I agree the $75k Darkhorse should be whippled 875hp factory and next GT500 be 1026hp+(Beat Demon 170). Since we at the end of the V8 era supposedly go all out with a bang
You are complaining about how the car was designed! Get the car tuned aftermarket if you want aftermarket performance. Also, never buy a product right out the box.
The Apple CarPlay issue: You might have already found this out since submitting this video. You’re right, it is a bug, but you don’t have to turn off the car. You can go to Home > Settings > Phone List, and you’ll see that your phone connects to Bluetooth in (3) different ways (phone calls, audio, and CarPlay). This n your case you may just have to click the CarPlay button. Let me know if this addresses your issue. Thanks.
If you press down the next track button and the volume down button for a few seconds it hard resets the infotainment without having to turn off the car or mess around with it while driving. It really is annoying when it happens though.
I am glad most of the ppl who have issues with the car are either because you can't tune it or some drag race issue. I just want something cool to cruise down the highway. The thing stuck on the loading screen, I wonder if its Unreal Engine. I am a dev for that engine and its known to crash often
From a fellow S650 owner, I say hold on to it and try and enjoy it. Prior to the S650 I had a 2018 Q50 sport I gave up on too soon because there was zero tuning at the time. Roughly a few months after selling it, tunes and aftermarket turbos and etc came out. Now there’s Q50 3.0ts pushing 700whp regularly, goracebox and similar companies are waking them up. Hopefully there will be someone waking up the S650s soon.
@@hydra5.0 It seemed like your biggest complaint is not getting the performance pack, imo it’s either PP or premium I went with PP, maybe 3.15 will run better on whipple if you had any plans doing that
I have an s650 and I have none of these issues. I have a manual so can’t comment on the automatics. Also I have not really paid attention to the like temps cos I don’t really drive it hard.
I almost got a dark horse but decided not to and got a full optioned GT premium 10 speed. What lip do you have? I did get the performance pack and I do have the little cooler in the driver vent but honestly I don’t drive the mustang like that but I did notice my oil is cooler even on hot days. Now mine came full PPF and ceramic coated so it does protect against rocks and scuffs so for those that get one do the PPF it helps
Hey man I was just wondering how did you install the pony badge on the RTR grille? I want to do the same for mine, not having the Mustang logo there just feels wrong for me. TIA!
8:05 that’s been happening since the s550, just use the paddle shift to drop a gear when you go up a hill, switch to gear stick to sport and back to drive to get it back in automatic. Sounds like a bunch of steps but it literally takes 5 seconds in real time
every vehicle has its issues and none are perfect I have an S650 and the carplay issues are real but I also had them on my 2 S550s as well so I'm pretty sure that's an Apple issue as far as the filters, if you're going to open up her airways and let all the road gunk in there you should probably just invest in some washable/reusable filters cheaper than replacing them all the time I got the PP so the cooling isn't an issue for me I love my S650 and I would trade my FBO S550 in for it again tomorrow if I had to zero regrets here
If tuning does ever become available for the 2024s, it will happen only after ford releases the GT500 version of the mustang. They don't want to canabalize their sales of the performance model. For example, the c8 corvette only became tunable after the z06 came out and chevy was able to capture all of those sales first... Ford will use the same playbook. If you want a fast mustang, you need a 23 and under until further notice. Also, the whipple stage 1 kit does come with a warranty. The whipple stage 2 kit does not. Alejandro Flores channel on youtube covers all this kind of technical info on mustangs. He himself is a tuner for Lund Racing and goes live at 8 pm on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday and answers viewer questions. You can replay the lives from the past and search his videos because he's basically answered every question you may have because someone else has probably already asked it.
@@ajchrome3239 hopefully my buddy got a 24 but isn’t worried about it no being able to get tuned cause anyways he has warranty for like two more years and doesn’t want it to come off
I have the manual version I have no problems with any of the timing even when temp is high I rode 30 miles straight going 100 plus oil reached 270 but I was able to always shift at the max 7500 rpm since it’s manual 🤷♂️
I have the 2024 GT Performance Pack auto. My differential overheats at road course track days (when it's hot outside). The dealership told me, if I added a diff cooler, it would void the warranty. Also, the dashboard graphics are very slow. And yes, the transmission is very clunky.
