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I ma used to drive vehicles that don't even have a rear window at all. So even if I think it would be better with one, it won't stop me from buying one.
No, it's not enough to put me off buying one, but it's annoying just the same. I can't believe that someone hasn't developed a secondary market stick on one. Maybe battery and recharged through the glass, or a specialist tool to drill a hole. I live in Costa Rica and it rains A LOT! It's going to be interesting to see how things work out! Thanks for posting.
There is no way that winter salt splashed by passing cars and trucks in Canada will be cleaned by wind. You need to use windshield washer and a wiper. Using rear view cameras also get the salt on them. So the rear view cameras help but it too is not better than a wiper.
I have had an I5 from last September, here in the UK the weather in our winters demand a rear wiper I am now fitting a rear camera as part of a dash cam to get round the problem. My other beef is having to switch of the lane assist each time, I want it off permanently! But other than that I believe this to be one of the best cars I have owned and I have had the lot!
why not just hit the p button and use the installed rear parking camera while you drive? that's what I do. it's good. Completely agree about the lane and braking assist which are horribly intrusive
I totally agree with your view also the charging port on the off side for the right hand drive version of this car is another terrible error in design for a £50,000 car, I loved the design but these two faults put me off considering it as an option for the future.
@@jghall00 I have a very similar car and I never need the rear wiper. Same for my wife’s Prius. The original blade is still on there after 88,000 miles. It never gets used. Rear wipers are ineffective moving snow anyway. The rear defogger is much more important.
I live in Canada and I am considering buying an Ioniq 5. But, yes, the absence of a rear wiper has an impact on my decision. Not being able to see out of my rear window for a good part of the winter, and having to get out of my car to clear the rear window everytime I need to back into a charging station is a sizeable irritant to me.
My wife and my son have both bought the 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 (RWD, Preferred). They absolutely loved their cars. The one and only critism they have is the lack of rear wiper. I have order myself the Ioniq 5 Preferred AWD Long Range / Ultimate package in last December. I should receive the vehicle in May 2023. I really hope that it will have a rear wiper. It is a safety issue. We live in the province of Québec, Canada. Our cold and snowy winter are severe. A rear wiper is a must. Also, we have notice that due to the dirt and snow, some sensors were getting blocked and causing the HDA and cruise control to shut down. So on long trip in bad winter conditions, we had to stop to clean front and rear sensors and the windshield. This is annoying, but totally normal under the circumstances. But the lack of a rear wiper is flagrant at all time, all year round (rainy and snowy conditions). It is a safety issue. I hope Hyundai will listen to their customers, to the car reviews about their Ioniq 5 and add a rear wiper to the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5.
I don't miss the wiper, but I live in Florida and don't deal with dirty snow. My biggest gripe is the sound of the unused seatbelts rattling. The front passenger seat belt bounces against the seat when not being used, and the back seat belts bounce against the side of the car nearly every time a passenger leaves the car. A little piece of foam between the seatbelt and seat fixes the front, but only repositioning helps in the rear. This car is so good, it's hard to find any fault.
I agree with the little rattles & so forth, I have a tapping noise in mine which I cannot locate / pinpoint & Hyundai UK are very unreasonable about having a dealer rectify it even under the 1st year of warranty. Their warranty is a challenge use compared to other manufacturers in my opinion.
Living in the kingdom of RoadSalts, (Montreal, Canada), I will tell you that wipers are ESSENTIAL!!! Especially while crossing lanes in heavy traffic. In those conditions you can’t go fast enough to spoil away salty fluids by airflow. When the liquid sets on the glass it spreads and dries quickly to form a thick white veil that you can’t see through, making it very difficult to maneuver safely. This alone could tick off Canada safety officials to blacklist the IONIQ 5 and stop sales here…😵💫😟
To answer the last question, I think I wouldn’t buy the Ionic 5 because of that issue. I live in Quebec and winter conditions are extremely difficult. I have seen too many Ionic 5 with rear windows filled with calcium residue that left no clear rear view for the driver. I once saw a guy stopped on a street corner to wash is rear window with a squeegee. They definitively need to fix that issue for winter markets like our. Thanks
Pat, j'en ai une depuis fin janvier. Oui, c'est plate mais on finit par voir mieux qu'on pense parce qu'elle finit par se nettoyer une fois que ça se met à sécher. Et oui, j'ai un petit squeegee dans la valise pour faire la job à chaque fois que je prends une pause. Ma fille a une EV6 et elle n'a pas vraiment ce problème mais sa voiture est pas mal moins confortable.
Personally, living in the UK I haven't had any problems. I will have to see what it is like with grit on the road in winter though. One thing I recommend is using Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions ceramic spray on the rear windscreen, as suggested by The Ioniq Guy on RUclips. That helps, though without the visibility was fine with me. It is also great at reducing the need to wash the car in general as rain can basically wash away the dirt now.
I mean this is so basic i don't even know why they even thought of leaving it off. If you have ever been in slow moving or standing traffic and it snows then it builds up quickly and without a wiper it needs the heater element to be switched on which I'm sure uses more power than a wiper motor and they definately get snow in S.Korea. Even in the UK were we dont get snow that much we do get very dirty salty roads in the winter and that stuff get everywhere and once on the glass if you dont have a washer/wiper you have to get out and clean it off your self, same applies to bird crap which dries on like concrete. This is just a case of well Tesla doesn't have one so we cant have one either. Someone at the testing stage wasn't doing there job or being ignored for the sake of a clean but flawed design.
I live in northern Vermont and we have winter and dirt back roads here. The lack of the rear wiper is a safety hazard and I would advise folks to look at other EV cars until they fix this problem. On a wet/snowy day there is NO visibility out the back window. I am forced to use my 2 side mirrors which don't show the whole picture. Please fix this Hyundai!
Having just bought an Ioniq 5 in Ireland where it rains from time to time 😊I can say that I would not consider another unless there was a rear wiper fitted to future models. I love the car but this is a huge omission. Added to this is the fact that a badly placed rear camera also gets covered in water running from the rear hatch and road dirt leaves one with zero rear visibility in bad weather.
Just bought myself an Ioniq 6 and realised it doesn't have a rear wiper, I live in the UK, sometimes the rain is so bad visibility is really bad, the lack of a rear wiper is a serious issue, how on earth it gets 5/5 safety while missing a rear wiper?
