You Should Be Furious With Paper Mario
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Remakes of any games from any developer is NOT going to be priced at budget price. People need to get over it. Plus, everyone has been asking for a remake of TTYD, and now we got it. Buy it and support the game and hopefully the series goes back to its traditional turn-based RPG roots, or stop asking for specific games to be remade.
Value and price are subjective and wait for a sale
So much censorship on this channel
You should try OF. Your content is 💩.
@@kevinramirez3134 Amen Brother, couldnt agree more
as an American I can confirm everything is overpriced, not just paper Mario.
Value and price are subjective
Video games really aren't overpriced. They've always cost around $60. If you adjust for inflation, new games are about half of what they cost in the 1990s.
N64 games used to cost $70-80 in 1996-1997.
I'm also from the U.S. and can confirm everything is overpriced right now.
@@nathanc6516 Carts were way more expensive to produce then discs or downloads. That said I can remember paying $50 for new Atari 2600 games several times back in the early 80s so you do have a point. That's well over $100 today.
Australians are paying $69aud (cheapest business cost)
Converted in GBP = 36.01
Converted in USD = $46.03
Yeah, that's not it's RRP though. It's RRP is $80
It doesn't look so bad when you look at that.
Converted in GBP: 41.69
Converted in USD: $53.10
@@Lucrei. makes me appreciate JBHifi much more when it knocks $10 off RRP. :)
I was in London when Super Mario Wonder came out and I was able to get it for 40 pounds. It was on sale, but Mario games almost NEVER go on sale in America on release day.
I rarely buy any game nowadays at the initial retail price. I wait for a sale or just buy a used copy for much less. I just don't have the urgency to buy new games when I have such a backlog of older games I have yet to play.
Yes even Nintendo games get decent sales. It just takes a bit longer and isn't as good as companies like Ubisoft. But I usually do the same as you
79.99 Canadian.
Hell nah! A remake should be 39.99us/49.99ca
100 dollars after tax basically here in Canada
Yeah it’s sad how expensive games are here, Alberta would be the cheapest place because the lack of PST.
@@dallasgrful wait for a sale
@@megamegaOValue and price are subjective
it's $4 for a medium fries from mcdonalds in some places in america
And people will blame corporate greed instead of government malfeasance.
@@Clyde-S-Wilcox Little bit of column A, little bit of column B.
@@fattiger6957 No.
Your comment didn't get deleted!
If you use the kiosk, at least here, you can get 2 medium fries for just $3 🤣
Nothing new from Nintendo, they removed tropical freeze from the Wii U shop before selling it at full price on switch, Nintendo knows who is willing to pay more.
Your comment didn't get deleted!
Sony does the same also but nobody ever says anything, just only when Nintendo does it.
@Adamtendo_player_1
False.
@@ChristopherJamesNeff So all the Last Of Us and Tomb Raider remakes are not real? You're playing the same game for full price again
@@Adamtendo_player_1 that is not true at all, people call out Sony all the time...
While i do feel like $60 is a bit much and it does suck that we're paying more than other countries, it definitely would have been too much for a simple port without any changes or graphical upgrades. At least it isn't $70 like a lot of newer games these days.
Don't worry, all games on Switch 2 will be $70, despite Nintendo 1st party games having significantly lower development budgets than other publishers.
That's not that much better. It's a remake a censored remake at that it shouldn't be more than 30-40 bucks at most
@@angelganon8213 I'm currently playing the remake of Super Mario RPG and definitely think that game should have been priced lower.
Nintendo doesn't have the excuse of their games costing a ton to make like other AAA publishers. Their games have significantly lower development costs than games that are priced the same, and that goes doubly for remakes like this.
@@angelganon8213idk about where u live but the alternative for where I am is $69 for the remake or $200 for the original
@@fattiger6957 don’t assume Switch 2 games will cost more than the current Switch although TOTK cost $70 £59.99 in the UK although on Amazon it costs only £44.99.
I'm not sure where you've been for the last while, but here in the UK 99% of the time a $60 game is usually £50 in the UK, not £60.
Your right, this is the first time, I've ever heard anyone think dollars and pounds equals the same thing.
The only switch games that are £60 are botw, smash ultimate and totk
It's still 60 Euros here in the EU.
