Magic in 1998 Was Truly Something Else | Mono Red Sligh vs Recurring Nightmare

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • We invited special guest Frank Karsten to play the 1998 World Championship Top 4 decks and show us what the game was like back then! We explore the old mulligan rules, mana curve, and the precursor to The Stack.
    Want to win this Sligh deck? Simply comment your favorite story about Mono Red or the World Championships in the comment section of the following insight article: (bit.ly/3q08E7O). We will pick one of the comments at random before August 2nd and will mail the deck used in this video to the address listed on your Cardmarket account. We ask you to please limit yourself to one contest comment per user.
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Комментарии • 678

  • @CardmarketMagic
    @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +33

    🔥💀 Decklists and chance to win: bit.ly/3q08E7O
    The rules for the contest can be found here: help.cardmarket.com/en/Gold-Bordered-Deck-Giveaway

    • @eric.ingram
      @eric.ingram Год назад +4

      Looking forward to the party y'all throw when you eventually partner with a U.S. based distribution service.

    • @ajf8928
      @ajf8928 Год назад +2

      So you can’t enter if you are in the us because it’s not an option so I can’t make an account

    • @TeraunceFoaloke
      @TeraunceFoaloke Год назад

      wow! Nice episode but unfortunate the thing won't even let you create an account if you aren't in the EU.

    • @benjaminloyd6056
      @benjaminloyd6056 Год назад +1

      I hope you do a "Who can die first" video like your Yugioh Channel did, it was very fun.

    • @richardfarrer5616
      @richardfarrer5616 Год назад

      I still have a copy of the Rec Sur deck that I picked up at the time. I suppose it would be nice to try the other deck too.

  • @davidhansen5067
    @davidhansen5067 Год назад +337

    Old Magic *and* Frank Karsten? You've made my day!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +86

      We filmed a whole series of these :) so hopefully we'll be making a few more of your days in the upcoming months

    • @davidhansen5067
      @davidhansen5067 Год назад +9

      🎉

    • @GraemeGunn
      @GraemeGunn Год назад +14

      @@CardmarketMagic a whole series? I'm stoked

    • @kkahakusan5591
      @kkahakusan5591 Год назад +2

      Neat!

    • @stealthyperson0078
      @stealthyperson0078 Год назад +3

      @@CardmarketMagic YESSSSS let’s goooo thank you Carl/Jamin

  • @dmany13
    @dmany13 Год назад +310

    I loved the best of standard decks played in worlds. I would like to see the best banned standard deck of all time

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +91

      We'll be doing something similar next year, but we'll have our subscribers vote for the best deck of each year :) including banned ones

    • @kolbybryant1
      @kolbybryant1 Год назад +2

      I'd love for it to last all year, or maybe an additional video per week of a tournament bracket

    • @olivergre1054
      @olivergre1054 Год назад +7

      That would be Oko Eldraine whatever. Insanely ahead of everything else,

    • @therealkami
      @therealkami Год назад +2

      @@CardmarketMagic I hope to see my favorite deck Green/White Slide from Julien Nuijten make an appearance some time.

    • @rcarlson787
      @rcarlson787 Год назад +7

      @@olivergre1054 Seems like Tolarian Acadmey decks wouldn't care much about an Oko deck or their interaction, given how fast they can win.
      Nizzahon Magic did a great RUclips video on some of the top banned standard decks, would recommend watching.

  • @spliffi869
    @spliffi869 Год назад +180

    One of the best magic products ever released. So sad they stopped that tradition (unlike pokemon that still does these). Those champion decks are such a cool thing and actually a great tool to re-experience the history & evolution of magic the gathering. Hope they gonna make these someday again..!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +60

      I am fascinated by this product! I really wish they brought it back :) it would be so good for the game. Unfortunately, if they did, it would be like 400€

    • @diabeticmonkey
      @diabeticmonkey Год назад +26

      @@CardmarketMagicNo kidding. I wouldn’t be surprised if they tried to sell Championship boosters (Talrand included).

    • @jdom-fl1cu
      @jdom-fl1cu Год назад +3

      ​@@diabeticmonkeystandard decks these days are just that expensive

    • @kingfuzzy2
      @kingfuzzy2 Год назад +3

      I hope one day for gold bordered cards to be tournament legal and for every card to have a gold border. It is by far my favorite border and I'd love to see it pop up in more than the four formats they are legal in.

    • @nyvisalays2475
      @nyvisalays2475 Год назад +9

      I think the "not tournament legal" aspect has potential. Those are basically wotc printed proxies. The answer is of course to print your own if they refuse to do so. But it's less cool, those look really fancy.

