An important takeaway from this video is about using Ryzen master to see what AUTO values actually are and entering them into the BIOS because a reboot may set then differently and your OC could become unstable
I bought two of these kits to run 4 stick in dual rank with a MSI x570 Tomahawk & 5600X. I got them running 14-8-13-11-30 and used all the other timings seen in this video but with lower voltages. They passed 830% coverage in Memtest Pro with no errors. I'm really happy with the results, thanks Buildzoid.
@Manuel G damn son. Win the lottery much? I mean granted my kit is 3200 cl14 stock so I kinda had to bump a bit, makes more sense dropping frequency from stock kit from this video
@Manuel G no, this kit is rated for cl19 @ 1.45V... My 3200cl14 g.skill 2x 16Gb kit can hit the same timings @ 3800 (actually my timings are a bit better). This is a good kit but not any better than a g.skill 3200cl14, you should get whatever is cheaper.
@@deminybs my new 2x16Gb 3200cl14 could make the same timings @3800 @1.5V as this Patriot 4400, the manufacturing process is just more mature at this end of the DDR4 cycle.
@Manuel G can I ask what board and what settings you tweaked? sorry if it's a hassle, but I really need 32gb and want to get the most I can get out of out of the 3950x I'll be buying on Thursday without breaking the bank too much.
I love this memory; I bought 2 2x8 kits of it for my x570 aorus elite on a 3800x. It's a shame they won't boot at anything over 3600mhz but at cl14 I can't complain
@@captainlafty4606 Maybe. I think he needs better cooling for the dimms, to run 1,5v without errors. GDM on. Is it a rev2 Board? If not memory architecture could be an issue.
@@jonsnow2555 gear down mode, it is kinda like between 1T command rate and 2T as it runs half clock for some things and certain timings have to be even numbered like tCL.
@@fepethepenguin8287 Viper Steel 3733 and 3866 kits are CJR. I wanted B-Die and I have a daisy chain board so 2 sticks was not only cheaper, but better.
Thanks Buildzoid, saved me a bunch of time here. I think the tRCDRD was the issue for me before. 5 mins of TM5 no issues so far, whereas I had errors within seconds with lower than 16. Edit: seems fully stable. Anta666 extreme 6 cycles, 1000% HCI memtest. Ryzen 7 5700X & B550 Mortar
I picked up the 4000 CL19 (b-die) version of this kit 4x8gb on a C6H with a 3800X. Running it at 3800CL16 with fast timings at 1.35v 1:1:1 1.05v soc. Not bad for X370 and 4 sticks. I just wish they had a temperature sensor. I paid £100 per kit off Overclockers.co.uk so £200 for 32gb 4 dimms of b-die, insane value. They replaced my G.Skill Trident Z 3200CL14 kit
Grabbed the same 4x8gb 4000 kit also with a 3900x/B550 before I saw this video on the 4400 kit.... Have you tried any tighter timing recently? Still waiting on mobo to arrive
@@TechKanucks Have you managed to get it post at stock or XMP? what is the processor? I haven't touched this in a while it might be take me some time, let me see what I can find. Do you get bios?
Here I am at 6:00 am watching AHO's second video featuring the CL 19 19 19 39 ViperSteel memories and, after listening being soo bold about them for nearly 90 minutes, I just had to "buy now" a pair; after testing, hopefully, I;ll try to score the second one. Wat to go!!!!
Got 4 sticks of these and they're running at 3800 MHz 14-15-13-21 on an MSI x570 Unify. Wanted to say thanks for the video, it was enormously useful as I started at your OC and then tightened from there following your advice. Dropped Vsoc to 1.025 and dropped Vvddg to compensate as I do have PCIe 4 devices and your comment there was useful too. Cheers.
@@raceace5793 Yup, running great more than a year later. I used the timings from this video. Here're my notes on those: imgur.com/xtXu5QZ I had to reduce Vsoc to 1.0V because 1.15 was preventing mem OC on my GPU over PCIe 4.0. bz mentions this as a possible side effect in the video, so no surprise there. Good luck and enjoy your memory!
@@gitv1ld hi would you mind rewriting the values I can’t seem to make them out. I’m new to pc and have a solid set up and want to run your settings if your still using them
Just for future reference: The infinity fabric does have a error correction system, which can degrade performance when overused. Usually you can see that with perfomance degradation in Linpack and with Whea 19 warnings in the Event Viewer.
Regarding replacing AIDA, would you consider DRAM CALCULATOR MemTest tab as an option. I believe it is an automated routine of what you already do. And it has memory latency tests too as well as inter CCC/CCD latency tests too
Only managed to get them to 3800 16-16-16-32 on mine. My memory controller is dogshit, it seems. Trained CL14 but shat the bed when tested. Froze the BIOS, in fact - had to clear it :(.
I just ordered up sum of this memory, well the 4000 set, I was glad to run across this video, i was debating buying 2 sets. I'm running the same board X570GL and a 5950X, with a 3090FTW3, dual custom loop. CPU clocks really well with CTR-2.1, 5.0ghz single core, games at 4.8 and runs Prime95 short ftt's @ 4.5ghz
yay, memory overclocking, my favorite. I'd order a set of this kit but I already have the stupid expensive 8gbx4 3600 cl14 from gskill and my old 16gbx2 3200 cl14 overclocks better than my more expensive kit. Getting 1t stable 3600 cl15 apparently performs better than tuned 3600 cl14 stuck at gear down mode 1t or hard 2t
couldnt aggree more on the "flat loadline bad" thing. i was all for flat before but after trying the setting a notch or 2 below flat i saw big differences. that and the ac\dc loadline. i just use gigabyte preset of power savings on a 9900k. also the power of....well power limits. and tjmax. my 9900k is set up at 5ghz all core with 150-170 power limits and tjmax set all the way down to 80c. perfect setup for a daily driver. CB runs at 1.2v (the old style voltage sensor, not even the newer, lower one). avx loads run at 1.25-1.27 ish? (i use auto with offset) and if the cpu gets above 80 or the pl gets crossed for too long then it throttles back to 4.8-4.9 for those long duration loads. at these settings this cpu should last forever but i still get 5ghz gaming\general use performance but long, intensive workloads throttle back just a bit.
You ever have the issue where you get a crash with new timings, but then after clrcmos, going to the last known STABLE (passes memtest) bios preset won't post? Then if I go in and manually enter all the same settings, it works fine. I have almost identical setup with tomahawk and 3900xt, same mem kit.
Chili Cheeto yeah dude, I think it’s just a bug in MSI’s bios. I would up taking a video of all the bios pages after I got a stable OC. Haven’t touched it since
@@yoldash gskill wouldnt go faster than 3533 no matter the voltage, in fact got worse at 14-14-14 over 1.46v.. Took them out, added second set of the vipers, and am now at 14-14-14 3600 1.45, which wouldnt even train with the g.skills. Havent tried pushing further yet..
BurnMMX + Memtest at the same time is pretty darn good at shaking out instabilities. BurnMMX thrashes the CPU memory controller; if it can handle that and still not have memory errors, it'll be fine. Also a good way to test your CPU cooler.
