2023 Nissan Z 9AT vs 2022 Toyota Supra 8AT, the unexpected happens! Drag and Roll Race.

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  • Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
  • 2023 Nissan Z 9AT vs 2022 Toyota Supra 8AT, the unexpected happens! Drag and Roll Race.
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  • @SamCarLegion
    @SamCarLegion  Год назад +504

    BMW really made a great Supra! Please read the comments here: instagram.com/p/BspaYctnZVl/?igshid=NDc0ODY0MjQ=

    • @bmo7784
      @bmo7784 Год назад +16

      I'm pretty sure it's not that simple! LOL 😂

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +81

      B58 > VR30 just that simple

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus Год назад +10

      @@bmo7784 Toyota's a BMW tuner company sort of like Alpina.

    • @Mund333M
      @Mund333M Год назад +27

      it is only made by BMW, all optimizations and settings are made by Toyota itself, what do you think why it is a lot faster than the Z4m with the same engine

    • @elenchus
      @elenchus Год назад +11

      @@Mund333M totally agreed, Toyota's a very good tuner. I love their bodykit too.

  • @avis1978
    @avis1978 Год назад +624

    It's not just the tires difference. It's also the HP\torque difference. A different channel ( savgegeese) did a dyno and a very in depth comparison test on both cars at the same place, and the Z has only 372hp\362t and the supra has 397hp\423t + the zf transmission.

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +144

      B58 ftw

    • @evanleo7633
      @evanleo7633 Год назад +87

      BMW also has better software for their traction control

    • @yuanlee6405
      @yuanlee6405 Год назад +26

      @@BabaYagaRacing yessir no hate but i love the new Z but still supra for me

    • @mattrancho
      @mattrancho Год назад +83

      True, & BMW always underrate their HP, so I guess Supra falls under that category. The Supra is also 200 pounds lighter than the new Z, which really shows in the higher speeds (especially in the roll races). Even though I still want the Z over the Supra, I love the supra even more now that they came out with Manual.

    • @onlysublime
      @onlysublime Год назад +13

      It's also the power to weight ratio.

  • @kcirreb94
    @kcirreb94 Год назад +404

    Based on the title got me thinking the z would win lol. This outcome was very much expected haha

    • @shabanajannik2600
      @shabanajannik2600 Год назад +3

      Exactly

    • @wendellmotton4982
      @wendellmotton4982 Год назад +3

      Can you delete your comment? Your comment is easily seen at the clicking on the video and it spoils it for everyone else

    • @robsnow2099
      @robsnow2099 Год назад +49

      @@wendellmotton4982 no ...the title is click bait.

    • @davevolz6138
      @davevolz6138 Год назад +1

      C l i k B a i t

    • @Albee166
      @Albee166 Год назад

      This is hilarious

  • @joshuato579
    @joshuato579 Год назад +86

    The dude in the supra has a funny poker face as he casually gaps the Z lol

    • @jimwallace4164
      @jimwallace4164 Год назад +17

      Dude in the Supra is an A+ guy and his car is capable of gapping a lot of other cars. Cool as a cucumber.

  • @HanabiiiUwU
    @HanabiiiUwU Год назад +63

    Even if the Supra is faster, it's nice that we have the choice between two great cars. They both feel different, so just choose which one feels best to you!

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 Год назад +6

      Except dealers just told enthusiasts to f off with markups.

  • @STICKSHFT
    @STICKSHFT Год назад +82

    I don’t think anyone at all was surprised by these results. Nothing was unexpected

    • @sv96jo
      @sv96jo Год назад

      Well i do

    • @STICKSHFT
      @STICKSHFT Год назад +4

      @@sv96jo well you’re the only one who thought that a 20 year old chassis with a parts bin motor/transmission combo from Nissan would keep up with much more modern design from bmw

    • @ets419
      @ets419 6 месяцев назад

      The powertrain is newer than the supras lol, chassis doesn’t make difference in a head to head lmfao, I could get a c6 vette for half the price and smoke both these on a chassis that 40 years old

    • @STICKSHFT
      @STICKSHFT 6 месяцев назад

      @@ets419 what’s your point? You were shocked that the vq30ddtt got smoked by a b58? Congratulations for being the only one on the internet to be surprised

    • @STICKSHFT
      @STICKSHFT 6 месяцев назад

      @@ets419 also chasis has a huge role in putting power down. A c6 corvette makes 430 hp/ 430 ft lbs. Much more hp and torque than an mk 5 Supra and its lighter but is slower in the quarter mile. Yes you could make the c6 faster but it would need much more power to do it

  • @NvSrAgE679
    @NvSrAgE679 Год назад +226

    This is exactly how you’d think this would go. Unless you expected a bigger gap by the Supra.

    • @NvSrAgE679
      @NvSrAgE679 Год назад +3

      @Catholic Firefighter just to clarify, we in Canada refer to it as the Hostage Convoy.

