25 More Little Changes Between Paper Mario TTYD and the Original! (Part 2)
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In chapter 4, if you play as Shadow Mario and visit the Battle Master, he refers to you as "nameless Frank."
Also, while playing as Shadow Mario, Vivian gives you the hint when you press the hint button, in place of Goombella.
@@NipplesTheEnchilada2323Yeah, all the partners can give in the hints depending on the area (like if their abilities are required)
Here’s 2. In chapter 4 in the original when you become a shadow. Mario will still make noise while the remake Mario is fully muted. Another is when Doopliss fully takes over your body if you managed to wear wario clothes in the original doopliss will just wear Mario normal red shirt and blue overall while the remake Doopliss will actually wear wario’s clothing
You’re right! I noticed Shadow Mario is muted in the remake after his name’s stolen which makes more sense! Love that change
@@rayyt5566Same!
He's literally going for story order and not even gotten into Hooktail's castle, not even done with chapter 1 yet.
I’m about to get to chapter 4 and I am stoked that he copies your clothes now! I always wear the W emblem as soon as I can get it.
The NPCs even in the town even compliment his "yellow and purple outfit".
I do love the added voices, it makes it sound like that from Banjo-Kazooie
You forgot to mention that when the major bosses are defeated, they can also give out a huge coin reward. The Blooper gives out 50, while other bosses give out 100
Idk if anyone else noticed it in the beginning of the game. But when Luigi takes the peaches letter inside there's a small portrait of Mario's old partners from paper Mario.
Don't know if mentioned already, but you go down into pipes a little when on top, and press A to enter.
In the original, you were standing on top of them and pressed down to enter.
This change allows you to walk down from pipes without accidentally entering them.
I like that change, they've been doing that since Color Splash.
If you go back to Koops’ house after beating Hooktail, the photo upstairs gets updated to feature Koops as well
I really wish that they recreate the original paper Mario on the n64 on the switch2 then it will be perfect
They have the og on the emulator so they probably wouldn’t do it tbh
They got a bunch of the character animations already made. So they can easily make it. I hope they do.
Same, I hope they'll do it.
Super Paper Mario is probably next or a Paper Mario 7
They remade TTYD because not only was it highly requested, but it wasn't on the Virtual consoles like PM64 and SPM were. Nobody had a way to replay TTYD unless they either bought the inflated prices of the original disc or illegally download it. Good thing I never sold mine.
Fun fact, if Mario dies in battle the party members will be surprised on his faint.
No more hand salutes with outstretched diagonal arm animation for Mario; it has been replaced with a thumbs up
Another thing to note too is, when u get mugged in the beginning, if you talk to the first npc that you see when going back to find the bandit, THAT npc will tell you that you got mugged and tells you were he ran off to. He says it in a funny way too, "looks like you just got the rougeport greeting done to ya" or something along those lines.
Oh, I was not aware of this. I'll have to have a chat with the guy if I get around to replaying this remake.
playing the original paper mario theme at the beginning of the house sequence is so good for two reasons
1. It musically is telling the player that its a continuation from the first game
2. Its a nice nod to the first game since that same parakarry was actually one of mario’s party members from the first game
Every character now has an unique voice when talking.
another actually kinda major change I've found in the remake is Super Hammer(Field ability) and Spin Jump(Field ability) are actually pretty nerfed.
in the original w/Super Hammer, you could do the "Slow Swing" ie just do one twist to break big blocks and get the super hammer attack on a 1st strike in battle. in the remake, you have to fully do the rotation to break big blocks and get a Super Hammer 1st strike.🤔 and that's not to mention it having "real physics" in the remake(valid) where it will collide w/walls.
even if you do a slow swing on an enemy, it for some strange reason in the remake, comes out as normal hammer 1st strike when its supposed to be "Super Hammer", in the original you would always get a Super Hammer 1st strike no matter how much you rotated. you can also see the hitbox's wonky cuz it don't hit floating enemies like Wizzerds, Lakitus or puffs as easily
Spin Jump's hitbox's very scuffed in the remake, cuz in the og, you could spin jump literally everything, esp lakitus/puffs, and if you did a spin jump but the game displayed(before battle) as mario doing a "Normal Jump", as long as you did it right in the original ttyd, that was classified as a spin jump 1st strike.
in the remake, strangely the hitbox's even wonkier, you legit just get dragged into battle before spin-jump ever lands, while in the og it just worked all the time. 🤔 these field abilities are most deff nerfed from the original
people also deff noticed that Power Bounce+Multibonk's been drastically nerfed, cuz the "WONDERFUL!" bounce is 1 frame, which's pretty crazy
Oh, wow... I've seen a fair share of disappointing changes, but the ones you describe sound particularly nasty. While the remake has good advantages, the original isn't going anywhere anytime soon!
