Dark Aspects of Paper Mario: The Complete Original Trilogy Analysis - Thane Gaming
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- A compilation of Dark Aspects episodes covering the more adult content in Paper Mario, Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door, and Super Paper Mario. It's a revamped, hour-long analysis of the original Paper Mario trilogy from N64 to GameCube to Wii.
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0:00 - Opening
0:11 - Paper Mario (N64)
8:20 - Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
28:47 - Super Paper Mario
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And here’s a handful of Dark Aspects that didn’t make the cut:
1. In the N64 game, there’s “Toad Town Underground News'” that can be found scribbled on the back of the Toad Town notice board--it’s updated with every chapter that passes! One anonymous Toad writes: “Did you hear the gossip about Princess Peach? I can't write it down here because it's unbelievable!♥♥♥”. There’s also this message later: “We'll send you beautiful photos of Princess Peach. To inquire about this special offer, please send a letter to the following address:
Toad Town Post Office
P.O. Box 7144
Secret Toad
We will accept no complaints or returned goods."
2. In the Japanese version of the original, there’s this Chuck Quizmo question: "What best describes the relationship between Mario and Luigi? 1) Lovers 2) Friends 3) Brothers". In the English version, "Lovers" was changed to "Neighbors" for obvious reasons
3. “Cherbils” in the game are creatures who are literally shaped like butts. Because of this, O’Chunks mentions his wanting to spank Mario & gang like “naughty little Cherbils”. When describing where they shoot harmful gas, Tippi even gets flustered! More seriously, The Super Mario Wiki brings up a theory that they may be a nod to the city of Chernobyl, Ukraine- victim of a 1980’s nuclear disaster that caused poison clouds to loom over its skies for months
4. When the Cragnons are brainwashed the player can defeat them like any other enemy. Doing so will result in a haunting moan and a reduction of points that allow you to level up
5. In the Super Paper Mario arc of the Super Mario-kun manga, Mr. L takes a Pure Heart and rubs it on his bare booty to taunt Mario 😆 this scene was even translated into English for the Super Mario Manga Mania collection! See it as part of my review of the book here: ruclips.net/video/hLNvl0f5v14/видео.html
I've always wondered if the Cragnon thing can make you level down.
@@archagenteverlasting1239 that is a great question I never considered! I'll have to look into it--if I can't find an answer online I'll test it myself sometime next week (hold me to it lol)
How about the fact the Underwhere and Overwhere's rulers are implied to be divorced exes and their daughter has to sacrifice her life to become the heart. As in neither her mother or father, the literal rulers of death, will be able to go there or see her again (at least until the post game reversed it)
There is a difference between a slur and an insult. In this case, brown-noser/brown-nosing/etc is being used as an insult, which is its default use. *Kind of like calling someone a "Teacher's Pet" in school. Just adults don't normally bully the person over it.* It became a common saying outside of the military at one point, used a lot in offices and other workplaces, to express frustration over someone you perceive as sucking up to the boss too much. Another term would be "[person/company]'s Lap Dog".
Not particularly hateful and not aimed at a race, orientation, or religion, or lifestyle; so not a slur. Just a swear (if that) about a person's actions when they try to be overbearingly annoying in their quest to please the bossman/woman/whoever is in power where you are at.
biased, but facts
I love how Super Paper Mario takes up nearly half of the video. it will probably be the most lore a Paper Mario game will ever have. Awesome vid
Much like how MOTHER 3 took up two thirds of the Dark Aspects of MOTHER compilation 😅 I think you're right--we will probably never get a game like Super Paper Mario again
Same
Actually it takes up just *over* half the videos time, but it is pretty cool. Super paper Mario is a awesome game
I think Super Paper Mario has the most lore out of every single Mario game.
Something I love (and find funny) about Super Paper Mario is that Luigi is literally the deciding factor of whether good or evil wins.
Dementio even says that the Dark Prognosticus says that Luigi is the ideal host for the power of the Chaos Heart. Dementio also says the line, "How could I have lost with the power of Luigi and the Chaos Heart?" (The power of Luigi.) And I'm pretty sure Merlon says something about "the man in green" being the thing that will help decide whether the Light or Dark Prognosticus comes true.
