Is your dentist ripping you off? Hidden camera investigation (CBC Marketplace)
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- Money Where Your Mouth Is | Originally broadcast October 19, 2012
When it's time to get our teeth checked, most of us trust our dentist to determine the treatment plan and how much it will cost. They are the experts, aren't they?
Co-host Erica Johnson puts dentists to the test: how does one know for sure what work needs to be done and how much it should cost? We reveal that dentists themselves can't even agree.
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Once my dentist said I had 7 cavities, so instead of getting them filled I decided not to go back for 2 years, and somehow ALL of them magically disappeared...
+tonyfalca Had the same thing happen to me when I was 7 years old. Told my parents I had 7 cavities and needed serious orthodontic work. 2 years later I had 1 minor cavity filled. My parents were smart enough to see through his crap.
CathyGo
it's unbelievable, eh? i haven't been to the dentist in probably at least two years now and my teeth are fine.
+tonyfalca I had an herb related doctor, she relied on herb medicines and zen shit. Her building later got flooded, rebuilt, then burnt. Not to mention the herbs didn't help at all, and some made me sick
+tonyfalca Been to the dentist not once in 12 years, I recently went and have one cavity and another tooth with extremely high calcification (read dental calculus or tartar) The tartar was easy to remove but I need to 'go back to have a filling'...
Blahsheep my dental hygeine was terrible back in the day. but i started flossing regularly and brushing every so often. haven't been back in a few years and no problems whatsoever. i think the regular visits are a scam. go if you have pain, otherwise save the $250 every 6 months or w/e it is for u
maybe it's better if you've actually sent an actual dentist to be an undercover patient so she can understand everything that is going on.
Haven haven't you heard of the brotherhood/sisterhood? They all stick together..fact.
thats actually smart, and that dentist could point out their mistakes too. The look on their faces would be priceless.
But the dentists cannot check their own teeth, right?
@@namphamhoang6107 Can a mechanic check his own car?
DannyPsyche yes a mechanic, but how could a dentist see their own mouth with as much attention to detail as someone else. But I do agree that having a dentist be the undercover patient would help explain a lot more.
One dentist says you have a cavity and need a filling or root canal and another dentist sees no cavities! WTH??! how many painful fillings have people endured for cavities that they don't have!? This is scandalous and beyond terrible!
It should be a crime.
I went to dentist who says I had to have 8 fillings done. I went to another dentist who checked my teeth and said I had NO cavities. I don't trust dentists at all.
@@karlabritfeld7104recisely. If you learn how to maintain your teeth, you wouldn't need their services at all. When you find ways to keep em clean, they get amazed and ask how you do it. If you tell them miswak stick, oraMD(or other alt tooth paste) or oil pulls they get all weirded out trying to claim it's not good blablablah. I'll trust the results and observable proof that my method is better than their parasitic practices
His Maserati ain't gonna pay it's own lease off right?
buyer beware ,, some of these so called dds are liars
We need government oversight of the dental industry, the same as the medical industry. Thank you for having the courage to do this program about dentists & dentist prices.
What makes you think the government is any better?
Exactly
Sounds like a terrible idea. Gov intervention is never good
Gov't often makes it worse.
amen
Wtf is the point of putting caption in your video if your logo is covering 75% of the sentence
Im glad I am not the only one who noticed it. It bothered me!!!
Good Game hi
Backyard Airsofters lal
You can still make out what it says
As has been demonstrated before, the producers have an aversion to thinking...
Going to dentist is like going to auto mechanics. You are a target as soon as you walk in.
If that's true, doesn't it sound very wrong? An auto mechanic does work he shouldn't but someone working on your teeth does work they shouldn't. Which shoulds worse?
Especially if you have insurance.
You can take your ____ (fill in the blank) to 10 different ________ (specialist here) and get 10 different _____ (specialist) estimates.
So true. I know preventative dentistry is ideal in theory, but with so many con artists, I just go when it hurts. And I tell THEM which tooth needs treating. Every single time, they say other teeth need expensive stuff. I just say "I can't afford those right now. I will come back next month". I don't go back. Lo and behold; there's never anything wrong with those other teeth. I needed to visit the dentist this year, and that was the first time in seven years.
It’s a mafia like any other mafia
A dentist told my spouse, who never had a cavity, that he had two cavities and recommended filling them. Scared of needles, he decided to wait for symptoms and did nothing. 9 years later, he still has no cavities. Be wary.
Omg
@@felipegarcia487 They're referring to the needles (shots of numbing medicine) that are stuck into the gum before the tooth is even worked on.
@@jmr1068204 or you can forego the needles and just bear with it, like how it is routinely done in different parts of the world.
@@felipegarcia487 that why I don’t understand why dentist fill superficial cavities when they have a strong chance at fixing themselves in the long run.
@@thephilosopher5799 If left unchecked, the cavity will grow larger and larger until the tooth is nothing but a literal shell and pieces of the corners will start crumbling apart, potential for infection increases because food gets stuck in the deep cavity, etc.
This makes me so grateful for my dentist. My dentist always compliments how well I take care of my teeth. I have had one procedure done & that's bc I requested it and he never pressured me into getting the procedure until I was ready.
Same, my dentist always compliments how well I take care of my teeth. He's super chilled and funny to talk to aswell.
It's a ashame people in the comment section are degrading 'most ' dentist as being scamers when there not. This video doesn't do dentist justice :(
When I was 11 I smashed my face off an air hockey table and pushed up my gums on one of my teeth. My dentist told my mom I could get surgery to fix the gum, but in a few years my gums would be that high anyway. The only procedure I’ve ever had done was my wisdom teeth getting removed after I’d requested it
and you are very young right???wait until you are 65plus see if you say the same thing. I hope you do better than me. really.
