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My take as a former 13 year old girl during the same time as Mei is that the red panda is what comes with puberty. The red is menstruation, obviously, and also anger, lust, and embarrassment. The way she kept sniffing herself really cracked me up. With puberty comes sudden stinky pits lol. I think the locking away of your panda self symbolizes the choice to suppress one’s sexuality, lust, anger, etc. Women in particular have traditionally been expected to be proper ladies; we don’t lust or yell or make messes. While mom and grandma chose to suppress that side of themselves, Mei makes the very Millennial decision to embrace and learn to control it.
Agreed! I like how this movie didn't shy away from the real struggle and messiness that goes hand in hand with puberty and oftentimes strong emotions as well
@@nickreacts6394 It was funny watching your brother's take that she was sassing back too much against authority but as an older brother my younger brothers realize that my struggle against my parents (especially mom) broke a lot of ground for them. They never had the rules or expectations that I may have had to deal with and the parents picked their hills to die on a little more selectively with them.
Plus, red pandas can be very stinky. Like skunks, they have musk glands under their tails and can release it when they are scared or to fend off predators.
I agree, I like how this film showed the "messiness" of puberty but also the shame surrounding intense emotions and sexuality within the context of an asian family. Growing up in a similar environment I related so much to Mei when she felt something was wrong with her for having strong emotions or even having a crush. I'm so glad I can appreciate that side of myself now as adult. I'm passionate dang it, and I love that! :) Sex and high emotion like anger is also seen as taboo within most asian families so I'm glad this film shed some light on that, even for those who came from western families. Having seen other reactions, the comments showed that a lot of people grew up in repressive households in the west as well. Some have even said sex and periods were so taboo that they had to learn about these topics from their friends, or they thought they were literally haemorrhaging because their parents didn't explain periods to them. I'm not personally that bothered with needing to feel "represented" in my entertainment but I do appreciate that this film tackled the struggles young girls go through. It really was refreshing to see :)
Jin: How much has your mother told you about her panda?
Mei: Nothing.
And that is the primary problem presented by the movie. Mothers who were young teens in 2002 have young teens now; I think that is the target audience for this movie. This movie is a warning for those mothers to begin telling their daughters about the chaos, messiness, and self-conscientiousness of that age that they themselves felt, and help their daughters through it with communication.
Sometimes knowing a little bit about it is not enough. I knew what happens turing puperty but when I got my period the shock hit me like a brick wall that led into a depression especailly because mentally I was still a child at that point. My mom didn't asked me how I was or how I felt because she was under the impression everything is clear to me therefore there is nothing to talk about and I was not able to express how I felt, what I was going through. There was also a lit of shame. I had some friends but no one close enough to exchange with them. It took the whole class inculding our teacher to help me out of my state of depression. But even then, when my teacher adressed that there was a problem my mother didn't show much empathy which made it even more impossible to talk to her about my feelings (even if I would have been able to express them).
I think that Ming's panda is so big because she is the one who carried the most repressed emotions.
I like this interpretation, it fits very well with the theme of the movie and with Ming's character
That's actually it
I cannot express how much this movie is doing to normalize teenage girl behaviour. Having a crush, having menstruation (even if he didn't actually) and changing in ways that you can't comprehend until you are there.
So many franchises and people either infatilaze or make fun of 'girly' stuff. It isn't for no reason that people have started re-analysing Twilight and concluding that, while their still mediocre to kinda bad, they are nowhere near the level of awful that people gave these movies. The main point was: Teenage girls like these and teenage girls are stupid.
Though I have to say: I didn't go through a boyband phase. I _did_ go through a "Gaara and Neji from naruto and Sesshomaru from Inuyasha are my Soulmates and I can _fix them_ !" - phase, so, there is that...
Wait, Gaara is supposed to be a phase?
*cries in 25*
Sesshomaru was not a phase. Though my husband is exactly the opposite
@@powersthetiddygoblin I didn't say tthat it had ended yet.