  • @doemagic
    @doemagic Год назад +66

    The 4 turn win with the red deck game 2 made my inner red player shed a tear

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +27

      It goes to show that, even in a terrible match-up, the red deck can always sneak in a win :)

  • @DackKija
    @DackKija Год назад +122

    YES! More of the early days of Magic. These "Flashback" episodes are an absolute treat!

    • @nickfanzo
      @nickfanzo Год назад

      1998 isn’t early. I was playing in 1994

  • @Alessandro-vv2fh
    @Alessandro-vv2fh Год назад +73

    I love how chill and knowledgeable Karsten is. He's my favorite Wall of Famer.

  • @Loren_Law
    @Loren_Law Год назад +51

    The Recurring nightmare deck reminds me a lot of Pioneer Greasefang. and the game had the same motions as greasefang vs. mono red. So much has changed in MTG yet the decks today have the same silhouette as these classics.

    • @alejandrorivas4585
      @alejandrorivas4585 Год назад +8

      Greasefang is my recurring nightmare

    • @nyvisalays2475
      @nyvisalays2475 Год назад +2

      I think it has a much cooler toolbox of nonsense, probably because the creatures are overall weaker so you get to play more tricky interactions. And of course survival means you get to play a lot of one off answers.

  • @zanebarber8688
    @zanebarber8688 Год назад +56

    Frank Karsten was fantastic, I loved his input and contextualization that he brought. Love to see this as a series!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +11

      You think like we do! As we filmed 5 videos of this with Frank :) we'll be releasing one a month. If they do well, we'd love to do one for every year of magic's history

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 Год назад +57

    I really appreciate that you explain The Batch - it was honestly something I never really understood since I started playing more seriously when the Stack was introduced.

    • @modothegreat108
      @modothegreat108 Год назад +11

      The Batch is weird. It's more like YuGiOh's Chains than modern Stacks, but still has a bunch of weird interactions that break that comparison too.

  • @BIGPILGRIM420
    @BIGPILGRIM420 Год назад +91

    shouts out to Ralph and Frank. gaming history is too often taken for granted, glad to see people dedicated to maintaining and sharing it.

    • @ralr
      @ralr Год назад +14

      Thanks 😊

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +18

      Frank is great everyone knows that, but Ralph is a true MVP for reaching out to lend us these cards. We were so excited to receive the decks!

  • @azryve
    @azryve Год назад +32

    Your channel is a gift that keeps on giving. Please keep doing your thing. More retro Magic! More Frank!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +11

      We filmed a whole 5 video series on this with Frank:) I hope you enjoy the next 4 through the following months

    • @woodoowooda_yt1713
      @woodoowooda_yt1713 Год назад +3

      @@CardmarketMagic Can't wait for it !

  • @Narakiomal
    @Narakiomal Год назад +57

    Man, Recurring of the Fittest is such a messed up combo XD
    Great video as always and great to see Frank back :3

  • @TheFvsdg
    @TheFvsdg Год назад +12

    I love this! Old magic content with y’all’s level of production quality is so rare. What a sad thing that wizards stopped printing world championship decks. I had some of the individual cards as a kid and gold boarders were the only way I could afford to experience powerful magic.

  • @joshuakoury7399
    @joshuakoury7399 Год назад +23

    I absolutely love these historic matches and seeing Frank deftly explain the history and nuisances of the game from that time. More please!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +10

      We filmed 5 videos with Frank :) hopefully you enjoy the next 4 we will be releasing through the next few months

    • @nZektor
      @nZektor Год назад +1

      @@CardmarketMagic Holy shit I instantly subbed reading that

  • @marxmeesterlijk
    @marxmeesterlijk Год назад +15

    This is so much fun. I've seen these decks around back in the day, but unfortunately never got them. Nice to see them in action.
    It's kinda funny, it's like Hazored VS birthing pod.

  • @raym9453
    @raym9453 Год назад +8

    I love watching these videos with old decks. Seeing magic with fair cards is so refreshing.

  • @tweatification
    @tweatification Год назад +11

    Back when I started in odyssey a friend had all these in real cards and we played a lot of games against them using my standard deck. Survival always blew my mind with how powerful it was. He had an answer for everything. Never won against that one or any of them but it really drew me in with how someone could construct decks like that that could basically blank out everything. The combo decks from back then while they weren’t fast by today’s standards were very interesting to watch and gave you a sense of false hope that you could pull out - until the 7/7 hit the board and even if you could remove it just came back.