That’s just not really true. They can’t void your warranty for the entire car. Maybe for the diff yes but if you add a diff cooler and something goes wrong with your engine how does the diff effect the engine? Or your shock leaks a diff cooler doesn’t effect the suspension. You know what I’m saying?
C7 if you sorta fit or young and into good handling. The base mustangs will never drive as good the steering is broken. Try get the Z51 with magnetic ride will blow you away. But there is always GT350/SS1LE too
C7 will definitely handle better but I did love my s550. Maybe look into a gt350 like the other guy said for better handling or Mach one if u wanted to go with an auto
Not really a Camaro guy & I heard the GT350 are really unreliable though unless you get the 2019 & those are pretty pricey they are cool though can’t deny it 🐍
It’s hard to choose from s550/s650 with cool interior with ambient lighting but the C7 exterior is just where it’s at , sucks there’s no ambient lighting on that & I feel like the s650 exterior body style is way way nicer than the s550 for me but s550 are way cheaper man decisions decisions . I’d like to start a RUclips channel with one of these as well
What package comes with the extra oil and trans coolers. I looked at what the performance package comes with on a 2024 gt and didn’t see anything about coolers. Is that only for dark horses cuz I think u said u wished u had opted for the oil and trans cooler?
It doesn’t say it but the performance pack does come with the oil cooler in the lower driver grille and extra trans cooler in the front. Dark horse has that but also comes with a diff cooler
@@sebleal4384Yeah for whatever reason Ford doesn't list all of the upgrades that the performance Pack includes, for example the Lower Front Splitter, Larger F/R Control Arms, Spherical Bearings, Larger Radiator (50%), Oil Cooler, Trans Cooler, Front Underbody Air Deflector etc.
Wow red looks really good, I have a yellow splash 24 gt. I originally wanted the manual but after test driving one, coming from a 500whp sti, the trans just didn’t feel good to me, and the seating and arm position to shift was uncomfortable to me although I’m a bigger dude (6’3) 280 pounds. That said I do miss shifting gears, but the auto does make for a nice cruiser.
Not just Mustangs that have the Buggy Sync 4 system. If you don’t get sound on CarPlay, the quickest way to fix it is turning on your WiFi to disconnect the CarPlay, turn WiFi back on once it disconnects, then go to your phone list and hit the CarPlay button next to your phone. This fixes the sound issue 9/10 times and takes a couple seconds. The bugginess of CarPlay is annoying and ongoing, though.
I have the same issue with the apple car play bug. Pretty annoying especially when you do a cold start and reboot the car. But overall the car is great
So I live in a hot climate as well but I have a PP GT with a manual so I don’t have the transmission problems, however for me that was common with my S550 with the automatic is that the transmission would get confused and not shift properly. I also don’t have the overheating issues and I drive relatively hard, I think on my 1300 mile road trip the highest temps I saw cruising down the highway was probably 220. I will say although I’ve never had the Apple CarPlay problem you described, when I’m listening to music you can watch the center stack freeze and everything stops and comes back and makes it unusable. For the scuff marks on the side skirts they bug me too, mine came with them from my dealership and they are not even where my foot could touch. My real only gripe with the car is that there’s like no actual buttons for the radio and climate controls. Other than that I love this car.
Performance pack is the way to go. That said, I got a 2024 for 59k that costs 66k to build in 2025. Crazy money! Could get 2 S550s that can be tuned for the price of a S650 that can't be tuned. But hey, if you want the latest greatest and cant be talked out of it...go for it!
I went manual dark horse. Fun car and did great on track, but I agree it should have came with a whipple from the factory. I haven't had issues with Apple Carplay or lines not showing on the reverse camera. However, I have noticed on occasion the screens boot up much faster if I start the car, versus just pushing the power button.
@hydra5.0 I don't understand the camaro 10spd is a ford transmission correct? No camaro owners have that issue of going up hill and it not shifting too the right gear that ive heard of also they get the tremec standard on the camaro ss but you have to pay 70k plus for the dark horse to get tremec when it's made by Ford that is pathetic you have to admit it makes no sense at all.. These new mustang do look beautiful and I'm not a ford guy but I would definitely buy one they look and sound bad ass and they perform good now and way faster now..
