My 2022 model 3 P has been non stop fun for the last 2 years/ 50,000miles. Been through 3 sets of tires , and only 6% battery degradation in that time. One very important thing for anyone get a performance. Do not turn on track mode on regular streets. One thing you run the risk of losing control and sliding into a curb or a tree or another car. The other thing is it does not make it faster in a drag race.!!! in fact it might make it slower . Track mode is not drag mode so you start to cool down the battery when you’re in track mode, which is not ideal if the battery is already cold. A warm 110°F is perfect for drag racing. so you might actually supercharge your car beforehand or prime the car for super charging by setting it into your destination and the battery will actually begin to warm up to ideal warm battery temperatures for drag race. I guess if you lived in a very hot Summer city you wouldn’t need to do any of that and just let the outside summertime air heat the battery for you for drag racing . When you’re on the track, you don’t have the problem of warming the battery because one lap should warm it up pretty good then you might actually start to overheat the battery which is where the track mode is useful cooling the battery. Also regen is turned off to prevent additional heat or energy going back into the battery, causing more heat and overheating. FYI There’s a difference between track day and drag racing day.
amazing that this do everything car even exists! ...just incredible what the Tesla team has accomplished in all areas they choose to provide products and solutions
First, oversteer is slow 😊 Second if you’re not using the brakes to slow yourself when entering the corners you’re not going fast enough. Practice threshold braking to get a feel for the limit of the tires and car when entering corners. Trail braking into a corner helps you set the car into the line you want for approach. Remember to look down the track and through the corners. Avoid staring directly in front of your car or the back of the car in front. The faster you go the further you need to look ahead. Lastly, try carrying your speed into the corner trail braking while trying to apex later in your turn. Applying the accelerator exiting the corner. Smooth inputs are faster than abrupt inputs to steering & braking. I hope this helps. Great video! Thank you 🙏
@@G82Watts Why not? I have had muscle cars since I owned a 69 phase 3 z28 with console delete, no mufflers (chambered pipes from the factory) no silly hidden headlights, endura bumper, no radio, 2 holly 3 barrel carbs, factory headers, and hollow bolts throughout (you never did see the special dealer option lists did you?) But my next car is going to be a model 3 performance. You sir are the one who is delusional if you think any car anywhere on earth can match this car at anywhere near this price.
@@SkyRiver1 In case you don't know, this troll hates on every Tesla video from everyone. You will see his delusional posts everywhere. Best advice, do not feed the troll.
This is a good representation to what a newer driver should expect on track. It doesnt just overheat for everyone. Id say more people will probably have this experience rather than the overheating that really fast drivers experience.
Glad you enjoyed your track day from a professional drives point of view, watching you drive is painful knowing that you're only tapping not close to 50% of the cars potential, from your point of you, great day nice and safe well with in your limits and you had a lot of fun congrats on your car, truly one of the best pieces of machinery you can buy for the price at this time
I guarantee this thing is pumping out that 500+ hp! I remember Tesla trying to say the Model Y performance put out 430 or so. Multiple times it was dynoed around 530hp to the wheels. That with the instant 500tq or so, makes it a truly wicked vehicle on the track.
@@BlueElectricityTesla The car has more flexibility to let you lose control how you want haha. I left minimal stability assist on. When I did oversteer once and the rear started sliding, I made a small wheel correction and the car just snapped back in place real good
Great video. Awesome camera views too! I have a Model 3 LR at the moment, but am hesitant to take it to the track due to brakes and lack of track mode. I scheduled a test drive of the Performance version at the end of July and am really looking forward to it. I live in Japan and there are awesome tracks within 2-3 hours drives, such as Fuji Speedway, and Twin Ring Motegi. If I get a M3P in the next few months, I will probably sign up for a track license for Motegi and try it out. I'm glad to hear you had positive results especially on a hot day.
Looks like you weren't pushing the car at all, you just give it the beans on the straight to overtake people. You're just cruising behind the cars in front most of the time. You didn't track the car. You drove the car on a track. Big difference.
Such a great job on this video. Looked like a fun day. So lucky to live near a track like Willow Springs, a track in every racing sim. Loved that you practiced on GT7 first :)
@@officialmichaeltan also you should look at getting the Enhance Auto S3XY buttons and or Knob in your car. Their app gives you a dashboard where you can show all the stats you’re missing like battery and motor temperatures. I love it
Build quality is still an issue, which surprised me. The gigafactory was supposed to resolve all the problems. But nope. Body panels still misaligned and the tail lights not being flush at the corners on the new Model 3 are a huge problem.
I believe these model 3 performances built out of fremont California currently. But yeah definitely work to do from Tesla, though I will say it is massively improved, and I’ve been able to compare this car to bmws, Porsches, Mercedes, and the Tesla is sometimes better in certain situations.
I really enjoyed your video, I plan on autocrossing mine when I get it. I think the 360 setup is great. Can you share attachments and cameras used? Keep up the great work!
It actually needs fully charged battery to perform as expected. This easily degrades when SOC goes down. Battery overheats fast, brakes fade away. This car is actually a danger on track or when driven spirted on an autobahn. It will be smoked easily by any ICE with AWD and comparable hp.
I got mine last week and it is def impressive straightline performance along with decent cornering. Still prefer my Civic Type R on any corners versus the Tesla, but track car? Def not. Not a single track test with someone pushing the limits has the car lasted more than 1-2 laps. Amazing daily and can prob run great autoX events.
Very cool, and good of you to go out and test yourself. Perhaps consider learning to left foot break for these track runs. It can come in handy. Great video 🫡
I do left foot braking for the sim! Tried switching back to one foot since it seems to be the most common for actual track days but maybe I’ll experiment with left foot for real days.