    • @ThatCarGuy1000
      @ThatCarGuy1000 Год назад

      @@NvSrAgE679 now I wonder what you’re replying to😂

    • @NvSrAgE679
      @NvSrAgE679 Год назад +2

      @@ThatCarGuy1000 some nonsense that had nothing to do with this video. they removed it

    • @ThatCarGuy1000
      @ThatCarGuy1000 Год назад +1

      @@NvSrAgE679 I can guess. Lol we have tinfoil hat guys here in Stabitoba Winterpeg too😂

    • @buildmorefarms1007
      @buildmorefarms1007 Год назад +1

      It costs 8 grand more than the Nissan....8 grand in mods and the Supra is in the dust

  • @mattyoz0
    @mattyoz0 Год назад +57

    There's one more thing the supra does over z that these races didn't show. It absolutely destroys the z around a track.

    • @boygonewhoopdataZZ
      @boygonewhoopdataZZ Год назад +14

      Yea.... One is German engineered and tuned by Japanese hands while the other is a fully inferior Japanese half assery.

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 Год назад +3

      @DaxieStudioz what's not true?

    • @ChaperoneKnight
      @ChaperoneKnight Год назад +11

      @DaxieStudioz if you're saying the Z would beat the Supra on a track you're dead wrong my guy

    • @airsoftfamilyasf843
      @airsoftfamilyasf843 Год назад +11

      Umm , do you not research? The Z gets destroyed by the GR86 around a track lol.

  • @doorkicker8507
    @doorkicker8507 Год назад +29

    I remember all those people that said “ Wait till the new Z comes out. It will smoke the Supra”. Well it’s out and who’s smoking who. Even AMS said the Supra would walk this Z. And they are the leading authority on this motor and mods.

    • @302daddyd
      @302daddyd Год назад +12

      Yeah I remember all those trolls and they were trolling hard. Now they're no where to be found. I'm sure they're in the cave crying, lol.

    • @beexiong2995
      @beexiong2995 Год назад +5

      @@302daddyd they are the ones saying its a drivers car with a manual. Now the supra has a manual too lol. So much for marketing

    • @vidademikey9790
      @vidademikey9790 Год назад +4

      BuT wE gOt A mAnuAl. Hah. Now so does the supra. Got em!

    • @germancruz3318
      @germancruz3318 Год назад +1

      I remember that too XD

  • @francisgomes9976
    @francisgomes9976 Год назад +12

    You are clearly biased toward Nissan Z still got killer every possible way. Won 2nd roll by jumping early...

  • @YTkingcherry
    @YTkingcherry Год назад +7

    Remember those numbers on the Supra isn’t BHP is WHP 😅

  • @simjet22
    @simjet22 Год назад +14

    B58 is a MONSTER

    • @eduram
      @eduram Месяц назад

      Monster locked on Toyota car to be tune :(

  • @jamisonjamisonx
    @jamisonjamisonx Год назад +3

    Remember when Nissan made quality cars? I barely do, it was a loooong time ago. That interior looks like all hard molded plastic & cardboard wrapped in pleather and spray painted blue. It's wild when Corvette has a miles-better interior.

  • @msrr1303
    @msrr1303 Год назад +4

    Newer/better chassis, better engine, better transmission, better tires and lower curb weight.
    Really don’t see any reason to pick the Z over Supra.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +2

      10k cheaper :) and low cost maintenance since it’s not a BMW

    • @e7bk
      @e7bk Год назад

      @@SamCarLegion but why you pay 60k$ for a 2 doors car if you don't have maintenance money??

  • @EverdayCarGuy
    @EverdayCarGuy Год назад +46

    You can say better tires and better transmission 1,000 times but you might as well just say better car.

    • @rivneo1
      @rivneo1 Год назад +5

      That also cost another 10k to get.

    • @sv96jo
      @sv96jo Год назад

      No the Z is heavier

  • @pssita
    @pssita Год назад +65

    That extra 10k. I thought the Zs were selling for 100k+. 😂

    • @yomamapked
      @yomamapked Год назад +8

      I’ve seen people buy the new Z for 70k+. I hope they are happy with their purchase, for that amount of money you could get supra+mods

    • @Jihadbearzwithgunz
      @Jihadbearzwithgunz Год назад +1

      @@yomamapked yeah 30k markup is ridiculous to say the least wouldn't pay 70k for it unless it made double the power it currently makes and maybe was awd

    • @priceverity5289
      @priceverity5289 Год назад +6

      @@cumhugs Personally I’m glad that the car is BMW. Toyotas interiors look and feel much cheaper in comparison.

    • @KillaRock404
      @KillaRock404 Год назад +1

      First year sports cars usually see a markup. Sometimes it’s just better to wait

    • @Sweet_Jelly39
      @Sweet_Jelly39 Год назад

      @@priceverity5289 Isn't BMW only made engine? Everything else is Toyota?💀 But i agree with you tho'.
      Mercedes probably had the best looking interior follow by BMW, Hyundai/Kia and Honda.
      Toyota not known for best interior💀 but sh1t damn reliable! Tho.

  • @Off-Road10
    @Off-Road10 Год назад +7

    Looks like Toyota knew what they were doing when they teamed up with bmw😂😂.