Idk much about cars so I could be totally wrong maybe ford does or doesn't make the tremec but I could have sworn I seen or read that they did make that or atleast the 10spd auto in the camaros they make I believe I'm not sure..
@@cryptonator1988 The 10r80 transmission was a joint project between both chevy and ford. Type in Ford-GM 10-speed automatic transmission on Wikipedia. It covers some of the basic info about it. As far as the Tremec... that's made by tremec... The model is the TR-3160 which is the same one from the GT350... it has lightened gears for track use, but those lighter gears can be weaker than the regular mt82 for high hp and torque applications. Both can have issues with high power applications as do most transmissions. Calimer Transmissons in Pennsylvania has staged upgrade packages for both. A number of automatic transmission shops offer upgrades to the 10r80 as well for high hp applications. Midnight performance and RSA Race and Pure Drivetrain Solutions are a few companies that I know of that upgrade the 10r80 auto
@@Cor430vette That’s a lame excuse; what’s the point of being just as fast as your technology allows you too. 2 drivers with the exact same specs and auto will make no difference. Manual cars drivers can
@@MichaelKael_F what are you talking about .. everyone modifys their car right? Exhaust, tune, ported manifold, intake, maybe even supercharger.. to go faster, make more power. .. but you want to buy the slower car regardless of the modifications your car is slower the first mod should be the 10r80..if all you want is the ability to row gears go buy a Miata .. I’ve only driven manual corvettes before buying a 2020 s550 auto .. your slow ass is what is lame.
Thats crazy because they hold like 10 quarts of oil too.. You would think it would keep the car cool having all that oil in it.. My 2017 only holds 8 quarts and I thought that was a lot.. I am soo happy I went with a Gen 2 S550 Manual Base performance Pack.. Anyway If I were you I would try going to a 5/30 or 5/40 oil to help with temps.. It looks like you live in a hot area so going with a thicker oil wouldn't hurt the car..
The dark horse is overrated for the price tag and the problems that come with it 75 grand is to much musbang is what they are I have two mustang GT a 04 mustang GT dark shadow gray 4.shit automatic and a 14 mustang GT 5.0hhhhhh yeah 6 speed manual sterling gray and I was going to get the 24 musbang GT but after that first test drive I had my doubts and questions and the mark ups by the dealership 65 grand for a plain GT premium I had to walk away from that deal and those two tables looked awful,terrible
I Love Mustangs.... Older ones... Who the hell wants all that Technology.... Brand New..(5,000 mi ) and chit ain't working.... Your not too Bright kid.... are you ⁉️
They are not built that well. How is the ticking sound? Ford and Quality are not synonymous anymore. So sorry. Dump it take the hit and get something else.
My father just bought a C8 2LT for 87k tax included. For the money get lot more car than a dark horse. Same goes for the camaro not picking on mustangs just saying there to much money. I own a gen 6 2018 Camaro got killer deal on it in 2018. But now the Camaro is so much money might just as well find a vet lol!!
I find the worst part about the newer GT's are the shift points.. The auto's shift anywhere from 1000 to 500 RPM's early, and the Manuals get power cut once they hit 7300/7400 RPM... You can't even run these cars out to red line.. That is a huge problem to me.. Oh and finally I see everyone is having the same issues with the Ipad displays and dash.. I am so happy to have my buttons and real gages. Ford can keep all that other Tech Crap.
The worst part is the tuning situation makes it have less potential than older mustangs so it's not just slower stock for stock but it don't have nowhere near the potential.
@@WayneStinson-m2u how are you gonna tell me I’m not a car guy when I’ve pretty much installed everything on my car so far. Trust me there’s far worse out there. So you’re telling me to start wrenching as soon as right out of the womb? Bet. I’ll make sure my kid does that as soon as he’s born, I’m putting him to work.