It’s probably a session for rookies so they can get familiar with tracks in general. I think for people including me who have not been in a track in order to begin from somewhere that’s great session
Very entertaining video! Impressed that the temperatures stayed in check throughout your sessions. I'm curious how the stock Pirelli tires held up after a day at the track.
No shade to the driver, but he didn't have temp issues because he is way under the limit. 1 lap is all I could get at Laguna Seca before the car started to cut power.
Nice!!! Great video!! How far was the nearest super charger 🔌? I am taking the 2024 M3P to Buttonwillow this Saturday & they have super chargers on track. I would love to get out to streets of willow / Big willow with the M3P.
Nice that sounds like a lot of fun! Streets of willow nearest charger is 20 minutes away but didn’t even have to use it. Only ran 3 sessions since it was so hot.
Nice report. I noticed that your elbow angle is too open for a better control and for crash safety. You need to be a bit closer to the steering wheel, at least with the backrest if not with the whole seat. This is meant to be a constructive comment.
Great video and nice driving! Curious why you weren’t taking the proper way when exiting the track and instead you continued through the normal track onto the skid pad and then exited. If you watch when the Porsche Taycan exits, he is using the correct path for exiting the track. Not accusing you of anything, just wasn’t sure if you had a reason for doing that, didn’t know or if that was the direction given to you by this trackday organization. I’ve never seen anyone exit like that and seems like a potential safety issue.
Thank you for the feedback! Yeah you have an eye for detail haha. I did absentmindedly follow the taycan thinking it was the end of the session, but turns out it just had a problem with the wheel. So I got back on the track after realizing that (organizers were chill and it was nice that the track was wide open after that)
Thanks for the video Michael. What were the max. G forces you got? I saw on my car on street 1,4G on brakes, 1-1.1G corners and approx 1.1G acceleration. For non-US folks, I'm with my TM3P 2024 at Nurburgring now, will do some hot laps in the next two days.
@@officialmichaeltan the lap with Misha - 1.6g corners, 1.3g brakes and 0.9g accel. If I remember the numbers correctly. Unfotunately neither brakes nor battery can survive whole lap. Will be back in 3 weeks with big brakes. Stay tuned for Misha’s video.
IF you're wanting to over take whats a head like that BMW...You better get up there ass not wait back until they gentlemanly think does he have the HP to take me... Great Cam work though and love the M3 performance...Would like to see you really send it in anger :)
Definitely the 2024. The suspension, new motor, even the more advanced plastic underfloor for stability. Depending how deep you want to go I’m sure you can do mods to overcome any shortfalls this car has (like better brakes and maybe cooling depending on your situation)
We are several owners in France having strong resonance coming from the Pirelli P0. It happens from 65mph up to (censored...). It seems due to the foam in the tires. Have you ever face this in your local version? We expect a fast guideline from Tesla to solve this. Other issue, click and rattles in the seat back.
@@nanterre38 haven’t experienced resonance in my tires at least not yet. Got a rattling in my front dash but actually just got it repaired by Tesla. Will see if it returns or not.
800lb lighter, stiffer suspension, better stability. If you throw carbon ceramics and upgrade the brake fluid the M3P would be really good. The plaid is a beast but unwieldy
…most purchasers of the new M3P will never ever race on a track…I have a 2018 performance…and it’s very fast…and the only reason I would buy another is if and when Tesla makes it a plaid, with 3 motors…realize that within three years the Kia Ioniq 5 N will add another 150 o 200 horsepower…and it already does sub 3 seconds…the race is on…and the S Plaid is a tank…whereas the 3 is perfect for driving…however, the new performance upgrades are not enough to greatly improve the overall car and make me consider buying…Tesla needs to realize the industry is developing cars that will exceed their M3P…give me 2.5 and I will buy it!
What did the edges of the tires look like? That'll give you a good indication of "ballpark" do you have too much or too little pressure in the tire. Curious to see what that'd be like on a car with 4000lb of heft. My old Miata was 2034lbs after much "adding lightness" but obviously lacking torque. A single temp of the tire isn't of much use. If you have several temps across the tire then that'd be of use.
@@officialmichaeltan The best thing to do is schmooz with the instructors and ask them about tire temps and how best to find it. Chances are they've had enough time with similar weight cars like the M3 to get you in the ball park. Some chalk or some "sneaker whitening goop" on the top edge of the sidewall will give you a good indication of how far the sidewall is rolling over. You don't want to eliminate this entirely by pressure adjustment alone, but it's a super simple way to check to see if your lead sled is going further than you'd like on the tire sidewall. A big circle dab on the top of the sidewall will do ya. Of course the other thing to look at is tire wear. What does it look like before and after the session? Is there much change? How does the tire wear on the track Vs on the street (over time). You do both so you have to take both into account but they may not be as mutually exclusive as you think. If you find the outside 1/4 wearing faster, if you can, dial in a little negative camber - if the Model 3 has adjustments via a cam bolt or similar. I don't have one so I wouldn't know. If you can it becomes a game of balancing the camber and toe and the tire pressure. With a bit more camber, you need less pressure to keep the sidewalls from rolling. Get a reliable temp probe and measure temps across the tire and see. It's easy to do. Temp and depth probes and pen/paper provides useful info - it's super simple yet very informative. Once you have data, if you can''t figure it out yourself, you can also chat to someone that can but without data it's all completely "subjective." If you tell someone "the back end is loose" there's a million reasons why. If you tell them, "my temps are this, my wear is this and it's loosey goosey on the rear" they can make a more informed reasoning on camber, toe and pressure. To be honest, I'd be tempted to set the oversteer/understeer slider in the middle at zero and sort the temps/wear and tire pressures first and leave that digital goodness until later. I've got a few years until I get one of these - set my main goal to pay off the house first and then have some fun. I do miss track days and especially autocross. It has been said that a could autocrosser can always track well but a good track guy may get lost in an autocross. Maybe give SCCA Solo2 a try. That'll give you ample opportunity to get good tire data and at very low risk of damage.
