I've had a lot of Mustangs, but always wanted a brand new Mustang when I could afford it. I didn't want a 2024 because I don't like the tablets on the dash. Bought a 2022 GT Premium brand new and I think it is amazing. The digital instrument cluster is awesome. I want the new 2024 to sell like crazy. I want it to be a success and hope V8s are made forever. It just wasn't for me.
@hollyoakley3032 you are one with great taste 😉i have the exact same. Agree 100% about the DIC and how you can change the colours, ambient look among other things. such a fantastic feature. can't believe Ford ditched it in 24. what colour is yours?
Over a year ago i regrettably sold my '19 GT. And two weeks ago i had a choice to get a '24 GT. I cant say im a fan of the changes. The interior of the '24 hurts my eyes. I want to live life not 100% of the time with a screen in front of my face. But it's not only the screens, it just lacks personality. I now have my '19 GT back and couldn't be happier!
On Michigan roads, try making any climate changes using only the screen's buttons! Impossible. There's certain things in the car that need physical buttons and switches for practicality.
No fog lights 😢 Hideous iPad tablets for dash gauges . Not a fan of the single instead of twin exhaust tips . S550 premium is just a nicer car. Sorry Ford It looks good not great to me!
Giving them credit for the absolute bare minimum is not the way. At the end of the day performance isn't better stock and its locked down. If you wanna mod it isn't the ideal car to get.
@@themidnighttavern6784no. It’s not faster. It’s “more powerful” you need to pay more attention to why they use certain words in marketing. Better handling is also doubtful due to an increase in weight. Don’t buy into bad marketing jargon man. There is a reason they said most powerful mustang and not fastest. The 2018+ already have better 0-60 times and better quarter mile times by quite a bit.
@@themidnighttavern6784 who has said anything about the dark horse???? Like what are you saying. Everyone here is talking about the GT and so is the video yet here you are slobbing on fords 6 incher talking about the dArK hOrSe that’s slower than a cheaper gt350. Gtfo clown . Motor trend recorded a 4.3 for the s650 GT. This is literally the same as the 2018* which puts down 4.4 and 4.3 depending on packages etc. let me just go compare the 2024 dark horse that’s 70k to a 37k 2018 GT BAHAHAHAHA
There's two key differences. 1) The S550 is better-looking. 2) The S550 is faster. Actually three. 3) The S550 is less expensive. Edit: Thank you for keeping 💯. Just became my main option for ordering parts.
But independent t sting is proving that the s650 isn’t faster. There’s some sort of torque limiting nanny that is poo-pooing performance out the box. Until the aftermarket tuning industry unfucks the factory pcm, this thing is a dud.
I’ve owned a 2016 Challenger SRT 392 and a 2018 Widebody Hellcat Challenger. Both are gone and I currently own a 2017 Magnetic S550 which I’m in love with. Got it for a great price on low miles. Just put on a Corsa Sport exhaust.
I’ve had both and, by far, we love the 24. Admittedly we did get a high end premium car but with what we got in it we’re more pleased with the new S650. I do think that at $62,000 retail it should have had active exhaust and you would have thought they would have found a way to make the Recaro seats with power to them. The transmission is smoother in shifts and feels more natural as to the distance between shifts when not manually shifting it. The car has more sound insulation and isn’t as loud inside but still able to hear that great exhaust note inherent to the Ford Mustang GT.
Personally I prefer the base model small screen...I'm driving a car, not watching a movie, or playing a video game...to me the huge screens are an unnecessary distraction
I’m in New Zealand and have owned many different V8s over the years including Chevrolet and Dodge, still a Mustang guy at heart and recently purchased a 2023 GTCS . Over here quite a reasonable number of muscle car owners only use these cars as weekenders, not their main transport. For that reason it will be interesting to see the uptake of the s650 because of what i see and have had feedback that it looks less of a connection to the original Mustangs, especially the dash set up and severe reverse angle rear end. I do however wish it well for continued future production😊
That's what's so great about mustangs there's a body style for everyone and I believe I like them all well except maybe the sn95 well I didn't hate it but I didn't love it either
I think they definitely took several steps back , the inside of the new one is terrible. Plus complicating everything with the two air boxes is just dumb . It’s not a bad car , but not for me , I’m very happy with my 2019 pp2 , hope all is good Justin 🤟
@cormaro1376 but it's Slower by 2 or 3 tenths so did it really give more power? It certainly didn't require twin TB that was just to make tuning harder...
@ShawnGilbert1967 no it didn't but was to help with aftermarket power for sure, it's just been bog down from the factory rn since it's just released , they will keep working on it and do updates and shit
@cormaro1376 even on whipples kit for it they go to 1 throttle body and split to 2 so the dual MAF sensors are happy...dual throttle bodies weren't remotely required for this power level or even 800hp..just a bigger single BUT they wanted to make it HARDER to modify and tune...every single thing on this car is designed to make it harder to modify while simultaneously make it slower than the previous gen with supposedly 20 less HP......but that's what happens with no competition but C8...just toss some Tesla screens in call it a day,.SAY we made more power but actually slower, then charge MORE for it.... Its nuts honestly
After having a '12 GT track s197, '18 GT s550, then going to put a deposit down on a '24 s650 then getting that deposit back after finding out so much about the s650....I'll stick to my s550. The interior is far superior in the s550. Exterior...well, nuff said. I thought I liked the s650 at first sight. Dropped a deposit down on it. Was getting ready to start returning my s550 to stock to hand it in. Then the videos started, and info started to flow. Got my deposit back a week later. Just so happened 3 other people that very same day before me came to get their deposits back too and 2 others earlier in the week lol.