    • @jefftucker9225
      @jefftucker9225 Год назад +2

      I had all of these cards, sold some on Ebay in the early 2000's, I'm afraid to look at the prices now and see how much money I lost selling them

  • @Hypermegaultrasuper
    @Hypermegaultrasuper Год назад +17

    Videos like this is exactly what mtg was missing. Keep it up!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +6

      We will! :) we recorded 5 of these with Frank, 4 more will be published in the upcoming months

  • @asdfasdfas364
    @asdfasdfas364 11 месяцев назад +1

    I love this video! Brian Selden's deck left a huge impression on me as a kid; it was the first time I'd seen that "toolbox" approach to deck building and a mana base that could support 5 colours. Wish they'd bring back the world championship decks, it's such a good way to introduce people to competitive play.

  • @GraemeGunn
    @GraemeGunn Год назад +10

    Recurring Nightmare and Survival of The Fittest is truly the best combo ever, you feel like a god when you're using Brian's deck, it's crazy.

  • @DeadlyGrim
    @DeadlyGrim Год назад +15

    Yes! More historical content.
    I didn't even recognize the interaction between the saproling tokens and Recurring Nightmare before Jamin did it. Oof, that is one sticky creature!

  • @loxeggcheese
    @loxeggcheese Год назад +6

    Great video! I always love old standard content, but the added bonus of frank karstens mtg historical knowledge is just amazing!

  • @ishae3198
    @ishae3198 Год назад +2

    Bring us more of these! This was awesome to see!
    My fondest memory of these was a red-green deck from 2000 that introduced me to Plow Under, a vicious spell that would somehow both manascrew and manaflood an opponent at the same time.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      We will hopefully be doing one of these for every year :)

  • @js2k2
    @js2k2 Год назад +2

    I remember as it was yesterday, Cursed Scroll was the most wanted card of T2 in the day, amazing to see this kind of content. Excellent stuff, congrats! =)

  • @AlphaCitizen
    @AlphaCitizen Год назад +2

    I played back then.
    It was a great time in the game, with no Universes Beyond muddling the experience.
    BTW, we didn't call it Standard. It was Type 2.
    Type 1.5 was basically Modern, IIRC.
    Type 1 was akin to Vintage, which is how my friends and I played before EDH was invented - 60 card, Type 1.
    We played Multiplayer and Duels with the same deck.

  • @SvviftDeath
    @SvviftDeath Год назад +2

    This was so fun to watch, so much nostalgia. I'm so glad I got to play early enough to acquire some of these powerful cards. If I had been a competitive player back then I 100% would've played Brian's decklist, It has all my favorites. Can't wait to see the rest of the series showing off the rest of the decks. Thank you Ralph for your contribution.

  • @dreadfulpopcorn
    @dreadfulpopcorn Год назад +6

    I really enjoyed listening and learning about the old rules! Learning about the batch was absolutely fascinating

    • @jasonslade6259
      @jasonslade6259 Год назад

      Another rule that was changed just before these championship decks were made - there used to be a step during combat where you could activate instant speed effects after combat damage was assigned but before damage was delt.
      That meant Mog Fanatic could kill 2 toughness creatures, or 2 for 1 with two 1 toughness creatures and is a major reason why the combat rules were changed.

  • @russelltodd5255
    @russelltodd5255 Год назад +1

    Love seeing these old games coming back to life in modern times. Started playing at the end of '93. Sadly no longer have the champion deck Jamin was using so it's good to see it here. Fun.

  • @ralr
    @ralr Год назад +3

    So this was awesome.... 😍 Thanks Carl for making this happen. And thanks to Frank and Jamin for the piloting and the context of the era. 🎉

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +2

      If these do well, I'd really like to do one of these for every year! And don't forget to thank Ralph :) he reached out to us offering to lend us his worlds decks and that's what gave me the idea for this series (we'll have 4 more coming out in the next months)

  • @Breath_Alive
    @Breath_Alive Год назад +5

    That recurring nightmare deck is beautiful. It makes me sad that the power creep is so bad that this deck is basically unplayable now. All of the OP cards are taking the fun and cool simple interaction away. Now a 1 mana drop has a whole book worth of text. No more vanilla creatures being created. Mtg is more confusing than ever because they just have to keep coming up with wacky mechanics that are essentially a reskinned version of older mechanics. This was really enjoyable game play to watch.

    • @WhiteBorderMTG
      @WhiteBorderMTG Год назад +1

      You should check out Premodern, Survival and Nightmare are both legal and so are gold-border cards. Middleschool is another format that focuses on the same era with a different ban list.

