You forgot to mention how after the events of Super Paper Mario, Dimenio was able to utilize the last shadow of his power while controlling the chaos heart to destroy Mario's whole dimension and create Paper Mario Sticker Star as an act of revenge. However, with his limited amount of power left, the worst he could do is make it as bland and "paper thin" in depth as possible by literally curing the entire land. I mean, Dimentio has experience in making his own dimensions as you fight him in his very own dimension while playing Super Paper Mario. With only an ounce of the Chaos Heart's power and his experience as a magic user, Dimentio was able to do this. This curse makes sense too, as in TTYD, curses turned you into papery transformations. These curses were always on a small scale in TTYD, so they didn't do too much to Mario compared to the multiverse destructive force that is the chaos heart. Rogue Port doesn't exist anymore, and neither do any of the other interesting locations from the first 2 games. Sticker Star's plot basically functions as a much, much weaker re-telling of the events of the original Paper Mario. It was essentially a world reset. The Sticker Star and Sticker Commet are essentially the lifeless forms Star Haven and the Star Spirits take. The game hides little reminders of a past life existing, like in the 5-1 trash pit, we see some final letters from Goombella and Parrykarry, but no one is this new world understands what it means. This was probably in Dimentio's best favor because this was probably a fate worse than death for the Mario gang. The Mario characters of this new world have been transformed into tragic characters suffering from a lack of memory of their past life, as characters like Bowser forgot about his development from SPM and even forgot how to talk! Ever wondered why Dimentio also sounded like "dementia", well he basically causes a form of dementia for the whole Mario cast. Over time, Mario's world starts to develop and recover again, as we see in Color Splash and Origami King, even still including references from the first three games, but these are still only left over nods to remind you that a past, better life existed right under their noses, but they were none the wiser. When you take into account Sticker Star's obvious implications and the games that came before it, Sticker Star is actually a deeply provocative game and a storytelling masterpiece, rivaling the likes of TTYD and Super, and it expertly displays its themes in its terrible gameplay and general structure! I am obviously kidding here, and the developers never thought of this, but can you imagine if this was actually cannon? I mean, it makes sense, right? Honestly, if Nintendo is thinking about going back to Paper Mario's roots, this could potentially become the basis for a 7th Paper Mario game's plot. Like, maybe it involves Mario traveling back in time to prevent this from happening and restoring the world to what it was like before this curse, while also colliding it with the events from the newer games. I am really curious to see where Nintendo takes the story after the remake of TTYD. I am guessing will have to do with the sales of the remake, which is a shame, but it is what it is.
I would LOVE it if a new sequel game would start Paper Mario in the complete Sticker Star type of world but the magic McGuffins you collect would give Mario back his RPG powers that give you the ability to challenge Dimentio for dominion over all worlds. Maybe bring back Twink as a Star Point in the prologue that you break open and he is the one to tell Mario that reality is all messed up and he has been trapped in there for years. That would be awesome!
I admit, that's a cool canon. But I like the newer games too much to be of the same mindset. If Paper Mario games are going back to the oldies, it's gonna be really easy to see Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami King as just Paper Mario's refuse, one-time mistakes, and an era to be forgotten about, but I do not want that to be the case. Those games matter to people, too.
as someone who was 6 when she first played sticker star and therefore quite enjoyed it, it's nice to see SOME appreciation for this game that I know so many hate in the form of a half an hour video
Amazing work! I can’t believe how many dark themes you squeezed out of the least dark game in the series. It’s the only one with no Boos being swallowed whole, no shadow queen trying to enslave the world, no world ending chaos heart, no shy guys sucking the blood out of npcs, and no major character death. I love your style of video making you have given me inspiration to finally continue my Origami King series, thank you!
Something I've always found pretty dark are Kamek's final words in this game: "King Bowser will destroy you!" Not the phrase itself (which is painfully generic, like almost everything else in this game), but the fact that he keeps yelling it over and over until he turns to dust. It always stuck with me.
I agree! While I don't directly talk about the line, I did make sure to at least include a clip of his last words in the video. I'll probably bring it up in the "Dark Aspects of the modern Paper Mario trilogy" compilation I'm putting together!
I like to believe that the modern Paper Mario Trilogy takes place before the first trilogy. The stories and stakes get darker with each game, and Bowser and his dwindling army are gradually reduced as a threat, and he even ends up being a hero in the end. Each game also seems to give Luigi and Peach more to do in this order.
@WarioTimeWarioTimeWarioTime Actually, if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't. Goombella had written the letter to one of her professors while attending the University of Goom. By the time of The Thousand Year Door, she had already graduated and began a full career as an archeologist. And Parakarry's letter was just him being a mailman, to which he always had been.
the most strangely unknown fact bout the Final Bowser fight in Sticker Star, since normally he just dies from infini-jumps, is that if you take too long, he will start attacking more times per turn. first Bowser starts attacking twice, then eventually starts attacking 3 times per turn when enough turns have passed. including Mario getting Crumpled(take x2 damage), in which he just barely survives this onslaught of attacks, this makes the final Bowser the most damaging enemy in Sticker Star from this alone. too bad almost no one will ever see this unless they goof around like I always do for that fight 🤔
What's interesting is that Mr. Blizzard says, "...you'll make ME again, won't you?" He is fully confident that this is possible. It reminds me of the Snowboys of Animal Crossing: New Horizons, except they find melting fun. Understandable. You never have to go where Nibbles is in a form that Nibbles will attack -- somehow, perhaps, thanks to the power of the "curse", Nibbles doesn't attack Mario when he's being a paper boat -- and if you do, it's one HP, not your entire life.
And don't forget about Kamek turning Mario's stickers into flip-flops. An odd choice until you realize how blissfully ignorant Kamek really is, while Nintendo knows something that Kamek doesn't.
there are some things i genuinely like about sticker star, like the mentioned snowman story and overworld puzzle aspect of the game. i think it would've been a good game if they had leaned more on the story and puzzles
Yes! The beginning of the game & the Enigmansion are especially filled with great environmental puzzles, and I agree that leaning into storytelling would've made me appreciate this game so much more. Color Splash and the N64 original were light on plot as well, but the former had a cool concept for a villain w/ the possessive Black Paint and the latter told interesting sub-stories in each chapter. Sticker Star has bits of that, but they're few and far between...it's sad the devs were actively avoiding a complex story, mainly because of that infamous Super Paper Mario survey
Honestly Nintendo is a master of putting Dark aspects in their games. Take Splatoon series. The time of humans and mammals are over they as humanity destroyed that earth causing ocean water to rise with the last part of humanity being an 2 cats an bear and an fax machine. Everything else is gone we play in the remains of humanity as evolved sea creatures.