@@officialmichaeltan I'm still gonna buy new, just wanna pay the house off first before I get another car payment. I'm starting to get used to a life with fewer bills and after 30 years of hard graft it's actually kinda nice. LOL I raced Autocross for quite a few years. Just like with any other sport or hobby, if you want to get better seek out those with a ton of experience and ask. Most people at national level are often quiet and reserved until asked cool techie questions and then, as they used to say back in England when I was growing up there "they'll talk the hind legs off a donkey" and give away all but the most of the top tips. The reason i didn't mention getting into replacing things is that if you can get the camber/caster/toe and set the tires at the optimal pressure then you can concentrate on the really important thing: the nut that holds on the steering wheel. No, not the nut under the airbag, the driver :P Seat time, seat time, seat time and more seat time. Go find local autocrosses from all different organizations and drive them all. If you like being out all day, see how many different classes the Tesla can be in and drive all of them.
To all the non-american viewers out there, be careful watching these kinds of videos. The Global version is very different. There are already videos of the LG battery version overheating on a track where the previous model had no issues.
Pushing hard on track should result something like 4% - 5% battery used per 2 minutes :) That was roughly true for Tesla 3/Y, Polestar 2 and I4 M50 couple of weeks back ...
@@officialmichaeltan nice! Yeah I'm waiting Ive had my 24 m3p for about a month now but don't know anyone who can Dyno it for me. I'm sure it has close to 600hp if not more
@@officialmichaeltan And thanks for the reply, I'm definitely considering this for my next car. Between this and the long range, and keeping my s197 mustang for track duty.
@@dpie4859 yes gas cars has also overheating problem are you not aware about engine overheating problems I think you don't even own a car to begin with am I right
My 2024 MYP: ruclips.net/video/D_45EO5BauU/видео.htmlsi=zD-gtEy8gpkmOYkhC Clip-1 (Your 2024 M3P): ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx0yMRASfsHwGnOh8BEsbPqhSpydRcOO_D?si=-E5Hk9t3zEgBVuqp Clip-2 (Other-1 2024 M3P): ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxeVOD3c7Mf3gvdoafSEF50Y7mb3YGNv2n?si=7BgeP3EK1KAUKmKx Clip-3 (Other-2 2024 M3P): ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxsiVOBRkfGOWhcD5XH7NoNa2f8vMz7Cei?si=IWsVmbi-pxUipRg9 Observations: 1. The 2024 M3P's all-new adaptive damping system isn't doing y'all much good in cornering. 2. Cornering speeds in Clip-1, Clip-2, Clip-3 are practically identical to that of my 2024 MYP. Note: Cornering performances are what separate the men from the boys... Just think that my stock 2024 MYP cornering performance was executed by me on the spur of the moment!
thanks for putting this together. All the turns are slightly different. Your clip and the others are pretty close to 90 degrees. The clip from this vid is just under 180 degrees (streets of willow springs turn 2). No turns on this track really compare to a stock 90 degree turn since this track you need to get on a certain side for the next turn pretty quickly.
@@officialmichaeltan Fair enough... again, cornering performances separate the men from the boys, as can be seen in GP races. Imagine I did it with a SUV, called MYP; not a want-to-be sport car, called M3P refreshed. lol
okay first off, please post lap times. it gauges the driver experience and also capabilities of the car. you can't give a "track" review without this. you should really preface it if you are a novice driver or new to the track. which it does seem like. to me and a few others in the comments. it seems like a parade lap for novice beginner drivers + too much traffic. talking about Gs or noises and talking about from an authoritative viewpoint really doesn't help the perception either. Just all types of random feedback that exposes ur inexperience. you keep mentioning tire screeching which has nothing to do with performance which is very annoying to someone that actually tracks. you should retitle as "My first track day" or something instead of "review" as if you are an authoritive seasoned track pro. you are in no way reaching the capabilities of the car which is why nothing is overheating for you and pardon the french "talking out of your ass".
Junk one trick pony cars. My neighbor has one and the front brakes are much smaller than my rear brakes, even though my car weighs about 100 lbs less. No 4,000 lb 500 hp performance car should have bicycle disc brakes. Better pay another $15k for carbon ceramics if you really want to run more than a few minutes on a track lol
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Why are you still trying to compare your car to a Plaid? It's not even close and if your argument, which appears to be is you're more comfortable in a slower car is laughable. The Plaid is bigger, heavier and much quicker and faster than your car. That's great that you love your car but comparing it to superior cars and coming up with a pretty pitiful reason of you feel more comfortable is quite childish. A track pack Plaid would obliterate anything Tesla currently makes, period. Unfortunately, your judgement here is taken with a grain of salt.
The plaid is one of my dream cars. It’s not ideal for the racetrack with lots of turns however. If you get on the track you will find out how important handling is.
@@ChosenMJ yes the plaid can do faster times at that track. But it takes a very good driver to do so, for most people it would be very difficult to manage.
That's tesla owners for u. They will justify any reason as to why cars they cant afford are worse. In reality they'd trade their car in a heartbeat to have it. 😂
Some people prefer a lighter car to a faster one. It's not that hard to understand. I wouldn't get a Model Y even if it accelerated faster than the Model 3.
@@chewthegum lol justify away my guy. If u really prefer lighter cars u wouldn't be in the EV market. U prefer cheap speed and what u can afford. U ain't fooling no one.
Just lookup the performance of model 3 p on Nurburgring ruclips.net/video/0tdhYevUGwM/видео.htmlsi=2AiS4UiE77RSYgSJ brakes are on fire 🔥. Don’t get me wrong I would love to have the car since I don’t do circuits anyway but brakes should get a upgrade
Yeah you bring up a good point that the majority of people do not need extra racing mods out of this car haha. I think depending on the track and the drivers skill level stock could be enough, but yeah brakes are the first thing I would upgrade.