@@alyshaharper8730 Mine too XD
Not into boy bands, but I was a Vocaloid kid. Yeah...
I think the fact that the aunties, grandma and mother still choose to seperate from their Pandas means that they have been seperated for too long. They have grown up without the Panda and it isn't an actual part of them anymore.
Ah ok... this was the part that was most unclear to me... was it as simple as them choosing a different lifestyle/ behavior (more traditional)? Or are we meant to see them as partly tragic figures who remained repressed and could fully be themselves?
@@nickreacts6394 I saw someone say that it just represents that there's no one path that's right for everyone. Both leaving behind your "rebellious phase" or embracing it and building up on it can be equally valid, as long as it's your own, honest choice, and not just letting someone else decide for you.
For Mei it was painful trying to separate herself from the panda, since it gave her so much joy and freedom, she had so many doubts about leaving it behind. The aunts just went through the portal with ease, they weren't too attached their pandas, and in Ming's case, she really felt like she was better off without it.
@@nickreacts6394 The reasons could be the following
1) As you pointed out, they could've repressed their emotions because they're constantly reminded about the dark side of the panda(by their mothers, sisters etc.) and so they choose to not even explore the positive side of the panda. Gradually, they get used to it and thus it's easier to get rid of that part of them and they've somehow come to terms with it.
2) They could've experienced the "dark" side of the panda first hand. They might have hurt someone or would've gotten hurt in the process and would've hated the panda for that. They are scared and scarred so much that they don't want the panda in them at all. They get rid of it and gradually get used to it.
3) They could've lead their lives being the obedient and perfect daughter for so long that wouldn't have had the chance or the requirement to let it out.
3:42 As the director pointed out, boy bands are many a young girls introduction to things like crushes, love, romance, relationships, break-ups, and their own hormones and sexuality. And even though it doesn't seem safe to them, it actually is all in a safe way. So yeah, kind of are mandatory phase for most teen or tween girls.
I absolutely love this film. Have seen it a few times now with my soon-to-be-10-yo daughter, and it's really started a conversation about puberty, periods, and sexuality. Love it!
I also absolutely love how diverse the friend group is, my daughter's friends are the same. Her best friends are British, Mexican, Chinese, and Finnish/Somali, and we live in Sweden.
For sure this one is a good conversations starter, especially with one's children! That's really cool you were able to use this movie as a fitting topic for productive family discussions
Not the first time I heard someone mention that the parents should have kept it quiet when talking about mei mei. Then, something hit me, so I looked it up. Apparently, red pandas have excellent
hearing, smell and sight. I wonder if Mei Mei's senses are enhanced when she's the red panda. Clearly, she gains other 'powers' from that form, so it would make sense that maybe her hearing is heightened and she could hear the parents even though they were whispering.
The message that kids should do their part to help out is definitely in the movie. Also in the movie there are consequences to Mei’s letting her emotion get the best of her. She is reprimanded for it and feels horrible about her losing her temper. It is in no way telling kids that they can do whatever they want without repercussions.
Yes. And Mei starts and ends with the continual desire to be her mother's pride and a good daughter. The epic battle between Mei and Ming is conceptually equal to the battle between Ming and Wu, except that Mei and Ming have family and friends to help prevent the battle from destroying their relationship.
The thing about Ming repeating her own mother's perfectionism with Mei Lin is it's like 50% subconscious and 50% her actually trying to do the opposite but not being equipped to or able to get away from how she was raised. Like a lot of what she did to Mei Lin was specifically to try to avoid the traumas she experienced as a child (watching over her so closely and avoiding 'worrying' her about the panda until she had to, and going ballistic over Devon (since her big fight with her mom was over Jin)). and she tries very hard to be the 'cool friend' mom, but she simply doesn't have the context to express it outside of Tiger Momness.
Mings controlling and overbearing behaviour was precisely why Mei acted out and went behind her parent's back. If you don't allow some outlet, then that is inevitably going to happen...especially during the onset of puberty where rebellion often happens.
