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  • Опубликовано: 5 июн 2024
  • Gavin Verhay has announced the unprecedented: the prebanning of Cranial Ram in the pauper format!
    let's discuss it all from the video, my thoughts and everything in between!
    #mtg #magicthegathering #banned #crazy #wow _________________________________________________________________________ Other Links:
    Gavin Verhay's Cranial Ram Is Banned Tweet: x.com/GavinVerhey/status/1798...
    Wizards of the Coast Cranial Ram PreBan Announcement Article: magic.wizards.com/en/news/ann...
    Good Morning Magic: Cranial Ram Is Banned (RUclips): • Modern Horizons 3 Bann...
    March 13, 2024 Banned & Restricted Announcement: magic.wizards.com/en/news/ann...
    Explanation of Pauper Bans for May 13, 2024: magic.wizards.com/en/news/ann... _________________________________________________________________________
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  • @LordUgin9356
    @LordUgin9356 Месяц назад +49

    Bro said FINALLY BANNED, it’s not even out yet XD

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 Месяц назад +27

    Finally banned? It wasnt even in the format

  • @byronsmothers8064
    @byronsmothers8064 Месяц назад +12

    Where I see players coming from about glitters: plating doesn't buff toughness, some colors rely on damage removal, glitters is stronger for those match-ups, but plating is just better overall.

    • @Machiroable
      @Machiroable Месяц назад +1

      Yeah... bolt is pretty significant.

    • @dinonicle97
      @dinonicle97 Месяц назад +2

      Many red players running around, truly

    • @matthewmchugh6662
      @matthewmchugh6662 Месяц назад +2

      Glitters is still better. You can't run cranial ram or plating in bogles

    • @byronsmothers8064
      @byronsmothers8064 Месяц назад

      @@matthewmchugh6662 ngl, I'd be amused to see a golgari/dimir bogle deck, but I'll confess that pauper isn't my format (commander scrub)

    • @devan9197
      @devan9197 Месяц назад

      ​@@matthewmchugh6662yeah but you can't run glitters in grixis affinity which doesn't need to get better

  • @STEMpunk28
    @STEMpunk28 Месяц назад +6

    Bro, A guy in my local community baught 4 in foil YESTERDAY.

    • @7218234
      @7218234 Месяц назад +3

      oh no
      how will he ever recover (financially)

  • @Dimarxia
    @Dimarxia Месяц назад +5

    Just imagine a Sneaky Snacker with something like Deadly Dispute.

  • @real_drainer
    @real_drainer Месяц назад +21

    15:08 i disagree, one of the best parts about pauper is the fact that cards arent designed around it, if pauper had a massive playerbase then cards would be designed for it and it would mess up limited

  • @gbctx6982
    @gbctx6982 Месяц назад +7

    Pauper should have more aggro decks. The format is basically mid range and control, the only exception being mono red can not be healthy for a format. Where are the Elves? Where are the Mono Green Stompy?

    • @malte54
      @malte54 Месяц назад +1

      Aggro decks died with all the mass removal in red/black that is available now.
      There's no way to fix this, because they printed to many of those as common.

    • @gbctx6982
      @gbctx6982 Месяц назад

      @@malte54 Printing more 3 toughness creatures would help a lot. To be fair, the new green and white dog that released in MH3 lighted a spark of hope in me.

    • @malte54
      @malte54 Месяц назад

      @@gbctx6982
      True, but as long as those 3 toughness creatures aren't 1,2 mana value, it's probably still better to go for a midrange strategy with 3+ mana spells.

    • @dinonicle97
      @dinonicle97 Месяц назад

      Can't agree on that when around here quite about everyone plays red in some capacity. Mono red, Rakdos Madness, Boros Synthesizer, Ponza, .... red is set up really well in pauper and is by no means bad just because swiftspear got banned and dragon breath exists (which is also red). Pretty sure this is a meta thing around your area.

    • @malte54
      @malte54 Месяц назад

      @@dinonicle97
      Ponza and Boris Synth aren't aggro at all.
      Bouncing Inspectors and Synthesizers all day long is the opposite of aggro. Destroying your opponents lands does not really sound aggro either.

  • @xaropevic7918
    @xaropevic7918 Месяц назад +2

    They said a lot of times that banning either cycle of artifact lands would mean that affinity was still surprisingly strong so please ban the untapped ones over the tapped ones, as an jeskai ephemerate player, I want to keep doing the cleansing wildfire ramp combo, don't make us pay the price of the crimes from affinity

  • @jasonkorf7700
    @jasonkorf7700 Месяц назад +3

    Currently, I don't think Affinity or Mono Red are egregious in play rate or winning percentage, but are polarizing because people don't like playing against those types of decks. As Gavin brought up multiple times in this video and the All that Glitters video.
    So it's frustrating that they targeting top tier Aggro decks as unfun to help justify the bannings of All the Glitters and Cranial Ram, and bring up the Artifact lands as a possible ban target. Eventhough the win rates and play rates weren't really out line compared to other formats or compared to other metas in Pauper's history.
    Aggro decks have always been polarizing to players, especially Mono Red. Just look at Standard, even when Mono Red was bad, people complained about it. Hence why we are seeing a lot of Midrange soup formats.
    However, I do realize Pauper is community driven format and I appreciate the transparency from the Pauper Format Panel.

