Love the scene between Apollo and his trainer Duke warning him that Rocky is dangerous. Great lines in that scene alone "Man I won but I didn't beat him" "I saw you beat that man like I never saw any man get beat before, and the man kept coming after you" "We don't need that kind of man in our life". Excellent writing.
A lot of us are lucky enough to have a Duke in our lives, who can ask you "honest?" before telling you something that will hurt, but will better you as a person.
"Man I won but I didn't beat him" I think that's the best line in the movie. I mean, Adrian telling Rocky to "Win!" is great too but the other one is really what drives Apollo.
Duke is my favorite smaller character in the movies. He’s always the voice of reason. And he shows up in most of the franchise, even if briefly. He was also the guy that saw Rocky “means business” in the first one.
I love their reactions but hate how they handle sequels. I mean they watched IT: Part One ten months ago and still hasn't reacted to the second part. Seriously who watches half of a movie and wait over 10 months to watch the rest? It makes no sense.
As I get older I realize that rockys “ strategy” of not insulting or arguing with Apollo Pre match was simply a reflection of his deep and genuine admiration for a superior athlete
Apollo also admitting to Rocky in the hospital that he gave his best when they were alone mustve made Rocky realize that Apollo is only putting up a show and is a good guy too.
I love how, the whole time Rocky was dealing with Adrian being in a coma, Mickey was right by his side. Not pushing him to train or anything. Just being there to support him. Love Mick.
VHS was just starting to gain traction in the home market when this was released. Within a few years video rental stores would be everywhere and the technology would be accessible to most consumers. Prior to VHS, successful films were often re-released in theaters several times after their original run. Also, second-run theaters were much more prevalent.
ahh the 80's - VHS vs Betamax vs Laserdisc. I remember having a birthday party and my parents going to the video store and renting a laserdisc player along with a movie (Krull or The Dark Crystal or something like that).
VCRs weren't common until the late 80s. A lot of video stores also rented whole VCRs. Partly because they were very expencive and partly because the culture was set up for going out to a movie and people had no habit of watching stuff at home. People had real physical hobbies and TV shows certainly weren't good enough to justify recording or binge watching. There were only 3-4 channels anyway so the schedule wasn't a big problem.
VHS tapes being released for direct sale to consumers didn't really get going until about 1990. I remember Batman being the first tape that got mass advertising and it was sold at £10.99. This was about a year after it was at the cinema, 6 months after it came out to rent. Before that if you wanted to buy a newish movie on VHS it cost £60 as they were priced for sale to rental stores who could easily recoup the cost by renting it out many times.
Rocky is such a strong franchise. Of the 9 films (including the Creed films) I honestly only rate V as particularly weak - and even that is worth watching. Rocky is just such a great character.
Rocky V is better than most people give it credit for. I respect the hell out of it for showing what boxing does the Rocky's state of being after all the fights. It's antagonist makes sense I'm considering of the world of professional fighting and how the business of it isn't squeaky clean. His family life makes sense for how it is and it carries been over a bit in the next movie so if people skip it, it seems like it comes out of nowhere. Trying not to get to spoilery but it's better than most people give credit.
Eye of the Tiger was written for Rocky 3. After watching the first 2 movies, Eye of the Tiger was penned following Rockys' carrer. Comming up, going the distance (first movie) and then sliding back into the streets only to go to the top in the end (second movie)
Hey guys, just wanted to drop a little triva in for you. The baby in the movie is actually Sylvester Stallone's oldest son Sergeoah. Not many people know about him. He is still alive but he is severely autistic and very rarely seen in public. I think its only like 1 or 2 pictures of him online. Sylvester Stallone's other son Sage has passed away but he shows up later in Rocky 5.
During the earlier days of VHS, it was rare for a movie to be released right after the theater run. For example, I remember watching E.T. in 1982, and it wasn't out on VHS until 1988.
13:15 You just caught what many people miss. Paulie's character shows us what Rocky could have been ....they come from the same time and the same streets and pervasive lack of opportunity and low education level etc etc etc. I think it highlights that there is something special inside of Rocky.... a virtue or value inside of him that makes the difference. And I think Adrian's character has it as well. What both of them needed to blossom was each other....the support they give each other and having faith in each other. Their love story spans beyond just being in love.... it is instrumental in both of them transcending where they were without each other. This story is very realistic relative to other films of the time but its also far more deep and multilayered than people might think .....possibly distracted from its depth due to the NYC street talking patterns etc
No, no, no, young lady. We went to the movies ALL THE TIME back then and saw movies we loved several times during their initial run and re-releases. It was beautiful. Movies were special and lived in memory, not databases. Movie culture was an activity, not just a click or a swipe. 👴🏼
Movie culture was also an adventure. We practically had to dedicate our time to staying in line to get a ticket. Or even have to drive to different theaters, if a certain movie was sold out.
you could watch this review 24/7 forever if you wanted to, & now you can watch any movie or TV show on a device in your pocket anytime you want to, & somehow that's worse than waiting
Rocky II was for a long time my favorite film EVER. I watched this movie over 264 times, 6 of those times in a movie theater. It changed my life the first time I saw it. It made me believe that you can do anything if you really want it and believe in yourself. Great little film !
No they weren't. They were bought from a pet store for the movie and returned after the movie wrapped. The store owner still had them when the Creed 2 started shooting which is where the 2019 photo comes from
"Butkus" is named after a famous American football player whose full name (Dick Butkus) is even more giggle-inducing. He also did some acting in both films (mostly cameos as himself) and television.
@@davidstone9624 Stallone himself has referred to the dog as "Butkus". I'll admit that I'm assuming it was named after the football player, but I can't think of any other reason to name a dog that.
Punching power is measured in PSI. While it differs in weight class, a heavyweight can hit anywhere from 1200-1700 PSI per punch. A normal person usually throws a punch at around 150 PSI (give or take), so there’s a huge difference. 1700 PSI is about the same force as a pretty solid pressure washer. So it would be like taking a pressure washer blast to the face multiple times. Which PSI will come into play later in this series but don’t want to spoil anything for you guys.
Some figures in SI Units: Heavyweights hit with a speed of about 10 m/s, Featherweights hit with up to 16 m/s. Heavyweights reach a punching powers up to 5500 Newton.
29:00 There is a story about when George Foreman fought Ali. George was completely giving it to him. Getting all the hits. After a while Ali asks him "is that all you got?" in which George replied "yep" and then Ali went to town on him until he won the fight.
@@MS-ro9dm Sly was nominated for best supporting actor for Creed I, and it does a good job showing where Rocky would be that many years after. But for sure, they're increasingly less Rocky movies.
@@MS-ro9dm you're wrong, it absolutely is a continuation. the entire plot of Creed II is built off of Rocky IV. we even get a resolution to Rocky as a character, expanding on what we happened in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa. and Adonis as a character couldn't exist without Apollo. they're Adonis's movies, not Rocky's, but they're still Rocky movies at their core, they're continuing the legacy of the same franchise.