Interesting. I'd thought she had been putting in all the work at the expense of her childhood up until now? She went to a concert in the movie but I feel like that was the first time she'd really rebelled against her mother. I mean she couldn't even show she was upset when she'd gotten embarrassed at the convenience store.
I think the ‘turning red’ is symbolic of a more abstract concept than periods/puberty. Although it does intersect with the larger idea, they explicitly acknowledge it (through showing pads and deodorant) as a whole separate thing since it shouldn’t be a subject we avoid talking about anyway - it’s not what the transformation wholly represents. The gift/curse is representative of the issues that Asian women experience. A lot of it appeared to be alluding to the freedom to express their true emotions and experiences. We see the girls talk a lot about “becoming women” and while the mum seems to have talked about periods with Meilin before, Ming never said a thing to Meilin about the transformation [which could be read as a euphemism for sex (similar to what we saw on Bridgerton with Daphne and her mother)] or even just a conversation about how Meilin was really feeling.
If I had to ‘assign’ a specific word to the whole ‘turning red’ concept, it would be 'voice'. In the legend of Sun Yee, she wishes for something to protect herself and her daughters when soldiers (who are all male and can thus be interpreted as the patriarchy) attack and the strongest 'weapon' you can give women against a sexist society is a voice. This also works with the themes of (South East) Asian family dynamics and intergenerational trauma because what you need to break that cycle is someone to use their voice to push back and stand up for their individuality.
I went into this movie with the lowest of expectations [especially after how forced Raya and Shang Chi (and the absolute train wreck that was Mulan) felt] but now I feel like I could talk about it forever 😆
I haven’t seen many people interpret that the panda’s meaning has a lot more issues interweaved into it than female puberty (although I think the director herself said it’s about female puberty) so I really enjoyed watching the reaction and hearing your analysis!
I'm one of those people who argue that it's more than just puberty. Women in general and Asian women in particular have been taught to repress their emotions and assertiveness. As you say, they explain pretty explicitly that the red panda was to protect the women from male bandits...that's certainly not menstruation or even puberty in general.
My two cents: The panda is a metaphor for puberty and, I think, womanhood and/or modern feminism in a way.
The whole movie has themes of generational trauma, the mum and the aunt's are okay with who they've had to become and what they had to do, in locking the panda - the emotions and womanhood (could also go down a whole patriarchy route) - but the mum by the end can recognise and allow Mei Mei to not have to do that and become herself with support and love.
The mum, and grandma, heal and learn that what they had to do isn't what they're going to force on Mei Mei.
As someone who was a thirteen year old girl during the 2000s, I would have appreciated this movie so much if nothing but for normalising period products and parent struggle and growing up and maturing. I think they portray Mei Mei's respect and love for her family very well I don't think she needed to show more of her own growth in her family, she just wanted to be herself more.
I also love that her Mum's panda becomes a tamagotchi that she has to care for and listen to, not lock away and ignore! It shows her mum is learning along with her daughter 💜
I have to admit I have a bias towards this film so maybe that’s why I didn’t feel like it was on the nose? I love it overall because I’ve never seen such an accurate portrayal of my childhood (minus the Panda). Mei dancing during the opening credits (uncanny)…the boyband craze, doing the dance moves…I still remember creating choreography for Britney’s “Oops I did it again” with my friends at school. Then of course the Asian family - the pressure, the over protectiveness, the aunties (down to their outfits), oh and watching telenovelas 😳 …it felt so surreal! haha.
