After more 14" gaming laptops? I've recently reviewed Alienware's x14 here and it's better than I expected! ruclips.net/video/Pf3nAlq19q0/видео.html 6:38 I meant Radeon for G14, the point is HDMI goes to dGPU on both.
We are waiting unpatiently the video with the ranking of the best laptops of the year, I think it will be like Asus Advantage Edition #1, Lenovo Legion #2, do not forget us my friend.
Hey Jarrod, any word on a review for the 2022 Predator Triton 300 SE? One SKU (i7-12700H, RTX 3060, 16GB, 1TB) is currently available on Best Buy Canada for $2399. For reference the G14 (R9-6900HS, RX 6800S, 16GB, 1TB) is $2299. Both have DDR5, 2560x1600 Display. The Predator has Thunderbolt and Ethernet although less port selection overall. Thanks, Dave
Thank you for all your input =) can't wait for you to compare the blade 14 2022 vs the new 2023. I think the new one has better screen and expandable memory but can't see it worth upgrading. Can't wait to hear your thoughts when the review embargo gets lifted!
The price difference alone is insane and automatically leans me toward the G14. Then add in the lack of upgradility for ram and limited at 16GB, that just seals the deal
Also Razer doesnt have great customer support from what i heared.. so you can pray nothing will happen to your razer so you wont need to go through the hassle of contacting their customer support.
Rog zephyrus G14 2060 Ryzen 9 8 GB here, I don't regret. Buying it but if I wanted to upgrade I am still not convinced by either labtop unless G14 get 12-16 GB Vram option with a solid 32 GB
The upgradability of the RAM is something of a double edged sword, because if you need >16GB (or end up doing so in the future) being able to add mode is a definite plus point, but if you don't then the hinderance of single channel RAM is a drawback.
Asus also has the imho giant advantage of letting you keep your battery at 60% while you have it plugged in for a long time to stop degradation as much as possible
@Anand I would definitely agree with the keyboard being better on the G14, latency is fairly low on both, screen definitely goes to Razer imo unless your main focus is brightness (nits) and that only applies to the 2022 models. G14s and Asus laptops in general are prone to fairly severe screen bleed...I returned 2 before getting one that wasn't God-awful. Audio I'd probably lean towards the 2022 G14 as the 2022 Blade sounded a bit tinny. That was also greatly improved in this year's models. I agree with the rest of what you said. I travel extensively for work and actually have both of these. The G14 is the one I take on more rugged trips, but the Blade 14 is my baby lol
the Blade is just a wannabe Macbook with a matching price, except they only (tried) to copy the build quality and ignored everything else that makes the Macbook so good, like the insane battery life, top tier screen, insane speakers etc.
I would love to see a comparison of the 16gb ram versions of the G14 with 6800s vs G14 with 6700s Jarrod, deciding if the extra bump in price would be worth it
i have the one with the 16 gigs and 6700s and i freaking love it, for the money its hard to get this much performance out of any other laptop. especially with the 500 nit screen. Its a serious good smoking deal.
@@unendingquandary I run an Asus ZenBook 14" with 8gb ram a Ryzen 5 4600 and an mx 350 dedicated GPU .. I've been looking to upgrade to your configuration that u have as I can only use nothing bigger then the 14" screen size n my setup. Your laptop looks like the beast to go with
@@olddadagamer it really is man, you won't regret it. make sure when you purchase it, that you specifically get the 2022 model aand not the 2021. Although the 2021 model is significantly cheaper, I plan on using this laptop for at least a couple of years and feel the zen 3 cpu and rdna2 graphics will last a good while.
I got the g14 6700s a few days ago. I had to exchange twice because the first two had pretty bad backlight bleed. At first it was annoying how hot the g14 got, but after playing with the manual settings I got the temps down significantly. Of course i'm not trying to push the system to its limits, i'm fine pushing less watts even it means waiting a couple more minutes for a video render. This laptop is perfect for me, i play less demanding games sometimes. For example warframe, on native resolution with high settings i max out at 120, with manual set to 75 watts total, my cpu and gpu temps stay in the 70s. I could probably get it down more but dont have enough time to really fine tune it. Basically, i think the g14 is amazing. Just determine if it will push your games that you play. In terms of work stuff the chip is more than powerful enough for my needs even when its not maxed out. I come from a ryzen 1700x desktop and its till faster than that lol. The manual settings is what really saves this laptop for me. Can really customize it to your needs and get the temps down how you like it. If your just min/maxing and want the highest possible performance than maybe this isnt for you, but I dont think like that at all, with the newest chip, and manual settings its fast enough for my needs for davinci, photoshop, lightroom and can play the games that i like. Also, the screen is nice, but I cant say its amazing, the contrast isnt the greatest and like i said i had to return the first 2 cuz of severe backlight bleed.
did you get it with the radeon or RTX graphics ? coz i see options of getting M16 with Nvidia card.. i think that would be a great deal... the only thing is i cannot upgrade it to 64 ram... so thats a bit unfortunate..
Basically I can see the Razer's problem with upgradeability. The price of the hi-end configurations cannot justify the fact, that the max amount of RAM remains at 16GB. There has to be 32GB for sure. I think it is a big problem for Razer here. They should update this 14 inch laptop line pretty fast or watch falling sales.
I just picked up a 2022 Blade 14 3070ti for $1751. At this price I am absolutely comfortable and happy with my choice. However, if I had to pay MSRP, it would have been G14 all the way. I do agree with the others, I'd like to see 32GB on the blade 14 down the line, and perhaps a 16:10 screen in the very near future.
I have the 2020 G14 version 2060 Ryzen 9 it's still not good enough for gaming I think if ROG upgraded Vram 12-16 Vram I think it can compete with Razer Blade 14 if razer want to be the Emperor of Gaming small. Labtops it needs a solid 32 GB or a spare Ram slot, razer are greedy but also surprisingly sufficient if they actually listen they would dominate the market, besides the battery life issues more like slashing pricing and maybe trying to use less expensive parts to match rog pricing so people can buy them
@@rajpatel5650 I bought it from someone that used it for a month and their company switched to MacOS. It was the right time and right place sort of thing!
I've had that 6700s G14 for a couple weeks now and I agree, that for the price it is a very well built and impressive machine. The screen is great, and it plays all my games quiet well, not quite a powerhouse, but for the size, build, and price it is a great value. I wish there were more AMD laptops with higher power chips out there, I couldn't find anything besides this and the 6800s version appears to be out of stock. Thanks Jarrod!
I've owned a razer blade 14 and a g15 (which is practically identical to the g14 for build) and I have to say, I was impressed with the g15 2022 when I got it but then getting the blade 14 after I was just blown away by the build quality. The blade is worth the premium price. The build is absolute quality and g15 felt crap in comparison. It's cooler, quieter and more powerful. The g15 got bloody loud and bloody hot in comparison. Plus you get 7 hours or so of battery life when doing things like RUclips and browsing the web. It's the perfect machine. Get the blade if you can
It is pretty simple really, for smaller laptops an 16:10 screen is a much better choice than a dinky 16:9 one. I simply could not really get some work done without feeling claustrophobic because the height of the screen was just too low on my 16:9 machines.
@@Jake-my5qt it's totally worth if you need the portability as there's no better portable gaming laptop than this and it's much faster than 2021 3060 G14. If you don't need the portability you can get larger more powerful laptops, STRIX AE being the perfect example (I have one)
I have the blade 14 for less than 2400 running on 3080ti. They are really worth the money. They have performed extremely well, they even worked extremely well for productivity use, being the cam and mic quality is so much better than most slim ultrabook that claims to be better theoretically, which is obiously not true. You got to own one and use them long enough to really know its overall good performance apart from just pure gaming performance. They worked impressively well even when i push them hard with solidworks software. Downloads and copying large files takes amazingly lesser time to complete too, not to mention rendering. Just as Jarrod mentioned, i also experienced much much quieter fan noise, compared to every other laptop ive used when pushed hard. I can say personally, they are really good. They also now have smart charging available to limit charging percentage to 80% to protect the battery if you plug in to use it for extended hours, which increase battery longevity. Thumbs up to them doing this for better durability for battery lifecycle.
I just really get worried with temperatures and thermal throttling after a bit o dust in the heatsink and fans. I had a terrible experience with my previous Zephyrus.
I'm going to be 100% honest with all of you, please don't waste thousands of dollars on a laptop just because you think it looks luxurious. I owned a Razer Blade 15 oled and the latest one. At first, I was pleased about it when I first spent 3 thousand dollars on the computer brand I'd always dreamed of having when I used to be a teenager in 2017(I wasn't able to afford it back then). I was impressed with the chroma keyboard customization back then. Later, after I got the razer blade 15, it was such a glory at first, but I later realized how poorly the battery life is after 2 days when I hardly used it. It got unsatisfying features on the Synapse, screen is annoying to clean when it gets filthy, sound quality isn't impressive, it's design is nothing special but continues to downgrade over time, the razer's customer service was critical, and looking back to see the criticism about the blade 15 just made me lost my courage. I just felt defrauded by razer I ended up returning it. I ended heartbroken until I was introduced to another PC brand that offers a way better advantage, ASUS ROG. I ended up getting the Asus zephyrus g15 and honestly, I really loved it at the end. I was able to easily enjoy my beautiful experience to this gaming laptop, Asus Rog got friendly service incase I got problems with my computer, price of the laptop is cheap, warranty is cheap, and it got allot of amazing features to RBG keyboard design, and specs what the zephyrus had what razer blade doesn't. Thank god I saved my wallet, and let this be a lesson to my story. Don't judge of how good a gaming laptop it looks before you get to know it's true colors.
