@@coreyriegle1328 I LOVE those! They are so randomly expensive though... I'm actually working on next week's video right now which isa feature match with those decks, but from 1997, played by none other than Frank Karsten! :D
@@CardmarketMagic they are actually why I started using sleeves. That way I could play them against my brother. I've had these for about 20 years now. I've got a few cards from that era and from 01, but nothing after that. Im stoked about the videos. I really like what you're doing with the channel. It's becoming everything I hoped it would, YOU GUYS are who we look to these days. I love this game, my brother and I have been braining eachother for 24 years and you spell it out how we wanna hear it. Keep on keepin on. It's almost time to wake the kids up for school, so this is my free time. Later on, dudes. 🤘😎🤙
As a passionate lifelong red deck only player thank you so very very much for this :) Absolutely the most wonderful video I could possibly find. Thank you :)
@@CardmarketMagic Not too random. They were a collectors product after all. However there is an extremely high price variation on the market. The same deck in the same condition could sell for $50 or $200. Simultaneous active listings can easily have $100 differences, up to like $500 for the more expensive decks (eg Matt Linde with Gaea's Cradle) or for some reason people list some of the 2003 decks for way over face value. And yes, I know all this because I am currently in the process of collecting all the decks lol
I also play monored and a friend of mine made such a weird compliment like, I thought you were a smart person, I don't know why you play monored. And I was like, yeah that's the point, I spent a fraction of money you've spent building my deck and I have more win rate, isn't that smart?
Play red, eat lunch. 1. Win or lose you finish early and have the time. 2. You didn't spend your last money on duals and fetches, so you can still afford it.
Carl, you crushed this video! I've given you some flack in the past for always being too loud and yelling in other videos but I take it all back, well done mate!
I can still remember, with crystal clarity, the first time I was ever bolted to death from 9 life. And this was 20 years ago, when 9 life was still a lot. I looked down at my board full of useless green creatures I had just spent four rounds pumping and thinking, "Were we even playing the same game?" Red Deck Wins because it has MtG's lowest skill floor and arguably its highest skill ceiling.
In my opinion RDW has a lower skill ceiling than many Tempo and Spellslinger decks, but the more Burn flavors can come close. As tilting as it is to get completely run over, I definitely respect the RDW players who actually think about their decisions, I just get frustrated when these people make so many obvious misplays and still run me over because they drew well on the play.
You can win with luck, but when you are sitting on a bolt and asking yourself "removal or face?" you need to know the other decks and what they are running. And how to read your opponent. Do they look like they want to take it on the chin but would miss their creature? And having a sense of probability helps too. Knowing roughly how probable drawing another bolt Vs a hasty creature Vs a dumb mountain is not the easiest
Clearly infinite efforts into creating this video. Never would’ve thought I’d be watching a 40 min documentary one red deck wins… but thanks for making this 🎉
10:22 It's crazy to see Ironclaw Orcs, a 2/2 for 2 with DOWNSIDE, being part of a top tier deck. Especially along side broken cards like Fireblast. It tuns out that 4 damage for free and instant speed is pretty good.
Creatures were so bad in early magic compared to the spells 😅 it's hilarious how Ironclaw Orcs was played in formats with force of will and swords to plowshares
This and the Azorius Control video are fascinating. Competitive and just MTG history videos in general are really lacking on RUclips, so I love these. Keep at it if you can, great work!
Really cool video, awesome storytelling. I love a good mono red deck. Right now, the Pioneer and Pauper versions of mono red are my favorite, thanks to Swift Spear. I hope this does well and becomes a whole series, like you alluded to.
😨 woah that's bad. I thought it was just regular footage of rockets being discarded from a shuttle! The footage I took it from did not describe what I was seeing. I feel awful...
I LOVED this video. Just got back into mtg. Caught me up on the history of the deck I used to play ( sly ) . Amazing job. SUB! also sending to all my mtg friends.
Hahahaha I'm so sorry. I should have thought about that 🤔it's not the alarm I personally use and when I hear my alarm in the wild, it also stresses me out immediately. Sorry for that
Also just wanna say, idc what anyone says, as someone who plays professionally, nothing makes decks more fun and more broken than just adding red. Boros, Gruul, Izzet, Rakdos, mono red... They all have one thing in common; you don't break the game YOU BREAK IT FAST
Huge fan of this video. When I was first getting into Pioneer, I didn't really have a lot of money to buy in with one of the big decks or anything, so I just got the Burn precon and modified it a bit. Despite playing with a deck that cost maybe $60-65 total, I was going 3-1 or 4-0 all the time at my locals. I've transitioned it to Atarka red now, but I've been forever converted into a Red player in constructed formats.