Talk about finally realizing the importance of Luigi since he could've been the actual downfall of every dimension.
doesn't Luigi also save the world or something during Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon's Paranormal Chaos?
Luigi is the Antichrist confirmed
Dimentio: I'll send those heroes your way soon, just so you'll have someone to play with.
*Literally kills Luigi and sends him to the afterlife*
This is literally Dimentio telling Luigi that hes gonna kill all of his friends after he dies.
but he recovered his senses and become against dimentio, but later he became brainwashed again, that was his plan.
Honestly, the audience that Hooktail ate are probably fine, at least physically if not psychologically. After all, Koops's dad made it out unscathed, and he was eaten much earlier.
Agreed, if Mario doesn't save them they could probably find a way out of Hooktail's corpse 😅
Disagree, he chewed them up. It can be assumed Koops dad was swallowed whole.
If u jump on hooktail after he eats them they come out of his mouth alive lol
@@KAHCOHHreally??
Well the dad is also in a defensive shell
Can we talk about how Ghost T died? A poison mushroom accidentally got added to his plate of food in the dining car and it killed him. Sounds a lot like finding out a new food allergy and the ending being bad. Or in another little bit of fridge horror imagine the same thing happening in real life. A poisonous mushroom accidentally gets picked and ends up in the supermarket, or on your plate in a restaurant. People aren't perfect and accidents happen...
Great point, thanks for adding this. I totally could've talked about how he died! Love your profile pic, by the way 😄
"Fridge horror" I like that term
I don't know how the supermarkets get their mushrooms, but in the US this is actually a big problem! The death cap mushroom is invasive in the forests of California; in their native home in Asia everyone knows not to eat them, but here in the US they just happen to look nearly indistinguishable from a common species of edible mushroom.
@@GarryDumblowski Wild mushrooms don't get sold in US supermarkets; there's too much risk and liability. They're grown and farmed under controlled conditions by professionals. Half of all mushrooms sold in America are produced in one county in Pennsylvania, and they take food safety very seriously because it's the entire basis of their local economy.
@@cyanmanta Ahhh, that makes sense. Now that I think about it, I should have imagined that mushroom farmers wouldn't just put any random mushroom up for sale LMAO
You missed the dysfunctional rich family with the toad author in the west side in TTYD. Why dysfunctional? The wife of the toad author is addicted to gambling and neglects feeding her kid to go gamble at the parlor all day. The depressed Toad author also seemingly ignores or neglects his kid in order to write a book. Goombella even mentions the mother in the parlor spending too much time in the parlor instead of her kid lol. So in this one family we have Gambling addiction, child neglect/abuse, depression from the author and loneliness coming from the kid. Thousand year door was great but wild.
Super Paper Mario is seriously underrated.
Its a fucking horrible game they lost their way
It’s my favorite of the “Paper Mario” games
12:27 that scared the heck out of me out as a kid. I though they were just dead. Hearing that you can save them gives me a weird sense of closure lol.
I didn't know you could save them either, because it's easier/more effective to use the hammer in this case!
Luigi’s adventures from TTYD really adds a lot to the universe. To me, there’s a lot of events just as insane as Rogueports happening all around that world, and unfortunately for some of them, Mario isn’t there to help
its funny how pm64 only have a few darker bits and then ttyod starts with ''welcome to rogueport, we hang people here''
Which is ironic considering most Mario characters have no necks.
The shadow queen and her purple speech box/black candles freaked me out as a kid. But it was done it such an ingenious way that it wasn’t too frightening for a little kid while it also instilled some fear and urgency to give meaning to the final fight… and all to give you 2 star points after defeating her
Well, when you’ve killed an apocalyptic doomsday goddess, you don’t need to get any stronger.