Miss Mani: Who is your dentist? He or she may be the one percent that is honest. Please tell us
I need to visit your dentist.
@@Zen_Zen_Zense maybe you don’t get work done because your teeth are actually good . Go see low income patients and you’ll see the difference . A lot of treatment options for them are not optimal because of cost issues . Sometimes it’s not worth the treatment if the cost is too great and there’s a chance the tooth will not be able to be saved
When I was a kid my father suspected that our dentist was drilling holes in our teeth just to make money. So we stopped going there. Two years later we were watching the local news when a picture of the old dentist's office popped up. The door opened and the dentist came out wearing handcuffs and he was under arrest. Guess what for? Doing unnecessary dental work on his patients.
Disgusting
Terrible people
wowwww
I appreciate yr comment re dirty dentists
yeah
This was standard procedure in Britain. I had a deciduous tooth as an adult. The dentist X-rayed it to see if there was an un-erupted permanent tooth underneath. There wasn't. Hence the milk tooth still being there. A perfectly healthy tooth, & essential for the dental arch & occlusion. What did he do? He ripped it out anyway. His reasoning? It would help the (absent) permanent tooth to come through. Result? My dental arch & occlusion has been destroyed.
But never mind. He profited from his work. That's all that mattered.
The same thing as me, only after 8 years, all of their staff was replaced and I went back because my teeth are really bad.
I've just graduated from college of dentistry and I'm watching this to learn what's not to do as dentist thank you
don't rip people off!🦷 🤣👿
Lol that's what I meant... 😂
Snow Flake Most of the people here have no idea what is good for them. According to them every dentist is just trying to make money. They have no idea that the insurance companies want proof before they will pay for treatment. Just play the insurance game and do the best you can. There is nothing wrong with doing preventive care.
@@MzSuzy2698 "play the insurance game"?
You'll end up like the rest of them & rip ppl off further in your career
The only thing that scares me of the denist, is the price tags.
Usually the most painful part.
@Jude Fenwick watch the video. They upcharge, overprice and make you think u need things u dont need.
Jude Fenwick It’s America.
Is price tag the only thing? How about lack of work ethic, dishonesty, breaching of Hippocrates oath of Do No Harm, intentional damage to the healthy tissue for personal financial gain? I’m amazed of people’s way of thinking.. Let’s do the LASIK on a person with healthy eyes and 20/20 vision, what does it matter that reading up close will be impaired? There’s so much selection of a good quality reading glasses - here
we go, the “problem is fixed”. When people don’t know their rights, don’t find them out for themselves and blindly trust those whose interest is not in public health but rather in money profit, then it’s a piece of cake to manipulate and control these individuals. They’ll gladly pay for it and even thank for it.
Petra Gallerno That’s what I thought. People are ok to destroy their healthy teeth if they have money? It doesn’t matter whether you have the money or not. It’s the question whether you need the treatment or not. It’s as easy as that. I guess people don’t understand that they only get one healthy set of teeth.
The worst thing you can say to a greedy dentist is "I haven't been to a dentist in years!"
how about when one of these dentists cover bad teeth with caps , and wait for them to start with infection leading to implants
After watching alot of marketplace, I just dont wanna buy anything anymore
Johnny Gasperson same😩
Here here
Tell me about it! I’m going to be so strict with my money when it comes to any business or service.
This show has REALLY opened my eyes.
I knew society was messed up but I didn’t know that almost everything around had some kind of deception going on or influences on how to make more money AKA greed.
Never buy anything u dont need
Same! Ive lost my trust with so called proffessionals
In my early 30's, I now know that my childhood dentist permanently destroyed my newly formed permanent teeth.
Between 11-14 he did over 20+ fillings at a considerable amount of pain to me.
My mother never questioned him, never saught out a second opinion and had a massive state funded dental plan. He drove a Porsche, that at the time I thought was really cool, now I realize that my mother's plan was paying for it.
So freaking mad. Those teeth should have lasted 40-50 years and now they are nearly all mutilated.
I feel furious and violated when I think about it.
ontheotherside3 scamers like him should be in jail so as to have their teeth fixed
Maybe you can sue??
Are you sure that you didn’t actually need those fillings? You might have done. I would investigate that further.
Same here
My dentist drives an altima.
Anyone who abuses human health needs to be behind bars. It's a crime. Simple.
Absolutely!!
The dental industry is not regulated the same as the medical industry. And this is one of the major problems with trying to hold dentists accountable. I hope there is a follow up with this investigation.
The most depressing thing here is that even those professional organizations are not willing to face the problems or even face the journalist's questions.
Most times it's because they have written instruction not to talk to the media. There is usually a PR person who handles public affairs. A lot of times PR wont talk to people like this because they know the media is just trying to skew certain things to make them look bad on purpose so its best in their interest to keep quiet. They don't have to speak with reporters at all and are usually advised against it. I was in the medical field for 8 years and plenty of people tried to shame our practice just because they werent happy with treatment, no one can force you to do any treatment, you have every option to walk away if you don't like it
Right
Medical Industry for the most part is a big SCAM filled with opportunists
They think they are "protecting" the dental profession when what they are doing is allowing the crooks to take it over at the expense of the few remaining legitimate dentists. To get licensed as a dentist, one must take Dental Board Exams. A big part of these exams is to make a treatment plan for a patient. The patient's age, finances, line of work, interests, etc are presented and every prospective dentist must write up an acceptable treatment plan for this patient. With say 100 prospects taking this Board exam, there may be two or maximum THREE variations of treatment plan. One is the best, one may be acceptable, and one may not be so good because it doesn't fit the patient, the conditions, or all the above. There is NO ANSWER to correspond with DENTISTRY AS AN "ART"!