Amazing video and I love history videos! Red deck wins got me into 60 card formats from commander. Being able to play my favorite card a 4 of (lightning bolt) in modern makes me so happy.
Very cool and informative video! I especially liked all the nerdy stuff like in that "is bolting a creature worth more than 3 damage to the face" segment, very cool conceptual stuff, never seen that angle discussed before
Very nice Video. :) I like listening to Carl and his Explanations and summaries of magic topics, especially in combination with experts. In addition: Red Deck Wins is the best archetype there is. :D Quick and simple all fine and dandy.
I didn't know until the comments after the video was out 😦 I just looked up free stock footage of rocket launches and this came up without a description. I feel awful about it now
So... it's obviously proven that statistically, RDW decks are the best overall performers, no doubt. However, it's a personal decision, that I think RDW decks are the lamest piles of crap. I hate playing against them, and I hate playing with them. In my heart, Red is always 2nd fiddle for EVERY OTHER COLOR.
The recent red dominance is a major reason why I stopped playing Magic. I would play Arena, but facing the same 2 or 3 decks (RDW, Turbofog thanks to Nexus of Fate, maybe one other) over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
RDW is letting Jesus take the wheel when the road is almost platonically smooth and straight. It's the design flaw that Wizards can't even fantasize about removing because it's a benchmark baked into the core mechanics, like big money in Dominion.
I remember goblins as the red deck during Onslaught adding a few tools, but I had a friend who played legacy so that history is just adding new pieces here and there. I know some have a splash of burn if needed.
Red is simple and cheap. And easy to abuse. That's why it's played more repetitively in the meta. I think if cards were not banned or removed colorless might stand as the best made deck
Really glad to see this type of video getting made. RDW is the quintessential "it's for noobs who just cast spells and turn sideways", and yet- Red Deck Wins.
If I get to make another one of these (it's tough to justify them because they are so time intensive and expensive), the next one I want to do is GB rock (and, at times, jund)! 🎉
Hey great work. I learned a lot! I typically play commander these days, so this gave me an insight into how standard actually plays out in tournaments. Also As someone newly getting back into magic since back in the day when I played it as a kid, watching these clips from the 90s was hillerious
This was a really interesting video. I've been playing casual magic off and on since Scourge and I always loved Goblin's. Red/Green ramp burn was another of the very first decks I built. I gotta say though, stories like this make me never want to play competitively. Sounds like the game gets really stale at the top when creativity is punished by the meta.
Competitive magic occasionally gets stale in some formats, but in general, it's full of different decks to play that vary wildly in play patterns. It's great fun, there is a reason there are so many competitive magic players :)
Its hard to believe people playing mono red even enjoy magic. I don't see how its fun to just play as fast and brainlessly as possible. They seem like people who play just for the match outcome rather than to actually play a match. I get that everyone wants to win, but I have no idea how its fun to play the same 2 minutes of gameplay every time. Imagine someone trying to scholar's mate every time they play chess and if it doesn't work they just lose every time and have no strategy beyond that. And now add on to that that half the time it does work isn't because you've played well, but because there's some luck based mechanic. I would say that person doesn't actually enjoy playing chess, they just seek the outcome of the game, red is no different.
Red has compelling decision trees and is much more skill intensive than some players realize. Sometimes you just win because your opponent was too slow, but sometimes you have to figure out a challenging puzzle where your opponent's cast stronger spells every turn and you have to seek out a way to use your lesser game pieces to press your early advantage and capitalize on an opponent's bad decision. Red players play Red because of the mental challenge... and because it's nice to have time to get lunch between rounds 😅
Red doesn't always win, not in every format. If you've ever heard of Eldrazi Summer (around the time you seem to have been playing) there was a portion of modern history where nothing won except for Eldrazi 😅
Thank you so much for this loveletter to mono red ❤ it was the first deck I’ve heard about as a teen in the 90’s , and recently I got back into magic and it’s been my deck and I love it 🥰
If you asked me before making this series if I'd be interested in learning MTG history I'd have said nah thx but these documentaries ended up being one of my favourite series from your channel. Kudos on the research and effort put into them!
Very good video, keep up the good work! Always waiting for more feature matches and playing with viewers decks, but this form of content is also great to watch. Basically every video on this channel is golden, and I will definitely watch the next ones!
I’ve watched most of the stuff on this channel and have enjoyed a lot of it, this feels like the best thing I’ve seen on here. Oh your collab with Remy was amazing too.
Excellent job Carl! Was a great watch start to finish. I love love LOVE docu-style videos like these. Would love to see you all cover something like eldrazi winter, or hogaak summer.
