed of the clubhead. The clubhead moves faster; feels faster. At the end of the downswing, the body is moving in response to the clubhead/weight on the end of the club and carries the player into the finish. This seems similar to throwing a baseball/football; instincts will do it without having to think about 15 different things. It’s like developing the feel of casting a sinker on the end of a fishing rod; flow, not hit. The weight of the clubhead pulls the player into the finish!
My son has a flat inside back swing with not much hand set. He has started to shank the ball here and there and it’s caused some confidence issues. What drills can he do to get his back swing in a better position. He also has a short back swing
Would need to see the swing. Is he swinging too much from the inside ?
Does the speed at which you lower your arms affect your overall club head speed? I ask this because it seems to for me…. Maybe it’s only because if I lower them faster I have to pivot faster (seemingly) but not sure of the dynamics on this…thanks for the great videos!
I would like to clarify my question in that since the arms don’t “swipe across the body” in your words I assume they just move forward from the pivot. If that truly is the case than would lowering the arms into position faster in and of itself crate faster club head speed assuming everything else is done correctly…,sorry if this is obvious but from a 2d perspective it’s not clear to me…
Guys, first off I am still amazed that there are teachers of the golf swing in instagram land who will dispute the arms have to raise and then, surprise, lower. Secondly you talk about being fooled by still images and video. As a teenager when I first picked up a golf club the first thing I did was read my fathers Golf Digest Magazines and through a few instruction books that let’s just say were questionable instruction. Literally, for years and years I was so screwed up that I quit the game for a long time before picking it up about a year and a half ago. Through you guys and a few other great teachers the game is fun again and I know when I am practicing I am doing the correct things to get better.
Thank you!!!!
How does a driver swing differ to this?
setup
A follow-up that would be interesting to see is this video is combination with peak ground force. Don't you want your peak vertical to occur before the club is shaft parallel in the downswing?
We did a video on this in great detail using dual force plates
@@AthleticMotionGolf is it posted?
I've tried so hard to "squat" that my left leg NEVER straightens out at impact or even after for that matter. And now to find out the "squat" is an optical illusion (beautifully explained btw) is nuts. I've struggled a lot with not being able to open my hips even though I have the first 2 parts correct. CAN'T THANK YOU GUYS ENOUGH........And I'm a little pissed to boot lol
Fully on board with all of the tips here, but it is curious how opposite some coaches feel about this. I've seen a video from Dana Dahlquist recently where he teaches a high level player to do at least three of the wrong things here in this video. He advocated: Leave the arms up, spin the pelvis open and left hip back away immediately in transition, and create max separation
We used 3d data from pga tour winners and major champions to show and help people what actually happens in high level golf swings. Everyone else is free to teach how they want and what they want. 🏌️♂️💪🏻
I’m wondering if that session with that high level player was more of a “feel” (not real) for that particular golfer. Many videos I’ve viewed thru the years have been confusing to say the least with regard to NOT differentiating between feel/real of that particular lesson. I tend to retain/understand the most when the instructor points out both the “feel vs. real” aspects of the lesson and the importance between the two…and pointing out that your “feel” and my “feel” can be miles apart but effective with regard to that individual. Anyway, great vids and “imperial evidence” on this channel with the receipts to back them up.
Echoing their answer - The 3D modeling absolutely busts so many 'traditional' methods out of the water, nevermind the video illusions created by 2D video of the pros on TV. I just saw a video of a Pro saying, the arms swing turn the body, when nothing could be further from the truth. Your eyes will see for themselves what Tour Pros *really* do with the Gears technology. Seek out some of those videos for empirical evidence of what really should happen in a swing..
Any difference for driver?
James beat me to it 👍
Thanks guys!
Do this 👆and your handicap will go 👇great video.🙏
Why you guys don't have a TV show is a question I would love to have answered. I could binge watch you guys on TV. GET ON TV PLEASE!
We have faces for radio though 😅
I am an audio engineer I will do your post production for free 🤣@@AthleticMotionGolf
This right here is the holy grail
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I’m 68 still in good shape, been golfing for ten years and have tried about everything but stay so confused with conflicting instructions that I have decided to give up on the sport. I have took lessons and even been fitted for equipment and have been a club builder and fitter myself some but I just can’t grasp it. I excelled in other things but my average score in the mid 90’s isn’t any fun for me.
Monte approves!