Just wanted to point out and say thank you Jarrod for still including the 2021 G14 for it's still very much relevant, very powerful, and relatively cheap machine. Plus I still know how my laptop holds up to the 2022 varient in games and performance. I really hope the 2023 version gets a Nvidia version ( as well as all AMD, not fanboying just Nvidia GPU's better suit my needs/work).
If the grey g14 was available in the US, I'd probably already own one (which is kinda a blessing in disguise because I suspect the slim 7 would be a better choice for me). Other than it being white, I don't see why anyone would pick the blade at the price razer is asking.
Same, I don't like the white and was waiting for the gray. Ultimately I just bought an M16 with a 3060 instead because I was tired of waiting. The battery life isn't as good but the bigger screen is nice.
@@WolfShroom That's awesome! I really like the direction asus is going in with these laptops. Good for productivity AND gaming, you don't have to pick one or the other.
The 3070ti Razer 14 would have been a better comparison and is more efficient. HDMI 2.1, rear vaper chamber vs side vents, Samsung NVME, and DLSS sealed the deal for me.
G14 looks amazing, but im still conflicted between the G14 vs G15 vs M16 for content creation mainly with some gaming as well and battery life is important. Ahhh the choices, What would you guys use?
Im just a gamer but i would just throw the g14 out of the question, too small for gaming. If you have external monitor and need portability sure. Other than that its comes down to better cpu performance (m16) or better battery(g15). Personally im a huge fan of the m16 looks/feel, but o hate 16 by 10 for gaming so i would pick the g15, then again that 500 nit screen would be nice for well lit rooms. Tough choice.
I suppose it depends on price. In the UK the top spec G14 is £2k the same price as the G15 with the same Cpu, 3070 ti and a Qhd 240hz screen. I'd go G15 in that case. Equivalent M16 is £600 more. I think the Nvidia gpu is a safer bet for the same price. Depends what you're using it for ultimately though.
One thing to remember, the G14's charging capable USB-C is USB4, at least on the hardware perspective, but drivers are not ready yet, at least from what I heard.
Apparently many AMD laptops are coming with USB4 now which is not only faster but also supports PCIe devices. And yes, the updated drivers have been been promised for G14.
For what it's worth, when I tried the G14, I plugged it into my OWC TB4 dock. It worked perfectly, and it even hooked up to my Apple Studio Display, which is a TB monitor, and was able to do 5K output.
the razer blade 14 with 6900hx also got updated to have usb 4 support at 40gbps. seems like the update is rolling out to most amd 6000 series equipped notebooks.
You let us down on G14 review, Jarrod. Several important things about the G14 you (nor other reviewers) didn't cover. Most important, is that we are dependent on Asus for gpu drivers. While a few have gotten drivers direct from AMD and not had problems, many others have problems since they didn't get the G14-customized ones from Asus. AMD's website release notes even show the drivers don't apply to the 6700s/6800s. I don't know why they are being treated differently than 6800m, 6700m, 6600m laptops but the G14 is and unsure who is to blame. Next, we are locked out of practically all gpu settings, cannot adjust cclock or mclock (I had expected to be locked out of power limit due to Smartshift). Lastly, until investigated and tweaked by owners, any activity on the G14 like opening a folder, causes the cpu to spike to 96 degrees. With no tweaking at all, after setup, the idle temp is also outrageously high given background apps and the cpu temp spiking constantly. Hopefully you will do a follow up analysis of these G14 issues. New models have growing pains but this stuff should have been covered by expert reviewers, certainly one as proficient and trusted as you.
I have blade 14 w/3080Ti and I love it with all my heart (lol). For me, paying the $3.5k+ is well worth getting a constant 110fps+ on warzone @1440p and Halo Infinite. There is nothing else on the market that can give me that performancem (g14 cannot do 100+) and, at the same time, allow me to carry it easily anywhere. My friend has the 2022 G14 for which I have played around with, and the build quality of the blade cannot be understated. It is thin, extremely solid, and can be used seamlessly while laying in bed or on an airplane. No screen wobble at all. But in all honestly, I couldn't recommend it to anyone who wasn't willing to blow all that money for strict gaming. I was playing warzone on my Blade 14 in a coffee shop in Copenhagen the other day, and so many people were so intrigued about how well it played in such a small beautiful package. Thats the value of the blade IMO. But in all honestly, I couldn't recommend it to anyone who wasn't willing to blow all that money for strict gaming. I instead told people to check out the G14 lol.
hmm not true, i have the g14 6700s and regularly get 100+ on warzone at 1440p. at 1080p which is nearly indistinguishable on a 14" screen i regularly get 140+ and thats with cpu turbo boost turned off
The 6700S literally gets 100+ fps in both games you've mentioned lmao.. you overpaid massively if you were just looking to get 100+ fps in COD or Halo (these games will run on anything they're not demanding in the slightest)
Hi :D I enjoy watching your reviews. Have you got any plans to do a review of MSI GE67HX? Specs-wise it looks more powerful than any other 15" laptop and rivalries with Lenovo 7i gen 7, but there is like no review of it on youtube - only the newest Titan HX got attention :D
The problem for me is that I need laptops for meetings and such, so I do need the professional look of the blade 14. But I would buy the g14 def… don’t know what to do
The G14 won't stand out in a meeting beyond the fact that it's a white laptop. If you get the higher spec version just don't put the Animatrix display on and turn off the RGB.
Great video. I have an older model g14 with the ryzen 9 4900hs and rtx 2060 and have problems with it constantly giving me bsod. I'm leaning more towards getting the razer instead.
Something not mentioned in the video is the keyboard layouts on non-US models. For some reason non-US models of the the G14 still come with a US-style ANSI keyboard just with region specific labelling. The non-US models of the Blade on the other hand come with regular ISO keyboards. This borderline design flaw by ASUS with the non-US G14s is important to note as it will be a deal breaker for many non-US buyers.
It really says a lot about Razer when they charge mountains for a 14" laptop and they refuse to put 32Gb ram in it. Also, I am having my first support issue with my 2021 15" advanced blade, it was started 2 weeks ago, and they are still "getting back to me and escalating". Zero help so far, ZERO. I've never ever experienced anything this bad, and it means I will NEVER buy a Razer product again. Ever.
I actually can not believe the reply I got after waiting three weeks, it is like I am in the twilight zone. They ignored ALL my detailed reporting, were concerned why I cared that my processor got locked when I should not be undervolting anyway, even after I told them that I was under CLOCKING because Razer do not allow fan control in the high performance mode and the computer was hitting 100 degrees with barely any fan speed increase and I wanted to avoid that, and I asked WHY do they allow fan control in the LOW performance mode, and that every reviewer has pointed that out for YEARS now.. They completely ignored every word I said, even after I explained I only needed to lower the multiplier so I could use the high performance mode without hitting throttle point all the time, cause the low performance mode where you CAN adjust the fans never gets hot anyway even with auto fan! (Jarrod has discovered the exact same thing as have a ton of reviewers. IDIOTS). THEY are IDIOTS. And they ignored when I said I said I lost access to multipliers and that lowering multipliers was GOOD for it as it lowered heat without any stability risks, and yep, they just told me to: RESET THE COMPUTER. Razer support ladies and gentlemen! I did that first thing three weeks ago and it didn't fix it. They ignored my blue screens, error beeps, losing the discrete GFX completely on and off.. THREE WEEKS to just say "reset the computer pressing F9 when you start". I have not responded kindly this time and said if they don't have technicians who understand voltages/temps/multipliers etc that I was happy to teach them but they need to understand they are dealing with an experienced computer user. NEVER EVER BUY A RAZER AS LONG AS YOU LIVE. MAKE IT YOUR LIFE'S MISSION TO NEVER SEND A CENT TO THIS DISGRACEFUL JOKE OF A COMPANY. And Jarrod? You give these assholes a pass and always give Alienware a hard time, well Alienware's support and even their software is on another stratosphere of quality compared to these razer losers. I honestly hope you get a faulty unity one day of Razers so you can simply experience what I have, seriously, and the zero knowledge, robotic script reading idiots I have had to deal with, where you will already know more than they ever will.
@@teddym2808 Dell/Alienware support hasn’t been good since 2016 or so. It’s a bunch of Indian people and fixing a Dell XPS that had serious sleep/wake issues took 4 YEARS.