For me, the ioniq5 is at the top of my next car list (for now). But if Hyundai doesn't add a rear wiper, it will be another model (which mean maybe anopther brand). I live in a northern country and it snows >4 months a year.
I have survived over 10 years with my Chevrolet Volt which does not have a rear wiper and is a similar shape. People complained about that car's lack of a wiper. I have a Ioniq 5 Ultimate on order (not even God knows when it will arrive) and it would be nice to be given the option of a rear wiper. I live in Toronto and we do get real winter here. Rear cameras are nice, but even they get dirty and I have just gotten used to wiping the rear camera lens of the Volt off every time I get out. Have to do the same with my F150 and Ranger. Maybe a washer for the rear camera lens?
I've been looking at 3 current EVs, the VW ID.4, the Ford Mustang Mach-e, and the IONIQ 5. After many RUclips and Automotive reviews I have removed the VW ID.4 from my list. I like the Mach-e but I am holding out for the IONIQ 5 Limited mainly for the addition of the rear wiper. I also love the slide roof shade and lane change cameras. I have a 2014 Prius 4 that is still going strong, so I can hold out a little longer. Would a rear wiper on the IONIQ 5 disrupt the COd that much to drastically affect range!?
The air flow clearly does not hit the rear window. I have had mine for 2 months and already I see its going to be a problem. Although the car is fitted with many censors warning cars are approaching, I think it is dangerous to have a dirty rear window. I am not looking forward to winter, I hate to think what it will be like then with the salt drying on the back window and not being able to see out. Thats what its going to be like. In my driving test I was told to use thre rear view mirror to keep a visual check on the cars around you. If you have a dirty window on a longer journey it would soon become dirty and now that becomes dangerous. I think Hyundai should recall and fit wipers on the grounds of safety.
I think Hyundai try to be Tesla too much with this situation. Hyundai is a legacy manufacturer and should incorporate as much of the good stuff from the traditional cars...
I currently own a KONA EV and have the IONIQ 5 on order. The dealership told me there is a two year wait for this car. I hope the car I get has a rear wiper. I am pretty sure it will be a necessity in the Canadian winters here.
I have a 2022 Ioniq5 ,absolutely love the vehicle, but it’s very dangerous to drive when the rear window gets dirty and can’t be cleared off unless you pull over and stop and manually clean it off, and that’s just temporary depending on the present weather condition. It’s like driving a car that when it snows and you don’t clean the the snow off the car and just look out of the front window. I will not buy another Ioniq5 until they fix this problem .
It needs a rear wiper here in Québec Canada. During winter ❄️ 🥶 time, we can get over 40 cm of snow ⛄️ in one day and I snowboard. I was one of the first in the country to have preordered the car and could of bought it months ago. I cancelled my purchase. In my opinion, this plus the addition of battery preconditioning for fast charging is reason enough to wait a bit. It’s “cool” to have a first year model but as most experts will point out, not the best idea as adjustments are very often added the second year…The rear digital mirror is a good idea and I will get this option if possible. Interesting video!
The digital mirror won't solve anything. The rear end of the car is a notorious dirt magnet. Heck, you have to wipe the rear camera as much as the rear window. Do I regret my purchase of the car? Not even for a second.
@@SasquatchMelee No doubt, it’s a good car and you are must be enjoying it. I don’t know we’re you live. Here, not being able to see in the rear window is not an option. For my travel needs, I really need the new model coming with battery 🔋 preconditioning especially in winter time in minus 35 degrees celsius I get. Luckily, I can keep my car for a good while. The main problem is that I have to wait a very long time in our particular supply chain context to get the Preferred AWD Long Range with Ultimate package.
Having owned an ioniq 5 for a year now, the rear view visibility is not good. If required to reverse to park, like when charging at some fast chargers, i am required to either clean the rear window or the rear camera. IMO when driving poor rear visibility is an unnecessary hazard.
They can do a wiper that tucks in if they are so worried about Dynamics. Or, they can do a reverse wiper, that clings to the top to minimize design clutter
A rear wiper (and windshield fluid) is mandatory when living in northern country. No other accessories is better to clear the messy (salt, mud, snow, ice) windshield when driving on highways. I will not buy a suv without it. It is most useful.
The airflow system only works if the car is moving. But if it rains through polluted air when the car is stationary, and then dries, you're stuffed without a rear wiper! Ridiculous!
The ioniq 5 would hands down be my preferred EV. But... I just drove a mere 250 km trip in a similarly shaped hatchback. Coming home from a snowboarding trip and on that day, the temps had rizen above freezing. It would take roughly 5-10 minutes of driving to gunk up the rear window to a point it was not a see through panel anymore. Any camera in the posterior would suffer the same fate (unless... it came with an effin wiper) so yes, here in the Nordics, this would be a deal breaker for me. Hell, I'd settle for dinky, stupid looking aftermarket pretty much duct taped to the spoiler if it did the trick...
A properly design digital rear wiper mirror, using a camera protected from dust would be way better than a wiper. Also, it would work even if the trunk is loaded up to the roof.
I’m glad I got one before they add a rear wiper. I really detest rear wipers. They always collect sand which scratches the window. Also, if your vision is temporarily hindered in bad weather - so what? If you have ever driven a van, a big rig or even towing something you know it’s not a big issue. Also you have the side mirrors! I really love they the Ioniq 5 does not have a rear wiper 💪
Needs rear wiper. Before buying my BMW X3, I drove an X4. I liked it a whole lot better than the X3, but it did not have a rear wiper. At any speed under 30 miles per hour, the rear window was covered with rain. No rear wiper on I5 is a deal killer!
I do think the Ioniq 5 needs a rear wiper… but also a digital rearview mirror. Do both! Indeed, I actually wish my currrent Tesla Model 3 also had a rear wiper. Moreover, there is one more thing the Ioniq 5 lacks beside a rear wiper: only having a 120V plug on its onboard "granny" EVSE is inadequate. A NEMA 14-50 adapter is a necessity when visiting friends with dryer outlets, RV parks, marinas, etc. Will I buy an Ioniq 5 without those 2 improvements? Yes. But then I'll keep my Tesla UMC with a TeslaTap adapter and just grit my teeth when the rear window is filthy.
