Creator should definitely target M16 for it's screen and CPU while the G15 is a solid all rounder. In the end it's more about what you need. These two machines are only different in the heart but deliver almost similar performance. You're not wrong getting both of them.
My issue was I bought last years G15 and now this years has a integrated web cam. Why Asus in 2021 after a global pandemic did you think a laptop wouldn't need a Webcam?
@@rehmanarshad1848 windows requires all new laptops shipped to have webcams for windows hello. so it's less "asus thought about it late" and more "asus got strong armed and was forced to include one" now that they have one i'm sure next year it will be upgraded nicely.
@Joel Conolly Sure this works between the M16 and G15, but personally I'm considering between the M16 and the Flow X16, where the Flow X16 has a nicer screen, so I'm super confused between having better performance in Adobe suite as opposed to having slightly better battery life, and a stylus capable screen
Literally the *ONLY* thing that stopped me from getting the G15 was the low brightness. I often study outside and the ~350 nits on the G15's panel automatically disqualified it
Was in the market last year for a new device and ended up buying the M16 because of the webcam. Loved the G15 as it was almost all i needed and the great reviews… if the G15 last year had the webcam, would’ve been sweet. Enjoying this video on my 2021 M16, thanks Jarrod, great video.
Currently bough this m16 with the same specs few months ago... cant even complain how fast it is. Already compared it to my friends m1 max and it crushes the macbook in creator applications. Also noticed few drops in temps because of their armoury crate updates. What a beast of a machine for something that doesn't screen "Im a fcking gaming laptop" One gripe I have for this though is the rubbery keyboard deck. Based on experience, those materials doesnt age well and will end up tearing if you don't take care of it properly.
After watching around 300 laptop reviews and comparisons (mainly on this channel), I ended up doing a thin SFF desktop build for half the price (homemade case, flex ATX PSU, full size GPU) that fits easily in my backpack. Paralysis by analysis!
@@nameless_stranger that's what I'm wondering as well. Maybe he has a monitor and peripherals in the office and at home. That way he can simply connect his PC and be done with it. That's how it is for me, but I'm carrying a laptop. While some of my colleagues just got a Mac mini and are carrying it around.
@@waldamy I agree that this would be a better if option if your work is only done at selected places. I work anywhere with a plug and wifi/mobile data, its a laptop for me
For audio production which one would you recommend? Latencymon specs seems good for both. I tend to M16, as I don't play any games and battery life also isn't that important as I mostly would use it plugged in. I'd be most interested in better performance and better cooling (less fan noise). Brighter screen is nice to have and a bit larger screen is also welcome. Also, let me emphasize how grateful I am for your latencymon test in every video! 🙏🙏🙏
Intel > AMD for audio, generally, because 1) more CPU performance = always better, 2) Thunderbolt support gives you more options for professional-level interfaces, and 3) Intel chipsets usually have fewer bugs for audio. Obviously, though, Apple >>>>>> either if you actually care about fan noise, since even Apple laptops with fans are completely silent during audio production.
What a crazy world we now live in where the Intel CPU system has better synthetic/non-gaming performance but the AMD system out performs it in gaming performance.
Here its just that the ryzen system can put more power into the GPU than the 12th gen intel. Laptops are pretty limited to the power budget but it would be nice to see them lower the cpu power in the intel system in some "gaming" mode
Picked up the 2022 asus M16 the other day because it was on sale at best buy for like $1100 from like $1650. Would've got the G15 with the slightly better display resolution for the same price but out of stock quickly. I must say I do like the M16. The screen size and aspect ratio is great, very bright, and the colors are pretty good. Better than my old 2020 G14. I will say I wish it was a QHD display, and the disappointment is the website claims a 1600p display, but it's really only 1200p. Unless there's a secret way to set it to 1600 that I don't know about bc the max setting is 1200. No dedicated camera cover/off button, and the camera is absolutely terrible (only like 0.9mp for photos, but 720p video) but I don't use pc cams since I have a phone. It's a very nice laptop, thin for It's size, enough ports, great display (for FHD), and performs very well. In regards to wifi, surprised it automatically connect to my hotspot within seconds of turning it on. I don't recommend gaming in battery mode which drops frame and you only have access to turbo mode when plugged in. Still no function key, and speakers sound great just need more bass. As for the rear fans blasting the screen.....it doesn't matter. I had the G14 for over 2 years with heavy gaming and didn't affect screen at all. It's a fantastic gaming laptop and the size/thinness is great. Significantly brighter than my old G14
We're only about 5 months away from CES, I'm hoping/expecting next year's g15 gets the g14 treatment from this year: vapor chamber, zen 4, next gen GPU's, 16:10 screen. I think that'll be the one to get, even if it increases in price slightly. I was excited about lenovo, but Asus actually releases laptops on time, their pricing is straightforward and armory crate is the best laptop control software IMO.
Agree with your expectations but I think the 16:9 is here to stay. The way that ASUS is currently positioning their product is this: A laptop for on-the-go work but also can game well? G14 (AMD CPU + AMD GPU). A thin and light laptop that is laser focused on gaming? G15 (which explains why they also include a 240Hz option) (AMD CPU + NVIDIA GPU). A laptop for gaming and content creation? M16 (Intel CPU + NVIDIA GPU). The fact is that 16:9 resolution is still superior for gaming, and those looking for a 16:10 screen will pushed toward the more expensive M16.
G15 will never be 16:10, only if they change its name to G16. What makes the M16 16 inches is the 16:10 aspect. It’s just a G15 with taller screen, same width
You can thank Asus poor power management for your low CB23 score on battery. G14 and G15 models with 6X00HS processors can have power management issues. My G14 sometimes locks the CPU power to 35W and total power to 80w no matter what mode I’m running, only a full reboot can fix it. I can reproduce it 100% if I plug and unplug USBC power.