  • @BrownSofaGamer
    @BrownSofaGamer Год назад +4

    All the Z fans are gonna try and justify why it lost now, even though it’s still just a Q50 in a 370Z chassis. Still can’t believe people think BMW making the Supra is a bad thing when it’s slaughtering the Z in all aspects, and Toyota would’ve never been able to do that on their own. Also why does everyone throw tuning into the argument, like the Supra isn’t the better tuning platform too.

    • @testing448
      @testing448 Год назад

      Yet Toyota still doesn’t have an answers to the GTR

    • @testing448
      @testing448 Год назад

      And yes it’s a bad thing instead of making doing it themselves they had someone else do it for them. Everything in that Z is strictly Nissan and it didn’t do half bad. I mean even Toyota LFA 1LR-GUE was develop by Yamaha and Toyota GR86 from Subaru cmon Toyota. I’m not hating but it’s just facts.

    • @BrownSofaGamer
      @BrownSofaGamer Год назад

      @@testing448 Toyota doesn’t need an answer to the GTR.

    • @BrownSofaGamer
      @BrownSofaGamer Год назад

      @@testing448 There’s nothing wrong with Toyota not doing themselves, because they couldn’t have. The end result we got is a great sports car, and one that’s better than the Z, and yet people complain and want to act like Nissans a better car company than BMW, which it isn’t lol. If that’s literally the only thing Z fans can argue over the Supra then that’s grasping at straws.

    • @testing448
      @testing448 Год назад

      @@BrownSofaGamer I get you and I’ve been an avid Nissan fan for many years. My first Nissan was a 1991 Nissan Sentra SE-R, then came to a 300zx TT, SE-R spec v, a couple of g37 coupes and sedans. 350z and a Q50. I now own a 2017 Q60RS400 which is the same motor on that new Z. I’ve owned one BMW e92 coupe m3 which I loved to death but it came along with a lot of issues and left me stranded a couple of times. As far as technology goes BMW takes the lead with superior engineering but Nissan has a more championship caliber racing heritage than BMW and even Toyota. GTR was banned from racing back then it just dominated the European league. Stock for stock the new Supra is better but when it comes to modding I’m already seeing modded Q50 and Q60 giving a modded new Supra hell.

  • @katrinagwen
    @katrinagwen Год назад +14

    Not just the transmission…but the torque-to-weight ratio.

    • @Shrek_Holmes
      @Shrek_Holmes Месяц назад

      I think the biggest issue is neither, but rather the aero. look at the Z, it basically looks like a slightly lowered SUV. it has worse aero than sedans.

  • @DatnaPatna
    @DatnaPatna 11 месяцев назад +3

    The "Supra killer" according to the Z fanboys :D

  • @urbannomad8126
    @urbannomad8126 Год назад +26

    That BMW I6 is brutal. In all applications. 240, 440… etc.

    • @Dyesnipa
      @Dyesnipa Год назад +1

      I picked up a 2020 m240... What an engine!

    • @twebb5896
      @twebb5896 Год назад +1

      @@Dyesnipa I have a had a 2020 M240 since January and I love it!

  • @aehmerchant
    @aehmerchant Год назад +46

    The BMW Supra driver has the look on his face that’s says “I am so tired of winning so easily”

    • @2009polostar
      @2009polostar Год назад +2

      That's right. A BMW Supra.

    • @jedispartancoolman
      @jedispartancoolman Год назад +1

      Still a supra at the end of the day licensed by Toyota

    • @jona199924
      @jona199924 11 месяцев назад

      ​@@jedispartancoolmanwith a bmw heart. It'll always be a bmw 😂

    • @jedispartancoolman
      @jedispartancoolman 11 месяцев назад

      @jona199924 my man saying that like an Mspec BMW motor ain't a pedigree

    • @jedispartancoolman
      @jedispartancoolman 11 месяцев назад

      @@jona199924 🤣

  • @Ry.Guy.
    @Ry.Guy. Год назад +32

    This is some awesome break in time for the Z 🤣🤣

  • @user-dr4iu8mg5u
    @user-dr4iu8mg5u Год назад +2

    I remember Nissan fanboys were saying this new Z was gonna smoked the new supra.... Where are they now? It's been proven several times that Supra is faster, and it's not the tires, you're not running 800 hp under the hood.

  • @mqbr22
    @mqbr22 Год назад +30

    I bet you could swap tires and the Nissan would still loose. There is more to a car getting traction besides tires. Pretty awesome video but maybe try to stage more even? The Supra was always like a car length behind the Nissan at the start of the race

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +17

      The new Z is a flop

    • @flip90925
      @flip90925 Год назад +3

      @@BabaYagaRacing can't wait to see you giving them the sauce

    • @mqbr22
      @mqbr22 Год назад +11

      @@BabaYagaRacing imagine buying a Nissan Z and not the Supra haha

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +12

      @@mqbr22 just delusional "jdm" fan boys lol

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 Год назад +7

      Yeah, he was trying so hard to give the Z an advantage.

  • @backtodalobbybot2754
    @backtodalobbybot2754 Год назад +20

    Nothing unexpected the supra has more hp than the Z

    • @sebastianbriones9597
      @sebastianbriones9597 Год назад

      More?