The answers and reasoning given by the two supposed neutral experts here were total BS! Dentistry is more BLACK & WHITE than most other professions. A tooth either needs work or it does not. The type of work needed should fit the work already present in the mouth unless an entire full mouth rehabilitation is needed. This is RARE. A minimally invasive approach should be taken whenever possible. Eliminating decay and disease come first.
Restorations for cosmetic reasons are a patient's choice but are not necessary unless a patient wants to improve his or her appearance and is willing to put up with the extra work and cost over the years. Advised consent would be nice. Too many dentists are doing too much unnecessary work to drum up extra business and income for themselves with no regard for the dental health of their patients. In many cases this could be considered assault or malpractice or both. This is so rampant that dental organizations now make excuses for their members instead of getting together to clean up their act and restore dentistry to the noble profession it once was.
@@lyzziekelly Baglicker!
Now I’m questioning if the information my dentist just gave me is accurate 😫😫😫😫
Get a second or third opinion.
Always question someone who's tryna sell you something
I had a dentist tell me I needed a tooth pulled and a tooth implant because I still had a baby tooth and no replacement adult tooth. Went to another dentist and he looked at me like I was crazy, I had already lost all my baby teeth and had all my adult teeth.
@@jenn9579 that costs. Every new visit can be $200 to 300 without insurance and 100 with
@@marikiemarie7622 depends on if its done as a first time visit and preventative care. But always shop around. crowns can vary in costs from 1800-900 etc.
You have high chances to be scammed in EVERYTHING you do nowadays.....
Yesyesyes
Most definitely everyone seems to have their hand into your pockets dime or dollar rip off artists
Absolutely and it seems to be legal 😐
@@dbest19330 that's the worst part.
You took the words right out....I've noticed reports for fraud have shot up so high after COVID. Where medicine is concerned, I've learned the type of insurance you have is how you get treated. I saw a documentary which reported that those with public insurance can't schedule an appointment for months....by then, there are often folks that have serious issues. That's really scary.
I have a huge fear of dentist from several horror experiences. I finally took my son at age 8. They said he had one cavity and we made arrangements to return the following week for the "pediatric" dentist to do the work. She said he needed a ROOT canal! Then they took us to an enclosed room, my son would be put into a pappos to tie him down and I couldn't be in the room! My gut reaction was to RUN! And so we did! He NEVER complained about pain in his teeth, and I didn't want him to have a horror experience. He's 18 now and no cavities so far. Dentistry is a quakery business!
Rosemary Raplar Well done for trusting your gut! 🤗
Bravo, you were smart!
Well done!😊
Good job ❤️
My dentist recommended to remove all wisdom teeth since i had cavities in 3 of them. He said in 6 months il be hurting. Its been 12 years and Im fine
Mine were all growing in slanted, scraping against the inside of my cheeks and my dentist would say every time I went for a checkup “we’ll need to do something about the wisdom teeth” but he never pulled them or referred me to an oral surgeon. A few years later, when I was an adult and no longer covered by my father’s Blue Cross plan, they all started hurting and eventually all of them broke.
I have a decayed upper left wisdom tooth (probably have had it like that for years without realizing it cause a chunk of the tooth broke off several years ago and I suspect the tooth may have rotted from the inside-out). There's absolutely no pain or pressure coming from the tooth and I am brushing my teeth and using saltwater rinses everyday to keep my teeth clean and free of harmful bacteria.
I haven't gone to the dentist in years but when I do go back eventually I'll have my upper left wisdom tooth extracted for my convenience but I'm not too worried about it right now as long as I'm feeling no pain from it, I've had this bad tooth for sooo long already and have had absolutely no pain or sensitivity coming from it even though part of the tooth has broken off; but I'm still diligently making sure to keep it clean and free of food through brushing and saltwater rinsing regardless :)
That’s great! I wish that was my case! Mine grew in slanted and were such a pain! Finally got them out 🙌🏼
@Purple people In my head The surrounding teeth were breaking because you didn't have your wisdom teeth taken out and your jaw was too crowded. Not much wisdom on your part.
Wisdom teeth removal are the biggest scam on a worldwide scale. My dentist was super insisting in removing them but i thankfully knew the truth
The best dentist story i have is a great one. My aunt went to the dentist and he took x-rays and come back in the room and told her he was going to have to pull 4 of her teeth. The only problem is she has false teeth lol. She had just went in to have two of her false teeth fixed lol. I love that story. So you know thay did not even check her file.
false teeth can be detected through xrays tho... so its a scam.
Oh wow!
That's hilarious! That would be a good comedy bit for a TV show. "My aunt went to the dentist and he took x-rays and come back in the room and told her he was going to have to pull 4 of her teeth. The only problem is she has false teeth."
EPIC FAIL
Lolz..... my dentist just said the same thing. He has to pull out my four teeth cause there is a hole in one wisdom teeth. I told him straight up, “better not touch my other three!!” I got a plan that cost About $4000.00 which am not going to even look at it. I only need to pull that one teeth out.