I probably cant be called 100% neutral (owning a black 2019 Bullitt) but in my opinion the S550 is the better looking one of the two. I just love the “Bad ass” looks and the quad pipes, double boble dash, vented hood - everything actually 😀😎
Untill they make the Tremec TR-6060 manual transmission the default manual transmission for the Mustang GT the automatic is the only choice. I think the new mustang with the performance pack with the automatic transmission is a great car with the performance they have squeezed out of the 5.0 pretty amazing. 😎🇦🇺👍
I’m not a Mustang guy but I’ve always respected the Mustang and imo the S550 is better in every way: front, rear, and interior. Thr new coyote has yet to prove itself so i can’t speak on the engine but imo the new Mustang has too much tech and screens and overall in terms of design it took a step backwards.
The only I like about the S650 is the front end. It does give that futuristic look and is a little more aggressive. Other than that, I prefer S550 for everything else. The rear end on S650 looks like it got folded by someone sitting on it. Good luck with more tech/electronic interior. In the mean time, I will continue to enjoy my 2022 GT/CS with PP.
I have a s650 and im 19, same price as 2018+ models woth less mileage and in my opinion the 2024 is a way better option just due to the interior bieng sooo driver based and so many small things you can add im sure there will be a crazy aftermarket support for the 2024
The S550 is one the greatest Mustangs ever built. I just don’t feel it with the S650. I want Mustang to do well but they didn’t produce something that I want to buy. Maybe the next model will be for me. I’ll always keep my 2018 GT Premium 10R80 Shadow Black blacked out package with the digital dash.
Picking my 24 gt up right now. Coming from an 18 gt per pkg 10speed. The new 10 speed is so much better tuned. Its much smoother in shifts no more clunkyness. Thats the fisrt thing I immediately noticed
I’m personally GLAD the look of the 2018-2023 is ditched, 2015 was super nice until, that headlight and whole front end change that simply ruined the car’s looks
I wish they would've just built off of the digital screen they had. They make all these nice changes to the interior that add to its sleekness and quality and then ruin it by putting a giant ipad in front of your face. The other screen looks fine but the new gauge screen kinda ruins it for both of them in my opinion.
The 24 mustang is nice but I'm not a big fan of the new dash and I think the front end of the S550 is quite a bit more aggressive than the S650 the new mustang to me is more like a refresh
You can totally get a base quad exhaust AND rear black decklid on the S650. THAT particular Mustang just didn't have it. So I don't think it was a fair comparison...
The s650 is not bad. But that dash sucks compared to the s550. The front bumper would look better without the black strip under the grille. The s550 definitely looks better.
I like the s650, I just can't justify the price for a base model car. Gone are the days of having the mustang be the affordable fun car. Sure inflation yada yada, but it's not all that. The more people continue to take these prices on the chin the more they will keep charging.
Still prefer the s550... especially the premium version (digital dash, center stack touch screen, aviation style toggle switches and center gauges between the vents in the performance pack). I think it has just enough "tech" and I love the retro design a lot more, as it "feels" more like a Mustang. Definitely not enough change for me to switch from my 2019 to a 2024. As far as outside appearance, the only thing I like a little more about the s650 is the rear. Overall, I feel like the changes from s550 to s650 are more of a facelift than a whole new generation. There is more difference between the 2009 to 2011 s197 (in my opinion) than between these two. Having said that, I am glad the Mustang is still around and that the Mustang name lives on.
I wouldn't sell my S550 for one. If I was making a decision on a brand new 2024 American V8 it'd be a Challenger. I've never liked the 6gen Camaro because of the quarter window and the S550 is peak Mustang. And while the 6th gen Camaro is actual better chassis than any Challenger or mustang, the 14-15 is peak design but a shitty car. The S650 feels like they just made arbitrary changes to make a S550 look futuristic and shat that out. The Challenger hasn't changed so at the very least, it still looks good.
I like the interior look and feel of the 550. I like old and new school. The whole touch screen thing isn’t my style. The only thing I like about the s650 is the more raised front end. It looks more aggressive to me
I felt the same at first but looking more at the s650 for a while the s550 starting to look outdated a little compared to the s650 lol. The same way the sn95 started looking outdated compared to the new edge mustangs in the early 2000s
With my age, and being my first car was a '67 Mustang, I'd have to say I prefer the S550. Not that I hate the 2024 by any means, just that there is more iconic resemblance to original old school which just means something to me and not necessarily everyone else:-) Nice video of having them side by side and taking us through, thanks for sharing!
@@L42776 Yah … for sure. The Gen 3 front end refresh so such a floo even Ford started with the Gen 2 front end for the only actual attractive S550s - GT350 and GT500. The 2018 refresh was a major design flop. The only thing that saved them was the A10 and Gen 3 5.0.
The s650 grille with that gloss black lipstick is absolutely hideous. Idk who approved that gloss black nonsense. Also the added length makes the s650 look a bit weird. And the added weight is a real bummer. Really disappointing tbh. Ill stick with my 2015 GT for now.
@@SofaKingQuick we don’t get any other N/A V8’s, sure it’s not as fast as the F82 M4 but it certainly sounds better and that smile you get is worth it everytime!
Glad to see somebody doing these comparisons, and not just jumping on the "new car is better" train just to sell parts, or because their channel lives off Ford. Nice video. I'd like to see the two cars race in a future video.
The 650 is growing on me, but I think appearance wise I still have to choose the 550. Maybe with some aftermarket changes to the headlights, taillights, and hood, I would give the 650 a chance
S650 looks great…but the lack of competition is obvious. Part of me is glad since I’m way too deep into my 2020 to consider trading it in but it’s still a pretty lame effort.
I'll stick with my 2017 Gt premium pp. Just me but I think it has the best looking front and I like my gauge set up. I'm not against screens (center mounted and I wish mine was better) but they should integrate them better as opposed to making it look like they mounted an iPad. Up Rear lower valance looks terrible , tho, jutting out that far...
I don’t find anything objectionable with the S650, except I am probably too old to figure out the touch screens, but that’s my problem. My 2018 GT premium convertible, performance pack, 10 speed, magna ride , active exhaust, forged wheels is such a great car I don’t see anything in the new S650 that would make me want to trade in and cough up another $50,000. They are both great cars. And I LOVE MY 2018 !!!