I didn’t know a dark horse with handling package is 50k? Last time I checked it was around 75-80k. Also u actually can get a brand new Mustang with a Whipple for 50k lol. Literally a dealership advertised it. Base model Mustang add a ford performance whipple 50k🤣🤣
Time will tell... Gen 4 coyote has lots of potential... until tuning is unlocked it just wont be realized. Gen 3 bottom end was good for 1000 rwhp with boost and a fuel system and e85... Gen 4 will be too IF tuning gets unlocked. If it doesn't ever get unlocked... then yes
Cruising on the highway around 225-230 and when I floor it, it jumps to 240s and if I continue to mess around on the highway it can get up to 250-260s easily pretty quick
I agree the $75k Darkhorse should be whippled 875hp factory and next GT500 be 1026hp+(Beat Demon 170). Since we at the end of the V8 era supposedly go all out with a bang
I agree they need to come out with something and go all out. Like the GTD but something that isn’t 350k lol
the dark horse isnt 75k. its 59k
@ISLAMICSTORIES13 notice I said the $75k loaded dark horse with handling pack should be supercharged not the base version
You do realize Ford is still using the V8 in the Mustang? Just because Stellantis is pussies...
You are complaining about how the car was designed! Get the car tuned aftermarket if you want aftermarket performance. Also, never buy a product right out the box.
Cant tune these. ECUs are locked
@@Henryhubterwwssd stand alone ECU.
The Apple CarPlay issue: You might have already found this out since submitting this video. You’re right, it is a bug, but you don’t have to turn off the car. You can go to Home > Settings > Phone List, and you’ll see that your phone connects to Bluetooth in (3) different ways (phone calls, audio, and CarPlay). This n your case you may just have to click the CarPlay button. Let me know if this addresses your issue. Thanks.
I’ll try this out!
I gotta $124 temu radio that hooks up wireless everytime i sit in my Altima. Ford.
If you press down the next track button and the volume down button for a few seconds it hard resets the infotainment without having to turn off the car or mess around with it while driving. It really is annoying when it happens though.
I am glad most of the ppl who have issues with the car are either because you can't tune it or some drag race issue. I just want something cool to cruise down the highway. The thing stuck on the loading screen, I wonder if its Unreal Engine. I am a dev for that engine and its known to crash often
From a fellow S650 owner, I say hold on to it and try and enjoy it. Prior to the S650 I had a 2018 Q50 sport I gave up on too soon because there was zero tuning at the time. Roughly a few months after selling it, tunes and aftermarket turbos and etc came out. Now there’s Q50 3.0ts pushing 700whp regularly, goracebox and similar companies are waking them up. Hopefully there will be someone waking up the S650s soon.
Who tunes q50 haha
@@WayneStinson-m2u many people?
@@WayneStinson-m2ulol your a joke
@@WayneStinson-m2uand Q60 ALOT notice GTRs? VQ LEGENDS ARE MADE NOT BORN!
S650 is a disgrace, instead I just bought a 22 Mach 1 with full HP package with 700 miles for 54k.
warranty?
I got my s650 with most of the features I wanted for 47k
That's the route I'm planning on going.
biggest L that dark horse doesn’t come with whipple from factory
Agreed
@@hydra5.0 It seemed like your biggest complaint is not getting the performance pack, imo it’s either PP or premium I went with PP, maybe 3.15 will run better on whipple if you had any plans doing that
For what they cost that is absolutely correct lol.
they need to reserve it for shelbys. the dark horse isnt expensive enough over the gt to be supercharged. it just is what is
I just feel like y'all can't afford it for real thats why I love my gt
I have an s650 and I have none of these issues. I have a manual so can’t comment on the automatics. Also I have not really paid attention to the like temps cos I don’t really drive it hard.
CarPlay issue always just decides to occur randomly lol
@@hydra5.0 damn sorry about that. Had an audio issue once and that was my first day with the car but it never happened again.
I almost got a dark horse but decided not to and got a full optioned GT premium 10 speed. What lip do you have? I did get the performance pack and I do have the little cooler in the driver vent but honestly I don’t drive the mustang like that but I did notice my oil is cooler even on hot days. Now mine came full PPF and ceramic coated so it does protect against rocks and scuffs so for those that get one do the PPF it helps
How much did you pay for the PPF
Hey man I was just wondering how did you install the pony badge on the RTR grille? I want to do the same for mine, not having the Mustang logo there just feels wrong for me. TIA!