"Open your wallet, I mean, mouth"!!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Put your money were your month is.. basically.. 🤑🤑🤑
😂😂😂
Z😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂this is a good one!!!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂
First thing they teach us at Dentistry school and pretty much every semester is that you should always put the patient’s needs and satisfaction before yourself or anything and definitely always put into consideration that not everyone can afford expensive treatments
Well it sounds like most of these dentists didnt attend your school
@@Will324 it seems they all went to dentist school in India. Maybe their teaching is different.
But there is no Hippocratic oath that you sign like Medical doctors do...right?
@@tentimetex we do have an oath but we don’t “sign” it we just swear the oath so really it depends on your ethics as a person
@@norealname8697 Oh right, thanks.
its company policy for a DENTIST to not look in the mouth? what!? someone educate me? lol
rebekah evangelista no one can lol
right, no one can educate her because there are no justifiable reasons for a dentist to not look into the mouth of a patient.
rebekah evangelista the irony is strong in this one
Makes no sense. Every dentist I've known had told me they the xray is nice, but nothing is diagnosed without a visual inspection.
X-rays do not tell us everything we need to know. If your dentist is not checking inside your mouth , then it is not an exam and they should not be charging for it.
I trust my dentist, she’s my mom 😂
Jack Kristensen 👍🏻. Are you sure? Lol
😂😂
You are lucky. I don't trust dentists.
🥰
Dentists are Pondscum
As a dental Assistant I can say this happens alot... I've witness it myself. Especially people with good ppo insurance .
@Licinda Stevens yes but there are receptionists who go along with it. I've experienced this when I was being ripped off.
What would you suggest to prevent this?
The Chopra one should be in jail, how did she even got to practice in Canada
i searched my current dentist on youtube and i go to the chopra dentistry n im lowk shocked cuz they were one of the better dentists i went to
When I had insurance I always had lots of cavities... as soon as I didn’t have insurance anymore my cavity problems
Lol
lol the miracle of insurance !
The same can be said for any privatized medical field. I've worked at many vet clinics as a Registered tech, and some clinics are really shady. End of the day it's a business. Shop around.
Not ethically right and the med community should fix this.
Steph K I’m 67 and I’ve seen our society evolve into such money hungry and dishonest practices in EVERY field of business. Mostly in the last 25 years. This is a sign of a third world society where everyone is taken advantage of and scams, insurance fraud and bribes are the norm.
@@joannedavis1991 i agree with u 100% I've noticed the same
Very good content. I experienced this first hand this year. Dentist can be extremely nice during checkups. One can easily overlook that the work recommended by them is actually needed or not. Even if your dental plan pays for most of it…. Don’t forget that the teeth are yours. Why would anyone want unnecessary drilling and remove good enamel for no reason. The more you go to dentist, THE MORE YOU NEED TO GO TO DENTIST. Dentists can be con artists.
Dental assistant here, a good way to stay safe is
1. Stay current on cleanings, know where your health is
2. Ask around, get a dentist other people have been satisfied with
3. Get second opinions on treatment you are unsure about
The problem is Procedure like filling doesn’t take long unless there are many cavities. Like in my last visit, I was told I have cavity and they just did it right away. I was skeptical because I brush twice a day, water floss and string floss every night. But I did it anyway. Now, I’m regretting that I said yes.
This is really helpful. As a dental assistant, do you feel that Zocdoc is a reliable resource?
man that old dentist expert lady was really the wrong person to ask. sure sounds like she's trying to defend the profession.
@Spenser Roger
Yeah, I found that really problematic. I mean there really is NO justification for a variation in pricing like that. In addition, I think the fact that no one would come on camera at the end to discuss what's really going on and why there is such wide variation is enough to tell me all I need to know, which is basically that as the patient/customer, we are at the mercy of the dentist to know what is truly the case and what is not in terms of dental work. It's pretty scary that there is such a lack of consistency. The fact that this segment left us with very little answers to this very real problem is also somewhat unsettling.
I think you mean defend the fraud. All the profession needs is honesty with patients. If the dentist has poor enough business management skills that they can't make ends meet without overcharging for unnecessary and often mutilating procedures, then like any other business they must fail, just as any other business cannot just defraud customers to make more money.
However in this particular case, I noticed something familiar about the demeanor of this woman. She reminded me very much of several immoral people I've met over the years in different professions, who have no regard for fellow human beings. I wish that in the short space of a sentence or two that I could extensively elaborate on the similarities but briefly a few commonalities are the person talks at you not to you, only long enough to scratch the surface of a question and then proceed on steering a conversation towards giving you the impression that they are beyond question and vaguely altruistic. Many of them also seem to gravitate towards manic depressive prescription drugs, as if their conscience keeps trying to interfere with their agenda and they will get very nasty very quickly if you question anything they say beyond a superficial level, no matter how polite and innocent your exchange with them was.
Annie Banana Im currently in the Air Force I wonder if military (on base) dentistry would be more truthful, I imagine they wouldn't have as much to lose or gain compared to privately owned dentist associations? Also if your base doesn't offer certain dental options like braces, fillings, etc. you will ultimately pay out of pocket for an civilian dentist... finding out the hard way $$$mh.
Exactly what I was thinking!
Yeah, I wasn't so sure about using her advice as a baseline.
Imagine how expensive this test was lol
The costs of the procedures were a lot but I think most of the appointments were free consultations or regular check up appointments
*Me as a dentist watching this* 👀
I got 3 cavity fillings after not having gone to the dentist for 6-8 years. Then 2 months later my dentist said I had developed 8 cavities. When she came to look at my dental pictures she just kept saying "omg ive never seen this before you developed 8 cavities". Asked her several times to show me which teeth had the cavities and kept being vague and didn't specify where my cavities were and just said i needed to get them filled asap. Went to another dentist and he said i didn't have any cavities 💀he also prescribed me special fluoride toothpaste to put in my trays at night to help prevent any cavities
they said a cleaning costs $500 that is outrageous.