It’s been fine during the summer. But in the rain and soon the grime of winter is absolutely a significant issue. I still love my car and I would buy it again even so - but the engineers who came up this hair-brained plan should be fired and never work in this field again. Even at the car wash - the soap doesn’t rinse off - have to manually wipe/rinse it off. It’s quite fun having to back into a tight charging spot with no visibility from the back window and also not the rear camera either because that also easily gets wet/dirty.
The wiper is one of the reasons I am considering the EV6 over the Ionic 5. I live in a place that has a lot of rain and dirt and mud. So wipers are a must
@@CumBrianFries it does't but it does not have the problem with the muddy window because of the shape and slope of the rear window. I've asked friends who own tje ev6
This channel is one of the best, very interesting content as always. I think someone should whrite a book about this, titeld: "The true story behind The Missing Rear Wiper - all the chocking details directly from a secret inside source". I think it would be an iconic bestseller..
Wish they could figure out how to put a nested wiper in the top back, under the spoiler. It would not be visible when not in use. I personally find rear wipers ugly, I have one that sticks out on my micra that is already rusting after five years, the salt has found it's way inside the mechanism and the rust is all around the seal.
They have them for their other models such as the new Tucson. So it's not the matter of whether it can be done. I believe they just want to stick to their original design.
It most definitely needs a rear wiper. Any rain or road spray instantly makes the rear view next to useless. The rear camera is also useless when there is road spray. Rain X makes the rain bead and run off a little better but the rear spoiler and air flow dynamics do not work. Is it a deal breaker, probably yes.
The vehicle is one of the most passionate and intriguing EV's today, and I believe it will be for many years. Even the no-wiper concept and approach is amazing...but only in a concept unfortunately. Perhaps it works well on the KIA EV6, due to the slope. I even told my friend who owns one, that the Ionic 5 community will plead for that little rear wiper in no time.
I have an Ioniq5 Project 45 here in the UK - the wiper would in my view, be a subtle enhancement (albeit at the risk of making the rear look less tidy) - no doubt of that in my view, the rear screen does get dirty and covered in dust and accumulated rain marks - but its' never bad enough to obscure vision through it. Snow (& similar) on the other hand would be far worse & it may be best removing snow & ice from the rear glass by hand rather than using the wiper as it may not (depending on the weight of the snow) be ideal to allow the wiper to clear it for you...I think the FDM (full display mirror - digital rear view mirror basically) was a better solution overall (though it's been dropped now from the UK at least) than the rear wiper. The rear wiper is far more useful in the Winter months but all this this just my 2cents / tuppence :)
Long overdue, was always a deal breaker...try driving on irish country roads in irish climate and then tell me you don't need a rear wiper lol. I drove an ioniq for 2 years with no rear wiper...never ever again but will only believe it when i see it.
I think the spoiler section should be designed as wing profile and the rear edge of spoiler should be sharp and spolers direction turned more parallel to the rear glass. This issue needs tests.
Kia EV6 owner who don’t miss the wiper. I live in Denmark and have had the car since November. I had not thought about it before I read the complaints. I really don’t see the issue. Btw I love the EV6.
Rear wiper issue is annoying, but can there's a button to turn on the rear parking camera as you drive, which acts as a very credible virtual rear view mirror, so in practice it's a bit of a non issue.
I’ve got a Namsan on order (I have a project 45 now) - the current online brochure states “rear wiper” - so I think we can probably assume it’s standard spec …
@@tusdardcart I’ll check again when I get home but I’m certain of it now as Hyundai UK are dropping the FDM full display mirror (digital rear view mirror) from the Namsan - so I wonder why they’re doing that? Also noted present on pre-production N model too - so I think you can expect to see it soon…. I think I’d prefer the fdm because the wiper makes the rear hatch look untidy - they’re placing it Olay the bottom - not hiding within the spoiler from what I can deduce…
Sorry for the delay - they've removed all traces of that "Rear Wiper" in the 08/2022 edition- I promise it was there & I'm fuming I haven't kept their last version where it was detailed. Additionally, they've also removed *almost* all traces of "FDM" too - my dealer called me (on my Namsan order - the 1st AWD order in the UK mine is apparently) to tell me that Hyundai UK are dropping the FDM / Full Display Mirror from the UK spec & reducing the price by £250 (big deal & I'm unhappy about that but understand why - given the ghostly disappearance of the rear wiper!)... however, they've accidentally left one sentence still in there about FDM under DSM in the current iteration of their UK brochure: "The DSM (Digital Side Mirror) systems will feature as standard on the Namsan Edition and utilises two side mounted, low profile high definition cameras in the traditional side mirror locations, as well as two interior, door card mounted screens. This high-tech feature will be available in Europe for the first time in a Hyundai Motor Group vehicle. The DSM reduce air resistance and provide IONIQ 5 customers with an enhanced rear view, even in bad weather. FDM comes as standard on Premium Trim and above, DSM comes as standard on Namsan Edition only.". SO ... I personally guess that: 1) They'll remove that comment (as they did for Rear wiper - probably after reading my posts) as well when they read this! 2) That the euro model WILL have a rear-wiper - which is why they dropped FDM. The Rear-wiper looks untidy where they're seemingly having to place it & I think that could be because the N trim spoiler probably couldn't accommodate it within the N rear spoiler (different to the usual Ioniq 5 spoiler) which would make production costs even more expensive. I'd switch car to the N if it was "orderable"; on the N model, cooled seats probably won't be available (as they'll fit bucket heated-only type ones) nor the fixed glass sunroof either (like Kia does in the EV6) - although I dint know what - I guess it wouldn't be a Namsan - so that's why! The EV6 (non-GT) has an opening sunroof. I'm very disappointed in the quality of information for people like me who're ordering their next vehicle almost blind. My P45 wasn't new to me when I got it (for various reasons) so I wanted my own from new - hence the NS order.
I am still so excited for this car and I hope that I can afford to get one someday soon. I honestly believe the rear wiper is the only strike against this car from it being perfect. I hope the Hyundai does something about it.
