Battle: 2023 Toyota Crown Platinum vs Lexus ES 300h!
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- Опубликовано: 12 мар 2023
- Full comparison of 2023 Lexus ES 300h vs 2023 Toyota Crown Platinum. Which parts of which car do you like best?
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Who wins Between Crown and ES 300h? What parts of each car do you like? Thanks for watching AND Subscribing! Jeff
I want to see how the rear turn signals look for the crown l Crown.
Jeff, I hope the people of Kentucky and Japan don't take the results too personally. 😉
Doing a comparison then when a plane goes overhead you start talking about that!!!! So Bush League
ES hands-down, it's not even really a competition. Or the Avalon Limited, which was a far more sophisticated car than the Platinum Crown, for a lot (like 10k) less money.
@@deaconmichaeljoens8206 disagree
I pick the Crown. Love the unique modern design, better placement of the heated seats/wheel buttons, nicer wheels, the way Toyota has created a ‘pod effect’ for the driver and passenger. The winning factor is the AWD. We’ve ordered a Crown Limited in Heavy Metal.
Way to go Jeff! You’re a winner as well.
Mal
I have the 2024 crown XLE . I love this car. 1200 mile road trip went at 40mpg. It is the magnetic gray/black interior. .Price was less than the Lexus, without all the bells and whistles. Great car.
0:32 I’m watching this from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 and I wish everyone would have an amazing day
*I choose the Crown. The Crown has 120 hp more than the ES 300h.*
But the Crown still isn't really fast compared to Germans or other competitors and the lexus gets 45 MPG.
I would have loved the Crown if it came with a tailgate instead of a trunk. It looks like it would have a tailgate, and that would have made it so much more competitive against compact SUVs.
Yeah I'll wait for them to get one with a hatch installed next generation
Crown platinum all day long. The exterior on the crown and ease of dash functions and the awd/motor power. Lexus wins seat color
Crown all day long. So cool, unique, and rare. Lexus ES' are all over the place here in LA.
Wow! What a showdown, Jeff! This is awesome because the MSRP allow you to get either vehicle for about the same money. Good stuff!
Great review, I'm currently considering both of these!
Hi Jeff, thanks for the review. I’m watching you from Vicksburg, Mississippi.
I like the Crown Limited. When interest rates climb back down to reasonable levels I plan to buy one.
Monroe, LA here! I like the Crown too, but I'm sticking with my 2016 Avalon until the wheels fall off. I only have 80,000 miles on it.
Living in Tokyo I have an appreciation for the Crown lineup... I'm taking the Crown Platinum over the Lexus.
Loved the review! Subscribed! I'll wait for ES refresh to decide.
Toyota needs to give the Lexus more horsepower and all-wheel-drive.
The '25 ES will almost certainly have the same powertrains as the Crown, and you'll get your wish, but it will lose its best feature: the buttery V6.
G'Day Jeff, Watching you reviews here in Australia. Keep up the good work.
Watching from Boston, MA. Thanks, Jeff!
Jeff, I'm trying to work here and am distracted by your old skool rap. Luv it. Great plane editing, btw. Traded in our 2021 Venza and I just got the very first 2023 Limited Crown from the dealership out of the showroom up here. Let me tell you, people are heads turning like crazy and doing the slow walk in the parking lot. This car is hands down the best car I've ever purchased. The power is great and the styling for a $ jump from the move up from XLE to Limited is worth it, but not for another $16K for turbo to Platinum and bigger wheels for me.
This is just a sexy beast that works performance and style wise.
Good day Sir! I am watching from Altanta, GA. Keep up the good work!
I currently have an Avalon hybrid limited with 289000 miles. Picking up a crown limited next week. The AWD is the deciding factor for me as I live in Michigan and drive for work. I wish you would have mentioned how each rides. But I'm going with the Crown.
Are you on the original hybrid battery or has it been replaced.
Crown by a mile! Just test drove it today. So nice 😊
Thanks for comparison 👍
Of course!
I love Toyota but I have an ES350 now and my Toyotas are like old girlfriends. My Lexus is my new squeeze. Lexus is like riding on a magic carpet in style and comfort.
I have an Avalon and when I looked at the Crown at our auto show it seems like the seat position is higher like a crossover but you don't have the headroom of one. I feel like my Avalon limited with it's quilted leather seats and dark wood trim just look nicer. The Lexus is for me the pick of the two . I am hoping for AWD standard on it's redesign.
Watching from Kansas City. Thank you for comparing these two as I’m in the market for a car and considering one of them.