Deep cleaning where they have to get around and beneath your gum can cost that much, plus you get shots for numbing. but regular cleaning should be around 150 dollar. at least in the US
joe S I pay 20 bucks for a deep cleaning hahahah
Ryan Griffith my cleaning is 30!
They said she required multiple cleanings which would total $500
It's called Scaling and Root Planning (SRP). The patient has periodontal disease and sub gingival calculus with excessive pocket depths, otherwise she wouldn't need a "deep cleaning" SRP. These are split into 2 appointments usually because it requires a lot of work/time to remove those deposits and usually requires anesthetic.
I used to work in a dental office for 7 years and I can confidently say that majority of dentist only care about money. Profits is of the utmost importance.
If the dentist didn't make money how would you have had a job?
I had 2 teeth extracted from private dentist for £120 so how much profit made from that? And my scale and polish was £40 every 3 months.
terriesmith1981 U saw maybe 10 dentist who are greedy and u generalize all the millions of dentist around the world to be money greedy???? wow
I hear most dentists treat they're dental assistants horribly as well. I've actually been in the chair when a dentist has talked down to his assistant. I felt really awkward in that situation. It seems that many new dentists are in the profession just solely for the money and don't really care for the patients and his/her employees. Not saying all dentists are bad, but many this day and age are.
That is the same with every business, u dont open a business to lose money do you?
I was recently scammed by a dentist. I am so angry.
you are not alone
@@freetheworld12 I was scammed again by 2 other dentists after writing that original post. I moved to a new dental team and they are great, knowledgeable and honest. There is hope. I did my own research on oral health care so I don't have to rely on bad dentists.
The scariest scammers belong to the dental and medical industry, Imagine messing with a person's health for money.
This must be treated as a crime.
Not saying medical malpractice doesn't exist, but dentists are much worse scammers than doctors.
@@komfykoala6083 agreed.
Someone has to pay for those fancy houses, cars, vacations!
Trust no one. Professionals are just like any other people. They are there to make money. If you encounter any type of scammer, you should at the very least write a review so other people can avoid that scammer.
I started going to the dentist regularly only in my 20s because my mom always thought dentists would rip us off. Luckily my dentist is amazing and honest. I found out I had no cavities and my wisdom teeth do not need to be removed! I’m super grateful as I didn’t go to the dentist for +15 years 🥺
This makes me wanna be a dentist to help people and keep them away from scammers.
That's why I became a dentist 😁
@@jeffmcknight4818 hey there would u mind doing me a favor
At age 31 a dentist recommended considerable work and warned that if I did nothing, all my teeth would fall out by the time I hit 50. Now, at 68, I not only still have them all, but semi-annual checkups result in 15 minutes of cleaning. No issues. Ever. Very blessed for having good teeth. As Yogi Berra noted, predictions are very difficult - especially about the future.
I'm glad you followed Yogi's advice.
That expert professor is trying hard to defend all these scamming dentists.
Why are you assuming that they are trying to scam her? An expert tells you they aren't. But you know better? Isn't it possible that perhaps different dentists can have different, equally valid opinions regarding treatment plans? Or maybe you didn't put much thought into your comment. For your sake, I'll go with that explanation.
I noticed that also Kanye.
Some of them are just telling you from a variety of procedures they can perform on you. It is up to you, the patient, to choose which ones you want your dentist to perform. It's not like they're forcing it on you.
Amir Hedayati But some pressure you to do it right now and some say you might need it in the future but not now. It's a big difference. It happened to me.
mam362 did you watch the video? It’s literally in your face
"Treating the plan not the patient."
Why do insurance companies let them get away with it?
I want to the doctor once for a big hole in my tooth, they said I would have to come in like 5 different times to get it filled and I would have to wear a tooth protector for a month or two. So I didn’t except . Then over the summer I want to Turkey on vacation and want to the dentist there. the dentist literarily filled the hole in 10 minutes and my tooth is good to this day.
When you "want" to the dentist once for a big hole in your toof and were told it wold require 5 visits to "get it filled" I suspect you did not understand what was being suggested.Different languages definitely present communication issues. Remember it likely took years of neglect to create such a situation. Then you went to a supposedly competent dentist in Turkey that literally filled the hole in 10 minutes. It has been about a year since your original post. I would highly suspect you have had significant problems with this tooth and likely had this toof removed by a great dentist in Turkey that you trust. . If it was a molar tooth I would suspect there are still root fragments remaining in your jaw after attempts were made to remove the infected toof with a vice grip.
Every time I hear that high pitched drilling noise I get goosebumps and my teeth start tingling. Not a kid anymore but still have this fear.
It seems the whole damn world has turned into a bunch of crooks.! Is it safe to do anything anymore in modern times.? You can't even buy a stick of chewing gum without getting robbed..
Stanley Stalvey amen to that
there will be judgment day for everyone of us. Some will be happy and proud of the life they lived, but others will have regrets and cry. every single seconds of our entire life will be revealed like an open book in the after life.
@@rogermichou8654 Amen, I have dental problems and feel like dentists are just making a quick buck at my suffering...I tell God to please take my life early because I don't like the pain :[
Total upper and lower Implant placements for tooth sensitivity WTF
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Don't swear
and a kidney replacement maybe?