I really do not get all the talk about the rear wiper, having driven box trucks and larger vehicles with no rear visibility, you really should not need more backwards visibility than the side mirrors can provide you to be a safe driver...
I once owned a 1978 Pontiac Trans Am that needed no rear wiper. At speed the air rushing over the rear window cleaned it and kept it dry even in heavy rain. Some old vehicles are more advanced than some people think.
I would NOT buy a Hyundai IONIC 5 IFF the car does NOT have a REAR Wiper. At present I have a CITROEN Ec4 without a rear wiper and it is really stupid in the UK . it will certainly affect future sales of those electric cars without a REAR WIPER.. Jim Thomas. Liverpool.
I cant believe how people cannot find the rest 2000 model cars across all brands that dont have rear wiper but focus on this one... Just buy repellent spray and be happy with the design OMG
The lack of a rear wiper while annoying, isn't a deal breaker for me. I'm more interested in finding out what the suspension setup for the I5N is going to be. Active air suspension would be my choice but I'll be interested to see what the specs are. I'd love to buy an I5N
Hi, the IONIQ 5 N is to feature strut suspension up front and a multilink in the rear. The shocks are independently adjustable for compression and rebound, and known to be height adjustable.
@@koreancarnews thanks for the info. Does this mean that it will be possible to have stiffer suspension in sport mode and softer for normal? I live in speed bump city (Sydney's inner west) and would prefer not to be bouncing the elderly in-laws around when shuttling them around. Many thanks for your great videos
I agree, I’m in my i5 now & the rear screen happens to be dirty but I can almost always - if not always, see through it just fine - genuinely, having owned (a project 45) - I wasn’t 100% happy pre-ownership but I’m genuinely not bothered about the inclusion of a rear wiper (in the Namsan edition I have on order; yes, it’s stated in the specifications in the brochure here in the UK) but each to their own - I’d like rear sun blinds in the rear that I have now in the P45 - I’m pretty sure Hyundai have dropped them on the Namsan - I quite like having the windows rolled down for ventilation whilst charging whilst the sun visors are up - which provides shade and some privacy. Doubt many would agree with my feelings on that - they may say they’re not used much (same too with the rear electric seats!).
I have seen enough Ioniq5's with obscured dirty rear windows and hatches to realize that they, like my Kona Electric, have poor aerodynamics at the back. For obvious safety reasons, the Ioniq5 needs a rear window washer/wiper. My Hyundai Kona Electric has a rear window washer/wiper; without that, it would be like driving without rear window visibility much of the time! Please give it a think Hyundai, driving along busy highways and sideroads in wet conditions, there's potentially a great deal of grime and dirt hitting the front windshield, enveloping the entire vehicle. Thankfully you have installed front window washer/wipers. Please don't ignore the importance of rear window visibility for the otherwise amazing Ioniq5.
Vehicles without a rear wiper should be classified as sedans , if you have a hatchback you should also have a wiper . Europe , Canada and the northern Us states have rain and snow to contend with . Despite all the positives I will Not buy any hatchback without a rear wiper .
Unfortunately EV’S will still be very expensive in the near future . It seems that car companies want us to invest beyond our expections in vehs . My last veh in canada cost $ 45,000 it was a mitsubushi phev . Now Hyundai comes out with an EV that mid trim will cost $ 65,000 and for that amount there is no rear wiper included . Shake you head Hyundai, Nissan EV has a rear wiper so does the Mach E .
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Rear wiper is a must for a hatchback in snow/rainy country. Rear camera too, since we can load the luggage at the back to full height.
I ma used to drive vehicles that don't even have a rear window at all. So even if I think it would be better with one, it won't stop me from buying one.
No, it's not enough to put me off buying one, but it's annoying just the same.
I can't believe that someone hasn't developed a secondary market stick on one. Maybe battery and recharged through the glass, or a specialist tool to drill a hole.
I live in Costa Rica and it rains A LOT! It's going to be interesting to see how things work out!
Thanks for posting.
Only negativ point on the ioniq 5 is the missing wirer here in denmark, have to clean the Windows manuel
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There is no way that winter salt splashed by passing cars and trucks in Canada will be cleaned by wind. You need to use windshield washer and a wiper.
Using rear view cameras also get the salt on them. So the rear view cameras help but it too is not better than a wiper.
Great report with lots of fact information. Yes Ioniq 5 should have a rear wiper!
The lack of a rear wiper is a showstopper here in Canada.
I have had an I5 from last September, here in the UK the weather in our winters demand a rear wiper I am now fitting a rear camera as part of a dash cam to get round the problem. My other beef is having to switch of the lane assist each time, I want it off permanently!
But other than that I believe this to be one of the best cars I have owned and I have had the lot!
why not just hit the p button and use the installed rear parking camera while you drive? that's what I do. it's good. Completely agree about the lane and braking assist which are horribly intrusive
Missing wiper was an unforced error from Hyundai and Kia. They should definitely rectify that omission as soon as possible.
I totally agree with your view also the charging port on the off side for the right hand drive version of this car is another terrible error in design for a £50,000 car, I loved the design but these two faults put me off considering it as an option for the future.
Rear wipers are unnecessary, especially on this car.
@@JohnCap523 Not sure about that. Many people in areas with snow complain. The rear glass on my current hatch gets filthy.
@@jghall00 I have a very similar car and I never need the rear wiper. Same for my wife’s Prius. The original blade is still on there after 88,000 miles. It never gets used. Rear wipers are ineffective moving snow anyway. The rear defogger is much more important.
I think they are - they've removed "FDM" so I suspect that we'll see a RW on the next variation.
I did not buy a Prius Prime 6 years ago because it does not have a rear wiper. I will not buy a hatchback without one!
Rear wiper for Ioniq 5…absolutely YES. I drive that car since October 2021, great choice, but the rear wiper is necessary!!!
Same for; we've done 22,000km since Oct 21 and would welcome the wiper. Lovely car otherwise
I live in Canada and I am considering buying an Ioniq 5. But, yes, the absence of a rear wiper has an impact on my decision. Not being able to see out of my rear window for a good part of the winter, and having to get out of my car to clear the rear window everytime I need to back into a charging station is a sizeable irritant to me.
My wife and my son have both bought the 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 (RWD, Preferred). They absolutely loved their cars.