I’m glad to do it. I hope you like the one you were researching
Clicked for the thumbnail. Then noticed the video was great so kept watching :)
Thanks for reinforcing that a good thumbnail can at least be a door opener for people. I can’t wait until we get to finish our collaboration.
@@Toyotajeff wohoooo.
Crown looks newer but that doesn't magically make it better. Besides having the new IT factor, the crown is underwhelming. The lexus is still sleeker and way more luxurious looking
Have you seen the Crown in person or actuality?😢 No doubt the lexus is a lexus, but the crown is not far behind
@@kwasebi agree. I test drive with both and crown looks impressed me. Looks different than others and gorgeous. But driving experience is Lexus better than crown because of 21 inch wheels. 21 vs 18 makes big difference. But if we talk about exterior i can't compare them. Crown definitely better.
@@Tosabang nice 👌🏽 👍🏾
Watching from Australia, awesome review
I just bought a Crown Platinum (red/black) and I love love love it!!
WOW Congrats!!!
Thank you sir for doing this comparison..was hoping someone would. One of these 2 cars is what I’m about to buy here in Lafayette, LA. Starting to look like it’s going to be the Crown. My local dealer called last week..told me has a black Crown Limited w Advanced Tech Package coming in this week..exactly the configuration I would have wanted..maybe not the color..black wouldn’t be my first choice but might end up looking pretty good. I’m 66 years old w tricky knees..thinking 15 or 20 years from now, going to appreciate the ease of getting in and out of my car! Just hope the JBL stereo system doesn’t suck on this Crown..the M L stereo on the Lexus was probably my biggest factor of going with the Lexus.
We bought the Crown Platinum. We can use regular gas. We bought it because we are also older and wanted the height. Note: when you put the car into Park the drivers seat moves back to make it easier to ge out. When you push start it will move back up. The JBL system is not bad.
I would like to drive the crown in the platinum grade. Love the heavy metal color. I drove the limited grade, and honestly didn’t love it. Felt like I was in a Camry hearing the engine noise. I have an Avalon now. Now, if we can get what I’d be interested in purchasing in my area.
I like the Crown. I bought a new Prius XLE one month ago and love it. It’s really hard to get a new Toyota where I live now. I hope to trade my Prius in for a Crown in the next year or two.
I really enjoyed this comparison, as many others you have done before, like the various trims of the Avalon a couple years ago. Can you do a comparison between Avalon XLE/ Crown XLE or Avalon Limited / Crown Platinum? Not just the numbers (we can read those in the brochure), but actual look and feel, and quietness, drivability, and odds-and-ends that one car has and the other doesn't (Moonroof vs panoramic fixed roof, headlight features an quality, driving and parking assist systems, HUD, sound system quality). I think that would be really interesting.
Hi there and thank you for the compliments. That one would be a very good comparison. It might also be very tricky to do because Avalon is really hard to find these days. Maybe at a used lot? And crown we just don’t see that many of them. But I’ll try.
@@Toyotajeff Thanks. If I lived closer, I'd stop by with my Avalon (2022 XLE), but it's a bit too far to drive there from Massachusetts.
@@deaconmichaeljoens8206 just a long day drive :)
Thanks, for good reviews Jeff! I'm in Sweden driving my fourth Toyota Hybrid, a Camry (fantastic car). Before that, Auris, Prius and a Camry.
Hallah Got my ES300h last month and love it. It's the Ultra Luxury trim, which is what we wanted and is the highest trim for the ES hybrid.
It is the Cloudburst Gray exterior with Acorn color semi-aniline leather interior.
Total Installed Packages & Accessories:
1) Premium Triple-beam LED headlamps;
2) Smartacess Card Key;
3) Premium Paint;
4) Lexus Interface with 12.3-in Multimedia Touchscreen Display;
5) Ultra Luxury Package;
6) All weather floor liners and trunk mat;
7) Door edge film by 3M;
8) The Preferred Accessory Package; and
9) The Dealer added a 5-year windshield protection/replacement coverage package and tinted the driver and passenger windows.
More:
The three-projector design that creates an eye-catching L shape. Adding to this brilliant design, the headlamps feature LED side turn signals, as well as an Adaptive Front Lighting System6 that uses steering and speed sensors to direct the angle of low-beam illumination as the vehicle enters a curve. The Adaptive Front Lighting System monitors steering and speed with a suite of sensors and will automatically adjust the angle of your low-beam headlights to improve visibility on curved roads.