out of all the terrifying things that happen in super paper mario (death, brainwashing ect) the scariest part of it by far is the one puzzle where you have to type please 8 times in a row, truly scary stuff
18:32 Luigi's adventure might actually be a reference to a Japanese legend, the story of Susano'o and Orochi. (It's also one of the beginning story arcs of the video game Okami.) Sasano'o is the brother to the goddess Amaterasu, however he got banished for reasons I won't get into in this comment, you just need to know he was traversing through the mortal realm for awhile. So our protagonist Susano'o came across this family, who are forced to sacrifice one of their daughters to Yamata no Orochi. Orochi is an 8 headed serpent, similar to the two headed snake Luigi fought on his adventure. Susano'o takes pity on the family and decides to kill Orochi. Susano'o disguises the daughter as a comb and hides her in his hair. Some say he cross dressed, others say he just waltzed right up to Orochi, either way, he made the serpent get absolutely smashed on alcohol and killed it. He also got a sword out of the serpent's tail, which he gave to Amaterasu as an apology gift, unbanishing him. Susano'o might not have made Orochi kill itself Ouroboros style like Luigi did, but there is a clear inspiration from the old tale.
One other not mentioned in Paper Mario 64 is Rosie the Rose and her calloused attitude about Lily dying due to lack of water. She flat out says her wanting to be beautiful is more important than Lily’s life and eventually only agrees to give up the Water stone if you bring her something more beautiful and even then prefaces it with her only agreeing because she needs flowers like Lily alive to admire her beauty.
I spent so, so long as a kid looking for Black and Tippi post-game.
Wasn’t planning on watching an hour long video on Paper Mario.
Now I am, thanks Thane!
You are welcome 😆 let me know know you thought if you did decide to watch it all the way through!
@@ThaneGaming So I ran through it all! Honestly I did like how you broke down your points, kept it creative throughout, and paced yourself pretty well! I don’t exactly have the best attention span but I never really found myself drifting off and switching to something else! Now the matter of me *remembering* any of it? Yeah I have terrible memory! Haha, so likely not, BUT I do happen to rewatch long videos frequently so-!
But yeah! Thanks again! Super awesome getting to talk to you too!
It really sucks that after Super Paper Mario, the creativiaty and quality drops due to executive medeling. Instead of expanding on the Paper Mario universe, it regresses. I do have hope that eventually Nintendo stops being stupid and restarts at being creatieve.
Sticker Star really was disappointing to me because it marks the drop in creativity you're talking about--I really do love what the team was able to come up with for Color Splash and The Origami King despite limitations but I agree, I do wish Nintendo would grant Intelligent Systems the flexibility we see with these first three entries again.
@@ThaneGaming Sticker Star was actualy the game that introduced me to the series and even before I new of the original trilogy's exitence I still belive that the game sucks.
@@spouwnerring if you have the switch, give the first game a try. It's my 2nd favorite in the series behind the thousand year door. I honestly couldn't get into the third game due to the removal of the RPG style mechanics and haven't played any paper mario that followed. The thousand year door is definitely recommended but receiving a copy isn't cheap unless you have other ways of playing GameCube games *cough* emulate *cough*....
@@spouwnerring Me who really likes Sticker Star : Fair enough
Okay, I didn't know the plot of super paper mario until watching this, that's one hell of an emotional rollercoaster for a mario game
I mean I knew that the game was dark, just by hearing bits and pieces about it. But I didn’t know it was THAT dark. Like wow.
Super Paper Mario was the first paper mario game I played as a kid and I was so surprised how much story the game had and how well that story was written. I fell in love with the game especially after I finished it so imagine my surprise when I went online to see if everyone loved it as much as I did and so many people were shitting on it lol. To this day I'll never understand the hate this game got, it's more revered now thankfully but back then I hardly saw anything positive about it. Although, I can admit that at that point I had never played the other two and all anyoned did was compare them so I suppose I was a bit biased towards SPM but its such a good game!
Paper Mario: Happy Storybook adventure
Thousand Year Old Door: A Shonen adventure with dark undertones.
Super: Neon Genesis Evangelion
I’m surprised you didn’t talk about how tragic Squirp’s story is. poor thing nearly made me tear up
I showed TTYD to my friend for the first time recently and he thought that Mario’s wave was the Nazi salute. It’s was pretty funny actually. On top of the noose in the middle of town and heads on spikes and the gang war, there was also that. It was a very interesting Mario experience for him indeed!
Wow, I was just thinking about the paper mario games and this popped up. Truly a new years miracle.
