Our First LDS Temple Experience - Kelly & Heather Laing
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- Опубликовано: 31 авг 2021
- Mormon Stories Podcast guests, Kelly & Heather Laing, discuss their first Mormon temple experiences and their initial impressions of the temple ceremonies.
This excerpt is from Mormon Stories episode 1466 - “Mormon Nuclear Submarine Commander & His Family - Kelly and Heather Laing Pt. 1”
The full interview can be found at: • Mormon Nuclear Submari...
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I always waited for that spiritual confirmation that the temple stuff was inspired. It never came.
I resented at each step baptism through temple ordinances everyone telling me how special it was and how awesome I must be feeling when I felt nothing
I remember as a kid getting baptized for dead people, thinking "What kind of nonsense is this?"
@@mylesmarkson1686 do you believe the bible?
@@theephraimite I sure don't. It's a collection of ramblings by a bunch of cave-dwelling neanderthals from a long time ago, but thanks for asking!
@@theephraimite Hi! I believe the Bible. I know it talks about people being baptized for the dead in Corinthians. But having seen a hidden cam video from inside an LDS temple, I don't think that's what the Corinthians were doing.
Getting the initiatory and endowment on the same day as the sealing would have been exhausting. Then they had to do the reception and start the honeymoon.
I remember that experience… OMG. Talk about triggers.
Yeah
I got married in the temple as well. It freaked me out, was NOT special or sacred, it was creepy. My husband and I only went back once. I also did anointings. It was so bizarre and uncomfortable. The lady touched VERY close to my private’s also. That was the last time I went. I will never go again. It was truly traumating, caused me anxiety, not a good place to be, very creepy.
How many women's "private parts" have been "touched" or examined during the birthing of their child; or the subsequent stiching by a male medical practitioner?
Furthermore, how many men have had a bed bath performed by a female nurse?
Or how many men have had a catheter inserted in their penis by a female nurse?
So creepy
@@alexanderv7702 You have been brainwashed completely. They stopped this creepy stuff, but I had been totally traumatized. We expect Doctors to see and touch us. This is totally different.
Temple patrons aren’t medical professionals…
@@alexanderv7702 Those are medical purposes but who the heck religious ceremony do that except the mason? Get yo brain straighten up
How many of us sat in the celestial room wondering how much it cost to build all of that? What a waste of money.
My friend took me to the Oakland temple when it was getting renovated so I could see the celestial room. I had to pretend to be impressed bc I didn’t want to hurt her feelings, but all I could think is “THIS is it???”
Wow, just plain wow. Every time I learn something new about what goes on / went on in LDS temples I have the same reaction 🙃
And seriously, I extend sympathy to those who were traumatized by the experience ❤️
WHAT THEY DO IN THE TEMPLE.
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Be grateful you never experienced what it was originally like... note the bathtubs in the original floorpans of the SLC temple... I'm betting those get totally removed when the second baptistry gets put in (and isn't that idea a trip and a half).
What were the bathtubs for? I’m just barely learning these things.
@@jordanalexander8099 they used to strip you naked and not just symbolically but actually bathed you and anointed you and then put your garment on you. Men performing for men, and women for women. That was replaced by the use of “shields” (basically a big heavy white poncho and the washing and anointing became touching under the shield. Then in the late 90s that was all changed. You put your garments on in your locker, the shield got sewn up the sides and the touching with water and oil was done over the top. If I understand it correctly (I left in 2000) now it’s just a touch to the crown of the head for both parts.
The more they’ve changed it, the more the symbolism has become vague until it’s become incomprehensible. I believe certain rites of Free Masonry used to wash and anoint candidates for initiation, and in medieval times candidates for knighthood were washed and anointed before they were dubbed thrice with the sword. So historically there was a lot of symbolic acts that matched the words used in the initiatory, but nowadays they are probably incomprehensible. Also prior to the 1960s you performed the washings and anointing for each endowment you did for the dead. Then it was separated and you would perform it like they do baptisms, you’d get a batch of 10 or more names to do one after the other. The bottleneck is the endowment.