Splatoon is a franchise I regrettably never got into, but it's always interested me. The more I hear about the lore the more I want to play it--I know it's one of Nintendo's darkest series which is impressive considering how new the IP is. I'm sure I'll eventually cover it!
@@ThaneGamingOne thing I didn’t mention is that there is a sensient phone that has made an elaborate test trails to k*ll the best the best test subjects to create an goo that’s mind controlling others to create better world for his diseased creator know as the professor.
@ThaneGaming please do! I find it so interesting because they took shooter mechanics and somehow added just enough that you can also platform with them. If you do a dark aspects I recommend every game getting their own part, and octo expansion gets its own too. Side order didn't really do much for story so I'd tac that onto the end
What's more about Kersti's sacrifice is that she barely reacts to, you know, getting brought back to _life?_ No "sorry for being a bitch", no "thank you for reviving me", she doesn't even bring up the fact that it (supposedly) took her _dying_ to stop Bowser when she chewed him out. Just "being alive again is cool, but I need another job if I have to keep dealing with this fuckwit". Which is fair, but still, she legitimately thought there was no coming back from lending Mario her power, I'm sure.You'd think she'd be a bit more receptive to coming back anyway.
Imagine if Sticker Star continued the trend of Paper Mario games progressively becoming darker and was actually *darker* than Super Paper Mario. I don't want to know what Nintendo would have in store for that...
You forgot the part where after you've exorcised the Enigmansion, you can take a portrait of the deceased owner of the mansion, paperize it, and bring him back to life. As far as the Sticker Comet is concerned, I didn't think it was too odd. PM64 itself is a spiritual continuation of SMRPG, where wishes are granted by the Star Road, which allows any wish from anyone be granted, is a physical star-shaped object that can be interacted with and destroyed, and is looked over by "a higher power" rather than the Star Spirits specifically. Ot's not that shocking if there are more than one means to grant wishes in the Mushroom Kingdom.
You don't see that very often--I've got to say, I respect your take. What do you like about Sticker Star more than the others? Have you played every game in the series?
well, I like that you have to collect the attacks (the stickers), because it feels like you have to do something more to prepare for a fight, instead of just leveling up by continually fighting enemy like in some other RPGs. Although, grinding for stickers is a whole other thing, but I feel it's more fun.
I've thought about doing one for so long! I even imagined it as an April Fools' Day video, as I never realized I'd have so much to say about it. The Thousand Year Door remake coming out was the motivation I needed to make it happen!
@@CocatGaming Yes that's the plan! I imagine it'll take me a few weeks to play through the remake, so the episode will be out sometime in June. I'll have another video before then though!
Bro, you can't say sticker star is bad if you never played it. At least try it and if you don't like it it's ok but if you don't have any idea on what are you talking about then shut up.
I came up with a shabby connection between all the wish-granting objects in Mario games. SMRPG's Star Road is the epicenter of wish-granting, but over time, there were more and more wishes to grant. So, the Star Road created the Beanstar, the Dream and Dark Stones, and other objects to assist with that wish-granting. But in the paper world, the Star Road's paper equivalent is Star Haven, and the Star Spirits. And they had the same issue and followed up with the same action. They created the Sticker Star/Comet to help with wish-granting, and they could also be responsible for the thousand-cranes wish magic in Origami King, though that does have real-life origins.
Love the appreciation to Luigi's mansion dark moon (2), wich is my favorite Luigi's mansion, and specially to the secret mine, wich had my favorite levels out of all
Man, I played this game way too much. I actually glitched it and now my file says I started playing in 2011 despite the game not being released yet. Great game, sucks people hate it so much.
I think Kersti is like a priestess of sorts, maybe, as the Royal Stickers are called the "Six Divine Sticker Beings" in the Enigmansion, which is a whole other conundrum, as nowhere else in the game, not even by Kersti herself, are the Royal Stickers refered to as sentient people, they're objects, with a lot of power yes, but ultimately objects. An artifact that is revered as a god would be an idol, which is fair given how the people of the Mushroom Kingdom make a whole festival for the Sticker Comet and essentially "give it their prayers", they could be seen as idols, but with actual power. Can you be a priest for an idol? Maybe, Kersti says it's her job so it wouldn't be out of the question that on her "planet", the Sticker Star, she is the equivalent of a priest for these 6 "gods", and one of her obligations is to fly them to Mario's world every year. I guess other terms such as guardian, caretaker, guide, etc would also fit Kersti, but I like priestess for the implication that the Royal Stickers are thought to be divine, at least in the Mushroom Kingdom.
the royal stickers seem to react to wishes but since Bowser touched the comet, and has the main royal sticker, they were granting his wish for power so Gooper Blooper’s wish to dance and Mr Blizzard’s wish for a body that doesn’t melt simply granted them overflowing power, leading to a poisonous flood and a never ending blizzard respectively and of course, as the Goombas and Pokey are direct followers who had the crown directly given to them, they’d of course wish for his wish and Petey’s just Petey
Honestly, I wish the stickers were just kinda evil. As in, they feed from wishes and desires while also starting to ruin the world.(Like how it already kinda does for bosses 3 and 4 of the original game) People think they are miracle workers because they can grant wishes without a tangible cost, but they are instead calamity bringers because they twist those wishes and the wisher with them. Instead it is some sort of weaksauce nonsense about the strengh of the heart and selfishness of the wish again. Except for Bowser, who does not speak but is supposedly in full control somehow.(and even tries to steal the power again in the ending of the game) The stickers are just not distinct enough from the wish granting stars from PM1 to justify their existance as a major plottpoint. And the idea of "are they corrupted or are they just jerks now they they have enough power to be jerks?" among the bosses is not consistent and developed enough to emotionally resonate(Minus the snowman. Rip). Area 5 is also just weird as no wishes are twisted and/or no one intentionally gets powered up, Petey just kinda ate a thing and became shiny.
20:16 well I'm now scared for life after hearing THAT! (I legit thought they were just in a jail cell, and that the screen turning red meant they were trapped forever, not that they were in an oven and were getting cooked alive.)
Fun fact, the Book of Sealing in both Spanish translations is named Espectronomicón. A pun on espectro (spectre) and necromomicón (as in. The cthulu thing) I'm so glad Origami King brought back those mural Toads in the walls of the Temple of Shroom, I really want more enemy variants in this style
That's brilliant! I love hearing about localization choices made for different regions. Apparently in French it's "Fantômicon" (phantom + necronomicon), which I also like!