The one and only critism they have is the lack of rear wiper.
I have order myself the Ioniq 5 Preferred AWD Long Range / Ultimate package in last December. I should receive the vehicle in May 2023.
I really hope that it will have a rear wiper. It is a safety issue.
We live in the province of Québec, Canada. Our cold and snowy winter are severe. A rear wiper is a must.
Also, we have notice that due to the dirt and snow, some sensors were getting blocked and causing the HDA and cruise control to shut down.
So on long trip in bad winter conditions, we had to stop to clean front and rear sensors and the windshield.
This is annoying, but totally normal under the circumstances. But the lack of a rear wiper is flagrant at all time, all year round (rainy and snowy conditions). It is a safety issue.
I hope Hyundai will listen to their customers, to the car reviews about their Ioniq 5 and add a rear wiper to the 2023 Hyundai Ioniq 5.
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Never thought that a fckn REAR WIPER is the thing that I would miss most on my Hightech-car
It is a major concern, specialy here in Canada
I own one, and this is my biggest bugbear, in UK this is really needed!
The no wiper only works if it’s light rain. Any type of mud, snow, extreme dust require rear wiper. Also, I wish the Model Y had a wiper as well!
I don't miss the wiper, but I live in Florida and don't deal with dirty snow. My biggest gripe is the sound of the unused seatbelts rattling. The front passenger seat belt bounces against the seat when not being used, and the back seat belts bounce against the side of the car nearly every time a passenger leaves the car. A little piece of foam between the seatbelt and seat fixes the front, but only repositioning helps in the rear. This car is so good, it's hard to find any fault.
I agree with the little rattles & so forth, I have a tapping noise in mine which I cannot locate / pinpoint & Hyundai UK are very unreasonable about having a dealer rectify it even under the 1st year of warranty. Their warranty is a challenge use compared to other manufacturers in my opinion.
Living in the kingdom of RoadSalts, (Montreal, Canada), I will tell you that wipers are ESSENTIAL!!! Especially while crossing lanes in heavy traffic. In those conditions you can’t go fast enough to spoil away salty fluids by airflow. When the liquid sets on the glass it spreads and dries quickly to form a thick white veil that you can’t see through, making it very difficult to maneuver safely. This alone could tick off Canada safety officials to blacklist the IONIQ 5 and stop sales here…😵💫😟
To answer the last question, I think I wouldn’t buy the Ionic 5 because of that issue. I live in Quebec and winter conditions are extremely difficult. I have seen too many Ionic 5 with rear windows filled with calcium residue that left no clear rear view for the driver. I once saw a guy stopped on a street corner to wash is rear window with a squeegee. They definitively need to fix that issue for winter markets like our. Thanks
Pat, j'en ai une depuis fin janvier. Oui, c'est plate mais on finit par voir mieux qu'on pense parce qu'elle finit par se nettoyer une fois que ça se met à sécher. Et oui, j'ai un petit squeegee dans la valise pour faire la job à chaque fois que je prends une pause. Ma fille a une EV6 et elle n'a pas vraiment ce problème mais sa voiture est pas mal moins confortable.
Même chose pour moi.
Personally, living in the UK I haven't had any problems. I will have to see what it is like with grit on the road in winter though.
One thing I recommend is using Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions ceramic spray on the rear windscreen, as suggested by The Ioniq Guy on RUclips. That helps, though without the visibility was fine with me. It is also great at reducing the need to wash the car in general as rain can basically wash away the dirt now.
YES …! Is definitely needed and I would not buy a car like that without one.
I mean this is so basic i don't even know why they even thought of leaving it off. If you have ever been in slow moving or standing traffic and it snows then it builds up quickly and without a wiper it needs the heater element to be switched on which I'm sure uses more power than a wiper motor and they definately get snow in S.Korea.
Even in the UK were we dont get snow that much we do get very dirty salty roads in the winter and that stuff get everywhere and once on the glass if you dont have a washer/wiper you have to get out and clean it off your self, same applies to bird crap which dries on like concrete. This is just a case of well Tesla doesn't have one so we cant have one either. Someone at the testing stage wasn't doing there job or being ignored for the sake of a clean but flawed design.
I live in northern Vermont and we have winter and dirt back roads here. The lack of the rear wiper is a safety hazard and I would advise folks to look at other EV cars until they fix this problem. On a wet/snowy day there is NO visibility out the back window. I am forced to use my 2 side mirrors which don't show the whole picture. Please fix this Hyundai!
Rear wiper is a must.
I would not consider this vehicle otherwise.
Having just bought an Ioniq 5 in Ireland where it rains from time to time 😊I can say that I would not consider another unless there was a rear wiper fitted to future models. I love the car but this is a huge omission. Added to this is the fact that a badly placed rear camera also gets covered in water running from the rear hatch and road dirt leaves one with zero rear visibility in bad weather.
Just bought myself an Ioniq 6 and realised it doesn't have a rear wiper, I live in the UK, sometimes the rain is so bad visibility is really bad, the lack of a rear wiper is a serious issue, how on earth it gets 5/5 safety while missing a rear wiper?
For me, the ioniq5 is at the top of my next car list (for now). But if Hyundai doesn't add a rear wiper, it will be another model (which mean maybe anopther brand). I live in a northern country and it snows >4 months a year.
Yes, it's absolutely a most in Northern countries. We really hope Hyundai comes to its senses and put it into every IONIQ 5.
I have survived over 10 years with my Chevrolet Volt which does not have a rear wiper and is a similar shape. People complained about that car's lack of a wiper. I have a Ioniq 5 Ultimate on order (not even God knows when it will arrive) and it would be nice to be given the option of a rear wiper. I live in Toronto and we do get real winter here. Rear cameras are nice, but even they get dirty and I have just gotten used to wiping the rear camera lens of the Volt off every time I get out. Have to do the same with my F150 and Ranger. Maybe a washer for the rear camera lens?
The Volt is a similar shape???? Do you mean the Bolt? The Volt is a sedan, not a hatchback. No?