Five mana to have instant speed Lethal at 18 from a double striking 6/1 that deals damage equal to power on death and can sack itself after combat, has to be one of my finest plays. All hail the Red Deck That Wins
That's a wonderful history lesson as well as presenting one of the most successful deck types that are out there. Personally ... I don't like mono red too much. It's ... well ... not unlike uw control ... a deck that prevents opponents from playing magic. And when it doesn't it looses.
27:13 CORRECTION: It wasn't a Greek god that cursed you, it was an Egyptian god because Amonkhet and Hour, THE ancient Egypt sets were in Standard. Say hello to Set, god of storms, disorder and chaos for me
The footage was talen off of a free stock footage website and the video was not named anything special, we all missed it and only found out after the video was published :/ I've since blurred that part in the video but that's the best YTB let's us do
Ok now this is one of the best videos on the internet about not just a deck but a whole archetype, its history, strategy, notable cards and philosophy. What do we have to do to get the same video for the rest of the archetypes?
I tried one on UW control first :) ruclips.net/video/5LktYRlHPAY/видео.html And now we'll definitely be working on other ones in the future! If you have an archetype to suggest, here is the place
Played Revised/Dark through Tempest - Lots of misconceptions here, sorry. Mana curve and "mono" red agro was a thing in early 1994 - Splash 4x Taigas and 4x Kird Apes and rest was monored. DWhelps, Ball Lightnings, LB, Dis, FB, CL (lgs), EarthQ and then Mana Flare / Howling to speed it all up or Gauntlet of Might if you knew the opponent didn't play red.
I played standard from 2014 to 2017, and I do remember fondly all the super powerful red decks within this timeframe, including Boss Sligh, Rabble Red, Atarka Red, and Ramunap Red. All wonderfully powerful decks. As a long time mono black control player, I would love to see a historical deep dive on that archetype sometime.
37:47 The win% numbers are telling a silly story though - you're trying to compare "all time" based on color combo and deem it to be the best deck of all time. That's nonsense. You are not just comparing Apples to Oranges, you are comparing Apples to Post War Estonian Literature. Feel free to sleeve up any contemporaneous flavor of RDW and throw it against the "Stupid Tier" decks that got huge numbers of spells banned... or in the case of mirrodin, all the lands... RDW becomes Red Deck Watches the Academy Deck *** off on turn 2.
Yes. Yes it is the best. I've been maining mono red since 2005 when I learned the basics. (first played in 1998) These days I'm a bit more gruul cause big creatures have always been cool but GOTTA GO FAST!
The video was great! But, even though I understand the focus was on standard, one that I feel was missing is the extended RDW (I guess it was around the time where it disappeared from standard). It was basically the old small creatures + a lot of mana control in tangle wire/rishadan port/wasteland (and a new Ball Lightning in Blistering Firecat later on). I know it's a personal thing, but for me this "Ill just screw your mana while beating you down with a jackal pup" is one of the most iconic versions of the deck to date.
I Rock a version of 'Red Wins' on MTG Arena. Mainly because it didn't take a lot of thought to put together. Here I am 7 months later and it's still both my favorite and best deck. Just look for low cost creatures with haste, some dd's, and some buffs. I don't think there's a 4 drop in the entire deck. Most games usually end around turn 4 or 5. And there's nothing clever about it... ya just hit your opponent as early, often, and hard as you can. Simple as hell but it works.
Tbh red deck wins strong position did actually extent even after Dominaria set right into the best standart of the last decade (debatable with Khans cycle) Return to return of Ravnica cycle (for the long time last of the cycle sets) with cards like viashino pyromancer, ghitu lavarunner and wizard´s lightnin (bolt) and of course chainwhirler. Hower its reign was largely stemmed by the various control decks that rose up in that time and was built around either Teferi, hero of Dominaria, Nexus of fate or meme yet still viable guildgate tribal. For me it was brief yet incredible funny period of me playing standard with either RDW or gates. Also standartd after that got really downright spiral imho and it was also discontinued as regular fnm format in my lgs (actually several years back).
Bros and brosettes; is anybody feeling like red deck wins is back in standard? I'm honestly unsure whether that's a good thing even, I think standard is almost only played on arena now, and the 3year cycle makes it all feel a bit more expensive and less exciting, as sheoldred and atraxa remained legal and still are. With the presence of slick shot showoff and the mice support, it's looking like red is gonna be hard to beat for a lot longer than the amonkhet deck was, so I guess my question is: are y'all tired yet?
"Red players don't ask questions. They just attack and let their opponents decide." that just aggro way of playing. they cost 5s(max) of using braincell and cost opponent 3m of thinking and eternal suffering.
Carl i thought your Jund video was one of the best magic videos id ever seen. I looked and found Azorius and this video. You should compile this style of video into a Playlist. really incredible history lessons for the younger players and a trip down memory lane for me.