I bought both laptops, because I wanted to decide by myself which I will keeep and which Ill return and I didnt want to rely on youtube reviewers experience only because they often dont mention important things. G15 (AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, RTX 3070 Ti, 16 GB RAM, 240Hz, 2560x1440) vs M16 (i7-12700H, RTX 3060, 16 GB RAM, 165Hz, 1920x1200). So there is my experience: 1) Both laptops have great speakers for its class and suitable for watching movies or videos on youtube, etc. But I must say unfortunatelly that speakers are not the same. G15 speakers have better base and are little bit more pleasent to listen. G15 speakers are the first laptop speakers where I didnt have the need to compare them with my Macbook 13 pro, which means they are very similar, or at least G15 speakers are not worse I would say. M16 speakers are little bit bellow my Macbook, but still if you dont compare them I think you will be satisfied with them. 2) Keyboard backlight on M16 is stronger than on G15 (its lowest level is as strong as G15 highest level of backlight). I prefer G15 backlight, especially in dark room. 3) Diplay on M16 is very bright, its lowest point could be even lower (especially in dark room). Here again I prefer G15 which is not that bright. In my case G15 has better resolution, but I personally think Full HD on M16 is enough. 4) M16 is quieter on performance mode when you are doing basic stuff like web browsing, The fans are almost idle or at least dont disturb me. On G15 I can get the same result but only through manual mode fan control 5) Integrated graphics is better on G15, some old games like Diablo II and Command and Conquer Generals were much smoother there (in comparison with Iris Xe on M16). But since both laptops have mux switch, this is not an issue anymore. You can switch on only discrete graphics and these games run smooth on both machines... If you have some other questions?
Depends. I got the m16 2022 and it stayed on 150-170fps, returned it and got the Legion 5 pro AMD 2022 and it goes 240-260fps. The settings were barely changed. The m16 has better colors though around 5% better, but that's not noticeable unless your eyes are really sensitive, or you're an artist's.
@@tonyn5026 yup. Though the Legion 5 pro got lighter and more compact compared to last year's, the g15 and m16 is still more portable. But right now the Legions are cheaper than the m16 and g15. Especially the Legion 7 Slim, which is smaller in size than both but has lower power(the 3060 is 100w) The regular Legion 7s though, they are only 5mm-ish bigger in depth but portability is portability. What I don't like is the full AMD on the Legion 7 2022, wish they could have made an AMD and RTX combination.
Im stuck between multiple models in this performance category. Im a college student going into computer engineering and will need good performance in the adobe suite and potentially CAD design. Im also heavy chrome user with 20ish tabs on a moderate day while doing productivity work, which also means I really want a 16" screen. Problem is, battery life is really important to me and a large screen and beefy specs dont work well with that. Ive been trying to find a machine that will last as close to a full day as possible when doing web browsing productivity work, and easily drill through more advanced works when I need it. (At the cost of battery life, of course). Basically, I want an M16 with an AMD processor or a macbook that can run Windows. Right now Im eyeing the Asus flow x16, with the two main drawbacks being a meh hinge at best and what I think is an utterly stupid design choice if a micro sd card slot. (Why are so many manufacturers turning to that? Ive seen so many content-creation oriented devices implimenting that and I just dont understand why. Ive exclusively used full sized sd cards when shooting so I just get mad when I see a $2000+ laptop with 100% P3 coverage but no full sized card slot.) There is plenty of room on all Asus' latest laptops (M15, M16, Duo 16, Flow x16) for a full sized slot and the fact it isnt there baffles and aggravates me because I need a dongle for a laptop that has all the other ports I want. Once reviews for the x16 come out Im inclined to think that'll be my pick. Battery life seems good and it has a great screen and all the power I need. But that eGPU port takes up space Id rather have for more USB ports or something because at least Id use it then.
buy a cheap one to offset the constant layoffs in the tech industry. Ask me how I know. A friend of mine who also works at a "top" tech company fully paid for his 2 kids to go to college. With one exception. Nothing in the tech field. These companies hire fresh college students for big salaries, but there is little job security and you can easily be replaced by an H1B for half the cost. They might do half the work, but they can hire multiple for an American salary. Its a rough field to be in. Good luck! Oh and its rough applying too, hiring managers get hundreds or thousands of applicants online and might spend 10 seconds on your resume, skipping everything and just filtering keywords. Really makes you feel like a cog rather than a person. Well that was a rant I wasn't expecting to type even 1 minute ago..... 😁
Why is intel still getting that premium treatment from laptop manufacturers? I'd love to have the 16 by 10 screen and the battery life of an amd machine... Since the dimensions are the same, is it possible to swap the 16 : 10 screen and its bezel over to the G15?
Intel historically has had a much larger MDF (marketing development fund) and pays out more money to these manufactures to use intel processors in their flagship models. I am sure AMD has increased their own MDF efforts in the last couple years as AMD literally did not exist in the premium laptop space until a few years ago, but intel is such a large percentage of the mobility market that they have more incentive to keep that money flowing. Also, intel has always created a reference platform (basically a laptop that other vendors can use as stock or modify and sell under their own brand) which allows the vendors of these laptops to basically cut a huge amount of R&D costs of designing their own laptops and pass it off to intel. Again I am sure AMD is now doing this, but intel has been doing this for over a decade and has the systems in place, they have the contacts in these companies that know who at intel to call, and really has created these turn key intel laptop solutions that let companies slap their brand on a laptop intel designed without paying much at all in R and D costs.
I was waiting for this video for a long time but I had to get a laptop last week so went with M16. I was honestly hesitant to go with Intel based machine because these processors run hot and battery life for a laptop is quite important. But I REALLY wanted a 16:10 display coz I'm a programmer. Appart from Battery life, I love everything about M16. I wish I could underclock CPU when unplugged but rest everything has been great especially the Display!
If i'm not mistaken, the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro Gen 7 with AMD has been released for several weeks now. Are you chances planning to review it in the near future?
Hey Jarrod, Regarding the issue with the G15 5520 from Dell, I upgraded to Windows 11 and I was getting constant blue screens randomly, so I just formatted it and went to Windows 10 again, that's all
Simple, if you create content or need a higher brightness screen then go for the M16. If you're just looking for a good all round gaming device then go for the G15. I'm curious though why there is such a difference between the battery life of the G14 and G15.