"lady friend" bro thats his wife, his late wife.
If you get a game over, it gives you the option to try again from the last scene
Interesting. Say if you got a game over against the final boss on the second phase, do you have to watch everything again or can you just start from phase 2?
@@Rosegirl398 yes
@@Tablmationthat was two questions
@@TablmationYes to which question? What yes?
@@platinumanalogyyes
I love how a lot of the music in the game sneaks in the theme from the opening. Very nice touch!
If you try to fall of a ledge or into water, mario has animations unique to both incidents.
It's a really charming visual! Just one of the nice touches and beneficial changes introduced by the remake!
Do you still take damage from falling in ledges/ water? I heard in the remake that there's safe guarding from the Modern games to prevent the player from accidentally falling in water.
@@jeremyknight9980 I'm not interested in intentionally falling in the water, so I'd rather not test this. if it happens, I'll remember to let you know.
@@jeremyknight9980 Okay, I accidentally fell into the water on the way back the Rogueport and Nibbles got me. Despite the animation being different, the function is generally identical.
@@e-mananimates2274 Thanks, I got the game yesterday and I love that they give you warnings that you are on the edge, especially platforms, stuff like that and audio cues are important to me as a visually impaired player.
I wish they remake super paper Mario for the switch and it will be my dream come true
The mailbox SP no longer has any animations. It's simply just a menu now.
@Nin10doland In the remake, after you get a game over, the game gives you three choices.
1. Retry the last scene.
2. Restart from your last save.
3. Return to the title screen.
In the original, returning to the title screen was all the game ever did after you got a game over.
64’s title theme’s about the same as its file select theme, which is closer to Parakarry’s theme by the whistling. Also, the 3 have the leitmotif from SMW’s ground theme. Also, 5:16 a new settings tab was added.
Instead of hiding Hooktail’s gender until Gloomtail reveals it in Chapter 8, everyone knows Hooktail is a girl from the beginning
I found the ambiguity of that aspect up Hooktail very interesting, especially when Gloomtail exposes the twist.
They also fixed Bonetails Gender in the remake, in the original English release, Bonetail is referred to as male while anywhere, mainly the Japan and European releases Bonetail is referred to as female, the remake reflects the Japanese version of the game
In Chapter 2, there is a guy in front of the Great Tree who sells shop items that wasn't there in the original.
Minor one, but you fall differently in high places. It used to be that if you jumped your momentum would carry you in whatever direction and you could adjust slightly. Now however though, whenever you jump down enough from an especially high place Mario ends up dropping down completely straight.
I love ur vids ur one of my favorite youtubers ever thanks for ur content
I will say I miss being able to search the bushes manually. It gets pretty disorienting as you progress through the game, especially since some objects don't look like you could easily interact with them, such as the garden in front of Kroop's house. You'll only know if you are either diligent with hitting objects with your hammer or you have a hint from somewhere in the game. For the case of Kroop's garden, you have to complete Kroop's trouble to even be aware of this now (or at least that's what I'm assuming based on my memory from the original game without trying the new version of the side quest). Making the situation more frustrating, you could both smack and even manually interact with the pillars on the way to Shhwonk Fortress. To engage with the fights, you are only allowed interact with the pillars, which makes the removal of checking the bushes even more baffling.
A Change that I wish they Made was bring back the Spin Move and it's associated Badges from 64 that were Cut in the OG Version.
I never really played the original so I'm really excited for this
The two Goombella changes, the catcalling and the thief, harm her characterization. She clearly didn't like being catcalled, and her and Mario beating up those Goombas show that she can take care of herself. And Goombella not noticing that Mario just got mugged shows that she's naive and is not observant. Those two changes take away her sass and street smarts and instead make her look less competent. It also sanitizes a game that had a nice paper edge to it.
She IS a schoolar only visiting. I wouldn't expect her to have ultra street smarts, nor would i expect the goombas to even know her.
Besides, the coins getting stolen is way clearer now, with the ui and all.
So... are we just gonna forget all of the other times she's been observant? For instance, not even including dialogue: Literally EVERY time she Tattles an enemy in the game? The mechanic that requires you to be observant?
That OG Paper Mario Title remix plays again when you speak to a certain character who only appears post-story.
5:39 I've watched Part 1 and now this video waiting for this comment about the grass. I KNEW this was different!
Anyone notice Mario doesn't stand on his toes and have his hat bump when idle in the remake?
How many of these videos are you going to make? I’m really enjoying them, but I’m just curious.
I’m guessing 12~ given how long the game is and how the first few have gone.