@@CardmarketMagic i know its hard to continue to find mega archetypes like these 3, but there seems no better way to tell the story of modern magic than the deck that kicked off the first modern expansion. affinity.
@@CardmarketMagic now that im thinking about how Affinity is a good way to tell the history of modern. A history of each format would be cool. Maybe not standard, But vintage type 1, type 1.5/legacy, Modern and Pauper could be neat tales
I was speaking today with Frank Karsten about doing the history of affinity :) I'll probably be doing that one next. Of course, we could weave the history of modern into it
Talking about how turn 3 wins were rare reminded me of the deck that chased me out of MTG: Arcbound Ravager Affinity. Turn 3 wins were fairly common with it. It was a scary deck that suffered a lot of bans.
1) For 4th Edition, you use the 6th Edition symbol in this video. 2) is the Shuttle clip used to describe Burn the video of the Challenger disaster in 1986? O.o
Ahhh the stuff about the format post chainwhirler reminded me of my time playing nexus… I wish I’d actually gone to more tournaments, I was killing it online with that deck; I think it was the one I had the most practice with, ever.
Red Deck Wins is kinda like the "people's champion" of all decks... it's like... when a RDW player wins, we all sorta feel like we win with you 'cause we've all played it at one point in our tourney lives lol.
19:43 “specifically mulliganing” yo this smacks of some seriously chefs kiss academia where you know everyone getting interviewed has so much more to talk about but like we have less than an hour before we lose the zoomers so let’s just keep going.
Find all the decklists from the video here: bit.ly/3JNjVjd
I've got a couple old winner decks with the gold borders. 1999 and 2000. WAY kewl.
@@coreyriegle1328 I LOVE those! They are so randomly expensive though... I'm actually working on next week's video right now which isa feature match with those decks, but from 1997, played by none other than Frank Karsten! :D
@@CardmarketMagic they are actually why I started using sleeves. That way I could play them against my brother. I've had these for about 20 years now. I've got a few cards from that era and from 01, but nothing after that. Im stoked about the videos. I really like what you're doing with the channel. It's becoming everything I hoped it would, YOU GUYS are who we look to these days. I love this game, my brother and I have been braining eachother for 24 years and you spell it out how we wanna hear it. Keep on keepin on. It's almost time to wake the kids up for school, so this is my free time. Later on, dudes.
🤘😎🤙
As a passionate lifelong red deck only player thank you so very very much for this :) Absolutely the most wonderful video I could possibly find. Thank you :)
@@CardmarketMagic Not too random. They were a collectors product after all. However there is an extremely high price variation on the market. The same deck in the same condition could sell for $50 or $200. Simultaneous active listings can easily have $100 differences, up to like $500 for the more expensive decks (eg Matt Linde with Gaea's Cradle) or for some reason people list some of the 2003 decks for way over face value. And yes, I know all this because I am currently in the process of collecting all the decks lol
"Red players don't ask questions. They just attack and let their opponents decide." This one made me chuckle as a red player.
Great video Carl.
“Math is for blockers”
I also play monored and a friend of mine made such a weird compliment like, I thought you were a smart person, I don't know why you play monored. And I was like, yeah that's the point, I spent a fraction of money you've spent building my deck and I have more win rate, isn't that smart?
Play red, eat lunch.
1. Win or lose you finish early and have the time.
2. You didn't spend your last money on duals and fetches, so you can still afford it.
It's so real too. Math is for everyone else. Swing face, feel great
Carl, you crushed this video! I've given you some flack in the past for always being too loud and yelling in other videos but I take it all back, well done mate!
Thank you! And you are not wrong, I am loud 😅 There's not much I am physically capable of doing to fix that
Not yelling may become the new standard ...
Its like a good friend once said to me, true to this comment especially "backhanded compliments are always more effective"
I love Carl being loud & yelling!
Never change Carl!
I can still remember, with crystal clarity, the first time I was ever bolted to death from 9 life. And this was 20 years ago, when 9 life was still a lot. I looked down at my board full of useless green creatures I had just spent four rounds pumping and thinking, "Were we even playing the same game?"
Red Deck Wins because it has MtG's lowest skill floor and arguably its highest skill ceiling.
Wow, this almost feels like a poem
@@CardmarketMagic Lol! I'm honored. It definitely felt poetic. Like an epic tragedy.
In my opinion RDW has a lower skill ceiling than many Tempo and Spellslinger decks, but the more Burn flavors can come close. As tilting as it is to get completely run over, I definitely respect the RDW players who actually think about their decisions, I just get frustrated when these people make so many obvious misplays and still run me over because they drew well on the play.
Highest skill ceiling is excessive, but it’s much higher than haters would like to admit
You can win with luck, but when you are sitting on a bolt and asking yourself "removal or face?" you need to know the other decks and what they are running. And how to read your opponent. Do they look like they want to take it on the chin but would miss their creature?