8:05 that’s been happening since the s550, just use the paddle shift to drop a gear when you go up a hill, switch to gear stick to sport and back to drive to get it back in automatic. Sounds like a bunch of steps but it literally takes 5 seconds in real time
Interesting
every vehicle has its issues and none are perfect I have an S650 and the carplay issues are real but I also had them on my 2 S550s as well so I'm pretty sure that's an Apple issue as far as the filters, if you're going to open up her airways and let all the road gunk in there you should probably just invest in some washable/reusable filters cheaper than replacing them all the time I got the PP so the cooling isn't an issue for me I love my S650 and I would trade my FBO S550 in for it again tomorrow if I had to zero regrets here
What you didn't like about your S550's? I'm having a hard time with the tablets panels on the 650's.
When and how long do you think is it gonna take to get a tune and also does getting a tune mess with the warranty?
I’m not sure when tuning will be available. Yes it voids warranty
If tuning does ever become available for the 2024s, it will happen only after ford releases the GT500 version of the mustang. They don't want to canabalize their sales of the performance model. For example, the c8 corvette only became tunable after the z06 came out and chevy was able to capture all of those sales first... Ford will use the same playbook. If you want a fast mustang, you need a 23 and under until further notice. Also, the whipple stage 1 kit does come with a warranty. The whipple stage 2 kit does not. Alejandro Flores channel on youtube covers all this kind of technical info on mustangs. He himself is a tuner for Lund Racing and goes live at 8 pm on Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday and answers viewer questions. You can replay the lives from the past and search his videos because he's basically answered every question you may have because someone else has probably already asked it.
@@ajchrome3239 hopefully my buddy got a 24 but isn’t worried about it no being able to get tuned cause anyways he has warranty for like two more years and doesn’t want it to come off
I have the manual version I have no problems with any of the timing even when temp is high I rode 30 miles straight going 100 plus oil reached 270 but I was able to always shift at the max 7500 rpm since it’s manual 🤷♂️
I have the 2024 GT Performance Pack auto. My differential overheats at road course track days (when it's hot outside). The dealership told me, if I added a diff cooler, it would void the warranty. Also, the dashboard graphics are very slow. And yes, the transmission is very clunky.
That’s just not really true. They can’t void your warranty for the entire car. Maybe for the diff yes but if you add a diff cooler and something goes wrong with your engine how does the diff effect the engine? Or your shock leaks a diff cooler doesn’t effect the suspension. You know what I’m saying?
@@hydra5.0 right, the warranty on the diff.
Thinking about getting a c7 or this or the s550 what chu think is better
C7 if you sorta fit or young and into good handling. The base mustangs will never drive as good the steering is broken. Try get the Z51 with magnetic ride will blow you away. But there is always GT350/SS1LE too
C7 will definitely handle better but I did love my s550. Maybe look into a gt350 like the other guy said for better handling or Mach one if u wanted to go with an auto
If you wanna mod stay away from the s650. Thank me later.
Not really a Camaro guy & I heard the GT350 are really unreliable though unless you get the 2019 & those are pretty pricey they are cool though can’t deny it 🐍
It’s hard to choose from s550/s650 with cool interior with ambient lighting but the C7 exterior is just where it’s at , sucks there’s no ambient lighting on that & I feel like the s650 exterior body style is way way nicer than the s550 for me but s550 are way cheaper man decisions decisions . I’d like to start a RUclips channel with one of these as well
if youre just cruising at 70-75, what are the expected oil temps? does it go up to 240s as well? or only when flooring?
can’t forget about the misaligned body panels
I’ve seen some on others but mine is pretty good
@@hydra5.0 that’s good to hear, mine wasn’t so lucky ..
my scat pack can do run after run at the drag stip and the trans doesn't get over 200 and my oil temp doesn't get over 240
Nice
The most annoying thing is that the car won't shift if your using the adaptive cruise control it will try to go 40 mph in just first gear from a stop
Really? I’ve never tried that
How does this compared to the new corvettes?
Apples to oranges brother. Two completely different cars. The new c8 is a supercar. The mustang is a muscle car/ sports car.
I’m planning on trading my 2024 si in for a GT with the premium package and the whipple added to it under warranty. Do you think I’ll be okay
That’s awesome I think you’ll love it
RE "Apple issues" Have you updated your IOS on phone? Maybe it is Apple's incompatibility? How well does Android work?