I just like the extra level of interactivity with the environment
I like how some of the mechanics and knacks come from the oragami king, i loved that game
For the map how do I travel from one point to another in paper Mario a thousand year door remake?
You're a natural on camera, keep shining!
Me getting an advertisement for this game in the middle.
Some dialogue modifed. For example before chapter 6 begins, when you get francesca and frankie from keelhaul island, during their arguement for the wedding ring in the original frankie says “fine you crazy dame”
While in the remake he says “fine you dizzy dame”
A good change because they realized that if you say something like that, a woman would not take that lightly
hey nintendoland that white flash and shock sounds reminds me of the final hit and kill of bosses in final fantasy 6
I wish that they had a unlockable Shadow Mario badge.
The big thing I desperately need to know is if the partners have been changed mechanically in battle such as Miss mowz or flurry getting a bath
1:55 It is bad because this version make GOOMBELLA look like the Bad Guy.
It is also cheesy dialogue
You know, I never thought of it that way. I miss the original because it painted the Goomba trio in an antagonistic spotlight and it gave Goombella some more heroic punch to her character. If you are saying the new dialog puts Goombella in the wrong, then I'm interested in your explanation!
Does it? If some random guys came up to me and insulted me for being a filthy clean air breathing surface-dweller I'd also be pretty upset and confrontational with them. They started it.
Yes a new video
DONT COMMENT UNTIL U WATCHED THE WHOLE VIDEO
apparently the timing for infinite power bounce was made way harder
4:38, who plays and doesn’t put any levels towards BP??
Im looking forward to seeing more differences in the game, I imagine they got rid of that Hooktail dialogue xD
Original audience cheering remake no audience cheering.
Here’s one. Mario and his partner will strike a pose signifying they are guarding or Superguarding for the duration of the time they are guarding or Superguarding.
Something I noticed with the intro. When you initially start up the game it just immediately goes to the title screen and when you start a new game it shows you the storybook intro. Then any subsequent time you load up the game it will give you the storybook intro like it did in the Gamecube version.
Also the dialogue is noticeably different in the storybook between Peach and the mysterious stranger.
SPOILERS
In the Switch version its more obvious that the cloaked figure is actually Beldam
i'm curious if the game crashes when mario enters petalburg depending on his last interaction like in the original...
The sound notification when receiving an email is literally a Pokémon theme
@6:49 I wonder if he was the one who wrote about getting ripped off with the 3 out of focus pictures in the original Paper Mario...
I wish the cat call was still there lol
There’s an NPC in pettleburg that creeps on Goombella if you’re looking for a self insert
@@davismorgan99 I seen that lmao 😂
@davismorgan7955 “Self insert"? My guy, what are you going on about? 😂
@@davismorgan99 I'm a bit confused by the "self insert" comment myself. What do you mean?
One thing I do miss from the original is the little scream the audience members make when hit
riding yoshi is significantly faster than the original and the title screen updates as you progress the story adding your companions and other characters as you get/interact with them. Also luigi has a new theme song which seems more fleshed out which makes me wonder if theyre thinking about a paper luigi game based of his stories he tells about the compass and princess eclair.
I hope not because luigi's story is supposed to be made up and in reality it was boring like the partners said.
I think it'd be good if the story stayed in ttyd
@@mightnare3237 you’re right as I’m playing through it rn his story isn’t as compelling as i remember, and im in chapter 6 rn and he only mentions fighting one boss so far. but i would love to see a paper Luigi game with the premise of Luigi on this grand quest but he’s just a bumbling goof that is wreaking havoc with his clumsiness as he try’s to save the day. Also I think the waffle kingdom sounds interesting. I would like to actually see it.
I wish that you would show some of the original footage for comparison.
im an ai that was memory wiped after it all went bad, just like dangronpa 2, became a despair, but now im back and ready to be myself
I don’t know if this is new, but after deafeating the paparazzi around Rawk Hawk, he yells at you for sending them off.
So basically if origamy king had the same battle system as the thousand year door it would've been on of the best games of paper mario
with chapter 6 and the shop in the train you can farm coins usuing gold bars with a 20 coin profit per gold bar. same for 3 gold bars but its still a 20 coin profit so its more effective buying single bars. sure tedious but it is better then like 2 coins per item.
no signs on doors the GCN version just looks like a beta now
There are so many positive changes in this remake, it makes me happy BUT the little niggles like battles taking longer hold it back. If they patch this game it will be perfect
once again, algorithm !!!
That’s not a it works
"There will be a link down below to part one"
*looks down below
There's no link...
cool
Very cool game.
So when , will the paper Mario, be ready , for purchase..any idea..?