    • @mattyoz0
      @mattyoz0 Год назад +2

      @@sebastianbriones9597 yes more

    • @backtodalobbybot2754
      @backtodalobbybot2754 Год назад +9

      @@sebastianbriones9597 yes bmw always undermine their hp the “382”hp is most likely the whp which means the crank hp is more like 420-430

    • @Fr-zz5lm
      @Fr-zz5lm Год назад

      @@backtodalobbybot2754 emm no JAJAJAJA

    • @2012summr
      @2012summr Год назад +5

      @@Fr-zz5lm He's right, stock supras on 93 oct make 380+ to the wheels which would make it a 440+ horsepower car not sure what you disagree with.

  • @6844376
    @6844376 Год назад +21

    Gearing, 200lbs. less weight and more torque! Not so much the tires.. just my opinion. Great job 👍..

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +3

      It is the tires. The bridgestone are bad tires for drags

    • @6844376
      @6844376 Год назад +1

      Hey, you were there and I wasn't so you're absolutely right! More drags pls.. 👌

    • @Eugen-E
      @Eugen-E Год назад

      @@SamCarLegion Bridgestone Potenza Sport is as good as Pilot Sport 4S. Check Tyre-Reviews uk comparison.

    • @captainbarge
      @captainbarge Год назад +8

      @@SamCarLegion you know we have ears, right? Car wasn't spinning wheels most of the time you're saying it's spinning :D

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +8

      @@captainbarge you need to clear your ears or check your speakers. I am driving the car I know how the car drives. You are watching it on your phone.

  • @Nick-hz2kl
    @Nick-hz2kl Год назад +5

    Supra is an amazing car . I’m blessed to own a 2022 3.0 . I love it

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад

      You lucky BMW took care of the supra

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug4423 Год назад +54

    Nothing unexpected. The Supra puts out more power than is claimed on paper, plus has the ZF 8 speed which is the best conventional automatic money can buy. Also remember the Supra is lighter and has more torque. Base model Z definitely has lots of tuning potential at a fairly attractive price, but stock for stock the Supra is the better car.

    • @supremewhip
      @supremewhip Год назад +8

      Don’t forget - whatever tuning potential the Z has, multiple that 2x for the BMW.

    • @TerrannotOP
      @TerrannotOP Год назад +9

      Supra has way better tuning potential, so the Z losses in every sports related category. so sad that it had 3 years or so, they just couldn't beat their benchmark car.

    • @brianb4501
      @brianb4501 Год назад +2

      @@TerrannotOP Was this rebranded BMW really their benchmark? Or did they do what people asked like update the 20 year old interior and throw in the vr30 and call it a day?

    • @2012summr
      @2012summr Год назад +5

      @@brianb4501 Looking at it from a competitive standpoint the supra smacks it in all categories tho especially with the inclusion of the 6speed tranny BUT i guess the Z is good for die hard Z fans that aren't looking for anything else in the market.

    • @TerrannotOP
      @TerrannotOP Год назад +4

      @@brianb4501 😂rebranded bmw which also smacked the m2

  • @fast02gt
    @fast02gt Год назад +13

    The Supra continues to impress!

  • @philharris4504
    @philharris4504 Год назад +5

    Only so much credit can be given to tires. The Z just plainly got spanked.

    • @occckid123
      @occckid123 18 дней назад

      The z lost by 3 feet on the roll race. Spanked? It couldn't get off the line at the start as you can hear the z instantly shift into 2nd gear early in the rpm.

  • @mustafatariq3252
    @mustafatariq3252 Год назад +2

    Say whatever people want to say but I think it was very smart of toyota to collaborate with bmw for their supra. They made one hell of a beast.

  • @trudownsouth8490
    @trudownsouth8490 Год назад +1

    The "Supra" cutting the 400 out the gate and that price gap just makes it more insulting.

  • @skip741x3
    @skip741x3 Год назад +33

    Now we need a supra vs Z race where both are manuals...would be great to see

    • @user-dr4iu8mg5u
      @user-dr4iu8mg5u Год назад

      Same results

    • @kingGfour
      @kingGfour Год назад +7

      @@user-dr4iu8mg5u the manual supra is even lighter so same results lol

    • @petrolhead8851
      @petrolhead8851 Год назад

      That will be more of a drivers race! (Real race) in my opinion! This automatic shit sucks!!!

  • @GiotheGhreat
    @GiotheGhreat Год назад +2

    The Z is sooo ugly. Idk what they were thinking when they designed that thing 😂😂

  • @elikinzie23
    @elikinzie23 Год назад +15

    You can really hear the difference in the speed the transmissions shifting.

  • @VaunShiz
    @VaunShiz Год назад +10

    I actually had a deposit on both last month and whatever dealer got their car first I bought, I ended up with a 22 supra premium, love the Z but the power to weight of the car is amazing , both are beautiful cars

    • @lexusbruh904
      @lexusbruh904 Год назад +1

      Congrats!

    • @zatilla
      @zatilla Год назад

      Good choice my man. Also way better tuneable. Stage 2+ you can destroy nearly all cars you come across

  • @WaheedKhan-mm3pw
    @WaheedKhan-mm3pw Год назад +5

    The Z had no chance of winning since you were also driving it.