I did see Mario Maker mentioned in a Reddit thread--the commenter claimed they tried it at least and there were no results. I'd test it myself, but too late (Wii U servers are shut down 😅)
Kamek at 16:24 be sliding into the scene like a hacker sliding into someone's DMs and taking their private info, especially those awkward pics of yourself you took at 3 A.M. .😂😂😂
Oh! I also read her name as "KerTSI" for the longest time, because I thought it was a pun on "sticker" + "curtsy" (since she's royalty, i thought it made sense). To this day, I wrote "Kertsi" 12 different times in the script, so I had to re-record those lines haha
Also when you do the dark aspects of the new paper mario compilation i think it would be good to mention in the color splash section that the black paint was probably used to paint the night sky
Sticker Star was actually my first introduction into the Paper Mario series. And I actually like the game. I know it sterilized the series going forward and removed a lot of the original characters. On top of completely changing the battle system. But I still have fun playing through it from time to time.
through this game, after I finally beat it, after years, I didn’t feel like I had fun. The best thing’s about this game is the soundtrack and graphics. everything else feels… at best decent. The game has SO MANY FLAWS, that I can’t give it any better of a rating than.. just ok. OH AND DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON KERSTI!!!
Fans love to RIP on this game because it wasn’t CUTUP to be like the other STACK of games on the table. Obviously comparing it to the other games make it look like SCRAP but it’s not terrible. It has some good things that Nintendo has FOLDED into it. This game needs some more fans TACKED onto it because a lot of people love to use it as a series STAPLE of bad games and CRUMBLE it up in throw in the trash. I Especially love the whole ARTS and CRAFTS/ PAPER aspect it brought and how the series was able to to STICK to it
you forgot to mention the toad that got folded 256 times into a tiny paper scrap. and how wiggler gets stuck as a head unable to move. and the flip flops are kinda creepy too, in an existential sense. they all look the same, and are completely weak too, you have no way of knowing whether you just used something super important or just another jump sticker.
My story behind sticker star is very personal, I got the game from a friend who got it twice on his birthday, I got it free from him and loved playing it, I didn’t play any paper Mario game before. And getting the game again 2 years ago and re-playing it shows me a lot more of its issues, but even then, I like for what it does. Tho I do prefer origami king. THE OST IS AMAZING THO
I am so happy to finally see someone mention Sniffit or Wiffit. Yes it's dark, but it's also one of the best jokes in the series I feel. Just gives me a good chuckle. Those poor unpaid bitches-I mean interns. 😂
I started playing super paper mario a while ago but recently i started playing color splash bucuse of you and i love it i also got stickerstar to play after color splash so i dont have an opinion yet but tbh color splash is like my 2nd fav game rn so thanks
That's awesome, I'm glad to hear you gave Color Splash a try because of my videos! How far have you gotten in the game? My favorite parts are probably the purple & orange levels (I won't spoil what they are...)
@@ThaneGaming no i have beat morton so far and got past the train lvl i think thats orange right but i have heard ppl complain about the toads being boring but they do all have character in some form witch to me is just awsome
@@1inolol420 yes! I love the train level and everything leading up to it. You're pretty close to finishing the game then--there's some really cool surprises in the last few stages
I like filling out the sticker museum and collecting all the real world things and I get it sticker star is very different from the previous three games and such a trend for the next two that a lot of people don’t like but I think people don’t like it more because it’s different than because it’s bad on its own merit
I talk about in this video, where I explain why I think the two Paper Mario trilogies belong to separate continuities! ruclips.net/video/f2z6jTUcybM/видео.htmlsi=hF8VzNyXPCiUHOcF
15:38 I feel like you worded it that way on purpose, especially with that word sounding very similar to one that, if I actually say it, RUclips will drop a nuclear bomb on this comment and wipe out the comment section.
I remember playing this game, and feeling a lingering sense of disappointment of its story. It’s no grand adventure, just a collection of smaller adventures stacked together in a trenchcoat trying to convince you it’s a bigger and grand adventure. The music is good though. Clearly Intelligent Systems has the ability to create a great Paper Mario game that stands alongside the classic first 3 in the series… and that they’re fans of the series, but they just don’t take the opportunity to. It’s just so weird that they could make an absolute amazing remake of TTYD, but not an amazing unique creation.
I checked my 3DS Activity Log recently, and found that I finished it about a month after release, but haven't played it since. I don't think I got 100%...did you complete the museum?
@@ThaneGaming nope, I simply do not enjoy the game enough to take the time to 100% the game. There's several things that I don't like about the game, but I had to use the guide for most of the game
I had a theory about the plot of this game. What if the whole reason that Bowser wanted the Sticker Comet because he wanted Princess Peach to love him? In ‘Super Paper Mario’, Count Black successfully weds Bowser and Peach. If the marriage wasn’t truly legitimate, the Chaos Heart would never have been summoned. Yet, throughout the game, Peach constantly ignores Bowser. Does this mean that the only reason why Sticker Star exists is because Bowser wants his wife back?!
The darkest aspect of this game is Kersti. Even as a kid playing this game in 2013, I found her death unearned, we have a character that is very unlikeable, and will yell at anyone (including Mario) and I'm supposed to feel bad for her.. and she comes back in the ending, making her dead underserved. Funny enough, if you code the game to leave the final boss and SELL the b!tch at a shop, she canonically costs FIVE COINS!!! Good riddance of the Mario mandates.
I've always really enjoyed Sticker Star, it's a pretty good game, but I've never felt like defending it from the heavy criticism it gets as I have played some more of the rest of the series since, plus I personally also had some gripes with the game that are apparently also common complaints, and the gap of quality is huuuuge, completely eclipses what good aspects Sticker Star has on its own I do still maintain the opinion that the combat system is decent for the series and that Origami King and especially Color Splash are far worse at it though, the bosses in Origami King get a slight pass for being built around it but the rest of the time it is tedious and tiresome while Color Splash's is just pain
Isn't the third round a block shuffle game? The first is answering questions, and the second is Whac-A-Mole, so the bonus round combines the first two because you're answering questions while bonking Snifits
Color Splash didn't have much of a plot, but the symbiote-like Black Paint was a good idea, and The Origami King had a genuinely good story imo. You're right though, the main reason Sticker Star is the one Paper Mario game I truly dislike is because how little narrative there is (they even took away Bowser's voice...)
@ThaneGaming yeah, i agree. like, compared to the og 3 PM games, the newer 3 are more barebones in story, but atleast CS and TOK had more emotion to them, and are by far better than SS. but when Nintendo when making SS was literally like: "what does story mean"
@@thestallioncreatura I agree with you on that last part, it's sad that the element I liked most about Paper Mario (cool stories set in the Mario universe) was largely abandoned in Sticker Star because of that infamous Club Nintendo survey for Super Paper Mario, where "not even 1% said the story was interesting." SS came together because of that revelation, which caused the development team to want to avoid a story altogether. Iwata even said "That's a difficult task. In some ways that would be the exact opposite direction" of the first three games, but they went all in on the idea and the game suffered for it. That being said, I'm glad they've been embracing plot more in modern Paper Mario, and hopefully the next game will be a return to form in that regard. The TTYD remake is a good sign, of course!