Ultra Luxury extras:
1) 18-inch split-five-spoke alloy noise-reduction wheels;
2) Power rear sunshade with manual rear-door sunshades;
3) Power open/close trunk with kick sensor;
4) 12.3-inch multimedia touchscreen display 10.2-inch Head-Up Display; and
5) Intuitive Parking Assist with Auto Braking and Rear Pedestrian Detection, and Panoramic View Monitor.
Averaging 43+ MPG City/Hwy driving and I had the oil and filter changed at 1,000 miles for my own peace of mind. Just For Reference: I was not going to wait one-year or 10,000 miles to have the factory installed oil & filter changed. And, I shall be changing the Oil (Liqui Moly 0W-16 Spec V) and Toyota filter every 5,000 miles from now on. Like Scotty Kilmer says, oil & filters are cheap, engines are expensive. LOL 😎
This guy has same reflex as me to plane 😂thanks for the review
Watching from Brisbane Australia, we love and need Crown.
Great review, Jeff! I have to pick the Lexus ES 300h over the Crown. But there's no way I'd choose that red interior and I don't feel comfortable about 19" wheels. The Crown has a lot of pluses but those insane 21" wheels are a deal breaker. There's no way I'd go with 20" or 21" rims, they look awful and sooner or later will be damaged by road hazards. In fact I wonder if the wheels could be downgraded to 19"? I guess I'd have to look at lower trim levels that have 19" rims. Oh, I'm out here in Idaho and have followed you for about five years, Jeff. Thanks and take care.
I agree with everything you've said. I'm hoping to pick up a Lexus in a year or so
Crown is supposed to be all about tech? Cannot even get a heads up display in it.
Watching from Ghana 🇬🇭 keep up the good job
Well here is my comments because I just purchased a Platinum Crown. We are an older couple that liked a little more luxury than the gas mileage.
1. It is Metalic Grey color and I did not like the design of biotone red / Black / Black matt or with gold instead of red. It just looks too busy and color separation looks weird. I like the black matte over semi metalic grey gloss.
2. Hybrid Max will be in the 2024 GRAND HIGHLANDER in its platinum trim model.
3. Camry, Avalon, Crown, Lexus 500h, Acura Tlx ... LEXUS???? YES, YES!! The Crown is more compared to me to the 500h but without the leather and additional $15k Price tag. The Crown looks semi cheap with the plastic in different places but adheres to everything else of an 500h. Obviously, this car is bigger than the camry, ioniq 5 and 6. Cant say it is bigger to the Grand Highlander 2024 model which uses the hybrid max too.
4. I am neither here nor there for gas. I was more directed to the adaptive suspension which the camry or other Crown trims do not have.
5. I love the TSS 3.O. The safety features are great.
6. The lights and 21 inch wheels are cool with the sunroof.
7. I bought my car with tax complete out the lot for $57k. $1500 below sticker.
Overall, it is everything I can expect from a Lexus 500h and Genesis GV80 but without the price tag. 😊
Got my ES 300H ULTRA IN JUNE, very very quiet. Enjoy everything about it. I traded my 2016 Jaguar XJ R Sport but I do think the interior of the Jag was a little nicer. I know the LEXUS long term will be more reliable.
Love the channel, Jeff…San Diego
Hi Ted! I’ll be in San Diego area in a couple weeks :)
I was driving my belovet VW Passat R36 with its low frond bumper towards the bank to withdraw all my cash, when a ES300 Hwith road presentation zoomed past me and accidentally crushed a pair of vise grips on the road. Despite the minor incidend, I continued on my journey, enjoying the scenic views and the feeling of the wind in my hair.
Thanks for reading my comment despite the fact it doesn’t have many likes.
Vancouver, BC, Canada! Love your reviews.
Greetings from Long Island, NY, Jeff...not too stretchy lol
How about the required grade of gasoline, Crown Platinum vs Lexus ES300h?
Both cars run on Regular gasoline.
The Crown is King Jeff!11
for my next car i need to focus on the front passenger seat comfort, how do they compare? seat cushion length (my wife and I are tall) and lumbar support? adjustments. also lexus engine and running noise vs the toyota, i hear the toyota mid level hybrid is NOISY and rough, what about the lexus engine roughness and noise?
New Toyota Crown does not have knee support in the seats
I am watching from Miami Florida and I love your videos and I love Toyota cars but it’s hard to choose
Jeff, This is a fascinating comparison. 🤔The ES wins on style but the Crown wins on capability. 🤩
I don’t know if anybody else has done a comparison of these two cars, so I was really excited about it
@@Toyotajeff I believe you are FIRST for Crown vs ES. How about a Toyota Crown vs Ford Crown Victoria?