I've been looking at 3 current EVs, the VW ID.4, the Ford Mustang Mach-e, and the IONIQ 5. After many RUclips and Automotive reviews I have removed the VW ID.4 from my list. I like the Mach-e but I am holding out for the IONIQ 5 Limited mainly for the addition of the rear wiper. I also love the slide roof shade and lane change cameras. I have a 2014 Prius 4 that is still going strong, so I can hold out a little longer. Would a rear wiper on the IONIQ 5 disrupt the COd that much to drastically affect range!?
As they are putting it into the IONIQ5 N, the additional drag should be minimal. It's just more of their design concept. ;)
The air flow clearly does not hit the rear window. I have had mine for 2 months and already I see its going to be a problem. Although the car is fitted with many censors warning cars are approaching, I think it is dangerous to have a dirty rear window. I am not looking forward to winter, I hate to think what it will be like then with the salt drying on the back window and not being able to see out. Thats what its going to be like. In my driving test I was told to use thre rear view mirror to keep a visual check on the cars around you. If you have a dirty window on a longer journey it would soon become dirty and now that becomes dangerous. I think Hyundai should recall and fit wipers on the grounds of safety.
I think Hyundai try to be Tesla too much with this situation. Hyundai is a legacy manufacturer and should incorporate as much of the good stuff from the traditional cars...
I currently own a KONA EV and have the IONIQ 5 on order. The dealership told me there is a two year wait for this car. I hope the car I get has a rear wiper. I am pretty sure it will be a necessity in the Canadian winters here.
Right, because rain and other stuff is only falling on the rear window of a car while driving, never when it's stationary!? 🤔😜
I have a 2022 Ioniq5 ,absolutely love the vehicle, but it’s very dangerous to drive when the rear window gets dirty and can’t be cleared off unless you pull over and stop and manually clean it off, and that’s just temporary depending on the present weather condition. It’s like driving a car that when it snows and you don’t clean the the snow off the car and just look out of the front window. I will not buy another Ioniq5 until they fix this problem .
It needs a rear wiper here in Québec Canada. During winter ❄️ 🥶 time, we can get over 40 cm of snow ⛄️ in one day and I snowboard. I was one of the first in the country to have preordered the car and could of bought it months ago. I cancelled my purchase. In my opinion, this plus the addition of battery preconditioning for fast charging is reason enough to wait a bit. It’s “cool” to have a first year model but as most experts will point out, not the best idea as adjustments are very often added the second year…The rear digital mirror is a good idea and I will get this option if possible. Interesting video!
The digital mirror won't solve anything. The rear end of the car is a notorious dirt magnet. Heck, you have to wipe the rear camera as much as the rear window. Do I regret my purchase of the car? Not even for a second.
@@SasquatchMelee No doubt, it’s a good car and you are must be enjoying it. I don’t know we’re you live. Here, not being able to see in the rear window is not an option. For my travel needs, I really need the new model coming with battery 🔋 preconditioning especially in winter time in minus 35 degrees celsius I get. Luckily, I can keep my car for a good while. The main problem is that I have to wait a very long time in our particular supply chain context to get the Preferred AWD Long Range with Ultimate package.
Absolutely need the rear wiper!
Having owned an ioniq 5 for a year now, the rear view visibility is not good. If required to reverse to park, like when charging at some fast chargers, i am required to either clean the rear window or the rear camera.
IMO when driving poor rear visibility is an unnecessary hazard.
They can do a wiper that tucks in if they are so worried about Dynamics. Or, they can do a reverse wiper, that clings to the top to minimize design clutter
They are stubborn lol
So it didn't stop me getting a HI5, but I agree it does need one in Scotland
A rear wiper (and windshield fluid) is mandatory when living in northern country. No other accessories is better to clear the messy (salt, mud, snow, ice) windshield when driving on highways. I will not buy a suv without it. It is most useful.
I have the previous model Ioniq Electric, that doesn’t have a rear wiper either, and I don’t miss it.
The airflow system only works if the car is moving. But if it rains through polluted air when the car is stationary, and then dries, you're stuffed without a rear wiper! Ridiculous!
Do you think a well designed digital rearview mirror would work for you?
I have already purchased an Ioniq 5 but I would very much like to add a rear wiper!
The ioniq 5 would hands down be my preferred EV. But... I just drove a mere 250 km trip in a similarly shaped hatchback. Coming home from a snowboarding trip and on that day, the temps had rizen above freezing. It would take roughly 5-10 minutes of driving to gunk up the rear window to a point it was not a see through panel anymore. Any camera in the posterior would suffer the same fate (unless... it came with an effin wiper) so yes, here in the Nordics, this would be a deal breaker for me. Hell, I'd settle for dinky, stupid looking aftermarket pretty much duct taped to the spoiler if it did the trick...
A properly design digital rear wiper mirror, using a camera protected from dust would be way better than a wiper. Also, it would work even if the trunk is loaded up to the roof.
I’m glad I got one before they add a rear wiper. I really detest rear wipers. They always collect sand which scratches the window. Also, if your vision is temporarily hindered in bad weather - so what? If you have ever driven a van, a big rig or even towing something you know it’s not a big issue. Also you have the side mirrors!
I really love they the Ioniq 5 does not have a rear wiper 💪
Ja ook wij willen een achterruitwisser op onze Ioniq5.
Maybe Hyundai should redesign the rear spoiler of the IONIQ 5 to do a better job cleaning the rear windshield.
Surely they wont leave the wiper as a "feature" on the high performance car only.
Greetings from southern Ontario Canada I really enjoyed the video
Thank you so much!
Needs rear wiper. Before buying my BMW X3, I drove an X4. I liked it a whole lot better than the X3, but it did not have a rear wiper. At any speed under 30 miles per hour, the rear window was covered with rain. No rear wiper on I5 is a deal killer!
That's truly the question of style vs practicality...
Rear Wiper is a must.
Safety first, not style first
It’s such a nice car but it’s so silly that they’re not listening to their customer feedback. The vehicle needs a rear wiper.
Now rear whiper No car sold to me 😏 it's a shame is a beautiful car 😀
I do think the Ioniq 5 needs a rear wiper… but also a digital rearview mirror. Do both! Indeed, I actually wish my currrent Tesla Model 3 also had a rear wiper. Moreover, there is one more thing the Ioniq 5 lacks beside a rear wiper: only having a 120V plug on its onboard "granny" EVSE is inadequate. A NEMA 14-50 adapter is a necessity when visiting friends with dryer outlets, RV parks, marinas, etc. Will I buy an Ioniq 5 without those 2 improvements? Yes. But then I'll keep my Tesla UMC with a TeslaTap adapter and just grit my teeth when the rear window is filthy.