@@officialmichaeltan this and of course Nurburgring is a very long circuit model s plaid record is 7.25 so 1 lap here is like 4-5 laps on a normal circuit.
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That rear view of the acceleration looked insane!! 25:00
My 2022 model 3 P has been non stop fun for the last 2 years/ 50,000miles. Been through 3 sets of tires , and only 6% battery degradation in that time. One very important thing for anyone get a performance. Do not turn on track mode on regular streets. One thing you run the risk of losing control and sliding into a curb or a tree or another car. The other thing is it does not make it faster in a drag race.!!! in fact it might make it slower . Track mode is not drag mode so you start to cool down the battery when you’re in track mode, which is not ideal if the battery is already cold. A warm 110°F is perfect for drag racing. so you might actually supercharge your car beforehand or prime the car for super charging by setting it into your destination and the battery will actually begin to warm up to ideal warm battery temperatures for drag race. I guess if you lived in a very hot Summer city you wouldn’t need to do any of that and just let the outside summertime air heat the battery for you for drag racing .
When you’re on the track, you don’t have the problem of warming the battery because one lap should warm it up pretty good then you might actually start to overheat the battery which is where the track mode is useful cooling the battery. Also regen is turned off to prevent additional heat or energy going back into the battery, causing more heat and overheating. FYI There’s a difference between track day and drag racing day.
Spot on, excellent information. Also great to hear it’s only 6% degradation given that usage
Really good advice, thank's
I have a 2020 Y Perf, ditto thing is a horse.
I have a juniper 3 i'm picking up saturday and this is making me fired up!
amazing that this do everything car even exists! ...just incredible what the Tesla team has accomplished in all areas they choose to provide products and solutions
Now you can get a performance car, while still getting a good car for your family, including less car focussed partner-approval haha.
Im getting mine in the next few weeks here, I CAN'T WAIT!!! This video was so fun! keep up the good content!
Congrats 🎉
btw .regen should be set to off when on track
Dude those 360 camera views showing shenanigans during the laps are great!
First, oversteer is slow 😊
Second if you’re not using the brakes to slow yourself when entering the corners you’re not going fast enough. Practice threshold braking to get a feel for the limit of the tires and car when entering corners. Trail braking into a corner helps you set the car into the line you want for approach. Remember to look down the track and through the corners. Avoid staring directly in front of your car or the back of the car in front. The faster you go the further you need to look ahead. Lastly, try carrying your speed into the corner trail braking while trying to apex later in your turn. Applying the accelerator exiting the corner. Smooth inputs are faster than abrupt inputs to steering & braking. I hope this helps. Great video! Thank you 🙏
A slight bit of oversteer is advantageous for slip angle no?
@@dsmluck yes. Understeer (pushing) is worse IMO.
Jeeez that things super fast on the straights 😮
Nothing can touch your Ludicrous ⚡️🇺🇲
Electric American Muscle #1
U would never see an American muscle car owner comparing his car to a model 3 tesla. U people are delusional 😂
@@G82Watts Why not? I have had muscle cars since I owned a 69 phase 3 z28 with console delete, no mufflers (chambered pipes from the factory) no silly hidden headlights, endura bumper, no radio, 2 holly 3 barrel carbs, factory headers, and hollow bolts throughout (you never did see the special dealer option lists did you?) But my next car is going to be a model 3 performance. You sir are the one who is delusional if you think any car anywhere on earth can match this car at anywhere near this price.
@SkyRiver1 Exactly, and the OP didn't say anything about comparing it to a muscle car, he just said it is an Electric American Muscle Car.
@@SkyRiver1 In case you don't know, this troll hates on every Tesla video from everyone. You will see his delusional posts everywhere. Best advice, do not feed the troll.
This is a good representation to what a newer driver should expect on track. It doesnt just overheat for everyone. Id say more people will probably have this experience rather than the overheating that really fast drivers experience.
Glad you enjoyed your track day from a professional drives point of view, watching you drive is painful knowing that you're only tapping not close to 50% of the cars potential, from your point of you, great day nice and safe well with in your limits and you had a lot of fun congrats on your car, truly one of the best pieces of machinery you can buy for the price at this time
Outstanding !!! Thanks!
Thatl looks fun! Thanks for sharing. The acceleration looks intense 😂
This car is built different!
I guarantee this thing is pumping out that 500+ hp! I remember Tesla trying to say the Model Y performance put out 430 or so. Multiple times it was dynoed around 530hp to the wheels. That with the instant 500tq or so, makes it a truly wicked vehicle on the track.
@@Deetroiter can’t wait to dyno this thing
On the dyno it has 600+Hp
@@officialmichaeltan already done. 610 to 620hp i read somewhere. Tesla lying to us.
@@HermanWillemsI believe that as well. Case in point, the heavier 670hp MS LR is trapping around 128-130mph.
Fantastic work on the video! Exciting to watch. Love the 360 camera work. Great job man! Hope you had fun.
@@Evolve2112 thank you!! It was a great experience
Tuesday is D day for me. Good video!
You can do track time by selecting the start mark on the nav and map out the track layout in warm up lap. Quite cool feature of track mode
would've definitely been cooler to see you reproduce your lap that you did in the beginning in GT7! hahaha
Great video man!
Wow, some fine video material!
Really enjoyed watching it.
Especially at 25:00 what a clean view was that!
Thank you!!! Willow springs has great views
Insane track day! I kept rooting for you to pass up all the cars. It’s crazy how easy it is to lose control. Question is how many other M3Ps?