Also idk but wouldn't small fft almost entirely stress the CPU as it can stay in cache? I would think larger would stress memory more. Now that I think, is that why transients are so bad around 192k? The cpu has to stop and wait for memory? Just my psuedo intellectual thoughts for the day
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking i gotta amend my assessment of the aorus z390 pro, i was happy with the board but a bit disappointed with ram clocking but once i gave up on greater than 3600 i really liked it. 3600 15-15-15- was easy as pie to get and at a fairly low 1.38v ddr voltage and low SA and IO and at 1t CR. with a cheap 100 dollar team group 3200 kit of b-die. im pretty sure itll do it with 4 sticks as well. i couldnt really ask for more. i might try for 14 but i know itll take more voltage than i want and its not worth it. but dual rank 32gb at 3600 cl 15 sounds really good to me
I have the patriot 4133 MHz kit with a 3700x what are the lowest settings I can get ? Currently have it at 15-15-15-30 @1.38v 3800mhz fclk 1900, it’s a 2x8 kit on the X570-p by Asus
Not sure if you will respond, but I have a two separate sets of TEAMGROUP XTREEM (old style spreader) XMP 4000 cl18-20 (10 layer A2 brainpower PCB, 2023 production) that refuse to to hold stability @ 3600 regardless of timings. Is my 5800x IMC just terrible, or is it a board issue (X570 UNIFY) on daisy chain DIMMS? I've tried literally everything to run this B-die as 4x8 @ 3600.. Both sets are OCCT stable 12hours+ as individual kits.. 3600 cl14-14-14-34 @1.45v... in 2x8. Works at 3200 CL14 4x8... but I cant push it further... :|
I would really like to know how much the latency helps with games. I would assume your setup with PBO would just be enough to give better 1080p ultra results than 9900KS. But the more important question here is that you have essentially the lowest possible latency, so it would be really interesting to see where the limits go in performance for 3950X. Any popular game would do, Assassin's Creed Odyssey would be the best example I know, but any game or even benchmarks would be nice to see.
From what I've seen, the 9900KS still beats the 3950X in most games even when the latter has optimized RAM. LTT did a video comparing the two and the Intel chip was 5-10% faster in gaming even in GPU bound scenarios
13:45 wait what? I get 30 Gbyte/s with triple channel ddr3 2000Mhz Cl9-9-9-24. Does that mean I messed up? That's not even close to what I'd expect with your formula O.o Or is the Xeon X5675's IMC that limited?
im curious what Aida 64 stats you got once you clocked it especially the Latency. Im at 3733mhz cl 14-15-15-28-42 at 1.52v Trident Royal 3200 cl 14 2x 16gb sticks for 32gb.
My Ryzen 9 3900 can't do 1900 FLCK and it cannot do uclk=memclk at 1866 (I need uclck=memclk/2 to boot at all), but my 4 Dimms (same as in the video) can boot 3733 at 16-15-15-25 TRC 40, TRFC 320, 1T. (Gear Down Mode enabled, that's why 16 and not 15). I can actually boot and run windows at 14-14-14-21-35 but I get a lot of mem errors in (just only) one of 14 open memtest tabs (at 2048 MB each). Booting with one value at 13 does not work :( Most of the secondary & Tertiary timings are on Auto and when I tried to set some of them 1 below the auto adjusted value, it won't boot at all. So I am amazed that my MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max could tighten the timings on Auto for me, nearly to the max. FYI, they are not very close to AHOCs 300-12-4-8-4-4-10-16-12-1 sadly Memory currently runs at 1,48V. I tried 1,45V; 1,5V, it does not make any difference at all in Prime95 or memtest (and different timings of course). I might try 1,45V or lower again to see if I can reduce the heatouput a little bit, since my case is stuffed with SSDs/HDDs and the airflow is ... lacking. VDDG voltages are just as in the video, might fiddle around with them as well. I wonder if I can adjust them via the Ryzen Master tool. Does it override BIOS entries realiably?
Great once again Buildzoid. Mr. Buildzoid, can you do a video on EVGA 2060 KO with the T104-150 die? Removing the power limit and how to get the most out of it. Thank you .
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking yea I see I'm blind prob SMH. But it seems powerstages are cooled just by the backplate, they have no thermal pads between the main cooler.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I was planning on using the Arctic Acellero III. So if power limit was removed. It would help even slight would be nice. And I would risk it for some better performance out of a low end card.
@@hughw. Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of buying a 2060KO? You're spending the money you're "saving" on a more expensive 2060 on that cooler and getting a chip with a lower overall power limit.
Hi BuildZoid, you mention you do NOT have a 5700 xt in relation to setting the SoC Voltage for PCIE 4.0 stuff. What if you had a 5700XT? How would you handle this setup/setting? Thanks.
Hi, i was using same kits as 2x8 3800mhz CL14. They works perfectly till i buy 2 more for using 4x8 like this. But pc didin't boot. I tried to adjust Voltages and Latencys a bit high but didn't boot again. I using them on 3600mhz CL18. Could you help me ?
I am thinking between this one and new Ballistix 3600 (which is cheaper). Leaning towards this one, but not sure it will work properly on MSI Z490 Unify
do you have any AIDA memory benchmakrs? like before and after. I currently run two sticks at 4200mhz c19 and wanted to see if lowering clock speed but improving timings is worth it
Cmos reset with cpu installed is broken. Fix is to remove cmos battery. Recheck thermals in bios. Reinstall battery boot normal. If cmost reset again. Thermal issue reappears. Once thermal verified in bios resolved. Reinstall battery and boot as normal. If cmos reset again thermals broken again. Rinse and repeat. Your welcome.
I have a question: I punched my crucial ballistix 3000 cl15 to 3333 cl14 (1,35V) on a mobo that is only speced for 3200.(yes, I am a bit stupid) It seemed to be stabe first, but crashed later. Now, memtest 86 reports that one of my DIMMs has 65000+ errors, but the other one is completley fine. What do you think is damaged? the stick of ram itself? the channel/slot on my MB? memory controller of the cpu? (r5 2600x) I cant switch the positions of my DIMMs because of the cpu cooler.
@@Taikon_n yes, very much too late. But it seems that one DIMM just commited suicide. anyway, I upgraded a few months ago from that 2600x to a 5500 on the same mobo (gigabyte a320m sh2 v2 ) I was able to OC the shit out of those ballistix to 4266-20-25-20-42-67 at 1,46 V. It runs very stable, 4533 is also achievable, but it might be too hard to get daily-stable. It kinda blows my mind, reading that comment, how careful I was 3 years ago about ram OC. Now I know that the only thing that can die If you screw up is your OS, (unless of course you choose ridiculuos amounts of voltage.
I have the Viper 4 Blackout Series DDR4 32GB 3600MHz (2 x 16gb). I also have the ryzen 5 3600 which i overclocked to 4100 Mhz following your guide. I appreciate the video as all this is so confusing to me. The cpu is stable but i cant work out why my ram refuses to run at the correct speed. The xmp profiles just wont work my pc wont boot when i activate them. Do u know if theres something im overlooking? Also motherboard is the MSI Mag Tomahawk wifi. I have no clue what im doing i just followed every step in your video to get the cpu overclocked but this ram stuff is so confusing and im scared to mess with the settings in case it fucks with the cpu.
I did this the old-fashioned way with Corsair 3600C18 and ended up EXACTLY where DRAM Calc said I would. I don't know how much is down to memory controller, but I got 3600 @ 16-19-16-36-54, 1.39V, Memtest stable past 100%.
I have the 4000mhz kit. Should it be able to do 3600mhz cl14? Can you list off as many timings as you can, somebody, and necessary voltages? I'm using an Asus TUF Gaming x570 pro wifi, with a 3800x. I'm running them at 3600mhz now but at cas 16 :( But I haven't tweaked much.