Hopefully SPM and the original get the same remake treatment. Super Paper Mario has the best story, but TTYD is still the best and SPM is the 2nd best for me
2:00 That change seemed unnecessary to me, it makes more sense for Goombas to hit on a good looking Gomba.
Also they removed Goombellas attitude for that moment.
Theres too many videos
Goombella's tattle thing not being a book is dumb because the animation and graphic is literally a book...Unnecessary changes.
Doesn't matter to me if it just looks better and more polished, which it does.
That's the great thing about games, not everything has to make sense like irl, it just has to work and work well.
I always loved the cat-calling scene because it was hysterical. Shame on Nintendo for changing that. They think we're all pathetic, overly-offended children. The WORST thing that could have happened is some blue-haired loudmouth would scream and cry on Twitter and the rest of the nation would have bought it just to spite the loudmouth. See Hogwarts Legacy and Stellar Blade.
Exactly
The folks with little to no subscribers and videos greatly prefer the Goomba censorship. Make of that what you will.
@@e-mananimates2274 it a fact that pm ttyd remake is DEI woke. They remove diolouge like lunatics when she says ha like I go anywhere with smelly lunatics like you like why change it
From what I hear the weirdo who made some of these changes will probably be fired if they haven't already.
I saw this online I don't know if it is substantiated or not but apparently every 5 years or so NoJ has to clean up NoA because it gets ruined by these activists. If it IS true it is definitely time for some cleaning.
Censorship is never a good change, so it's okay to get rid of the Goombella part and yet they keep the part where Flurrie assaults Mario when they first meet.
I know you’re not actually offended that Mario got “assaulted”
There’s an NPC that creeps on Goombella in pettleburg if you’re really looking for a self insert. My guess is that you wouldn’t have minded if they censored Vivian’s story…
I honestly hate it because I think Goombella then beating them is very poetic
@davismorgan7955 that is a horrible comparison blud. We love Vivian as a transgender girl. You very weird in mentioning her next to the cat calling trick. Don’t put my girl in your comment ever again. 😂
I think censorship is a good change as long as it applies to all situations. Honestly I was shocked they left in flurrie kissing Mario after he visually says No. that’s 100% physical assault where a cat call is verbal assault
audience system removal guide please
Poison mushroom bingo
The original is way better. Don't know why they changed it.
To make it better.
Sorry to tell you the truth.
In chapter two there’s a new shop in the big tree where you can buy items.
The shop was already in the original.
@@fneifneox64 oh I didn't know that. I must have missed it before, I didn't remember it being there.
Na you are wrong
34th
(Spoiler like kinda chapter by 3)
found somthink new
in chaper 3 kina you get level 10 than you unlock maby the secret
befor star found that anti guys are back as camo on the 2 stage thex fiy stuf or cary or kooper fraind away whan he is flip to use the 2 star power earthquake 1 anti guy carries him away until the atack is done
Ui
don’t comment until you’ve watched the whole video
@@nealandjuliejohnson9642 I DID UNLIKE U BOT
@@nealandjuliejohnson9642 BYE TRAITOR BOT
First
NOT BOT
I hate in ttyd the flip to the other side it black out and rotates it stupid
Your playlist is severely out of order.
9 minute video. First 1 minute and 15 seconds wasted on a self plug/intro.
Just do 1:1 remakes, why revise so much in terms of gameplay and scripting?
Because better things are inherently better
cope
If it was an exactly 1:1 remake, people would say "there is nothing different, why should i bother paying for this?"
But if you also make the remake too much different from the original (e.g. FF7 Rebirth) people would also complain because it's not faithful nor does feel the same game anymore
That's why nintendo go in a between, make the game similar enough from the original to keep the feel of playing the same game, but also make it different to they won't look like they are reclying things and selling the same game for full price
They really don’t revise much and there were some TERRIBLE choices in the original. Chapter four made me not want to play the game before same with chapter 7. Cutting down on wasting the players is a good thing.
@@GameCatastrophe I reckon I'm not getting my thoughts across well per norm, basically why keep doing Link's awakening (switch) and not do Link's awakening DX in terms of remakes/remasters. Add but only lightly touch the original content? Or even SMRPG switch vs SNES it changes things but doesn't completely flip everything
difference: the og game is better
You never played the og if you trying to tell me the remake is worse than the OG
Cuz the remake made the game less annyoing with Backtracking being the worst part of ttyd
@@BowserEditz 30 fps
@@redomeganot even that stable 60 fps in the original. Plus, it’s really not that noticeable and I’m a stickler for frame rate.
@@redomega
1. The og wasn't Even stable 60fps
2. if that's the only reason why you say the og game is better your petty and your criticism is irrelevant
60 fps>30
Could you do a guide for the complete recipe book and where to buy the items and another for the enemies