So they told me I shouldn't really undervolt and that it can cause instability, and to do a computer reset. That was it. This is my reply, I just copoed and pasted for anyone who is interested in this ridiculous saga (I guess I will hear back from them in another few weeks): Have you guys actually read what I wrote, seriously? Almost 3 weeks of waiting and I clearly said I do not undervolt or overclock the computer. I would NEVER dream of overclocking such a thermally challenged machine. All I do is set the clock multipliers lower, i.e. underCLOCK so the computer doesn't generate so much heat. What I do is GOOD for it. This has NOTHING to do with voltage or undervolting, nada. By losing the ability to do that, the computer is running at factory Razer specs which is far too hot. Because Razer will not let me set the fans to full speed on performance mode, I am keeping the computer in balanced mode which drops as low as 2.4ghz, which is outrageous for a 4 thousand dollar laptop. If I could only set the fans on maximum in the high performance mode.... The default multipliers of an 11800H are 1 core activity at 46x for 4.6ghz clock speed 2 core activity at 46x for 4.6ghz clock speed 3 cores activity at 45x for 4.5ghz clock speed 4 cores activity at 45x for 4.5ghz clock speed 5 cores activity at 45x for 4.5ghz clock speed 6 cores activity at 44x for 4.4ghz clock speed 7 cores activity at 43x for 4.3ghz clock speed 8 cores activity at 42x for 4.2ghz clock speed - this is the max turbo speed if all 8 cores are being used. All I did was set all those multipliers to 38x, so the computer is running at 3.8ghz maximum, so I am losing performance but it's a perfect trade off. This avoids thermal throttle and excessive heat. In a AAA game where the graphics are heavily loaded as well, I would set the CPU to a 35 multiplier for 3.5ghz The bus clock is 100mhz on these processors, which is what the multiplier above is calculated with, which is why 35x100 = 3500 mhz, for example. Any game can be played at 3.5ghz.. you do not need 4.2ghz to play any current AAA game. Therefore the computer does not need to run so hot. This kept temperatures in check because razer has terrible temperature issues as addressed again below. Sorry but I feel I have to explain it to YOU guys! I am very experienced with computers.. My entire income was sourced from repairing and building them from 1998-2014. Secondly, my question about fan control has been completely ignored, as if I never even wrote it. Is this why you ignore all the long time, combined multi million follower reviewers that have been complaining about the same thing? You just don't want to listen to ANYONE and what they have been saying and asking you to implement over the last few YEARS? I was warned and BEGGED not to buy a Razer but I didn't listen and bought it anyway, and never again in my LIFETIME. Just so you know you have lost a customer for life, and I have already purchased an MSI GE67 which arrived yesterday with 12800HX/32GB Ram/3070ti/2TB SSD A computer that crushes the one I have from Razer, at the same price. I mean I have been so nice but I don't know how to be nice anymore cause you are ignoring what I say and a simple support query is taking weeks. I am terrified to think what would happen if the entire computer failed! For one, I have already reset it and it didn't fix it. So that idea is out the window. I know how to do a computer reset. This is *likely* a bios issue and again you aren't listening. Your utility will not let me reinstall the latest bios cause it is already up to date, so I need a way to force install the very latest bios again to overwrite what is there, and this will probably fix everything. This is what I have been asking for. Furthermore, if it IS a Razer Synapse update that broke it, even with a successful reset it will just break it again when it auto updates. If there has been some microcode forced into my processor to lock it, I need to know why and how to avoid it a second time. When I bought the computer this processer was LOCKED. I immediately, within hours, told the store I was returning it as it ran too hot and the fan control was backwards, allowing me to manually set the fans at maximum in balanced mode which never gets hot ANYWAY, but I can't set them to maximum speed in high performance mode and they are slow to ramp up and allow the processor to hit 100 degrees before the power limit kicks in and lowers performance under load to around 3.4 or 3.5ghz. This is from Razer's own built in power limit design. The system was not designed to be able to effectively cool 4.2ghz on all cores which is why Razer has a power limit set in after a few seconds. By lowering the multiplier I was effectively just setting the CPU at speeds that were within the chassis' thermal capabilities, at all times, without boosting over 4ghz and heating up. If I was allowed to set the fans to maximum speed manually, in boost mode, the processor would never hit the 100 degrees it does now, and I never would have needed to lower the maximum multiplier to begin with, hence MHZ speed, of the processor. Reviewers and customers have been trying to tell Razer this and you just won't listen, and now I know why. You don't listen to customers and reviewers with experience telling you when they have an issue, and go off on another tangent! This is from my own experience the past few weeks! Anyway, within 24 hours razer supplied a bios to the store that unlocked the CPU and it has worked fine for 6 months ever since, until 3 weeks ago. It's funny when a sale is at stake just how quickly the store was able to get support form you guys! It was because of that bios that I decided to keep the computer, as I could now run it in boost mode maintaining a reasonable speed of 3.5 to 3.8ghz, without the computer overheating and hitting 100 degrees. The most it would now hit is about 91. When I lost the ability to lower the multipliers, in boost mode it is now running outrageously hot again since the computer is trying to hit 4.2ghz on all cores and the fan is so slow to ramp up, and since I can't pre set the fan to maximum like I can in balanced mode, I am now forced to use the Razer factory balanced mode if I don't want crazy temperatures.. However this is lowering performance drastically from where it was just 3 weeks ago. In balanced mode I get 2.4 or 2.5ghz under load now vs 3.5 to 3.8 I had when the processor was unlocked, by simply lowering the multipliers to a point where the processor didn't throttle. I do not KNOW how to explain it any clearer to you! Furthermore I have told you and the forum admin that when this problem happened, my discrete 3070 graphics card stopped working, the computer was making a loud error beep on boot, and I kept getting blue screens. I haven't received a single word back on that! After I loaded "default optimised bios settings" in the bios, it fixed THAT issue (so it seems for a few days now) and the discrete graphics now work again but the processor is locked. So now let me get this right.. you took 3 weeks to simply tell me to "reset the computer", am I reading this correctly, or am I going insane? I need to know, do you have any experienced technicians there who understand the system or do I need to explain it all to you? Power limits, voltages, multipliers etc? Cause I will if I have to! So, no, an operating system reset doesn't fix it. Shall we start an RMA and within the next year, hopefully I will get a fix or replacement? Cause without trying to reinstall the latest bios there is nothing else I can do from this end, unless Razer releases a Synapse/bios update from your end which fixes it. Sincerely, but very frustrated and losing my patience, Ted
@@cameronbosch1213 bullshit. I have first hand experience that "those Indian people" that you were just so racist about had fantastic support. The only reason I don't believe you is because you went straight to racism, which is telling me that's what your issue is really about, that they outsource support (like everyone in existence in 2022). Plus. I have never dealt with finer support in my life, and for on site service, it is your local authorised repairer. Not someone overseas. Nope, don't believe you, sorry.
We can't buy the grey version in Canada with the better screen (stuck with a lower grade 1920 x 1200), and you can't get the grey in the US and are stuck with white. Certainly not going to blend in, in an office enviroment. So Asus lost a sale and I bought the RB 14". So far no issues and I'm quite happy with it. I don't understand why Asus do these silly spec changes based upon region.
When the starting price of the Razer (with a 3060) is higher than the _maximum_ spec of the G14, I have to wonder who's buying them outside of holiday sales and Cyber Monday?! 😮
Not enough to go to Razer. G14 2022 FTW almost enticing me to get it and replace my 2021 model. However it is missing OLED hehe once OLED is avail and just a little more upgrades and it would be irresistible.
Was waiting for this comparison! So hypothetically...at what price would you pick the Razer over the G14? $2800? $2500? $2000? Curious what the threshold is. Thanks!
@@kobbycrentsil2859 Not sure if I am missing something but he does not yet have a full review on it. If based on other reviewers' feedbacks (which aren't the most detailed), it seems like x14 is in the middle on most categories listed in this video, which probably makes it deserving to be compared with these two.
@@leonard3100 I have an X14, and I tried it against the G14. For my personal use, it wasn't particularly close. At first glance, the G14 seems much better, and I thought so, too, since it has a nicer screen and is able to run silently for long periods of time with pretty good battery life in casual use. When pushed, however, both of them are just as loud and hot, but I could tell that the X14 has a much stronger CPU than the G14. I personally value CPU over GPU performance, since you can always turn down graphical settings or resolution (or use DLSS) to paper over GPU weaknesses (do you NEED ultra settings?), but you can't make up for the CPU not keeping up. On RTS titles, which are my favorite, the X14 outperformed the G14 by a lot. Also, another thing is that if you have a backpack that can hold the X14 (I got an Alienware backpack), the X14 has a lightweight USB-C brick that can charge lots of different devices, and the G14 has a chonker of a brick, though it can run on USB-C power at somewhat diminished capacity. Also, the X14 has fully functioning Thunderbolt. For someone like me that also uses MacBooks, that means, one cable docking. Of course, here I must mention that the G14, though it doesn't officially support Thunderbolt, worked fine with my TB4 dock, too. Anyway, as usual, you can't just look at reviews and decide that one computer's good and another is trash. I think the G14 is a better general purpose laptop, but if you're going to be using it close to max performance all the time and CPU performance is more important than GPU performance, then the X14 is much better.