@@TheOdsystem yes I've run them at 3800mhz but keep it at 3600 for my daily. I tried dram calculator fast settings for 3800 at 1.5v and i think i had to tweak a couple things, but it worked but i don't think it was 100% stable. But i did not get deep into tweaking secondary voltages. I tried auto subtimings with cas 16 (16-16-16-16-36-52 i think... Maybe ...38-56), but i just daily a lazy 3600 timing because overwatch crashed on me and i can't have that. But some more time/skill (and maybe dram silicon lottery) might yield better results. Kind of the same story for 3600 cas 14 (14-14-14-14...), don't think i ever got it 100% stable. Tried dram calc fast settings which i think gives u a 14-15 mix, but for me at least on the asus board, or for these particular sticks, there was always a couple subtimings that dram calc chose that the system didn't like. In that case u can identify them and set them to auto, which is sometimes significantly higher, or manually tweak them. Otherwise those settings were stable. I'm still open to tips and would like to spend more time tweaking for those absolute best settings. But regardless they're good sticks, would recommend. They also have a slightly higher rated speed not for not much more... Don't know if they'd do any better timings wise at 3800mhz. Also for slightly more money u have the team group ram kits that are well regarded.
I had to rma the 4000 kit, then sold it to my cousin and bought the 4400mhz version of the same kit. I run 1900/3800 cl14 now... Followed a buildzoid video using these exact sticks as a general guide.
Im facing loads of instability issues, my orginal ram was Viper ddr4 2x8 3200mhz same make as the ones in this video but I installed a second set same speeds and everything but I face loads of compatibility issues even running on xmp profile this is with the msi b550-A pro and ryzen 5600x any suggestions?
Very useful guide, thank you. Can I use the same guide for my post-struggling setup of; - CPU : Ryzen 9 5900X - RAM : PVS416G440C9K (4x8Gb kit) - Board : MSI MPG X570S Carbon Max Wifi Many thanks:)
@@sniperpronerfmods9811 ouch! @SKYLINE9394 your ram overclocks the same as every other ram. its not worth it cause you have to learn a bit about it and it wont even help performance that much. buildzoid (the guy in the video lol) is just tyring to get better scores on tests. this wont help your gaming much, if any. Sniper is right, just use the xmp profile or just leave it alone.
Can you provide a working overclock for kingston fury 3200mhz 4x16gb? I am using the same godlike mb and 3600x cpu.. I keep getting bsod with axmp, and i don't really know how to use manual overclock..i tried and it won't post. I have a decent aio cooler (ID-cooling zoomflow) with airflow case (lian li lancool 2 mesh)..
I'm new at this and I'm lost. I don't get the benefit of lowering frequency to gain latency. I'm trying to pair 10600k gaming rig with proper ram. Been looking at these sticks based on the reviews and the fact the 10600k runs nice with fast ram. At what speed would you run those to benefit in games? Or does it even matter since I'm planing to game in VR over 1080p?
@Mirsad Redzovic yeh did the research. im building a new system from the ground up, lian li od11xl case, 2x60mm 360 rads, 14 noctua 120mm fans haha 4x8gb 4400 viper ram. i dont have a cpu or gpu yet but im gonna get 5800 or 5900 cpu. if navi gives same or better oc results than the 3080 il go for that
@Mirsad Redzovic i have 2 nvme drives atm il swap them over. also got a new 2tb ss 970 ssd for it, i got a 1000w corsair psu i went with 2 rads not 3 so i can have both rads pulling in, this left the top and rear clear for exhaust fans. imgbox.com/XbRIZyyh imgbox.com/NEk93axs im REALLY happy with the cable management!! almost all cabling is fitted in the pics and its really neat thanks to the depth of the side section ps the phanteks am4 block got the best thermal results (as did the ek xe360mm rads) so i went for them and noctua nfa12 fans
Pricing fluctuates based on demand and location. Where I'm at, 3600 cl16 is like $40/stick more than 4400 cl19. The higher frequency is also "better" to the layperson. I've seen people throw 3600mhz ram in a system and talk about how their system feels faster, and when I look at their specs they didn't even enable xmp so they're running JDEC 2133.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I can't speak to a wide variety of ddr4 sticks, but with my tridentz bdie, I didn't have any issues at -5C to 10C. Depending on the board, voltage, speed and timings I did see issues due to heat at 20C and 28-30C. (DDR4 voltage was at 1.536v @3800 CL14)
Bought this and it won't do cl14 3800mhz, it can't do cl15 either because it can't do 1T timing. It can hower do 16-15-12-13-26-38-290 4000 mhz but my 5800x keeps throwing WHEAs in occt if set fclk to 2000mhz. Even with voltage as high as 1.175. I think there's much less errors if I turn on chipset fan which drops chipset temps from 62 to 48. So what do I do? What speed do I run it on?
ive gotten a set of hyperX 3466 cl16 micron J die downbin. ran out the box with a r5 1600 af on xmp 1 for 3466.....80 bucks for this 2x8 kit! memtest showed 1 error...
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking memtest showing 1 error on cpu side. But aida and Occt never crash. The board supports it on 12nm chips. The board I have. With this exact kit.
You have a very good shot at hitting 4200mhz depending on the kits. If you get two kits, you'll still need to bin them starting low and going up in speed. I had two kits of 3866 a nd they clocked fine but one kept failing training so sent that kit back for a refund. The kits are ridiculous most of the time.
id love to run above 1800mhz, do you have any suggestions to achive this? i have this mem kit rn on a 3600 at 4.5, the mem is running 3600mhz fclck 1800mhz 14-14-14-14-29. i want to run 3733 or 3800 15-14-14-14-30.
a) Its possible to add own timings to that (frankly quite stupid) MSI GameBoost Knob thing? b) What would be the a good 64 Gb Kit latency wise with a 3950 ?
This isn't a great question by itself. Long and short is get high speed and low timings with 1 to 1 mode infinity fabric and set those tertiary timings. Your mileage will vary. Just punching in timings doesn't guarantee stability or performance increase.
@Mirsad Redzovic already bought this 4400 kit, also the rumour is that the new ryzens may oc the inf fabric to 2ghz. that would allow 4ghz ram speed, and yeh il tighten the timings up if i can aswell
you typically always get better results with FEWER DIMMS - the more dimms you have, the harder it is to reach stability - but then the price goes up considerably - Patriot has some of the best performance for dollar - Crucial is and has always been very compatible and their pricing is very fair
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking As in, the performance boost won't be worth extra cost, or the processor/motherboard combo can't utilize the potential of this kit very well? I'm mostly wondering about price/performance balance.
@@Derael Depending on the motherboard and CPU I'd upgrade those and get a cheaper memory kit instead. But if the board and CPU are good and there's nothing else you want to add to the system the kit can make sense.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Is there a good reason to get X570 over good B450 motherboard nowadays? I watched your earlier videos, and I got an impression that X570 isn't really worth it unless going for R9, but maybe the situation has changed now. As for R9, it's obviously great, but it's quite a big price jump over R5 and R7, especially in my country, where you have to pay 30% tax on imported products for price difference over 100€, so the value/money aspect is particularly bad for that one. BTW, thanks for the great vids, even though I'm not doing any overclocking right now, they are still interesting to watch.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking i got this exact kit running 14-14-14-14-29 @3600mhz fclock 1800. i cant seem to boot above 1800mhz, id like to try 1866 so i can run 3733 at 1:1 15-14-14-14-30. any suggestions?