  • @hapexamendar1093
    @hapexamendar1093 Год назад +1

    Hell... all you Supra fanboys out there are just rooting for a now German car that is $7,000 more than the Z. Dollars count. If you are spending more, you better get more. Both cars seem pretty cool and the styling points, for me, go to the Z.

  • @hansolo5330
    @hansolo5330 Год назад +19

    The GR Supra is such a beast! INSANE

  • @a.m3687
    @a.m3687 Год назад +3

    Now both BMW and Supra fanboys can say they've built a great car.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад

      At first they hated it for being a BMW, now they sell their livers for one.

  • @zylixevade2469
    @zylixevade2469 Год назад +3

    It’s all thanks to bmw they are the ones that have their lighter and faster technology but Nissan is still better tho

  • @chetfreeland1920
    @chetfreeland1920 Год назад +1

    Both cars look great I didn't love the supra at first but it's really grown on me

  • @gilbertohernandez762
    @gilbertohernandez762 Год назад +1

    The BMW Supra is an amazing car. He kept blaming the tires on the Z and he got killed on the rolled race. Don't make excuses for the disappointing Z

  • @touayaaj84
    @touayaaj84 Год назад +3

    I’m just here to collect the tears from the Z fan boys who said the Z was a Supra killer.

  • @jadentha1090
    @jadentha1090 Год назад +13

    The B58 itself can handle a lot of power and additionally the power potential for the Supra is pretty insane.
    I'm an owner of a 2021 Supra, just personally its been a great car to own.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +2

      The BMW engine is a superb engine in many ways.

    • @akashivivo755
      @akashivivo755 11 месяцев назад

      Is it reliable? Have you encountered any problems while on the road?

    • @jadentha1090
      @jadentha1090 11 месяцев назад

      30k miles in less than two years. no issue@@akashivivo755

  • @carlosJimenez-ng7ok
    @carlosJimenez-ng7ok Год назад +2

    they literaly got the red sport engine and put it in the 370z and thought we wouldnt noticed

  • @Badgersito
    @Badgersito Год назад +9

    I still love the Z..😃 some AMS goodies and a tune and will be a lot faster

  • @GoBrand0n
    @GoBrand0n Год назад +3

    Imagine the upcoming Supra with S58 Engine.. Let's be Honest the B58 is just a monster of an engine combination with ZF Transmission. The Nissan will never beat it from Zero to who knows what.

  • @J_GoldieLoc
    @J_GoldieLoc Год назад +30

    That Z got swept 🧹 good shit Supra.

    • @pastorclaudia4054
      @pastorclaudia4054 Год назад +5

      Bmw

    • @123PSPs
      @123PSPs Год назад +3

      @@pastorclaudia4054 still a Supra

    • @rivneo1
      @rivneo1 Год назад

      In Manual Mode and in a roll the Z was ahead.

    • @SO_L-GR
      @SO_L-GR Год назад

      @@pastorclaudia4054 🥱

  • @Evolut10nX
    @Evolut10nX Год назад +1

    Would prefer the Z over that bmw any day, specifically in a manual variant though.

  • @user-xm2kq9mi1q
    @user-xm2kq9mi1q Год назад +2

    This guy always makes excuses. Tires tires tires tires.

  • @TheAltima94
    @TheAltima94 Год назад +5

    The BMW is just better engineered

    • @Eugen-E
      @Eugen-E Год назад

      More horsepower, less weight 🙂

  • @pssita
    @pssita Год назад +50

    It will be interesting to see the stick vs stick of these 2 beasts.

  • @JORGECASTR0V
    @JORGECASTR0V 7 месяцев назад +1

    Well, I want a supra, faster than a Honda tiper, a Nissan Z, it makes them look like children's cars, I don't care who made the BMW engine, it runs spectacularly and its price is cheap

  • @lanemorrow7417
    @lanemorrow7417 Год назад +1

    Nissan dropped the ball on this car. It doesn't look good, it doesn't perform exceptionally well especially against its primary competition and to me, the interior is pretty bland and unexciting. I just don't like it at all. To think they had an opportunity to really bring back and modernize the 240 look and feel and just missed it on all accounts. Nissan is cooked.

  • @madpistol
    @madpistol Год назад +3

    Unfortunately, the results were completely as expected... the Supra wins. The B58 + ZF 8-speed is a monster combo.

  • @Hiddentrax
    @Hiddentrax Год назад +4

    Supra is just FASTER

  • @HerrPoopschitz
    @HerrPoopschitz Год назад

    Im a die hard american car buyer, so have no biases other than I appreciate fast cars. Everything Ive seen on the new Supra impresses me...the Z is just ok.

  • @SupraDylan427
    @SupraDylan427 Год назад +1

    The guy in the Z always a sore loser always making excuses when he’s not in the faster car

  • @supra_feelgood5159
    @supra_feelgood5159 Год назад +5

    I own a 600hp mk5 so I'm ready for anyone with a z to race so we can see the outcome..obviously I want to race a tuned z

  • @johnnyx9659
    @johnnyx9659 Год назад +2

    New Z is a disappointment of the decade. This comes from a Nissan/Infiniti fan.