@@MS-ro9dm they do have a different feel because it's about a different character, but i think that analogy is taking it too far. the Creed movies follow the same basic format and cover similar story beats, it's not that drastic of a change from Rocky.
I love how this movie got partly made because people were disappointed that Rocky lost in the first one, so in a sense, the hate mail Apollo gets is representative of the viewers. I can't blame them Rocky II is great. The story is beautiful, and we get to see Rocky and Apollo fight as equals. In the first movie, Apollo didn't take the fight seriously, but in this one, he trains as hard as Rocky, and it's great to see these two exceptional athletes give their all in a fight. Also, yeah, Rocky really likes taking hits; I know that's like his life philosophy that it doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but that you get up again, but still, my man, learn how to block lol.
Back in the 70s, a lot of theatre movies eventually ended up on network TV in a chopped down format, say, as a "Friday Night Movie of the Week." So, you world have a chance to see a movie again, kinda.
So happy about this! I've been hoping you both would react to Rocky II for awhile. The amount of empathy and understanding that the two of you had for the characters and story in the first made me smile so I was eager to see this movie have its moment.
We had VHS, but tapes were around $50-80 dollars. They didn’t start coming down to $20-30 until mid 80s. But many of us also had cable so we could watch movies multiple times during the month they were on.
Exactly. Rocky IV showcases his indomitable will to endure more than the the other guy in epic 80’s fashion (and helps answer Simone’s question about how much force is in a punch). Please continue the Rocky reactions - you are a great duo in the reaction space.
Spoiler- "It's not about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can GET hit..and keep moving forward. How much you can TAKE..and keep moving forward. THAT'S HOW WINNING IS DONE!"-Rocky-"Rocky Balboa"
"I won, but I didn't beat him!" That's what a true champion would say. Carl Weathers is awesome in this series. Also, someone needs to share this with Sylvester Stallone. These are the reactions filmmakers aim for!
Dick Butkus was a well known middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears back in the day. He was so fierce, he was feared by opposing teams. The dog was named after this football player.
Remember *(Back to the future)* was the same way. A sequel wasn't planned. But they started part 2 with the ending scene of part 1. & at the end It told you part 3 would be in theaters in the summer of 1990
There’s some interesting interviews with Sly about the boxing scenes and how they’re not like real boxing matches, and he compares it with stage acting, where everything is exaggerated (because the audience at the back has to see it), so when they did the boxing scenes they intentionally didn’t try to be too realistic.
The introduction was there to remind the people who saw Rocky what happened and there to show people who didn't see Rocky what happened. Not only could they not depend on VHS for this, but they also couldn't depend on cable television to show the original. It was too soon for Rocky to be on rotation on standard cable channels and not everyone subscribed to pay-television, like HBO and ShowTime. Back then, they needed to include an introduction or some other storytelling trope to fill audiences in on the first movie or risk losing a sizable portion of their potential audience.
VCR's VHS wasn't really common until 1984 in most households. Hence some movies had 'flashbacks' cause there was no way to see the movie since a few years back in theaters.
Rocky is the greatest fictional character in the history of film. And I don't care what anyone says, Sylvestor Stallone is one of the finest actors that has ever lived. I've never known anyone to watch the first four Rocky movies and not get absolutely wrapped up in every emotion he portrays. When Adrienne says, "I want you to do one thing...WIN" the crowd in the theater went absolutely nuts! People were jumping out of their seats, yelling, cheering, giving high fives, it was amazing! Between Rocky and Rambo, Stallone has given us two of the most iconic characters ever, that will still be talked about in another 50 years.
VHS has been around a REALLY long time. However VHS rentals really didn't get started until the early 80s. For reference, the first movie my family rented was Ghostbusters.
31:00 I'm watching this video for the second/third maybe fourth or fifth time, because Simone was saying how much she was surprised and how much she liked Stallone and etc.. etc.. But all of your conversation/questions here, are going to be answered if you watch Rocky IV.. WATCH ROCKY III!!! WATCH ROCKY IV!!! We are waiting all this time. (Thanks guys. I love both of you)
I've seen the Rocky movies so many times that I actually see the good in Paulie. He's a drunk and a degenerate, but he always sticks up for Rocky. He yelled at Adrian but only because he was concerned that Rocky's head wasn't in the game and was going to get hurt. Then when Adrian went down he genuinely seemed concerned and tried to catch her. And when he's running his mouth in the hospital, he's still there by her side, he's still bringing her flowers. He's still got some things to settle with Rocky in 3, but by part 4 and 5, he's basically ready to take a bullet for Rocky. Think of him as someone who wants to show affection but doesn't know how.
The fact that ya'll think Gazzo was trying to scam Rocky with condominiums is hilarious, despite the fact he has always supported and helped Rocky. Investing in condos was not and still not a scam. It actually would have helped Rocky make income, except he just wanted to splurge and spend his money.
i think the trope is that there are some fighters that are well-rounded and highly skilled in the art and technique of boxing, and there are some fighters that are brawlers or sluggers that rely mostly on power punches rather than defense or technique (they dont usually have long careers i would assume)
One older movie that I think you guys should absolutely check out and one that is surprisingly unknown today is "Serpico" from 1973. I won't spoil who's in it, but I think you'd love it. Based on true story too!
Great job as always guys! Two things: Rocky III is masterful and definitely worth your time. Mr. T is perfect in a role that’s kind of a precursor to the real life Mike Tyson. Hope you get to it sooner rather than later. 😜 Secondly, while the “bezerker theory” is kind of true for Rocky’s character, Stallone added what in boxing terms is called the “rope-a-dope” to this movie. Muhammed Ali coined the phrase when he beat George Foreman in the “Rumble in the Jungle”: make the bigger, stronger fighter punch himself out and then attack at the end. This is why Rocky gets up at the end and Apollo falls. He had just a little more stamina than the champ.
Yep, I first got a VHS player in 1980 (as an early graduation gift) and not even half my friends had them at that time. Like most technology (especially then) when they first came out they were A) quite expensive and B) notorious for eating tapes, particularly when you tried to fast forward or rewind on high.
It's always so strange watching the boxing in these films. Just taking turns to stand there and get punched repeatedly in the head without any attempts to block or move
Paulie is generally a terrible person, but he does get some redeeming moments as the movies go on. As for why Rocky doesn't cover his face, beyond poor technique, is a bit of a combination of things...there's some of the "Berserker theory" in there to be sure, but it's mostly that A) they don't want to cover the actors' faces, and B) they have to make the fight exciting...IRL boxing matches, especially heavyweight fights, don't have nearly as many punches thrown as you see in movies, it's mostly just circling each other slowly looking for openings, or tying each other up by basically bear-hugging the other guy. It's rare to see a heavyweight fight with 50+ punches thrown in a single round. The only IRL fight I can think of (off the top of my head, at least) that comes close to a Rocky movie was the Hagler vs Hearns fight in 1985, but that wasn't a heavyweight fight, it was for the middleweight championship, and it only lasted 3 rounds not 15.
The "Beserker theory" is pretty much his thing. We get a little glimpse of it in the first fight he's shown in "Rocky" Gotta get smacked around before he gets his head straight. As the film series progresses, it becomes more a part of his character. (III & IV) Side note: God, I hope these two watch "Cinderella Man" someday.