Question.. I'm buying ram ASAP for my 5900x I'm set on the Viper sticks. They come in 4000 and 4400 etc. Is there a way to guarantee i get B die? Are all viper sticks B die?
@@captainlafty4606 ha thanks Just got errr thing and put together today Yup b die Wow so fast and iv done nothing Lol also 2000 fclk Haaa I did not even look at voltage yet Just 2k 4k
I gotta send AIO back 420mm Liquid Freezer It was Obvious used Amazon so not sure their fault Anyways Heat sink obviously been mounted. Residue Worse The pump making awful noises Made it to too 46 3D mark. But Pump fucked or way too much air Can't wait to tune this shxt
@@fepethepenguin8287 funny thing with the 2000 fclk is that my cinebench scores started lowering on due to it, 1900 is fine but had to lower voltages to 1.48 from 1.5 and that too increased score. But got it on 3800 cl 14 (4 dimms) on gdm so I'm happy. Doubt its amazons fault but I would complain to them nevertheless, they gave me a voucher cause the courier dudes gave my stuff to a neighbour, got everything at the end.
@@captainlafty4606 I put it back to 3600 I mean first day kitchen table Frankenstein testing Oh Get this CPU never gets above 48C in any testing iv done And radiator does not even get warm I thought for sure something wrong. But hrs and hrs later. Its 60F in my house . Going to do more testing today. B4 sending the 420mm back. And the case. Its too dang small
Thanks to this video, I got my Msi X570 Unify running these same ram sticks (2x8GB) @ 3800MHz 14-14-14-34, 1T. Have not tried to push further. I concider it a nice upgrade from same CL but 3200MHz. AIDA read was 58499, write 57481 and copy 53040. But i'm running them with a Ryzen 3900X @ a lower clock speed of 4,15GHz. But these sticks were really cheap, so why not? :D
I was looking at this memory kit today, the 4400mhz version is 175usd in amazon while 4000mhz one is 100. So hopefully the 4000mhz kit will be as good as this or at least close to it.
actually this is the 4400mghz version and the 4000 is where they are going to the "so-so= bins. dont expect it to run quite this well. this is their best bin, on a million dollar mo board. but still good ram im sure.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking yeah, I got there... I was just being internet and asking when I thought as opposed to watching till the end first. I have my 3900x at 4.2 on 1.18 (my r20 scores started dropping at 1.17) I started up prime95 and thought I was going to cook it. I didn't have the guts to run it longer than about 10 minutes. I'm watching this the 2nd time now... I'm thinking about trying to lap my cpu and x62... part of me really wants to try liquid metal but it's my first time and this is my daily driver.
@@benderrodriguez6343 I hope you didn't go ahead with the lapping or liquid metal on the 3900x as I've seen people get 0 to 1% difference in thermals. Anyway what ram config did you get and fclk?
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An important takeaway from this video is about using Ryzen master to see what AUTO values actually are and entering them into the BIOS because a reboot may set then differently and your OC could become unstable
I bought two of these kits to run 4 stick in dual rank with a MSI x570 Tomahawk & 5600X. I got them running 14-8-13-11-30 and used all the other timings seen in this video but with lower voltages. They passed 830% coverage in Memtest Pro with no errors. I'm really happy with the results, thanks Buildzoid.
@3800mhz? Impressive. Most impressive!
That's incredible! Mind sharing your voltages? I have the same CPU and MSI B550 ITX. That would help me a lot. Cheers!
I got almost the same config. Would really appreciate if you could confirm if the above mentioned timings are at 3800MHz and at what voltages?
omfg! I am ordering this kit today. Going to get 2 of them for 32gb!
@Manuel G what voltage? My Trident z kit is running 3600 cl 14 @ 1.46v
@Manuel G damn son. Win the lottery much? I mean granted my kit is 3200 cl14 stock so I kinda had to bump a bit, makes more sense dropping frequency from stock kit from this video
@Manuel G no, this kit is rated for cl19 @ 1.45V... My 3200cl14 g.skill 2x 16Gb kit can hit the same timings @ 3800 (actually my timings are a bit better). This is a good kit but not any better than a g.skill 3200cl14, you should get whatever is cheaper.
@@deminybs my new 2x16Gb 3200cl14 could make the same timings @3800 @1.5V as this Patriot 4400, the manufacturing process is just more mature at this end of the DDR4 cycle.
@Manuel G can I ask what board and what settings you tweaked? sorry if it's a hassle, but I really need 32gb and want to get the most I can get out of out of the 3950x I'll be buying on Thursday without breaking the bank too much.
I love this memory; I bought 2 2x8 kits of it for my x570 aorus elite on a 3800x. It's a shame they won't boot at anything over 3600mhz but at cl14 I can't complain
Would GDM help there?
@@captainlafty4606 Maybe. I think he needs better cooling for the dimms, to run 1,5v without errors. GDM on. Is it a rev2 Board? If not memory architecture could be an issue.
@@captainlafty4606gdm?
@@jonsnow2555 gear down mode, it is kinda like between 1T command rate and 2T as it runs half clock for some things and certain timings have to be even numbered like tCL.
You make me want to spend way more than I need to on RAM
Do it. Its not really that much more, in the scheme of things, if you are already going to buy ram any ways
@@fepethepenguin8287 I didn't need it, I had 2x8 GB Viper steel 3733 and upgraded to 2x16 GB FlareX 3200c14 and overclocked it.
@@imadecoy. isn't ur 2x8 vipers the same thing he uses in this video?
From what I can tell. All B die is the same
Id love clarification tho
@@imadecoy. also. Why did you just not grab 2 more 8s?
@@fepethepenguin8287 Viper Steel 3733 and 3866 kits are CJR. I wanted B-Die and I have a daisy chain board so 2 sticks was not only cheaper, but better.
Thanks Buildzoid, saved me a bunch of time here. I think the tRCDRD was the issue for me before. 5 mins of TM5 no issues so far, whereas I had errors within seconds with lower than 16.
Edit: seems fully stable. Anta666 extreme 6 cycles, 1000% HCI memtest. Ryzen 7 5700X & B550 Mortar
Do you use any extra cooling for ram sticks or just case airflow?
@@rain8478 just the case’s airflow seems to be enough. I have 2x 140mm and a 120mm in the front of the case.
3950X in Actually Casual Overclocking mode
As a German I only hear "nein, nein, nein..." 8:50
Amusing :)
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What a mighty word.
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I picked up the 4000 CL19 (b-die) version of this kit 4x8gb on a C6H with a 3800X. Running it at 3800CL16 with fast timings at 1.35v 1:1:1 1.05v soc. Not bad for X370 and 4 sticks. I just wish they had a temperature sensor. I paid £100 per kit off Overclockers.co.uk so £200 for 32gb 4 dimms of b-die, insane value. They replaced my G.Skill Trident Z 3200CL14 kit
Grabbed the same 4x8gb 4000 kit also with a 3900x/B550 before I saw this video on the 4400 kit.... Have you tried any tighter timing recently? Still waiting on mobo to arrive
@@rossomecha Please post timings im struggling to get this posting.
@@TechKanucks Have you managed to get it post at stock or XMP? what is the processor? I haven't touched this in a while it might be take me some time, let me see what I can find. Do you get bios?
@@rossomecha i got 14 14 14 posting and i have the latest bios for my x470, which was a few months ago. Do you have your full timings?