@@MartKart8 Euros and Dollars are closer but still not the same and games here are still 60 Euros and Smash, BotW and TotK are 70 Euros.
@@jumentoqueanima I don't use Euros, I do get Euros are bigger numbers.
Ok, now I'm just in a very bad mood! I feel like screaming at my giant mario figure!
I don't remember when Lady Decade switched to ragebait
It's been so long
Yeah, I've... started to feel like that's becoming a bit of a thing, no? I honestly thought I could've been wrong but... apparently, not that much.
Call me crazy, but I always liked the original paper Mario on n64 as my favourite paper mario game
Facts I played TTYD when it came out for GC and it's great, but easy ASF. The original is better.
Can’t wait to pay $70 for Windwaker HD Switch Remix!
lol
Your comment didn't get deleted!
@@CommDantewith features locked behind an amiibo paywall.
@@CommDante yeah she deleted mines.
@@Tinbeef22 You do realise that RUclips filters comments and if it contains namecalling and insults then even I don't get to see them. It's against TOS and RUclips automatically shadowbans users who break those rules. They used to just put them in Held For Review but now they've tightened that up even more. So the answer is - think about what you're writing before you send it or you'll eventually end up shadowbanned.
1 dozen eggs went from $1 a dozen to $3. How about they adjust my paycheck for inflation? naw f u. same pay, 2-3x the price.
Biden's America
@@TheNightmare75II all us candidates:
old man
old man
everyone else (old men)
If they do, then the increase would mean nothing. What matters is not the numbers, it's the difference between what you have and what they have. They would be happy to drop it back at $1 if you accept to drop your paycheck by 50%. Imagine a world where we are all billionaires. Who would work for who ?
My Gamecube still works fine, I will just get that version. Checking E-Bay.... oh. nm.
Your comment didn't get deleted!
Well, good news for me, I still have my copy.
Should've gotten it before 2020. I paid $30 in 2018 for mine.
Yohoho and a bottle of run me harties. *wink*
Prices came back down.
I have the original on GameCube and it's just fine.
I don’t necessarily disagree with your perspective here personally I’m opting to support the release of this game with the intent of proving to Nintendo that this is the kind of Mario RPG that people really want to play, compared to past Paper Mario releases like Sticker Star and Color Splash. Whether that message will stick or not I can’t personally say, but one can hope.
in Canada we pay even more
Your comment didn't get deleted!
Yup 79.99 plus tax
I used to be proudly Canadian. Now I’m proudly looking elsewhere.
With conversion rates, it comes to the same as the US price
im am going to take a break from gaming im going fishing
Great choice!
Yup, I'll be playing Stardew Valley as well, great call
Not a bad choice! It may end up being a bit unfruitful, but it _is_ hella relaxing.
Be sure to buy the boat, tacklebox, and new lures DLC!
The only reasoning I can think of is that Nintendo knows its a beloved game and they can get away with selling it for more. Fans will pay full price. And the fact its a Mario game. Mario games typically sell. 60 dollars it is.
It is a full game. cant say that about newer games.
OK was a full game too though and it’s new.
It's a censored, downgraded, overpriced MESS and shouldn't have been made.
@@FreezyNinja what’s downgraded and yeah some stuff was censored but is that a big deal it was mostly small dialogue moments that didn’t impact the story right
@@leoscrymgeour5881 Wrong. Vivian was censored, Goombella was defanged, Dupree was hella Sanitized, the casino was censored and the list goes on.
The fps is worse, the pit is pointless now, and there are double standards everywhere.
That's not even all of it.
@@FreezyNinja how bad is the fps
Lady Decade is becoming Palapatine's new apprentice.
What are you talking about?
If Palpatine had nice legs and was sassy I would agree. 😉
Paper Mario: TTYD (Switch) isn’t a “rerelease” of the GCN original. It’s a total remake, built from the ground up using their current Paper Mario: The Origami King engine.
Yeah and the OK engine is shit. Your point?
@@ChristopherJamesNeff She’s undermining it by saying it’s a “rerelease”, instead of it being a remake built from scratch via The Origami King engine!
Nintendo’s remakes are the original term of the word: as near 1:1 (w/ QoL improvements, new additions, characters, levels, etc.) game, remade using new engine and graphics! While, Sony’s term for “remakes”, instead are truly reimaginings, reboots or re-remasters.