@@kobbycrentsil2859 They’re just saying it’s not worth it because of the GPU wattage of the x14. I had the 2022 g14 and Rb 14 (2022 rtx 3060), and am currently using the x14 due to my work requirements. I returned the g14 because of the build quality and, for me, it is focused on providing ‘quality gaming experience’. Whereas, the x14 is for peeps like me who needs a strong cpu + atleast 20 gbs of ram. The rb14 is just total shit compared to the g14 and x14. Gave the rb14 to my brother and he likes it so much. To each their own, maybe.
Very nice video Jarrod! Now i own a Zephyrus G14 2021 with RTX 3060 and Ryzen 5800HS, should i consider to upgrade on the newer model or not? I would buy the one with 6800hs and RX6700s. I use this laptop for video editing and sometimes for gaming.
Not too related to the video. I'm not really an avid gamer, but if I were to buy a laptop for 3d modelling & rendering purposes only, should I only care about the RAM, Processor, & GPU? Would the FPS, Mux Switch, Bios, & others still matter? Can I ignore the FHD screen & just buy a separate monitor? Jarrods the only youtuber I trust when it comes to laptops & I hope he can give some insights on what matters on gaming vs productivity.
I feel like your usually reviewing higher end models of these already higher end machines doesn't correspond to what most people will be looking for. Most people want about the ~3060/i7/FHD sort of tier of gaming laptop, rather than 3080/i9/1440 or 4k sort of tier, I think it's more important to review what most people would go for rather than those with practically infinite budget
I've mentioned this in a few videos over the last couple of weeks. I request lower end options and brands send me their best. The only 3060 I've had this year I bought myself. I am currently testing the ideapad gaming 3 though.
The scratch on the lid is unfortunate for sure, and not blaming you, as it can happen to anyone, but just wanted to share my experience with Razer. I had a Blade Stealth 13 for about 3-4 years and after all that time, it still looked like new with no scratches anywhere. I don't think they're as easily scratched as this video might make it sound, it was just bad luck:( Not using the G14 (but a 2020 model), and I'm happy with it overall. Not sure if I need the latest model, but maybe if I come across a right deal.
Another important factor to consider is how monumentally bad Razer’s customer support is. I love the look and feel of their computers, but under no circumstances should you ever purchase one directly from their website. A quick Google search will quickly reveal just how bad the whole process is. By all means, get one through a big box store, but from my experience I will never give my money to a brand that treats their customers so poorly.
Hi Jarrod. Been stumped what to buy. Zephyrus g14 2022 rx6800s or legion 5 3070ti? I work from home and anywhere as long as theres wifi. Can you help me to decide?
even the RX 6700S lower priced version is still insane and still wins the same pros when paired up against the blade 14, because you end up with the same insane cpu. If youre looking for a budget laptop that could do anything the best laptops could do and even more, id go for the G14 (2022) RX6700S with a 32 gb ram. it is an actual B E A S T for such a cheap price of 1.1K USD
I am between G14 and G15 maxed out. Mostly for music production and secondarily for gaming. I heard that Radeon is better for audio than Nvidia (latency spikes). Would appreciate any input fellow friends.
If you're serious about music production, you would probably want a computer that makes no fan noise, can be used live without worrying about battery use, has amazing CPU performance, has great audio drivers, doesn't drain battery or overheat in your backpack, etc. You might not want to hear this, but that would be a MacBook. If not, look for an Intel. Currently, Intel greatly outperforms AMD in CPU workloads. My short time with the G14 (which I returned) was full of blue screens for doing relatively simple things like switching fan profiles, was noticeably less CPU-capable than Intel laptops, and I definitely wouldn't want to use it for music. In any case, why does nVidia even matter for serious audio work? Your DAW would run on integrated graphics, would never touch discrete graphics. I'd go with an Intel over AMD. Maybe something like an XPS 9520. I have a MacBook Pro 14" and Alienware X14, but I wouldn't recommend the X14 for primarily audio work because of fan noise. It's a really good choice, however, if you find a nicely priced one on the Outlet Store. The 3060 is great, but honestly, the 3050 and 3050 Ti models are fine for productivity work and some gaming on the side.
I went with the G14 between those two, but it depends on what you're looking for. The G15 is more powerful, but also less portable. For me the G14 had good enough performance and portability was a necessity considering I also take it with me to work.
Shows how spoiled we’ve when we can’t do I g15 for travel. 10 years ago people were traveling(not ideal) with 8-10lb laptops. A 3.5 and 4.5 difference isn’t much.
After more 14" gaming laptops? I've recently reviewed Alienware's x14 here and it's better than I expected! ruclips.net/video/Pf3nAlq19q0/видео.html
6:38 I meant Radeon for G14, the point is HDMI goes to dGPU on both.
We are waiting unpatiently the video with the ranking of the best laptops of the year, I think it will be like Asus Advantage Edition #1, Lenovo Legion #2, do not forget us my friend.
Hey Jarrod, any word on a review for the 2022 Predator Triton 300 SE?
One SKU (i7-12700H, RTX 3060, 16GB, 1TB) is currently available on Best Buy Canada for $2399.
For reference the G14 (R9-6900HS, RX 6800S, 16GB, 1TB) is $2299.
Both have DDR5, 2560x1600 Display.
The Predator has Thunderbolt and Ethernet although less port selection overall.
Thanks,
Dave
any Best 15 version of the laptops competition.
Where did you get the black G14 with RTX 3060? It seem like it's all Moonlight White in the USA here.
Thank you for all your input =) can't wait for you to compare the blade 14 2022 vs the new 2023. I think the new one has better screen and expandable memory but can't see it worth upgrading. Can't wait to hear your thoughts when the review embargo gets lifted!
The price difference alone is insane and automatically leans me toward the G14. Then add in the lack of upgradility for ram and limited at 16GB, that just seals the deal
Also Razer doesnt have great customer support from what i heared.. so you can pray nothing will happen to your razer so you wont need to go through the hassle of contacting their customer support.
My whole setup is Razer but this time I’m really considering the G14
@@Dbzq9 Probably a Linux dream come true! AMD drivers > NVIDIA GPU drivers. And great third-party Linux support tools (asus-ctl)!
Rog zephyrus G14 2060 Ryzen 9 8 GB here, I don't regret. Buying it but if I wanted to upgrade I am still not convinced by either labtop unless G14 get 12-16 GB Vram option with a solid 32 GB
The upgradability of the RAM is something of a double edged sword, because if you need >16GB (or end up doing so in the future) being able to add mode is a definite plus point, but if you don't then the hinderance of single channel RAM is a drawback.
Asus also has the imho giant advantage of letting you keep your battery at 60% while you have it plugged in for a long time to stop degradation as much as possible
G14 apparently outshines the Blade in so many ways
One word. Value.
In so many digits
Except in performance. But it seems that the g14 is more convenient
It's cheaper, that's about it
@Anand I would definitely agree with the keyboard being better on the G14, latency is fairly low on both, screen definitely goes to Razer imo unless your main focus is brightness (nits) and that only applies to the 2022 models. G14s and Asus laptops in general are prone to fairly severe screen bleed...I returned 2 before getting one that wasn't God-awful. Audio I'd probably lean towards the 2022 G14 as the 2022 Blade sounded a bit tinny. That was also greatly improved in this year's models. I agree with the rest of what you said. I travel extensively for work and actually have both of these. The G14 is the one I take on more rugged trips, but the Blade 14 is my baby lol
the Blade is just a wannabe Macbook with a matching price, except they only (tried) to copy the build quality and ignored everything else that makes the Macbook so good, like the insane battery life, top tier screen, insane speakers etc.
If you are a gamer tho macbook is not an option….. Unless you like playing phone app games on a $3000+ laptop.
@@victorw.330 Are you a necromancer?
😂
Asus laptops lowkey go crazy, I’ve been using a ROG for a year and it still running like 🔥
Does that fire mean it runs amazing or it runs hot
Bots now buy gaming laptops and play games? Strange
1 year is nothing my Lenovo y50 been running 7 years and still playing
@@VorteX_SH bots? dude has a youtube channel with uploads and was created in 2015
@@VorteX_SH I have 1.3M views and I joined in 2015 😭
I would love to see a comparison of the 16gb ram versions of the G14 with 6800s vs G14 with 6700s Jarrod, deciding if the extra bump in price would be worth it
Depending on sales, you are looking at a 25% increase in price for a ~15% increase in performance
Please. I really want to see how the 6700s performs.
ASUS didn't send it, so it was either do the comparison like this or not at all unfortunately.
@@JarrodsTech Yea it makes sense. It seems that no in depth reviewers got that sample. However, thanks for putting out another quality video.
@@JarrodsTech want asus g14 vs razer 14 vs alienware x14 triple threat comparison video!!!
Please!!!
i have the one with the 16 gigs and 6700s and i freaking love it, for the money its hard to get this much performance out of any other laptop. especially with the 500 nit screen. Its a serious good smoking deal.