Mainly because of the plot...I'm okay with a simple one but there wasn't a lot of great dialogue to make up for it, or any stories really happening between chapters. I also really didn't like the blandness of the locales & the lack of unique characters. The puzzles/exploration was OK, but I wasn't a fan of the battles (Color Splash made it more interesting for me, though a I know some would disagree).
@@PrintThem and I respect yours! I didn't talk about the map because I wasn't trying to review the game, I just wanted to bring up some of the bigger points I disliked about it when relevant. I do prefer the more seamless world of the first two + The Origami King though.
It'd really help if these characters were actually given speaking lines that aren't just battle cries. Petey says "Shwiiiiii... SHINEY PETEY TIME!" and burps. That's it... I'm okay with the ocassional boss monster that attacks without dialogue, but when it's every single one I stop getting excited to battle them.
I suppose Petea Piranha made up for that for being both a humorous boss and also a boss that is reasonably challenging and also not forced to use Things.
@@iantaakalla8180 yes! Agreed! Petea was a fun surprise, and he did have a few lines before the encounter (I like that he spoke his own language, w/ the meaning in parenthesis but gave up because he realized Mario can't understand him). That was the way to do it
It may have been nice for you, but there was no Paper Mario fanbase after this, and pretty much annihilation of one or the other will be the only end to this. As a neat side effect, the Mario & Luigi series was ruined by this as well.
I don't really like or hate sticker star? It's solidly good, I think the writing is its real charm? But... I think for me the biggest turn off was the idea that, along with Paper Jam, this game marks this idea that PAPER Mario and MARIO Mario are different entities? I haven't played through all of Paper Jam, but a lot of the ideas that the OG 3 Paper Marios (or really just the first 2) add to the Larger Universe are REALLY charming, and I hate to lose them in the universe by having them be written off as "Just Paper Mario Concepts" as opposed to wider Mario World concepts!
Actually, it’s a pretty hot take considering anyone who seriously covers it agrees Sticker Star is a bad game in general. Every single aspect is boring or antagonizing. Every single mote of fun scraped from this game is done in spite or ignorance.
@@superplush2970 play it again and see just how poorly designed it is and how it's seemingly engineered to create as much frustration as fucking possible at all times, riddled with soft locks, and so stuffed with goddamned backtracking it makes everyone complaining about TTYD but praising this game look like a fucking crazy person
Come on sticker star is in a bad game. It’s a decent game. It’s really good. They hate for it is not true. It’s either by people who never played the game or by people who just wanna make their words spoken out to the public
I wasn't even claiming it's a bad game in the video, I just don't personally like it. And I'm not saying it because that's a popular opinion--my dissapointment for it was and still is real. I enjoyed all of world 4 and there are some other things I like about Sticker Star, but overall I have a negative opinion about the game. I don't think anyone who does enjoy it is wrong, though
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Forgot about that toad. Been suck under my fountain since 2012.
He probably turned into a Dried Shroom! I wonder how many parallel versions there are of that Toad trapped in different copies of Sticker Star
*Suck under your fountain since 2012*
How does one suck under my fountain?
@@Shagaru_Bleed i dont think you'd want to know
@@pangake I don't I'd want to know either.
T is real
8:40 I just love how the bar for this entire thing is on the floor lol. But glad it made him feel at least something
You forgot to mention how after the events of Super Paper Mario, Dimenio was able to utilize the last shadow of his power while controlling the chaos heart to destroy Mario's whole dimension and create Paper Mario Sticker Star as an act of revenge. However, with his limited amount of power left, the worst he could do is make it as bland and "paper thin" in depth as possible by literally curing the entire land. I mean, Dimentio has experience in making his own dimensions as you fight him in his very own dimension while playing Super Paper Mario. With only an ounce of the Chaos Heart's power and his experience as a magic user, Dimentio was able to do this. This curse makes sense too, as in TTYD, curses turned you into papery transformations. These curses were always on a small scale in TTYD, so they didn't do too much to Mario compared to the multiverse destructive force that is the chaos heart. Rogue Port doesn't exist anymore, and neither do any of the other interesting locations from the first 2 games. Sticker Star's plot basically functions as a much, much weaker re-telling of the events of the original Paper Mario. It was essentially a world reset. The Sticker Star and Sticker Commet are essentially the lifeless forms Star Haven and the Star Spirits take. The game hides little reminders of a past life existing, like in the 5-1 trash pit, we see some final letters from Goombella and Parrykarry, but no one is this new world understands what it means. This was probably in Dimentio's best favor because this was probably a fate worse than death for the Mario gang. The Mario characters of this new world have been transformed into tragic characters suffering from a lack of memory of their past life, as characters like Bowser forgot about his development from SPM and even forgot how to talk! Ever wondered why Dimentio also sounded like "dementia", well he basically causes a form of dementia for the whole Mario cast. Over time, Mario's world starts to develop and recover again, as we see in Color Splash and Origami King, even still including references from the first three games, but these are still only left over nods to remind you that a past, better life existed right under their noses, but they were none the wiser. When you take into account Sticker Star's obvious implications and the games that came before it, Sticker Star is actually a deeply provocative game and a storytelling masterpiece, rivaling the likes of TTYD and Super, and it expertly displays its themes in its terrible gameplay and general structure!
I am obviously kidding here, and the developers never thought of this, but can you imagine if this was actually cannon? I mean, it makes sense, right? Honestly, if Nintendo is thinking about going back to Paper Mario's roots, this could potentially become the basis for a 7th Paper Mario game's plot. Like, maybe it involves Mario traveling back in time to prevent this from happening and restoring the world to what it was like before this curse, while also colliding it with the events from the newer games. I am really curious to see where Nintendo takes the story after the remake of TTYD. I am guessing will have to do with the sales of the remake, which is a shame, but it is what it is.
I will accept this as canon.
that's a load of cringe
I would LOVE it if a new sequel game would start Paper Mario in the complete Sticker Star type of world but the magic McGuffins you collect would give Mario back his RPG powers that give you the ability to challenge Dimentio for dominion over all worlds. Maybe bring back Twink as a Star Point in the prologue that you break open and he is the one to tell Mario that reality is all messed up and he has been trapped in there for years. That would be awesome!
This is now canon to me, minus the dementia stuff.
I admit, that's a cool canon. But I like the newer games too much to be of the same mindset. If Paper Mario games are going back to the oldies, it's gonna be really easy to see Sticker Star, Color Splash, and Origami King as just Paper Mario's refuse, one-time mistakes, and an era to be forgotten about, but I do not want that to be the case. Those games matter to people, too.