Hope that helped.
Very interesting
I merry in the temple, it never when through my mind what was happening because I was very young 17 and really didn’t understood the marriage.
Only I know is the I never had my beautiful wedding dream. I respect their choices and ways to religious life. 9 years later I divorced.
My son got merry by the temple and I was not permitted to attend. Didn’t kept temple requirements.
Never married again,
I can only say thank god
I never had any issues with the church or people of the church ⛪️ well respect and learn beautiful home economic from all the women in the church.
Out side church and at my home.
I had to divorce to much for me,
Many years later, I hear so much going on is hard to believe.
Thank you for your explanation Gary.
God bless. Be safe life is crazy outside in this new world 🌎
@@beastoz Yeah, and since "the brethren" are constantly in tune with the mind and will of the Lord, I guess the Lord has had second and third thoughts about lots of things, and had trouble making up his mind about the best stuff and the best approach . . . right? That's the implication and any reasoning person would come away with after they actually THINK about it.
This cult really needs to be stopped!
Let’s outlaw Mormonism. That sounds like a great idea……not.
I think the reason for the 2005 changes was simply changing views of having strangers touch bodies in the temple. It's radically different now and more symbolic. Kelly would have been really shocked by the Nauvoo and early Utah periods. Members were fully naked and had a full body wash by temple worker. That's why there were bathtubs in early temples.
I was absolutely certain that Eve was going to come across the screen fully naked at the beginning of the video. My Bishop sitting on my right, my seminary teacher in my left. I came close to throwing up.
weird and pointless and super culty, the temple was one of the big things that started me leaving the church
People seem to throw the word “cult” a lot. Define cult.
Let's call it what it is, sexual assault.
I’m a private person but never felt abused. They were very careful and discreet.
Absolutely is not sexual assault or anything like unto it. How could all these people feel this way about something that so many did feel was special and sacred? I guess this is a great forum to declare your victimhood-so many other “victims” here.
@@mdcarson I don’t believe for one second that some temple worker “dip several fingers in oil and massaged some man’s nipple”. The stories get weirder and sicker in their fabrication.
Sexual assault….just a little melodramatic I’d say.
My mother had polio as a teenager in the 1950’s. It severely stunted the growth of one of her arms and hand. She told me before she died how awful an experience for her to go through what was required in the temple. It effected her deeply.
I love this, I really do and you guys are amazing for talking openely. One issue I have guys: She does not have equal talk time and I wish ex Mormon women would get more space to talk.
I would encourage you to go watch the full interview to hear more of Heather's story! It is a great one and she has plenty of interesting things to share. The full interview can be found at: ruclips.net/video/w3ilc0HvXak/видео.html
@@UnderstandingMormonism thank you, will listen to it
She looks like she is comfortable having her husband do most of the speaking no? Some people don't want the spotlight.
Do they still have you put on Lucifer's apron represents his power and his priesthood? Lucifer's church?
Uhhh. The patrons don’t put on Lucifer’s apron.
Did they remove death penalties in temple boring
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Social pressure and shaming the church to change temple ordinances? Buddy, if there is a concern, leaders can petition the Lord to address concerns and ask for a change if possible. God did not want ancient Israel to have an earthly king, but after Israel whining because they did not have a king like other nations, the prophet Samuel petition the Lord. The Lord relented and let Israel have a king, despite he not agreeing to it. Use some common sense, leaders can petition the Lord for a change.
Wednesday ngt - May 25, 2022.
With temple attendance over the period of probably 25 years, I can honestly say, always creepy and never once liked it.
Health in the navel marrow in the bones strength in the loins and in the sinews power in the priesthood be upon me and upon my posterity through all generations of time and throughout all eternity what a bunch of BS!