Yes it’s updated. Hopefully Apple fixes it or whoever issue it is lol
What package comes with the extra oil and trans coolers. I looked at what the performance package comes with on a 2024 gt and didn’t see anything about coolers. Is that only for dark horses cuz I think u said u wished u had opted for the oil and trans cooler?
It doesn’t say it but the performance pack does come with the oil cooler in the lower driver grille and extra trans cooler in the front. Dark horse has that but also comes with a diff cooler
@@hydra5.0oh ok thanks for the response and keep up the good work always love watching when theres a new upload 🙌🏽
@@sebleal4384Yeah for whatever reason Ford doesn't list all of the upgrades that the performance Pack includes, for example the Lower Front Splitter, Larger F/R Control Arms, Spherical Bearings, Larger Radiator (50%), Oil Cooler, Trans Cooler, Front Underbody Air Deflector etc.
What does the air filters do to the car does it make it faster sound better what does it do?
It’s just more free flowing plus if you get aftermarket ones u can wash them and reuse them
Wow red looks really good, I have a yellow splash 24 gt. I originally wanted the manual but after test driving one, coming from a 500whp sti, the trans just didn’t feel good to me, and the seating and arm position to shift was uncomfortable to me although I’m a bigger dude (6’3) 280 pounds. That said I do miss shifting gears, but the auto does make for a nice cruiser.
Not just Mustangs that have the Buggy Sync 4 system. If you don’t get sound on CarPlay, the quickest way to fix it is turning on your WiFi to disconnect the CarPlay, turn WiFi back on once it disconnects, then go to your phone list and hit the CarPlay button next to your phone. This fixes the sound issue 9/10 times and takes a couple seconds. The bugginess of CarPlay is annoying and ongoing, though.
bro the wheel and tire setup is so hard
Thabks for sharing these tips, im hoping to grab one of these myself hopefully at the end of this year
No problem you’ll love it!
do your tires rub the finderwell
Nope
@@hydra5.0 cool
I have the same issue with the apple car play bug. Pretty annoying especially when you do a cold start and reboot the car. But overall the car is great
Check your fuses. Sometimes, they are not pushed all the way in during assembly. People rushing...
Im almost done paying off my 2018 ecoboost and i wanted to use it as a down payment for a gt s650
So I live in a hot climate as well but I have a PP GT with a manual so I don’t have the transmission problems, however for me that was common with my S550 with the automatic is that the transmission would get confused and not shift properly. I also don’t have the overheating issues and I drive relatively hard, I think on my 1300 mile road trip the highest temps I saw cruising down the highway was probably 220. I will say although I’ve never had the Apple CarPlay problem you described, when I’m listening to music you can watch the center stack freeze and everything stops and comes back and makes it unusable. For the scuff marks on the side skirts they bug me too, mine came with them from my dealership and they are not even where my foot could touch. My real only gripe with the car is that there’s like no actual buttons for the radio and climate controls. Other than that I love this car.
Which HREs are those bro?
HRE FF10 in tarmac !
@@hydra5.0 can i get wheel and tire specs?? car looks great
Performance pack is the way to go. That said, I got a 2024 for 59k that costs 66k to build in 2025. Crazy money! Could get 2 S550s that can be tuned for the price of a S650 that can't be tuned. But hey, if you want the latest greatest and cant be talked out of it...go for it!
Shoulda got the PP homie! Fully Loaded Only
I went manual dark horse. Fun car and did great on track, but I agree it should have came with a whipple from the factory. I haven't had issues with Apple Carplay or lines not showing on the reverse camera. However, I have noticed on occasion the screens boot up much faster if I start the car, versus just pushing the power button.
Solid choice I bet the tremec is awesome
@@hydra5.0 100%. Love shifting gears in this thing. It’s a solid transmission.
@hydra5.0 I don't understand the camaro 10spd is a ford transmission correct? No camaro owners have that issue of going up hill and it not shifting too the right gear that ive heard of also they get the tremec standard on the camaro ss but you have to pay 70k plus for the dark horse to get tremec when it's made by Ford that is pathetic you have to admit it makes no sense at all.. These new mustang do look beautiful and I'm not a ford guy but I would definitely buy one they look and sound bad ass and they perform good now and way faster now..