I think the s650 looks good! Definitely something to get used to. In my opinion I think the s550 looks more aggressive (15-17). The 18-23 looks less aggressive
I agree 100%. With the 2018 refresh it lost some of its aggressive looks in fact the 2024 front end remind me more of the 15-17 front end and the hood reminds me of the 10-12 S197 hood.
I think it’s cleaver how they’ve hidden the bumper inside the grill of the 650. In previous generations designers had to work around that bumper line, now they’re free to design whatever they want and I think they’ve done a great job.
Nice comparison, the best one yet. AMR since you have both cars can you comment if the 650 has better NVH(quieter or same) and ride comfort than the 550? They are both nice cars. The S650 looks cleaner but less meaner...lol! I do like the double vents on the S550. The new tech is great and in keeping with the times, however that tacked on tablet look is a BUMMER; a new dual cowl dash design with the new tech would have nailed it IMHO. I like the new seats of the 650 base car. I have a 2018 which was paid off 2.5 years ago and it has 36,000 miles, it is tempting to trade it for a new one but NOT having car payments is a huge PLUS. So if you are. happy with your 550, have no car payments....hang on to it.
Just bought an S550 two weeks ago. New one’s not different enough to get raped by dealer mark ups! I got one used with 10k miles lowered and a $2k exhaust already installed. And tinted windows. Win!
Also just got a used s550-a certified pre-owned Mach 1 with 12k miles, warranty through 100k on the powertrain from Ford. I think the s550s look better, especially the back end.
I cringe when people say the 19-23 mustangs look good. Those are ugly in the front, they look like fish faced bass 😑. The new stangs are less agressive because its more square faced like the old mustangs😁
I have a 2019, overall I favor that over the 2024, I have the electronic gauges and the larger screen, I prefer that over the newer setup. The only thing i favor over the 2019 would be the seats, although farily comfortable, they could be better
Makes me very glad I bought a new base ‘22 this year! I hated the S650’s screens since the introduction, and I think exterior styling took a step back. Single exhaust on base cars?! And the slight power increase is negated by the weight gain. I’m a happy camper, even with a tiny 4” screen.
i love how you shoot it straight as an arrow with the new mustang. for me, i dont like the 24 at all. tesla interior, non tunable, ugly looks, overweight, and overpriced. the s550 looks like a catfish like everyone said the camaro had. im not a fan of the s550, wife had one, i didnt like it. doesnt feel like a mustang at all. the 11-14s look and sound more aggressive. those were retro styles and had the mean look a mustang is supposed to have. i personally liked the fogs on the s197, it was a point to distinguish a gt over a v6 and everyone knew it was a mustang. the 15 and up and 24 nobody will know its a mustang at night other than being behind it but coming at ya at night you wont know. for me, ill keep my 13gt, its faster, better looking, and lighter.
Can’t believe I’m seeing a brand new mustang with dual exhaust and not quads 😂. They really wanted to go base on the base haha. Nothing will overcome that for me. You just can’t go backwards like that. The new mustang is cool but going backwards in any aspect just isn’t good even though I’d never get the base GT especially going from a pp2 it’s either gotta be a dark horse with the handling pack for me or nothing.
If I could purchase my ‘06 GT Premium all over again… Hands down winner. I do not like the twin tablet dash. I’m a tech guy, but, I want analog gauges in my Mustang.
05-09 styling was on point with how a Mustang should look. Never cared much for these rounded looking ones ever since they debuted. Personally I’d fire the Ford design team.
Everyone keeps talking about the "new high tech interior" - it is not, they literally slapped 2 screens to the dash and forgot all about the rest of the interior. The over all control panel is 20+ years old. The steering wheel is absolutely garbage, it reminds me of an early 2000s model, 2 stalks (really!!!), gigantic buttons! HEY WE GOT 2 BIG SCREENS! forget about all the other garbage.
Justin, great review. I'm still waiting for my loaded 24 GT. Prem. I am not entirely sold on the dash yet but time will tell. Myself I am coming from a 2020GT and it will take some getting used to before I comment.
Performance wise - it makes zero sense to buy a 2024 (even the darkhorse). Features, the S650 has a couple of perks...but the gimmick crap kind of negates the "perks". Between the Escape-ev....er...I mean...Mach-E and then this? I feel like Ford is taking the lazy way out these days.
I got a good look at a HP dark horse, inside, underneath, pulled off panels, installed and the loose parts, It looks like a s550 remastered. I do feel it needs more hard controls. The steering controls are great but having to jump around the center screen for simple tasks...and the few buttons that are there feel like a old cheap membrane keyboard covered with one of those one piece rubber dust protectors. The over all styling is a bit Mach E with a splash of mustang II added for the interior. A few things seems off but it's a nice refresh. After putting miles on it, I could not tell a difference between it and a Mach 1 other than how the the steering wheel felt, mixed feels about it too. The few nice upgrades it has over the S550 are probably going to be near direct bolt-ons. If I had a base GT or a pp1 it's a nice upgrade with a refresh. Have a Shelby or Mach 1... Wait till this model gets a refresh.
The S650 is great in a lot of ways, BUT... the S550 is the sexier of the 2 cars. The curves of the S550 give it a better look, IMO, than the S650. It will be interesting to put the 2 on a track and see which one is quicker- base to base. Does the added weight offset the added HP in the 2024 or is it quicker? I'm also an old-school guy. The new stuff is nice, but the S550 is what I'd rather be driving.