    • @dashkataey1740
      @dashkataey1740 Месяц назад +1

      I think the problem with super aggressive decks in pauper is that there aren't as many good answers to them as there are in other formats. Dying to removal doesn't mean much if the opponent can just alpha strike you from out of nowhere because you tapped out to play something, meaning you're constantly behind in tempo. Other formats have ways to battle that with free spells or cheaper interaction that keeps those kind of cards in check. Cranial ram would mean you have to answer the ram otherwise you have to deal with every single creature the opponent plays. Both All that Glitters and Ram are cards that snowball out of hand way too quickly for a format that doesn't have a ton of diverse answers.

  • @Machiroable
    @Machiroable Месяц назад +8

    4:39 Your missing the point on hydroblast and blue elemental blast. They are pieces of both removal and interaction against red decks in the side deck, Cranial ram being red DOES MATTER ALOT in this case.

  • @big_b_wolf1236
    @big_b_wolf1236 Месяц назад

    I think the decision to ban ram is sound too; I personally don’t see any issue w the artifact lands, and for the love of god leave my mono red alone! It’s one of the reasons I moved to this format!
    I am very interesting in basking broodscale and evolution witness, though, and wonder what kind of deck techs will come with them. I’d love to see Turbo Fog, One Land Spy, but most importantly, Golgari Dredge!

  • @2uxf3rgreymon52
    @2uxf3rgreymon52 Месяц назад

    Sneaky Snacker can be really good even in decks like Madness even without brain-storm. You have Demand Answer and faithless looting, deadline disputes, bolos tokens and s rap mutts to discard it and draw 3 cards (on your turn). It’s a pretty soldi card!!

  • @The_Abhy
    @The_Abhy Месяц назад

    Sneaky snacker is card I build around bitterblossom and psycho frog. I will try play this deck in modern, but I really dislike an art on this card so I wont play it in pauper.😢

  • @shotgunmacgaming2391
    @shotgunmacgaming2391 Месяц назад

    Sneaky snacker in UB Terror👀

  • @riccardoodraccir9751
    @riccardoodraccir9751 Месяц назад +1

    I'm ok with the ban decision, I think they made their point quite clear and I respect that, it makes sense, moreover I wouldn't have liked that card, even if I am an affinity player. Given that, if the really gonna ban artifact land, i'm gonna leave the game. There are too many answers for artifacts (instant artifact ban or even split second now?), they are balanced. About the mouse, well it is strong but it seems to me like everything else when c
    Ame out and everyone was yelling about banning first the initiative, then the monarchy, then the terror, then the mystic and so on.. I am quite sure they will find a tune for the new familiar

  • @dashkataey1740
    @dashkataey1740 Месяц назад

    Don't apologize for wearing a tank top. Was a nice change to see. You should do this for every ban announcement from now on. ;)

  • @Netro1992
    @Netro1992 Месяц назад

    Not gonna lie... I bought rams to play in pauper as I wanted to keep my streak of playing every broken version of affinity, but alas, these guys were unto us. Time to see if this works in modern.

  • @WitherFang
    @WitherFang Месяц назад +1

    Aww! :(
    Well, it's probably for the greater good honestly.
    Oh, and Sneaky Snacker is a card that's having a lot of potential!!! Great design.

    • @peggle09
      @peggle09 Месяц назад

      The Greater Good always takes away from peoples Freedom.

    • @WitherFang
      @WitherFang Месяц назад

      @@peggle09 And that's why I like the greater good... until it comes for me. 😂

  • @paladin276
    @paladin276 Месяц назад

    I think if it didn't have Living weapon it wouldn't be NEARLY as bad. In colors that can give haste so easy at that.

  • @AleMaciel01
    @AleMaciel01 Месяц назад +1

    if you have a problem with the untapped artifact lands getting banned, just get good, there will be another decks to play, they are a part of the "identity of the format" whatever that means, as much as the next card because it is a constantly changing format and that is good because it is boring if it's the same all the time. Plus, as Gavin said, clearly those lands create some amount of trouble just because of how many cards they had to ban over the years because of those lands(even before the bridges).

    • @malte54
      @malte54 Месяц назад

      I mean, there weren't too many cards being banned before there were bridges. It's just plating really.

  • @peggle09
    @peggle09 Месяц назад +2

    lol, Finally banned. It never even got to be played. They should have let it be played for a bit and see how the meta goes. I know there are some big money pauper tournaments coming up very soon so this probably was a big reason for them to preban it.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Месяц назад +1

      Kind of like how WotC let Lurrus destroy Vintage?