  • @jaredskoloda7018
    @jaredskoloda7018 Год назад +1

    They turned the beautiful Q60s took out the luxury, put in a crap transmission, and sold it for less.

  • @learyam
    @learyam Год назад +3

    I can’t wait to beat some Z Ont he streets with my Supra 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @electrikoptik
    @electrikoptik Год назад +3

    The Supra is the better car although I respect the Z for being 100% wholly built by Nissan.

    • @dannyd7714
      @dannyd7714 Год назад

      Yeah with that Mercedes transmission, wholly built by Nissan 🤣

    • @electrikoptik
      @electrikoptik Год назад

      ​@@dannyd7714 Don't be dumb. Every car manufacturer has suppliers. It's not like a car manufacturer is literally building a vehicle from scratch by themselves (mining the metal, building the glass for the windows etc). A vehicle can have transmission from ZF, brakes from brembo, shocks from bilstein etc. Mercedes did not aid Nissan in the development of the Z.

  • @kjoey76
    @kjoey76 Год назад +1

    No matter how you slice it, Supra is a faster car! You can tell from the roll race.

  • @mholmes9262
    @mholmes9262 Год назад +3

    No surprises here, BMW's 382HP is obviously very conservative and the ZF8HP is just hands down a superior transmission.
    BTW - 50 KPH = 31 MPH, not 32. :-)

  • @driv3n758
    @driv3n758 Год назад +35

    Wow, I anticipated a door to door race with a slight advantage to the supra. Respect to the supra for giving out 5 of 6 major ass kickings. with the 1 race being pretty close (but still a dub to the supra), which is more like what I expected. Looks like 10% more cost gets you 20-30% better performance. Pretty good ROI

    • @avis1978
      @avis1978 Год назад +9

      It's not 10% my friend. It's more like 17% ( 60k ×10% it's 66k). Don't forget the tax. With the price difference you can change the tires, suspension, mufflers, tune it, and it will still be cheaper. I don't think that the performance gap is that big. Both are fast cars. I think the Z is more spacious and comfortable.

    • @BrownSofaGamer
      @BrownSofaGamer Год назад +8

      @@avis1978 The performance gap is huge? lol, the Supra was going like the Z wasn’t even moving.

    • @avis1978
      @avis1978 Год назад

      @@BrownSofaGamer come on men what do you mean huge? You know what huge mean? 2-3 sec to the 1/4 mile. On the toll they where = in manual mode. On the track the supra will be 2 sec faster which mean nothing in the real world everyday driving. 12k$$ difference this is huge. And like I've said take the money difference and spend it on the Z and it will make the supra look like 🤡. Look what the guy with the 340i did with his car on this channel. I don't think he spent more then 12k on it. Now he have a high 10 sec car.

    • @hpickettz34
      @hpickettz34 Год назад +6

      It was 6 out 6 stop cappin.

    • @shamoo9473
      @shamoo9473 Год назад +8

      @@avis1978 this just shows that nissan is done. The only saving grace they had, was an overhyped flop. $12k for a better performer along with better quality in the supra is worth it.

  • @malachiholtzclaw2994
    @malachiholtzclaw2994 Год назад +1

    of course the supra won, did u really think bmw was gonna let that happen?💀

  • @raspop2587
    @raspop2587 Год назад +1

    Sam how about sticking the same Michelline tyres on the Z and have another Round 2 of this race…

  • @james-patrickpowers4926
    @james-patrickpowers4926 Год назад +18

    I respect the z and Supra very much and look at them equally. But they seem to have different driving ethos which is why I think it's odd to compare them. The Supra still retained its original recipe, rwd, inline six thats highly tunable and offers great driving dynamics. Disregard where Toyota sourced its parts for the Supra, it's still an engaging fun experience that holds true to its predecessors. Just because it's got German DNA doesn't make it a German car. Adding to the note of why I think it's odd to compare them is because they're both tuner cars, they were produced for us to take apart and do what we want with them. It shouldn't matter if one is faster than another in its stock form.

    • @dewaynebattles
      @dewaynebattles Год назад

      If you buy one of these and leave it stock, you're either old or a female.

    • @dnegel9546
      @dnegel9546 Год назад +1

      Supra is nothing like previous supras.

  • @ThatOnedude374
    @ThatOnedude374 Год назад +7

    That transmission on the new Z/ Q60 really holds back the engine.

    • @Some.Legend
      @Some.Legend Год назад

      The transmissions are different, new Z has a 9 SPD transmission while the Q50/60 has a 7 SPD transmission.

    • @ThatOnedude374
      @ThatOnedude374 Год назад

      @@Some.Legend ah yes my mistake still though it’s unfortunate thwy can make alot more power.

  • @FLBoyCanScrap
    @FLBoyCanScrap Год назад +8

    Everything is faster than the Z in it's price range.