Enjoyed your head-to-head review Jeff! I’ve tried both and was pleasantly surprised by the Crown - ride, features, and styling were all appealing. I was at Toyota for a Camry Sport test drive but snapped my neck when I saw a Crown and said “What is THAT?!” The Lexus 300h Sport was also a great ride, smoothest I’ve ever driven - probably a result of its suspension. One drawback to the Lexus is the pass-through door rather than seats that fold down, that was a disappointment and my ONLY negative. The biggest difference is the 300h is a Lexus, the Crown is still a Toyota. Although the Crown is a great addition to the Toyota lineup, it’s a well-appointed Toyota. The ES-300h is a luxury car and it feels like one. It depends what you’re in the market for, and I was after what the Lexus offers.
At similar price points and quality, one would begin to start looking at the cost of ownership over time. What are the auto insurance rate differences, maintenance costs, trade-in value after 5-7 years?
Great considerations as well - thanks Jeff!
I’m watching you from Saudi Arabia and thanks for the video man!
But honestly still im not sure what I chose
Crown here is totally different than in the us
May you do some vibration test? Does adding height makes the crown more wobbly?
Not wobbly, but it is likely to have more "head toss" -- more side-to-side motion conveyed to the occupants over bumps. It's an unavoidable result of a taller vehicle with a higher seating position, whether sedan, SUV or pickup truck. You're simply higher up, so when the vehicle changes its tilt, you move farther.
Watching from Aurora, Colorado!
Watching from Long Island, NY.
This dealer has a second rip off sticker. Do not pay this, find a dealer who will sell at MSRP.
Watching from Augusta Georgia ❤
Hiya Amanda!!
Do they have a household outlet?
Holding out for the Crown Signia Wagon.
Great for daily driver, long trips, and occasional camping.
Lexus name is bigger and better… but I don’t know why I am more attracted to Crown.. but when it cames to price they both are almost same so if I need to choose objectively Lexus is better choice for the longevity
The ES is the better car but the crown is easier to get into. Southern Ohio is where I’m at and I recommend if a person wants a crown get the XLE non turbo.
Watching the video from Oman
Keep the good work
From Singapore, where we have the most expensive cars in the world. We will not be getting the Crown as the price is pretty close to Lexus as told by my Toyota dealer, who is also the Lexus dealer.
Thanks for this video... Is this the same crown that produced in 70's and 80's? Bcoz the logo is different from those produced earlier...
The Toyota Crown name goes back to the early days of Toyota. 1950's i believe. We have not had one in the US in many decades but good to see the name back.
@@chuckmillirons6529 you should own one... Believe me you would never regret... It lasts for decades...
Do both models use premium gas ?
The Avalon is dead. The crown is next on the list. Hell no people gonna spend 55k for Toyota crown. It’s look horrible at the rear end.
Watching from Kampala Uganda
Watching from Raleigh NC
The Lexus design is kinda stale. The Crown just looks more modern. I'd take the Toyota tho, because every king needs a crown 🤴🏾
Crown looks so much better.
hard choice but id probably want to try the crown out; looks more bolder and masculine 😁
Lexus all day, better ride quality differentiate it from Toyota, yea the Crown is newer and all, but when going over bumps and road trips, it can’t beat Lexus
I love your energy in this video. I’m from Florida. The crown is a lovely vehicle, i been in one due to my cousin owning one. I personally am a Lexus enthusiast so I must pick the es😂
I have a '22 ES hybrid, this will be good...
i love this review
Can you do the 2023 KIA EV6 or GT VS. Toyota Crown
V good comparison, nice n detailed
I am desperately waiting for Grand highlander2024 detailed review because i am thinking to buy n if u can help me out with that.i lts great.
Grand Highlander is predicted out this summer, which could mean fall time. I’ve done several reviews of it on my ToyotaJeff Reviews channel here
FYI. - Grand Highlander is using the same MAX hybrid. Not sure there will be much difference to the crown other than maybe more weight.
Great interview,Jeff
fm Taiwan
Watching from Murrieta, Ca.
Watching from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia 🇲🇾
Thanks Jeff , Please ask Toyota to push back the head rest in their cars a bit. Seems they are doing them for hunchbacks!
I’m watching from Glynco, GA
I traded a 2020 Avalon Limited hybrid for a 23 ES350 Ultra Luxury. MSRP was$55380. Same money as a platinum Crown, which has no HUD, or power tilt/telescope wheel. I have driven a Crown. The Lexus interior is far superior to the Crown, and is much quieter. Also the Mark Levinson sound system, is heads and tails what’s in the Crown. Also Lexis warranty is longer than Toyota. To me, it was an easy choice. The Lexus.