It’s been fine during the summer. But in the rain and soon the grime of winter is absolutely a significant issue. I still love my car and I would buy it again even so - but the engineers who came up this hair-brained plan should be fired and never work in this field again. Even at the car wash - the soap doesn’t rinse off - have to manually wipe/rinse it off. It’s quite fun having to back into a tight charging spot with no visibility from the back window and also not the rear camera either because that also easily gets wet/dirty.
Yes, it's worth to have a wipers on that vehicul
Digital mirror is easy fix or redesign the spoiler to for more air to divert to the glass.
No wiper = deal breaker.. esp when it's Included on competing cars.
Yes it’s needs a rear wiper we know they work!!!!!
The wiper is one of the reasons I am considering the EV6 over the Ionic 5. I live in a place that has a lot of rain and dirt and mud. So wipers are a must
Wtf are you talking about? The Kia EV6 also doesn't have a rear wiper!
@@CumBrianFries it does't but it does not have the problem with the muddy window because of the shape and slope of the rear window. I've asked friends who own tje ev6
It works pretty well on the EV six maybe because of the slope of the rear window is different
Yes, you really don't hear of people complaining about EV6.
Should have one
Absolutely!
Add the rear wiper
This channel is one of the best, very interesting content as always.
I think someone should whrite a book about this, titeld:
"The true story behind The Missing Rear Wiper - all the chocking details directly from a secret inside source".
I think it would be an iconic bestseller..
My goodness! Thank you so much for the compliment! Care to publish the book yourself? ;)
Well... My sallary is on the premium side, but I would like to.
And after that, maybee a movie? Somebody here with good connections?@@koreancarnews
Can you do a couple new videos on supply and demand numbers? Also, the cars catching fires dangers....
Yes, we will try to keep you posted.
I have an Ioniq5 and yes, it needs a wiper.
Wish they could figure out how to put a nested wiper in the top back, under the spoiler. It would not be visible when not in use. I personally find rear wipers ugly, I have one that sticks out on my micra that is already rusting after five years, the salt has found it's way inside the mechanism and the rust is all around the seal.
They have them for their other models such as the new Tucson. So it's not the matter of whether it can be done. I believe they just want to stick to their original design.
It most definitely needs a rear wiper. Any rain or road spray instantly makes the rear view next to useless.
The rear camera is also useless when there is road spray.
Rain X makes the rain bead and run off a little better but the rear spoiler and air flow dynamics do not work.
Is it a deal breaker, probably yes.
Good they are putting it where it works too and not trying to hide it for looks which causes dripping
I will not buy an Ioniq 5 until they add a rear wiper!!
The vehicle is one of the most passionate and intriguing EV's today, and I believe it will be for many years. Even the no-wiper concept and approach is amazing...but only in a concept unfortunately. Perhaps it works well on the KIA EV6, due to the slope. I even told my friend who owns one, that the Ionic 5 community will plead for that little rear wiper in no time.
I have an Ioniq5 Project 45 here in the UK - the wiper would in my view, be a subtle enhancement (albeit at the risk of making the rear look less tidy) - no doubt of that in my view, the rear screen does get dirty and covered in dust and accumulated rain marks - but its' never bad enough to obscure vision through it. Snow (& similar) on the other hand would be far worse & it may be best removing snow & ice from the rear glass by hand rather than using the wiper as it may not (depending on the weight of the snow) be ideal to allow the wiper to clear it for you...I think the FDM (full display mirror - digital rear view mirror basically) was a better solution overall (though it's been dropped now from the UK at least) than the rear wiper. The rear wiper is far more useful in the Winter months but all this this just my 2cents / tuppence :)
I have a I5 in the uk and the rear wiper is not an issue as many cars especially saloons don't have them anyway.
The rear trunk or deck sucks air down to clean the rear glass on sedans. This hatchback should have one IMO.
Long overdue, was always a deal breaker...try driving on irish country roads in irish climate and then tell me you don't need a rear wiper lol. I drove an ioniq for 2 years with no rear wiper...never ever again but will only believe it when i see it.
I think the spoiler section should be designed as wing profile and the rear edge of spoiler should be sharp and spolers direction turned more parallel to the rear glass. This issue needs tests.
Kia EV6 owner who don’t miss the wiper. I live in Denmark and have had the car since November. I had not thought about it before I read the complaints. I really don’t see the issue. Btw I love the EV6.
Yes, it's probably because the EV6 has a sloped rear windshield.
Rear wiper issue is annoying, but can there's a button to turn on the rear parking camera as you drive, which acts as a very credible virtual rear view mirror, so in practice it's a bit of a non issue.
The Ioniq 5 is an expensive vehicle (at least in the Limited trim level) and this seems to be a critical omission.
I’ve got a Namsan on order (I have a project 45 now) - the current online brochure states “rear wiper” - so I think we can probably assume it’s standard spec …
Wow, that's surprising. Hopefully that's not just the UK thing...
I don't see any mention of a rear wiper in the brochure I just downloaded (dated 07/2022)
@@tusdardcart I’ll check again when I get home but I’m certain of it now as Hyundai UK are dropping the FDM full display mirror (digital rear view mirror) from the Namsan - so I wonder why they’re doing that? Also noted present on pre-production N model too - so I think you can expect to see it soon…. I think I’d prefer the fdm because the wiper makes the rear hatch look untidy - they’re placing it Olay the bottom - not hiding within the spoiler from what I can deduce…
Sorry for the delay - they've removed all traces of that "Rear Wiper" in the 08/2022 edition- I promise it was there & I'm fuming I haven't kept their last version where it was detailed. Additionally, they've also removed *almost* all traces of "FDM" too - my dealer called me (on my Namsan order - the 1st AWD order in the UK mine is apparently) to tell me that Hyundai UK are dropping the FDM / Full Display Mirror from the UK spec & reducing the price by £250 (big deal & I'm unhappy about that but understand why - given the ghostly disappearance of the rear wiper!)... however, they've accidentally left one sentence still in there about FDM under DSM in the current iteration of their UK brochure: "The DSM (Digital Side Mirror) systems will feature as standard on the Namsan Edition and utilises two side mounted, low profile high definition cameras in the traditional side mirror locations, as well as two interior, door card mounted screens. This high-tech feature will be available in Europe for the first time in a Hyundai Motor Group vehicle. The DSM reduce air resistance and provide IONIQ 5 customers with an enhanced rear view, even in bad weather. FDM comes as standard on Premium Trim and above, DSM comes as standard on Namsan Edition only.".