And having a sense of probability helps too. Knowing roughly how probable drawing another bolt Vs a hasty creature Vs a dumb mountain is not the easiest
Clearly infinite efforts into creating this video. Never would’ve thought I’d be watching a 40 min documentary one red deck wins… but thanks for making this 🎉
The production on this video is insane! Well done Carl!
It felt like a modernized version of Rhystic Studios video.
@@Stayner modernized? Rhystic Studies isn't that old lol
10:22 It's crazy to see Ironclaw Orcs, a 2/2 for 2 with DOWNSIDE, being part of a top tier deck. Especially along side broken cards like Fireblast. It tuns out that 4 damage for free and instant speed is pretty good.
Creatures were so bad in early magic compared to the spells 😅 it's hilarious how Ironclaw Orcs was played in formats with force of will and swords to plowshares
This and the Azorius Control video are fascinating. Competitive and just MTG history videos in general are really lacking on RUclips, so I love these. Keep at it if you can, great work!
Really cool video, awesome storytelling. I love a good mono red deck. Right now, the Pioneer and Pauper versions of mono red are my favorite, thanks to Swift Spear. I hope this does well and becomes a whole series, like you alluded to.
Swiftspear is a such a wild card! And good on you for playing pauper 🥳 that format needs all the traction it can get!
Swiftspear is an insane threat in pauper
How are you doing in pauper post-ban?
@@bunni2583 Worse, but that's okay. Pauper needed the refresh.
This is amazing. Carl please host more of these.
Your energy is just perfect for these type of videos ❤
Thank you that's very kind of you to say! ❤️
Correction, Jackle Pup was the first RED 1 mana 2/1. We had Savannah Lions since Alpha
Good video, but maybe dont use footage from the Challenger Explosion?
😨 woah that's bad. I thought it was just regular footage of rockets being discarded from a shuttle! The footage I took it from did not describe what I was seeing. I feel awful...
@@CardmarketMagic Mistakes happen. especially with no context stock footage
Im hyped for magic history, i love this type of stuff
I LOVED this video. Just got back into mtg. Caught me up on the history of the deck I used to play ( sly ) . Amazing job. SUB! also sending to all my mtg friends.
Mono Red is simultaneously the easiest and the hardest deck to play.
Did you put the challenger shuttle exploding in a MTG video ? ... Grim
I didn't know until the comment 😟 I just looked up stock free rocket footage and this came up without a description. And now I feel awful about it
@@CardmarketMagic is it possible to edit it out ?
Holy crap the alarm at 6:55 is my wake up alarm and it gave me shivers
Hahahaha I'm so sorry. I should have thought about that 🤔it's not the alarm I personally use and when I hear my alarm in the wild, it also stresses me out immediately. Sorry for that
Probably one of the best videos to come out, yall keep raising the bar. Good job, can't wait to see more of this series
Also just wanna say, idc what anyone says, as someone who plays professionally, nothing makes decks more fun and more broken than just adding red. Boros, Gruul, Izzet, Rakdos, mono red... They all have one thing in common; you don't break the game YOU BREAK IT FAST
Been eagerly waiting for another of this style videos from y’all! The UW control video was so so good. Just started this one and I’m already hooked!
Huge fan of this video. When I was first getting into Pioneer, I didn't really have a lot of money to buy in with one of the big decks or anything, so I just got the Burn precon and modified it a bit. Despite playing with a deck that cost maybe $60-65 total, I was going 3-1 or 4-0 all the time at my locals. I've transitioned it to Atarka red now, but I've been forever converted into a Red player in constructed formats.
The fact that WOTC allowed the Hazoret Red Deck to exist for 2 years was the catalyst for me quitting MTG. Just an absolute miserable experience.
Mono-red direct damage/aggro decks will always be cancer for the exact reasons explained in the intro. Love the history lessen, hate the decks.
This video is great. I'd love more of these in depth looks at mtg history. Keep up the great work CM crew, thanks for all you do.
Amazing video and I love history videos! Red deck wins got me into 60 card formats from commander. Being able to play my favorite card a 4 of (lightning bolt) in modern makes me so happy.
Very cool and informative video! I especially liked all the nerdy stuff like in that "is bolting a creature worth more than 3 damage to the face" segment, very cool conceptual stuff, never seen that angle discussed before
Very nice Video. :) I like listening to Carl and his Explanations and summaries of magic topics, especially in combination with experts.
In addition: Red Deck Wins is the best archetype there is. :D
Quick and simple all fine and dandy.
Did you just really put the challenger disaster in a magic video?