What a bummer 😢. I am surprised the crown lacks the aforementioned. Quite ridiculous if you asked me
For Lexus, the F Sport would not be the one I would use to compare with the Crown. Lexus was not designed for performance. It is for luxury and comfort. If you want performance, buy a BMW, Benz or Audi. Turbos give you more things to break down over time, and a non-Hybrid Lexus (ES 350), while worse for gas mileage, is simpler and thus easier to maintain in the long run.
Hello...
I'm watching from Sweden!!!!👍👍👍👍
Hi Jeff, I am watching your video from Mexico city, I own the ES Lexus.
You failed to mention that there are differences in the Ultra luxury lexus 300h than that f sport. Also you cant compare the higher horespower crown to the Lexus hybris. Compare the crown limited to the es300h so it would be apples to apples.
I'm watching you from Orlando Florida. Hollaaaa......😂😂😂
Hollaaaaaa Abigail!!
From Taiwan 🇹🇼, Nice Video JEFF👍👍👍
I'm watching you from Houston TX
Haines,Alaska Jeff. All the best.
I'll take the Crown made by Lexus. I like the look of the Crown, AWD !, but the interior is bland. I don't much like the interior colors of the Lexus,either but the guts of the 300h (tech) works for me. ( like the HP of the Crown does.
Guess I want it all.
no driving impression?
I’m actually going to get a better deal on a ‘23 Lexus ES 350 Ultra Luxury with all options than I could get with the Crown since dealers are adding thousands of $$$ to the MSRP of the Crown while Lexus dealers are taking OFF $$$ from the MSRP of the ES models since they have plenty in stock.
Here in Northern California the trend seems to be to discount the ES 350 below MSRP (~$2.5K) and to adjust the ES 300h hybrid over MSRP (no adjustment to $4K adjustment). I have seen Crown adjustments from $5K to $10K over MSRP. That's just anecdotal evidence, not a reliable survey.
@@Myshcan yep. In the whole CA seems like hybrids are in high demand. I was not able to locate any Lexus NX hybrid base trim in north CA without markup or 6-9 months wait. Finally locate one in south CA with the exact color and trim, put a deposit in and reserved it, arriving in April. Family and I gonna fly down, take a short vacation and drive back. 😊
@@jml9550 Nice catch on the NX. In researching, it seems to be an excellent vehicle. I looked at one and they wanted a $7K markup. However, my wife had trouble getting in and out of it, so we went with the ES.
@@Myshcan Yeah got lucky on that S. Cal NX hybrid. I told the S. Cal salesperson that I will not pay a dime over MSRP nor any add ons, I was surprised that his manager agreed. Previously I already had a deposit with an N. cal dealer but the car is nowhere in site and the salesperson doesn’t even know when the next allocation is. Funny my wife is the opposite, she doesn’t like getting in and out of my 2017 ES350. Maybe she is used to her current 08 RX350, which will be my son’s first car once he gets his license in a few months.
@@jml9550 Good deal in these times to get one at MSRP. I also put in an order that didn't materialize and wound up buying out of town, but only an hour's drive away. Must be a fairly typical scenario these days. Anyway, as you demonstrated, it pays to shop around. Those cars at MSRP can be found.
Crown with hybrid MAX because, AWD and more power.
I'm watching your video from Taiwan ! 👍
SAUDI ARABIA 🇸🇦
Is there an option for either one for 4-way lumbar? I saw 2-way lumbar on these two vehicles.
ES Luxury and Ultra Luxury have 4-way lumbar on the driver's side, as well as a thigh extender.
@@tonysterbenc Thank goodness! I wonder how much more a car seat with 4-way lumbar is than the one with 2-way. I'd like to see way more vehicles with 4-way lumbar, at least for the driver.
Why is AWD so important to some people. I can understand if you live in the snow belt but in most of America it isn’t needed. In fact if you want to have a more sporty and fun car to drive , RWD is the way to go.
Watching in the UK
Is Toyota Crown Suv available in USA?
No not yet. Hopefully sometime soon
Howdy TJ, Tucson, Arizona
Howdy!!
Love the crown from Taiwan. The price range of the crowns is US$ 63K to 73K here.
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Worth mentioning that the Crown name is applied to 4 different cars. One of them, not sold here, is the expensively built successor to the old Lexus GS. The one sold here is made from cheaper parts.