SO ... I personally guess that:
1) They'll remove that comment (as they did for Rear wiper - probably after reading my posts) as well when they read this!
2) That the euro model WILL have a rear-wiper - which is why they dropped FDM.
The Rear-wiper looks untidy where they're seemingly having to place it & I think that could be because the N trim spoiler probably couldn't accommodate it within the N rear spoiler (different to the usual Ioniq 5 spoiler) which would make production costs even more expensive.
I'd switch car to the N if it was "orderable"; on the N model, cooled seats probably won't be available (as they'll fit bucket heated-only type ones) nor the fixed glass sunroof either (like Kia does in the EV6) - although I dint know what - I guess it wouldn't be a Namsan - so that's why! The EV6 (non-GT) has an opening sunroof.
I'm very disappointed in the quality of information for people like me who're ordering their next vehicle almost blind. My P45 wasn't new to me when I got it (for various reasons) so I wanted my own from new - hence the NS order.
I am still so excited for this car and I hope that I can afford to get one someday soon. I honestly believe the rear wiper is the only strike against this car from it being perfect. I hope the Hyundai does something about it.
Wait for the 6 don’t get the 5
Yes needs rear wiper.
It needs a rear wiper if they want me to buy one.
I really do not get all the talk about the rear wiper, having driven box trucks and larger vehicles with no rear visibility, you really should not need more backwards visibility than the side mirrors can provide you to be a safe driver...
Yes, but it should be from the top. From the bottom, it would really take away from the sleek design.
tl;dr: I5N seems to have a rear wiper. Details unclear.
I once owned a 1978 Pontiac Trans Am that needed no rear wiper. At speed the air rushing over the rear window cleaned it and kept it dry even in heavy rain. Some old vehicles are more advanced than some people think.
I would NOT buy a Hyundai IONIC 5 IFF the car does NOT have a REAR Wiper.
At present I have a CITROEN Ec4 without a rear wiper and it is really stupid in the UK . it will certainly affect future sales of those electric cars without a REAR WIPER.. Jim Thomas. Liverpool.
Get one on them and a heat pump as standard across all models
The Genesis GV60 doesn’t have one either
No, one of the Korean 800V crossovers do.
Yes it needs A rear wiper
Yes, it turned me off when I watched a video overview of the Ionic 5 so I placed my name for the nexr order of EV6 instead.
My prayers would be answered if I could order the limited edition and get it fully loaded. Tired of having to settle.
You said it brother! Amen
They didn't test the aerodynamics of the rear windshield for the past 3 years?!??
I cant believe how people cannot find the rest 2000 model cars across all brands that dont have rear wiper but focus on this one... Just buy repellent spray and be happy with the design OMG
Why would a current Ioniq 5 owner be happy that they added a wiper?? They going to trade in for wiper?
Yes i want wiper
The lack of a rear wiper while annoying, isn't a deal breaker for me. I'm more interested in finding out what the suspension setup for the I5N is going to be. Active air suspension would be my choice but I'll be interested to see what the specs are. I'd love to buy an I5N
Hi, the IONIQ 5 N is to feature strut suspension up front and a multilink in the rear. The shocks are independently adjustable for compression and rebound, and known to be height adjustable.
@@koreancarnews thanks for the info. Does this mean that it will be possible to have stiffer suspension in sport mode and softer for normal? I live in speed bump city (Sydney's inner west) and would prefer not to be bouncing the elderly in-laws around when shuttling them around. Many thanks for your great videos
I agree, I’m in my i5 now & the rear screen happens to be dirty but I can almost always - if not always, see through it just fine - genuinely, having owned (a project 45) - I wasn’t 100% happy pre-ownership but I’m genuinely not bothered about the inclusion of a rear wiper (in the Namsan edition I have on order; yes, it’s stated in the specifications in the brochure here in the UK) but each to their own - I’d like rear sun blinds in the rear that I have now in the P45 - I’m pretty sure Hyundai have dropped them on the Namsan - I quite like having the windows rolled down for ventilation whilst charging whilst the sun visors are up - which provides shade and some privacy. Doubt many would agree with my feelings on that - they may say they’re not used much (same too with the rear electric seats!).
I have seen enough Ioniq5's with obscured dirty rear windows and hatches to realize that they, like my Kona Electric, have poor aerodynamics at the back. For obvious safety reasons, the Ioniq5 needs a rear window washer/wiper.
My Hyundai Kona Electric has a rear window washer/wiper; without that, it would be like driving without rear window visibility much of the time!
Please give it a think Hyundai, driving along busy highways and sideroads in wet conditions, there's potentially a great deal of grime and dirt hitting the front windshield, enveloping the entire vehicle. Thankfully you have installed front window washer/wipers. Please don't ignore the importance of rear window visibility for the otherwise amazing Ioniq5.
Yes it would stop me from buying!
Needs a rear wiper for sure...make it aerodynamic.
Vehicles without a rear wiper should be classified as sedans , if you have a hatchback you should also have a wiper . Europe , Canada and the northern Us states have rain and snow to contend with . Despite all the positives I will Not buy any hatchback without a rear wiper .
No wiper, not buying.
아오5 도 트렁크 유리 하단에 각지게 생긴 스포일러를 추가하면 적어도 밑에서 올라오는 먼지는 막을텐데
Unfortunately EV’S will still be very expensive in the near future . It seems that car companies want us to invest beyond our expections in vehs . My last veh in canada cost $ 45,000 it was a mitsubushi phev . Now Hyundai comes out with an EV that mid trim will cost $ 65,000 and for that amount there is no rear wiper included . Shake you head Hyundai, Nissan EV has a rear wiper so does the Mach E .