He really only gets anything remotely resembling humanity in RB, and even that's sketchy. But given his actions at the start of V (yeah, I mean the film itself is a bin fire, but sadly it does still exist in the Rocky universe), after all his treatment of Adrian prior, he was never going to be likeable.
There was the Rumble in the Jungle and the Thrilla in Manila. Both fights had a lot of exchanges. But I wanna Time Machine so I can have Smokin Joe in a cage fight with Mike Tyson in his prime.
And you can hit harder if your hands start at shoulder height, than if they start above or below it. Plus, they wanted to base the movie on a fight between Rocky Marciano and Muhammed Ali, and the character's styles reflect that
In rough answer to your question, yeah, as George says, VHS was invented in 1976, but few people had them then, and films took a lot longer to be released. In fact, the majors were wary of the format, as it would mean less revenue in cinema rereleases. We got our first VCR in 1981, and, coincidentally, Rocky II was the first film we rented!
On VHS, when you recorded, you could record on each tape for anywhere from 2 - 6 hours. When the 3rd movie came out, i, because of how the following movie picks up where the last one ended, i spliced all three together into one long movie...
VHS took a few years to take off, with original units over $1K when a nice compact car still cost $5k new. By the 1980’s they took off and the big thing was picking up a video at Block Busters to watch over the weekend. But that was at least 6 months after theater release.
VHS (short for Video Home System) was released in 1976. VHS was produced until 2008 (In Japan). The last company to make VHS equipment was Funai in Japan and they ceased production of VHS equipment in July 2016 due to shortage of components. On the cinema front here in the UK films would often play twice at the cinema there would be an initial release then a few months later some move would have another cinema run.
The Rocky movies were a love story. A man facing opposition and never giving up because he has a wife he loves. When he gets off balance she brings him back.
You two are the best reaction duo for me. No one tops you. I so wish you guys could put out more videos. I was on vacation for two weeks and was thrilled to come back and watch a handful of videos all at once. It was awesome. Keep up the great work!!
Betamax, a videocassette format proprietary to the Sony company, was first marketed in 1975 and took an early lead in the format war, but by 1980 or so was largely eclipsed by VHS. You might find some old movies or TV shows with jokes about Betamax, often simply called "Beta".
@@richardrobbins387 I have an uncle who has always been pretty hip to acquiring new technologies and he had one really early on but i don't recall anyone else with one. If I remember correctly though, either VHS or another company developed an adapter so they could be played on VHS machines. It was kind of like putting a cassette into a walkman...then putting the walkman into the VHS player, lol.
Regarding the gap between movies and not having seen it in a while: It's likely you had the opportunity to see it on television more than once before the second movie came out. Either edited for timeslot and content on broadcast TV or uncut on a premium cable channel.
The ironic thing is Creed was completely right. Rocky was technically lucky in the first movie. He didn't win, after all, and Creed treated the whole thing like a show. Now, he's serious.
Well actually, we had this thing called "television", and movies would show up on that a few year later. The TV premier of a major hit movie would be a big deal prime-time event, and everyone would watch it. Rocky was first shown on TV in February, 1979, a few months before Rocky 2 came out, and the Sunday-night broadcast captured a massive 52-share to dominate the ratings.
The "double countout" was mainly for dramatic effect (and it was awesome. I love it every time I watch it) but in reality though, Rocky would have never been in trouble for that countout, since he actually knocked Apollo down, and then tripped afterward. There was no "knockdown contact" given to Rocky when they both fell, and the count wouldn't have went towards him at all, only Apollo
This. I always laugh too, as a lot of people (myself included when I first watched this) get caught up in the moment of the count to notice, but in terms of the rules, the count really should only apply to Apollo. Then again, this is the same world of boxing where no official has actually called off either of these two fights on the grounds of Rocky's frankly cartoonish levels of awfulness when it comes to blocking. In the real world, he should've been told to stop after a couple of rounds, given the level of blunt force trauma he keeps WALKING into.
And, even if we ignored that fact and accepted Rocky is being counted out too, he didn't establish himself as ready to fight again before that 10 count. He was still holding the rope and had wobbly legs, so it would be a draw.
Hey, before VHS came out there was another tape system called beta which was way bulkier and not very practical for home use, although some did have beta systems at home. And another antiquated system was the laser disc, which was like a cd but it was the size of an album (12" disc)
In their discussion, Simone & George inadvertently referenced "Rocky 3" and "Rocky 4". It is obvious that they must continue in the series...though perhaps a detour around "Rocky 5"?
5 isn't as bad as people like to pretend it is. It's the least exciting of the series, but still a great film and it's important to Rocky's overall story.
This is so true. I have shared that reaction with a number of people who don’t know her or Rocky 2. It was just so pure. This reaction is good too. But that particular one was gold.
VHS became very popular in my town in India around 1984. I was in school then. It was never brought to my house and I never watched it until I came to the US around 2000 but my friends would hire the VHS player and 4 tapes for a day and binge watch movies. The rent was very cheap especially with the idea that many people could watch 4 movies from the comfort of their home - rewind and watch songs and dances again and again! I am so old that i have used gramophone, vacuum radios, transistors, cassette player, 2-in-1, Walkman, CD player, DVD player, MP3 player, FM radio, ......... in one stupid life. hoohhhh ..... Future Shock by Alvin Toffler comes to mind.
Such a weird clinical take to think Adrian’s thought process is “if he goes blind he won’t be able to get a manual labour job”. Surely it’s just ‘I don’t want to see the person I love, lose something that’s so fundamental to himself, and the human experience.’
tbf i think that was simmone scrambling for a way to answers george’s bad question. Sometimes he just questions the most basic things and it’s baffling. Like i love the analytical eye but sometimes it’s such a simple answer that requires no thinking power to understand. It always seems to be when he questions human emotion and characters making mistakes forgetting that people irl make mistakes and are silly Like questioning why adrian would change her mind…like did you miss the last 10-20 minutes of the film??? i think simmone gets it just didn’t explain it best
There were second run movie theaters in most towns where you could watch old movies cheaply. Thats how I saw Casablanca and the Wizard of Oz. I think I saw Gone with the Wind there too, but I could be wrong. It was a long time ago.
He has Lots of moments and importance as a catalyst for a lot of good more than bad throughout series. However The general consensus from all reactors seems to be eh, not enough. Or fuck Paulie. I wish wasn’t in any of these movies. It’s really fascinating how none of them seem to understand the character or the relational dynamics.
@@td811 different times... unfortunately today, complex characters such as Paulie are too often just seen as shining examples of toxic masculinity who need to be eradicated from the cinematic experience so as to not influence or offend. I think it's a major factor in modern entertainment not being as memorable or engaging as in times past; characters are not allowed to have flaws or imperfections as all humans do, they are either the hero or the villain with no room in between. There are exceptions, of course, but it doesn't seem nearly as prevalent as it once was.