I have the same configuration. Getting this much performance out of a laptop this size without paying Razer level prices almost feels like cheating.
@@unendingquandary I run an Asus ZenBook 14" with 8gb ram a Ryzen 5 4600 and an mx 350 dedicated GPU .. I've been looking to upgrade to your configuration that u have as I can only use nothing bigger then the 14" screen size n my setup. Your laptop looks like the beast to go with
@@olddadagamer it really is man, you won't regret it. make sure when you purchase it, that you specifically get the 2022 model aand not the 2021. Although the 2021 model is significantly cheaper, I plan on using this laptop for at least a couple of years and feel the zen 3 cpu and rdna2 graphics will last a good while.
I got the g14 6700s a few days ago. I had to exchange twice because the first two had pretty bad backlight bleed. At first it was annoying how hot the g14 got, but after playing with the manual settings I got the temps down significantly. Of course i'm not trying to push the system to its limits, i'm fine pushing less watts even it means waiting a couple more minutes for a video render. This laptop is perfect for me, i play less demanding games sometimes. For example warframe, on native resolution with high settings i max out at 120, with manual set to 75 watts total, my cpu and gpu temps stay in the 70s. I could probably get it down more but dont have enough time to really fine tune it.
Basically, i think the g14 is amazing. Just determine if it will push your games that you play. In terms of work stuff the chip is more than powerful enough for my needs even when its not maxed out. I come from a ryzen 1700x desktop and its till faster than that lol. The manual settings is what really saves this laptop for me. Can really customize it to your needs and get the temps down how you like it.
If your just min/maxing and want the highest possible performance than maybe this isnt for you, but I dont think like that at all, with the newest chip, and manual settings its fast enough for my needs for davinci, photoshop, lightroom and can play the games that i like.
Also, the screen is nice, but I cant say its amazing, the contrast isnt the greatest and like i said i had to return the first 2 cuz of severe backlight bleed.
did you get it with the radeon or RTX graphics ? coz i see options of getting M16 with Nvidia card.. i think that would be a great deal... the only thing is i cannot upgrade it to 64 ram... so thats a bit unfortunate..
@@batmanonholiday4477 i got the 6700s
@@batmanonholiday4477 as he said in the first sentence of his comment, he got the 6700s
@@javierelozano lol true
Did you disable cpu boost? My temp went down to 80c.
Basically I can see the Razer's problem with upgradeability. The price of the hi-end configurations cannot justify the fact, that the max amount of RAM remains at 16GB. There has to be 32GB for sure. I think it is a big problem for Razer here. They should update this 14 inch laptop line pretty fast or watch falling sales.
I just picked up a 2022 Blade 14 3070ti for $1751. At this price I am absolutely comfortable and happy with my choice. However, if I had to pay MSRP, it would have been G14 all the way.
I do agree with the others, I'd like to see 32GB on the blade 14 down the line, and perhaps a 16:10 screen in the very near future.
From where did you got that in that much low price?
I have the 2020 G14 version 2060 Ryzen 9 it's still not good enough for gaming I think if ROG upgraded Vram 12-16 Vram I think it can compete with Razer Blade 14 if razer want to be the Emperor of Gaming small. Labtops it needs a solid 32 GB or a spare Ram slot, razer are greedy but also surprisingly sufficient if they actually listen they would dominate the market, besides the battery life issues more like slashing pricing and maybe trying to use less expensive parts to match rog pricing so people can buy them
@@rajpatel5650 I bought it from someone that used it for a month and their company switched to MacOS. It was the right time and right place sort of thing!
I've had that 6700s G14 for a couple weeks now and I agree, that for the price it is a very well built and impressive machine. The screen is great, and it plays all my games quiet well, not quite a powerhouse, but for the size, build, and price it is a great value. I wish there were more AMD laptops with higher power chips out there, I couldn't find anything besides this and the 6800s version appears to be out of stock. Thanks Jarrod!
Hola, cuando dora la batería modo ofimático?
@@herryzg4270 supposedly 10hrs
I've owned a razer blade 14 and a g15 (which is practically identical to the g14 for build) and I have to say, I was impressed with the g15 2022 when I got it but then getting the blade 14 after I was just blown away by the build quality.
The blade is worth the premium price. The build is absolute quality and g15 felt crap in comparison. It's cooler, quieter and more powerful. The g15 got bloody loud and bloody hot in comparison. Plus you get 7 hours or so of battery life when doing things like RUclips and browsing the web.
It's the perfect machine. Get the blade if you can
You forgot the G14's biggest issue... finding one in Australia!
Hey man what’s up love your video’s keep up the good work can you review the alien ware x14 and compare it to the g14 thanks
Depends on if I can get an x14. I rarely get sent Alienware laptops.
Razer is probably targeting to compete with the 14 inch MacBook pro in price rather than the g14
It is pretty simple really, for smaller laptops an 16:10 screen is a much better choice than a dinky 16:9 one. I simply could not really get some work done without feeling claustrophobic because the height of the screen was just too low on my 16:9 machines.
There's no question... 6700S G14 is the goat
What do you think is the equivalent of a 6700s compared to an Nvidia?
@@Jake-my5qt either a really high watt 3060 or lower watt 3070 but more close to the 3070 because of VRAM
@@yellowflash511 Do you think it's worth the money? Or I should go for an Nvidia?
@@Jake-my5qt it's totally worth if you need the portability as there's no better portable gaming laptop than this and it's much faster than 2021 3060 G14. If you don't need the portability you can get larger more powerful laptops, STRIX AE being the perfect example (I have one)
@@yellowflash511 Yeah I also think so. Its just that almost everyone is giving AMD gpus bad reputation, which leaves me confused.
I have the blade 14 for less than 2400 running on 3080ti. They are really worth the money. They have performed extremely well, they even worked extremely well for productivity use, being the cam and mic quality is so much better than most slim ultrabook that claims to be better theoretically, which is obiously not true.
You got to own one and use them long enough to really know its overall good performance apart from just pure gaming performance. They worked impressively well even when i push them hard with solidworks software. Downloads and copying large files takes amazingly lesser time to complete too, not to mention rendering. Just as Jarrod mentioned, i also experienced much much quieter fan noise, compared to every other laptop ive used when pushed hard. I can say personally, they are really good. They also now have smart charging available to limit charging percentage to 80% to protect the battery if you plug in to use it for extended hours, which increase battery longevity. Thumbs up to them doing this for better durability for battery lifecycle.
I just really get worried with temperatures and thermal throttling after a bit o dust in the heatsink and fans. I had a terrible experience with my previous Zephyrus.
also worried about this
ASUS has garbage quality control.
I'm going to be 100% honest with all of you, please don't waste thousands of dollars on a laptop just because you think it looks luxurious. I owned a Razer Blade 15 oled and the latest one. At first, I was pleased about it when I first spent 3 thousand dollars on the computer brand I'd always dreamed of having when I used to be a teenager in 2017(I wasn't able to afford it back then). I was impressed with the chroma keyboard customization back then. Later, after I got the razer blade 15, it was such a glory at first, but I later realized how poorly the battery life is after 2 days when I hardly used it. It got unsatisfying features on the Synapse, screen is annoying to clean when it gets filthy, sound quality isn't impressive, it's design is nothing special but continues to downgrade over time, the razer's customer service was critical, and looking back to see the criticism about the blade 15 just made me lost my courage. I just felt defrauded by razer I ended up returning it. I ended heartbroken until I was introduced to another PC brand that offers a way better advantage, ASUS ROG. I ended up getting the Asus zephyrus g15 and honestly, I really loved it at the end. I was able to easily enjoy my beautiful experience to this gaming laptop, Asus Rog got friendly service incase I got problems with my computer, price of the laptop is cheap, warranty is cheap, and it got allot of amazing features to RBG keyboard design, and specs what the zephyrus had what razer blade doesn't. Thank god I saved my wallet, and let this be a lesson to my story. Don't judge of how good a gaming laptop it looks before you get to know it's true colors.
Just wanted to point out and say thank you Jarrod for still including the 2021 G14 for it's still very much relevant, very powerful, and relatively cheap machine. Plus I still know how my laptop holds up to the 2022 varient in games and performance.
I really hope the 2023 version gets a Nvidia version ( as well as all AMD, not fanboying just Nvidia GPU's better suit my needs/work).
Even a 2017 laptop holds up in today's games, and it should, they didn't change much.
Will we see the Flow X16 review soon? I'm eagerly awaiting it's arrival to the market.
I'm waiting for the flow X16 as well! 🙌
Unfortunately, still waiting on one for review.
@@JarrodsTech No issues Jarrod! We know you'll make a review for us once you get your hands on one. ❤️🤘
Some people were complaining that G14, G15 and G16 and their lid as a stand can make it really uncomfortable when held on knees.
I added 32gb to the on board 8gb. For a total of 40 gb with Corsair Vengeance
If the grey g14 was available in the US, I'd probably already own one (which is kinda a blessing in disguise because I suspect the slim 7 would be a better choice for me). Other than it being white, I don't see why anyone would pick the blade at the price razer is asking.