Appreciate it man 🙏
@@officialmichaeltanso far your vids are awesome good luck on the continued success. Looking forward to the dyno
@@BlueElectricityTesla The car has more flexibility to let you lose control how you want haha. I left minimal stability assist on. When I did oversteer once and the rear started sliding, I made a small wheel correction and the car just snapped back in place real good
Great video. Awesome camera views too! I have a Model 3 LR at the moment, but am hesitant to take it to the track due to brakes and lack of track mode. I scheduled a test drive of the Performance version at the end of July and am really looking forward to it. I live in Japan and there are awesome tracks within 2-3 hours drives, such as Fuji Speedway, and Twin Ring Motegi. If I get a M3P in the next few months, I will probably sign up for a track license for Motegi and try it out. I'm glad to hear you had positive results especially on a hot day.
Hope you enjoy the test drive! Fuji speedway looks incredible
One way to do it is to do one fast lap and then drive easily and let everyting to cool down a bit. Probably the best way for most EVs.
Looks like you weren't pushing the car at all, you just give it the beans on the straight to overtake people. You're just cruising behind the cars in front most of the time. You didn't track the car. You drove the car on a track.
Big difference.
Thats what all Teslapromoters do. If he would push it properly, it would overheat and reduce power.
unfortunately the battery overheates pretty fast, the cooling is strong but not enough to endure a real push
That was awesome! I'm tempted to bring my 24M3P to the track but it seems daunting! Great work though
There are good companies that make it easy to get into. Mainly just expensive with track insurance, tires and stuff!
Such a great job on this video. Looked like a fun day. So lucky to live near a track like Willow Springs, a track in every racing sim. Loved that you practiced on GT7 first :)
Thank you! So cool GT7 that had both the car and the track.
@@officialmichaeltan also you should look at getting the Enhance Auto S3XY buttons and or Knob in your car. Their app gives you a dashboard where you can show all the stats you’re missing like battery and motor temperatures. I love it
Build quality is still an issue, which surprised me. The gigafactory was supposed to resolve all the problems. But nope. Body panels still misaligned and the tail lights not being flush at the corners on the new Model 3 are a huge problem.
I believe these model 3 performances built out of fremont California currently. But yeah definitely work to do from Tesla, though I will say it is massively improved, and I’ve been able to compare this car to bmws, Porsches, Mercedes, and the Tesla is sometimes better in certain situations.
I really enjoyed your video, I plan on autocrossing mine when I get it. I think the 360 setup is great. Can you share attachments and cameras used? Keep up the great work!
Respect for putting your future car to use! Insta360x4 to get 360 shots + insta360 3 suction cup car mount. GoPro hero 12.
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mine comes in 2 weeks
Congrats!!!
SAME!
Cash bought right? Don't be such a lease / loan murican.
Just pick up mine today and love it. Do notice a rattle somewhere when going really fast.
Congrats!!! Yeah my speaker grill in the front dash rattles too. Did you schedule a service appointment?
This Model 3 Perfomance is destroying everyone! Tesla finally gave us what we wanted.
And it is only going to get better. The battery weight will come way down and everything else will go even further up.
ruclips.net/video/M6_LN0uzPZY/видео.htmlsi=FA7fk9dlqi0GkpTt not good in Europe
It also needs better brakes, stock brakes are overheating fast
LOL
It actually needs fully charged battery to perform as expected. This easily degrades when SOC goes down. Battery overheats fast, brakes fade away. This car is actually a danger on track or when driven spirted on an autobahn. It will be smoked easily by any ICE with AWD and comparable hp.
I got mine last week and it is def impressive straightline performance along with decent cornering. Still prefer my Civic Type R on any corners versus the Tesla, but track car? Def not. Not a single track test with someone pushing the limits has the car lasted more than 1-2 laps. Amazing daily and can prob run great autoX events.
Very cool, and good of you to go out and test yourself. Perhaps consider learning to left foot break for these track runs. It can come in handy. Great video 🫡
I do left foot braking for the sim! Tried switching back to one foot since it seems to be the most common for actual track days but maybe I’ll experiment with left foot for real days.
Track testing? it feels like any bicycle would have done the lap quicker. Are there speed limits on that track? aren't you allowed to overtake?
It’s probably a session for rookies so they can get familiar with tracks in general. I think for people including me who have not been in a track in order to begin from somewhere that’s great session
Hell yeah. You can be that more experienced driver.
Great YT You are a great driver ! - TX for this YT . I will go myself with my new mod3p on a track. Seems to make fun !
@@Joda5212 congrats on the new car! Have fun
Getting my 24 M3 Ludicrous in a week or so. I’m dying from the anticipation and this made it worse/better.
Fire fiyaahhhh, Brownbear 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Very entertaining video! Impressed that the temperatures stayed in check throughout your sessions.
I'm curious how the stock Pirelli tires held up after a day at the track.
They were pretty decent I’d say. But I believe if one takes this to the track regularly they should absolutely get real racing tires.
No shade to the driver, but he didn't have temp issues because he is way under the limit. 1 lap is all I could get at Laguna Seca before the car started to cut power.
Now, shall we run the Nuremburgring? 😂😂
Hahaha that’s definitely a different story for sure.
This track was short and full of turns.
Tesla owns the roads ! 🇺🇸💪
Nice!!! Great video!! How far was the nearest super charger 🔌? I am taking the 2024 M3P to Buttonwillow this Saturday & they have super chargers on track. I would love to get out to streets of willow / Big willow with the M3P.
Nice that sounds like a lot of fun! Streets of willow nearest charger is 20 minutes away but didn’t even have to use it. Only ran 3 sessions since it was so hot.
@@officialmichaeltan thanks for the info 🙌
Nice report.
I noticed that your elbow angle is too open for a better control and for crash safety. You need to be a bit closer to the steering wheel, at least with the backrest if not with the whole seat.
This is meant to be a constructive comment.
Good to know thank you! I’ve been trying to find info on seating but didn’t get the chance to ask the instructors.