@@gregmcdonald8962 This is EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching their reaction as well as several other reactions to the Rocky films. I think a huge reason a lot of reactors hate Paulie is because he's incredibly realistic to the point of being uncomfortable to watch and most people don't want to feel uncomfortable watching movies. Like, people can easily watch larger-than-life villains like Joker or Hannibal Lecter or slasher movie villains like Freddy and Jason, and even root for them to some extent, but when a character is realistically flawed and very unlikable like Paulie, it's way too close to the vest so they're like "go away, I hate you!" LOL And they'll ignore the good dialogue and great acting and dismiss the character as irrelevant. Yeah, this is something noticeably different in modern movies where every character has to be sympathetic to some extent or have some sad backstory to explain why they're the way they are.
0:29 OMG this is so close to what will happen. Your discussion about VHS reminded something. I remember seeing ET in theater and thinking this was the best movie ever, I was around 6 or 7. It never aired on any tv network and was not available to rent until around 1988 or 1989. So that's around 6-7 years before seeing my favorite movie again. Back then, you had to wait a long time for movies.
VHS was first available on September 9, 1976. Looks like mainstream history has been inclined forget though, that for a little while, VHS had a competitor in _Betamax_ which was first available May 10, 1975.
Ok, Simone was a little precognitive in this one. As for the fighting, it is a combination of Berserker & not having a realistic style of filming fighting. The Creed movie’s definitely fix the fights to where they look more real.
'Movies' not 'movie's'. The fight at the end of Rocky 3 is pretty damn good. Rocky's main problem is his persistence in using his face to block punches.
Rocky was never meant to be a technical boxer. He's a street brawler. He should be keeping his hands up to protect his face, and he should be bobbing and weaving to avoid hits, but he doesn't. He just squares up and rolls in...again, and again, and again, and again...and won't stop. So, yeah, for the first few rounds he's just getting hammered and Apollo thinks he's got him. Then it slowly dawns on Apollo that Rocky just...will...not...stay...down. He keeps coming back, and when he opens up and connects, he's devastating. Like his trainer kept saying, "Dangerous." To boil it down, Rocky wins by heart, hard work, and relentless tenacity. Hope you keep working your way through the Rocky films. Another one you might enjoy is, "Push." (2009 - Chris Evans, Dakota Fanning, Djimon Hounsou, Ming-Na Wen). Almost entirely filmed in Hong Kong.
Rocky III and IV is worth a watch definitely! Skip the 5!!! But then Balboa (6th is very good again), and from there all the Creed movies are also worth the watch! I have not seen the latest Creed (2023).
It tickles me to see you young folks watch these movies. I was a sophomore in high school at this time and My football coach played Rockys' theme song before EVERY game and it FIRED us up. We rode that to a State Championship, good times good times... Love the Rocky movies, I am 62 now and have see EVERY Rocky movie. LOVE IT!!!
VHS was relatively expensive when it first came out. There was also Laserdisc and Betamax tapes. Only one kid in my neighborhood had a VCR in 1981; my family had bought a Laserdisc player around this time, and I remember some of the discs we had were Star Wars, Grease, Fiddler on the Roof, Mary Poppins, and also Rocky and Rocky II.
For the record, it was roughly 1984-ish when video stores popped up on every corner. I was lucky enough to go to work for one that became a small chain and was an INCREDIBLE business to be in for a movie lover. I was in that biz for 14 years till the small chains started going under and get bought out by the big ones. Finally, nothing was left but Blockbuster. And it died too. I still miss those days. Cable, however, exploded into homes in 1980-ish. But you only had one movie channel, HBO. And you'd have to stay up till 4 AM to watch a favorite movie sometimes.
Love the scene between Apollo and his trainer Duke warning him that Rocky is dangerous. Great lines in that scene alone "Man I won but I didn't beat him" "I saw you beat that man like I never saw any man get beat before, and the man kept coming after you" "We don't need that kind of man in our life". Excellent writing.
A lot of us are lucky enough to have a Duke in our lives, who can ask you "honest?" before telling you something that will hurt, but will better you as a person.
"Man I won but I didn't beat him"
I think that's the best line in the movie. I mean, Adrian telling Rocky to "Win!" is great too but the other one is really what drives Apollo.
Watch the next 2 movies!
Duke is my favorite smaller character in the movies. He’s always the voice of reason. And he shows up in most of the franchise, even if briefly. He was also the guy that saw Rocky “means business” in the first one.
Finally after 300 years, they continued watching ROCKY
my thoughts exactly. 🙂
I think this was recorded a while ago, because of the mentioning of merch, which they had for a while.
For real!
I love their reactions but hate how they handle sequels. I mean they watched IT: Part One ten months ago and still hasn't reacted to the second part. Seriously who watches half of a movie and wait over 10 months to watch the rest? It makes no sense.
@@Radwar99 agree agree agree.
George commenting on Apollo's mail saying "I see the comments section hasn't changed in like 50 years almost made me choke". That was so funny.
Scammers!! Beware! Let's report them!
As I get older I realize that rockys “ strategy” of not insulting or arguing with Apollo Pre match was simply a reflection of his deep and genuine admiration for a superior athlete
"The perfect fighter." - Rocky in Creed 1
Apollo also admitting to Rocky in the hospital that he gave his best when they were alone mustve made Rocky realize that Apollo is only putting up a show and is a good guy too.
I love how, the whole time Rocky was dealing with Adrian being in a coma, Mickey was right by his side. Not pushing him to train or anything. Just being there to support him. Love Mick.
Holy shit they have to watch all the rest...or at least Rocky 3. Maybe they didn't enjoy the first two as much as it seemed like they did....
VHS was just starting to gain traction in the home market when this was released. Within a few years video rental stores would be everywhere and the technology would be accessible to most consumers. Prior to VHS, successful films were often re-released in theaters several times after their original run. Also, second-run theaters were much more prevalent.
Yeah I remember having a second run theater near me growing up. $1.25
@@mathewdebol923 First runs were under $1.25 when this movie came out. (I was paying $3.50 in the mid to late 90's)
ahh the 80's - VHS vs Betamax vs Laserdisc. I remember having a birthday party and my parents going to the video store and renting a laserdisc player along with a movie (Krull or The Dark Crystal or something like that).
VCRs weren't common until the late 80s. A lot of video stores also rented whole VCRs. Partly because they were very expencive and partly because the culture was set up for going out to a movie and people had no habit of watching stuff at home. People had real physical hobbies and TV shows certainly weren't good enough to justify recording or binge watching. There were only 3-4 channels anyway so the schedule wasn't a big problem.
VHS tapes being released for direct sale to consumers didn't really get going until about 1990. I remember Batman being the first tape that got mass advertising and it was sold at £10.99. This was about a year after it was at the cinema, 6 months after it came out to rent. Before that if you wanted to buy a newish movie on VHS it cost £60 as they were priced for sale to rental stores who could easily recoup the cost by renting it out many times.
Eye of the Tiger is actually used in Rocky 3. Can't wait for that one in the future! and I don't think I'll eat hot dogs for a while thanks Simone 🤣
IV also right?