Same, I don't like the white and was waiting for the gray. Ultimately I just bought an M16 with a 3060 instead because I was tired of waiting. The battery life isn't as good but the bigger screen is nice.
I felt the same at first but I needed a laptop... the white really grew on me tbh. Couldn't be happier with it
@@WolfShroom That's awesome! I really like the direction asus is going in with these laptops. Good for productivity AND gaming, you don't have to pick one or the other.
G14 is a much nicer value, but the Blade is just a much nicer build overal
6:38 - I think you meant to say that both connect to the dedicated GPU.
Indeed. Added a pinned comment.
Man for like almost half the price
The G14 looks sooooooo much better,
The 3070ti Razer 14 would have been a better comparison and is more efficient. HDMI 2.1, rear vaper chamber vs side vents, Samsung NVME, and DLSS sealed the deal for me.
Agreed dlss is a big plus for thr razer plus you really can't run the g14 at full power on turbo as it's like a jet engine
Hey Jarrod! Thanks for testing linux on both laptops. Keep up the good work.
G14 looks amazing, but im still conflicted between the G14 vs G15 vs M16 for content creation mainly with some gaming as well and battery life is important. Ahhh the choices, What would you guys use?
Im just a gamer but i would just throw the g14 out of the question, too small for gaming. If you have external monitor and need portability sure. Other than that its comes down to better cpu performance (m16) or better battery(g15). Personally im a huge fan of the m16 looks/feel, but o hate 16 by 10 for gaming so i would pick the g15, then again that 500 nit screen would be nice for well lit rooms. Tough choice.
I suppose it depends on price. In the UK the top spec G14 is £2k the same price as the G15 with the same Cpu, 3070 ti and a Qhd 240hz screen. I'd go G15 in that case. Equivalent M16 is £600 more. I think the Nvidia gpu is a safer bet for the same price. Depends what you're using it for ultimately though.
One thing to remember, the G14's charging capable USB-C is USB4, at least on the hardware perspective, but drivers are not ready yet, at least from what I heard.
Apparently many AMD laptops are coming with USB4 now which is not only faster but also supports PCIe devices. And yes, the updated drivers have been been promised for G14.
For what it's worth, when I tried the G14, I plugged it into my OWC TB4 dock. It worked perfectly, and it even hooked up to my Apple Studio Display, which is a TB monitor, and was able to do 5K output.
the razer blade 14 with 6900hx also got updated to have usb 4 support at 40gbps. seems like the update is rolling out to most amd 6000 series equipped notebooks.
So G14 + $1500 worth of games or a new couch vs. Blade. That's an easy decision. Thank you, Jarrod.
Please do full brightness battery life benchmarks! So many want this, then your reviwes would be PERFECT :)
You let us down on G14 review, Jarrod. Several important things about the G14 you (nor other reviewers) didn't cover. Most important, is that we are dependent on Asus for gpu drivers. While a few have gotten drivers direct from AMD and not had problems, many others have problems since they didn't get the G14-customized ones from Asus. AMD's website release notes even show the drivers don't apply to the 6700s/6800s. I don't know why they are being treated differently than 6800m, 6700m, 6600m laptops but the G14 is and unsure who is to blame. Next, we are locked out of practically all gpu settings, cannot adjust cclock or mclock (I had expected to be locked out of power limit due to Smartshift). Lastly, until investigated and tweaked by owners, any activity on the G14 like opening a folder, causes the cpu to spike to 96 degrees. With no tweaking at all, after setup, the idle temp is also outrageously high given background apps and the cpu temp spiking constantly. Hopefully you will do a follow up analysis of these G14 issues. New models have growing pains but this stuff should have been covered by expert reviewers, certainly one as proficient and trusted as you.
It will keep you toasty warm in the winter though
Just wanna say, thank you for the CC!
I have blade 14 w/3080Ti and I love it with all my heart (lol). For me, paying the $3.5k+ is well worth getting a constant 110fps+ on warzone @1440p and Halo Infinite. There is nothing else on the market that can give me that performancem (g14 cannot do 100+) and, at the same time, allow me to carry it easily anywhere. My friend has the 2022 G14 for which I have played around with, and the build quality of the blade cannot be understated. It is thin, extremely solid, and can be used seamlessly while laying in bed or on an airplane. No screen wobble at all.
But in all honestly, I couldn't recommend it to anyone who wasn't willing to blow all that money for strict gaming. I was playing warzone on my Blade 14 in a coffee shop in Copenhagen the other day, and so many people were so intrigued about how well it played in such a small beautiful package. Thats the value of the blade IMO. But in all honestly, I couldn't recommend it to anyone who wasn't willing to blow all that money for strict gaming. I instead told people to check out the G14 lol.
hmm not true, i have the g14 6700s and regularly get 100+ on warzone at 1440p. at 1080p which is nearly indistinguishable on a 14" screen i regularly get 140+ and thats with cpu turbo boost turned off
The 6700S literally gets 100+ fps in both games you've mentioned lmao.. you overpaid massively if you were just looking to get 100+ fps in COD or Halo (these games will run on anything they're not demanding in the slightest)
just got my g14 for my birthday 😁
nice
4:25 Wow, didn't remember the microphones to be so... bad.
Why even include it
Hi jarrod! Do you still own the blade 14 2022? Hows the battery? Im planning to buy a semi used one. Thank you!
Really appreciate that there is test for Linux compatibility. Thank you and subscribe immediately.
I can't find the G-14 in black for whatever reason
Apparently it's regional.
Nice video. But I am petty sure that the G14 HDMI port doesn't connect directly to the NVIDIA card. 😜
Lol
😅
always love your videos
Hi :D I enjoy watching your reviews. Have you got any plans to do a review of MSI GE67HX? Specs-wise it looks more powerful than any other 15" laptop and rivalries with Lenovo 7i gen 7, but there is like no review of it on youtube - only the newest Titan HX got attention :D
Yes! It's in testing at the moment.
@@JarrodsTech That's great :) Thanks in advance!
The problem for me is that I need laptops for meetings and such, so I do need the professional look of the blade 14. But I would buy the g14 def… don’t know what to do
the G14 isn't bad looking, you can take it into a meeting.
The G14 won't stand out in a meeting beyond the fact that it's a white laptop. If you get the higher spec version just don't put the Animatrix display on and turn off the RGB.
If the g14 had rtx gpus it would be an immediate buy for me
That's the 2023 g14 then with nvidia
Great video. I have an older model g14 with the ryzen 9 4900hs and rtx 2060 and have problems with it constantly giving me bsod. I'm leaning more towards getting the razer instead.
i wonder how long time razer battery inflates its kinda what they known for lack of quality control
Something not mentioned in the video is the keyboard layouts on non-US models. For some reason non-US models of the the G14 still come with a US-style ANSI keyboard just with region specific labelling. The non-US models of the Blade on the other hand come with regular ISO keyboards. This borderline design flaw by ASUS with the non-US G14s is important to note as it will be a deal breaker for many non-US buyers.
Its a back and forth on each laptop with pros and cons.
To weigh the balance of which laptop has the advantage overall.
It really says a lot about Razer when they charge mountains for a 14" laptop and they refuse to put 32Gb ram in it.
Also, I am having my first support issue with my 2021 15" advanced blade, it was started 2 weeks ago, and they are still "getting back to me and escalating". Zero help so far, ZERO.
I've never ever experienced anything this bad, and it means I will NEVER buy a Razer product again. Ever.
Intel must be paying Razer…
I actually can not believe the reply I got after waiting three weeks, it is like I am in the twilight zone. They ignored ALL my detailed reporting, were concerned why I cared that my processor got locked when I should not be undervolting anyway, even after I told them that I was under CLOCKING because Razer do not allow fan control in the high performance mode and the computer was hitting 100 degrees with barely any fan speed increase and I wanted to avoid that, and I asked WHY do they allow fan control in the LOW performance mode, and that every reviewer has pointed that out for YEARS now.. They completely ignored every word I said, even after I explained I only needed to lower the multiplier so I could use the high performance mode without hitting throttle point all the time, cause the low performance mode where you CAN adjust the fans never gets hot anyway even with auto fan! (Jarrod has discovered the exact same thing as have a ton of reviewers. IDIOTS). THEY are IDIOTS.
And they ignored when I said I said I lost access to multipliers and that lowering multipliers was GOOD for it as it lowered heat without any stability risks, and yep, they just told me to:
RESET THE COMPUTER.
Razer support ladies and gentlemen!
I did that first thing three weeks ago and it didn't fix it.
They ignored my blue screens, error beeps, losing the discrete GFX completely on and off.. THREE WEEKS to just say "reset the computer pressing F9 when you start".
I have not responded kindly this time and said if they don't have technicians who understand voltages/temps/multipliers etc that I was happy to teach them but they need to understand they are dealing with an experienced computer user.
NEVER EVER BUY A RAZER AS LONG AS YOU LIVE. MAKE IT YOUR LIFE'S MISSION TO NEVER SEND A CENT TO THIS DISGRACEFUL JOKE OF A COMPANY.