Great detailed helpful review. My opinion might well be biased as a 22 GT Premium 10spd with App Pgk and 401A added but the 24 is the farthest away from a Stang look as it can get. It looks bulky, heavy and too MOPAR looking. That front end reminds me of current Chargers, who needs another "Police" looking car on the streets? The interior with the 2 big screen doesn't look practical especially when one is on the road and need to change modes on the engine and steering wheel for ex. Also, that 60's interior gauges and colour cluster changes is one of the best thing Ford ever done for the last 2 gens, not having that in 24 is a negative. It's all subjective of course we all have our opinions but my god I love my 22 GT and the quad active exhaust. Cheers.
Not a big fan of those screens. Is lazy designing. Just put 2 tablets and that's it. Doesn't look sporty, looks generic. Like any other car out there. I like digital displays but I think they should have done something similar to the s550 digital display.
As a mustang gt owner Ford flopped on this new gen coyote hard bro 😢 power went down plus it dosent feel nor look like a mustang they could’ve done better in my opinion I’ll stick to my s550 instead of dropping 70k for a less torquey car
I might be the only person with this opinion don’t know if anyone else to but I prefer the 1st gen s550 2015-2017 body style before they dropped the nose and change the taillights
I do too. Imo 15-17 is the ideal one to mod they have the better manual gearing if you're a stick guy and they didn't have the shift fork issues like the later ones. The gen 2 is arguably one of the best to boost as well.
The rear end of the s650 just isn’t for me… it’s too angular I think. Also the massive screen on the dash isn’t as appealing to me. Still a great car, but I still intend to get a s550 within the next couple months
I was not aware of the switch to an electric parking brake as opposed to just the manual handle, that's annoying. I guess you gotta have the performance package to get a handle back. The black plastic rear lower valance is something that I guarantee you will not age well, because of how it is positioned higher up in more direct sunlight. If any of you guys remember the '10-12 rear lower valance that was also black plastic you know it only takes about 5 years in the sun for it to start losing its color and starting to look pretty bad. The '13-'23s didn't have to worry about that much with their body color, painted valances. Just something to note. And I really miss the dual cowls and analog buttons. To me the Mustang is a raw, driver's car by nature and I feel a small bit of that attitude is lost with so many touchscreens. Particularly the aircraft-looking toggle switches found on the premium S550, I think its fair to say most people really liked those, A touscreen interface is never a good replacement for a well put together button or trigger to me. If I am honest this interior refresh is the only one on a Mustang that ever felt like somewhat of a downgrade from the old one to me. It's still a great car, and a good interior, don't get me wrong. All that said to me the S650 is a hit, and I intend on buying one in a few years but I do miss a thing or two about past interiors.
The touch screen is ugly it's like ford stuck two tablets in the dash and called it a day. Plus no physical buttons. I hate how everything is going buttonless if those screens go out you have no way of knowing or using anything.
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I absolutely love the s650 looks amazing, had an 02’ gt it’s very reminiscent of that
I like the s550. s550 just looks the part. I am also not a fan of the tacked on look of the two monitors for a dash. just looks cheep and superficial.
The new car is a piece of crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've had a lot of Mustangs, but always wanted a brand new Mustang when I could afford it. I didn't want a 2024 because I don't like the tablets on the dash. Bought a 2022 GT Premium brand new and I think it is amazing. The digital instrument cluster is awesome. I want the new 2024 to sell like crazy. I want it to be a success and hope V8s are made forever. It just wasn't for me.
@hollyoakley3032 you are one with great taste 😉i have the exact same. Agree 100% about the DIC and how you can change the colours, ambient look among other things. such a fantastic feature. can't believe Ford ditched it in 24. what colour is yours?
Thanks for watching, both of you! -Zach
Agreed I like the s550 gen better the only thing I like abt the new gen mustang is the screen and rev key
@@ajstang22 Shadow black
@@Bhoakley very nice, i would have gone for that as well had they not had the rapid red.
Over a year ago i regrettably sold my '19 GT. And two weeks ago i had a choice to get a '24 GT. I cant say im a fan of the changes. The interior of the '24 hurts my eyes. I want to live life not 100% of the time with a screen in front of my face. But it's not only the screens, it just lacks personality.
I now have my '19 GT back and couldn't be happier!
F*ck yes bro! I'm loving my gt350. Looking to add a s550 gt to the collection. Love this body style
@@shanefowler9443ha that’s what I’m getting next a 350 😏
On Michigan roads, try making any climate changes using only the screen's buttons! Impossible. There's certain things in the car that need physical buttons and switches for practicality.
@@HobowithaFesti do it bro you will not regret it!
No fog lights 😢 Hideous iPad tablets for dash gauges . Not a fan of the single instead of twin exhaust tips . S550 premium is just a nicer car. Sorry Ford It looks good not great to me!
I see so much S650 hate but can we just appreciate ford for keeping mustangs & the iconic 5.0 Alive.
Giving them credit for the absolute bare minimum is not the way. At the end of the day performance isn't better stock and its locked down. If you wanna mod it isn't the ideal car to get.
@@midnight347It's still an improvement, it's faster, better handling, better looking etc.
@@themidnighttavern6784no. It’s not faster. It’s “more powerful” you need to pay more attention to why they use certain words in marketing. Better handling is also doubtful due to an increase in weight. Don’t buy into bad marketing jargon man. There is a reason they said most powerful mustang and not fastest. The 2018+ already have better 0-60 times and better quarter mile times by quite a bit.
@@eliteghost0001 Motor trend recorded a 3.7 0-60 time on the s650 DH.
@@themidnighttavern6784 who has said anything about the dark horse???? Like what are you saying. Everyone here is talking about the GT and so is the video yet here you are slobbing on fords 6 incher talking about the dArK hOrSe that’s slower than a cheaper gt350. Gtfo clown . Motor trend recorded a 4.3 for the s650 GT. This is literally the same as the 2018* which puts down 4.4 and 4.3 depending on packages etc. let me just go compare the 2024 dark horse that’s 70k to a 37k 2018 GT BAHAHAHAHA
There's two key differences. 1) The S550 is better-looking. 2) The S550 is faster. Actually three. 3) The S550 is less expensive.