It's interesting how even the least interesting Paper Mario game still has a decent amount of intriguing things going for it
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8:37 that’s just the ice king from adventure time.
as someone who was 6 when she first played sticker star and therefore quite enjoyed it, it's nice to see SOME appreciation for this game that I know so many hate in the form of a half an hour video
Same
Same here, and though I now still agree it isn't a very strong game series wise, in a vacuum, it's still a decent game. (The music is peak btw.)
That means the latest you could've been born in is 2006. You're young as fuck
Amazing work! I can’t believe how many dark themes you squeezed out of the least dark game in the series. It’s the only one with no Boos being swallowed whole, no shadow queen trying to enslave the world, no world ending chaos heart, no shy guys sucking the blood out of npcs, and no major character death. I love your style of video making you have given me inspiration to finally continue my Origami King series, thank you!
Something I've always found pretty dark are Kamek's final words in this game: "King Bowser will destroy you!" Not the phrase itself (which is painfully generic, like almost everything else in this game), but the fact that he keeps yelling it over and over until he turns to dust. It always stuck with me.
I agree! While I don't directly talk about the line, I did make sure to at least include a clip of his last words in the video. I'll probably bring it up in the "Dark Aspects of the modern Paper Mario trilogy" compilation I'm putting together!
I like to believe that the modern Paper Mario Trilogy takes place before the first trilogy. The stories and stakes get darker with each game, and Bowser and his dwindling army are gradually reduced as a threat, and he even ends up being a hero in the end.
Each game also seems to give Luigi and Peach more to do in this order.
Origami King ruins this tho. Maybe that happens last?
@@tobdog6224 how so??
I really do like this theory but Goombella and Parakarry’s notes in sticker star contradict it
@WarioTimeWarioTimeWarioTime Actually, if I'm not mistaken, it doesn't. Goombella had written the letter to one of her professors while attending the University of Goom. By the time of The Thousand Year Door, she had already graduated and began a full career as an archeologist.
And Parakarry's letter was just him being a mailman, to which he always had been.
In Origami King, there's an area where you can see photos of Peach from every Paper Mario game, so this can't be the case unfortunately
the most strangely unknown fact bout the Final Bowser fight in Sticker Star, since normally he just dies from infini-jumps,
is that if you take too long, he will start attacking more times per turn.
first Bowser starts attacking twice, then eventually starts attacking 3 times per turn when enough turns have passed.
including Mario getting Crumpled(take x2 damage), in which he just barely survives this onslaught of attacks, this makes the final Bowser the most damaging enemy in Sticker Star from this alone.
too bad almost no one will ever see this unless they goof around like I always do for that fight 🤔
What's interesting is that Mr. Blizzard says, "...you'll make ME again, won't you?" He is fully confident that this is possible. It reminds me of the Snowboys of Animal Crossing: New Horizons, except they find melting fun.
Understandable. You never have to go where Nibbles is in a form that Nibbles will attack -- somehow, perhaps, thanks to the power of the "curse", Nibbles doesn't attack Mario when he's being a paper boat -- and if you do, it's one HP, not your entire life.
And don't forget about Kamek turning Mario's stickers into flip-flops. An odd choice until you realize how blissfully ignorant Kamek really is, while Nintendo knows something that Kamek doesn't.
Huh?
@@seant1326la chancla…
@@manformerlypigbukkit In English?
@@seant1326 Hispanic moms use there slippers or "la chancla" to hit someone
there are some things i genuinely like about sticker star, like the mentioned snowman story and overworld puzzle aspect of the game. i think it would've been a good game if they had leaned more on the story and puzzles
Yes! The beginning of the game & the Enigmansion are especially filled with great environmental puzzles, and I agree that leaning into storytelling would've made me appreciate this game so much more. Color Splash and the N64 original were light on plot as well, but the former had a cool concept for a villain w/ the possessive Black Paint and the latter told interesting sub-stories in each chapter. Sticker Star has bits of that, but they're few and far between...it's sad the devs were actively avoiding a complex story, mainly because of that infamous Super Paper Mario survey
Honestly Nintendo is a master of putting Dark aspects in their games. Take Splatoon series. The time of humans and mammals are over they as humanity destroyed that earth causing ocean water to rise with the last part of humanity being an 2 cats an bear and an fax machine. Everything else is gone we play in the remains of humanity as evolved sea creatures.
Splatoon is a franchise I regrettably never got into, but it's always interested me. The more I hear about the lore the more I want to play it--I know it's one of Nintendo's darkest series which is impressive considering how new the IP is. I'm sure I'll eventually cover it!
@@ThaneGamingOne thing I didn’t mention is that there is a sensient phone that has made an elaborate test trails to k*ll the best the best test subjects to create an goo that’s mind controlling others to create better world for his diseased creator know as the professor.
@ThaneGaming please do! I find it so interesting because they took shooter mechanics and somehow added just enough that you can also platform with them.
If you do a dark aspects I recommend every game getting their own part, and octo expansion gets its own too. Side order didn't really do much for story so I'd tac that onto the end
You forgot to mention the disaster of Kerstis presence
What's more about Kersti's sacrifice is that she barely reacts to, you know, getting brought back to _life?_ No "sorry for being a bitch", no "thank you for reviving me", she doesn't even bring up the fact that it (supposedly) took her _dying_ to stop Bowser when she chewed him out. Just "being alive again is cool, but I need another job if I have to keep dealing with this fuckwit".
Which is fair, but still, she legitimately thought there was no coming back from lending Mario her power, I'm sure.You'd think she'd be a bit more receptive to coming back anyway.
Imagine if Sticker Star continued the trend of Paper Mario games progressively becoming darker and was actually *darker* than Super Paper Mario. I don't want to know what Nintendo would have in store for that...
You forgot the part where after you've exorcised the Enigmansion, you can take a portrait of the deceased owner of the mansion, paperize it, and bring him back to life.
As far as the Sticker Comet is concerned, I didn't think it was too odd. PM64 itself is a spiritual continuation of SMRPG, where wishes are granted by the Star Road, which allows any wish from anyone be granted, is a physical star-shaped object that can be interacted with and destroyed, and is looked over by "a higher power" rather than the Star Spirits specifically.
Ot's not that shocking if there are more than one means to grant wishes in the Mushroom Kingdom.
Sticker star was my first paper mario game, I loved it, it has to be one of my favorite paper mario games.