I didn't know until the comments after the video was out 😦 I just looked up free stock footage of rocket launches and this came up without a description. I feel awful about it now
So... it's obviously proven that statistically, RDW decks are the best overall performers, no doubt. However, it's a personal decision, that I think RDW decks are the lamest piles of crap. I hate playing against them, and I hate playing with them. In my heart, Red is always 2nd fiddle for EVERY OTHER COLOR.
The recent red dominance is a major reason why I stopped playing Magic. I would play Arena, but facing the same 2 or 3 decks (RDW, Turbofog thanks to Nexus of Fate, maybe one other) over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over...
This was so good!
Really high quality content that is well researched
RDW is letting Jesus take the wheel when the road is almost platonically smooth and straight. It's the design flaw that Wizards can't even fantasize about removing because it's a benchmark baked into the core mechanics, like big money in Dominion.
Incredible ep, esp because you brought such a high quality player such as Thalai. Excellent work all around!
I remember goblins as the red deck during Onslaught adding a few tools, but I had a friend who played legacy so that history is just adding new pieces here and there. I know some have a splash of burn if needed.
Red is simple and cheap. And easy to abuse. That's why it's played more repetitively in the meta. I think if cards were not banned or removed colorless might stand as the best made deck
Really glad to see this type of video getting made. RDW is the quintessential "it's for noobs who just cast spells and turn sideways", and yet- Red Deck Wins.
I have watched the Blue White Control video you made probably 5 times now and so excited to watch this one
Deck stories are the best! Hope this series does well, because I wanna know everything I can about my favourite archetype Golgari Rock
If I get to make another one of these (it's tough to justify them because they are so time intensive and expensive), the next one I want to do is GB rock (and, at times, jund)! 🎉
Hey great work. I learned a lot! I typically play commander these days, so this gave me an insight into how standard actually plays out in tournaments. Also As someone newly getting back into magic since back in the day when I played it as a kid, watching these clips from the 90s was hillerious
This was a really interesting video. I've been playing casual magic off and on since Scourge and I always loved Goblin's. Red/Green ramp burn was another of the very first decks I built.
I gotta say though, stories like this make me never want to play competitively. Sounds like the game gets really stale at the top when creativity is punished by the meta.
Competitive magic occasionally gets stale in some formats, but in general, it's full of different decks to play that vary wildly in play patterns. It's great fun, there is a reason there are so many competitive magic players :)
The first two power one drop in aggro? I guess no one played Savannah Lions or Kird Ape in aggro…
Its hard to believe people playing mono red even enjoy magic. I don't see how its fun to just play as fast and brainlessly as possible. They seem like people who play just for the match outcome rather than to actually play a match. I get that everyone wants to win, but I have no idea how its fun to play the same 2 minutes of gameplay every time. Imagine someone trying to scholar's mate every time they play chess and if it doesn't work they just lose every time and have no strategy beyond that. And now add on to that that half the time it does work isn't because you've played well, but because there's some luck based mechanic. I would say that person doesn't actually enjoy playing chess, they just seek the outcome of the game, red is no different.
Red has compelling decision trees and is much more skill intensive than some players realize. Sometimes you just win because your opponent was too slow, but sometimes you have to figure out a challenging puzzle where your opponent's cast stronger spells every turn and you have to seek out a way to use your lesser game pieces to press your early advantage and capitalize on an opponent's bad decision. Red players play Red because of the mental challenge... and because it's nice to have time to get lunch between rounds 😅
I loved Hazored, played it a fair bit, but I really miss my black Drana/Eldrazi deck I built for (and won) a win-a-box and beat red every other round.
Red doesn't always win, not in every format. If you've ever heard of Eldrazi Summer (around the time you seem to have been playing) there was a portion of modern history where nothing won except for Eldrazi 😅
14:12 Jackal Pup wasn't the 1st 2 power creature for 1. Savannah Lions are from Alpha, Ghazbán Ogre is from Arabians, etc.
We're specifically talking about Red here :) I would never forget savanna lions
I really loved this video, and it would be awesome if y’all did more of these
Watching them play without sleeves is very triggering
This is an incredible series. I'd love to see one for each color.
Thank you so much for this loveletter to mono red ❤ it was the first deck I’ve heard about as a teen in the 90’s , and recently I got back into magic and it’s been my deck and I love it 🥰
6:32 I never knew the logo for 4th edition was the number 6.
If you asked me before making this series if I'd be interested in learning MTG history I'd have said nah thx but these documentaries ended up being one of my favourite series from your channel. Kudos on the research and effort put into them!
Very good video, keep up the good work! Always waiting for more feature matches and playing with viewers decks, but this form of content is also great to watch. Basically every video on this channel is golden, and I will definitely watch the next ones!
please make more of these, love this style of video
Loved this documentary style video! Amazing breakdown with great interviews
I’ve watched most of the stuff on this channel and have enjoyed a lot of it, this feels like the best thing I’ve seen on here. Oh your collab with Remy was amazing too.