Awesome 😄 I know the original just came out on Nintendo Switch Online, so between that and The Origami King I hope more people are thinking about these games (and choose to try them out for the first time if they haven't yet)!
Oh, my dear Count Bleck...
I do think Bowser has gotten better since his sillier RPG days. In such cases, he reclaimed his title as 'Final Boss' after not having it in 3 Mario & Luigi games. Though, Bowser vs Dark Bowser does make for a fun and intense fight.
I legit nearly teared up at a few parts in this vid, which is odd because I rarely cry these days. that letter from the bob omb's dead wife in particular just killed me
As a major fan of Paper Mario I really appreciate this video
Thanks for checking it out! I'm a huge fan too, the original has been in the top 3 of my favorite games of all time list for years.
You sir inspired me to play through the earthbound/mother series and I must say it's now my top 3 RPGs
That makes me happier to hear than you know! I'm always stoked to see others trying these games out for the first time and loving them. MOTHER 3 has been in my top 3 favorite games of all time list since I first played the game and it's not moving 😁
Dude same! I never got a chance to play it when I was younger cause I wasn’t in the US then! Now I’ve been playing it (and suffering because MY DAD WONT STOP CALLING ME, AAAAA)
That’s awesome that hes showing how great the series is and actually influencing people to play that awesome series.
Oh man, one thing you could have mentioned is that in one trouble ("Tell That Person...") The character Eve, who is the mother from Twilight town, will talk about her lost love with Podley, who met her when they were apparently both stage performers, before marrying her and then leaving her and the three kids. If you come by and ask Podley about her, he will pretend that he never knew her.
She also says in a later EMail that she "can't completely remember the hard times," which to me suggests that she may have used substance to cope with her emotions, especially considering her past in performance and her collapsing relationship. That's just speculation on my end though!
Woah, thank you for this! I really want to do a 100% replay of TTYD again...I am hoping for a re-release of some kind (along with any other GameCube games lol).
@@ThaneGaming here's hoping for a vc port or something. I doubt we see an actual remake though.
@@LuckyHamburger if we were to get a remake I think it'd be the original Paper Mario, but I doubt that would happen either. I'm sure GameCube could be a tier as part of a new Online Expansion Pack but I'd rather have standalone releases 😅
Im glad I played Super Paper Mario a long while back. It's the only game I hadn't played at that point. Im so glad as I was missing out on a great adventure.
I love all the games (well except sticker star), so now everything finally feels complete.
Video: is about the first three games and is a collection of videos released before 2020
Description: “Games: Paper Mario: The Origami King, 2020”
I'll have to remember to go in and change that manually--the game RUclips matches it with is usually close but wrong 😆
@@ThaneGaming to be fair, if you're gonna talk about dark aspects of Paper Mario, Origami King is the prince of dark aspects
What, we all know Super will always be the king.
Yes, this is expected in the environment to get things working through the good(nah) ol' algorithm.
I don't see a problem with that honestly.
I wanted to comment on a few things about this video here:
9:24 - I’m not sure why I pronounced that “robo-gang” as if they’re robots lol, their names are clearly a play on robbers
33:33 - The 12th Pixl shown here with the spear & shield isn’t actually a real Pixl design--it was a photoshop creation by me. I did this because only 11 of the 12 original Pixls can actually join Mario (they are implied to be the same ones from the legend), so the 12th is likely the one who died fighting the Pixl Queen, as Carson mentions. We aren’t given any hints as to what this lost Pixl looked like, but there is an unused ladder-like Pixl found in an early version of the title screen (and, you know…Breadward. The Pixl mentioned by Mimi supposedly made out of oats and lard)!
50:55 - I didn’t know this at the time, but 108 is considered a holy number in Hinduism, Jainism, and Buddhism. This means that all of these numbers have purpose, as 42 is the answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything 😆
54:45 - The Floro King does revive later on if the player revisits the palace after they beat the game--though at the point in the story, Mario was made to dispatch a leader under the influence of who’s actually at fault.
