Sugimori: "we don't have enough fish pokémon." Luvdisc: "pick me! pick me! make Alomomola my evo!" Sugimori: "we have to give Basculine 2 forms, there's no other way to solve this."
I think Alomomola could have been Luvdisc's evolution but you couldn't find Luvdisc in the wild, you would find Alomomola at a higher level and would have to breed to get a Luvdisc. That and "no moth Pokemon" when we had Mothim, but it is rather forgettable to be honest.
It doesn´t evolve into it because the intention with the unova games was to make a experience similar to the one in the gen 1 games. Where every pokemon was brand new. And that´s also why so many unova pokemon are like parallels to the concepts and designs of the gen 1 pokemon.
@Deso Lark I do love myself some Unova pkmn, but I do miss transgenerational evolutions, & older forgotten pkmn could have been used to fill the new dex, as most of the stupid designs are filler pkmn, like Basculin.
Bless Sudo and Snorlax. Brings back memories of when Red and Blue first came out, we were all 10 (appropriately) and could not figure out how to get the Tea to get into Saffron City, and the Sprinkle Bottle to get past Sudo.
I don´t think that he was saying that Timburr, the weather trio, vanillite and throh were bad designs but rather that they were hard designs to come up with because part of their concepts included traits that at the time were not that common (like carrying objects, being based on food, or having inspirations that were a bit more complex than just being primarily based on an animal).
It was a universe where Regigigas was banned to Ubers and Slowbro got banned from the competitive scene all together because it was too stupid to take damage. And Charizard received NO attention. But sadly Landorus was created and that universe went bye bye
So Sohk and Throh were mean to look like red and blue oni! Interesting indeed! I wish we had more pokemon based on Yokai to be honest. Frosslass references/is based on the Yuki Onna, Mawile is based on the Fuchisake Onna, and I know there are others I am missing as well.
Pretty much any object based Pokémon is based on a Tsukumogami Ninetails is a Kitsune Electabuzz is an Oni Jynx is a Yama-uba Shiftry is a Tengu Ludicolo is a Kappa The list goes on
Volcarona is even funnier when you realize that Gen 2 was the only one thus far without a moth Pokemon, and depending on if Vivilon is a moth or not; was the last moth until Gen 8 got us adult Snom
I grew up moving schools alot, and i also didnt have alot of friends. I love animals and Pokémon fits perfectly in my childhood because i remember ash cuddling in the snow storm with his Pokémon
Hi HoopsandHipHop I love your videos you are an awesome RUclipsr! Your content is always insightful and interesting and I learn something new when watching your vids
I liked Basculin as soon as I saw it, and learning that it was basically a last-minute decision to add more fish to Unova didn't alter my opinion of it any.
I love Oshawott, Dewott, and Samurott even more now. And I am even more proud that I chose Oshawott as my first ever Pokémon partner all those 10 years ago.🥰
4:12 damn. Really shows how forgettable Mothim is ☠️ I did really enjoy the video bro! Really interesting to see the different circumstances or needs that determined what Pokémon were created and how.
Timburr line unpopular?? Always been one of my favorites. I refuse to believe its line and the forces of nature are unpopular. Lando T is one of the most used mons competitively. Very far from unpopular. I'ma need some stats for that shit from someone please. lol.
FUN FACT! Electrode was made in a coding error when trying to make a pokeball. It was then given the ability to explode and made into an annoying pokémon.
I’ve been watching more and more of your videos Hoops and you’re by far my fave pokètuber! Thank YOU for all the work you do! I am always so entertained by your videos 💙💙
I love hoops as well very knowledgeable and easy to watch. Have you checked out other poketubers though? Mandjtv, lockstinandknoggin, trugreen7 i love all these guys and watch them all the time. Not trying to steal your thunder hoops just spreading love
Wow, I'd always assumed that Sudowoodo was made simply because they wanted to continue the "road block" Pokémon trend. Especially since the first three gens all have one such Pokémon (Keckleon in Gen III).