Excellent job Carl! Was a great watch start to finish. I love love LOVE docu-style videos like these. Would love to see you all cover something like eldrazi winter, or hogaak summer.
That's a great idea! :D
The editing is just amazing. Really disappointing to see that it only got 3k likes when so much effort is put into it.
Great video! Nice work on the history and deck tech lesson. Great job, please more 😉👍
Five mana to have instant speed Lethal at 18 from a double striking 6/1 that deals damage equal to power on death and can sack itself after combat, has to be one of my finest plays. All hail the Red Deck That Wins
That's a wonderful history lesson as well as presenting one of the most successful deck types that are out there.
Personally ... I don't like mono red too much. It's ... well ... not unlike uw control ... a deck that prevents opponents from playing magic. And when it doesn't it looses.
I made one on UW control and it's ridiculousness as well :) if ever you are interested
ruclips.net/video/5LktYRlHPAY/видео.html
@@CardmarketMagic Already watched it, of course.
I'm eagerly awaiting Faeries (aggro control).
That is the content I subscribe for.
11/10
Oh look! Summoning Salt is making MTG videos now.
Loved the content!
I'll take that as a huge compliment 😃
Really like the video, would love to see some more of this content from you guys. You get better with each video! Keep up the good work.
With the quality you guys are putting out you'll be at 100k Subs in no time! TBH I'm surprised it hasn't already happened.
🤞 hopefully!
I absolutely love this video, I definitely enjoy this sort of Magic Theory/History video
27:13 CORRECTION: It wasn't a Greek god that cursed you, it was an Egyptian god because Amonkhet and Hour, THE ancient Egypt sets were in Standard. Say hello to Set, god of storms, disorder and chaos for me
How am I only now being shown this video!?!? This is so awesome, I really hope there's more.
As a Red Mage, I loved this video.
Red. Deck. Wins.
Yes please, this is probably the best format of the channel, i would love an analysis on tempo decks!
Great captivating start. I will revisit this with more time on my hands!
This was amazing! RDW is my favourite! Thanks!
This was a beautiful video, guys!!
Great work
Carl's delivery in this video is the best I've seen from him. Fantastic production and great subject! More like this please!!
These videos are by far some of my favorites of everything you guys make! Please make more 😁 Would love to see a video on agro control
"This was the first two-power one drop..."
Poor Savannah Lions...
In red! It would be another story if we were talking about the white deck :)
Loved this video!!! I'm glad y'all are back at it!!! Y'all are great!!!!
Holyshit. Did yall really use footage of the challenger rocket? 🤣
The footage was talen off of a free stock footage website and the video was not named anything special, we all missed it and only found out after the video was published :/ I've since blurred that part in the video but that's the best YTB let's us do
Awesome video! Thanks for all the work you put in, hope we can see more like it
Ok now this is one of the best videos on the internet about not just a deck but a whole archetype, its history, strategy, notable cards and philosophy. What do we have to do to get the same video for the rest of the archetypes?
I tried one on UW control first :)
ruclips.net/video/5LktYRlHPAY/видео.html
And now we'll definitely be working on other ones in the future! If you have an archetype to suggest, here is the place
Played Revised/Dark through Tempest - Lots of misconceptions here, sorry.
Mana curve and "mono" red agro was a thing in early 1994 - Splash 4x Taigas and 4x Kird Apes and rest was monored.
DWhelps, Ball Lightnings, LB, Dis, FB, CL (lgs), EarthQ and then Mana Flare / Howling to speed it all up or Gauntlet of Might if you knew the opponent didn't play red.
I finally subbed because I really hope you make more videos like this! I love almost all the content on this channel, but this tops it all.
I'd love to make more like this :) what archetype should we work on next?
@@CardmarketMagicdefinitely make more of this and 100% control and psychatog.
Also what kinda hat is Tobias wearing. I want one!
An history of specific formats meta would also be amazing
I played standard from 2014 to 2017, and I do remember fondly all the super powerful red decks within this timeframe, including Boss Sligh, Rabble Red, Atarka Red, and Ramunap Red. All wonderfully powerful decks.
As a long time mono black control player, I would love to see a historical deep dive on that archetype sometime.
37:47 The win% numbers are telling a silly story though - you're trying to compare "all time" based on color combo and deem it to be the best deck of all time. That's nonsense. You are not just comparing Apples to Oranges, you are comparing Apples to Post War Estonian Literature. Feel free to sleeve up any contemporaneous flavor of RDW and throw it against the "Stupid Tier" decks that got huge numbers of spells banned... or in the case of mirrodin, all the lands... RDW becomes Red Deck Watches the Academy Deck *** off on turn 2.