I spent about two full days making small adjustments to the original episodes to compile for this longform video. Here is a list of changes:
• I tweaked the narration for better flow by rearranging jokes, cutting out unnecessary segments, and removing misspoken words
• Smoothed out video & audio transitions
• Replaced the previous N64 gameplay footage by RedFalconGames with my own playthrough
• Changed the music for the original game’s analysis
• Included a text-only segment about Kolorado’s father at 12:20
I wanted to make this because of the positive response to my Dark Aspects of MOTHER compilation. Hopefully, more people can see my coverage of the original Paper Mario trilogy this way! If you want to watch some Dark Aspects episodes on the modern Paper Mario games, you can find them in this playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLK37aGUr9BMWmBCq49u-_-KmuOIHKdzMk
…Sticker Star episode on its way?
Hi
The original pixl was implied to be a version of Tippi before Timpani.
There is also a..possible pixl in the overthere. There's a chest like all the others that had pixls, but it does not open.
@@Jaydove2387 really? I don't remember seeing anything like that in my research but I could be wrong. Do you know where the 12th original's appearance is mentioned?
I was 6 years old when I first started playing Super Paper Mario. I had no idea about the lore, often skipping most stuff to get to the gameplay. However, this bastard called Mimi was the reason why it took me 8 years to get the game from start to finish, I was so scared of her until I grew up to endure the nightmare fuel.
I actually remember being so close to finishing Super Paper Mario, but then at Count Bleck's castle I accidentally softlocked myself. I've not played it since...
I love The Glitzville chapter, too !
Reminds me of the Gold Saucer. I think Paper Mario TTYD was heavily inspired by Final Fantasy 7
One of my favourite video game series, it was a major surprise to see this pop up in my feed but a very welcoming one at that. Can't wait to see what I may have overlooked over the years, dark or innuendo-ridden haha (and seeing the stuff from the comment of the content that didn't make the cut oh mann surprised some of that was even in the first game). The first three games, though the second and third moreso, were already dark and amazing in their own way, so to see potentially even more is potentially insanee
It's one of my favorite video game series as well, despite how divisive the newer games are amongst fans. I'm glad this video was a nice surprise, and that you read my comment about things I didn't get to in the video!
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All good dude, yeahh the newer games have been split fans heavily but all in all all most of the games (most cause uh... Sticker Star hahaha) in the series have something to offer and are enjoyable in their own sense haha (at least I feel like they aree, Colour Splash has great visuals, music and writing, and Origami King has that too with the bonus of some really hard hitting moments as well. Despite their limitations on stuff like character designs and stories that deviate from Nintendo's vision of a Mario game, the devs have done a really good job, I feel, trying to amp it up everywhere else).
And yea, it was actually a really insightful video. I was really surprised to hear stuff like Shadow Queen inventing the Pit of 100 Trials for torture, and was also surprised to see so much information about SPM that I had never even known about, from the entire in depth back story about the Ancients and uh... how passionate they were hahaha (like I always thought that the Sammer Guys weren't related to each other, just some dudes hired by the King, but to hear all 100 of them are siblings and children of the King and his lover?? Bruh hahaha) to how the Ancients created the Pixls for work using the Dark Prognosticus (surprising how its implied the book existed before them, wonder how was it even created??), even small stuff like Mimi's lost identity and O'Chunk's tragic past!
Made me wonder a bit about the game too. Maybe this is a bit too dark, but Bobbery's wife is named Scarlette and they died of an unknown illness, I wonder if they were named that cause of Scarlet Fever. Or with a passing comment/theory I saw of Dimentio specifically stating "The Power of Luigi" when lamenting how he lost in the finale, and how this power was formed through Luigi's negative emotions of being the shadow of Mario, something like that haha
(Sorry for the ramble haha, I get carried away)
Found this Channel because of the Mother stuff and I have to say your presentation and editing is getting a lot better. I’m excited to see more and I love the Paper Mario series. Thanks for the content!
I learned quite a few things from this video. Thanks, man. I also like the occasional jokes in the video editing.
42:30 If I recall correctly, somewhere it says that Mimi (her name comes from "mimick", right? I'm not sure I ever noticed. Well, English isn't my first language.) forgot what her original form was. So I wouldn't call that spider her true form. Also, Mimi is a machine at 43:03? Damn.
35:21 the fact he went down to insanity that the world is ending
I love these games! The way they balance darkness and humor is just so well done! Thanks for this analysis!