@@ukiyoideas2215 Hearts on Fire is the song in Rocky 4
Do you have an predictions for the sequel?
Sequel? Pain.... and Eye of the Tiger.
(spoiler alert)
spoiler much mate geez
Rocky is such a strong franchise. Of the 9 films (including the Creed films) I honestly only rate V as particularly weak - and even that is worth watching. Rocky is just such a great character.
Rocky V is better than most people give it credit for. I respect the hell out of it for showing what boxing does the Rocky's state of being after all the fights. It's antagonist makes sense I'm considering of the world of professional fighting and how the business of it isn't squeaky clean. His family life makes sense for how it is and it carries been over a bit in the next movie so if people skip it, it seems like it comes out of nowhere.
Trying not to get to spoilery but it's better than most people give credit.
The movies aren't about boxing. 5 is a bit more about boxing, but it's mostly about rock and his son.
@@jessecortez9449most reaction channels I've seen actually enjoy V.
I always felt like the ending of that movie wasn’t anything “triumphant” like they seem to suggest it is. But no spoilers
Five is still fun though. Bad, yes, but fun...
Eye of the Tiger was written for Rocky 3. After watching the first 2 movies, Eye of the Tiger was penned following Rockys' carrer. Comming up, going the distance (first movie) and then sliding back into the streets only to go to the top in the end (second movie)
You're the Best from Karate Kid was considered for the Rocky 3 montage.
Think they wanted Another One Bites The Dust by Queen but couldnt afford the rights
rocky 4 Burning heart Survivor....was my favorite.....
Simone concern about the chicken getting hurt is adorable.LOL😂 "Please don't punch the chicken"
Don't worry...it's not like it got choked. 😆😂
@@brianvalencia7717 I knew someone was going to...
That would have been so out of charachter for Rocky.
Imagine him finally catching the chicken and start punching it in anger...
Hey guys, just wanted to drop a little triva in for you. The baby in the movie is actually Sylvester Stallone's oldest son Sergeoah. Not many people know about him. He is still alive but he is severely autistic and very rarely seen in public. I think its only like 1 or 2 pictures of him online. Sylvester Stallone's other son Sage has passed away but he shows up later in Rocky 5.
Actually Sage is the oldest son
@@averysteffen1732 yes, your right. I'm got them mixed up. Thank you. 😊
You name your kid Sergeoah he has to be autistic.
During the earlier days of VHS, it was rare for a movie to be released right after the theater run. For example, I remember watching E.T. in 1982, and it wasn't out on VHS until 1988.
13:15 You just caught what many people miss.
Paulie's character shows us what Rocky could have been ....they come from the same time and the same streets and pervasive lack of opportunity and low education level etc etc etc.
I think it highlights that there is something special inside of Rocky.... a virtue or value inside of him that makes the difference. And I think Adrian's character has it as well. What both of them needed to blossom was each other....the support they give each other and having faith in each other.
Their love story spans beyond just being in love.... it is instrumental in both of them transcending where they were without each other.
This story is very realistic relative to other films of the time but its also far more deep and multilayered than people might think .....possibly distracted from its depth due to the NYC street talking patterns etc
No, no, no, young lady. We went to the movies ALL THE TIME back then and saw movies we loved several times during their initial run and re-releases. It was beautiful. Movies were special and lived in memory, not databases. Movie culture was an activity, not just a click or a swipe. 👴🏼
So true!
Movie culture was also an adventure. We practically had to dedicate our time to staying in line to get a ticket. Or even have to drive to different theaters, if a certain movie was sold out.
you could watch this review 24/7 forever if you wanted to,
& now you can watch any movie or TV show on a device in your pocket anytime you want to,
& somehow that's worse than waiting
Rocky II was for a long time my favorite film EVER. I watched this movie over 264 times, 6 of those times in a movie theater. It changed my life the first time I saw it. It made me believe that you can do anything if you really want it and believe in yourself. Great little film !
Simone: Please don't punch a chicken 😂😂😂
The turtles, (Cuff & Link) were Slys actual pets and are still alive, it's easy to find a picture of him with them from as recently as 2019.
No they weren't. They were bought from a pet store for the movie and returned after the movie wrapped. The store owner still had them when the Creed 2 started shooting which is where the 2019 photo comes from
"Yo Adrian, I DID IT~~~~~"
A classic moment in cinema history.
"Butkus" is named after a famous American football player whose full name (Dick Butkus) is even more giggle-inducing. He also did some acting in both films (mostly cameos as himself) and television.
are you sure it's not Bupkis? It is an old term
"Mongo only pawn in game of life."-Mongo(Dick Butkus)"Blazing Saddles."
@@davidstone9624 Stallone himself has referred to the dog as "Butkus". I'll admit that I'm assuming it was named after the football player, but I can't think of any other reason to name a dog that.
@@les4767 *Alex Karras. 🧐
FWIW, I thought that it was Butkus in the tv show Webster for years (also Karras). 😄
@@Harv72b Damn...I'm always confusing those two guys....Butkus was always doing commercials with Bubba Smith, right?
Punching power is measured in PSI. While it differs in weight class, a heavyweight can hit anywhere from 1200-1700 PSI per punch.
A normal person usually throws a punch at around 150 PSI (give or take), so there’s a huge difference.
1700 PSI is about the same force as a pretty solid pressure washer. So it would be like taking a pressure washer blast to the face multiple times.
Which PSI will come into play later in this series but don’t want to spoil anything for you guys.
Some figures in SI Units: Heavyweights hit with a speed of about 10 m/s, Featherweights hit with up to 16 m/s. Heavyweights reach a punching powers up to 5500 Newton.
I pity the fool
when i wrestled in school my left hand was 340 & i'm right handed 😂
my right hand was only 180
29:00 There is a story about when George Foreman fought Ali. George was completely giving it to him. Getting all the hits. After a while Ali asks him "is that all you got?" in which George replied "yep" and then Ali went to town on him until he won the fight.
24:48 I've seen this movie dozens of times and never before noticed that that kid face-plants and another kid falls over him
Don't skip any of the movies, watch it up to the Creed Franchise
@@MS-ro9dm Sly was nominated for best supporting actor for Creed I, and it does a good job showing where Rocky would be that many years after. But for sure, they're increasingly less Rocky movies.
100 percent disagree.
@@MS-ro9dm you're wrong, it absolutely is a continuation. the entire plot of Creed II is built off of Rocky IV. we even get a resolution to Rocky as a character, expanding on what we happened in Rocky V and Rocky Balboa. and Adonis as a character couldn't exist without Apollo. they're Adonis's movies, not Rocky's, but they're still Rocky movies at their core, they're continuing the legacy of the same franchise.
@@MS-ro9dm they do have a different feel because it's about a different character, but i think that analogy is taking it too far. the Creed movies follow the same basic format and cover similar story beats, it's not that drastic of a change from Rocky.
"Hey look, hotdogs! " 🤣
Thak you for that! I IRL laghed till hurt.
I love how this movie got partly made because people were disappointed that Rocky lost in the first one, so in a sense, the hate mail Apollo gets is representative of the viewers.