I really like sawk and thro. But I always wondered where they obtain judo outfits in the wild? Same with hitmonchan and his skirt or machoke and his trunks
Finally gotten a chance to watch your video at work and then I had a strange thought, what if entei was the new regional variant of growlithe I mean Johto and sinnoh have been shown to be connected thanks to the sinjoh ruins and the burned tower was a temple at one time, fitting growlithe's lion dog origin as well
Rhonda Rousey once said she would wanna fight Sawk or Throh in the octagon,back when she was a UFC fighter.she also said she wants a dragon-fighting type pokemon
Sock and Troh having horns would have been pretty cool tho. That's because of a japanese folktale of the red and blue Oni. And they seem to have resembled Oni with those horns
Masuda: How about a Fuujin pokémon and a Raijin pokémon? Sugimori: It's going to be a challenge making them into pokémon, considering they look so human-like. Entire human-like breeding group: Are we a joke to you?!? Mothim: Not as much as I am... *runs off crying*
even if his not the most remarkable Tornadus have a special place in my heart, he is the 1st shiny legendary i got and possibly my 1st experience with soft resets if it's not Drifloon, anyway i tried for a wile and was geting tired and sad of not geting any result, so i thaught: "ok, one last time, if he didn't show up that metod is probably not for me" and then..it happen ! i was in disbelieve ! and he come to greet me in Christmas Eve, a gift in advance ♡.., and that's why his dear to me ^ w ^, i just wanted to share that story (sorry if i make error ^ ^')
Quilava itself can stand on 2 legs if its artwork and Crystal sprites are anything to go off of. Heck, Cyndaquil does too, but both seem to prefer walking on 4.
I would also like to know how the designers had proceded to come up with such a cutie as Goh, and if sketch or early proto-Gohs did exist and how it develloped and came about how we know it. 😁
A lot of Pokémon with final evolutions that stand on two legs whose previous evolutions that stand on 4 are also able to stand on two legs, just don't always.
It's scary to even think about how you dig for that info. Especially knowing you're not a full time youtuber (we know for sure aside from youtube you do music)
The funniest origin for me was finding out that Snorlax, a BEAR Pokemon, was inspired by Kōji Nishino. Then I look at Nishino's picture and I see it. Gen 5 had a lot going for it but all that potential was killed by the really, really, REALLY bad Pokedex. The Pokemon mostly sucked, with only a few exceptions. Gen 6 went the opposite way. The new Pokemon were few but the selection of old and new Pokemon were great. The map and region was well done. But the lack of things to do and the general lack of challenge was the issue. It honestly felt incomplete. I get the feeling the devs ran out of time to finish since it started well enough, but towards the end seems rushed.
It literally has the word sigil in its name. I have no idea why his pronunciation of it bothers me so much but it just doss. Sigil. Sigilyph. Sigil+glyph.
Sugimori: "we don't have enough fish pokémon."
Luvdisc: "pick me! pick me! make Alomomola my evo!"
Sugimori: "we have to give Basculine 2 forms, there's no other way to solve this."
To be fair unova's thing is having no pokemon from other regions in it so it couldn't be it's evo
@@swampy725 Basculin & other questionable pkmn exist because of that, so they screw themselves putting that limitation.
I think Alomomola could have been Luvdisc's evolution but you couldn't find Luvdisc in the wild, you would find Alomomola at a higher level and would have to breed to get a Luvdisc. That and "no moth Pokemon" when we had Mothim, but it is rather forgettable to be honest.
It doesn´t evolve into it because the intention with the unova games was to make a experience similar to the one in the gen 1 games. Where every pokemon was brand new. And that´s also why so many unova pokemon are like parallels to the concepts and designs of the gen 1 pokemon.
@Deso Lark I do love myself some Unova pkmn, but I do miss transgenerational evolutions, & older forgotten pkmn could have been used to fill the new dex, as most of the stupid designs are filler pkmn, like Basculin.