Edit: Thank you for keeping 💯. Just became my main option for ordering parts.
18-23 base Mustang front end is horrendous
S650 grille isn’t ideal but at least it doesn’t have those terrible headlights
But independent t sting is proving that the s650 isn’t faster. There’s some sort of torque limiting nanny that is poo-pooing performance out the box. Until the aftermarket tuning industry unfucks the factory pcm, this thing is a dud.
A10 to A10 they are wash. The extra power is offset by the increase in weight.
@@LeaveItToBeanersupercharger came out already. Boost up to 800 hp
@@LeaveItToBeanerI bought a dark horse for 81k I’m only 21 my car is gonna be iconic
I’ve owned a 2016 Challenger SRT 392 and a 2018 Widebody Hellcat Challenger. Both are gone and I currently own a 2017 Magnetic S550 which I’m in love with. Got it for a great price on low miles. Just put on a Corsa Sport exhaust.
Thanks for watching! -Zach
I’ve had both and, by far, we love the 24. Admittedly we did get a high end premium car but with what we got in it we’re more pleased with the new S650. I do think that at $62,000 retail it should have had active exhaust and you would have thought they would have found a way to make the Recaro seats with power to them. The transmission is smoother in shifts and feels more natural as to the distance between shifts when not manually shifting it. The car has more sound insulation and isn’t as loud inside but still able to hear that great exhaust note inherent to the Ford Mustang GT.
Personally I prefer the base model small screen...I'm driving a car, not watching a movie, or playing a video game...to me the huge screens are an unnecessary distraction
I’m in New Zealand and have owned many different V8s over the years including Chevrolet and Dodge, still a Mustang guy at heart and recently purchased a 2023 GTCS .
Over here quite a reasonable number of muscle car owners only use these cars as weekenders, not their main transport.
For that reason it will be interesting to see the uptake of the s650 because of what i see and have had feedback that it looks less of a connection to the original Mustangs, especially the dash set up and severe reverse angle rear end.
I do however wish it well for continued future production😊
The S650 locks really good but the improvement is not than big compare whit the increase price. I will keep my 2020 Mustang GT!
That's what's so great about mustangs there's a body style for everyone and I believe I like them all well except maybe the sn95 well I didn't hate it but I didn't love it either
Design wise the S550 imo has more of a timeless design, which still looks good af.
I think they definitely took several steps back , the inside of the new one is terrible. Plus complicating everything with the two air boxes is just dumb . It’s not a bad car , but not for me , I’m very happy with my 2019 pp2 , hope all is good Justin 🤟
Not really complicating it just give it more power , I thought the dual air box was a good idea
Love my 2019 Velocity blue PP2
@cormaro1376 but it's Slower by 2 or 3 tenths so did it really give more power? It certainly didn't require twin TB that was just to make tuning harder...
@ShawnGilbert1967 no it didn't but was to help with aftermarket power for sure, it's just been bog down from the factory rn since it's just released , they will keep working on it and do updates and shit
@cormaro1376 even on whipples kit for it they go to 1 throttle body and split to 2 so the dual MAF sensors are happy...dual throttle bodies weren't remotely required for this power level or even 800hp..just a bigger single BUT they wanted to make it HARDER to modify and tune...every single thing on this car is designed to make it harder to modify while simultaneously make it slower than the previous gen with supposedly 20 less HP......but that's what happens with no competition but C8...just toss some Tesla screens in call it a day,.SAY we made more power but actually slower, then charge MORE for it....
Its nuts honestly
After having a '12 GT track s197, '18 GT s550, then going to put a deposit down on a '24 s650 then getting that deposit back after finding out so much about the s650....I'll stick to my s550. The interior is far superior in the s550. Exterior...well, nuff said. I thought I liked the s650 at first sight. Dropped a deposit down on it. Was getting ready to start returning my s550 to stock to hand it in. Then the videos started, and info started to flow. Got my deposit back a week later. Just so happened 3 other people that very same day before me came to get their deposits back too and 2 others earlier in the week lol.
I probably cant be called 100% neutral (owning a black 2019 Bullitt) but in my opinion the S550 is the better looking one of the two. I just love the “Bad ass” looks and the quad pipes, double boble dash, vented hood - everything actually 😀😎
From certain perspectives, the S650 looks way more aggressive. The big fail is no fog lights.
Untill they make the Tremec TR-6060 manual transmission the default manual transmission for the Mustang GT the automatic is the only choice.
I think the new mustang with the performance pack with the automatic transmission is a great car with the performance they have squeezed out of the 5.0 pretty amazing.
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Nice to see you Justin!
I’m not a Mustang guy but I’ve always respected the Mustang and imo the S550 is better in every way: front, rear, and interior. Thr new coyote has yet to prove itself so i can’t speak on the engine but imo the new Mustang has too much tech and screens and overall in terms of design it took a step backwards.
The only I like about the S650 is the front end. It does give that futuristic look and is a little more aggressive. Other than that, I prefer S550 for everything else. The rear end on S650 looks like it got folded by someone sitting on it. Good luck with more tech/electronic interior. In the mean time, I will continue to enjoy my 2022 GT/CS with PP.
Thanks for watching! -Zach
I have a s650 and im 19, same price as 2018+ models woth less mileage and in my opinion the 2024 is a way better option just due to the interior bieng sooo driver based and so many small things you can add im sure there will be a crazy aftermarket support for the 2024
The S550 is one the greatest Mustangs ever built. I just don’t feel it with the S650. I want Mustang to do well but they didn’t produce something that I want to buy. Maybe the next model will be for me. I’ll always keep my 2018 GT Premium 10R80 Shadow Black blacked out package with the digital dash.
It's a refresh.
Am I the only one that love and will miss actual gauges?
I'm sure you and MANY other people will miss the anolog gauges! -Zach
@matt197gt - No, you are not the only one.
Need more bright trim. Blacked out stuff fades into the background.