Great video and nice driving! Curious why you weren’t taking the proper way when exiting the track and instead you continued through the normal track onto the skid pad and then exited. If you watch when the Porsche Taycan exits, he is using the correct path for exiting the track. Not accusing you of anything, just wasn’t sure if you had a reason for doing that, didn’t know or if that was the direction given to you by this trackday organization. I’ve never seen anyone exit like that and seems like a potential safety issue.
Thank you for the feedback! Yeah you have an eye for detail haha. I did absentmindedly follow the taycan thinking it was the end of the session, but turns out it just had a problem with the wheel. So I got back on the track after realizing that (organizers were chill and it was nice that the track was wide open after that)
Ioniq 5N is the best EV under 70k on track sorry but tesla miss it with the over heating
Significantly more expensive.
Thanks for the video Michael. What were the max. G forces you got? I saw on my car on street 1,4G on brakes, 1-1.1G corners and approx 1.1G acceleration.
For non-US folks, I'm with my TM3P 2024 at Nurburgring now, will do some hot laps in the next two days.
@@qrs13 brakes I lost the data but didn’t push brakes hard that day, 1.3g corners, 1.1 acceleration same
@@qrs13 have fun! Hope to hear about your experience
@@officialmichaeltanperfect, thanks for the data. Will see tomorrow morning. Can’t wait to have fun. 😂
@@officialmichaeltan the lap with Misha - 1.6g corners, 1.3g brakes and 0.9g accel. If I remember the numbers correctly. Unfotunately neither brakes nor battery can survive whole lap. Will be back in 3 weeks with big brakes. Stay tuned for Misha’s video.
very cool
IF you're wanting to over take whats a head like that BMW...You better get up there ass not wait back until they gentlemanly think does he have the HP to take me... Great Cam work though and love the M3 performance...Would like to see you really send it in anger :)
Haha that session we had to do overtake with point bys. I would gladly overtake whenever if I could.
Have you gone to Buttonwillow yet, this track is not small for big power car
Not yet, I want to. Yeah willow springs has lots of turn after turn
plz stop saying "y'all" Good video none the less!
Which is better for track use between 2024 vs older(22/22) models?
Definitely the 2024. The suspension, new motor, even the more advanced plastic underfloor for stability. Depending how deep you want to go I’m sure you can do mods to overcome any shortfalls this car has (like better brakes and maybe cooling depending on your situation)
My grandmother loves hers
@@richardmesser1091 I bet she’s a track beast
We are several owners in France having strong resonance coming from the Pirelli P0. It happens from 65mph up to (censored...). It seems due to the foam in the tires.
Have you ever face this in your local version?
We expect a fast guideline from Tesla to solve this.
Other issue, click and rattles in the seat back.
@@nanterre38 haven’t experienced resonance in my tires at least not yet.
Got a rattling in my front dash but actually just got it repaired by Tesla. Will see if it returns or not.
@@officialmichaeltan Thanks for prompt response. Last question... Our TM3P 2024 are equipped with Pirelli Pzero Elec T2. Is this the same one for you?
@@nanterre38 mine has pirelli p zero 4
21:15 that M3 easily outmatches M3P's acceleration.
@@mrb2349 I wasn’t full throttle haha. Only point by passing was allowed
@@officialmichaeltan oh okay makes sense. Enjoy your Tesla, I would love to have one myself.
@@mrb2349 thank you!! I bet there will be loads of used ones on the market soon. I normally buy used but couldn’t wait for this one.
@@officialmichaeltanoverheating model 3
Great job man. I really hate the gravel there
Haha you know what’s up. Though at least if I go off track there are no walls to smash into there.
Just a square set of 315 wide track tires(if they fit?) would make this into a monster! Heavy cars need fat tires to spread the weight around.
..and obviously some even lighter weight track wheels to fit the fatter tires.
That would be interesting! And make em sticky race tires man this thing will be zooming
Take the aero covers off the wheels next time.
I’m curious as to knowing why you prefer a M3P for the track over a Plaid
800lb lighter, stiffer suspension, better stability. If you throw carbon ceramics and upgrade the brake fluid the M3P would be really good. The plaid is a beast but unwieldy
Put on some lighter wheels and stickier tires nextime. Can only imagine 😮👍🏽👍🏽
Battery tech is progressing at breakneck speed. When these EV become lite it's the end for ICE.
Same weight as M3
I wish now that I waited on buying a mp3. I have a 2023. I really want to take mine to a road course!!!!!
You still have a top tier car! Lmk your thoughts if you end up bringing it to a track!
…most purchasers of the new M3P will never ever race on a track…I have a 2018 performance…and it’s very fast…and the only reason I would buy another is if and when Tesla makes it a plaid, with 3 motors…realize that within three years the Kia Ioniq 5 N will add another 150 o 200 horsepower…and it already does sub 3 seconds…the race is on…and the S Plaid is a tank…whereas the 3 is perfect for driving…however, the new performance upgrades are not enough to greatly improve the overall car and make me consider buying…Tesla needs to realize the industry is developing cars that will exceed their M3P…give me 2.5 and I will buy it!
Model S Plaid is a tank that can do 7:25 on the 'Ring. Enough said.
@@KP-xi4bj no, this is a totally modified S
@@markme3259 Factory modification called Track Package. Keep coping.
@@markme3259 Yeah, modification straight from Tesla called Track Package.
@@markme3259 No, it isn't. But keep coping.
Thanks for sharing! How was the tire wear?
Def took a decent chunk of life out of them 😂
2:19 great video. How were you able to held the iPhone on that position on the center console?
@@rogeriogomesosorio4755 thank you! I got a suction cup phone mount and stuck it on the top of center console storage
What did the edges of the tires look like? That'll give you a good indication of "ballpark" do you have too much or too little pressure in the tire. Curious to see what that'd be like on a car with 4000lb of heft. My old Miata was 2034lbs after much "adding lightness" but obviously lacking torque.