Bless Sudo and Snorlax. Brings back memories of when Red and Blue first came out, we were all 10 (appropriately) and could not figure out how to get the Tea to get into Saffron City, and the Sprinkle Bottle to get past Sudo.
T-tar: isn't a bug, but has a cocoon stage.
Salamance: isn't a bug, but has a cocoon stage.
Volcarona: is a bug, but hasn't got a cocoon stage.
T-tar?
@@PCG06 Tyranitar
@@PCG06 Tyranitar
@@PCG06 Tyranitar
@@PCG06 Tyranitar
4:08 Mothim is really forgettable, even the creators forgot it
When
Ouch
Yeah at least burmy and wormadam can be remembered by how bad they are but mothim is just blend
Gen 4 was pretty terrible haha
who
I don´t think that he was saying that Timburr, the weather trio, vanillite and throh were bad designs but rather that they were hard designs to come up with because part of their concepts included traits that at the time were not that common (like carrying objects, being based on food, or having inspirations that were a bit more complex than just being primarily based on an animal).
Game Freak: Let's make a new moth Pokemon since we haven't had one in a long time.
Mothim: Am I a joke to you?
Yes, we saw the video.
*cue skinner 'yes' meme*
It’s so amazing how week after week you keep finding new information that a lifelong adult fan like me didn’t know yet.
The universe where Landorus wasn't created must be a very peaceful existence
Competitive double battles would be quite different there
One can only imagine what gen 6 VGC looked like.
It was a universe where Regigigas was banned to Ubers and Slowbro got banned from the competitive scene all together because it was too stupid to take damage. And Charizard received NO attention. But sadly Landorus was created and that universe went bye bye
*vgc2013 ptsd flashback* (OH GOD NO EMBOAR EARTHQUAAAAAAAKEE)
I'd like to shake his hand just to thank him for Eevee. 😂
So Sohk and Throh were mean to look like red and blue oni! Interesting indeed! I wish we had more pokemon based on Yokai to be honest. Frosslass references/is based on the Yuki Onna, Mawile is based on the Fuchisake Onna, and I know there are others I am missing as well.
Pretty much any object based Pokémon is based on a Tsukumogami
Ninetails is a Kitsune
Electabuzz is an Oni
Jynx is a Yama-uba
Shiftry is a Tengu
Ludicolo is a Kappa
The list goes on
Volcarona is even funnier when you realize that Gen 2 was the only one thus far without a moth Pokemon, and depending on if Vivilon is a moth or not; was the last moth until Gen 8 got us adult Snom
If Throh and Sawk were given horns, they could be clearly based on Oni.
Considering how narrow a path needs to be to be blocked by Sudowoodo, travel through Johto must be incredibly bottlenecked.
These backstories are something I really never knew about, fascinating
This video is basically explaining potentially good or just good filler Pokémon
LOL
Okay but Snorlax is a great pokemon and it started just as a literal roadblock
I grew up moving schools alot, and i also didnt have alot of friends. I love animals and Pokémon fits perfectly in my childhood because i remember ash cuddling in the snow storm with his Pokémon
Hi HoopsandHipHop I love your videos you are an awesome RUclipsr! Your content is always insightful and interesting and I learn something new when watching your vids
If sawn and throh were actually intended to be related in some way, I think they might have overcome a bit of the criticism that came their way
@@milessaxton Yeah or maybe if they were like forms like urshifu
I liked Basculin as soon as I saw it, and learning that it was basically a last-minute decision to add more fish to Unova didn't alter my opinion of it any.
10:50 makes sense. They did some terrible pokemon designs in gen 4
Which ones are you thinking of specifically?
I love Oshawott, Dewott, and Samurott even more now. And I am even more proud that I chose Oshawott as my first ever Pokémon partner all those 10 years ago.🥰
Legit surprised Lugia wasn't covered.
4:12 damn. Really shows how forgettable Mothim is ☠️
I did really enjoy the video bro! Really interesting to see the different circumstances or needs that determined what Pokémon were created and how.