Here I am at 6:00 am watching AHO's second video featuring the CL 19 19 19 39 ViperSteel memories and, after listening being soo bold about them for nearly 90 minutes, I just had to "buy now" a pair; after testing, hopefully, I;ll try to score the second one. Wat to go!!!!
Got 4 sticks of these and they're running at 3800 MHz 14-15-13-21 on an MSI x570 Unify. Wanted to say thanks for the video, it was enormously useful as I started at your OC and then tightened from there following your advice. Dropped Vsoc to 1.025 and dropped Vvddg to compensate as I do have PCIe 4 devices and your comment there was useful too. Cheers.
Hey got the same motherboard as you just ordered 2 kits of this memory is this still running stable and well for you?
@@raceace5793 Yup, running great more than a year later. I used the timings from this video. Here're my notes on those: imgur.com/xtXu5QZ I had to reduce Vsoc to 1.0V because 1.15 was preventing mem OC on my GPU over PCIe 4.0. bz mentions this as a possible side effect in the video, so no surprise there. Good luck and enjoy your memory!
@@gitv1ld hi would you mind rewriting the values I can’t seem to make them out. I’m new to pc and have a solid set up and want to run your settings if your still using them
Just for future reference: The infinity fabric does have a error correction system, which can degrade performance when overused. Usually you can see that with perfomance degradation in Linpack and with Whea 19 warnings in the Event Viewer.
Regarding replacing AIDA, would you consider DRAM CALCULATOR MemTest tab as an option. I believe it is an automated routine of what you already do. And it has memory latency tests too as well as inter CCC/CCD latency tests too
Only managed to get them to 3800 16-16-16-32 on mine. My memory controller is dogshit, it seems.
Trained CL14 but shat the bed when tested. Froze the BIOS, in fact - had to clear it :(.
I just ordered up sum of this memory, well the 4000 set, I was glad to run across this video, i was debating buying 2 sets. I'm running the same board X570GL and a 5950X, with a 3090FTW3, dual custom loop. CPU clocks really well with CTR-2.1, 5.0ghz single core, games at 4.8 and runs Prime95 short ftt's @ 4.5ghz
that heatsink is from a gt 610 isnt it? my pc used to overheat regularly using it
Got the same ram hooked up in a x570 dark hero + 5900x and sure enough your timing settings and voltages worked stable first boot on cl14 3800mhz
Also liked + subbed legeeennd
Got mine at 4000Mhz CL14/14/14/34 with 1.5 volt and it's super stable. I love this memory!
Did you set 2nd and 3rd timings as well? What are your settings
Bruh can you upload your RAM timings & subtimings?
When I get back to my computer I will take a picture of the bios settings
ok thats it im sending mine back
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yay, memory overclocking, my favorite. I'd order a set of this kit but I already have the stupid expensive 8gbx4 3600 cl14 from gskill and my old 16gbx2 3200 cl14 overclocks better than my more expensive kit. Getting 1t stable 3600 cl15 apparently performs better than tuned 3600 cl14 stuck at gear down mode 1t or hard 2t
Yes, 1T is always faster than 1N or 2T, because bursts are faster.
I'm pretty sure a part of cinebench scores going up as you run it multiple times is that the caches get loaded up with data from it.
well yes but it also randomly drops at times
The pcie line speed will drop to 3.0 when the SOC voltage is more then 1.1V
Have you tested the 1900 FCLK still work in 1.1V?
Have you tried the team group xtreem 4133mhz cl18-18-18-38 kits?
couldnt aggree more on the "flat loadline bad" thing. i was all for flat before but after trying the setting a notch or 2 below flat i saw big differences. that and the ac\dc loadline. i just use gigabyte preset of power savings on a 9900k. also the power of....well power limits. and tjmax. my 9900k is set up at 5ghz all core with 150-170 power limits and tjmax set all the way down to 80c. perfect setup for a daily driver. CB runs at 1.2v (the old style voltage sensor, not even the newer, lower one). avx loads run at 1.25-1.27 ish? (i use auto with offset) and if the cpu gets above 80 or the pl gets crossed for too long then it throttles back to 4.8-4.9 for those long duration loads. at these settings this cpu should last forever but i still get 5ghz gaming\general use performance but long, intensive workloads throttle back just a bit.
You ever have the issue where you get a crash with new timings, but then after clrcmos, going to the last known STABLE (passes memtest) bios preset won't post? Then if I go in and manually enter all the same settings, it works fine. I have almost identical setup with tomahawk and 3900xt, same mem kit.
Wish more people would reply to comments that I want answers to.
Chili Cheeto yeah dude, I think it’s just a bug in MSI’s bios. I would up taking a video of all the bios pages after I got a stable OC. Haven’t touched it since
@@Nathan0A This would be a scary bug for most beginners. It's cool you worked around it easy enough.
bought a set of these, wonder if they will match or beat my 4600 g.skills
update: 3533@ 14-14-14 so far.
Any more updates? Vs gskill?
@@yoldash gskill wouldnt go faster than 3533 no matter the voltage, in fact got worse at 14-14-14 over 1.46v.. Took them out, added second set of the vipers, and am now at 14-14-14 3600 1.45, which wouldnt even train with the g.skills. Havent tried pushing further yet..
BurnMMX + Memtest at the same time is pretty darn good at shaking out instabilities. BurnMMX thrashes the CPU memory controller; if it can handle that and still not have memory errors, it'll be fine. Also a good way to test your CPU cooler.
Is it worth running a waterblock on these?
Also does CJR like cold?
Would these do 3600 CL13 or CL12 at a sane voltage? I don't really care about bandwidth.
Are any of the new sticks as good as the one you got to 4174 c12?
Also idk but wouldn't small fft almost entirely stress the CPU as it can stay in cache? I would think larger would stress memory more. Now that I think, is that why transients are so bad around 192k? The cpu has to stop and wait for memory? Just my psuedo intellectual thoughts for the day
How do you set the OC CPU that you have such a nice result in CB 20 over 10,000?
Cache letancy matters more than the speed?
Please do Nanya A-die RAM Overclocking
@Actually Hardcore Overclocking i gotta amend my assessment of the aorus z390 pro, i was happy with the board but a bit disappointed with ram clocking but once i gave up on greater than 3600 i really liked it. 3600 15-15-15- was easy as pie to get and at a fairly low 1.38v ddr voltage and low SA and IO and at 1t CR. with a cheap 100 dollar team group 3200 kit of b-die. im pretty sure itll do it with 4 sticks as well. i couldnt really ask for more. i might try for 14 but i know itll take more voltage than i want and its not worth it. but dual rank 32gb at 3600 cl 15 sounds really good to me
I have the patriot 4133 MHz kit with a 3700x what are the lowest settings I can get ? Currently have it at 15-15-15-30 @1.38v 3800mhz fclk 1900, it’s a 2x8 kit on the X570-p by Asus
Not sure if you will respond, but I have a two separate sets of TEAMGROUP XTREEM (old style spreader) XMP 4000 cl18-20 (10 layer A2 brainpower PCB, 2023 production) that refuse to to hold stability @ 3600 regardless of timings.
Is my 5800x IMC just terrible, or is it a board issue (X570 UNIFY) on daisy chain DIMMS?
I've tried literally everything to run this B-die as 4x8 @ 3600.. Both sets are OCCT stable 12hours+ as individual kits.. 3600 cl14-14-14-34 @1.45v... in 2x8.