Oh man, you are definitely going to hell now!! LOL :-)
this is a out of context taken from the bible and it's not definitely has to do with Priesthood.
said in a rushed mumbly monotone
Oh god, hear the words of my mouth (repeated 3 times)
@@denz4133 formerly known As PAY LAY ALE sounds drunk to me
I also was a Temple Veil Worker for several years in the Salt Lake Temple. I played “God” and asked for signs and tokens from each person to enter the Celestial Room. It was also very creepy and weird. I had to clasp hands and whisper quietly the five tokens of priesthood fellowship, etc. and ushered them into the Celestial Room. Most of these men smelled and had very sweaty palms. Ugh! One after the other, for a couple of hours each session. This is such a brazen cult. I must say I was definitely caught up, but soon realized how stupid it was.
Don't y'all remember reading in the Bible where the Savior took his apostles and several other disciples through the temple, had them learn all kinds of Masonic-like signs. oaths, and signals . . . and then had them don special underwear with Masonic-like markings on them . . . so they could meet this requirement necessary for exaltation? No? You don't remember that? Huh. Could it be because it wasn't deemed that important by historians, or could it be that it just NEVER HAPPENED? Or, was the Savior just a novice in spiritual matters, and hadn't yet had the necessary instruction from those who were more duly anointed and privy to all these Priesthood matters?
Interesting you can find images in drawings from a thousand years ago with similar markings on the clothing. These are not masonic symbols, they predate freemasonry.
@@imboredimbored8252 Yeah, going back to the early days of Beehive Clothing, right?
the tabernacle temple and temple of solomon were sacred but not secret we know all what's going on inside unlike this bullshit thing that's been ripped off from masonry.
The church teaches that in fact Jesus did teach the apostles the endowment and performed this higher ordinance not in the Jerusalem temple which was “fallen” and limited to “Aaronic priesthood ordinances of sacrifice” but on the Mount of Transfiguration assisted by Moses and Elijah etc when the “Melchizedek priesthood” was given to them, together with the binding or sealing power. But of course all that was lost after that dispensation “failed” and all the apostles were killed. Joseph Smith, Brigham Young and the others were quite imaginative… and historically the endowment was a lot longer.
@@beastoz Thanks for your opinions.
It's a cult........let's get real. Sick and sad
The temple has become more meaningful the older I get and the more I understand the world. It's not about having holiness and knowledge dumped down on you. It's about reaching up. If you don't make anything of it and if there is no effort, it may always mean nothing. It can be a task for a literal mind.
Being spiritually prepared to participate in sacred covenants is important when going to the Temple or really while participating in a any religious ceremony. Faith is an important principle in any religious ordinance, as it allows the spirit to participate and touch our souls in a way that our physical eyes or senses cannot duplicate. I felt the power, holiness purity of the sacred ordinances that i experienced in the Temple. Based upon your comments, it leads me to questions your motives and purpose to be married in the Temple in the first place. But please do not worry, you may fool your Bishop and or a member of the Stake Presidency, but not the Lord. Your wedding vows in the Temple, unless you repent will never be realize, The Holy Ghost will never validate your ceremony but I guess that's ok for you, as you never did believe anyway.
You felt what you wanted to feel. The LDS church is a cult no different than J Dubs, David Koresh, heavens gate, and all the others. All the lies, falsehoods and contradictions within mormonism are a matter of record, but the cult tactic of preventing you from the study of such things you believe. Its funny to me at least that a Group who has publicly announced to be the "Most True of any on earth" would hide from anything!? The truth runs from nothing, it avoids nothing, it BOLDLY invites any opposition. If the Mormon/LDS church was true, why is it so afraid of truth?
It's obviously the wrong religion. Christianity it's the right religion. To have a relationship with Jesus Christ. To accept him as your lord and Savior. I myself was a Mormon. Mormons play or mess with charms Deuteronomy 18:11 look it up . That just one red flag. It's important for a person knows his salvation. God bless you all...
Batshit crazy!
I call BS. I went through for the 1st time in 1989. I doubt most of what he claims his experience was.
Just a reflection of you. Glad ur gone.