A single temp of the tire isn't of much use. If you have several temps across the tire then that'd be of use.
@@Swampster70 makes sense, good info. Definitely had some wear near the edges but nothing crazy far down
@@officialmichaeltan The best thing to do is schmooz with the instructors and ask them about tire temps and how best to find it. Chances are they've had enough time with similar weight cars like the M3 to get you in the ball park. Some chalk or some "sneaker whitening goop" on the top edge of the sidewall will give you a good indication of how far the sidewall is rolling over. You don't want to eliminate this entirely by pressure adjustment alone, but it's a super simple way to check to see if your lead sled is going further than you'd like on the tire sidewall. A big circle dab on the top of the sidewall will do ya.
Of course the other thing to look at is tire wear. What does it look like before and after the session? Is there much change? How does the tire wear on the track Vs on the street (over time). You do both so you have to take both into account but they may not be as mutually exclusive as you think. If you find the outside 1/4 wearing faster, if you can, dial in a little negative camber - if the Model 3 has adjustments via a cam bolt or similar. I don't have one so I wouldn't know. If you can it becomes a game of balancing the camber and toe and the tire pressure. With a bit more camber, you need less pressure to keep the sidewalls from rolling. Get a reliable temp probe and measure temps across the tire and see. It's easy to do. Temp and depth probes and pen/paper provides useful info - it's super simple yet very informative. Once you have data, if you can''t figure it out yourself, you can also chat to someone that can but without data it's all completely "subjective." If you tell someone "the back end is loose" there's a million reasons why. If you tell them, "my temps are this, my wear is this and it's loosey goosey on the rear" they can make a more informed reasoning on camber, toe and pressure.
To be honest, I'd be tempted to set the oversteer/understeer slider in the middle at zero and sort the temps/wear and tire pressures first and leave that digital goodness until later.
I've got a few years until I get one of these - set my main goal to pay off the house first and then have some fun. I do miss track days and especially autocross. It has been said that a could autocrosser can always track well but a good track guy may get lost in an autocross. Maybe give SCCA Solo2 a try. That'll give you ample opportunity to get good tire data and at very low risk of damage.
@@Swampster70 nice man, you got a lot of experience. And yeah your priorities are very logical haha. I bet these will be pretty cheap used eventually
@@officialmichaeltan I'm still gonna buy new, just wanna pay the house off first before I get another car payment. I'm starting to get used to a life with fewer bills and after 30 years of hard graft it's actually kinda nice. LOL
I raced Autocross for quite a few years. Just like with any other sport or hobby, if you want to get better seek out those with a ton of experience and ask. Most people at national level are often quiet and reserved until asked cool techie questions and then, as they used to say back in England when I was growing up there "they'll talk the hind legs off a donkey" and give away all but the most of the top tips. The reason i didn't mention getting into replacing things is that if you can get the camber/caster/toe and set the tires at the optimal pressure then you can concentrate on the really important thing: the nut that holds on the steering wheel. No, not the nut under the airbag, the driver :P Seat time, seat time, seat time and more seat time. Go find local autocrosses from all different organizations and drive them all. If you like being out all day, see how many different classes the Tesla can be in and drive all of them.
US tracks are so different to UK…
You have to practice with PSVR2.
@@sarverjj I really want one exclusively for GT. Do you have one?
@@officialmichaeltanyes... It is awsome. Looking into corners is a game changer. Once you drive in vr in gt7 you won't go back to flat screen.
Now put some carbon ceramics on it :P
Hows it compare to an bmw m3?
Feel free to reach out for brake and suspension for your Model 3 Performance.
To all the non-american viewers out there, be careful watching these kinds of videos. The Global version is very different. There are already videos of the LG battery version overheating on a track where the previous model had no issues.
Sad 😢
Yes very unhappy about this as it also seems to affect Autobahn use
Absolute bullshit and nonsense. I raced it all day on the Autobahn and I smoked everything.
Yep I released video in UK of mine overheating. Someone else messaged to say same on their Uk version also 3-4 laps in
ruclips.net/video/M6_LN0uzPZY/видео.htmlfeature=shared
is this an insta 360 x3 or x4?
@@jorn9945 x4
1% on a lap? You ain’t trying dude!
Pushing hard on track should result something like 4% - 5% battery used per 2 minutes :) That was roughly true for Tesla 3/Y, Polestar 2 and I4 M50 couple of weeks back ...
The M3P is NOT a track car. Not at all.
Too bad the brakes and battery pack overheat immediately.
Hi, i saw you are testing at street of willow, how do you charge there? do u go out? or?
@@leoguo6584 the closest supercharger is 20min away. I ran three sessions and didn’t need to charge. We left early since it was super hot that day.
@@officialmichaeltan gotcha, thank you so much
Lityle bit strange tesla s but with panorama glasses why not an model that the glasses can be open....
What happened to the dyno?
Working on it, went to a place but they couldn’t jack it up without taking the plastic off the bottom
@@officialmichaeltan nice! Yeah I'm waiting Ive had my 24 m3p for about a month now but don't know anyone who can Dyno it for me. I'm sure it has close to 600hp if not more
@@tedahwooga forreal not many places are willing to dyno a Tesla. Too much torque
Performance only for traffic lights races. On track it just over heats the cooling sistem and the brakes are rubbish on track to.
What was the temperature outside?
100 degrees plus or minus
@@officialmichaeltan
Thanks
What lap times did you run?
1:40 but there was always some form of traffic that day.
@@officialmichaeltan Thanks, I also noticed your tires screeching almost every turn, guessing it's still the stock oem all seasons?
@@officialmichaeltan And thanks for the reply, I'm definitely considering this for my next car. Between this and the long range, and keeping my s197 mustang for track duty.