@@ChristopherJamesNeff FYI, The Origami King was a great game, and engine! (with said engine being perfect as a base for a ground up remake to TTYD)
This is still the same game relased on gamecube
Lady Decade, I subscribed because your videos are super cool!
It is misleading calling it a re-release though as it has never been on Switch before and it’s completely different graphics when compared to the GameCube version and not just in resolution. Hence why it is only 30 fps.
If it was an actual straight re-release it would be much lower resolution without all the extra detail added to scenes and run at 60 fps.
The game is currently 15 percent off on Amazon in Australia too. Or $68 Aus which is not too bad really and is equivalent to $45.31 US.
Well it is included in their voucher program, so you can get it for $50+ tax. I also think it’ll be $50 or less for the physical around Black Friday.
It's for sale for $69 aud in Australia and includes our 10% tax. That's only $45 usd
Idk y but all switch games here are really cheap
When Super Mario Bros. 3 was released in 1988, it cost about 50 or 60 USD. That would be over 100 bucks in today's money.
Relax, in Brasil is 60$, and the wage is over 300$
Average RUclips getting salty over anything
I'll sum this video up. Im out of topics to make videos about.
How is me noticing massive discrepancies in price me running out of content ideas? What planet are you on?
Lady Decade sure isn't not from planet Earth, that's for freaking sure.
@@LadyDecade AnimalPlanet™ - it's the only planet where the video topics are anything but finite. One day it's about zebras, the next it's black howler mating calls. Quite fanciful stuff to be sure.
America and Latin America games are really expensive specially for Nintendo games, and rarely the games get a price drop, is a common topic
Nintendo stopped doing price drops once the Wii came around and was a huge hit. I don't think there's a single Switch first party title that has ever gotten an official price drop. Not one. Maybe an occasional limited time digital sale for like $20 off, tops. But that's it.
@@N.i.E.M.O They actually stopped when they saw people continuing buying them at release prices more than 3 years after release and especially with people buying re-releases at an even higher price. I would be them that I'd do the same. We can only blame ourselves.
@1:45 I'm surprised you didn't point out that Metroid Prime was _also_ a AAA Gamecube title, re-released on the Switch, and was $40.
prime was a remaster not a remake tho. this is a full remake
I already am furious 😡
Fast too?
@@hichaelhighers I'm 2Furious
@@GlycerinZ2Fast
Your comment didn't get deleted!
I've pretty much prefer to pay 60 dollars for an 20 year old game remake than paying 100-200 to own it's original version :P
Or, y'know...
...you can go shopping at the ROM Depot, for the low, low price of _free!_
@@Mike14264 and for the low-low price of illegal
Looks like I’ll be importing my copy
1:57
Wow! Its only equivalent of around US$40 here in Australia. AND we normally pay MORE than the exhange rate price (due to global location and 10% tax). Thats wild
i loved that Nintendo transition LOL 12:38 🤣
It might be a supply and demand thing and doesn’t have as much to do with costs and taxes
Kinda weird it seems more of a MSRP though.... prices in USA for even groceries have been going through the roof. Bidencomics I guess?
You haven't seen anything yet. Prices are about to be $70 to match PS/Xbox.
And then they'll charge $80 for Zelda games.
@@N.i.E.M.Ogta 6 gonna be $100
Zelda
Tears of the Kingdom is $70
@@nicholasvaccaro4826 The question for that is will the initial game be much larger, instead of selling DLC right away.
@@douglasbriel6103 idk if they care about dlc the money is in gta online
Me who is enjoying the game: 😬
exactly
I'm actually coming back to this video after watching your follow up video. Good content!
No, I really shouldn’t
Greed in the US is insane right now.
10:00 Statics are not accurate considering minimum wages in the US depends on the state and there are a lot of states right now are under $11/hr. In most cases cost of living is between 60% to 80% higher than our income depending on if you own a home or rent a home.
Sadly as someone from the US I've gotten used to paying 60 dollars for games. Had no idea it was cheaper in the UK, Europe and Japan. 😂🤯
It's considerably better than the GC version, sorry/not sorry.
I've played both.