  • @bricelory9534
    @bricelory9534 Год назад +2

    Truly classic Magic - love it! Thank you for this awesome blast from the past. Love it, and Frank brings a real understanding of what classic Magic is like. Love it!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +3

      I'm thrilled you enjoyed this one :) we filmed a series of them with Frank and will be releasing a new one every 3-4 weeks. Hopefully we'll have one for every year eventually

    • @bricelory9534
      @bricelory9534 Год назад

      @@CardmarketMagic that's awesome! I really appreciate that your channel is both excited about new Magic but also shows genuine love for previous generations of the game. It's special.

  • @fusionspace175
    @fusionspace175 Год назад

    This is very indicative of how these games would often go, and brings back a lot of memories of playing with these special decks. Thanks for these.

  • @ComposerMathieu
    @ComposerMathieu Год назад +3

    Oh man.. I had both of these when I was growing up. Really wish I knew what happened to my old collection between all the moves my family did when I was young. The recurring nightmare deck especially made me so nostalgic sitting in my bedroom trying to understand all the pieces. So cool to see them played at such a high level!
    Edit: also, I'm loving this history + gameplay format. Super fun and interesting.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      I'm happy you like it! We made 5 videos for 5 different years with Frank and I hope you enjoy the next ones as well :D

  • @JCdegozaru
    @JCdegozaru Год назад +1

    These sets were around the time I got into MTG so this just sent me on a massive nostalgia trip. I couldn't stop smiling seeing some of the plays I used to see at FNM back in the day.

  • @alexmiller1256
    @alexmiller1256 Год назад

    How is this not the menu for every stream out there? Provide all information you need and does not overcrowded the screen. Displays triggers when they occur which allows the viewer to follow along with combos. Looks clean as hell and isn't obtrusive of the play field. Hats off to whoever designed it

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      Thank you :) it took me a lot of trial and error through many videos, but I'm broud of what it looks like now

  • @justintcov2402
    @justintcov2402 11 месяцев назад

    Big kudos to the person who not only loaned the decks but also was cool with playing sleeveless. Really brings back the nostalgia. Thank you

  • @GraemeGunn
    @GraemeGunn Год назад +3

    I'm SO EXCITED to watch Jamin play with my favourite deck ever lol.
    He's going to be SO happy with it.

  • @GraemeGunn
    @GraemeGunn Год назад +4

    Oh wow this is a TRIP
    I started in 1997, this is really cool to see again! I wish I had kept that Championship deck though lol

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      I'm thrilled that you enjoyed it :) and you couldn't know at the time that these would be expensive/nostalgic. It's a thing about the good old days. You never know that they are the good old days until it's too late :)

  • @mrpandabites
    @mrpandabites Год назад +3

    This was the format I started playing in! I started buying magic cards with Ice Age and Alliances and I remember loving the new sets of Mirage Visions and Weatherlight Tempest so much. Back in the day when a Hammer of Bogardan cost more than a Force of Will, we played with real creatures! None of this hand-holding where everything has an ETB and 3 upsides 😂

    • @asafoetidajones8181
      @asafoetidajones8181 Год назад +2

      I traded away two force of wills for almost nothing. Nobody cared about them. We were all like "discard a whole extra card? Hell no"

  • @noahmorris1015
    @noahmorris1015 Год назад +1

    this is like candy for me. your videos are always fantastic, but this might be my favorite since temurgy versus prismatic black! bringing frank karsten on is always a delight, and old magic makes me so engaged and interested. great work!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      I'm thrilled you enjoyed it :) we filmed 5 of these with Frank that I will be working on in the upcoming months. If they do well, I hope to do one for every year

    • @noahmorris1015
      @noahmorris1015 Год назад

      @@CardmarketMagic Amazing! I cant wait to watch them :)

  • @Varler_
    @Varler_ Год назад +2

    That was a really neat video! It's cool seeing what Magic was like before I started playing in 2004.

  • @lastnamefirstname8655
    @lastnamefirstname8655 Год назад +2

    the old days of magic the gathering. very nostalgic-feeling, even though i wasn't there during the inception of mtg. thank you for more history lessons, cardmarket!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      We filmed 5 videos about these with Frank :) we'll be releasing them in the next few months. I hope you enjoy the next 4 as well!

    • @lastnamefirstname8655
      @lastnamefirstname8655 Год назад

      @@CardmarketMagic i'm sure i will!