Even as a gamer u should get the m16. 3 fps in 1440p isnt a dealbreaker. and with a better cpu you can get higher fps in esport games and actually use the devices max rfresh rate in games. So m16 is definitely the better laptop all round
It’s not my friend trust me don’t listen to them…I am from India and I have an Asus ROG Strix Scar 15(Ryzen 9 5900HX) RTX 3080(16GB), WQHD 165 Hertz, 32GB Ram and 2TB SSD and I got it for 2,90,000Rs approximately 3700 Dollars in September 2021 and I recently saw Asus ROG Strix G15 With RTX 3070 level GPU, Same R9 5900HX CPU, 16GB ram ,1 TB SSD, Same WQHD 165 Hertz Display for 1,50,000 Rs and My Laptop should not have cost me more than (taking the cost of double the ram and double the storage, better mechanical keyboard, GPU) into consideration 2,20,000 Rs at Max means I paid extra of roughly 70000Rs means 900 Dollars and the gains are absolutely not worth the money you will NEVER need more than 8GB VRAM even if you are playing at MAX graphics trust me and I am talking about any heavy graphic intensive game does not cross beyond 4 or 5GB so it’s a total waste don’t make the same mistake I did any Laptop even if it’s a high end one should not cost you more than 2 lakh Rs at MAXIMUM trust me and 3070 is the most you will need going beyond it is just paying more money for absolutely nothing
I bought it in Canada off Amazon, and was recieved a white-only backlit keyboard. Nevertheless, I still enjoy the laptop, especially with the mind blowing screen, amazing cpu and RTX 3060 ✨
Could you please recommend the best gaming laptop under £1000. I feel like buying the MSI Katana GF66 i7-12700h rtx3050ti but I'm not sure if I should get it. You should earned a sub! 😃
My Ryzen 9 5900HS, RTX 3070 and 40gb of ram G15 will be lasting me for years to come. I also have a Ryzen 9 5900X, RTX 3080 and 32gb of 3600 speed ram as my home PC. So, I'm set on PCs for at most 5 years. lol
Any recommendations on what RAM to buy for the M16? I just bought mine, got the open box from Best Buy, basically new, and I wanna use the saved money for an additional 32 + the 16 onboard. I'll probably look into an extra M.2 soon as well. Great review btw, thanks!
Great comparisons... Im in the market for a new gaming laptop. As im typing on my 2019 Asus ROG MGU502. Battery is no longer holding charge and I frequently get start up issues with lots of games stutter. Im over this pc and will skip on Asus for sure.
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That soufttouch rubberized finish on the M16 kinda worries me. Anybody have info on how it will hold up?
Did you find that the G15 keyboard gets insanely hot? I just bought one and I've found my fingers burning on the central keys. I measured 50c on the R key for example. Also, it won't go to sleep, whatever power settings I choose. :(
I had that issue and after a clean installation of Windows things seem to have settled down for good. As for thermals I recommend undervolting both the CPU and GPU. My internal temperatures dropped by 10-15°C.
Jarrod would you be able to to a review of the M16 vs the Apple MacBook Pro 16 to see the performance comparisons between the 2? Would be interesting! Thank you
How do you feel about getting an m16 with the soldered 8gb ram and and additional 32gb stick. Do you think performance would take a hit due to the big difference in sticks?
I currently am using last years M16 model (11800h 3050ti) and the screen is worth the slightly worse GPU (I could've gotten a 3060 laptop for the price I paid but I got it on a good deal) as the color accuracy and nearly 500 nits brightness helps me more than a better GPU but half the brightness and way worse color screen.
i know you usually cover gaming laptops but would you mind checking out lenovo 14w gen2? laptop seems nice but there is 0 coverage online. its not very powerful, im getting it only to interface my server but still
I just looked that up. Its fine for what it is, but the standout concerns would be 4gb of memory, and the screen resolution and brightness. Those specs are low for any use case I think. Did you buy it?
Is it possible to make a Zephyrus G16, By swapping the lid on the G15 with that from a M16 as both of seems pretty identical physically except for the lcd panel. Both of them uses identical screen connectors (40 pin eDP ) and same kind of web cam so, possibly the same usb 2.0 internal connector
Asus is not honoring warranties. has not You have given an update of the AGESA libraries for strix advantage edition support does nothing they just ignore the problem. If Asus is not responsible then we should stop purchasing their products.
Hey man can anyone help me out new to this I have the m16 i7 3060 version still new in the box I’m debating on returning it for a GP66 with the 3070 or a legion 5 pro 3070 amd any thoughts ?
i got g15 r9 6900hs 3070ti recently, it is really a good laptop but i dont recomind to buy it because the cooling issue is shiit, the hot air go to the monitor if u are planning to play 3aaa game , dont buy g15 go to build a pc instead, but if u just want to use it for college like photoshop stuff and some smaller size game like cs league valorant u can go for it if u are planning to play 3aaa games dont because i tried , apex legend ,cyberpunk gta , these game will make the laptop over heat, u can cook an egg on it no joke.(hot air go to the monitor is the main problem G15)
Hows the heat when sitting laptop on lap? Cause that would be main situation id be using it in... also hows the keyboard? Iv heard some say they have spots that are unresponsive / dont register their touches very often... and that concerns me n idk if its a few models thing or if it happens to many others
@@JarrodsTech Yes I have seen that video but I find a deal for " AORUS 15 Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i7 12700H, GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 15.6 Inch 165Hz QHD IPS Display (AORUS 15 XE4-73DEB14SH) " snd I really want to know is it a good 15 inch laptop or not Thank you
After having to return seven, yes..seven, different G14, G15, and M16 laptops to Best Buy over the last year and a half because of ASUS quality control issues, I don't think I'll ever be able to recommend them to anyone.
@@cheekypasta55 Yup. 5 of them for screen issues, 1 for keyboard, touchpad, & speaker issues, and 1 for a damaged hinge that was cracking. They were all 2021 and 2022 models.
why does the m16 have to have a 16:10, i guess if i had to choose one of these it would be the g15 as games that dont support that aspect ratio will be screwed up. unfortunate
I don't know if it's just me, but the graphics performance of the M16 is much lower than in the early days of its release At the beginning of its release, 3070ti scored more than 27,000 points The 3080 ti is over 29000 points but is now down to 27000-28000 points The temperature is not high either
bro my Asus G15 2022 with Ryzen 7 6800HS with RTX barely touches 210 min and the G15 showing has the same battery how you get more battery life brother tell meeeee
I wondering about performance comparisson between top of chart laptops like GT77, GE76, G733 etc with top specs against PC with same parts, and pricing comparisson too. Very interesting topic as for me
Hi there, I have a 2020 Asus Rog Strix G15 with an RTX 2060 (G512LV). This version came without a lightbar at the button but there are sockets on the board for them. I want a button case with the light bar but can't find one. Who has a connection please let me know.