I loved the GC version, but the back-tracking in chapter 4 is utterly unbearable. That's apparently been fixed in the remake.
I'm also laughing at everybody crying about the FPS. I've played both versions. I *literally cannot* tell a single difference framerate-wise. Granted, I've never been able to see the difference between 30 and 60, anyway. But it hasn't affected the timing of the battles, that's for sure. I bought the remake, day one, because I want a return to the OG Paper Mario style gameplay.
There is a reason I don't preorder games, but it's not much to do with the price. I wouldn't mind paying $60 for a splendid remake of a game I love, but not if we're going to "modern audience" it. I still have my Gamecube copy and I'll stick with that.
Officially €60, but actually around €50 for the physical version due to shops selling it cheaper since the release. Including VAT 21%.
40 pound is € 47. That's cheap. However I noticed Amazon and other bigger seller drop their prices to € 50 the day after laucnh here as well. It was €55 before that. It seems either there are less copies sold then expected or they are competing heavily with each other.
Edit: This is why I buy my Switch games physical, unless they are online at least 50% on sale. It's almost always like this.
The 60usd is also before you add the local state sales tax. In Nevada you'd add an additional 8%.
protip: change your eshop zip code to alaska and every game will be Tax Free
And in Europe everything is overpriced too.
Astronomically expensive is normal for Switch games in Australia
Nintendo has surprisingly been 98% consistent on games costing anywhere from $40-$60 (depending on the game). Other companies meanwhile release in broken or even buggy states or even have battle passes or a load of Day 1 DLC and whatnot and demand $70 from players anyway.
Mainly because they just keep remaking the same mario games over and over again tho
@@Acidicstudios If that’s the case, name me every Mario game they remade a load of times over the years (not port or remastered, remade).
Nintendo knows it can squeeze a lot of money from its immature fanbase
@@panthekirb7561 Tell that to the other companies that are selling games for $70
@@AWMonopolyMan Imma just buy games on sale on steam like a boss
Lady Decade, you are forgetting that the yen is currently very "weak" compared to USD - that's why it's technically so cheap in japan ^^; If the value of yen were stronger ( as it sometimes is ) the difference would not be that big.
It's so strange to me cos I clearly remember her acknowledging Japans current economy state in one of her latest videos. I really suspect that real knowledge and facts from scripts are very far from each other.
@@MeretrixTricks I think she should stick to things she knows. I enjoy her retro gaming content, but economics? Gurl.
Im so over the Pricing on games in 2024. Never before did i consider buying only pre-owned, But i truly am.
Japan’s yen is extremely weak right now against the US dollar, so it appears cheaper in comparison to the US.
So it’s not actually?
@@ChristopherJamesNeffit’s not. Without that 18% discount, the game would be the same price as the US if the Japanese Yen wasn’t as weak as it is currently.
You make a good observation, but I think you have your terminology flipped. A weak Yen would require more of it to reach the same value. A strong Yen would push the price down, given it takes less of it. The Yen has gone from about 135 to 1 to about 155 to 1 over the last year. So yeah, it’s been weakening. This doesn’t account for the current discrepancy, it adds a double insult to it.
I am side eyeing the old pirate hat....
60 dollars is a bit steep, I still have my original GC copy but I have been loving playing through the Switch version. It looks so nice. I've literally put 20 hours on it already lol.
If you think that is outrageous, CEX are selling second hand copies for 40 quid!
The price is set at a level that will maximize the total expected revenue. To me it shows that switch new game sales have been sluggish in the UK, so they are using a lower price to at least move some copies. Also the Japanese example is thrown off by recent changes in the value of their currency, traditionally 5000 Yen is closer to $50. Since Nintendo games are a domestic product for them they don't have to pass along that changed exchange rate.
What if I imported the physical game from other countries selling it for less? Can I do that?
Also, $60 is the norm for Nintendo branded games. My guess is it’s to offset piracy.
Probably be difficult, due to US having high trade tarrifs when trading with most other countries and that's not even taking postal fees into account. Buying games directly from the US for us has always been expensive, despite retail prices over there being traditionally cheaper.
I couldn’t give a damn, Nintendo Live is finally coming to my country in Sydney Australia!