I can't blame them Rocky II is great. The story is beautiful, and we get to see Rocky and Apollo fight as equals. In the first movie, Apollo didn't take the fight seriously, but in this one, he trains as hard as Rocky, and it's great to see these two exceptional athletes give their all in a fight.
Also, yeah, Rocky really likes taking hits; I know that's like his life philosophy that it doesn't matter how hard you get hit, but that you get up again, but still, my man, learn how to block lol.
Rocky had a unique training experience. Rocky loves to block punches. He uses his forehead!
To be fair, watch Ward vs Gatti 1 and tell me how much defense there is there. Some guys just take hits.
I mean even Paulie's cool move of holding the rope's so Adrian can go into the ring to be with Rocky showed his good side.
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Back in the 70s, a lot of theatre movies eventually ended up on network TV in a chopped down format, say, as a "Friday Night Movie of the Week." So, you world have a chance to see a movie again, kinda.
So happy about this! I've been hoping you both would react to Rocky II for awhile. The amount of empathy and understanding that the two of you had for the characters and story in the first made me smile so I was eager to see this movie have its moment.
The condominium joke is epic 😅
We had VHS, but tapes were around $50-80 dollars. They didn’t start coming down to $20-30 until mid 80s. But many of us also had cable so we could watch movies multiple times during the month they were on.
George says, "Who's tougher, who can endure a bit more." That's Rocky's entire story.
Exactly. Rocky IV showcases his indomitable will to endure more than the the other guy in epic 80’s fashion (and helps answer Simone’s question about how much force is in a punch). Please continue the Rocky reactions - you are a great duo in the reaction space.
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"It's not about how hard you can hit. It's about how hard you can GET hit..and keep moving forward. How much you can TAKE..and keep moving forward. THAT'S HOW WINNING IS DONE!"-Rocky-"Rocky Balboa"
"I won, but I didn't beat him!" That's what a true champion would say. Carl Weathers is awesome in this series.
Also, someone needs to share this with Sylvester Stallone. These are the reactions filmmakers aim for!
Dick Butkus was a well known middle linebacker for the Chicago Bears back in the day. He was so fierce, he was feared by opposing teams. The dog was named after this football player.
Remember *(Back to the future)* was the same way. A sequel wasn't planned. But they started part 2 with the ending scene of part 1. & at the end It told you part 3 would be in theaters in the summer of 1990
There’s some interesting interviews with Sly about the boxing scenes and how they’re not like real boxing matches, and he compares it with stage acting, where everything is exaggerated (because the audience at the back has to see it), so when they did the boxing scenes they intentionally didn’t try to be too realistic.
Did they change it for this? It seemed better in the first movie.
21:07 called it simone.
The introduction was there to remind the people who saw Rocky what happened and there to show people who didn't see Rocky what happened. Not only could they not depend on VHS for this, but they also couldn't depend on cable television to show the original. It was too soon for Rocky to be on rotation on standard cable channels and not everyone subscribed to pay-television, like HBO and ShowTime. Back then, they needed to include an introduction or some other storytelling trope to fill audiences in on the first movie or risk losing a sizable portion of their potential audience.
18:20 "please don't punch a chicken!" -simone
OMG 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
VCR's VHS wasn't really common until 1984 in most households. Hence some movies had 'flashbacks' cause there was no way to see the movie since a few years back in theaters.
Rocky is the greatest fictional character in the history of film. And I don't care what anyone says, Sylvestor Stallone is one of the finest actors that has ever lived. I've never known anyone to watch the first four Rocky movies and not get absolutely wrapped up in every emotion he portrays.
When Adrienne says, "I want you to do one thing...WIN" the crowd in the theater went absolutely nuts! People were jumping out of their seats, yelling, cheering, giving high fives, it was amazing!
Between Rocky and Rambo, Stallone has given us two of the most iconic characters ever, that will still be talked about in another 50 years.
VHS has been around a REALLY long time. However VHS rentals really didn't get started until the early 80s. For reference, the first movie my family rented was Ghostbusters.
31:00 I'm watching this video for the second/third maybe fourth or fifth time, because Simone was saying how much she was surprised and how much she liked Stallone and etc.. etc..
But all of your conversation/questions here, are going to be answered if you watch Rocky IV..
WATCH ROCKY III!!!
WATCH ROCKY IV!!!
We are waiting all this time.
(Thanks guys. I love both of you)
I've seen the Rocky movies so many times that I actually see the good in Paulie. He's a drunk and a degenerate, but he always sticks up for Rocky. He yelled at Adrian but only because he was concerned that Rocky's head wasn't in the game and was going to get hurt. Then when Adrian went down he genuinely seemed concerned and tried to catch her. And when he's running his mouth in the hospital, he's still there by her side, he's still bringing her flowers. He's still got some things to settle with Rocky in 3, but by part 4 and 5, he's basically ready to take a bullet for Rocky. Think of him as someone who wants to show affection but doesn't know how.
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The fact that ya'll think Gazzo was trying to scam Rocky with condominiums is hilarious, despite the fact he has always supported and helped Rocky. Investing in condos was not and still not a scam. It actually would have helped Rocky make income, except he just wanted to splurge and spend his money.
i think the trope is that there are some fighters that are well-rounded and highly skilled in the art and technique of boxing, and there are some fighters that are brawlers or sluggers that rely mostly on power punches rather than defense or technique (they dont usually have long careers i would assume)
The eye of the tiger song is in the third Rocky film released in the same year as the song was made and first blood
Adrienne realized they had hospital bills to pay and that's why she wanted Rocky to fight again.
Best answer I've heard on her sudden decision to let him fight again.
and the newborn son needs a better life than what they had, which hits home with her in a real way...
Private school and a college education.
That, and she knew he would be happy. 😀 Isn't it nice when things work out for everyone?
That, and the hairdresser's bill for the baby.
Eye of the Tiger is a training montage song from Rocky III. I guess you'll need to watch that one! Mr. T. is great in it!
One older movie that I think you guys should absolutely check out and one that is surprisingly unknown today is "Serpico" from 1973. I won't spoil who's in it, but I think you'd love it. Based on true story too!
Simone's concern that they were going to punch the chicken makes this for me. Hahaha
Great job as always guys! Two things: Rocky III is masterful and definitely worth your time. Mr. T is perfect in a role that’s kind of a precursor to the real life Mike Tyson. Hope you get to it sooner rather than later. 😜 Secondly, while the “bezerker theory” is kind of true for Rocky’s character, Stallone added what in boxing terms is called the “rope-a-dope” to this movie. Muhammed Ali coined the phrase when he beat George Foreman in the “Rumble in the Jungle”: make the bigger, stronger fighter punch himself out and then attack at the end. This is why Rocky gets up at the end and Apollo falls. He had just a little more stamina than the champ.
Yep, I first got a VHS player in 1980 (as an early graduation gift) and not even half my friends had them at that time. Like most technology (especially then) when they first came out they were A) quite expensive and B) notorious for eating tapes, particularly when you tried to fast forward or rewind on high.