My girlfriend had dental insurance paid $76 for new patients & X-rays I didn't have insurance ipayed $255 for same
@@JaneDoe-qm2gt insurance is nice but how much does she pay a month? Add that onto the price.
Previous dentist I went to clearly and rudely shamed me for my cavities when I was 12. She said “WOW I have never seen someone with THIS many cavities your age!!” She said it with this judgmental and rude tone. They were very harsh with their words AND the treatment. Even though they know I have anxiety and struggle with creating good habits. I never went back.
I'm on a CBC watching spree, these videos are flipping awesome! CBC News is doing a public service to all who watch.
I don't think there should be "interpretation" in anything that involves my bones
Please go to medical school for 8-12+ years and then tell me if you feel the same way. Otherwise shush. Those who are not in the medical profession should not comment on a doctors practice, there is actually such a thing as a 'second opinion' for a reason, one doctor might catch what another misses or they might recommend lesser treatment, but they always have to give a solid medical analysis as to why, you can't just make up tx for no damn reason, it's against the hippocratic oath.yes there are dirty doctors out there, but don't say that there is no such thing as a medical interpretation when there actually is
@@lyzziekelly When the difference in opinions could mean hundreds to thousands of dollars, expert opinions should be more consistent. To tell someone they can't have an opinion on a lack of consistency when it affects them just because they didn't go to med school is ridiculous.
@@lyzziekelly I'm not in the medical field but I'm glad to see some sense here. Dentistry is an interesting one because, like that one Dr. said, there CAN be a perverse profit motive. I'm generalizing, but when most people have someone rooting around in their mouth with a light in their eyes they're more suggestible. There might be signs of problems developing in the future and some dentists may be more aggressive in their treatment plans. I think there needs to be some more oversight regarding the 'cosmetic' aspects of it.
Yellow Penguin Yeah, but there should be a system where they are aware of the cost and say we can do X and it’s covered or we can do Y but it’ll cost you more out of pocket. It seemed like the dentists in this video weren’t as up front about telling the patient about their options and the cost differences between those options
Yes, I agree that every dentist should provide you with possible choices instead of pushing for the most expensive one.
Getting a second and third opinion also costs considerable amount of money. I don't know about Canada, but in my country its about 20 EUR for a visit and then it can get up to 35 EUR for an X-ray scan. Visit three doctors - and you have lost 150 EUR already.
I got lucky with an honest dentist - she wasn't even afraid to correct herself. At first check, she said I might need to replace a filling, but then she did more in-depth checking and told that the filling is actually strong, it just requires some polishing to look white and clean again.
Makes me feel very very very lucky to have dentist who I feel like is honest and doesn’t suggest work that doesn’t need to be done.
I'm a dentist who work in the border of Mexico-California, and I've seen a lot of cases like these. About two weeks ago, one patient came to me to probably do a root canal or maybe an extraction because a US. Dentist told her. I took a closer look and a x-ray and the problem was just one huge cavity, with no decay! And the nerve was very healthy, so I just made a white filling and voila! She even didn't need anesthesia because the nerve was to far away from the cavity and healthy. From original quote of $3500 from root canal, build up and crown, I just charge her a $65 regular filling. And she was very happy! 😀
Good,👌
Im also a dentist
Good dentist!
What is your practice called🤗
Which clinic are you in? I'm thinking of going to Mexico for work
I love my dentist. I told him I wanted braces and he told me " don't waste your money on a slight over bite."I just go in to clean my teeth and have him check my teeth. 1 hr tops...covered by insurance.
Don’t trust these thieves. I went to a biological doc grad from Columbia u. To take out my almagman silver filing and he made it worse they are sensitive when biting down. I have to get expensive crown on all now. I fully trusted him in the beginning acted like he cared. I only went for cleaning very 6months and i had a pain in one tooth he said its from clenching teeth due to stress. Doesn’t even do x-ray and after a yr i got absences. He purposely wanted me to get expensive procedure -root canal and put onlay instead of crown and got abscess my right side face all swollen another root canal and wanted to put a crown this time. He never fixed my tooth in the first place and just wanted to put another crown!. I went for several other opinions. Always get a lot of opinions first!
Beumadine Sweevy so you don’t get cleaning at all? I got so many cavity bc i didn’t and Ever since i get cleaning every 6 months i haven’t gotten cavities in 10yrs. Now i met this crook doctor ruined my teeth. So you just brush, floss mouthwash?
The one woman just sounds like she doesn't want to speak out against another dentist. To me, drilling into a perfectly healthy tooth sounds like a very big deal!
It is
Is your dentist ripping you off?
Yes. Literally. They ripped my toof out.
So where just gonna ignore the fact that he's holding on to a celebrities rotten tooth... I dont care how famous you are thats weird and disgusting.. Its not that serious, the obsession with famous people is unbelieveable 🤮
Tray he’s a dentist he works with teeth all day long. I cannot believe you have seen all these scum bags and you’ve chosen to comment on the one nice dentist. Shame.
Tray right!! Who gives a crap about a tooth. It was probably the maid who sold it to him. Lol
Its very unnatural to have anybody ROTTEN tooth. He's weird.
I had a dentist who destroyed my teeth by scamming me like this. Half assed the work and damaged.
The dentist I went to as a kid is actually in jail for fraud, soooo. Next ones will be my former dentist.
My 8 unit permanent bridge didn't fit and dentist said it can't be used. Dentist said its because my gums are still healing from extractions done 3 weeks ago and the gum changed shape. He said sorry it doesn't fit. Ummm, so he wants me to pay them another $8000 for a new one!!! What! This can't be right. I feel like I'm being cheated and defrauded.