Idk much about cars so I could be totally wrong maybe ford does or doesn't make the tremec but I could have sworn I seen or read that they did make that or atleast the 10spd auto in the camaros they make I believe I'm not sure..
@@cryptonator1988 The 10r80 transmission was a joint project between both chevy and ford. Type in Ford-GM 10-speed automatic transmission on Wikipedia. It covers some of the basic info about it. As far as the Tremec... that's made by tremec... The model is the TR-3160 which is the same one from the GT350... it has lightened gears for track use, but those lighter gears can be weaker than the regular mt82 for high hp and torque applications. Both can have issues with high power applications as do most transmissions. Calimer Transmissons in Pennsylvania has staged upgrade packages for both. A number of automatic transmission shops offer upgrades to the 10r80 as well for high hp applications. Midnight performance and RSA Race and Pure Drivetrain Solutions are a few companies that I know of that upgrade the 10r80 auto
Why would you not get the manual transmission? You wouldn’t have these overheating and gear changing issues and it would be more enjoyable to drive!
Probably can’t drive stick 🤷🏻♂️
Cause stick although funner is SLOWER and why buy the slowest performance option?
@@Cor430vette That’s a lame excuse; what’s the point of being just as fast as your technology allows you too.
2 drivers with the exact same specs and auto will make no difference.
Manual cars drivers can
@@MichaelKael_F what are you talking about .. everyone modifys their car right? Exhaust, tune, ported manifold, intake, maybe even supercharger.. to go faster, make more power. .. but you want to buy the slower car regardless of the modifications your car is slower the first mod should be the 10r80..if all you want is the ability to row gears go buy a Miata .. I’ve only driven manual corvettes before buying a 2020 s550 auto .. your slow ass is what is lame.
The mt82 Is not a good trans
Thats crazy because they hold like 10 quarts of oil too.. You would think it would keep the car cool having all that oil in it.. My 2017 only holds 8 quarts and I thought that was a lot.. I am soo happy I went with a Gen 2 S550 Manual Base performance Pack.. Anyway If I were you I would try going to a 5/30 or 5/40 oil to help with temps.. It looks like you live in a hot area so going with a thicker oil wouldn't hurt the car..
That’s what I was thinking. I’m running 5/30 now. In the manual it says that if you plan on taking the car to the track you can run 5/50 in it
The dark horse is overrated for the price tag and the problems that come with it 75 grand is to much musbang is what they are I have two mustang GT a 04 mustang GT dark shadow gray 4.shit automatic and a 14 mustang GT 5.0hhhhhh yeah 6 speed manual sterling gray and I was going to get the 24 musbang GT but after that first test drive I had my doubts and questions and the mark ups by the dealership 65 grand for a plain GT premium I had to walk away from that deal and those two tables looked awful,terrible
I would have taken it back to the stealership about that radio, i seen another guy complain about the same thing right after buying his
The numbers are just a range figure when it comes to temperature, you should not be much concern about 10 degrees more or less
That apple car play stuff is horrendous if that’s actually common lol
Super irritating
2024 Mustang Saleen White Label is the way to go.
Looks so good bro also damn only 30k on the s550 is crazy
You have the best looking s650 I’ve seen so far. Im eyeing the s650 gt500 super snake or RTR edition
Thanks! Those are both great options
Yeah dude. Wheels and stance look great and no corny mods. Just super clean. Well done for sure
@@ajchrome3239 thanks !
It Heats up Cause your Always Doing PULLS!! Duh
They probably got an underpaid intern working those software updates 😂
I want to see tire smoke…
I want to see you win a race next, or give me rollers with your DJI Osmo Pocket 3
Rollers now
u got a bad apple bro mine dont be doing none of that
Stop staring at all that shit and enjoy you car. Been there with sport bikes and blown coyotes. Just rip it dude,damn
I’m enjoying it
I Love Mustangs.... Older ones... Who the hell wants all that Technology....
Brand New..(5,000 mi ) and chit ain't working.... Your not too Bright kid.... are you ⁉️
ill get a manual trans, more fun and lower temps
I got a question who cares just enjoy the car are you going to race and get money doing it
This dude is pulling timing. One quarter mile at a time.
This kid is right on!
2024's headlight looks like an accord, S550 looks way better.
Ford downgraded the look and made it lame. then need another face lift to fix the look.