And Jarrod? You give these assholes a pass and always give Alienware a hard time, well Alienware's support and even their software is on another stratosphere of quality compared to these razer losers. I honestly hope you get a faulty unity one day of Razers so you can simply experience what I have, seriously, and the zero knowledge, robotic script reading idiots I have had to deal with, where you will already know more than they ever will.
@@teddym2808 Dell/Alienware support hasn’t been good since 2016 or so. It’s a bunch of Indian people and fixing a Dell XPS that had serious sleep/wake issues took 4 YEARS.
So they told me I shouldn't really undervolt and that it can cause instability, and to do a computer reset. That was it. This is my reply, I just copoed and pasted for anyone who is interested in this ridiculous saga (I guess I will hear back from them in another few weeks):
Have you guys actually read what I wrote, seriously?
Almost 3 weeks of waiting and I clearly said I do not undervolt or overclock the computer. I would NEVER dream of overclocking such a thermally challenged machine.
All I do is set the clock multipliers lower, i.e. underCLOCK so the computer doesn't generate so much heat. What I do is GOOD for it. This has NOTHING to do with voltage or undervolting, nada. By losing the ability to do that, the computer is running at factory Razer specs which is far too hot. Because Razer will not let me set the fans to full speed on performance mode, I am keeping the computer in balanced mode which drops as low as 2.4ghz, which is outrageous for a 4 thousand dollar laptop. If I could only set the fans on maximum in the high performance mode....
The default multipliers of an 11800H are
1 core activity at 46x for 4.6ghz clock speed
2 core activity at 46x for 4.6ghz clock speed
3 cores activity at 45x for 4.5ghz clock speed
4 cores activity at 45x for 4.5ghz clock speed
5 cores activity at 45x for 4.5ghz clock speed
6 cores activity at 44x for 4.4ghz clock speed
7 cores activity at 43x for 4.3ghz clock speed
8 cores activity at 42x for 4.2ghz clock speed - this is the max turbo speed if all 8 cores are being used.
All I did was set all those multipliers to 38x, so the computer is running at 3.8ghz maximum, so I am losing performance but it's a perfect trade off.
This avoids thermal throttle and excessive heat. In a AAA game where the graphics are heavily loaded as well, I would set the CPU to a 35 multiplier for 3.5ghz
The bus clock is 100mhz on these processors, which is what the multiplier above is calculated with, which is why 35x100 = 3500 mhz, for example.
Any game can be played at 3.5ghz.. you do not need 4.2ghz to play any current AAA game. Therefore the computer does not need to run so hot.
This kept temperatures in check because razer has terrible temperature issues as addressed again below.
Sorry but I feel I have to explain it to YOU guys! I am very experienced with computers.. My entire income was sourced from repairing and building them from 1998-2014.
Secondly, my question about fan control has been completely ignored, as if I never even wrote it. Is this why you ignore all the long time, combined multi million follower reviewers that have been complaining about the same thing? You just don't want to listen to ANYONE and what they have been saying and asking you to implement over the last few YEARS?
I was warned and BEGGED not to buy a Razer but I didn't listen and bought it anyway, and never again in my LIFETIME. Just so you know you have lost a customer for life, and I have already purchased an MSI GE67 which arrived yesterday with 12800HX/32GB Ram/3070ti/2TB SSD
A computer that crushes the one I have from Razer, at the same price.
I mean I have been so nice but I don't know how to be nice anymore cause you are ignoring what I say and a simple support query is taking weeks. I am terrified to think what would happen if the entire computer failed!
For one, I have already reset it and it didn't fix it. So that idea is out the window. I know how to do a computer reset.
This is *likely* a bios issue and again you aren't listening.
Your utility will not let me reinstall the latest bios cause it is already up to date, so I need a way to force install the very latest bios again to overwrite what is there, and this will probably fix everything. This is what I have been asking for. Furthermore, if it IS a Razer Synapse update that broke it, even with a successful reset it will just break it again when it auto updates. If there has been some microcode forced into my processor to lock it, I need to know why and how to avoid it a second time.
When I bought the computer this processer was LOCKED. I immediately, within hours, told the store I was returning it as it ran too hot and the fan control was backwards, allowing me to manually set the fans at maximum in balanced mode which never gets hot ANYWAY, but I can't set them to maximum speed in high performance mode and they are slow to ramp up and allow the processor to hit 100 degrees before the power limit kicks in and lowers performance under load to around 3.4 or 3.5ghz. This is from Razer's own built in power limit design.
The system was not designed to be able to effectively cool 4.2ghz on all cores which is why Razer has a power limit set in after a few seconds. By lowering the multiplier I was effectively just setting the CPU at speeds that were within the chassis' thermal capabilities, at all times, without boosting over 4ghz and heating up.
If I was allowed to set the fans to maximum speed manually, in boost mode, the processor would never hit the 100 degrees it does now, and I never would have needed to lower the maximum multiplier to begin with, hence MHZ speed, of the processor. Reviewers and customers have been trying to tell Razer this and you just won't listen, and now I know why. You don't listen to customers and reviewers with experience telling you when they have an issue, and go off on another tangent! This is from my own experience the past few weeks!
Anyway, within 24 hours razer supplied a bios to the store that unlocked the CPU and it has worked fine for 6 months ever since, until 3 weeks ago. It's funny when a sale is at stake just how quickly the store was able to get support form you guys!
It was because of that bios that I decided to keep the computer, as I could now run it in boost mode maintaining a reasonable speed of 3.5 to 3.8ghz, without the computer overheating and hitting 100 degrees. The most it would now hit is about 91.
When I lost the ability to lower the multipliers, in boost mode it is now running outrageously hot again since the computer is trying to hit 4.2ghz on all cores and the fan is so slow to ramp up, and since I can't pre set the fan to maximum like I can in balanced mode, I am now forced to use the Razer factory balanced mode if I don't want crazy temperatures.. However this is lowering performance drastically from where it was just 3 weeks ago. In balanced mode I get 2.4 or 2.5ghz under load now vs 3.5 to 3.8 I had when the processor was unlocked, by simply lowering the multipliers to a point where the processor didn't throttle. I do not KNOW how to explain it any clearer to you!
Furthermore I have told you and the forum admin that when this problem happened, my discrete 3070 graphics card stopped working, the computer was making a loud error beep on boot, and I kept getting blue screens. I haven't received a single word back on that!
After I loaded "default optimised bios settings" in the bios, it fixed THAT issue (so it seems for a few days now) and the discrete graphics now work again but the processor is locked.
So now let me get this right.. you took 3 weeks to simply tell me to "reset the computer", am I reading this correctly, or am I going insane?
I need to know, do you have any experienced technicians there who understand the system or do I need to explain it all to you? Power limits, voltages, multipliers etc? Cause I will if I have to!
So, no, an operating system reset doesn't fix it.
Shall we start an RMA and within the next year, hopefully I will get a fix or replacement? Cause without trying to reinstall the latest bios there is nothing else I can do from this end, unless Razer releases a Synapse/bios update from your end which fixes it.
Sincerely, but very frustrated and losing my patience,
Ted
@@cameronbosch1213 bullshit. I have first hand experience that "those Indian people" that you were just so racist about had fantastic support. The only reason I don't believe you is because you went straight to racism, which is telling me that's what your issue is really about, that they outsource support (like everyone in existence in 2022).
Plus. I have never dealt with finer support in my life, and for on site service, it is your local authorised repairer. Not someone overseas.
Nope, don't believe you, sorry.
You can get some automotive touch up paint and it will look much better. Even black ink
Hey Jarrod! When are you going to compare the 2022 Asus TUF F15 to its older self?
We can't buy the grey version in Canada with the better screen (stuck with a lower grade 1920 x 1200), and you can't get the grey in the US and are stuck with white. Certainly not going to blend in, in an office enviroment. So Asus lost a sale and I bought the RB 14". So far no issues and I'm quite happy with it. I don't understand why Asus do these silly spec changes based upon region.
I want that razer blade so bad ima get it someday soon hopefully 🙏
I wish the black G14 was available in North America and that charging could be done with either USB-C port.
Thank you for the amazing video, Jarrod. Best comparison once again.
Is there any update regarding when the G14 will be available in Australia for purchase.
BTW excellent video!
3:47 didnt know dci-p3 and segb were so similar
When the starting price of the Razer (with a 3060) is higher than the _maximum_ spec of the G14, I have to wonder who's buying them outside of holiday sales and Cyber Monday?! 😮
Would you mind recommending a laptop that can handle both medium-level gaming and professional productivity tasks
Let's see if Razers puts 32 GB option and a brighter 16:10 screen in the 2023 model...
The G14 looks pretty good, though I would probably get any external mic.
That mic was brutal lmao
hey Jarrod, can you review the legion 5 pro cuz as soon as I see the review buyin it
ofc if it doesn't have a lot of negatives
Not enough to go to Razer. G14 2022 FTW almost enticing me to get it and replace my 2021 model. However it is missing OLED hehe once OLED is avail and just a little more upgrades and it would be irresistible.