Yes. Yes it is the best. I've been maining mono red since 2005 when I learned the basics. (first played in 1998) These days I'm a bit more gruul cause big creatures have always been cool but GOTTA GO FAST!
The video was great! But, even though I understand the focus was on standard, one that I feel was missing is the extended RDW (I guess it was around the time where it disappeared from standard). It was basically the old small creatures + a lot of mana control in tangle wire/rishadan port/wasteland (and a new Ball Lightning in Blistering Firecat later on). I know it's a personal thing, but for me this "Ill just screw your mana while beating you down with a jackal pup" is one of the most iconic versions of the deck to date.
I Rock a version of 'Red Wins' on MTG Arena. Mainly because it didn't take a lot of thought to put together. Here I am 7 months later and it's still both my favorite and best deck. Just look for low cost creatures with haste, some dd's, and some buffs. I don't think there's a 4 drop in the entire deck. Most games usually end around turn 4 or 5. And there's nothing clever about it... ya just hit your opponent as early, often, and hard as you can. Simple as hell but it works.
Playing RDW always gives a rush. Every choice is about speed and impact. It's so satisfying to win with it.
Tbh red deck wins strong position did actually extent even after Dominaria set right into the best standart of the last decade (debatable with Khans cycle) Return to return of Ravnica cycle (for the long time last of the cycle sets) with cards like viashino pyromancer, ghitu lavarunner and wizard´s lightnin (bolt) and of course chainwhirler. Hower its reign was largely stemmed by the various control decks that rose up in that time and was built around either Teferi, hero of Dominaria, Nexus of fate or meme yet still viable guildgate tribal. For me it was brief yet incredible funny period of me playing standard with either RDW or gates. Also standartd after that got really downright spiral imho and it was also discontinued as regular fnm format in my lgs (actually several years back).
Bros and brosettes; is anybody feeling like red deck wins is back in standard?
I'm honestly unsure whether that's a good thing even, I think standard is almost only played on arena now, and the 3year cycle makes it all feel a bit more expensive and less exciting, as sheoldred and atraxa remained legal and still are.
With the presence of slick shot showoff and the mice support, it's looking like red is gonna be hard to beat for a lot longer than the amonkhet deck was, so I guess my question is: are y'all tired yet?
"Red players don't ask questions. They just attack and let their opponents decide."
that just aggro way of playing. they cost 5s(max) of using braincell and cost opponent 3m of thinking and eternal suffering.
Great video! Hope these carry on with other deck types
Great video! I really hope to see some aggro-control archetypes!
Amazing video! and I had no idea that his world champion card was a cute callback to Hazoret the FERVENT + Javier the CHAMPION. Mind blown
Carl i thought your Jund video was one of the best magic videos id ever seen. I looked and found Azorius and this video.
You should compile this style of video into a Playlist. really incredible history lessons for the younger players and a trip down memory lane for me.
I'm happy you enjoyed them! :D a Playlist for these is a great idea! Is there a specific archetype you'd like to see in the next one?
@@CardmarketMagic i know its hard to continue to find mega archetypes like these 3, but there seems no better way to tell the story of modern magic than the deck that kicked off the first modern expansion. affinity.
@@CardmarketMagic now that im thinking about how Affinity is a good way to tell the history of modern. A history of each format would be cool. Maybe not standard, But vintage type 1, type 1.5/legacy, Modern and Pauper could be neat tales
I was speaking today with Frank Karsten about doing the history of affinity :) I'll probably be doing that one next. Of course, we could weave the history of modern into it
Talking about how turn 3 wins were rare reminded me of the deck that chased me out of MTG: Arcbound Ravager Affinity. Turn 3 wins were fairly common with it. It was a scary deck that suffered a lot of bans.
1) For 4th Edition, you use the 6th Edition symbol in this video.
2) is the Shuttle clip used to describe Burn the video of the Challenger disaster in 1986?
O.o
Ahhh the stuff about the format post chainwhirler reminded me of my time playing nexus… I wish I’d actually gone to more tournaments, I was killing it online with that deck; I think it was the one I had the most practice with, ever.
Red Deck Wins is kinda like the "people's champion" of all decks... it's like... when a RDW player wins, we all sorta feel like we win with you 'cause we've all played it at one point in our tourney lives lol.
"turn 3 kills are generally unheard of in today's magic"
Ah man you can tell this was before we got into the double-fling 1-drops ;(
19:43 “specifically mulliganing” yo this smacks of some seriously chefs kiss academia where you know everyone getting interviewed has so much more to talk about but like we have less than an hour before we lose the zoomers so let’s just keep going.