Works at 3200 CL14 4x8... but I cant push it further... :|
@buildzoid hey can you do an OC video of the 4000mhz patriot kit on a gigabyte z390 pro
19:28 for settings
I would really like to know how much the latency helps with games. I would assume your setup with PBO would just be enough to give better 1080p ultra results than 9900KS. But the more important question here is that you have essentially the lowest possible latency, so it would be really interesting to see where the limits go in performance for 3950X. Any popular game would do, Assassin's Creed Odyssey would be the best example I know, but any game or even benchmarks would be nice to see.
From what I've seen, the 9900KS still beats the 3950X in most games even when the latter has optimized RAM. LTT did a video comparing the two and the Intel chip was 5-10% faster in gaming even in GPU bound scenarios
13:45 wait what? I get 30 Gbyte/s with triple channel ddr3 2000Mhz Cl9-9-9-24. Does that mean I messed up? That's not even close to what I'd expect with your formula O.o Or is the Xeon X5675's IMC that limited?
im curious what Aida 64 stats you got once you clocked it especially the Latency. Im at 3733mhz
cl 14-15-15-28-42 at 1.52v Trident Royal 3200 cl 14 2x 16gb sticks for 32gb.
Depends AFAIK on your processor speed not just RAM OC,talking about latency run on Aida64.
Don't mind me, just poppin & youtubin
My Ryzen 9 3900 can't do 1900 FLCK and it cannot do uclk=memclk at 1866 (I need uclck=memclk/2 to boot at all), but my 4 Dimms (same as in the video) can boot 3733 at 16-15-15-25 TRC 40, TRFC 320, 1T. (Gear Down Mode enabled, that's why 16 and not 15).
I can actually boot and run windows at 14-14-14-21-35 but I get a lot of mem errors in (just only) one of 14 open memtest tabs (at 2048 MB each).
Booting with one value at 13 does not work :(
Most of the secondary & Tertiary timings are on Auto and when I tried to set some of them 1 below the auto adjusted value, it won't boot at all. So I am amazed that my MSI B450 Gaming Plus Max could tighten the timings on Auto for me, nearly to the max. FYI, they are not very close to AHOCs 300-12-4-8-4-4-10-16-12-1 sadly
Memory currently runs at 1,48V. I tried 1,45V; 1,5V, it does not make any difference at all in Prime95 or memtest (and different timings of course). I might try 1,45V or lower again to see if I can reduce the heatouput a little bit, since my case is stuffed with SSDs/HDDs and the airflow is ... lacking.
VDDG voltages are just as in the video, might fiddle around with them as well. I wonder if I can adjust them via the Ryzen Master tool. Does it override BIOS entries realiably?
Great once again Buildzoid. Mr. Buildzoid, can you do a video on EVGA 2060 KO with the T104-150 die? Removing the power limit and how to get the most out of it. Thank you .
2060 KO has a terrible pcb - 3 phases for core + like 10mm thermal pads i wouldn't risk it.
@@kremeszdaboi1862 it's a 4 phase Vcore and the thermal pad is on the VRAM so it doesn't matter for the GPU core power limit.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking yea I see I'm blind prob SMH. But it seems powerstages are cooled just by the backplate, they have no thermal pads between the main cooler.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I was planning on using the Arctic Acellero III. So if power limit was removed. It would help even slight would be nice. And I would risk it for some better performance out of a low end card.
@@hughw. Doesn't that kinda defeat the purpose of buying a 2060KO? You're spending the money you're "saving" on a more expensive 2060 on that cooler and getting a chip with a lower overall power limit.
Hi BuildZoid, you mention you do NOT have a 5700 xt in relation to setting the SoC Voltage for PCIE 4.0 stuff. What if you had a 5700XT? How would you handle this setup/setting? Thanks.
Hi, i was using same kits as 2x8 3800mhz CL14. They works perfectly till i buy 2 more for using 4x8 like this. But pc didin't boot. I tried to adjust Voltages and Latencys a bit high but didn't boot again. I using them on 3600mhz CL18. Could you help me ?
I am thinking between this one and new Ballistix 3600 (which is cheaper). Leaning towards this one, but not sure it will work properly on MSI Z490 Unify
I bought this ram 100euro I works perfect awith your timings also Gmd off 1T...
there is no problem using 2 kits of 2x8gb? at this moment i dont have money for 2x16gb kit
Would it be possible to run 4 of these with a 5800x?
Yes but at 4400MHz it will run at CR 2 and that's bad for Ryzen. Stay at 3733 or slower to stay at CR 1. 3600MHz is your best bet.
do you have any AIDA memory benchmakrs? like before and after. I currently run two sticks at 4200mhz c19 and wanted to see if lowering clock speed but improving timings is worth it
Cmos reset with cpu installed is broken. Fix is to remove cmos battery. Recheck thermals in bios. Reinstall battery boot normal. If cmost reset again. Thermal issue reappears. Once thermal verified in bios resolved. Reinstall battery and boot as normal. If cmos reset again thermals broken again. Rinse and repeat.
Your welcome.
I have a question:
I punched my crucial ballistix 3000 cl15 to 3333 cl14 (1,35V) on a mobo that is only speced for 3200.(yes, I am a bit stupid) It seemed to be stabe first, but crashed later. Now, memtest 86 reports that one of my DIMMs has 65000+ errors, but the other one is completley fine.
What do you think is damaged?
the stick of ram itself?
the channel/slot on my MB?
memory controller of the cpu? (r5 2600x)
I cant switch the positions of my DIMMs because of the cpu cooler.
to late but bump up that voltage
@@Taikon_n yes, very much too late.
But it seems that one DIMM just commited suicide.
anyway, I upgraded a few months ago from that 2600x to a 5500 on the same mobo (gigabyte a320m sh2 v2 ) I was able to OC the shit out of those ballistix to 4266-20-25-20-42-67 at 1,46 V. It runs very stable, 4533 is also achievable, but it might be too hard to get daily-stable.
It kinda blows my mind, reading that comment, how careful I was 3 years ago about ram OC. Now I know that the only thing that can die If you screw up is your OS, (unless of course you choose ridiculuos amounts of voltage.
Mine do 3800 14-15-14-26 on 1.5v memtest table for 10 hours on a B450 Mortar Max and a Ryzen 5 3600. Return them or keep them ?
Is 3800 actually better than 3600 with Ryzen? I thought 3600 was supposed to be the sweet spot?
3800 cl 14, is It possibile with 4 sticks on X570 ??
I have the Viper 4 Blackout Series DDR4 32GB 3600MHz (2 x 16gb). I also have the ryzen 5 3600 which i overclocked to 4100 Mhz following your guide. I appreciate the video as all this is so confusing to me. The cpu is stable but i cant work out why my ram refuses to run at the correct speed. The xmp profiles just wont work my pc wont boot when i activate them. Do u know if theres something im overlooking? Also motherboard is the MSI Mag Tomahawk wifi. I have no clue what im doing i just followed every step in your video to get the cpu overclocked but this ram stuff is so confusing and im scared to mess with the settings in case it fucks with the cpu.
How many people use their stock CPU fan as a VRM and/or men cooling. Because as soon as I got my AIO I did the same thing lol.
november 5th?
Have Asus tuf x570-plus(non-wifi), r9 5900x. just grabbed 4x8gb of these sticks. Any tips?
Please make a video with Micron E-die overclock to it's maximum on any Zen2 CPU.
Dram calculator is a good start. Tho yeah we all know BZ got the juice.