@@ConsiderTheCrows it takes three months for the gum to heal properly before the implant placement can take place. He is a con. Report him to the dentist association for professional misconduct.
I had a temp dentist work on a cavity on a far-back tooth and she didn't like that I wasn't taking part in her conversation about weddings and travel with the assistant and proceeded to drill a line along my gum. It wasn't sensitive until the numbing wore out, I went back and verbally complained to them, they 'fixed' it, but there is still a drill-line.
This is in vancouver, BC in the last 2 years...
@@royr1016 Reach dental seemed promising, but I guess they grew irritated with their clientele over the few years they became operational... Had to complain about the dentist for a shite job and -surprise surprise, a shite fixer-upper of that job. The place is being renovated at the moment so its an overall unpleasant experience.
I'm going to try a federally funded dental office next, I hope those exist here... wish me luck
@@___erika Sorry to hear about this awful experience. I just started practicing as a dentist, but holy cow! The motives why anyone would do that are beyond my comprehension. Things are A LOT different in Europe, tho. I try to be extra careful and gentle with each patient that comes through the door (maybe also because of the nervousness caused by me being a beginner?). But that sort of behaviour is absolutely unacceptable, if true.
Solution: Have a dentist family member.
yeah because everyone has a family member that's a dentist, right.
Tristan Crawford I do. My mom :>
Get-The-Lead-Out.45 well, I do. People feel bad for me. But why? FREE HEATH CARE!
Awesome. I wish my mom was a dentist. :)
Dont need that. A small investment in learning dentistry yourself will help you. Dentist school is more so business training than actual anatomy. The anatomy stuff is easy and you can just learn the basics. Also, simply practice good hygiene. Dentists dont reccomend this, but only go to them when youe tooth genuinely hurts or when you notice that you have a problem that cannot be resolved by brushing your teeth.
My dentist recommended that I remove all my teeth in case I need to use them for some unprecedented emergency.
This is gold
As a dental auxiliary for nearly 40 years (8 years assistant, 30 + years as a hygienist, now retired) I worked for 3 dentists who were amazingly honest. I know there are some real shysters out there. I wouldn't work for a criminal. Sadly there's way too many dentists for the population and they upsell in order to make a living and pay off monstrous school bills. Thanks to Dr. Dale Martin, Dr. Ian Pung and Dr. Craig Smith for being the best and most honest people for the job of dentistry and letting employees work in an environment of honesty with our patients!!!
Capitalism doing the world good 🙂
I live in NY. 14 years ago when I was a teen I remember my dentist used to schedule fillings like every two weeks. Filling over fillings, she claimed I had Cavities on cavities. One time she even told me that she will pay her daughter college tuition with me, because of all the cavities I had. Next thing you know after pretty much 6 months of back and forth. I go back to the dentist and there's a new doc. And went he got my charge, he told the assistant... i don't know why she had so much work to be done listed here. I don't see anything here. And he proceeded to dismiss me. Unfortunately, I don't remember the name of these docs. and my parents didn't bother to follow up or perhaps sue lol
everything in life is a scam
bananaman22 pretty much 😭
even ur gf :P
C'mon not everything
No not everything
Difference is I walk in tell them I’m poor, and let them know I can’t get frivolous work done.
Then you tell them you can’t afford that work lol I’m poor so I use cash so you get a better deal
@NY UK it's always your choice... They don't force the treatment upon you.
@@livinghope1561 Except you can’t make a choice when you don’t have the knowledge, and dentists take advantage of that lack of knowledge.
As a Dental Assistant I can tell you this is common practice. I worked with a woman in a dental office for children. Teeth have 5 surfaces. If a child had a cavity on 2 surfaces she would automatically open the entire baby (primary) tooth, do a pulpectomy , "root canal" so to speak and charge the maximum amount to medicare. I always use to wish it was her kids in the chair. Another dentist use to tell her patients that a mobile tooth can be fixed with a root canal. I have worked with honest amazing dentist who would never touch a tooth unless necessary. Ask for your treatment plan and do some research. If it feel wrong it probably is.
So do dentists lie
@@tjj6362 Of course but there are honest dentists too.
@@pattydonna8549 omg! I didn't think they do. Thanks. Now I am not afraid
@@tjj6362 You should not be afraid. My childhood dentist was honest and I knew that before entering the dental field. She wouldn't change an amalgam filling (silver) for a composite filling ( white filling) just because you prefer them and have insurance. She would say, I don't fix something that isn't broken. I also worked with dentist that have good morals. Some not so much but I think you can sense it as a client. If you have doubts, get a second opinion. Some procedures cost thousands of dollars and not necessary. When I was raising my children and not working, I had gone to see a dentist for tooth sensitivity caused by gingival recession, he suggested I get all my teeth crowned because my occlusion ( bite) was off. It would have cost around 30 thousand dollars. I walked out laughing. I am mid 40's and I can guarantee you I will have all my teeth in my 80's if I live that long.
It’s really hard to find a good dentist who genuinely cares about the patient, and not the money.
When I first moved to a new area, I went to a dentist who claimed that I needed 3 root canals, and a new bridge.
It didn’t sound right so I went to get a second opinion at a different practice. That dentist examined my teeth and told me that all i needed were fillings, and that my bridge was fine. He was even trying to save me money by while making my treatment plan!
So blessed and glad that I found his practice, it’s now my new go-to🦷😷
This makes me wonder. When I was 21 I got a great check up. No cavities. Wisdom teeth came in straight. No issues.