Thought it was funny how there's a quest in PM64 where two old dudes are exchanging a "tape," and they make such a big deal that Mario can only know about it "when he's older." Definitely didn't pick up on that one as a kid lmaooo
I kid you not.
When I played SPM. I *CRIED* during the credits
i actually want a sequel to the super paper mario game, it was nice and simple and if they really want to get rid of leveling then it makes more sense to remove turn base combat
Right--as much as I do like Color Splash and The Origami King, I found that their turn-based systems were overall more of a detriment than not (especially with the standard enemies--the boss fights I did really enjoy though, moreso with TOK). Super had the opposite problem where standard enemies were more fun but the boss fights were too easy. If they tweaked SPM's formula a bit, they could really make an engaging gameplay system
They have a lot of story to work with, with SPM imo. World building as well. There’s so many strange details that allow for possibilities rather than objects in the game existing simply to exist. Sure, it may sound like a bit of a stretch for a game that isn’t a favorite for most, but it’s definitely there.
13:39 bring in the Jazz boys 😎
1 Minor correction. The void doesn't actually increase, your universe just gets closer too it. Each square is a dimension getting sucked in.
watching these videos is really entertaining and reveals things i never really heard or thought about when playing these games. Especially given i grew up playing the Paper Mario series
I love Super Paper Mario with all of my heart, this made me so incredibly happy to hear that someone appreciates all the little details that went into the story of the game, as much, or more than I do ❤️ definitely one of my new favorite videos!! Thoroughly enjoyed this! Thank you!
Wonderful work! Loved this so much!
I would have thought in the Super Paper Mario video, you would've mentioned "the disk" from the Picollo sidequest. It may have been a reference to "the tape" and "the package" Amazing video regardless!
I never knew that the bones that Koops thought were his dad were actually Kolorado’s father. But then again, I haven’t played that game in about a decade so that detail may have slipped away from my memory.
Amazing way to start off the New Year, thank you Thane Gaming!
Your channel is incredible! You deserve way more subs
I have also two points.
First its about the Crystal Palace. The Magician in the Star Valley, i guess it was Merlons Nephew or sth, tells the player that the Crystal Palace was ,,overrun'' by the troops of the Crystal King. Kinda weird to say it like that. Think about that the Crystal Palace is quiet like a graveyard and the kinda Creepy Music, i was always thinking that, just maybe the palace guards all have been Brutally murdered there in the fight as the Crystal King arrives. Just a Theory....but idk.
Second a very Creepy Aspect about The Doopliss Story. Me as a german has obviously played the german Version. Here his Name is ,,Rumpel''. This Actually comes from an Old German Kids Story Called ,, Rumpelstilzchen''. There the Man called Rumpelstilzchen, wants to steal the Queens Kid and....wants to eat the Kid. And first cook it. The Queen must discover his Name in i believe seven Days it was or the kid dies. Yes...wtf😮😂 And yes we in Germany have the Creepiest kid Storys Ever😅😊
You broke the code fella, one does not simply talk about "The Tape"
Super paper mario was always my favorite for the story and gameplay
i prefer it a little more than the rpg gameplay
Been replaying the original on virtual console. Such a great game!
I also agree the first is better than TYD and Super. Both are great games, but there's a magic in the first that they never captured again.
I finally got around to playing SPM. I couldn't do it previously because the Wii remote was the spawn of Satan to me as a kid. Definitely the best Paper Mario.
I'm at work and saw this and this looks like a banger can't wait to clock out
Great video(s)! Absolutely love the original three Paper Mario games.
My favorite “dark aspect” definitely has to be Count Bleck’s story.
One full hour? This one is quite the treat!!!
Not 100% on the Japanese version, but it's not quite a glaring fetish thing with Hooktail in at least the Spanish version (it's just, "Observe the claws of my feet?"), which could be the case in the non-localization. Also apparently male in that version.
*Edit:* Baah, I overwrote your heart on this comment by editing it so much, Thane ._. whoops
Rereading comments today, just had to give it another heart! 😄 Thanks for the info, it's always cool to hear about how localization is handled in other languages
Got recommended the Earthbound marathon on a whim and I rarely say this but king you've got me hooked 😳
I think Mimi is the original Pixl. The Pixl Queen.