I did this the old-fashioned way with Corsair 3600C18 and ended up EXACTLY where DRAM Calc said I would.
I don't know how much is down to memory controller, but I got 3600 @ 16-19-16-36-54, 1.39V, Memtest stable past 100%.
Im curious if B450 Tomahawk would work with 3733 MHz cl14 memory ... btw, greatvid as always bud :)
It will work .
One way to find out...
@@guywithjeep dont forget to update bios then go for tuning.
@@dardan1a915 of course
Did you buy the sticks and test them on your Tomahawk?
I have the 4000mhz kit. Should it be able to do 3600mhz cl14? Can you list off as many timings as you can, somebody, and necessary voltages? I'm using an Asus TUF Gaming x570 pro wifi, with a 3800x. I'm running them at 3600mhz now but at cas 16 :( But I haven't tweaked much.
I'm interested in these sticks. Have you tested them at 3800Mhz?
@@TheOdsystem yes I've run them at 3800mhz but keep it at 3600 for my daily.
I tried dram calculator fast settings for 3800 at 1.5v and i think i had to tweak a couple things, but it worked but i don't think it was 100% stable. But i did not get deep into tweaking secondary voltages. I tried auto subtimings with cas 16 (16-16-16-16-36-52 i think... Maybe ...38-56), but i just daily a lazy 3600 timing because overwatch crashed on me and i can't have that. But some more time/skill (and maybe dram silicon lottery) might yield better results.
Kind of the same story for 3600 cas 14 (14-14-14-14...), don't think i ever got it 100% stable. Tried dram calc fast settings which i think gives u a 14-15 mix, but for me at least on the asus board, or for these particular sticks, there was always a couple subtimings that dram calc chose that the system didn't like. In that case u can identify them and set them to auto, which is sometimes significantly higher, or manually tweak them. Otherwise those settings were stable.
I'm still open to tips and would like to spend more time tweaking for those absolute best settings. But regardless they're good sticks, would recommend. They also have a slightly higher rated speed not for not much more... Don't know if they'd do any better timings wise at 3800mhz. Also for slightly more money u have the team group ram kits that are well regarded.
I had to rma the 4000 kit, then sold it to my cousin and bought the 4400mhz version of the same kit. I run 1900/3800 cl14 now... Followed a buildzoid video using these exact sticks as a general guide.
@@Artcore103 And are you happy with the new kit? Any crashes?
@@andreiclawhammer yes I'm very happy with the new kit, it's much better... Much faster/tighter timings and zero crashes since i dialed it in.
Im facing loads of instability issues, my orginal ram was Viper ddr4 2x8 3200mhz same make as the ones in this video but I installed a second set same speeds and everything but I face loads of compatibility issues even running on xmp profile this is with the msi b550-A pro and ryzen 5600x any suggestions?
Very useful guide, thank you.
Can I use the same guide for my post-struggling setup of;
- CPU : Ryzen 9 5900X
- RAM : PVS416G440C9K (4x8Gb kit)
- Board : MSI MPG X570S Carbon Max Wifi
Many thanks:)
Would you use this board with a 5950x or would you use the crosshair viii dark hero?
Either or would be fine
can you do a team group NIGHT HAWK RGB DDR4 i cant find how to overclock it im on intel maybe you know some source how to oc it?
Ditch the RGB garbage
There am xmp button for people like you
@@sniperpronerfmods9811 ouch!
@SKYLINE9394 your ram overclocks the same as every other ram. its not worth it cause you have to learn a bit about it and it wont even help performance that much. buildzoid (the guy in the video lol) is just tyring to get better scores on tests. this wont help your gaming much, if any. Sniper is right, just use the xmp profile or just leave it alone.
Hi, you considere CCX Overclocking in this chips?
He is using per CCX, pay attention to the first 10 minutes of the video where he details it.
Link to that ram fan pls
AMD Stock cooler 😁
@@valentin3186 ahaha tnx
Can you provide a working overclock for kingston fury 3200mhz 4x16gb? I am using the same godlike mb and 3600x cpu.. I keep getting bsod with axmp, and i don't really know how to use manual overclock..i tried and it won't post. I have a decent aio cooler (ID-cooling zoomflow) with airflow case (lian li lancool 2 mesh)..
I'm new at this and I'm lost. I don't get the benefit of lowering frequency to gain latency. I'm trying to pair 10600k gaming rig with proper ram. Been looking at these sticks based on the reviews and the fact the 10600k runs nice with fast ram. At what speed would you run those to benefit in games? Or does it even matter since I'm planing to game in VR over 1080p?
Ryzen is really sensitive to latency as well as speed. It you can rn cl8 2400 that would beat something like 3800 cl14 on ryzen CPUs.
whats the best x570 mobo for overclocking? (not silly price 1 though)
@Mirsad Redzovic that's what I bought last week lol
@Mirsad Redzovic yeh did the research.
im building a new system from the ground up, lian li od11xl case, 2x60mm 360 rads, 14 noctua 120mm fans haha 4x8gb 4400 viper ram. i dont have a cpu or gpu yet but im gonna get 5800 or 5900 cpu. if navi gives same or better oc results than the 3080 il go for that
@Mirsad Redzovic
i have 2 nvme drives atm il swap them over. also got a new 2tb ss 970 ssd for it,
i got a 1000w corsair psu
i went with 2 rads not 3 so i can have both rads pulling in, this left the top and rear clear for exhaust fans.
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im REALLY happy with the cable management!! almost all cabling is fitted in the pics and its really neat thanks to the depth of the side section
ps the phanteks am4 block got the best thermal results (as did the ek xe360mm rads) so i went for them and noctua nfa12 fans
Another awesome video. I could only get my 3950x to 3733mhz cl14. Can you do some ccx individual ratio overclocking please?
What jour settinh i have 3950x and b550 tomahawk it's not bootable
So one pair of these sticks (4400 vipers) are dual rank not single?
Yes, dual channel, single rank
Corsair 4266 c19 vs 3600 c16. Based on ur formula 4266/19
Pricing fluctuates based on demand and location. Where I'm at, 3600 cl16 is like $40/stick more than 4400 cl19.
The higher frequency is also "better" to the layperson. I've seen people throw 3600mhz ram in a system and talk about how their system feels faster, and when I look at their specs they didn't even enable xmp so they're running JDEC 2133.
@@Hotrob_J LOL. Thanks !
Keep calm and raise voltage
Is there any benefit of sub zero cooling ram with a chiller?
A lot of B-die gets extremely upset if gets too cold. and for a lot sticks too cold is anything bellow 20C.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking I can't speak to a wide variety of ddr4 sticks, but with my tridentz bdie, I didn't have any issues at -5C to 10C. Depending on the board, voltage, speed and timings I did see issues due to heat at 20C and 28-30C. (DDR4 voltage was at 1.536v @3800 CL14)
You should see the massive fan I have blowing on the entire motherboard. ROFL!
Bought this and it won't do cl14 3800mhz, it can't do cl15 either because it can't do 1T timing. It can hower do 16-15-12-13-26-38-290 4000 mhz but my 5800x keeps throwing WHEAs in occt if set fclk to 2000mhz. Even with voltage as high as 1.175. I think there's much less errors if I turn on chipset fan which drops chipset temps from 62 to 48. So what do I do? What speed do I run it on?
never mind it can do 3800mhz 14-8-15-13-27, had to raise VDIMM to 1.55v
ive gotten a set of hyperX 3466 cl16 micron J die downbin. ran out the box with a r5 1600 af on xmp 1 for 3466.....80 bucks for this 2x8 kit! memtest showed 1 error...
your 1600's IMC probably can't do 3466. I doubt the kit is faulty
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking it's running stable all day everyday.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking memtest showing 1 error on cpu side. But aida and Occt never crash. The board supports it on 12nm chips. The board I have. With this exact kit.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking is me having that 1 error a bad thing?? please elaborate.