  • @ajpbrunet
    @ajpbrunet Год назад +1

    These retro videos are great! Obviously I'm biased because this is the Magic I learned to play growing up: I remember buying the French equivalent of Duelist magazine to understand how the stack worked and I'm still conditioned to think about creatures' P/T & CMC as basically "needing to be balanced" (and the way that was done back then looks insane now, 11 year old me was stoked to have Balduvian Horde in his deck lol). Great work as always guys. Loved Frank's chill professorial vibes and Jamin's glee at the deck popping off. And kudos on the editing, it just keeps getting better and better.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      Merci :) c'est gentil de ta part! J'ai vraiment apprécier éditer cet épisode! Et c'est toujours in plaisir d'avoir Frank à Berlin

  • @fireandice1060
    @fireandice1060 Год назад +2

    Love seeing Karsten back on the channel, love his knowledge of magic from the beginning years!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      Frank is great :) we filmed 5 videos like this with him I hope you'll enjoy them, we'll be publishing them every 3-4 weeks

  • @gurrekurre1726
    @gurrekurre1726 Год назад +2

    My favourite story of Mono red was when my favourite RUclips Channel from Berlin played a deck full of little monkés against a deck full of thunderbolts 🎉

  • @mariosprokopakis4868
    @mariosprokopakis4868 Год назад

    I can't describe how much I love all the videos that you guys make that have to do with the history of the game. Please never stop, you are killing it!

  • @iliasmess
    @iliasmess Год назад +1

    Whoooa! That's the kind of videos RUclips was made for! 👌 Super nostalgia, keep 'em coming!

  • @BouncingTribbles
    @BouncingTribbles Год назад +1

    I remember buying the Duelist issue that showcased the Sligh deck and outlined the mana curve. It changed my life. I reread it dozens of times. There was an offhand sentence about altering the mana curve for other decks and it was just as revolutionary as you say

    • @BouncingTribbles
      @BouncingTribbles Год назад

      I boggled when I saw the "Art of Beatdown", that was it. That's the article that made me a mythic green player

  • @alexvidro2127
    @alexvidro2127 Год назад +1

    My favorite Mono red deck I played was my friends Goblins to the face deck. It was back in 2015 or so, there was nothing too special about the deck, but I was still able to place at the first tournament I entered. It left a long love for TCG, collecting, and learning about the game.

  • @FinanzasMTG
    @FinanzasMTG Год назад +1

    In case anybody is interested, you can delve into Premodern, where all this cards are legal (including the Gold Border versions, as it is aan unsanctioned format) and gameplay is very similar. A great format if you want to experience old Magic!

  • @Psycchan
    @Psycchan Год назад

    my dad had all these decks and they were a HUGE part of him teaching me to play magic as a kid! crazy watching someone who really knows what theyre doing piloting that nightmare/survival deck and remembering 6 year old me just randomly playing cards lmao

  • @Habizbah
    @Habizbah Год назад

    I adore these type of videos. Such a blast from the past and a way to appreciate where we are in the game and how we got here. Keep up the excellent work team!

  • @fosterdawson7339
    @fosterdawson7339 Год назад

    My favorite thing about the world champs was watching all the old replays of crazy plays on RUclips when I was just getting into magic. Stuff like surviving 5 ignite memories triggers, winning against Necropotence on a bad mull with multiple Unmasks from the opp, Char the face and flip a burn spell, it's weird thinking about how I was barely alive if that when they happened but they still left a lasting impact on magic as a whole.

  • @Amanojaku38
    @Amanojaku38 Год назад

    Das ist Nostalgie pur! Danke für das Video. Das Ruben Deck hatte ich damals (auch golden umrahmt), ich spielte es gerne gegen Schulfreunde. Damals bekam ich die sammelsucht aufgrund dieses Decks...und diese sucht fällt bis heute an. Leider wurde es durch einen Wasserschaden in meinem damaligen Elternhaus mit meiner damaligen kleinen Sammlung zerstört. Aber dank des Ruben Decks lernte ich Magic bis heute lieben.

  • @DerickTheHeroV2
    @DerickTheHeroV2 Год назад +1

    THIS IS SUCH AN AWESOME IDEA FOR A VIDEO FORMAT!!!! THANK YOU CARDMARKET!!!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      I'm happy you enjoyed it :) we recorded 4 more of these with Frank, they'll be released in the following months

    • @DerickTheHeroV2
      @DerickTheHeroV2 Год назад

      @@CardmarketMagic I saw that in the comments from previous replies. That is super cool. This will fill the void from the best standard deck ever series well.

  • @XTimTheEnchanterX
    @XTimTheEnchanterX Год назад +1

    Absolutely love these types of videos and always love to see Frank on the channel!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      We recorded 5 of these with Frank :) hopefully you also enjoy the next 4 that will be released in the next months!