    • @peggle09
      @peggle09 Месяц назад +1

      @@williamdrum9899 At least Lurrus got to be played. Vintage is supposed to be about playing everything together. Players always wambulance when the deck they had for years is no longer the best. Let it play for a bit and see what happens.

  • @Governorrr
    @Governorrr Месяц назад

    They really need to not plan important events after a major set release. Like I get why that do it to promote new cards but well a meta game is shaken up is the WORST to show off any format especially an under represented one like pauper

  • @benwierchowski3496
    @benwierchowski3496 Месяц назад +1

    the pauper panel should put one month aside where they ban all the artifact lands and legalize all the artifact payoffs just to see what happens!!

  • @bqing87
    @bqing87 Месяц назад +1

    They should of just let it rock and warp the format. This was an extremely poor decision on their part. Pre-Banning cards is insane. They should of just printed the card at uncommon.

  • @Treeeboi
    @Treeeboi Месяц назад +2

    you were right all along lol

  • @MrWader76
    @MrWader76 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks for hyping me back into 60 card formats. Sultai mill is my shit lately.

  • @DevTheo1
    @DevTheo1 Месяц назад +1

    Fwiw, if they ban bolt I'm out..

  • @Zzod0000
    @Zzod0000 Месяц назад

    wow artifact lands got another card banned super cool

  • @rocknut144
    @rocknut144 Месяц назад

    Why not make it uncommon?

  • @luckylooch9696
    @luckylooch9696 Месяц назад +1

    Has anyone seen Hogaak? That card is busted and needs to be banned ASAP!
    :^)

  • @DylanHunter64
    @DylanHunter64 Месяц назад +5

    Pauper being "not as big and cared about" is kind of funny to me. While not as big, Pauper is the only 60 card format WotC actually gives a crap about

    • @TotalElipse
      @TotalElipse Месяц назад +3

      It's the opposite, they care so little that they let Gavin, and by extension the PFP he created, do whatever they want. It might as well be his pet format for all they care.

    • @DylanHunter64
      @DylanHunter64 Месяц назад +6

      ​@@TotalElipseThe fact the panel exists (with an employee) ensures that it will receive a level of care and attention that Modern and Legacy players can only dream of.

  • @Governorrr
    @Governorrr Месяц назад +3

    Imo I will always hate pre-ban. WotC knew what they were doing this card. They really wanted to reset the meta like they for modern. But the banning of All that Glitters threw that off. Thank you to the pauper community for sounding off.

    • @barbedwire9975
      @barbedwire9975 Месяц назад +1

      Whilst I’m not for pre-bans always cranial plating in no way was made ‘for pauper’. The cards in sets are not made for every format and predominantly the commons and uncommons are made for balancing the draft and limited environment.

    • @BoltTheEmolga
      @BoltTheEmolga 14 дней назад

      There is literally no such thing as “made for Pauper”

  • @joned1000
    @joned1000 Месяц назад +6

    41seconds no views? Bros washed

    • @manbearpig6025
      @manbearpig6025 Месяц назад +2

      2 mins and only 6 views? This ain’t getting any better

    • @jamesoakley9333
      @jamesoakley9333 Месяц назад

      20 mins in and only 108 views.... it's like people have jobs and stuff.😂😂

  • @caseycornett5182
    @caseycornett5182 Месяц назад +2

    Ram had to go no doubt. TBH I will probably bounce out of the format if they start banning lands. The bridges add much more to the format than they take away by potentially overpowering affinity decks. If affinity is the problem then ban myr enforcer. The bridges are used heavily in so many decks in the format in perfectly fair ways and are the only reason why jeskai ephemorate is even a deck.
    Sneaky snacker is a really cool card that I have been messing around with. So far I have struggled to build anything with it that wasn't just shoehorning it in an existing deck. I haven't found a super unfair way to use it outside of just brainstorm. Refurbished familiar is going to be good in affinity, but it is going to be insane with the glinthawk/kor skyfisher shell. WB blades is going to be sick now.

  • @DylanHunter64
    @DylanHunter64 Месяц назад +18

    The people that are saying it should have been given a chance and that this prebanning is bad are so detached from reality, it's laughable

    • @D00ML0RD1
      @D00ML0RD1 Месяц назад

      There the same ppl that thin thorical a fun card.

    • @williamdrum9899
      @williamdrum9899 Месяц назад

      I bet those people hated Lurrus too.

    • @j453
      @j453 Месяц назад

      What makes it so powerful it needs banned? I genuinely don't know. Haven't played since original Kamigawa and I am just getting back into it.

    • @DylanHunter64
      @DylanHunter64 Месяц назад

      @@j453 Gavin does a pretty good job of explaining why

    • @malte54
      @malte54 Месяц назад +2

      It's not about being "detached from reality". It's about not knowing if the meta could handly it.
      It's just stupid to ban cards, if no one even got a chance to play them. What's the problem (especially in pauper) with giving it a couple of weeks?
      Just because of Paupergeddon? That's a week point, since you - again - wouldn't know how the meta evolves.