Was waiting for this comparison! So hypothetically...at what price would you pick the Razer over the G14? $2800? $2500? $2000? Curious what the threshold is. Thanks!
Under 2k
Hi Jarrod. lets do review Alienware M15 R7 . i hear this notebook is better than before. i want to know your opinion about this one
Are you planing in review the rog strix scar g17 SE? I really want to see that video 😁👍
Friday.
@@JarrodsTech cool!!! thanks 😄
Well zephyrus series no matter the size are #1! Unfortunately Asus did not release a s17 2022 model and I had to buy razer blade 17 🤔
Should do another video like this in the 17 inch maybe with the aero 17
Hey! man, Will you make a video on Lenovo legion 5i 2022 model ??
I felt asus flow x13 should have been included in the performance graphs.
My Asus ROG Flow x13 is amazing. Too bad the SSD is 2230…
Would've loved to see alienware x14 compared to these two
Its not worth it, watch his full review on it and other reviewers to know why
@@kobbycrentsil2859 Not sure if I am missing something but he does not yet have a full review on it. If based on other reviewers' feedbacks (which aren't the most detailed), it seems like x14 is in the middle on most categories listed in this video, which probably makes it deserving to be compared with these two.
@@leonard3100 I have an X14, and I tried it against the G14. For my personal use, it wasn't particularly close. At first glance, the G14 seems much better, and I thought so, too, since it has a nicer screen and is able to run silently for long periods of time with pretty good battery life in casual use. When pushed, however, both of them are just as loud and hot, but I could tell that the X14 has a much stronger CPU than the G14. I personally value CPU over GPU performance, since you can always turn down graphical settings or resolution (or use DLSS) to paper over GPU weaknesses (do you NEED ultra settings?), but you can't make up for the CPU not keeping up. On RTS titles, which are my favorite, the X14 outperformed the G14 by a lot. Also, another thing is that if you have a backpack that can hold the X14 (I got an Alienware backpack), the X14 has a
lightweight USB-C brick that can charge lots of different devices, and the G14 has a chonker of a brick, though it can run on USB-C power at somewhat diminished capacity. Also, the X14 has fully functioning Thunderbolt. For someone like me that also uses MacBooks, that means, one cable docking. Of course, here I must mention that the G14, though it doesn't officially support Thunderbolt, worked fine with my TB4 dock, too. Anyway, as usual, you can't just look at reviews and decide that one computer's good and another is trash. I think the G14 is a better general purpose laptop, but if you're going to be using it close to max performance all the time and CPU performance is more important than GPU performance, then the X14 is much better.
@@kobbycrentsil2859 They’re just saying it’s not worth it because of the GPU wattage of the x14. I had the 2022 g14 and Rb 14 (2022 rtx 3060), and am currently using the x14 due to my work requirements. I returned the g14 because of the build quality and, for me, it is focused on providing ‘quality gaming experience’. Whereas, the x14 is for peeps like me who needs a strong cpu + atleast 20 gbs of ram. The rb14 is just total shit compared to the g14 and x14. Gave the rb14 to my brother and he likes it so much. To each their own, maybe.
Can you do a comparison video between G15 and M16
Very nice video Jarrod! Now i own a Zephyrus G14 2021 with RTX 3060 and Ryzen 5800HS, should i consider to upgrade on the newer model or not? I would buy the one with 6800hs and RX6700s.
I use this laptop for video editing and sometimes for gaming.
I think it's not worth it, it's better to wait for the 2023 model
@@vladimirokhrimchuk Maybe yes, i hope 2023 models will have RTX cards
Yeah, agree
@@MartinPCBrokes probably more likely to feature amd since their 7000 gpus are rumored to be good
Waiting for this
Do the g15 as well
I just want a 14 inch light gaming laptop under $1000 with good display and ports
2020/2021 G14s were priced like that on sale. Otherwise you need to save a another $500 and add it to the budget.
@@saunupe1911 I was thinking of but the vivobook pro 14 2021 with rtx 3050
When will the G14 be available in Australia?
you're not missing much unless you need a space heater
Not too related to the video.
I'm not really an avid gamer, but if I were to buy a laptop for 3d modelling & rendering purposes only, should I only care about the RAM, Processor, & GPU?
Would the FPS, Mux Switch, Bios, & others still matter?
Can I ignore the FHD screen & just buy a separate monitor?
Jarrods the only youtuber I trust when it comes to laptops & I hope he can give some insights on what matters on gaming vs productivity.
RAM is the top priority and CPU comes second.
I feel like your usually reviewing higher end models of these already higher end machines doesn't correspond to what most people will be looking for.
Most people want about the ~3060/i7/FHD sort of tier of gaming laptop, rather than 3080/i9/1440 or 4k sort of tier, I think it's more important to review what most people would go for rather than those with practically infinite budget
I've mentioned this in a few videos over the last couple of weeks. I request lower end options and brands send me their best. The only 3060 I've had this year I bought myself. I am currently testing the ideapad gaming 3 though.
Also can you make a G14 vs G15 comparison like this
The scratch on the lid is unfortunate for sure, and not blaming you, as it can happen to anyone, but just wanted to share my experience with Razer. I had a Blade Stealth 13 for about 3-4 years and after all that time, it still looked like new with no scratches anywhere. I don't think they're as easily scratched as this video might make it sound, it was just bad luck:( Not using the G14 (but a 2020 model), and I'm happy with it overall. Not sure if I need the latest model, but maybe if I come across a right deal.
Ya I'm guessing something that was also metal fell on it because most wood or plastic probably wouldn't do that.
Another important factor to consider is how monumentally bad Razer’s customer support is. I love the look and feel of their computers, but under no circumstances should you ever purchase one directly from their website. A quick Google search will quickly reveal just how bad the whole process is. By all means, get one through a big box store, but from my experience I will never give my money to a brand that treats their customers so poorly.
0:54 scared the shit out of me
I just want a reboot version of the ROG zephyrus s17 3080 i9 model I missed out on that and it's been out of stock since release
Hi Jarrod. Been stumped what to buy. Zephyrus g14 2022 rx6800s or legion 5 3070ti? I work from home and anywhere as long as theres wifi. Can you help me to decide?
What About Acer's Predator helios 300 2022...??
Eagerly waiting for it...
software apps will suck as usual - that is standard for Acer
@@hoven-lh8wqyeah😦
even the RX 6700S lower priced version is still insane and still wins the same pros when paired up against the blade 14, because you end up with the same insane cpu. If youre looking for a budget laptop that could do anything the best laptops could do and even more, id go for the G14 (2022) RX6700S with a 32 gb ram. it is an actual B E A S T for such a cheap price of 1.1K USD
9:08 you could do that on Linux though. I bet there's a software to do it on windows too.
I am between G14 and G15 maxed out.
Mostly for music production and secondarily for gaming.
I heard that Radeon is better for audio than Nvidia (latency spikes).
Would appreciate any input fellow friends.
If you're serious about music production, you would probably want a computer that makes no fan noise, can be used live without worrying about battery use, has amazing CPU performance, has great audio drivers, doesn't drain battery or overheat in your backpack, etc. You might not want to hear this, but that would be a MacBook. If not, look for an Intel. Currently, Intel greatly outperforms AMD in CPU workloads. My short time with the G14 (which I returned) was full of blue screens for doing relatively simple things like switching fan profiles, was noticeably less CPU-capable than Intel laptops, and I definitely wouldn't want to use it for music. In any case, why does nVidia even matter for serious audio work? Your DAW would run on integrated graphics, would never touch discrete graphics. I'd go with an Intel over AMD. Maybe something like an XPS 9520. I have a MacBook Pro 14" and Alienware X14, but I wouldn't recommend the X14 for primarily audio work because of fan noise. It's a really good choice, however, if you find a nicely priced one on the Outlet Store. The 3060 is great, but honestly, the 3050 and 3050 Ti models are fine for productivity work and some gaming on the side.
Possibility 32gb or only&exclusively 16gb?..
the answer is obvious to me
You buy your laptops based on RAM? Interesting.
Hey Jarrod, What are your thoughts on getting the zephyrus g14 vs the zephyrus g15 for this years model?
G15 gives you better performance, G14 is lighter and more portable. That simple.
I think G15 is also a bit cheaper.
I went with the G14 between those two, but it depends on what you're looking for. The G15 is more powerful, but also less portable. For me the G14 had good enough performance and portability was a necessity considering I also take it with me to work.
Shows how spoiled we’ve when we can’t do I g15 for travel. 10 years ago people were traveling(not ideal) with 8-10lb laptops. A 3.5 and 4.5 difference isn’t much.
The scratch hurts me even from behind the monitor -.-
Can you review the ThinkBook 13S Gen 4 AMD please
14:26 And now it can use FSR in two of the three games. 😉
Where tf do I get eclipse gray in the us😭
Me too 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
1400 for the g14 on sale at best buy vs 2200 on sale for razer 14 no contest. only wish grey color g14 was available in US
Is this thIs G 14 model in the video the new 2022"AMD Advantage" model? What's the exact model number?