So wait this RAM will work and clock to 3600 cl14 with 2 sets purchased seperately? (two 16gb kits for 4x8 32gb setup?)
You have a very good shot at hitting 4200mhz depending on the kits. If you get two kits, you'll still need to bin them starting low and going up in speed. I had two kits of 3866 a nd they clocked fine but one kept failing training so sent that kit back for a refund. The kits are ridiculous most of the time.
I have an r5 3600 that runs 1900mhz. This memory would rock if I could get the same timings
id love to run above 1800mhz, do you have any suggestions to achive this? i have this mem kit rn on a 3600 at 4.5, the mem is running 3600mhz fclck 1800mhz 14-14-14-14-29. i want to run 3733 or 3800 15-14-14-14-30.
a) Its possible to add own timings to that (frankly quite stupid) MSI GameBoost Knob thing?
b) What would be the a good 64 Gb Kit latency wise with a 3950 ?
just pretend the gameboost knob doesn't exist. I've not tested any 64GB kits so I have no idea.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking fair enough. thank you for the answer!
Do I need a fan if I just straight up using these with Intel on 4400 XMP?
whats the sweetspot between mhz and timings for games?
This isn't a great question by itself. Long and short is get high speed and low timings with 1 to 1 mode infinity fabric and set those tertiary timings. Your mileage will vary. Just punching in timings doesn't guarantee stability or performance increase.
@Mirsad Redzovic already bought this 4400 kit, also the rumour is that the new ryzens may oc the inf fabric to 2ghz. that would allow 4ghz ram speed, and yeh il tighten the timings up if i can aswell
Is it better to buy 2x16 kits if I want 32GB RAM?
you typically always get better results with FEWER DIMMS - the more dimms you have, the harder it is to reach stability - but then the price goes up considerably - Patriot has some of the best performance for dollar - Crucial is and has always been very compatible and their pricing is very fair
Is this memory set a good fit for a more budget build with R5 or R7 processor and B450 motherboard?
Or is it just an overkill?
I'd say it's kinda overkill for that.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking As in, the performance boost won't be worth extra cost, or the processor/motherboard combo can't utilize the potential of this kit very well?
I'm mostly wondering about price/performance balance.
@@Derael Depending on the motherboard and CPU I'd upgrade those and get a cheaper memory kit instead. But if the board and CPU are good and there's nothing else you want to add to the system the kit can make sense.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking Is there a good reason to get X570 over good B450 motherboard nowadays? I watched your earlier videos, and I got an impression that X570 isn't really worth it unless going for R9, but maybe the situation has changed now.
As for R9, it's obviously great, but it's quite a big price jump over R5 and R7, especially in my country, where you have to pay 30% tax on imported products for price difference over 100€, so the value/money aspect is particularly bad for that one.
BTW, thanks for the great vids, even though I'm not doing any overclocking right now, they are still interesting to watch.
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking i got this exact kit running 14-14-14-14-29 @3600mhz fclock 1800. i cant seem to boot above 1800mhz, id like to try 1866 so i can run 3733 at 1:1 15-14-14-14-30. any suggestions?
Can this kit be "over"/underclocked to something like 3200Mhz CL14 to run with a 2700X ?
yes
Could you link the memtest app used in this video? Thanks.
Or you could just type 'memtest' into your search engine of choice... I'm betting it's the first result.
@@LadyEmilyNyx Oh right!! Altavista it.
(for real, just couldn't find the same looking app as one he is using).
It's HCI memtest
@@xxgg You forgot to ask jeeves is why you couldn't find it!
Question.. I'm buying ram ASAP for my 5900x I'm set on the Viper sticks. They come in 4000 and 4400 etc. Is there a way to guarantee i get B die? Are all viper sticks B die?
Those 2 should be bdie
@@captainlafty4606 ha thanks
Just got errr thing and put together today
Yup b die
Wow so fast and iv done nothing
Lol also 2000 fclk
Haaa I did not even look at voltage yet
Just 2k 4k
I gotta send AIO back
420mm Liquid Freezer
It was Obvious used
Amazon so not sure their fault
Anyways
Heat sink obviously been mounted. Residue
Worse
The pump making awful noises
Made it to too 46 3D mark.
But
Pump fucked or way too much air
Can't wait to tune this shxt
@@fepethepenguin8287 funny thing with the 2000 fclk is that my cinebench scores started lowering on due to it, 1900 is fine but had to lower voltages to 1.48 from 1.5 and that too increased score.
But got it on 3800 cl 14 (4 dimms) on gdm so I'm happy.
Doubt its amazons fault but I would complain to them nevertheless, they gave me a voucher cause the courier dudes gave my stuff to a neighbour, got everything at the end.
@@captainlafty4606 I put it back to 3600
I mean first day kitchen table Frankenstein testing
Oh
Get this
CPU never gets above 48C in any testing iv done
And radiator does not even get warm
I thought for sure something wrong.
But hrs and hrs later.
Its 60F in my house .
Going to do more testing today.
B4 sending the 420mm back.
And the case.
Its too dang small
Thanks to this video, I got my Msi X570 Unify running these same ram sticks (2x8GB) @ 3800MHz 14-14-14-34, 1T. Have not tried to push further. I concider it a nice upgrade from same CL but 3200MHz. AIDA read was 58499, write 57481 and copy 53040. But i'm running them with a Ryzen 3900X @ a lower clock speed of 4,15GHz. But these sticks were really cheap, so why not? :D
Could you send your values. I’m new to pc and don’t really know anything
x570 aorus pro wifi secondary dimms dont go over 3200 for me :((
timings good though?
Oof, I paid twice as much for the g.skill 3800c14 kit...
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I was looking at this memory kit today, the 4400mhz version is 175usd in amazon while 4000mhz one is 100.
So hopefully the 4000mhz kit will be as good as this or at least close to it.
actually this is the 4400mghz version and the 4000 is where they are going to the "so-so= bins. dont expect it to run quite this well. this is their best bin, on a million dollar mo board. but still good ram im sure.
@@bobhumplick4213 I think you could get cl 15 or 16 with 4000 ones easily with 3600mhz and thats all I need.
what type of clocks and CPU temps did you get on prime95?
that's in the video
@@ActuallyHardcoreOverclocking yeah, I got there... I was just being internet and asking when I thought as opposed to watching till the end first.
I have my 3900x at 4.2 on 1.18 (my r20 scores started dropping at 1.17) I started up prime95 and thought I was going to cook it. I didn't have the guts to run it longer than about 10 minutes. I'm watching this the 2nd time now... I'm thinking about trying to lap my cpu and x62... part of me really wants to try liquid metal but it's my first time and this is my daily driver.
@@benderrodriguez6343 I hope you didn't go ahead with the lapping or liquid metal on the 3900x as I've seen people get 0 to 1% difference in thermals. Anyway what ram config did you get and fclk?
I feel like Buildzoid should be on Twitter, who agrees?
Nobody should be on Twitter. It's making people Twits.
Test benches are great, unless you have a cat.
Need more Power Scotty.
Damn so close