You don't see that very often--I've got to say, I respect your take. What do you like about Sticker Star more than the others? Have you played every game in the series?
well, I like that you have to collect the attacks (the stickers), because it feels like you have to do something more to prepare for a fight, instead of just leveling up by continually fighting enemy like in some other RPGs. Although, grinding for stickers is a whole other thing, but I feel it's more fun.
Oh yes! It’s nice for Sticker Star finally get a darks aspects video!
I've thought about doing one for so long! I even imagined it as an April Fools' Day video, as I never realized I'd have so much to say about it. The Thousand Year Door remake coming out was the motivation I needed to make it happen!
@@ThaneGamingNice! Do you plan to remake the Thousand Year Door Dark Aspects video once the remake releases?
@@CocatGaming Yes that's the plan! I imagine it'll take me a few weeks to play through the remake, so the episode will be out sometime in June. I'll have another video before then though!
@@ThaneGamingnice! I can’t wait to see it!
@ThaneGaming let's hope you have new dark aspects in the remake to look at too
The darkest aspect about this game was its conception 😭🙏
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Lmao
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Wow really wracked your brain coming up with that one, huh lol 😂
Bro, you can't say sticker star is bad if you never played it. At least try it and if you don't like it it's ok but if you don't have any idea on what are you talking about then shut up.
20:18 I love that reload animation it makes me laugh knowing this is very lethal and absurd
I came up with a shabby connection between all the wish-granting objects in Mario games. SMRPG's Star Road is the epicenter of wish-granting, but over time, there were more and more wishes to grant. So, the Star Road created the Beanstar, the Dream and Dark Stones, and other objects to assist with that wish-granting. But in the paper world, the Star Road's paper equivalent is Star Haven, and the Star Spirits. And they had the same issue and followed up with the same action. They created the Sticker Star/Comet to help with wish-granting, and they could also be responsible for the thousand-cranes wish magic in Origami King, though that does have real-life origins.
Love the appreciation to Luigi's mansion dark moon (2), wich is my favorite Luigi's mansion, and specially to the secret mine, wich had my favorite levels out of all
For that mystery code, I’m assuming it’s a nintendo game code a Toad used and threw away. Probably for some company like Shroomtendo or something
Breathing poisonous gas is definitely a horrible way to die
The snowman is literally just ice king from adventure time lmao
Fun fact: Tower Power Pokey sort of returns in Mario and Luigi: Paper Jam as a bossfight alongside it's non-paper equivilent
Man, I played this game way too much. I actually glitched it and now my file says I started playing in 2011 despite the game not being released yet. Great game, sucks people hate it so much.
14:10 …Is this about what I think it’s about?…
A room filled with noxious gas
Underground tunnels
Ah shit.
I think Kersti is like a priestess of sorts, maybe, as the Royal Stickers are called the "Six Divine Sticker Beings" in the Enigmansion, which is a whole other conundrum, as nowhere else in the game, not even by Kersti herself, are the Royal Stickers refered to as sentient people, they're objects, with a lot of power yes, but ultimately objects.
An artifact that is revered as a god would be an idol, which is fair given how the people of the Mushroom Kingdom make a whole festival for the Sticker Comet and essentially "give it their prayers", they could be seen as idols, but with actual power.
Can you be a priest for an idol? Maybe, Kersti says it's her job so it wouldn't be out of the question that on her "planet", the Sticker Star, she is the equivalent of a priest for these 6 "gods", and one of her obligations is to fly them to Mario's world every year.
I guess other terms such as guardian, caretaker, guide, etc would also fit Kersti, but I like priestess for the implication that the Royal Stickers are thought to be divine, at least in the Mushroom Kingdom.
17:28
Chuggaaconroy discovered the instant death thing on complete accident while trying to make a joke
the royal stickers seem to react to wishes
but since Bowser touched the comet, and has the main royal sticker, they were granting his wish for power
so Gooper Blooper’s wish to dance and Mr Blizzard’s wish for a body that doesn’t melt simply granted them overflowing power, leading to a poisonous flood and a never ending blizzard respectively
and of course, as the Goombas and Pokey are direct followers who had the crown directly given to them, they’d of course wish for his wish
and Petey’s just Petey
Honestly, I wish the stickers were just kinda evil. As in, they feed from wishes and desires while also starting to ruin the world.(Like how it already kinda does for bosses 3 and 4 of the original game) People think they are miracle workers because they can grant wishes without a tangible cost, but they are instead calamity bringers because they twist those wishes and the wisher with them.
Instead it is some sort of weaksauce nonsense about the strengh of the heart and selfishness of the wish again. Except for Bowser, who does not speak but is supposedly in full control somehow.(and even tries to steal the power again in the ending of the game) The stickers are just not distinct enough from the wish granting stars from PM1 to justify their existance as a major plottpoint. And the idea of "are they corrupted or are they just jerks now they they have enough power to be jerks?" among the bosses is not consistent and developed enough to emotionally resonate(Minus the snowman. Rip).
Area 5 is also just weird as no wishes are twisted and/or no one intentionally gets powered up, Petey just kinda ate a thing and became shiny.
If only Kersti had more involvement within the game aside from being a Navi knockoff. Then maybe I would've found her sacrifice to be more effective.
20:16 well I'm now scared for life after hearing THAT!
(I legit thought they were just in a jail cell, and that the screen turning red meant they were trapped forever, not that they were in an oven and were getting cooked alive.)
Goodness, even the latest 2D platformer has more of a story than sticker star does…
That kinda blows my mind
Fun fact, the Book of Sealing in both Spanish translations is named Espectronomicón. A pun on espectro (spectre) and necromomicón (as in. The cthulu thing)
I'm so glad Origami King brought back those mural Toads in the walls of the Temple of Shroom, I really want more enemy variants in this style
That's brilliant! I love hearing about localization choices made for different regions. Apparently in French it's "Fantômicon" (phantom + necronomicon), which I also like!
I came across your channel a while ago, and I feel _very_ lucky to have found ya 🌟
I've always thought that weird code was a level ID for the original Super Mario Maker, but nobody ever tried it...
I did see Mario Maker mentioned in a Reddit thread--the commenter claimed they tried it at least and there were no results. I'd test it myself, but too late (Wii U servers are shut down 😅)
In case your wondering, I am in fact imagine spongebob and patrick on the kiddie roller coaster ❤
For a little while, I thought about putting that as my channel banner lol
Cause of the legendary "Everything wrong with Sticker Star" video, i can only hear Kersti with a scottish accent
YEAH STICKER STAR!
I grew up with this paper mario so it holds a special place in my heart.