Hey jarrod srry to bother you man, but I found this two and I dont know which is the better option: 1. Msi alpha ryzen 7 5800h rx6600m 2.lenovo ideapadgaming 3 ryzen 7 5800h rtx 3060 Both 16 ram and 512ssd Same price.
hi jarrod can i ask you for advice? I'm looking for a notebook for content creation and gaming with a maximum budget of 1500euro. I found two interesting notebooks, the 1st at 1399euro and the 2nd at 1499euro, can one of these two work well or can I find better? Lenovo Legion 5 (2021) Full HD 15.6'' IPS 165Hz 300Nits sRGB 100% Dolby Vision, Free-Sync, G-Sync, DC dimmer AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (8C/16T 3.2/4.4 GHz) 512GB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe RAM 16GB (2X8 DDR4 3200) RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6(Bost Clock 1560MHz, TGP 130W) WIFI 6 WINDOWS 11 HOME Asus Rog Strix G15 (2022) G513RM-HQ064W QHD (2560 X 1440) 16:9 15.6" IPS, DCI-P3 100% TIME RESPOND 3MS, Adaptive-Sync MUX Switch + Optimus AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (8C/16T 4.7GHz Max Boost) 1TB SSD M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe RAM 16GB (2X8 DDR5 4800) RTX 3060 6GB GDDR6(Boost Clock 1752MHz, TGP 140W Dynamic Boost) WIFI6E WINDOWS 11 HOME
Hey, Jarrod. I wanted to ask you if the white version of the G15 was available somewhere. I have only been able to find the black version on Best Buy and Newegg
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Imagine going to the airport and having security ask "what's in your bag" you say "an M16"
“Knock”Knock”Knock” FBI OPEN UP!!!
Or imagine bringing this to school and saying you have an m16 in your backpack.
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@@dmistal-epidio173 I'm being raided! Or wait, am I being searched? 🤔
Creator should definitely target M16 for it's screen and CPU while the G15 is a solid all rounder. In the end it's more about what you need. These two machines are only different in the heart but deliver almost similar performance. You're not wrong getting both of them.
I agree!
My issue was I bought last years G15 and now this years has a integrated web cam.
Why Asus in 2021 after a global pandemic did you think a laptop wouldn't need a Webcam?
@@rehmanarshad1848 windows requires all new laptops shipped to have webcams for windows hello. so it's less "asus thought about it late" and more "asus got strong armed and was forced to include one" now that they have one i'm sure next year it will be upgraded nicely.
What about heat and noise levels? I had heard that it is almost unbearable in the M16, such as a scorching hot keyboard when gaming.
@Joel Conolly Sure this works between the M16 and G15, but personally I'm considering between the M16 and the Flow X16, where the Flow X16 has a nicer screen, so I'm super confused between having better performance in Adobe suite as opposed to having slightly better battery life, and a stylus capable screen
Literally the *ONLY* thing that stopped me from getting the G15 was the low brightness. I often study outside and the ~350 nits on the G15's panel automatically disqualified it
Same. I also got my M16 only because of display. 16:10, Brighter and more accurate display. Seemed like a more well rounded package overall.
They had to intentionally nerf the brightness. Otherwise the G15 would sell more than G14, M16, X16, and all their Strix series.
@@lars2894 Yeah. The M16 is like a fancier, higher-end version of the G15.
Was in the market last year for a new device and ended up buying the M16 because of the webcam. Loved the G15 as it was almost all i needed and the great reviews… if the G15 last year had the webcam, would’ve been sweet. Enjoying this video on my 2021 M16, thanks Jarrod, great video.
Is it as noisy as they say?
@@Ssh52 Yeah the fans do get loud, but it really is up to you if it bothers you.
are microphones as bad as in the video? seems like Jarrod's m16 mic somehow defective
@@PPerviz Cannot respond, as I do not own the 2022 model.
Currently bough this m16 with the same specs few months ago... cant even complain how fast it is. Already compared it to my friends m1 max and it crushes the macbook in creator applications. Also noticed few drops in temps because of their armoury crate updates. What a beast of a machine for something that doesn't screen "Im a fcking gaming laptop" One gripe I have for this though is the rubbery keyboard deck. Based on experience, those materials doesnt age well and will end up tearing if you don't take care of it properly.
How's the battery life
After watching around 300 laptop reviews and comparisons (mainly on this channel), I ended up doing a thin SFF desktop build for half the price (homemade case, flex ATX PSU, full size GPU) that fits easily in my backpack. Paralysis by analysis!
Do you have any photo I am really curious about it
Do you also carry a monitor and battery rack in that backpack :P
So youre packing a display and your peripherals?
@@nameless_stranger that's what I'm wondering as well. Maybe he has a monitor and peripherals in the office and at home. That way he can simply connect his PC and be done with it.
That's how it is for me, but I'm carrying a laptop. While some of my colleagues just got a Mac mini and are carrying it around.
@@waldamy I agree that this would be a better if option if your work is only done at selected places. I work anywhere with a plug and wifi/mobile data, its a laptop for me
For audio production which one would you recommend? Latencymon specs seems good for both. I tend to M16, as I don't play any games and battery life also isn't that important as I mostly would use it plugged in. I'd be most interested in better performance and better cooling (less fan noise). Brighter screen is nice to have and a bit larger screen is also welcome. Also, let me emphasize how grateful I am for your latencymon test in every video! 🙏🙏🙏
Intel > AMD for audio, generally, because 1) more CPU performance = always better, 2) Thunderbolt support gives you more options for professional-level interfaces, and 3) Intel chipsets usually have fewer bugs for audio. Obviously, though, Apple >>>>>> either if you actually care about fan noise, since even Apple laptops with fans are completely silent during audio production.
Lol the M16 just has an earrape filter built in 3:04
What a crazy world we now live in where the Intel CPU system has better synthetic/non-gaming performance but the AMD system out performs it in gaming performance.