  • @reflexgs6620
    @reflexgs6620 Год назад

    The driver of the Z tried so hard to make the Z the winner, but that baby has the Bavaria genes in it ;) E46 M3 fanboy and owner here :)

  • @kennethmukuka3715
    @kennethmukuka3715 Год назад +1

    Its not down to tyres but the engineering aspect. Nissan Z fan boys will be disappointed lol

  • @AB-coyote
    @AB-coyote Год назад +3

    The Z just needs to be learned. People serious about racing can manipulate it. For example people in 10 speed mustangs start the race in manual mode and once underway they switch to auto mode on the fly. That is the best way to get the fastest result from a roll in the Mustang.
    I’m betting the Z can do the same thing. Get some good rubber and hopefully reviews start turning around for the Z.

  • @TurkeyWilliams
    @TurkeyWilliams Год назад +31

    The Z appears to be pretty underwhelming vs the Supra. The B58 is a beast and I think a pretty competent successor to the 2J

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +9

      Yupp

    • @letdothisman1139
      @letdothisman1139 Год назад

      no till you have to fix them

    • @Mike604
      @Mike604 Год назад +7

      @@letdothisman1139 fix what? Mod for mod Supra kills Z

    • @TheHybridQ50S
      @TheHybridQ50S Год назад +9

      Ehh wouldn’t call the Z underwhelming the Supra is just the overachiever, it does everything GREAT.

    • @tyhyhh
      @tyhyhh Год назад +2

      idk how its underwhelming its not that much slower and its 10 grand cheaper lol

  • @airsoftfamilyasf843
    @airsoftfamilyasf843 Год назад +1

    He tried soooooo hard to make the Z beat the Supra. It’s NOT the tires. Even on roll racing the supra was pulling like a freight train. Except the one race in manual mode where the Supra driver shifted early but it still pulled and beat the Z

  • @vj5225
    @vj5225 Год назад +1

    Toyota's not dumb. They knew exactly who to use for performance, BMW. I will say Toyota did some tweeks as the twin BMW coupe gets dusted by the Supra with the same tires.

  • @joeblacc8573
    @joeblacc8573 Год назад +6

    U can put drag radials on the Z, still wouldn't have a chance in hell.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +6

      Mmmm highly doubt it

    • @joeblacc8573
      @joeblacc8573 Год назад +1

      Check the Dyno results. Z is a great car but it doesn't compare to the Supra. It's severely underrated just like every other B58 engine.

    • @bpearr8266
      @bpearr8266 Год назад +1

      @@joeblacc8573 same the new Nissan 3.0tt there already lots of potential

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +6

      The new z is a flop

    • @joeblacc8573
      @joeblacc8573 Год назад

      @@bpearr8266 plz watch Savagegeese's comparison. He put them both on the SAME tires so that couldn't be used as an excuse. He also put them both on the Dyno. Z is a cool car but it's on the same platform as the 370z(13 year old) and it's heavy with a crappy auto. The Supra is just better engineered all the way around(and lighter)and it makes a lot more power than the Z. It has potential though.

  • @BabaYagaRacing
    @BabaYagaRacing Год назад +6

    B58 > VR30
    Nothing new

    • @Eugen-E
      @Eugen-E Год назад

      No. A little more power and less weight doesn't make the B58 a better engine )))

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад

      @@Eugen-E the B58 is a far superior motor in every way

    • @Eugen-E
      @Eugen-E Год назад

      @@BabaYagaRacing No, it's not. In no way it is superior than a lot of other engines, including VR30.

    • @BabaYagaRacing
      @BabaYagaRacing Год назад

      @@Eugen-E the b58 is stronger in every way

    • @Eugen-E
      @Eugen-E Год назад

      @@BabaYagaRacing Have you tested both motors ? Stop talking BS. Simply because it has a closed-deck design doesn't make it "the best" or "the strongest" or other bs. There is nothing exciting about B58. It doesn't have rocket technology, etc.

  • @Indifference2000
    @Indifference2000 19 дней назад

    Supra better: tires, engine, transmission, weight, car overall = bye bye Z
    But i love the way the Z looks inside and out over the supra

  • @Foiiiii1
    @Foiiiii1 Год назад +1

    You could race the Z against the 2020 Supra and it'll still lose.

  • @fahed-ri4vi
    @fahed-ri4vi Год назад +5

    Thank you for this comparison, I was waiting for it since the first day Nissan announced the new Z.
    The results just as expected!

  • @bmo7784
    @bmo7784 Год назад +5

    Renault really made a cute Z !

  • @exajoules
    @exajoules Год назад

    bmws inline six is the definition of a turbine, it offers constant power without any lag

  • @maxsam201
    @maxsam201 Год назад

    Dude, "tires", nope. German engineering is what makes the difference. It's just superior.

  • @9663mu
    @9663mu Год назад +13

    Gotta love that BMW 6. Such a silky motor. Look the Z is nice and better va it’s predecessor but it’s not a huge improvement.

  • @sametyldrm8837
    @sametyldrm8837 Год назад +4

    We missed affordable car races 😢

    • @andrxito
      @andrxito Год назад +1

      get a previous gen m240i and kick both of these to the curb. just fit them with an LSD of your preference and a 500$ fuel pump.

  • @voxtek
    @voxtek Год назад +2

    I think the Z may be the most underwhelming twin turbo car ever made.