Regarding Mei lying. I don’t think this was a lesson she needed to learn. She knew it was wrong but the film was trying to show how this type of behaviour manifests to begin with. I think a lot of people look at kids who rebel or who lie and fear it. Having been a rebel most of my life I can attest that rebellion or “bad behaviour” is actually the result of too much control, not the lack of it. I have zero experience being a parent, but I do know that children are not that different from adults. Just like any human they just want to be be seen, heard and unconditionally loved. Parents projecting their fears that their children may rebel or may make foolish decisions only creates distrust and a self fulfilling prophecy of what they fear most. And I do love that the film addressed that these fears are connected to generational trauma. Yes, wanting to protect your child is normal but Ming was more than “a little overbearing.” Picking up Mei’s journal without her permission was her not respecting boundaries and then bringing the pads to school (yes I do know mothers who’ve done that). Ming had good intentions but her need to control was driven by her fear of feeling shame, of being a bad parent, of not being “perfect.” It’s why she blamed Mei’s friends because if Mei is imperfect then that’s a reflection on her. The pressure on children to uphold the perfect image for their parents is so real especially in “Asian” culture. At least that has been my experience and my friends as well. I will say, that I bawled my eyes out at the scene with young Ming because it’s how I’ve had to view my family dealing with generational trauma…learning to see that their inner child is just afraid of being judged and how the lack of healing meant they unconsciously passed that on to their children.
Your point about responsibility and “not being a selfish kid”…I think that was kind of the problem to begin with. Her mother ended up depressed and broken because of it. During the fight scene Ming says “I didn’t get to go to concerts, I put my family first.” She sacrificed herself for the approval of her mother so she wouldn’t be seen as selfish and that just made her resentful. Parent child relationships shouldn’t be transactional. If a parent sacrifices for their child, that comes with the package of being a parent. Children don’t owe their parents for that because they didn’t ask to be born. I think introducing kids to a bit of “work experience” is not a bad thing but Mei was expected to help out every day. If you need your kid to help with the family business due to severe financial circumstances, then ok, but otherwise, that is not your child’s responsibility (in my opinion). Children are not there to be extensions of their parents but that’s what ended up happening to Mei. Guiding your kids to discover themselves, giving them a say about whether they want to do “Temple Duties” is not a bad thing. Mei is right when she said she was a good kid. She proved at the beginning that she was already responsible and understood the importance of family. She shouldn’t be seen as selfish for expressing an alternative opinion to her parents or her not wanting to do her “duties.” These are things children should be able to discuss with their parents without judgement. And I don’t agree that being a “good” kid should be based on such conditions anyway. Instead of dictating to kids, how about we listen to their opinions once and a while? If that makes me an idealist then so be it 😇
And your point about emotions and learning what is “acceptable”…I think that’s why this film is incredibly nuanced. The scene where Mei was overhearing her parents discuss how out of control she was, remember how that made her feel so ashamed? Yes there is a level of etiquette in order to function in society, but if I had kids, that would be something I would explain is a part of life but I wouldn’t normalise it either. I wouldn’t expect my kids to tone down their feelings inside the home because I’d like to think they would feel safe to be their full, unfiltered self with me at least. Society’s standard of maturity or what’s “acceptable” is not an objective truth in my eyes. To me there are no “negative” emotions, not even anger. It’s a label we’ve placed as a society. Feelings are meant to be processed and in fact when we try to judge feelings as “too much”, that is when they actually get out of control. Emotions don’t get out of control in isolation. Every time Mei was “out of control” it was when she felt threatened or was in a state of fear or didn’t have a place of safety where could be 100% herself (until her friends’ love and support). When she learned to accept and love the panda (a metaphor for intense/ “unacceptable” emotions), that’s when she was able to regulate herself. Fear, control, repression and shame is never the solution.
Sorry for the rant. There’s just so many important themes in this film and I just love it so much :)
I do appreciate the unfiltered honesty captured in a lot of the details, and I have heard several people express how accurately it captured snapshots of their adolescence, so I do credit the film for that... A lot of those details I missed watching, but noticed more while editing.