I guess if the toads were still stuck in her stomach, they could just "crawl towards the light," as it were and eventually get to freedom.
22:35 Franz Kafka's "Metamorphosis"??? In which the man of the house is rendered into a beetle and can no longer provide for his family???
Time to watch the full video now I guess
Hurray! Let me know what you think if you do decide to watch it all.
@@ThaneGaming I really liked it the editing is pretty good and it said some very interesting stuff i never knew about good job like always :)
Oh boy, can't wait to watch all this
If you do watch it all, let me know what you think and if it was in parts or all at once!
The tape dialogue in Japanese is even more suspicious. 😂 There was also a dirty book or magazine in an earlier Koopa Koot quest I think, but it was more censored in English (still not outright inappropriate in Japanese though ofc)
13:35 killed me
God I'm not the only one 😂
Best timing ever
Paper Mario, known in Japan as Mario Story.
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, known in Japan as Paper Mario RPG.
Great video!
Toads have blood!?!?
This was quite insightful, most of these did realize when I was younger. Will you be doing Color Splash and Origami King?
I've actually already covered both games! The Color Splash video was made a long time ago, but the information is still good. I recommend the Origami King analysis for sure though, I spent a long time on it! Here's the link, just scroll down in the playlist: ruclips.net/p/PLK37aGUr9BMWmBCq49u-_-KmuOIHKdzMk
@@ThaneGaming Thanks!
Love the series. I think I'll play it again :)
51:04The funny thing about the numbers the door tells you is that they all have some sort of meaning. 667 and 13 are obviously the number of the beast and the unluckiest number respectively. 42 is the meaning of life, and 108 is how many "roots of suffering" are in the world in the buddhist religion
Any of the curseyas always scared me when I played super paper mario not too long ago
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I remember watching these way back whenever it came out lol. But this just gave me a reason to watch it again, except get a better grasp on all 3 at once! Awesome 😁
47:14 WhyTheHeckCapsionsGoingSo fast?
Lol thank you again, that is wildly fast 😅 I will fix it later today
@@ThaneGaming no prob. i'm YT Capsions Critic from year or half... or 1/4 idk
even when playing TTYD as a kid I was like, man so Peach is straight up just walking around the base naked huh
Luigi's story with the snake reminds me of Okami and Orochi
at first i thought this was satire, but this is honestly a dop video
love ur content thank you
Paper Mario 64 and TTYD were so, so good. Why did they have to ruin that...
I liked Super for what it was, and I'm even a big fan of Color Splash & The Origami King. With that said though, I do prefer the battle/leveling up systems of the first two games and I really want to see that return (I'd certainly take a remaster of 64/TTYD too. Heck, even a port of TTYD at this point since its only ever been released on GameCube).
Super gets such a bad rap. It has an amazing story, it tried doing something different than turn based combat and came up with a genuinely great combat system that combined RPG and OG Mario mechanics. If SPM wasn't a part of the Paper Mario franchise, it would've been lauded as one of the best Mario games ever
@@greatbrandini3967 I respect your opinion but politely disagree by a considerable margin. I genuinely found Super to be a very mediocre game with bad and boring platforming + combat, very undercooked 2D/3D flipping mechanics, very ugly art direction including unmemorable partner characters, and overwrought writing. Not the worst game I've ever played, no, but I'd put it around Color Splash or Origami King in terms of quality. I admire how Super was willing to go out there and be something really different; I just personally didn't think it worked well, which was a bitter letdown coming directly after TTYD. I believe that Sticker Star and Color Splash releasing was the best thing to ever happen to SPM, honestly. Just my two cents of course as I know many out there do love Super, especially people whose first console was the Wii.
@@flyforce16 I'll agree on some of your points. I don't think it's the art so much as the character/enemy design that's off putting. My first console was an N64, and I even remember the trailer for the original Paper Mario (Bowser had Peach tied up over a paper shredder). I rented the original from Blockbuster countless times, and I bought TTYD and beat it at least 6 times. This was all before SPM, which I think I beat in about 2 weekend's of play. I was disappointed in how easy the final boss was and wished the fight had been harder, especially when compared to The Shadow Queen and Bonetail. At the end of the day, I recognized that the other Pixls just weren't really the main cast, and Tippi, Count Bleck, and the other villains were the true main cast. Bowser and the X-Nauts were extremely underwhelming and were nothing more than your typical video game villains who are completely unrelatable.