Too hard to catch
Also,Volcarona & Larvesta are based on the kaiju Mothra's moth & larva forms
Timburr line unpopular?? Always been one of my favorites. I refuse to believe its line and the forces of nature are unpopular. Lando T is one of the most used mons competitively. Very far from unpopular. I'ma need some stats for that shit from someone please. lol.
People using something because it has competitive viability is not mutually exclusive with people not liking it holistically.
Landorus T is good competetive wise but based on its design alone its ugly as heck also no offense but gurdurr is a monstrosity
I like the forces of nature and the timburr and vanillite families
FUN FACT!
Electrode was made in a coding error when trying to make a pokeball. It was then given the ability to explode and made into an annoying pokémon.
Sugimori: We need a moth because we haven't had one for ages
Mothim and Dustox: Sadness noises
I nearly wrote sandess instead of sadness
I’ve been watching more and more of your videos Hoops and you’re by far my fave pokètuber! Thank YOU for all the work you do! I am always so entertained by your videos 💙💙
I love hoops as well very knowledgeable and easy to watch. Have you checked out other poketubers though? Mandjtv, lockstinandknoggin, trugreen7 i love all these guys and watch them all the time. Not trying to steal your thunder hoops just spreading love
Wow one of my favourite Pokémon design is Sigilyph. Hope we can see the beta.
"Maybe they just forgot about (Mothim)"
That does happen
Wow, I'd always assumed that Sudowoodo was made simply because they wanted to continue the "road block" Pokémon trend. Especially since the first three gens all have one such Pokémon (Keckleon in Gen III).
Throh looks like a DP pokemon lmao
My favourite Pokemon is Eevee and Fennekin.
Wish I could thank him myself huge Eevee evolution fan!
I really like sawk and thro. But I always wondered where they obtain judo outfits in the wild? Same with hitmonchan and his skirt or machoke and his trunks
Especially machoke, considering it apparently can't even properly control its gargantuan muscles without a belt.
Finally gotten a chance to watch your video at work and then I had a strange thought, what if entei was the new regional variant of growlithe
I mean Johto and sinnoh have been shown to be connected thanks to the sinjoh ruins and the burned tower was a temple at one time, fitting growlithe's lion dog origin as well
Cool Oshowott final evolution was based on one of my favorite animals, seals n sea lions!
Rhonda Rousey once said she would wanna fight Sawk or Throh in the octagon,back when she was a UFC fighter.she also said she wants a dragon-fighting type pokemon
Sugimori does have a point with Volcarona. Mothim is kind of forgettable.
Poor Mothim...
Slight correction: Vanillite's line wasn't created by Sugimori, but by James Turner.
Behind the scenes is always interesting
Volcarona is one of my favorite pokemon, ever.
_Our buddy Throh_
Gen 1 had Venomoth, Gen 3 had Dustox 😂
Sock and Troh having horns would have been pretty cool tho. That's because of a japanese folktale of the red and blue Oni. And they seem to have resembled Oni with those horns
Masuda: How about a Fuujin pokémon and a Raijin pokémon?
Sugimori: It's going to be a challenge making them into pokémon, considering they look so human-like.
Entire human-like breeding group: Are we a joke to you?!?
Mothim: Not as much as I am... *runs off crying*
Huh I'm glad they needed more fighting types. Mienfu and Mienshou are some of my favs
Honestly i don't think there's anything wrong with pokémon evolving from standing on 4 legs to 2, i think they look cool
0:18 where did this clip come from I’ve been wondering for a while now
Best poketuber right here! Long live johto btw!
even if his not the most remarkable Tornadus have a special place in my heart, he is the 1st shiny legendary i got and possibly my 1st experience with soft resets if it's not Drifloon, anyway i tried for a wile and was geting tired and sad of not geting any result, so i thaught: "ok, one last time, if he didn't show up that metod is probably not for me" and then..it happen ! i was in disbelieve ! and he come to greet me in Christmas Eve, a gift in advance ♡.., and that's why his dear to me ^ w ^, i just wanted to share that story
(sorry if i make error ^ ^')
*gasp!* the Pokémon creator was responsible for the gift of fairy types that is sylveon? YESS!