Here its just that the ryzen system can put more power into the GPU than the 12th gen intel. Laptops are pretty limited to the power budget but it would be nice to see them lower the cpu power in the intel system in some "gaming" mode
Picked up the 2022 asus M16 the other day because it was on sale at best buy for like $1100 from like $1650. Would've got the G15 with the slightly better display resolution for the same price but out of stock quickly. I must say I do like the M16. The screen size and aspect ratio is great, very bright, and the colors are pretty good. Better than my old 2020 G14. I will say I wish it was a QHD display, and the disappointment is the website claims a 1600p display, but it's really only 1200p. Unless there's a secret way to set it to 1600 that I don't know about bc the max setting is 1200. No dedicated camera cover/off button, and the camera is absolutely terrible (only like 0.9mp for photos, but 720p video) but I don't use pc cams since I have a phone. It's a very nice laptop, thin for It's size, enough ports, great display (for FHD), and performs very well. In regards to wifi, surprised it automatically connect to my hotspot within seconds of turning it on.
I don't recommend gaming in battery mode which drops frame and you only have access to turbo mode when plugged in. Still no function key, and speakers sound great just need more bass.
As for the rear fans blasting the screen.....it doesn't matter. I had the G14 for over 2 years with heavy gaming and didn't affect screen at all.
It's a fantastic gaming laptop and the size/thinness is great. Significantly brighter than my old G14
We're only about 5 months away from CES, I'm hoping/expecting next year's g15 gets the g14 treatment from this year: vapor chamber, zen 4, next gen GPU's, 16:10 screen. I think that'll be the one to get, even if it increases in price slightly. I was excited about lenovo, but Asus actually releases laptops on time, their pricing is straightforward and armory crate is the best laptop control software IMO.
Asus quality control seems worse than lenovo's however, at least from what I have seen.
Yeah. I’m just waiting it out for newer gpus/processors
Agree with your expectations but I think the 16:9 is here to stay. The way that ASUS is currently positioning their product is this: A laptop for on-the-go work but also can game well? G14 (AMD CPU + AMD GPU). A thin and light laptop that is laser focused on gaming? G15 (which explains why they also include a 240Hz option) (AMD CPU + NVIDIA GPU). A laptop for gaming and content creation? M16 (Intel CPU + NVIDIA GPU). The fact is that 16:9 resolution is still superior for gaming, and those looking for a 16:10 screen will pushed toward the more expensive M16.
G15 will never be 16:10, only if they change its name to G16. What makes the M16 16 inches is the 16:10 aspect. It’s just a G15 with taller screen, same width
The comparison that everyone was wanting for, or at least what I was waiting for 👍
FINALLY. The video that I've been waiting for. Im going for the M16 then.
The M16 mic seems to be running pretty hot to me. Have you tried lowering its recording volume?
thank you Jarrod for amazing comparison , as usual your comparisons r best👌
Glad you like them!
G15 has the potential to be their best laptop but it feels like they intentionally held back. I need that 16:10
I think g15 is more focused on gaming than the other Zephyrus. 16:9 is the best for gaming as you won’t get black bars
The only thing that holds me off from buying G15 with RTX3060 (budget constraints) is that I'm afraid it will struggle to handle 1440p.
I have same laptop and it won't struggle to handle 1440p.
In games using dlss boost fps
To be honest most laptops will struggle to play games above 1080p. Only solution is to use dlss or fsr
Thank God DLSS exists. Its ur best friend.
You can thank Asus poor power management for your low CB23 score on battery. G14 and G15 models with 6X00HS processors can have power management issues. My G14 sometimes locks the CPU power to 35W and total power to 80w no matter what mode I’m running, only a full reboot can fix it. I can reproduce it 100% if I plug and unplug USBC power.
I bought both laptops, because I wanted to decide by myself which I will keeep and which Ill return and I didnt want to rely on youtube reviewers experience only because they often dont mention important things. G15 (AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS, RTX 3070 Ti, 16 GB RAM, 240Hz, 2560x1440) vs M16 (i7-12700H, RTX 3060, 16 GB RAM, 165Hz, 1920x1200). So there is my experience:
1) Both laptops have great speakers for its class and suitable for watching movies or videos on youtube, etc. But I must say unfortunatelly that speakers are not the same. G15 speakers have better base and are little bit more pleasent to listen. G15 speakers are the first laptop speakers where I didnt have the need to compare them with my Macbook 13 pro, which means they are very similar, or at least G15 speakers are not worse I would say. M16 speakers are little bit bellow my Macbook, but still if you dont compare them I think you will be satisfied with them.
2) Keyboard backlight on M16 is stronger than on G15 (its lowest level is as strong as G15 highest level of backlight). I prefer G15 backlight, especially in dark room.
3) Diplay on M16 is very bright, its lowest point could be even lower (especially in dark room). Here again I prefer G15 which is not that bright. In my case G15 has better resolution, but I personally think Full HD on M16 is enough.
4) M16 is quieter on performance mode when you are doing basic stuff like web browsing, The fans are almost idle or at least dont disturb me. On G15 I can get the same result but only through manual mode fan control
5) Integrated graphics is better on G15, some old games like Diablo II and Command and Conquer Generals were much smoother there (in comparison with Iris Xe on M16). But since both laptops have mux switch, this is not an issue anymore. You can switch on only discrete graphics and these games run smooth on both machines...
If you have some other questions?
which would be better for games, upgradability down the line, and longevity purposes?
@@EpicVideoMaster11 Its the same, here it depends if you prefer better speakers and smaller display or bigger display and little weaker speakers.
What about battery life?
How’s the heat on M16 screen?
@@jian8466 Heat is not an issue in my opinion
Would have been interesting to see the difference in FPS games, thinking the M16 might pull ahead in these games due to higher CPU usage?
Depends. I got the m16 2022 and it stayed on 150-170fps, returned it and got the Legion 5 pro AMD 2022 and it goes 240-260fps.
The settings were barely changed. The m16 has better colors though around 5% better, but that's not noticeable unless your eyes are really sensitive, or you're an artist's.
Taking about it compared to the G15, it won't hold a candle to the Legion 5 Pro with 50% more wattage on the Gpu and higher CPU power limits.