Kamek at 16:24 be sliding into the scene like a hacker sliding into someone's DMs and taking their private info, especially those awkward pics of yourself you took at 3 A.M. .😂😂😂
HOW DID I NEVER REALISE THAT KERSTI IS A ANAGRAM OF STICKER😭
Yeah, it's just "Sticker" rearranged without the "C"! To be fair, I don't think I realized this on my own either 😆
Oh! I also read her name as "KerTSI" for the longest time, because I thought it was a pun on "sticker" + "curtsy" (since she's royalty, i thought it made sense). To this day, I wrote "Kertsi" 12 different times in the script, so I had to re-record those lines haha
I don't know if you already have something in mind, but a good pick for Dark Aspects would be the Mario & Luigi series
The darkest aspect of this game is the fact it exist in the first place
Also when you do the dark aspects of the new paper mario compilation i think it would be good to mention in the color splash section that the black paint was probably used to paint the night sky
Super Mario RPG already had the wishes lore
Sticker star was my first paper Mario game and ironically the sequel of it is my second
Sticker Star was actually my first introduction into the Paper Mario series. And I actually like the game. I know it sterilized the series going forward and removed a lot of the original characters. On top of completely changing the battle system. But I still have fun playing through it from time to time.
through this game, after I finally beat it, after years, I didn’t feel like I had fun. The best thing’s about this game is the soundtrack and graphics. everything else feels… at best decent. The game has SO MANY FLAWS, that I can’t give it any better of a rating than.. just ok. OH AND DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON KERSTI!!!
i love kersti the royal sticker
the whole deal with sticker fest feels like disney wish all over again
i didn’t know this game got so much hate i love this game sm!!!
3:49 "A Burger King crown"
😂😂😂
Fans love to RIP on this game because it wasn’t CUTUP to be like the other STACK of games on the table. Obviously comparing it to the other games make it look like SCRAP but it’s not terrible. It has some good things that Nintendo has FOLDED into it. This game needs some more fans TACKED onto it because a lot of people love to use it as a series STAPLE of bad games and CRUMBLE it up in throw in the trash. I Especially love the whole ARTS and CRAFTS/ PAPER aspect it brought and how the series was able to to STICK to it
Is it possible to like and dislike a comment at the same time
Nuclear launch code in the Paper Mario Sticker Star dump. How did Nintendo get the nuclear launch codes? Don't know, don't want to find out.
you forgot to mention the toad that got folded 256 times into a tiny paper scrap. and how wiggler gets stuck as a head unable to move. and the flip flops are kinda creepy too, in an existential sense. they all look the same, and are completely weak too, you have no way of knowing whether you just used something super important or just another jump sticker.
My story behind sticker star is very personal, I got the game from a friend who got it twice on his birthday, I got it free from him and loved playing it, I didn’t play any paper Mario game before. And getting the game again 2 years ago and re-playing it shows me a lot more of its issues, but even then, I like for what it does. Tho I do prefer origami king.
THE OST IS AMAZING THO
I am so happy to finally see someone mention Sniffit or Wiffit.
Yes it's dark, but it's also one of the best jokes in the series I feel.
Just gives me a good chuckle. Those poor unpaid bitches-I mean interns. 😂
darkest aspect is the mandatory secrets
I started playing super paper mario a while ago but recently i started playing color splash bucuse of you and i love it i also got stickerstar to play after color splash so i dont have an opinion yet but tbh color splash is like my 2nd fav game rn so thanks
That's awesome, I'm glad to hear you gave Color Splash a try because of my videos! How far have you gotten in the game? My favorite parts are probably the purple & orange levels (I won't spoil what they are...)
@@ThaneGaming no i have beat morton so far and got past the train lvl i think thats orange right but i have heard ppl complain about the toads being boring but they do all have character in some form witch to me is just awsome
@@ThaneGaming also i like youtubers actualy replying to coments they feel more alive
@@1inolol420 I'm glad I pass the (B)robot test!
@@1inolol420 yes! I love the train level and everything leading up to it. You're pretty close to finishing the game then--there's some really cool surprises in the last few stages
2:24 technically Super Mario RPG established a lot of that first
It's true, Paper Mario N64 is like a reboot of Mario RPG in some ways, whereas Sticker Star is like a reboot of Paper Mario
Now that the 3 horrible games are over now we can get onto the good stuff!!!
Regarding that code If im not mistaken enigma give the encoded text in segments of four
I actually enjoyed this game. 🤷🏻♂️
Well done.
I like filling out the sticker museum and collecting all the real world things and I get it sticker star is very different from the previous three games and such a trend for the next two that a lot of people don’t like but I think people don’t like it more because it’s different than because it’s bad on its own merit
20:36 you forgot e to mention the goombela Easter egg in the jungle
I talk about in this video, where I explain why I think the two Paper Mario trilogies belong to separate continuities! ruclips.net/video/f2z6jTUcybM/видео.htmlsi=hF8VzNyXPCiUHOcF
Itd a weird looking coin 22:23
15:38 I feel like you worded it that way on purpose, especially with that word sounding very similar to one that, if I actually say it, RUclips will drop a nuclear bomb on this comment and wipe out the comment section.
Hey don't forget that the darkest thing about this game is that it basically poisoned the rest of the series.
Even though this is one of my least favorite Paper Marios I have to admit I didn't hate playing it. The desert area was kinda bussin to me.
I remember playing this game, and feeling a lingering sense of disappointment of its story. It’s no grand adventure, just a collection of smaller adventures stacked together in a trenchcoat trying to convince you it’s a bigger and grand adventure.
The music is good though. Clearly Intelligent Systems has the ability to create a great Paper Mario game that stands alongside the classic first 3 in the series… and that they’re fans of the series, but they just don’t take the opportunity to. It’s just so weird that they could make an absolute amazing remake of TTYD, but not an amazing unique creation.
Funny how i just completed this game after 11 years
I checked my 3DS Activity Log recently, and found that I finished it about a month after release, but haven't played it since. I don't think I got 100%...did you complete the museum?
@@ThaneGaming nope, I simply do not enjoy the game enough to take the time to 100% the game. There's several things that I don't like about the game, but I had to use the guide for most of the game
@@batzzowo8942 I remember some of the Thing puzzles being unintuitive and even cryptic, I had to use a guide and I'm sure most players did too
@@ThaneGaming the puzzles were way too difficult and very unintutive for my younger self
What the heck is this scene what did toad do to?!? 4:56
12:18 mmmmnmmnbrosted monkey anyone said king k.rule and his army
I had a theory about the plot of this game. What if the whole reason that Bowser wanted the Sticker Comet because he wanted Princess Peach to love him? In ‘Super Paper Mario’, Count Black successfully weds Bowser and Peach. If the marriage wasn’t truly legitimate, the Chaos Heart would never have been summoned. Yet, throughout the game, Peach constantly ignores Bowser.
Does this mean that the only reason why Sticker Star exists is because Bowser wants his wife back?!