They are not built that well. How is the ticking sound? Ford and Quality are not synonymous anymore. So sorry. Dump it take the hit and get something else.
Lot of womp womp in this video. This car is great and faster than manual. Don’t use the paddles while dragging/racing. Car play is as though.
My father just bought a C8 2LT for 87k tax included. For the money get lot more car than a dark horse. Same goes for the camaro not picking on mustangs just saying there to much money. I own a gen 6 2018 Camaro got killer deal on it in 2018. But now the Camaro is so much money might just as well find a vet lol!!
Cry cry cry. The car is phenomenal even as stock. 13k miles on mine and it’s way better than the S550.
I never said I liked my s550 more lol
Idk i put 155k hard miles on my s550 and its still running strong. If a s650 can do the same without having many issues I would agree.
Nice video
Thanks
I don’t think you like your rims and you should ship them to me immediately to avoid the visual assault from looking at them everyday
Fine take them
He don't know much about Mopar
I’m sick of nerds talking about cars trying to be Car Gyes real bad
Sick of people that can’t spell
Ok I won’t
I love mine!
Same
You made a good video.
Appreciate it!
Which car would you recommend? I don't know much about cars.
I recommend a KIA.
Okay you bought an auto that’s why
bruh u gotta defect mustang fr
I don’t
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Appreciate it! Thanks!
I like mine
Who buys an auto?
I find the worst part about the newer GT's are the shift points.. The auto's shift anywhere from 1000 to 500 RPM's early, and the Manuals get power cut once they hit 7300/7400 RPM... You can't even run these cars out to red line.. That is a huge problem to me.. Oh and finally I see everyone is having the same issues with the Ipad displays and dash.. I am so happy to have my buttons and real gages. Ford can keep all that other Tech Crap.
just gotta wait til its tunable. not to big of a deal
Should have kept your S550 I will never buy a new Mustang....they are garbage
Ok
This dude needs to audition for the next Bill and Ted’s great adventure movie. I’m just not sure which part he should take. 😂😂😂
Very fat and slow for 50000$ plus dollars very disappointing
The worst part is the tuning situation makes it have less potential than older mustangs so it's not just slower stock for stock but it don't have nowhere near the potential.
W vid
Thanks!
Would you like some cheese with your wine haha
Your knowledge is way below average. Your not a car guy, wrench on cars for twenty years and then give me your opinion… or something
@@WayneStinson-m2u how are you gonna tell me I’m not a car guy when I’ve pretty much installed everything on my car so far. Trust me there’s far worse out there. So you’re telling me to start wrenching as soon as right out of the womb? Bet. I’ll make sure my kid does that as soon as he’s born, I’m putting him to work.
Click bait 😂😂😂
How? Explained valid reasons of things I that I’ve encountered with the car. Those issues could possibly make buyers rethink their ideas lol
Bro! you should be a comedian 😂 You want a new mustang v8 with a Whipple for 50k what world are you living in ? 😂😂😂
I didn’t know a dark horse with handling package is 50k? Last time I checked it was around 75-80k. Also u actually can get a brand new Mustang with a Whipple for 50k lol. Literally a dealership advertised it. Base model Mustang add a ford performance whipple 50k🤣🤣
You’re right…
LFP Whipple Supercharged Mustang GT for $49,995 with 810HP.
Don’t worry I’m a man. I’d never buy a mustang
Call your self a girl then
Your crazy
Ok
Another car expert not
Everything I said was valid reasons lol never said it was an expert. All things I have experienced.
S650 is most definitely garbage.
This. Wonder how long the clout chasers will wait for tuning that isn't coming before the ditch the s650?
Time will tell... Gen 4 coyote has lots of potential... until tuning is unlocked it just wont be realized. Gen 3 bottom end was good for 1000 rwhp with boost and a fuel system and e85... Gen 4 will be too IF tuning gets unlocked. If it doesn't ever get unlocked... then yes
I dont like the dash either.... Will keep my 550
if youre just cruising at 70-75, what are the expected oil temps? does it go up to 240s as well? or only when flooring
Cruising on the highway around 225-230 and when I floor it, it jumps to 240s and if I continue to mess around on the highway it can get up to 250-260s easily pretty quick