@@tonyn5026 yup. Though the Legion 5 pro got lighter and more compact compared to last year's, the g15 and m16 is still more portable.
But right now the Legions are cheaper than the m16 and g15.
Especially the Legion 7 Slim, which is smaller in size than both but has lower power(the 3060 is 100w)
The regular Legion 7s though, they are only 5mm-ish bigger in depth but portability is portability.
What I don't like is the full AMD on the Legion 7 2022, wish they could have made an AMD and RTX combination.
Was searching for this comparrison and saw that you uploaded it yesterday great coinsidence.
Im stuck between multiple models in this performance category. Im a college student going into computer engineering and will need good performance in the adobe suite and potentially CAD design. Im also heavy chrome user with 20ish tabs on a moderate day while doing productivity work, which also means I really want a 16" screen. Problem is, battery life is really important to me and a large screen and beefy specs dont work well with that. Ive been trying to find a machine that will last as close to a full day as possible when doing web browsing productivity work, and easily drill through more advanced works when I need it. (At the cost of battery life, of course). Basically, I want an M16 with an AMD processor or a macbook that can run Windows.
Right now Im eyeing the Asus flow x16, with the two main drawbacks being a meh hinge at best and what I think is an utterly stupid design choice if a micro sd card slot. (Why are so many manufacturers turning to that? Ive seen so many content-creation oriented devices implimenting that and I just dont understand why. Ive exclusively used full sized sd cards when shooting so I just get mad when I see a $2000+ laptop with 100% P3 coverage but no full sized card slot.) There is plenty of room on all Asus' latest laptops (M15, M16, Duo 16, Flow x16) for a full sized slot and the fact it isnt there baffles and aggravates me because I need a dongle for a laptop that has all the other ports I want.
Once reviews for the x16 come out Im inclined to think that'll be my pick. Battery life seems good and it has a great screen and all the power I need. But that eGPU port takes up space Id rather have for more USB ports or something because at least Id use it then.
buy a cheap one to offset the constant layoffs in the tech industry. Ask me how I know. A friend of mine who also works at a "top" tech company fully paid for his 2 kids to go to college. With one exception. Nothing in the tech field. These companies hire fresh college students for big salaries, but there is little job security and you can easily be replaced by an H1B for half the cost. They might do half the work, but they can hire multiple for an American salary. Its a rough field to be in. Good luck! Oh and its rough applying too, hiring managers get hundreds or thousands of applicants online and might spend 10 seconds on your resume, skipping everything and just filtering keywords. Really makes you feel like a cog rather than a person. Well that was a rant I wasn't expecting to type even 1 minute ago..... 😁
Why is intel still getting that premium treatment from laptop manufacturers? I'd love to have the 16 by 10 screen and the battery life of an amd machine...
Since the dimensions are the same, is it possible to swap the 16 : 10 screen and its bezel over to the G15?
Intel historically has had a much larger MDF (marketing development fund) and pays out more money to these manufactures to use intel processors in their flagship models. I am sure AMD has increased their own MDF efforts in the last couple years as AMD literally did not exist in the premium laptop space until a few years ago, but intel is such a large percentage of the mobility market that they have more incentive to keep that money flowing. Also, intel has always created a reference platform (basically a laptop that other vendors can use as stock or modify and sell under their own brand) which allows the vendors of these laptops to basically cut a huge amount of R&D costs of designing their own laptops and pass it off to intel. Again I am sure AMD is now doing this, but intel has been doing this for over a decade and has the systems in place, they have the contacts in these companies that know who at intel to call, and really has created these turn key intel laptop solutions that let companies slap their brand on a laptop intel designed without paying much at all in R and D costs.
Take a look at the new Legion 7 gen 7.
16:10 screen, full AMD advantage, premium built, 99.9whr battery.
There's also the Legion slim 7 gen 7. If you want thinner form factor.
Bro your getting an hour more relax
Was eagerly waiting for this video.Thank you so much.
Recently bought the G15. Wanted the better gaming performance, and it is currently $600 off from Best Buy as of 06/17/23, couldn’t resist!!
I was waiting for this video for a long time but I had to get a laptop last week so went with M16.
I was honestly hesitant to go with Intel based machine because these processors run hot and battery life for a laptop is quite important. But I REALLY wanted a 16:10 display coz I'm a programmer.
Appart from Battery life, I love everything about M16. I wish I could underclock CPU when unplugged but rest everything has been great especially the Display!
you can set lower wattage in manual mode fan control
If i'm not mistaken, the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro Gen 7 with AMD has been released for several weeks now. Are you chances planning to review it in the near future?
Hey Jarrod,
Regarding the issue with the G15 5520 from Dell, I upgraded to Windows 11 and I was getting constant blue screens randomly, so I just formatted it and went to Windows 10 again, that's all
Simple, if you create content or need a higher brightness screen then go for the M16. If you're just looking for a good all round gaming device then go for the G15. I'm curious though why there is such a difference between the battery life of the G14 and G15.
size
The G15 was an outliner compared to the other AMD models in terms of battery life, temperature and cpu power while unplugged
That's a bit weird
I m so suprised you havent covered rog strix g15 2022 yet.. ddr5 ram brings so much flavor to all comparisons
What's up with that M16 camera and mic? Sounds like 2003
Please make G14 vs G15 video ! It would be awesome.
With my asus rog strix g15 AAA edition,I got 11,685 graphics score with timespy. 11346 overall score. Thats far better than both g15 or M16,.
Even as a gamer u should get the m16. 3 fps in 1440p isnt a dealbreaker. and with a better cpu you can get higher fps in esport games and actually use the devices max rfresh rate in games. So m16 is definitely the better laptop all round
Mainly the screen is just better on the M16, absolutely gorgeous in person
Mainly the screen is just better on the M16, absolutely gorgeous in person
In India the g15 3080 varient is selling for $125 (approx) more than the 3070 variant. (all other specs same). Is the 3080 worth the extra money?
It's worth for the more VRAM.
For that much, yes, particularly if it has 16 GB of VRAM that you may need for your use case.