  • @latino914
    @latino914 Год назад +2

    Nissan Z looks better 😍, Supra performs better 💪

  • @ftr911drvr
    @ftr911drvr Год назад +3

    Yeah that's definitely not just tires difference 😂😂, I can't imagine the people spending 20k to 30k over sticker for a Nissan Z...Porsche Money for this??? 😂😬. The Z makes the most sense at its base price , gives you plenty of room to customize it after but in this performance trim that is priced the same as the Supra it's not worth it, and at Cayman money with dealer markups you're outright insane

  • @asharista3152
    @asharista3152 Год назад +10

    Nissan is still the winner because BMW represented Toyota. Toyota is busy making corollas

  • @shuaibbaksh8457
    @shuaibbaksh8457 Год назад +1

    You just had to embarrass that new Z 😅

  • @robertmitchell9276
    @robertmitchell9276 Год назад +1

    Like I've said before, the VR SUCKS. At least the VQ had character. Nissan/Infiniti are basically junk brands at this time. Thanks Carlos.

  • @travisfandrich4904
    @travisfandrich4904 Год назад +36

    Exactly the results to be expected from this race…

    • @TronB58
      @TronB58 Год назад +2

      And yet, you watched the video and gave the click baiter the views he needed to make $$$.

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +6

      @@TronB58 like you did multiple times 😂😂

    • @lucid523
      @lucid523 Год назад

      @@TronB58 what clickbait? Lmao there was no clickbait dumbass

  • @mphcorvette1
    @mphcorvette1 Год назад +8

    the Z is really disappointing. they keep saying the 10k price diff but when you look at other v8 base models it still loses. Idk if ive seen a review yet that actually chose the Z lol. It's a shame that they aren't even the best handling in the price range either.

    • @captainbarge
      @captainbarge Год назад +1

      Where do you draw the line for disappointment? Bmw 340ix with the same b58 will be way faster in 1/4 and 0-100/0-60 and more importantly stable, does it make supra shit?
      Those manual rwd powerful coupes are for driver's enjoyment and one should select it according to one's background, not by synthetic youtube testing.
      For example, I own a 550hp skyline r33 1996, which is a complete rocketship, it spits fire, does massive burnouts, drives like hell. Will I ever select supra as a replacement as it's faster and more refined? Of course not, it's a very synthetic and complete car, there is nothing for me to do with it.
      So for me the only disappointment with Z is that it's not for sale properly yet.

    • @mphcorvette1
      @mphcorvette1 Год назад

      @@captainbarge big difference there. The 370z was sold from 2009. In 2009, the 370z was VERY competitive in the market. The new Z shares a very similar platform and even uses some same exact parts 13 years later. People expected a new sports car, around 50k, that would be able to compete with the best others had to offer. It would be different if the straight line held its own vs the competition and the handling fell short or vice versa. But you have a car that stock to stock comes in last in almost every category. It even gets the same mpg as a scat pack charger. Handling is let down by the tires but you hear people all the time talk about how soft, and unsettled it is around a track.
      The supra faced disappointment when it first came out because people expected a mark iv and got a car that was mostly bmw. However, the supra is so damn good around a track, as a daily, and in a straight line that it can overcome it. The new Z has just fallen short.

    • @captainbarge
      @captainbarge Год назад +1

      @@mphcorvette1 beauty is in the eye of beholder, right? :) I'm in dire need of modern shitbox and Z covers everything for me. Soft suspension? I will be replacing it with coilovers anyway. Bad exhaust note? It will be replaced anyway. Old platform? I will have wider mods selection. Supra/whatever faster? Compare any 400bhp manual cars on real streets, you won't get the same result 3 times out of 3.
      And it's 10k less :)
      I understand your point, but raise you another: Z is soulful and has car enthusiast appeal, while it's unmeasurable, it places it ahead in my books

    • @mphcorvette1
      @mphcorvette1 Год назад +1

      @@captainbarge oh for sure mods will fix all the issues. I mean Z1 already has one with test parts over 600whp. And I respect your opinion. I mean hell you got a r34, you got the respect of 99% of car enthusiasts lol my point was more stock v stock, just disappointing that nissan didn't put more care into it.

  • @BlackNAVYAmericanVET
    @BlackNAVYAmericanVET 11 месяцев назад

    My grandfather used to say …..you get what you PAY FOR …….😂 💰

  • @skywalk3x
    @skywalk3x Год назад

    I think it’s disrespectful to say that. Toyota didn’t just slap their name on a BMW car and call it a Toyota. Besides we should be happy these cars are being made, because both companies makes great SUV’s.

  • @joshuapounds7646
    @joshuapounds7646 Год назад +6

    Please Race the new Z with a Golf R

    • @SamCarLegion
      @SamCarLegion  Год назад +3

      Coming up

    • @mqbr22
      @mqbr22 Год назад

      @@SamCarLegion The Golf R will loose every roll haha

    • @Cgee3
      @Cgee3 Год назад +1

      @@mqbr22 I wouldn’t be so sure on that. The DSG in the R is much better at shifting compared to the Z.

    • @mqbr22
      @mqbr22 Год назад

      @@Cgee3 Yea but just not enough power man. My best trap was 109.66 mph on a colder day. The Z is like 112-113 mph I think