  • @christopherpatricklizares5306
    @christopherpatricklizares5306 Год назад

    I was six years old when these decks duked it out for the World Championship, and we already had The Stack when I started playing the game years later. So it's really cool to get to see what the game played like back then.
    This was a hell of a watch.
    Thanks, guys! Loved this, and would love to see more of it.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +2

      Happy you enjoyed it :) we actually filmed 5 of these with Frank and I hope you enjoy the upcoming ones we publish in the next few months!

  • @janthomassen9577
    @janthomassen9577 Год назад +1

    This was great! I remember playing a version of this back in '99-00.

  • @Alpha_November
    @Alpha_November Год назад +2

    Just yesterday I was thinking about pre-2000 decks and wondering if you guys would make a video about it. What can i say my dream came true. Seeing a recurring survival deck in action was awesome. Thank you guys.❤

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      Wow your thoughts must have mailed us because we filmed 5 videos on the topic with Frank that we will be releasing through the next few months :)

  • @Joshfortian15
    @Joshfortian15 Год назад

    I am very glad u cover classic mtg. The footage is mostly lost so it is nice to see what it was like back then. The origins of anything are usually very interesting.

  • @mrcampi9797
    @mrcampi9797 Год назад +3

    Always a pleasure to see Frank !

  • @michaelking7391
    @michaelking7391 Год назад

    Ever since I learned about Sligh as a deck archetype, it's become my favorite way of playing modern. My pet deck, Mono Red Obosh, is made mostly in tribute to Paul Sligh and his genius deck construction back in the day. It'd be so cool to get the deck its famous for!

  • @mlsamson
    @mlsamson Год назад +3

    These gold bordered championship decks were an amazing product imo.
    I really wish they just re-released these along with printing the rest of the world championship decks to celebrate the anniv instead of those crappy Magic30 boosters.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      Welcome to the club! This product was cheap and wonderful for the game!

  • @chasingsunset9801
    @chasingsunset9801 Год назад

    Player here from 94...thank you for showcasing our gameplay from back then

  • @dominicmarucci7642
    @dominicmarucci7642 Год назад +2

    Haven't finished the whole video yet, but wanted to comment that Mogg Fanatic used to be much better with the older rules of this time of damage in the stack. You could send him into combat, put his combat damage on the stack and then sacrifice him to his ability. He was essentially a 2/1.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      I assumed you saw a few minutes later that, in these wild times, we didn't even have the stack yet :) There is no way Frank would have let us do this video with a factual error 😅

  • @MrMarnel
    @MrMarnel Год назад +1

    Loved the video, thanks everyone. Funnily enough, batches as described by Frank here are how Yugioh's chains work (except for the ETB effects) so you can keep that in mind for future collabs with the Yugioh channel.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      Thanks for the tip! That's super interesting :)

    • @MrMarnel
      @MrMarnel Год назад +1

      @@CardmarketMagic It's not one for one of course, for example monsters in Yugioh don't actually take damage so you'll never have that Bolt and Growth interaction, but very very close.
      Early Yugioh was definitely influenced a lot by Magic. For example Summoned Skull is an iconic monster played by Yugi. Visually it resembles an anime'd Lord of the Pit and its Japanese name is "Summoned Demon", written the same as the OG "Summon Demon" typeline in Magic cards before "Creature" became a card type.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      @@MrMarnel I never knew about the summoned skull fact! I'll see if I can make a Short about it :)

  • @tonymontana9221
    @tonymontana9221 Год назад

    Those contents about the history of competitive magic are exactly what we need.

  • @shenirl
    @shenirl Год назад +1

    Back when I first heard of magic when I was a young boy... it was a magical time thx for bringing me back to that time :)

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      You are welcome :) it was nostalgic for us as well (except for Jamin, he is so young 😅)

  • @GawdDaeme
    @GawdDaeme Год назад +2

    Still got 4 Championship decks at home from 2003, was such fun to play friends with the RB Goblins or the GW Daniel Zink decks, still one of my favourites till today!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +2

      We filmed a video with Frank with rhe Goblin Bidding deck! :D but I was playing Madness. Such a fun time

    • @GawdDaeme
      @GawdDaeme Год назад

      @@CardmarketMagic cant wait to see that one !

  • @yesnooo9029
    @yesnooo9029 Год назад

    the first sentence brought me to tears... there really was a time before magic arena and it was amazing. It started for me in what must've been 2000-2002 and my mom bought be a pack of cards that came with a foil thorn elemental and a pc version of the game to finally teach me how to play the game I'd been collecting lmao. Even the duels of the planeswalkers releases take a shit on arena. The video is paused at 0:06 and I really don't think I need to finish it. There was a time before arena - RIP every magic player born 30+ years ago, 2 weeks ago.