It’s not my friend trust me don’t listen to them…I am from India and I have an Asus ROG Strix Scar 15(Ryzen 9 5900HX) RTX 3080(16GB), WQHD 165 Hertz, 32GB Ram and 2TB SSD and I got it for 2,90,000Rs approximately 3700 Dollars in September 2021 and I recently saw Asus ROG Strix G15 With RTX 3070 level GPU, Same R9 5900HX CPU, 16GB ram ,1 TB SSD, Same WQHD 165 Hertz Display for 1,50,000 Rs and My Laptop should not have cost me more than (taking the cost of double the ram and double the storage, better mechanical keyboard, GPU) into consideration 2,20,000 Rs at Max means I paid extra of roughly 70000Rs means 900 Dollars and the gains are absolutely not worth the money you will NEVER need more than 8GB VRAM even if you are playing at MAX graphics trust me and I am talking about any heavy graphic intensive game does not cross beyond 4 or 5GB so it’s a total waste don’t make the same mistake I did any Laptop even if it’s a high end one should not cost you more than 2 lakh Rs at MAXIMUM trust me and 3070 is the most you will need going beyond it is just paying more money for absolutely nothing
No. Look at his reviews for the 3080. The Zephyrus only pulls 120 watts on the 3080, so it is beat by higher wattage 3070ti laptops.
@@Bro03 On Flipkart 3070 one is at Rs 201K and 3080 is at 211K. Should I spend an extra 10K INR difference?
I bought it in Canada off Amazon, and was recieved a white-only backlit keyboard. Nevertheless, I still enjoy the laptop, especially with the mind blowing screen, amazing cpu and RTX 3060 ✨
Would there be a video of this but with the 6800HS and the 12700H?
Could you please recommend the best gaming laptop under £1000. I feel like buying the MSI Katana GF66 i7-12700h rtx3050ti but I'm not sure if I should get it. You should earned a sub! 😃
It would have been better if the G15 was an all-AMD laptop.
They have Zephyrus G14 and Strix G15 for that. Can't have too many All-AMD due to Radeon GPU supply limits.
Man these laptops are obnoxiously loud. Thats the reason I swapped my M16 for a Blade 14.
Good video, when will you do a video of the Lenovo legion 5 of 2022?
MSI GL66 RTX 3070 (85W) or Acer Predator Helios RTX 3060 (130W) ?
Any suggestions??
just found out your channle and your content is the best.
Welcome aboard!
My Ryzen 9 5900HS, RTX 3070 and 40gb of ram G15 will be lasting me for years to come. I also have a Ryzen 9 5900X, RTX 3080 and 32gb of 3600 speed ram as my home PC. So, I'm set on PCs for at most 5 years. lol
Any recommendations on what RAM to buy for the M16?
I just bought mine, got the open box from Best Buy, basically new, and I wanna use the saved money for an additional 32 + the 16 onboard. I'll probably look into an extra M.2 soon as well.
Great review btw, thanks!
Great comparisons... Im in the market for a new gaming laptop. As im typing on my 2019 Asus ROG MGU502. Battery is no longer holding charge and I frequently get start up issues with lots of games stutter. Im over this pc and will skip on Asus for sure.
That soufttouch rubberized finish on the M16 kinda worries me. Anybody have info on how it will hold up?
Did you find that the G15 keyboard gets insanely hot? I just bought one and I've found my fingers burning on the central keys. I measured 50c on the R key for example. Also, it won't go to sleep, whatever power settings I choose. :(
have u reached out to asus ?
Try Hibernation instead of sleep.
I had that issue and after a clean installation of Windows things seem to have settled down for good. As for thermals I recommend undervolting both the CPU and GPU. My internal temperatures dropped by 10-15°C.
@@knip-pink I'm trying to avoid formatting, but probably should! You're right about undervolting as well, I'll have to have a fiddle after the format.
@@kiet3524 I have, we'll see what they say!
Thanks Buddy!
Jarrod would you be able to to a review of the M16 vs the Apple MacBook Pro 16 to see the performance comparisons between the 2? Would be interesting! Thank you
How do you feel about getting an m16 with the soldered 8gb ram and and additional 32gb stick. Do you think performance would take a hit due to the big difference in sticks?
I currently am using last years M16 model (11800h 3050ti) and the screen is worth the slightly worse GPU (I could've gotten a 3060 laptop for the price I paid but I got it on a good deal) as the color accuracy and nearly 500 nits brightness helps me more than a better GPU but half the brightness and way worse color screen.
I got M16 because of the screen and when I bought it Best Buy had it for sale for 1849 while G15 is at 1999
Why are we paying $3700 in Aus for this spec of the G15 when it's a flat 2k in the States? The exchange rate is no where near that bad.
Great review! I love the design of the M16, one of the nicest looking machines in my opinion 😍
They both have the same design xd
@@etemm29 M16 has taller “feet”, a rubberized finish and more screen-to-body ratio
@@etemm29 almost yes 😄 but especially the 16" screen looks really cool. And I like the dark finish more (even though they might be available in both).
i know you usually cover gaming laptops but would you mind checking out lenovo 14w gen2? laptop seems nice but there is 0 coverage online. its not very powerful, im getting it only to interface my server but still
I just looked that up. Its fine for what it is, but the standout concerns would be 4gb of memory, and the screen resolution and brightness. Those specs are low for any use case I think. Did you buy it?
Is it possible to make a Zephyrus G16, By swapping the lid on the G15 with that from a M16 as both of seems pretty identical physically except for the lcd panel. Both of them uses identical screen connectors (40 pin eDP ) and same kind of web cam so, possibly the same usb 2.0 internal connector
Jarrod, without going water coolimg, whats the coolest tempt gaming laptop u tested yet?
Asus is not honoring warranties. has not You have given an update of the AGESA libraries for strix advantage edition support does nothing they just ignore the problem. If Asus is not responsible then we should stop purchasing their products.
Hey man can anyone help me out new to this I have the m16 i7 3060 version still new in the box I’m debating on returning it for a GP66 with the 3070 or a legion 5 pro 3070 amd any thoughts ?
Do they have a base model with cheaper price? I really love the design of these laptops. Also, great indepth review as always.
Yes, the models that he reviewed is almost maxed out.