Oof, the lying part I still find tough to take. I do see your points, and I agree that a lot of rebellion is a knee-jerk response to parents being too controlling. I like Flynn Ryder's take: "That's part of growing up. A little rebellion, a little adventure, that's good, healthy even". Hiding some pictures you drew of your crush... c'mon, that's just part of growing up. Lying to your parents week after week and then going to a concert without any permission or supervision... I know I would have faced some serious punishment from my parents, and I personally feel I would have deserved it haha. Even if my parents were wrong or being unreasonable, I always had to speak to them respectfully... yelling or screaming just wasn't tolerated. I guess I'm just really grateful that my parents were strict, and that they didn't let me do what many other kids got to do because I always felt loved, and I knew even back then that they acted out of real a desire to see me grow/ succeed in life.
HOWEVER, that's just my experience. And I think you're absolutely right, Ming was acting far more from a place of projected fear than healthy parental concern. Ming DID cross some big boundaries (watching it at first, I thought the pads/ notebook scenes were mainly just humorous exaggerations, but I now think the writers meant it to be serious as well). And the pressure to be perfect, and the disappointment/ judgment when children inevitably can't live up to their parents' concept of "perfection"... I think this movie nailed it in that regard. Also, while I am happy now as an adult that my parents required me to do chores, work, and contribute to the family from a young age, I can relate to the "unfairness" felt when it's happening to a teenager, and I really like your point that parent-child relationships shouldn't be transactional.
I think it just goes to show that so much of what each of us gets from particular movies is dependent on our own upbringing and lives as much as the stories themselves. And it's really cool that this movie moved you, there's few things better in life than a taste of that resonant, powerful movie magic (one of the reasons I'm obsessed with the medium and would love to attempt it one day haha)
@@nickreacts6394 Thanks for sharing your thoughts Thor. A super interesting read as always. Regarding the lying…honestly, if I were a parent and my kid lied to me like Mei did, I’d be taking time to self-reflect on why my child felt they couldn’t trust me enough to tell the truth. I personally have a lot of faith in children because I do believe they are far more intuitive and intelligent than we give them credit for. They are not born rebellious. You and I seem to have had similar upbringings actually. Yelling, back chat and general disobedience was not tolerated in my house either but unlike yourself, I was kind of the black sheep in my family and so I did push back sometimes, much to my parent’s dismay haha. However, I did that because that was literally the only way I felt heard. I know now that they were strict because it’s all they knew and their intention was out of love too, although I suppose it comes down to perception. You took that approach as something valuable. For me, even if I pushed back at times, I certainly never did anything close to what Mei did in the film. I’d be dead meat for sure. But there lies my issue. I never really went against my parents out of fear of punishment and fear of disapproval. If I ever have kids of my own, maybe I’ll end up raising delinquents and I’ll be eating my words…but I do have a strong desire to raise my kids differently. I don’t want my kids to make decisions out of fear…I want to build trust, I want them to be unapologetically themselves, just like Mei was able to be with her friends (her safe place). I’d want them to make “good” decisions not because they feared me but because it was something that came naturally to them as a by product of being unconditionally loved.
And to your point about chores and general discipline, I am grateful that these were ingrained in me at a young age too but again, having reflected on my life I just don’t think the authoritarian approach was necessary. I remember being pretty perceptive as a kid and all I wanted was to feel seen so I just know if I felt seen as more than a “perfect” representative or just someone to be impressed upon, I would’ve have willingly done what my parents asked without resistance anyway. That’s all Mei-Mei wanted as well which is why her line in the toilet about being perfect for her mother and it still not being enough resonated so much with me. Anyway, gonna stop now before this turns into another novel haha :)
@@nickreacts6394 Being a little strict is fine, after all we all need some level of stability and discipline in our lives. It's great if you felt loved with this kind of parents.
I just think there's something very wrong about not caring of the real world dangers, like getting kidnapped, having your stuff stolen, someone getting too drunk, getting lost, being assaulted, seriously hurting someone, or loosing the trust of someone dear to you, and instead what's stopping you is "my parents will hurt me". Then it's just messed up.