It's always so strange watching the boxing in these films. Just taking turns to stand there and get punched repeatedly in the head without any attempts to block or move
Usually, you had to wait between 6 months to a year for a movie to reach VHS .
There's a Rocky movie for every stage of your life. The greatness of the Rocky series.
Well said.
Haha. When Apollo’s reading his fan mail and George says. I see the comment section hasn’t changed:)
Paulie is generally a terrible person, but he does get some redeeming moments as the movies go on.
As for why Rocky doesn't cover his face, beyond poor technique, is a bit of a combination of things...there's some of the "Berserker theory" in there to be sure, but it's mostly that A) they don't want to cover the actors' faces, and B) they have to make the fight exciting...IRL boxing matches, especially heavyweight fights, don't have nearly as many punches thrown as you see in movies, it's mostly just circling each other slowly looking for openings, or tying each other up by basically bear-hugging the other guy. It's rare to see a heavyweight fight with 50+ punches thrown in a single round. The only IRL fight I can think of (off the top of my head, at least) that comes close to a Rocky movie was the Hagler vs Hearns fight in 1985, but that wasn't a heavyweight fight, it was for the middleweight championship, and it only lasted 3 rounds not 15.
The "Beserker theory" is pretty much his thing. We get a little glimpse of it in the first fight he's shown in "Rocky"
Gotta get smacked around before he gets his head straight. As the film series progresses, it becomes more a part of his character. (III & IV)
Side note: God, I hope these two watch
"Cinderella Man" someday.
It's just a shame Paulie's best moment was cut out of RB.
He really only gets anything remotely resembling humanity in RB, and even that's sketchy. But given his actions at the start of V (yeah, I mean the film itself is a bin fire, but sadly it does still exist in the Rocky universe), after all his treatment of Adrian prior, he was never going to be likeable.
There was the Rumble in the Jungle and the Thrilla in Manila. Both fights had a lot of exchanges.
But I wanna Time Machine so I can have Smokin Joe in a cage fight with Mike Tyson in his prime.
And you can hit harder if your hands start at shoulder height, than if they start above or below it. Plus, they wanted to base the movie on a fight between Rocky Marciano and Muhammed Ali, and the character's styles reflect that
In rough answer to your question, yeah, as George says, VHS was invented in 1976, but few people had them then, and films took a lot longer to be released. In fact, the majors were wary of the format, as it would mean less revenue in cinema rereleases. We got our first VCR in 1981, and, coincidentally, Rocky II was the first film we rented!
This one is such a good one. It definitely helps that Rocky wins this time, so the sequels can do stuff that's different.
On VHS, when you recorded, you could record on each tape for anywhere from 2 - 6 hours. When the 3rd movie came out, i, because of how the following movie picks up where the last one ended, i spliced all three together into one long movie...
i can't wait for them to watch 3 and 4, they just get better and better imo
VHS took a few years to take off, with original units over $1K when a nice compact car still cost $5k new. By the 1980’s they took off and the big thing was picking up a video at Block Busters to watch over the weekend. But that was at least 6 months after theater release.
VHS (short for Video Home System) was released in 1976. VHS was produced until 2008 (In Japan). The last company to make VHS equipment was Funai in Japan and they ceased production of VHS equipment in July 2016 due to shortage of components. On the cinema front here in the UK films would often play twice at the cinema there would be an initial release then a few months later some move would have another cinema run.
Eye of the tiger is from the training montage of Rocky 3.
The Rocky movies were a love story. A man facing opposition and never giving up because he has a wife he loves. When he gets off balance she brings him back.
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You two are the best reaction duo for me. No one tops you. I so wish you guys could put out more videos. I was on vacation for two weeks and was thrilled to come back and watch a handful of videos all at once. It was awesome. Keep up the great work!!
Betamax, a videocassette format proprietary to the Sony company, was first marketed in 1975 and took an early lead in the format war, but by 1980 or so was largely eclipsed by VHS. You might find some old movies or TV shows with jokes about Betamax, often simply called "Beta".
Dick Butkus was a famous football player-turned-actor during the 70s.
Still remember that section of the video store. Nobody I knew of had a BetaMax player growing up. And one day, they were just gone.
@@richardrobbins387 I have an uncle who has always been pretty hip to acquiring new technologies and he had one really early on but i don't recall anyone else with one. If I remember correctly though, either VHS or another company developed an adapter so they could be played on VHS machines. It was kind of like putting a cassette into a walkman...then putting the walkman into the VHS player, lol.
Regarding the gap between movies and not having seen it in a while: It's likely you had the opportunity to see it on television more than once before the second movie came out. Either edited for timeslot and content on broadcast TV or uncut on a premium cable channel.
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fun fact about the turtles: Sylvester Stallone still has them.
Oops, I should have read down to your comment before posting the same info👍😖😏
Blocking punches is forbidden in Rocky movies until Rocky III where it is introduced as a unheard of and novel strategy.
The ironic thing is Creed was completely right. Rocky was technically lucky in the first movie. He didn't win, after all, and Creed treated the whole thing like a show. Now, he's serious.
Well actually, we had this thing called "television", and movies would show up on that a few year later. The TV premier of a major hit movie would be a big deal prime-time event, and everyone would watch it. Rocky was first shown on TV in February, 1979, a few months before Rocky 2 came out, and the Sunday-night broadcast captured a massive 52-share to dominate the ratings.
I thought they said Rocky earned $150,000 from the first fight.
They did.
37,000 was what he cleared, meaning after taxes and paying the guys who were in his corner, he was left with 37,000
24:56 the title of the 3rd Rocky movie is "eye of the tiger". I wonder if that means anything. 😅
The "double countout" was mainly for dramatic effect (and it was awesome. I love it every time I watch it) but in reality though, Rocky would have never been in trouble for that countout, since he actually knocked Apollo down, and then tripped afterward. There was no "knockdown contact" given to Rocky when they both fell, and the count wouldn't have went towards him at all, only Apollo
This. I always laugh too, as a lot of people (myself included when I first watched this) get caught up in the moment of the count to notice, but in terms of the rules, the count really should only apply to Apollo.
Then again, this is the same world of boxing where no official has actually called off either of these two fights on the grounds of Rocky's frankly cartoonish levels of awfulness when it comes to blocking. In the real world, he should've been told to stop after a couple of rounds, given the level of blunt force trauma he keeps WALKING into.
And, even if we ignored that fact and accepted Rocky is being counted out too, he didn't establish himself as ready to fight again before that 10 count. He was still holding the rope and had wobbly legs, so it would be a draw.
Hey, before VHS came out there was another tape system called beta which was way bulkier and not very practical for home use, although some did have beta systems at home. And another antiquated system was the laser disc, which was like a cd but it was the size of an album (12" disc)
Ordinarily I would never post spoilers, but I need George to know Paulie eventually marries a robot.
Is it too far to mention that the robot is also trans and not former.
@@ManaBurnX This reply killed me.
Rocky Balboa is the greatest movie character of all time.
In their discussion, Simone & George inadvertently referenced "Rocky 3" and "Rocky 4".
It is obvious that they must continue in the series...though perhaps a detour around "Rocky 5"?