Picking my 24 gt up right now. Coming from an 18 gt per pkg 10speed. The new 10 speed is so much better tuned. Its much smoother in shifts no more clunkyness. Thats the fisrt thing I immediately noticed
I’m personally GLAD the look of the 2018-2023 is ditched, 2015 was super nice until, that headlight and whole front end change that simply ruined the car’s looks
Best: 2008
I wish they would've just built off of the digital screen they had. They make all these nice changes to the interior that add to its sleekness and quality and then ruin it by putting a giant ipad in front of your face. The other screen looks fine but the new gauge screen kinda ruins it for both of them in my opinion.
Tailights look like a Mach E. Screens? Competing with Tesla?
It’s the same chassis. Ford still ripping customers off. Keep your S550..
The 24 mustang is nice but I'm not a big fan of the new dash and I think the front end of the S550 is quite a bit more aggressive than the S650 the new mustang to me is more like a refresh
You can totally get a base quad exhaust
AND rear black decklid on the S650.
THAT particular Mustang just didn't
have it. So I don't think it was a fair
comparison...
On the base model if you opt for an active exhaust only, I believe. -Zach
Any chance y’all could do late s197 compared to s650?
If only the s650 didnt have a bland interior of digital gauge on rectangle screens.
S550 wins both interior and exterior. And gt350 is rock.
Pretty much identical dyno numbers as well with a decent price bump for the s650. I think the s550 is a better buy for the $
Anyone know if the added height equals slightly more headroom in the rear?!
The s650 is not bad. But that dash sucks compared to the s550. The front bumper would look better without the black strip under the grille. The s550 definitely looks better.
I like the s650, I just can't justify the price for a base model car. Gone are the days of having the mustang be the affordable fun car. Sure inflation yada yada, but it's not all that. The more people continue to take these prices on the chin the more they will keep charging.
The new 5.0 looks like a cross over camaro
The question is not “is it enough to be the new gen mustang?” It is “is it enough to be twice the cost of the old gen mustang?”
Still prefer the s550... especially the premium version (digital dash, center stack touch screen, aviation style toggle switches and center gauges between the vents in the performance pack). I think it has just enough "tech" and I love the retro design a lot more, as it "feels" more like a Mustang. Definitely not enough change for me to switch from my 2019 to a 2024. As far as outside appearance, the only thing I like a little more about the s650 is the rear. Overall, I feel like the changes from s550 to s650 are more of a facelift than a whole new generation. There is more difference between the 2009 to 2011 s197 (in my opinion) than between these two. Having said that, I am glad the Mustang is still around and that the Mustang name lives on.
I wouldn't sell my S550 for one. If I was making a decision on a brand new 2024 American V8 it'd be a Challenger. I've never liked the 6gen Camaro because of the quarter window and the S550 is peak Mustang. And while the 6th gen Camaro is actual better chassis than any Challenger or mustang, the 14-15 is peak design but a shitty car. The S650 feels like they just made arbitrary changes to make a S550 look futuristic and shat that out. The Challenger hasn't changed so at the very least, it still looks good.
I'm keeping my s550 FOLKS! I think FORD needs to rethink the dash design & headlights for starters!
I really love mustang but the new one ist not aggressive and good enough for me.
Stop complaining they do it because it's easier stop asking 4 stuff we don't need WAkUP
Seeing that manual, made me 👍 up this video 🤝
Thanks for watching! -Zach
I like the interior look and feel of the 550. I like old and new school. The whole touch screen thing isn’t my style. The only thing I like about the s650 is the more raised front end. It looks more aggressive to me
Incremental update.
So dope
I still think the 15-17 S550 looks the best
True
All it’s missing is a 10 speed transmission
Hard to beat that first S550 front end, that's for sure! Thanks for watching! -Zach
@@GloomToon Yeah it’s missing the 12:1 GDI 5.0 and the 10 speed.
But that doesn’t change the fact the 18-up front end sucks.
Reason why I got the Mach 1 since I miss the 15-17 front end.
I don’t hate the new s650, I just still prefer the s550. I think it’s one the best looking cars ever made.
Debatable but I can’t argue that it’s a damn good looking car, I do own one myself 😁
True, I am keeping my 2015 for now.
except interiror
The s550’s design still looks modern for it’s age. You really won’t mistake it for an old car. Ford did well on it.
I felt the same at first but looking more at the s650 for a while the s550 starting to look outdated a little compared to the s650 lol. The same way the sn95 started looking outdated compared to the new edge mustangs in the early 2000s
With my age, and being my first car was a '67 Mustang, I'd have to say I prefer the S550. Not that I hate the 2024 by any means, just that there is more iconic resemblance to original old school which just means something to me and not necessarily everyone else:-) Nice video of having them side by side and taking us through, thanks for sharing!
18-up Mustang refresh was 💩
The GT350 and GT500s look great.
Anything with those horrendous 18-up headlights is notches down in my book
@@BC08nah
@@BC0818+ front end looks great what are you saying lol. Not to mention the performance upgrades
@@L42776 Yah … for sure. The Gen 3 front end refresh so such a floo even Ford started with the Gen 2 front end for the only actual attractive S550s - GT350 and GT500.
The 2018 refresh was a major design flop.
The only thing that saved them was the A10 and Gen 3 5.0.
@@hUrFaH54 18 front end is legit terrible, what are you taking about?
The s650 grille with that gloss black lipstick is absolutely hideous. Idk who approved that gloss black nonsense. Also the added length makes the s650 look a bit weird. And the added weight is a real bummer. Really disappointing tbh. Ill stick with my 2015 GT for now.
So happy Ford brought the Mustang to the UK, just an amazing car, blows everything else away
What's out there ?
@@jayaguilar9775 as in car's in the UK that compete?
If by everything you mean hardly anything, you’re right.
@@SofaKingQuick we don’t get any other N/A V8’s, sure it’s not as fast as the F82 M4 but it certainly sounds better and that smile you get is worth it everytime!