@@naolucillerandom5280 I have to agree. Fearing punishment doesn’t really allow children to really think for themselves what actually is right and wrong. That’s why I’ve come to the conclusion that I’d prefer my kids to be “good” instead of just doing “the right thing.” Again it comes down to perception, but in my case, fearing my parents ingrained fear and shame into my subconscious (although they meant well). A lot of what they considered “right” and “wrong” I’ve had to unlearn and I was only able to discover my own thoughts later in life. It took me so long because like Mei, I didn’t want to lose the approval of my parents. In Asian families that’s a life long pressure…
How come so many people miss the date and don't realize it takes place in 2002?
Hah! I love the idea of 4-town going dark (post-pandapocalypse 2002, lol) 🤘🖤 😎
There’s a really strong stigma of being submissive towards Asian parents (or a child of an immigrant parent). It’s a toxic trait in a family itself.
Jin is into panda, on the down low. Jin noticed right away that Mei was not happy about the ceremony.
This is a basic coming-of-age story and a parallel of puberty, but Ming did explain explicitly that the panda is the focusing of emotion. Ming's panda was so large because of the enormity of the rage she suppressed. And, yes, the older women chose to continue their lifestyles of tight emotional control.
The sequence of Mei making her way to the concert was important. That showed her gaining supremacy over the panda, turning it into her superpower instead of an inconvenience.
Good reaction.
I don’t know what your career or educational goals are but I think you would make a good therapist. You seem very levelheaded and you have a calming persona.
The Mom's Red Panda is IMO a direct manifestation of how repressed she's been, & how much she's bottled up...
Oh, such perfect timing for this reaction I needed something to cheer me up! I adore this movie in a way I haven't felt about Pixar in a long while, it's just such a little gem of wholesomeness and relatability
It's very funny and also a little bit depressing watching reactioners ask what kind of mother would do things like that when the movie replicated personal experiences of ours with frightening accuracy though ahahah
I've never this excited about a commentary till now...amazing video as always...things I love about this animation are the moms storyline and that the animation happens in early 2000s...the friendship bracelet, the cd, boy band's being a huge thing and songs like bootylicious playing at the party were nice details that were nostalgic and brought back so much memories...sorry if the comment is so long...anyway...sending love from Iran🇮🇷 and can't wait for the next video...🤩😍❤❤❤💖💖💖
That's so kind, thank you! I agree, I thought the throwback/ nostalgia trip to the early 2000s was a nice touch (although I don't think I even picked up on it till more than halfway haha). And that's cool that Billie Eilish was involved, I'm not very familiar with her music (maybe one day for reactions?), but I do know she is one of the biggest pop stars currently, so a good choice to capture the appropriate energy/ tone for a fictional band
I love how the latest Disney movies (this and Encanto) talk more about the culture and transgenerational trauma
I think the lesson of "lying to your parents is wrong" was because the movie was focusing on the aspects of the relationship that would cause the lying in the first place. It's clear that Mei Mei wants her mother's approval, and any aspect of herself that didn't meet that approval was not up for discussion. Instead of talking about what feelings might have inspired her to draw in her journal, Ming's reaction led Mei Mei to believe that having those feelings were inherently wrong. When Ming asks if there's anything else to say in the car, of course Mei Mei would say no. The feelings are wrong and shouldn't exist, so there's nothing to say.
When the 4-town commercial comes on, Mei Mei is visibly excited, but as soon as Ming voices her disapproval, Mei Mei falls in line. She doesn't even admit to liking their music, attributing her knowledge of the band by hearsay from friends. It's insinuated that this happens often, as Ming thinks Mei Mei means Miriam and disparages her too.
Later on you mention that Mei Mei is living a double life with the panda, but she has been doing so already. The Mei Mei at home is not the same Mei Mei at school. I'm not saying a person can't be multifaceted or adapt to a situation, but it's common in teens (especially those raised in a different culture from their own family) to switch behaviors back and forth according to their environment. Selling panda merch and 4-town became something for her school friends. As soon as that mental rationalization is up, it becomes easy to separate.