After playing through SPM, I knew it was inferior to PM and TTYD and figured the games should go back to the old combat system and it would be fine. Well, we all saw how Sticker Star turned out, and I'd much rather replay SPM over any of the other newer entries, though I gotta say that Origami King was at least good enough for me to call it replayable, despite the horrendously boring combat system against normal enemies
@@greatbrandini3967 A great response. Thank you!
if you think you are Dark and stuff, Remember there is MARIO game with TWO episodes of Dark Aspects that isn't THYD but more colorful game
Kolorado's dad is a Dry Bones.
13:10 Capsion error: there is no inbetween of this and next sentece here about Tubba Blubba Animation
Dimentio is the reason that sticker star and color splash’s battle system exist
Super Paper Mario will always be my favourite
Madame flurrie is my type of cloud woman. She can squash me with her stage presence any time
6:50 i don't know if Capsions man knows it but Capsions in Voiced videos are for showing what someone said not what you would say
Thanks, I missed that so I just fixed it
All this time I never knew whackas were endangered... I feel bad now
There's also the fact that the X-nauts might be based on the Natzis.
Wasn't too fond on Super Paper Mario's story personally. I think it was stretching things for Mario in a way I'm not a fan of.
While creative freedom is good. I felt at that point they stopped telling a story about Mario they were telling a story which just happened to feature the Mario characters were just shunted into roles that don't fit. I really didn't like in SPM that the reason Mario is the chosen hero is just because the Book says so, or that Luigi is very important because the book says so. I thought the prophecies were kind of a cheap way to let them basically take the plot wherever they wanted to without any natrual build up.
I think this lead to conflicts between SPMs writing and pre-established expectations for characters. SPM has a strange opening where they have Luigi be really brave and competent, and leading some of Bowser's minions in Blecks Castle until he gets mind controlled. Then he's sinister as Mr. L and then when he's cured of the mind control he stops being brave and is cowering in the Underwhere. It's like Luigi is being pulled two directions, by the brave "Man in Green" IS wrote for SPM and the skittish, clumsy character you expect from Luigi being pre-established Mario and previous Paper Marios.
SPM Bowser's ridiculously stupid and soft and always loses, when in general Mario he's cunning and tends to initially get the better of Mario by exploiting whatever power is available. It's kind of out of character that he had absolutely no interest in the Chaos Heart's power.
While SS didn't have much of any story, I sort of think Paper Mario did benefit from reigning in the stories. Color Splash and Origami King have more grounded scenarios and as a result there doesn't really need to be prophecies to excuse Mario's role as hero, and the characters are more in-line with previous iterations of them.
To be fair to Luigi he's portrayed as a bit of a braggart in the Paper Mario games, wanting the attention Mario has, as he was jealous in his diary in PM64, and bragged about his adventure in PMTTYD despite it not fully true.
Shiver city has the best vibes. Idk what it is but i know that it’s true.
Wait "don't just assume" is a joke about the spelling? Can't believe I'm only finding this out now
50:56 108 is also a bad number I forget how it goes exactly but there is this thing that traps 108 evil spirits and the only reason why I know this is because of spiritomb from Pokémon which is based off of that concept
The book/shooting star is post chapter 6, not post chapter 3.
Thanks for the correction! Past me got this wrong and I didn't catch it while rewatching 😅
What is that pixl with the spear and shield I’ve never seen that one before
That spear & shield one isn’t actually a real Pixl design--I made it in photoshop! I did this because only 11 of the 12 original Pixls can actually join Mario (they are implied to be the same ones from the legend), so the 12th is likely the one who died fighting the Pixl Queen, as Carson mentions. We aren’t given any hints as to what this lost Pixl looked like, but there is an unused ladder-like Pixl found in an early version of the title screen
You forgot to mention that there's an item in the games called a strange leaf that looks like marijuana