Sure is 😁
Glad to see somebody doing these comparisons, and not just jumping on the "new car is better" train just to sell parts, or because their channel lives off Ford. Nice video. I'd like to see the two cars race in a future video.
S650 is DOA, it'll lose by a car or more
Thanks fgj- we're trying to be as objective as possible here with the new car. -Justin
@@americanmuscleand we all appreciate that.
The 650 is growing on me, but I think appearance wise I still have to choose the 550. Maybe with some aftermarket changes to the headlights, taillights, and hood, I would give the 650 a chance
Agreed!! Let’s see what the A/M industry does with this platform.
S650 looks great…but the lack of competition is obvious. Part of me is glad since I’m way too deep into my 2020 to consider trading it in but it’s still a pretty lame effort.
Good point
I'll stick with my 2017 Gt premium pp. Just me but I think it has the best looking front and I like my gauge set up. I'm not against screens (center mounted and I wish mine was better) but they should integrate them better as opposed to making it look like they mounted an iPad. Up
Rear lower valance looks terrible , tho, jutting out that far...
Its just a facelift let's be real here. Ford loves doing this, feels like a SN95 to New edge all over again
I don’t find anything objectionable with the S650, except I am probably too old to figure out the touch screens, but that’s my problem. My 2018 GT premium convertible, performance pack, 10 speed, magna ride , active exhaust, forged wheels is such a great car I don’t see anything in the new S650 that would make me want to trade in and cough up another $50,000. They are both great cars. And I LOVE MY 2018 !!!
I think the s650 looks good! Definitely something to get used to. In my opinion I think the s550 looks more aggressive (15-17). The 18-23 looks less aggressive
I agree 100%. With the 2018 refresh it lost some of its aggressive looks in fact the 2024 front end remind me more of the 15-17 front end and the hood reminds me of the 10-12 S197 hood.
I think it’s cleaver how they’ve hidden the bumper inside the grill of the 650. In previous generations designers had to work around that bumper line, now they’re free to design whatever they want and I think they’ve done a great job.
Just a reminder! Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Every body has a right to their opinion! I like S650 overall!
The 2024's are sharp looking cars - we're def excited to see what kinda parts come out of them!! -Zach
'15-17 s550 is still the best. Ford really went all out when they designed it for their 50 year Mustang anniversary
Nice comparison, the best one yet. AMR since you have both cars can you comment if the 650 has better NVH(quieter or same) and ride comfort than the 550? They are both nice cars. The S650 looks cleaner but less meaner...lol! I do like the double vents on the S550. The new tech is great and in keeping with the times, however that tacked on tablet look is a BUMMER; a new dual cowl dash design with the new tech would have nailed it IMHO. I like the new seats of the 650 base car. I have a 2018 which was paid off 2.5 years ago and it has 36,000 miles, it is tempting to trade it for a new one but NOT having car payments is a huge PLUS. So if you are. happy with your 550, have no car payments....hang on to it.
Thank you so much, we're glad you enjoyed it! -Justin
S550 all day
Old is better :D s197 and s550 are golden.
Just bought an S550 two weeks ago. New one’s not different enough to get raped by dealer mark ups! I got one used with 10k miles lowered and a $2k exhaust already installed. And tinted windows. Win!
Also just got a used s550-a certified pre-owned Mach 1 with 12k miles, warranty through 100k on the powertrain from Ford. I think the s550s look better, especially the back end.
I cringe when people say the 19-23 mustangs look good. Those are ugly in the front, they look like fish faced bass 😑. The new stangs are less agressive because its more square faced like the old mustangs😁
I have a 2019, overall I favor that over the 2024, I have the electronic gauges and the larger screen, I prefer that over the newer setup. The only thing i favor over the 2019 would be the seats, although farily comfortable, they could be better
I have the same year and I feel the same
Same here, same exact thing,@@gotdamnjimi9758
2013-2014 Mustang is what I would choose.
Especially that GT500 with the 5.8L engine 😎
The S650 looks great! Cant wait until ours arrive!
Thanks for watching! -Zach
I do like that the 650 is something new to look at and I do like the rear but I feel like the 550 has stood the test of time with its design.
The 550 has definitely aged incredibly well! I still haven’t tired of looking at the 550 body!
Makes me very glad I bought a new base ‘22 this year! I hated the S650’s screens since the introduction, and I think exterior styling took a step back. Single exhaust on base cars?! And the slight power increase is negated by the weight gain. I’m a happy camper, even with a tiny 4” screen.
Cope
@@candy_paintCoping just fine with a better car
Coming from a 2022 GT convertible, to a 2024 GT convertible, I think the S650 is much more refined.
It still has that antenna sticking up? 😆
@@YTholic2 I bought the stubby on Amazon
I would take the S550.
The s550 looks so much better it drives me crazy to see how manufacturers downgrade their cars so bad
S550 all day. The S650 is heavier and slower. I’d much prefer S550
Heavier😂. By how much?
i love how you shoot it straight as an arrow with the new mustang. for me, i dont like the 24 at all. tesla interior, non tunable, ugly looks, overweight, and overpriced. the s550 looks like a catfish like everyone said the camaro had. im not a fan of the s550, wife had one, i didnt like it. doesnt feel like a mustang at all. the 11-14s look and sound more aggressive. those were retro styles and had the mean look a mustang is supposed to have. i personally liked the fogs on the s197, it was a point to distinguish a gt over a v6 and everyone knew it was a mustang. the 15 and up and 24 nobody will know its a mustang at night other than being behind it but coming at ya at night you wont know. for me, ill keep my 13gt, its faster, better looking, and lighter.
Can’t believe I’m seeing a brand new mustang with dual exhaust and not quads 😂. They really wanted to go base on the base haha. Nothing will overcome that for me. You just can’t go backwards like that. The new mustang is cool but going backwards in any aspect just isn’t good even though I’d never get the base GT especially going from a pp2 it’s either gotta be a dark horse with the handling pack for me or nothing.