Me personally I grew up on Super paper mario and Sticker star, and always didn't get the hate lol
The darkest aspect of this game is Kersti. Even as a kid playing this game in 2013, I found her death unearned, we have a character that is very unlikeable, and will yell at anyone (including Mario) and I'm supposed to feel bad for her.. and she comes back in the ending, making her dead underserved. Funny enough, if you code the game to leave the final boss and SELL the b!tch at a shop, she canonically costs FIVE COINS!!! Good riddance of the Mario mandates.
i am indeed the bravest.
Can we all agree that wiggler was the best part of the game?
Honestly, the only good thing that came from Sticker Star was the music.
I've always really enjoyed Sticker Star, it's a pretty good game, but I've never felt like defending it from the heavy criticism it gets as I have played some more of the rest of the series since, plus I personally also had some gripes with the game that are apparently also common complaints, and the gap of quality is huuuuge, completely eclipses what good aspects Sticker Star has on its own
I do still maintain the opinion that the combat system is decent for the series and that Origami King and especially Color Splash are far worse at it though, the bosses in Origami King get a slight pass for being built around it but the rest of the time it is tedious and tiresome while Color Splash's is just pain
14:20 correction first and third rounds
Isn't the third round a block shuffle game? The first is answering questions, and the second is Whac-A-Mole, so the bonus round combines the first two because you're answering questions while bonking Snifits
@@ThaneGaming I think it was whack-a-sniffit last
Why didn't you talk about the map ?
What the heck this scene why is it in the video what did toad do wrong!?!
the entire game is depressing
sticker star is like a gacha made in the 90s and early 2000s
the game itself is a dark aspect, as it started the new era of paper mario and has never heard of what stories are
Color Splash didn't have much of a plot, but the symbiote-like Black Paint was a good idea, and The Origami King had a genuinely good story imo. You're right though, the main reason Sticker Star is the one Paper Mario game I truly dislike is because how little narrative there is (they even took away Bowser's voice...)
@ThaneGaming yeah, i agree. like, compared to the og 3 PM games, the newer 3 are more barebones in story, but atleast CS and TOK had more emotion to them, and are by far better than SS. but when Nintendo when making SS was literally like: "what does story mean"
@@thestallioncreatura I agree with you on that last part, it's sad that the element I liked most about Paper Mario (cool stories set in the Mario universe) was largely abandoned in Sticker Star because of that infamous Club Nintendo survey for Super Paper Mario, where "not even 1% said the story was interesting." SS came together because of that revelation, which caused the development team to want to avoid a story altogether. Iwata even said "That's a difficult task. In some ways that would be the exact opposite direction" of the first three games, but they went all in on the idea and the game suffered for it. That being said, I'm glad they've been embracing plot more in modern Paper Mario, and hopefully the next game will be a return to form in that regard. The TTYD remake is a good sign, of course!
How is this the longest video, lol
HOW COULD U FORGET ABOUT SECRET DOORS😭😭😭
Do they lead to something dark? 😆
Kersti is the worst party member, she is useless and just whines and complains.
Dark Aspects of Paper Mario: Sticker Star
... It exists.
Why don't you like it, in gameplay ?
Mainly because of the plot...I'm okay with a simple one but there wasn't a lot of great dialogue to make up for it, or any stories really happening between chapters. I also really didn't like the blandness of the locales & the lack of unique characters. The puzzles/exploration was OK, but I wasn't a fan of the battles (Color Splash made it more interesting for me, though a I know some would disagree).
@@ThaneGaming I love the game, but i respect your opinion. Btw, why didn't you talk about the map ?
@@PrintThem and I respect yours! I didn't talk about the map because I wasn't trying to review the game, I just wanted to bring up some of the bigger points I disliked about it when relevant. I do prefer the more seamless world of the first two + The Origami King though.
@@ThaneGaming You don't really like super paper mario ?
@@ThaneGaming btw, personnally, i like how the goomba transformation was unexpected
I still can't believe we finally got Petey into the Paper Mario franchise and this is what they did to him
It'd really help if these characters were actually given speaking lines that aren't just battle cries. Petey says "Shwiiiiii... SHINEY PETEY TIME!" and burps. That's it...
I'm okay with the ocassional boss monster that attacks without dialogue, but when it's every single one I stop getting excited to battle them.
I suppose Petea Piranha made up for that for being both a humorous boss and also a boss that is reasonably challenging and also not forced to use Things.
@@iantaakalla8180 yes! Agreed! Petea was a fun surprise, and he did have a few lines before the encounter (I like that he spoke his own language, w/ the meaning in parenthesis but gave up because he realized Mario can't understand him). That was the way to do it
The game started the dark ages of Paper Mario
Dark Ages ? I personnaly prefer the later games !
It may have been nice for you, but there was no Paper Mario fanbase after this, and pretty much annihilation of one or the other will be the only end to this.
As a neat side effect, the Mario & Luigi series was ruined by this as well.
I don't really like or hate sticker star? It's solidly good, I think the writing is its real charm? But... I think for me the biggest turn off was the idea that, along with Paper Jam, this game marks this idea that PAPER Mario and MARIO Mario are different entities? I haven't played through all of Paper Jam, but a lot of the ideas that the OG 3 Paper Marios (or really just the first 2) add to the Larger Universe are REALLY charming, and I hate to lose them in the universe by having them be written off as "Just Paper Mario Concepts" as opposed to wider Mario World concepts!
Cold take: sticker star isn't a bad game. Just a bad paper mario.
No it's literally objectively poorly designed. I'm a programmer and have been studying these things to make my own game.
Actually, it’s a pretty hot take considering anyone who seriously covers it agrees Sticker Star is a bad game in general. Every single aspect is boring or antagonizing. Every single mote of fun scraped from this game is done in spite or ignorance.
@@iantaakalla8180I said cold take to be different
@CassiusStelar well as a non programmer I thought it was OK. Except that wiggler part.
@@superplush2970 play it again and see just how poorly designed it is and how it's seemingly engineered to create as much frustration as fucking possible at all times, riddled with soft locks, and so stuffed with goddamned backtracking it makes everyone complaining about TTYD but praising this game look like a fucking crazy person
Come on sticker star is in a bad game. It’s a decent game. It’s really good. They hate for it is not true. It’s either by people who never played the game or by people who just wanna make their words spoken out to the public
I wasn't even claiming it's a bad game in the video, I just don't personally like it. And I'm not saying it because that's a popular opinion--my dissapointment for it was and still is real. I enjoyed all of world 4 and there are some other things I like about Sticker Star, but overall I have a negative opinion about the game. I don't think anyone who does enjoy it is wrong, though
Or maybe people did play the game and just didn't like it. That could be a reason too