$79.99 + 15% in Canada. Nintendo hasn't respected its customers for years now. Some day their arrogance will bite them
They will always have their legion of fanboys that will defend them no matter what and buy everything they release, no matter how overpriced it is.
@@N.i.E.M.O I love Nintendos IPs, always have and always will but the ones who make the decisions at Nintendo are a-holes. I bought the last two Zelda games new but that's it, everything else was bargain bin, big sale or used. There's very few games I'm willing to pay full price for on any console.
@paul56419
No such thing as bargain bin or sales when it comes to Nintendo.
Everything stays at full price forever!
Shhhhh don’t tell em!
I wish it was only $60. I am in Canada so it is $80 CDN for a triple A game. I got it for the Mrs for her birthday and I got it at GameStop so it was $84 cause they tacked on their ridiculous extended warranty and then 15% sales tax for our part of the country. The grand total was $96.60 CDN so this is the reason we don’t buy a lot of brand new games.
If you compare Japanese and American’s monthly pay, the Japanese are paying $70.60 instead. Using this same method of comparison Britain is paying $42.80. It seems the more popular Nintendo is in a certain country or territory, the more they are charging for this game.
I’ve never played it, but I know American audiences have been buzzing about this release for years. Maybe the demand is higher in the US than other regions? Either way, I’ll be waiting for $30. Don’t care how long. It’ll be shelved for any consideration until then.
*_"What a way to run a railroad."_* 🤦♂️
I know that’s makes sense but. What about that your thoughts about Paper Mario TTYD remake after you playing this game?
Within the past few years, ive limited the amount of games i buy by over 90%. even games id probably enjoy i wont buy because of the prices and practices by these companies. i spend more times on games i already own and often wait for a sale on something im interested in. its a sad time for gaming.
First off, I love your channel, and secondly what really ticked many Americans off concerning the Switch version of Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, was what I call the phantom cancellations of online preorders.
To illustrate, imagine Lady Decade, you live somewhere which lacks any gaming retail stores, so your only option is to preorder it online. However, if the game you desire is highly popular, you have to contend with the scalpers who will implement bots to snatch up all the preorders, thus when the game comes out, they force you to pay double or triple the price of the game's retail value.
This is exactly what happened when the Big 'N' foolishly decided to make the special edition of Xenoblade Chronicles 3, which had an art book. The scalpers did not hesitate into causing Nintendo to sell out of their preorders, but prevented others from genuinely preordering the title. However, as fate would have it, because Nintendo swapped XC3 with Splatoon 3's release date, the scalpers were left high and dry, since the game itself came out in June, but the special edition goodies came out in September. Meaning customers were not going to purchase the art book and other items, since they already had the game itself.
Yet, I digress, imagine because of this fiasco, when Nintendo heard their online preorders had instantly sold out moments after they announced this title's release date. Fearing the worst, where scalpers would seize all the preorders, then sell the title at outrageous prices, either on Amazon or eBay, they had immediately cancelled all preorders of said title.
Then adding if they want this title, they would have to go to a local game retailers, in person, and preorder the physical copy. For many of us here in the States, this was indeed frustrating, since the only way to purchase the title online was to wait for it to come out on release date. Meaning many fans were SOL in preordering the title online, and some were furious, since the only local game store in their area is miles away from their home.
Though Nintendo claims they did this to stop scalpers from hoarding the game and reselling it at outrageous prices, all it really did was frustrate and anger many customers wanting to purchase the title itself.
In Italy costs 60 euros
Okay... you had me in the beginning until you mentioned the pricing elsewhere. You are right: I SHOULD be angry, but seeing as how every US gaming company pushes this $60+ standard for games, it's yet another thing that that makes me scoff at the place I call home... just shameless greed.
I was almost certain this was about 30fps 😅
Just wait till Christmas and the price will be probably lower unless Nintendo decides to put the price to the same as the switch then nobody will want it .
I'm Canadian and its 80 dollars out here for a physical copy not counting taxes and shipping 😑
I just bought it in Japan and I believe it coverts to being $44. All games are much cheaper in Japan. I brought it home to the US. Works fine in English.
Why is the square not on the box was it not made but final fantasy people or was it RPG ?
Paper Mario is a GameCube remake and shouldn't cost the same as a new game.
except its remade from 0 so yes
@@LetsPlayNintendoITA2023 They didn't spend money on designing it a second time which were half the budget.