5 isn't that bad, not the best in the series, but still not a bad movie.
5 isn't as bad as people like to pretend it is. It's the least exciting of the series, but still a great film and it's important to Rocky's overall story.
5 is flawed plot wise and with the side kid story, but IMO I like it better than 4, which I find cartoony and nationalistic.
I mostly just watch these for Simone's "and welcome to" intros now
One of the best reactions to this movie was popcorn in bed. Really will done.
This is so true. I have shared that reaction with a number of people who don’t know her or Rocky 2. It was just so pure. This reaction is good too. But that particular one was gold.
A big part of the appeal of reaction videos is being able in a way to vicariously see a movie again for the first time.
VHS became very popular in my town in India around 1984. I was in school then. It was never brought to my house and I never watched it until I came to the US around 2000 but my friends would hire the VHS player and 4 tapes for a day and binge watch movies. The rent was very cheap especially with the idea that many people could watch 4 movies from the comfort of their home - rewind and watch songs and dances again and again! I am so old that i have used gramophone, vacuum radios, transistors, cassette player, 2-in-1, Walkman, CD player, DVD player, MP3 player, FM radio, ......... in one stupid life. hoohhhh ..... Future Shock by Alvin Toffler comes to mind.
Such a weird clinical take to think Adrian’s thought process is “if he goes blind he won’t be able to get a manual labour job”.
Surely it’s just ‘I don’t want to see the person I love, lose something that’s so fundamental to himself, and the human experience.’
tbf i think that was simmone scrambling for a way to answers george’s bad question. Sometimes he just questions the most basic things and it’s baffling. Like i love the analytical eye but sometimes it’s such a simple answer that requires no thinking power to understand. It always seems to be when he questions human emotion and characters making mistakes forgetting that people irl make mistakes and are silly
Like questioning why adrian would change her mind…like did you miss the last 10-20 minutes of the film??? i think simmone gets it just didn’t explain it best
There were second run movie theaters in most towns where you could watch old movies cheaply. Thats how I saw Casablanca and the Wizard of Oz. I think I saw Gone with the Wind there too, but I could be wrong. It was a long time ago.
Paulie has a redeeming type moment in Rocky 4
He has Lots of moments and importance as a catalyst for a lot of good more than bad throughout series. However The general consensus from all reactors seems to be eh, not enough. Or fuck Paulie. I wish wasn’t in any of these movies. It’s really fascinating how none of them seem to understand the character or the relational dynamics.
@@td811 different times... unfortunately today, complex characters such as Paulie are too often just seen as shining examples of toxic masculinity who need to be eradicated from the cinematic experience so as to not influence or offend. I think it's a major factor in modern entertainment not being as memorable or engaging as in times past; characters are not allowed to have flaws or imperfections as all humans do, they are either the hero or the villain with no room in between. There are exceptions, of course, but it doesn't seem nearly as prevalent as it once was.
@@gregmcdonald8962 This is EXACTLY what I was thinking while watching their reaction as well as several other reactions to the Rocky films. I think a huge reason a lot of reactors hate Paulie is because he's incredibly realistic to the point of being uncomfortable to watch and most people don't want to feel uncomfortable watching movies. Like, people can easily watch larger-than-life villains like Joker or Hannibal Lecter or slasher movie villains like Freddy and Jason, and even root for them to some extent, but when a character is realistically flawed and very unlikable like Paulie, it's way too close to the vest so they're like "go away, I hate you!" LOL And they'll ignore the good dialogue and great acting and dismiss the character as irrelevant. Yeah, this is something noticeably different in modern movies where every character has to be sympathetic to some extent or have some sad backstory to explain why they're the way they are.
@@drlee2 Excellent points, you expounded on my thoughts perfectly.
I'm 40 yrs old and I still cried at the end
Man I hope you do one rocky movie per week so we can get Creed soon!
0:29 OMG this is so close to what will happen.
Your discussion about VHS reminded something. I remember seeing ET in theater and thinking this was the best movie ever, I was around 6 or 7. It never aired on any tv network and was not available to rent until around 1988 or 1989. So that's around 6-7 years before seeing my favorite movie again. Back then, you had to wait a long time for movies.
Please watch the STAR TREK movies.
VHS was first available on September 9, 1976. Looks like mainstream history has been inclined forget though, that for a little while, VHS had a competitor in _Betamax_ which was first available May 10, 1975.
Ok, Simone was a little precognitive in this one.
As for the fighting, it is a combination of Berserker & not having a realistic style of filming fighting. The Creed movie’s definitely fix the fights to where they look more real.
'Movies' not 'movie's'. The fight at the end of Rocky 3 is pretty damn good. Rocky's main problem is his persistence in using his face to block punches.
Rocky was never meant to be a technical boxer. He's a street brawler. He should be keeping his hands up to protect his face, and he should be bobbing and weaving to avoid hits, but he doesn't. He just squares up and rolls in...again, and again, and again, and again...and won't stop. So, yeah, for the first few rounds he's just getting hammered and Apollo thinks he's got him. Then it slowly dawns on Apollo that Rocky just...will...not...stay...down. He keeps coming back, and when he opens up and connects, he's devastating. Like his trainer kept saying, "Dangerous." To boil it down, Rocky wins by heart, hard work, and relentless tenacity.
Hope you keep working your way through the Rocky films. Another one you might enjoy is, "Push." (2009 - Chris Evans, Dakota Fanning, Djimon Hounsou, Ming-Na Wen). Almost entirely filmed in Hong Kong.
Rocky III and IV is worth a watch definitely! Skip the 5!!! But then Balboa (6th is very good again), and from there all the Creed movies are also worth the watch! I have not seen the latest Creed (2023).
I never cared for part IV, but I've always felt V was underrated
It tickles me to see you young folks watch these movies. I was a sophomore in high school at this time and My football coach played Rockys' theme song before EVERY game and it FIRED us up. We rode that to a State Championship, good times good times... Love the Rocky movies, I am 62 now and have see EVERY Rocky movie. LOVE IT!!!
Eye of the Tiger was the training and theme song of Rock III . You should watch that one also.
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VHS was relatively expensive when it first came out. There was also Laserdisc and Betamax tapes. Only one kid in my neighborhood had a VCR in 1981; my family had bought a Laserdisc player around this time, and I remember some of the discs we had were Star Wars, Grease, Fiddler on the Roof, Mary Poppins, and also Rocky and Rocky II.
3 is eye of the tiger
4 is an explanation of psi punching
5 a reminder of where you come from
Not to give spoilers
For the record, it was roughly 1984-ish when video stores popped up on every corner. I was lucky enough to go to work for one that became a small chain and was an INCREDIBLE business to be in for a movie lover. I was in that biz for 14 years till the small chains started going under and get bought out by the big ones. Finally, nothing was left but Blockbuster. And it died too. I still miss those days.
Cable, however, exploded into homes in 1980-ish. But you only had one movie channel, HBO. And you'd have to stay up till 4 AM to watch a favorite movie sometimes.
I am so happy you got to this. Hoping you do the entire Rocky series!
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it.