Typhlosion is just quilava but a bit bigger and standing on 2 legs, change my mind
Quilava itself can stand on 2 legs if its artwork and Crystal sprites are anything to go off of. Heck, Cyndaquil does too, but both seem to prefer walking on 4.
@@ElPikminMaster then typhlosion is just quilava
@@TheZombo There are various Pokemon that are mostly just bigger versions than its predecessor.
I would also like to know how the designers had proceded to come up with such a cutie as Goh, and if sketch or early proto-Gohs did exist and how it develloped and came about how we know it. 😁
A lot of Pokémon with final evolutions that stand on two legs whose previous evolutions that stand on 4 are also able to stand on two legs, just don't always.
Thor was supposed to be in Gen 4, huh? Perhaps Thor and maybe Sawk could get Hisuian Form in Legends Arceus to make that a reality
It's scary to even think about how you dig for that info. Especially knowing you're not a full time youtuber (we know for sure aside from youtube you do music)
Ah yes the universal equivalent to horns… eyebrows 🤦🏻
12:57 Really? I didn't know Oshawott had a strong pull-out game
Also, Galarian Zigzagoon was the OG Zigzagoon, lore wise.
I has such an interesting backstory! Snoooooooorlaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaax!
Then again, the Burmy line is notorious for being forgettable - a lot of people hate Mothim I have discovered.
Those were my three favorite families in unova 🙃
it sounds like Throh and Sawk were originally influenced by Oni's (considering that they had horns)
What is the theme played in the beginning/background? I know that’s probably the music he makes but does anyone know the name? It Absolutely slaps
Gen5 is full of soulless uncanny gen1 replicas
"Weren't enough fighting types in gen 5" well they overcompensated
I've never heard anyone pronounce Sudowoodo like that before... "suddawuddo"
The funniest origin for me was finding out that Snorlax, a BEAR Pokemon, was inspired by Kōji Nishino. Then I look at Nishino's picture and I see it.
Gen 5 had a lot going for it but all that potential was killed by the really, really, REALLY bad Pokedex. The Pokemon mostly sucked, with only a few exceptions.
Gen 6 went the opposite way. The new Pokemon were few but the selection of old and new Pokemon were great. The map and region was well done. But the lack of things to do and the general lack of challenge was the issue. It honestly felt incomplete. I get the feeling the devs ran out of time to finish since it started well enough, but towards the end seems rushed.
Turns out, Snorlax orgins are in Cwcville as chris chans mom.
Lol gen 1 was a seal gen 2 was lapris and gen 3 went to a blob thing so yea it was really used in what 1 game
i wonder where does he find all this information on
Can u do a part 2 with koffing?
What was the time spacing between Gen 4 and Gen 5?
3 years
@@pn2294 Thank you ^^
in XY Lapras have unique 3D model while surfing
I thought it was mujina was the badger and tanuki was ratcoon dog
13:36 Look at how you massacred my boy...
Ok out of concept.
I always thought Skarmory was a gen 3 pokemon..
Oshawott is cute
Sawk and Throh were supposed to be ONIS? They were robbed.
It literally has the word sigil in its name. I have no idea why his pronunciation of it bothers me so much but it just doss. Sigil. Sigilyph. Sigil+glyph.
Sigilyph doesn’t have a tail!
That was a really bad joke
There’s nothing wrong with the Gen 5 designs.
lets be real, Mothim is so bad its understandable.
Holy crap I'm early for once
Theirs no A in sudowoodo lol and snorlax was created by basing it off the one creator
This video is cool. It's fun to hear the backstory of different elements in the games..........but you mispronounced SO MANY NAMES!!!!!
Pkmn that wear clothes are the weirdest... like.. it's part of their flesh, not actual clothing.. why???
!!
:)
Don't smell me mate, that is just disgusting, man!
I'm early
1:35 "Make it block A path."
But don't let it spawn anywhere else? lol