  • @SphealTV
    @SphealTV Год назад +1

    I had no clue about the batch. Very much like Yu-Gi-Ohs chains super cool. This was a great episode and trip through mtg history

  • @ilyannattv
    @ilyannattv Год назад

    Watching someone monkey a scroll brings back some seriously nostalgic memories. Loved this episode so much!

  • @Gada101
    @Gada101 Год назад

    I love these "flashback" games from the old days. Please do more of these!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      We filmed 5 of these with Frank in total that we will be releasing in the next months :) if they do well, we'd like to do one for every year

  • @reset6292
    @reset6292 Год назад +1

    I just got done reading that romcom MTG Manga (that was more like a meta retrospective tbh) and its feels nice seeing "familiar" names

  • @thingsthatgobomb
    @thingsthatgobomb Год назад +2

    My monored story started with me finally doing good enough with my kolaghan deck in a fate reforged fnm to win a promo goblin rabblemaster. I remember going home, and making a deck with all these goblin cards, imagining a comical horde of little guys, with cards like roast and hordeling outburst to back them up. I used it against my friends and always had fun making the board, even if i didnt usually win.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      Even without winning that sounds like auch a fun time :)

    • @thingsthatgobomb
      @thingsthatgobomb Год назад +1

      @@CardmarketMagic it really was. Im glad i kept with friday night magic

  • @daftwulli6145
    @daftwulli6145 Год назад +1

    Oh man ball lightning that takes me back. I had a red green deck for a while already, and then lost to a deck using ball lightning. So I decided to build a deck around it. ASlso green red. The idea was to clear the board with fireball, bold and chain lightning to clear thbe way and then play this beauty. It got supported by giant growth and berserk. Just 1 giant growth and 1 berserk could deliver 18 damage, which back then was soo much better then now. Today doing 18 damage in 1 tuirn is pretty common, but back then very few decks could deliver such a blow, and this dexck could do it as early as turn 3, in a time where magic was MUCH slower and most games went well beyond turn 5

  • @TheMeiseN
    @TheMeiseN Год назад +2

    Thank you Ralph! Ur a legend ❤

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +2

      Ralph is such a champ :) we are so happy we got to record these (there are 4 more videos upcoming in the following months)

    • @ralr
      @ralr Год назад +1

      Aw❤ thanks!

    • @TheMeiseN
      @TheMeiseN Год назад

      @@CardmarketMagic That is awesome! Cant wait to see them! Keep up the amazing work guys

    • @TheMeiseN
      @TheMeiseN Год назад

      @@ralr

  • @Chaoslorden
    @Chaoslorden Год назад +3

    I feel old watching this as a history episode haha. 1998 was just yesterday!? I was 20 years old then, playing mono red and mono green.

  • @mrhaftbar
    @mrhaftbar Год назад +1

    Old school Magic? Subscribed!

  • @mutantdrumsticks
    @mutantdrumsticks Год назад +1

    I'm just now getting back into MtG, but I grew up playing it with my parents and siblings. All the cards we played with were from the 80s/90s and we didn't really play an official format, but we played something akin to 4-5 player legacy with no ban list. Between my dad's black gravedigger deck, and my mom's Hurloon Wrangler deck with board wipes, things god pretty heated lol

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      I remember seeing gravedigger as a teenager and it blew my mind how much value it brought! :) good memories

  • @tmille171
    @tmille171 Год назад +1

    I think I was about 10 or 11 when these decks came out. I'd been "playing" Magic for a couple years, and I think by that point we had finally started playing by the correct rules (maybe). One of my friends got the Recurring Nightmare deck and totally destroyed my kitchen table deck with it, and refused to play anything else for weeks. So this is nostalgic for a really annoying time for me, haha.

  • @NoKingButChrist
    @NoKingButChrist Год назад

    Man, I absolutely had this deck in high school. I remember every one of those RecSur cards, art and all.

  • @marceloboavida5458
    @marceloboavida5458 Год назад +1

    I had a chance to play on this decks back in the day, gold era of Magic! Survival it’s a control deck where you control the board with your creatures. On game 3 would be nice to bring the orcs to destroy the lands and stop the fireblast!!!

  • @patmacrotch5611
    @patmacrotch5611 Год назад

    I really enjoy y’alls channel. It’s a breathe of fresh air to have a channel that isn’t just constant negativity. I’ve found a few lately, and it’s much more enjoyable content.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      I'm really happy you enjoy our content :D and I agree! Why would you he negative about a game you love? :)

  • @jameswilhite3340
    @jameswilhite3340 Год назад

    This is so fun! I remember just getting into magic in 7th grade and seeing some of these gold bordered cards and thinking they were so awesome.