We love Monte !
AMG is a godsend, I actually had coaches telling me to squat during my downswing and to keep my back leg straight, the swing is so much easier when you don’t do that 🤦♂️
AMG & Dr Kwon is all i need! Beautiful relationship
We first went to Dr. Kwons lab to get measured around 13 years ago now 😎. He’s a smart guy!
Hi guys. While this video is invaluable , is it not just another SWING THOUGHT for us average golfers to deal with? I'm sure that you would agree with Ben Hogan's instruction on this very subject. In his book POWER GOLF he says "THE TURNING OF YOUR LEFT HIP BRINGS YOUR HANDS AND CLUB DOWN TOWARD THE BALL APPROXIMATELY THREE FEET" I offer this insight with the greatest respect to you guys
I have a question regarding spine tilt that was addressed in this video. Why are highly regarded coaches like Mike Bender and Kyle Morris huge advocates for spine tilt at address when you're showing the biomechanics argue against it? Those two coaches teach the spine tilt at address to help with in to out path. I am just curious about a more full explanation for/against it.
We use measured data of world class players to help players understand what they need to do. Other coaches are free to teach what they feel helps their players 💪🏻🏌️♂️
@AthleticMotionGolf Thanks for the reply and that totally makes sense! I'm wondering if you can touch further on that and just highlight why those coaches might teach that. I'm guessing it isn't an ignorance thing. I just want to know if, at what point something like that needs to be disregarded in their coaching program that is being followed if you're advocating against what they teach. I'm just trying to gather information from both sides!
I always enjoy your videos but why don't you ever do gears on hogan? Would like to see his stats? So hogan did 5 things in his swing, he kept the clubface in a square position, he shoulder turn was over 90 degrees, he went behind the tush line the entire swing, he has a grip that was strong enough to slightly close face at impact. And he had connection in the right arm. The reason you don't do a video on a 90 plus shoulder turn is you don't understand how to activate the right shoulder on backswing, its connection with extension and left side bend and closed clubface! Next is the tush line and how to get behind it like hogan. Thats turning the right hip on backswing and turning left hip on downswing then a lateral slide of weight to left foot, hogan also shallowed the club in transition. So in summation the tour swing is a 90 plus degree shoulder turn with square clubface, swallowing the club with square clubface, rotation going behind the tush line in backswing and downswing then a lateral shift to left foot. I can do all this in my swing, I know its technical but only hogan can unlock your gears to a higher level. Thanks
I love everything you guys say and I think it is 100 percent accurate. However, there is absolutely no way an average golfer can just learn these positions by “getting into them”. These positions are all dynamic that happen through great golfers making great motion. I have tried for years to just “copy these positions “ with little to no luck. You have to understand how these players get there dynamically (through motion) to have any chance at all of creating these positions
Bad golfers, average golfers, good golfers, and great golfers all learn new things the same way. By going slow enough to create the new movement they are working on, and they use feedback, not feel, to validate it being correct. Luck plays no part in the process. Pros are disciplined to do it until the thing is learned. 98% of ams quit the process in the “valley of despair.”
As Fantasy Island’s golf coach Tatoo has said “ it’s the plane it’s the plane.”
It’s so hard for me to feel the arms drop from the top. When I do this I lose so much distance.
The goal isn’t to “feel” it, it’s to do it 😉. Are you filming to see what’s happening?
@@AthleticMotionGolf yes I film all the time…so is it a drop to start the down swing? Almost like throwing a ball down to the ground?
@@AthleticMotionGolf I actually captured my swing on gears down in Georgia with Mike a while back. I’d be curious if I was dropping my arms back then.
@@bogey2528 what’s last name and first initial and I’ll check👍
@@AthleticMotionGolf Bogan, S.
If S doesn’t work, might be a T. Thank you🙏🙏
It’s almost like you guys have the knowledge of pros but know more about amateur swings than anyone. I mean that as a compliment. Just showing what you are supposed to do isn’t as helpful as showing why and the common amateur mistakes. I started as an adult and playing the ball down PGA rules I’m an 88-90 player. May not seem like a good score but when I play with guys shooting in the 80’s that are losing 12 balls a round it’s very good. Obviously they aren’t adding on the 36 strokes that came with the dozen balls they lost.
Thanks for the compliment 🙏🏻👊. Keep at it your be in the low 80’s before you know it!