I feel like people often get stuck on the "lying to your parents" when it comes to the panda and the concert, but the movie is well done in that it doesn't come out of nowhere. They establish that Mei Mei didn't feel that certain topics were safe to discuss with her mom without a large negative reaction. Yes, it's appropriate that Ming forbade her to go to the concert, especially when there was a possibility of literally turning into another creature. However, the discussion of why not was so short that there's no way it was healthy. What about things like "maybe you can go another time" or "I'm sorry it's too expensive for us right now" or "is there something else you want to do that might not be so dangerous" or even "there's no way you're going on your own, in coming and at the first sign of your panda we're leaving." (That last one is admittedly very generous.) Mother said no and the door of discussion was closed.
Should Mei Mei have lied to her parents? No. But the movie was focused on the relationship that led to her actions, and how even when you love your kids it's hard to notice when you're pushing them away from you. In fact, it's especially hard when you love each other, because instead of seeing your kid for who they are, you see the mask they wear around you that's engineered to make you happy. Mei Mei shouldn't have lied, but she shouldn't have felt like she had to.
Mei mei red panda mode is literally what I feel when I have periods but I learn how to endure it but there are times where it hurts af so this movie is seriously a masterpiece
14:21 - 14:27 Why does everyone *always* gloss over the fact she could have *KILLED* that boy?!?!?!😱😱😱
20:53 - 21:06 The Pocahontas Realm!😂
21:52 - 21:55 Yeah...quite LITERALLY!😨
23:49 - 23:51 This thing of having some object to keep the"demon"side under control reminds me so much of"Saiyuki"!🤩
Have you seen the post-credit scene with the dad???
Me and my mom noticed the first one XD
Nice reaction! I appreciated that you expressed nuance in your reaction and could criticize parts of the film while understanding the story’s nuance as well.
Thank you!
I can totally understand wanting the lesson to be learned about lying to her parents and being a dutifully daughter, but we have to remember that the movie started with her being only dutiful, with no freedoms whatsoever. She wasn’t allowed to go out with friends ever. “Every day” was cleaning day. She was 13 years old with an expected full time job after school and perfect grades. She had adult responsibilities with zero freedoms to rewards them. I’ve seen many people want her to learn her lesson for lying, but I truly believe that part was for parents to learn. I say this coming from the perspective of having 2 daughters myself, and having a very overbearing mom growing up. There were times I would have to lie and to this day I don’t believe I was doing something wrong. I’m a human being. It’s not right for parents to put their children in situations where they feel like they have to lie in order to have a life outside of duties and work. Her mom did ask more than what was fair. Once her mom learned how hard she was being on her, which led to Mei Mei being so hard on herself that she would eventually break, that’s when she started letting her go out with friends instead of work every once and awhile. You notice mei mei doesn’t have to change her appearance slightly before her mom sees her, she has a little bit of freedom with her own style in the end. Her mom even invites her friends over for dinner, when earlier in the movie her mom made it clear she didn’t want Mei to see her very best friend. When you see how Mei’s friends are a key factor in her mental health, and how her mom originally would blame and judge them, she would eventually have to lie about having friends as well. This is something I’ve experienced all too well.
I also want to add how hard it is for kids with strict parents to actually talk to their parents about those feelings. That’s why Ming’s giant panda is so fitting. That’s basically the battle those kids have to face when introducing to their parents new ideas. And it eventually leads to fights that don’t end well. You can see how much guilt Mei had after defeating her mom. She didn’t want to hurt her mom, she was just sick of being perfect. Which directly alludes to her mom as a child and how her grandmother got her scar. Except they never healed from the battle. Mei Mei however took initiative, which unfortunately some children have to do for their broken parents, and led her mom and herself away from that trauma and expectations. I love how she called the experience “growing pains” afterwards. It’s only one step in her and her mothers journey.