Nintendo offers game vouchers. You pay 100$ and you get two eligible games. It can save you 10 or 20 dollars.
Physical
Paper Mario™: The Thousand-Year Door
$79.99
Canada
You think $60 for a game is bad wait 20 years when it becomes a retro game. By 2044 Zelda BoTw sealed and graded 9 and up gunna be going for $25,000 easy guaranteed
I'm pretty much at a point where I will only buy games when they are discounted. I can remember growing up in the uk years ago when a decent video game in the micro era cost around 8-10 UK Pounds
The micro era was garbage with developers like Tiertex making millions from lousy arcade ports but hey they cost less money right? Meanwhile as a Mega Drive owner I was laughing at UK computer game players 🤣🤣
Nintendo games never have discounts though.
Corporate greed is our problem in America and unfortunately they like to keep the public confused as to the reason they keep raising their prices. Take gas prices for instance, our federal tax rate for gas is is under 20¢ per gallon (hasn't changed since 1993) but yet our gas prices are around $3.50 per gallon. So gas companies get roughly $3.30 per gallon. Cost estimates of gas production are between 30¢-70¢ per gallon. So the way I see it is that at 3.50 a gallon minus tax and production costs, the top brass at our oil companies get to pocket around $3.00 per gallon. All the while they pay media companies loads of money to promote the narrative that inflation and taxes are the reason gas prices are on the rise. Nintendo are just following the example set by our oil companies and really all of corporate America. Is it really any different in the U.K.?
Im just saying $60 of a remaster is better than buying a $100 dollar version of the original game. And that’s if you have a gamecube. Walmart is selling the original game for $150 meaning if you dont have a GameCube and wanna play the original version on original hardware its gonna cost you somewhere around $200
Any censorship is bad 👎
censorship is different than removing direct insults.
The Yen is also very weak at the moment.
Oh that reminds me, if you don't want to pay 60 usd you can go with bug fables which i consider to be a spiritual success to pmttyd for only 20 usd
Nintendo often gets treated like they are absolute saints that can do not wrong. But Nintendo has a very long history of greed via nickel and diming their customers over the most petty of things. How about how Nintendo has kept their 1st party games at release price ever since the Switch launched. How about how the New 3DS didn't come with an AC adaptor.
I haven't gotten this game yet, but I understand the criticism over the price. I'm currently playing the Super Mario RPG remake and, while I am enjoying it, I don't think it justifies the full AAA price. The game looks and plays at the level of mid-budget AA games which tend to be priced less than AAA games. I can understand why a AAA game that costs $100M to develop (which is a problem it of itself) costs full price, but games that cost much less to develop should be priced accordingly.
This story is even more egregious since the regional price difference is ridiculous. But Nintendo will get away with this because the Switch is hot among casuals and the hardcore gamers are so obsessed with the console war or the culture war that they will just say "Well, at least Nintendo isn't Sony or Microsoft!"
5000 yen is their equivalent to $50. How their money Works is that they basically don't have cents, so they don't go from ¢99 $1, but from ¥99 to ¥100.
They make the games so they adjust that to their economy, but I'm pretty sure outside Japan they use the Dollar as default, so it shouldn't be that far off from other 1st world countries.
Steller blade is $89 pre owned or $98 new and paper mario is $79 new here in Australia
I live in the US, and I just bought the physical version off eBay earlier today for just shy of 50 dollars. It's certainly still a little high considering it's a remaster of a GameCube game, but I don't think it's TOO bad. After all, this isn't just any GameCube game we're talking about. I would make the same argument for Super Mario RPG. I think there are bigger problems with gaming these days then the prices of these particular games, but I will refrain from going down that rabbit hole and making this a ridiculously long post.
Thank you Dolphin🥰🥰
Nintendo prices are cheap here in Australia all their games are $45 usd brand new here but on other consoles AAA games are like $85 usd
Physical games on large retailers in Finland are often very cheap, 10-20€ less than the digital versions, it's crazy.
Personally I almost always try to find some kind of discount. I very rarely will pay full price for games anymore.
Nintendo has always been a money first and fans second or even third.
I can't think about Paper Mario without thinking about the Flashgitz parody.