If I could purchase my ‘06 GT Premium all over again… Hands down winner. I do not like the twin tablet dash. I’m a tech guy, but, I want analog gauges in my Mustang.
05-09 styling was on point with how a Mustang should look. Never cared much for these rounded looking ones ever since they debuted. Personally I’d fire the Ford design team.
My favorite thing on new S650 is the stand alone big brake package.
Everyone keeps talking about the "new high tech interior" - it is not, they literally slapped 2 screens to the dash and forgot all about the rest of the interior. The over all control panel is 20+ years old. The steering wheel is absolutely garbage, it reminds me of an early 2000s model, 2 stalks (really!!!), gigantic buttons! HEY WE GOT 2 BIG SCREENS! forget about all the other garbage.
Justin, great review. I'm still waiting for my loaded 24 GT. Prem. I am not entirely sold on the dash yet but time will tell. Myself I am coming from a 2020GT and it will take some getting used to before I comment.
Performance wise - it makes zero sense to buy a 2024 (even the darkhorse). Features, the S650 has a couple of perks...but the gimmick crap kind of negates the "perks". Between the Escape-ev....er...I mean...Mach-E and then this? I feel like Ford is taking the lazy way out these days.
I think it's not enough to impress the mustang faithful, besides the next-gen interior everything else is a pass for me.
I got a good look at a HP dark horse, inside, underneath, pulled off panels, installed and the loose parts, It looks like a s550 remastered. I do feel it needs more hard controls. The steering controls are great but having to jump around the center screen for simple tasks...and the few buttons that are there feel like a old cheap membrane keyboard covered with one of those one piece rubber dust protectors. The over all styling is a bit Mach E with a splash of mustang II added for the interior. A few things seems off but it's a nice refresh. After putting miles on it, I could not tell a difference between it and a Mach 1 other than how the the steering wheel felt, mixed feels about it too. The few nice upgrades it has over the S550 are probably going to be near direct bolt-ons. If I had a base GT or a pp1 it's a nice upgrade with a refresh. Have a Shelby or Mach 1... Wait till this model gets a refresh.
The S650 is great in a lot of ways, BUT... the S550 is the sexier of the 2 cars. The curves of the S550 give it a better look, IMO, than the S650. It will be interesting to put the 2 on a track and see which one is quicker- base to base. Does the added weight offset the added HP in the 2024 or is it quicker? I'm also an old-school guy. The new stuff is nice, but the S550 is what I'd rather be driving.
Great detailed helpful review. My opinion might well be biased as a 22 GT Premium 10spd with App Pgk and 401A added but the 24 is the farthest away from a Stang look as it can get. It looks bulky, heavy and too MOPAR looking. That front end reminds me of current Chargers, who needs another "Police" looking car on the streets? The interior with the 2 big screen doesn't look practical especially when one is on the road and need to change modes on the engine and steering wheel for ex. Also, that 60's interior gauges and colour cluster changes is one of the best thing Ford ever done for the last 2 gens, not having that in 24 is a negative. It's all subjective of course we all have our opinions but my god I love my 22 GT and the quad active exhaust. Cheers.
Not a big fan of those screens. Is lazy designing. Just put 2 tablets and that's it. Doesn't look sporty, looks generic. Like any other car out there. I like digital displays but I think they should have done something similar to the s550 digital display.
As a mustang gt owner Ford flopped on this new gen coyote hard bro 😢 power went down plus it dosent feel nor look like a mustang they could’ve done better in my opinion I’ll stick to my s550 instead of dropping 70k for a less torquey car
I might be the only person with this opinion don’t know if anyone else to but I prefer the 1st gen s550 2015-2017 body style before they dropped the nose and change the taillights
I do too. Imo 15-17 is the ideal one to mod they have the better manual gearing if you're a stick guy and they didn't have the shift fork issues like the later ones. The gen 2 is arguably one of the best to boost as well.
@@midnight347yup I bought 2015 5.0 brand new been boosted 150k miles still running great
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks this
@@midnight347 yea there the best
The rear end of the s650 just isn’t for me… it’s too angular I think. Also the massive screen on the dash isn’t as appealing to me. Still a great car, but I still intend to get a s550 within the next couple months
I was not aware of the switch to an electric parking brake as opposed to just the manual handle, that's annoying. I guess you gotta have the performance package to get a handle back. The black plastic rear lower valance is something that I guarantee you will not age well, because of how it is positioned higher up in more direct sunlight. If any of you guys remember the '10-12 rear lower valance that was also black plastic you know it only takes about 5 years in the sun for it to start losing its color and starting to look pretty bad. The '13-'23s didn't have to worry about that much with their body color, painted valances. Just something to note. And I really miss the dual cowls and analog buttons. To me the Mustang is a raw, driver's car by nature and I feel a small bit of that attitude is lost with so many touchscreens. Particularly the aircraft-looking toggle switches found on the premium S550, I think its fair to say most people really liked those, A touscreen interface is never a good replacement for a well put together button or trigger to me. If I am honest this interior refresh is the only one on a Mustang that ever felt like somewhat of a downgrade from the old one to me. It's still a great car, and a good interior, don't get me wrong. All that said to me the S650 is a hit, and I intend on buying one in a few years but I do miss a thing or two about past interiors.
The touch screen is ugly it's like ford stuck two tablets in the dash and called it a day. Plus no physical buttons. I hate how everything is going buttonless if those screens go out you have no way of knowing or using anything.
Call me poor but ill always like 14 and older and BASE model. The only newer and non base model ive ever liked was the gt350.
Its the same car from the S550 to S650. Not all new the same chassis. The same suspension designed. The same wheelbase.
I can't believe I have been rocking with you guys since 2011. Time flies. Still loving my 2012 V6 MCA Metallic Candy Red.