  • @AzizidarkReborn
    @AzizidarkReborn Год назад

    I absolutely love that Jackal Pup, a creature that burns you when it's hit, was the Ragavan of its day. This back in time series with hall of famer Dr. Karsten is such a treat.

  • @isildur42
    @isildur42 Год назад

    Ooh, blast from the past! I played with both of those decks when they originally came out. It was such a power leveler for casual players when these decks dropped each year and you could get hard to come by cards for like $15 at your local game store in the town mall such as EB Games or KB Toys or Waldenbooks. Reading up on all the power combos in the latest issue of Inquest, which you had to subscribe to in order to know the value of all the singles each month. And always being on the lookout for that insanely priced $400 Black Lotus at some unsuspecting small town hobby shop.

  • @BouncingTribbles
    @BouncingTribbles Год назад +1

    20:59 I was wondering if you guys would miss this rule change. In 1998 damage goes on the stack. The spike feeder could deal it's damage, killing the orc, and then remove it's counters killing itself and leaving damage on the stack. Mogg fanatic worked the same way, so it could deal combat damage and still sacrifice itself to deal 1 more. I dunno when, but it had changed when I started playing again after taking years off
    -edit- i just saw the explanation of the "batch". It's funny because we didn't play that way. We played the way the stack works now. Everywhere I played in BC and Ontario in the '90s played with the stack, we called it that too

  • @raze667
    @raze667 Год назад +2

    Some great oldschool magic. :D

  • @nathanielreichley4640
    @nathanielreichley4640 Год назад

    I LOVE THESE! I will always enjoy the flashback episodes, whether it's 90s or 10s or whenever. Thanks squad!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      I'm happy you enjoyed it :) we recorded 5 of these with Frank, if they do well, I'd like to do one for every year

  • @WitherFang
    @WitherFang Год назад +1

    This was simply beautiful.

  • @dawn1279
    @dawn1279 Год назад +1

    i love this format! please more of this :D

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      We filmed 5 videos of this with Frank :) I hope you enjoy the next 4 we'll be releasing through the following months

  • @drew8235
    @drew8235 8 месяцев назад

    Loving these videos highlighting decks from way back in the day.

  • @sellingforsale
    @sellingforsale Год назад

    These chamionship decks with matches are the best. I would love you to expand it and take us through Magics historia year by year and comments about the ”best deck” each year (Necrosummer comes to mind) and also which cards that inpacted the game the most. More history and more historic games!

  • @CilantroGamer
    @CilantroGamer Год назад

    This is such an amazing video! I really hope we see a lot more of this kind of thing! And I have to give major Kudos to Jamin for piloting RecSur incredibly well!

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад +1

      I'm happy you enjoyed it! :) we actually filmed 5 of these with Frank and will be releasing them periodically in the next few months

  • @nexviper
    @nexviper Год назад

    Nice to see cards and rules I know and understand.
    Was only ever a casual player but this era was bang the middle of my time playing.

  • @herbhaley5895
    @herbhaley5895 Год назад

    Ahh, the '90's! Those were the days! Every other month I'd pick up The Duelist, or Scry, or Inquest. The local K-Mart had box sets of MTG that included cards, it's where I picked up three Royal Assassins, glass beads that doubled as counters, and a small black, felt bag to hold the beads in. A mile away was the LGS, though I didn't call it that. I called it "the Card Shop." The Card Shop had an endless supply of Fallen Empires and Homeland, and later the Championship decks (the Finkel deck was always sold out). At the time I was playing four player games of MTG with my friends(I ran a 187 deck with the three Royal Assassins, two Nekrataals, and two Avatars of Woe). I didn't get to play the Championship deck I had against my friends, but I did get to use the blanks cards that came with it. They were awesome! they could be tokens, proxies(only if I actually owned the proxied card) or a card I made up that was almost always overpowered. Pretty sure it, like two revised dual lands I had, disappered when I let my son borrow my cards. Ahhh, the '90's!

  • @Baumi
    @Baumi Год назад +1

    This made me think of a video idea for you guys: 90s MtG Commander. Modern rules, old cards.

    • @CardmarketMagic
      @CardmarketMagic  Год назад

      You read our minds! I've been working on plans for this video forever and we are finally filming it in early September when we have Andrea Mengucci over! :D

  • @KKDT
    @KKDT Год назад

    Great video! To see decks like that in play is really unique! Thanks guys!