I'm biased cause I have the M16 but boy I gotta say.. every time I look at my screen I'm sure I made the right choice
i don't know why but i watch every second of his vids till the last
thank u
i got g15 r9 6900hs 3070ti recently, it is really a good laptop but i dont recomind to buy it because the cooling issue is shiit, the hot air go to the monitor if u are planning to play 3aaa game , dont buy g15 go to build a pc instead, but if u just want to use it for college like photoshop stuff and some smaller size game like cs league valorant u can go for it if u are planning to play 3aaa games dont because i tried , apex legend ,cyberpunk gta , these game will make the laptop over heat, u can cook an egg on it no joke.(hot air go to the monitor is the main problem G15)
Which one is better for engineering student?
M16
Intel is better for that at the cost of battery life and heat
They should just give the G15 the M16’s screen and call it a day.
G15 will never have the same screen as M16, only if they change the name to G16
Asus x16.. amd cpu and 16:10 mini led display
Hows the heat when sitting laptop on lap? Cause that would be main situation id be using it in... also hows the keyboard? Iv heard some say they have spots that are unresponsive / dont register their touches very often... and that concerns me n idk if its a few models thing or if it happens to many others
Great video, thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Thanks for the video man please talk about Gigabyte Aorus series
I've already covered the 17 and 17X.
@@JarrodsTech Yes I have seen that video but I find a deal for " AORUS 15 Gaming Laptop, Intel Core i7 12700H, GeForce RTX 3070 Ti, 15.6 Inch 165Hz QHD IPS Display (AORUS 15 XE4-73DEB14SH) " snd I really want to know is it a good 15 inch laptop or not Thank you
After having to return seven, yes..seven, different G14, G15, and M16 laptops to Best Buy over the last year and a half because of ASUS quality control issues, I don't think I'll ever be able to recommend them to anyone.
You must have really shit luck. 7??? Damn.
@@cheekypasta55 Yup. 5 of them for screen issues, 1 for keyboard, touchpad, & speaker issues, and 1 for a damaged hinge that was cracking. They were all 2021 and 2022 models.
So... the G15 comes in both AMD and Intel. How does the intel G15 compare to the M16?
why does the m16 have to have a 16:10, i guess if i had to choose one of these it would be the g15 as games that dont support that aspect ratio will be screwed up. unfortunate
I'm looking forward to the Flow X16 this year
I’m glad that I bought the M16! I’m loving it!
Great review as usual bro .l wish I had a chance on these machines these are absolute power M16 is worth more
Can you tell me why my G15 2022 model have bad battery life? And Its temp at silent and without stress is 50°C why?
Can you review alienware m15 r7 please
I don't know if it's just me, but the graphics performance of the M16 is much lower than in the early days of its release
At the beginning of its release, 3070ti scored more than 27,000 points
The 3080 ti is over 29000 points but is now down to 27000-28000 points
The temperature is not high either
did you not investigate why the g14 was doing better than g15 on battery??
bro my Asus G15 2022 with Ryzen 7 6800HS with RTX barely touches 210 min and the G15 showing has the same battery how you get more battery life brother tell meeeee
I prefer G15 as it is completely silent when idle :) and battery life ofc is much longer :) I am not a big fan of soft touch surface ;(
M16 is also silent in idle mode. I have both laptops until I decide which Ill keep :)
I wondering about performance comparisson between top of chart laptops like GT77, GE76, G733 etc with top specs against PC with same parts, and pricing comparisson too. Very interesting topic as for me
3:05 M16's mic sound like those deep fried memes lmao
Should I get a Asus Roy Strixt g16 or a Lenovo Lengion pro 5i?
Hi there, I have a 2020 Asus Rog Strix G15 with an RTX 2060 (G512LV). This version came without a lightbar at the button but there are sockets on the board for them. I want a button case with the light bar but can't find one. Who has a connection please let me know.
please mak video benchmark ; Asus Rog Flow x16 🤩🤩🤩
Hey @jarrod, could you please tell me which is better between M15 and the Flow x16 for gaming and regular office work.
How does these machines do with Matlab and Simulink? I didn't see them included
Having an issue where my GPU TDP is always showing 80W. Can’t seem to get it to say 120W
I go with m16 for the bigger screen
Hey jarrod srry to bother you man, but I found this two and I dont know which is the better option:
1. Msi alpha ryzen 7 5800h rx6600m
2.lenovo ideapadgaming 3 ryzen 7 5800h rtx 3060
Both 16 ram and 512ssd
Same price.
I know it’s a bit off topic but were can you buy a zephyrus g14 in the uk?
hi jarrod can i ask you for advice? I'm looking for a notebook for content creation and gaming with a maximum budget of 1500euro. I found two interesting notebooks, the 1st at 1399euro and the 2nd at 1499euro, can one of these two work well or can I find better?
Lenovo Legion 5 (2021)
Full HD 15.6'' IPS 165Hz 300Nits sRGB 100%
Dolby Vision, Free-Sync, G-Sync, DC dimmer
AMD Ryzen 7 5800H (8C/16T 3.2/4.4 GHz)
512GB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe 3.0x4 NVMe
RAM 16GB (2X8 DDR4 3200)
RTX 3070 8GB GDDR6(Bost Clock 1560MHz,
TGP 130W)
WIFI 6
WINDOWS 11 HOME
Asus Rog Strix G15 (2022) G513RM-HQ064W
QHD (2560 X 1440) 16:9 15.6" IPS, DCI-P3 100% TIME RESPOND 3MS, Adaptive-Sync
MUX Switch + Optimus
AMD Ryzen 7 6800H (8C/16T 4.7GHz Max Boost)
1TB SSD M.2 PCIe 4.0 NVMe
RAM 16GB (2X8 DDR5 4800)
RTX 3060 6GB GDDR6(Boost Clock 1752MHz, TGP 140W Dynamic Boost)
WIFI6E
WINDOWS 11 HOME
Asus.
G16 microphone sounds like old youtube videos from 2007
Hey, Jarrod. I wanted to ask you if the white version of the G15 was available somewhere. I have only been able to find the black version on Best Buy and Newegg
It appears to be regional and the white one isn't sold in the US.
Why you removed GE67 HX from the score table?
man i have the m16 and the microphone and camera both works better than what u have showed in this video
That's fortunate. Hopefully it was just something weird with my unit.
1:12 Willing to bet that the reason the g15 doesn't have that screen can be found inside Intel's pockets?
Wow, thanks for testing Linux support. That's awesome