It's not a good relationship type
don’t take this the wrong way but this is the best analysis I’ve heard from a white guy about this movie. So many kept complaining about how they don’t “get it” and the animation is weird and that the movie is “too sexual” and never talked about the universal experience of growing up from child to adult. Your emotional intelligence was really refreshing.
Fun fact: Billie eilish and her brother Finneas had a hand in the boy bands music and Finneas voiced Jesse(blonde guy with the cap) and Jordan fisher voiced Robaire(the guy who almost touched Mei Meis hand 😂)
Omg I just finished it and saw this lol just adored it the red pandas all are so cute 🥰
Perfect timing!
I do think it's mandatory to have a boy band phase but I don't think it's always during childhood. I didn't have a boy band phase until I discovered BTS at the age of 22 lol
we dont really see it but when mei had her realization and took back the panda and went to the concert i like to think sun yee probably had a look of happiness or approval when it happened
We saw that at the end when Mei made the permanent decision to keep the panda.
The mood swings are real. Everything's in flux at that age for everyone. Emotions run wild, your body is doing crazy stuff and you just have no idea what's going on anymore. XD
It’a been a very long time since I was 13. But I still relate to this so much.
I'm a 70-year-old black man, and I still related to it. I adore this movie.
I think it has to do with tradtion vs changing the path. Especially deal with culture it is based. The culture is often all about the group/family but being Asian American she fount and fought for a balance between self and family
"I'm assuming she's gonna get turned into a cat"
Did you not even see the posters?
I absolutely loved your reaction.❤️
I don’t know, after twenty years of looking in the mirror at the physical scar left by your own daughter because you could not concede and let her follow her own path, I don’t think it’s such a stretch for the grandmother to make a different choice this time around. Especially with the daughter of that particular daughter. For me the turn around with the grandma made sense. It wasn’t like anybody was celebrating mei mei’s decision, just that they wouldn’t argue about it.
@thorreacts are we going to see a reaction to MIDSOMMAR ? also the pandemic made zoom filmed horror “Host” only an hour long but one of the best and filmed during lockdown by each actor separately. You had a good understanding of hereditary so in Midsommar it’s the same pagan cult worshipping a different of the 8 kings of hell. But beautifully filmed , the soundtrack and ambiance is unrivaled and beautiful. Love to see those 2 reactions from an appreciator of film.
We did Midsommar already! It’s on Domi’s channel :) right here: ruclips.net/video/iDbPHk9Yz68/видео.html
Rob the convenience store?? They're 13 y/o girls, Thor!
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Omg I am earlyyyyy
You are first :)
Early squad assemble! 😂
@@nickreacts6394 Fun fact:even when I arrive 1st in a video,I'm never the 1st to comment because I wait to _actually watch the video_ before commenting and,by the time I've finished,other people have arrived!;-P
6:03 😆 that’s definitely her disgusting 🤮 reaction to Jabba licking Leia on purpose. 6:22-6:29 mom, no! 13:07 🐱 13:18 except, she still have clothes without ripping out. 22:30 anime 23:25 headbutt 25:15 I’m glad you enjoyed turning red.
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well yes, but actually no
If you wanna see a really good animated recent release check out The Mitchells vs. the Machines
, and another really good not so new animated release Home.
Question. Since magic is clearly very real in that world, as are the gods (since it was one of them that 'blessed' the family with the power of transformation in the first place), wouldn't the smart and easy fix to everything be to just pray to that god again and ask them to remove the magic from the family, since it wasn't needed any more for the original purpose it was granted? Really seems like they were quick to gloss over the GODS' involvement in all this. Sun Yee was the ancestor that first received the magic. She wasn't the god who created it. So, yeah, all the 'inconveniences' the family experience were really their own fault. Mei really was completely blameless in all this.
Also, Tyler should have been mauled. The brat.
My friend was a huge 1D fan, I was not. I didn't have a boyband phase.