Yep exactly, stock tires. They were decent but racing tires would make this car so good.
Nice that would be a great combo!
The battery not getting hot is because you're a slow driver
Overheating is a MAJOR issue.
As if gas car has no heating problems
@@kirankumari-nz8sv not overheating....
@@dpie4859 yes gas cars has also overheating problem are you not aware about engine overheating problems I think you don't even own a car to begin with am I right
@@kirankumari-nz8sv Camaro ZL1 1LE here....No overheating lap after lap 30min in. Oh BTW 7:16 ring time.
@@bob-qi4nrI am taking about non stop driving, happened with me engine stopped working due to overheating
My 2024 MYP: ruclips.net/video/D_45EO5BauU/видео.htmlsi=zD-gtEy8gpkmOYkhC
Clip-1 (Your 2024 M3P): ruclips.net/user/clipUgkx0yMRASfsHwGnOh8BEsbPqhSpydRcOO_D?si=-E5Hk9t3zEgBVuqp
Clip-2 (Other-1 2024 M3P): ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxeVOD3c7Mf3gvdoafSEF50Y7mb3YGNv2n?si=7BgeP3EK1KAUKmKx
Clip-3 (Other-2 2024 M3P): ruclips.net/user/clipUgkxsiVOBRkfGOWhcD5XH7NoNa2f8vMz7Cei?si=IWsVmbi-pxUipRg9
Observations:
1. The 2024 M3P's all-new adaptive damping system isn't doing y'all much good in cornering.
2. Cornering speeds in Clip-1, Clip-2, Clip-3 are practically identical to that of my 2024 MYP.
Note: Cornering performances are what separate the men from the boys... Just think that my stock 2024 MYP cornering performance was executed by me on the spur of the moment!
thanks for putting this together. All the turns are slightly different. Your clip and the others are pretty close to 90 degrees. The clip from this vid is just under 180 degrees (streets of willow springs turn 2). No turns on this track really compare to a stock 90 degree turn since this track you need to get on a certain side for the next turn pretty quickly.
@@officialmichaeltan Fair enough... again, cornering performances separate the men from the boys, as can be seen in GP races. Imagine I did it with a SUV, called MYP; not a want-to-be sport car, called M3P refreshed. lol
@@TuneupMagic MYP is for sure a great car
okay first off, please post lap times. it gauges the driver experience and also capabilities of the car.
you can't give a "track" review without this. you should really preface it if you are a novice driver or new to the track. which it does seem like.
to me and a few others in the comments. it seems like a parade lap for novice beginner drivers + too much traffic.
talking about Gs or noises and talking about from an authoritative viewpoint really doesn't help the perception either. Just all types of random feedback that exposes ur inexperience.
you keep mentioning tire screeching which has nothing to do with performance which is very annoying to someone that actually tracks.
you should retitle as "My first track day" or something instead of "review" as if you are an authoritive seasoned track pro.
you are in no way reaching the capabilities of the car which is why nothing is overheating for you and pardon the french "talking out of your ass".
Sucks, we had to watch until the 6 1/2 minute mark before you finally started driving the damn car. Like felt like I was watching an FSD beta video
Dam dude show us how good you can drive then
@@fhsrodri I’m just saying keep the same energy you had going at the 6 1/2 minute mark the entire race and you’ll be killing it, bro
Junk one trick pony cars. My neighbor has one and the front brakes are much smaller than my rear brakes, even though my car weighs about 100 lbs less. No 4,000 lb 500 hp performance car should have bicycle disc brakes. Better pay another $15k for carbon ceramics if you really want to run more than a few minutes on a track lol
No need for ceramics, just bigger (proper Brembo) brakes are just fine. Especially as you know (most) EVs are not good for multiple fast laps anyway.
@@mho0agreed
You are driving like a grandma 🥴 sorry to say 😅 but you will never get some temperature in the battery like this
He’s pretty transparent about being a beginner.
You couldn’t afford another decent GoPro for the screen ? SMH
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Why are you still trying to compare your car to a Plaid? It's not even close and if your argument, which appears to be is you're more comfortable in a slower car is laughable. The Plaid is bigger, heavier and much quicker and faster than your car. That's great that you love your car but comparing it to superior cars and coming up with a pretty pitiful reason of you feel more comfortable is quite childish. A track pack Plaid would obliterate anything Tesla currently makes, period. Unfortunately, your judgement here is taken with a grain of salt.
The plaid is one of my dream cars. It’s not ideal for the racetrack with lots of turns however. If you get on the track you will find out how important handling is.
@@ChosenMJ yes the plaid can do faster times at that track. But it takes a very good driver to do so, for most people it would be very difficult to manage.
That's tesla owners for u. They will justify any reason as to why cars they cant afford are worse. In reality they'd trade their car in a heartbeat to have it. 😂
Some people prefer a lighter car to a faster one. It's not that hard to understand. I wouldn't get a Model Y even if it accelerated faster than the Model 3.
@@chewthegum lol justify away my guy. If u really prefer lighter cars u wouldn't be in the EV market. U prefer cheap speed and what u can afford. U ain't fooling no one.
Just lookup the performance of model 3 p on Nurburgring ruclips.net/video/0tdhYevUGwM/видео.htmlsi=2AiS4UiE77RSYgSJ brakes are on fire 🔥.
Don’t get me wrong I would love to have the car since I don’t do circuits anyway but brakes should get a upgrade
Yeah you bring up a good point that the majority of people do not need extra racing mods out of this car haha. I think depending on the track and the drivers skill level stock could be enough, but yeah brakes are the first thing I would upgrade.
@@officialmichaeltan this and of course Nurburgring is a very long circuit model s plaid record is 7.25 so 1 lap here is like 4-5 laps on a normal circuit.
@@richarddijkhuizen4720 100%