Two years later, I knew I had a cavity. Went to the dentist and ended up with fillings in almost every tooth. Took a month to get all the work done. Twice a week I got numbed and gassed, drilled and filled...
How I went from zero cavities to more than two dozen in less than two years (with the same great hygiene that I've always practiced) always baffled me.
Now I wonder...
My teeth are ruined. I need all of the fillings replaced. I had perfect teeth until that dentist.
From now on, I'm getting a second opinion.
+Pepper Conchobhar Same here! Except it was when I was younger, maybe 19ish. I had a number of cavities filled in a couple days. I decided to have them all done as quick as possible. Come to think of it, my childhood dentist did the same thing. Lots of cavities, lots of fillings. I never questioned the two dentist because I'm not the greatest at keeping my teeth cleaned and I eat a lot of sweets, drink lots of soda, etc. Now after watching this, I wish I would have gotten second opinions before I had all this work done to my teeth. Noe my teeth look metalic on the bottoms. I know I had a few cavities and they were probably right, but I don't think I had as many as they told me.
Pepper Conchobhar same happened to me. I felt like the more I went to the dentist the more they told me was wrong. And I brush and floss regularly. Now I'm too bothered to even go when I know I have a cavity because it's so damn expensive and they never address the issue I know needs fixing they do other things first.
Vociferon Herald of the Winter Mist but how can you trust the second opinion?
That almost happened to me in Hopkington Massachusetts with Dr. Joe Menna but I could smell a rat. I actually had no cavities. Also when I was 12 a dentist pulled 4 of my 6 year molars even tho only one was decayed. They are just horrible men these 2.
When I was a teen my mom took me to a dentist for a regular cleaning, that dentist told her I had bone disease and that I would lose all my teeth by the time I was 21 if he didnt give me a "deep cleaning". He told my mom she could pay with her credit card....only 3,000. Needless to say my mom got a different opinion and they did not mention any issue. I'm 31....my teeth are fine.
@Michael Tekle What do you mean, "so what?". I read it as a complete sentence.
Because Dentist's knows best. Thats why. Im a Dentistryy student and I would say that I have encountered teens that have a poor oral hygiene. Deep calculus on their teeth and really needs cleaning beacause if not, it will cause periodontal disease that might destroy the jaw bone. It really depends, luckily for you, must be very terified so you opted for a good oral hygiene and made the situation of ur teeth better. Its very difficult to explain but I hope u understood my point
I’m glad that I found a dentist that I trust. He’s a quiet man but he knows his teeth.
I'm so lucky to be Finnish, no dentist competition as government pays dentists wages. Extra work or harder operations doesn't mean extra money.
welp I guess it's time for me to relocate to get good a good honest dental check up lol
I think even the NHS in the UK seems better than Canada. The government pays half the cost, but dentists only ever recommend the minimum, so usually only £20 or £50 every 6 months :-)
+Skyler Rich They get paid per thing they do e.g. 2 crowns would be band 3 at £233 X 2 for each crown. The dentist would get paid double this so around £932 - they do have an incentive but they don't generally rip people off because they are that busy that they can make the same money doing general checkups. The band jumps you pay are a bit odd band 1 is £20, then 2 is £55 then 3 is around £235. Emergency treatment is always £20. There are a few things that are cheaper private such as white fillings as these are around £70 or would be band 3, but the dentist would always tell you this as all NHS dentists are also private. You also need to be dentally fit to join the scheme, so dentists do make a lot out of helping people register. There are some exclusively private dentists and dental insurance is available but it's generally not worth it as they have low caps on them.
BassBoostMadness I'm not sure what you mean? They have the choice whether to allow National Health Service patients or whether to allow private only?
***** Its all about humanity, but at least they aren't ripping off people by doing useless operations, I am far more concerned of that than going to dentist as pain occurs. Also if they don't do their job correctly e.g being lazy workers, we can straight up sue them. Wouldn't call it fail system
I’ve been told that my kid needed like four fillings. Had a second opinion Lies he didn’t have not one cavity. Always get a second opinion. Trust your gut if you feel no pain then don’t do it.
Just cuz you have no pain dosen't mean there is a cavity . Cavities can be prevented before they even become painful or larger . Caries can be in the enamel or the dentin and not hurt
Smart
Just because you don’t feel pain doesn’t mean nothing is wrong. With teeth, once you feel pain, the issue has reached the NERVE and at that point you’re going to need more treatment than you would have originally needed.
Educate yourself and trust no ond
This makes me wonder. My poor kid has had 4 or 5 fillings and 1 root canal. We're religious about caring for her teeth but her dentist insisted it was due to her being premature and having weak emenal on her baby teeth. I'm thinking we should get a second opinion 🤔
Yes they are! I had two different dentist work on my teeth, but both based in the same building. In my teens, my first dentist filled with silver. A couple years later, i needed to get them replaced. The second dentist that refilled my teeth was surprised to see me filled with silver and wondered who in the world would do this on my teeth. YOUR COWORKER!
Right!!! 😅😅
Damn this is deep. Glad they put this out here. I'll be more selective for the dentist I choose next.
A dentist once told me I had a cavity and needed a filling. Having never had a cavity and being a twice-daily brusher for over 20 years, I was surprised. So I went to another dentist for a second opinion. Turns out my hunch was right, and I didn’t have any cavities at all. Not only did they try to get me to pay significantly more than I needed to, but even more alarmingly, I would have undergone an unnecessary medical procedure. The unethicality of this is so high that it should be illegal. Would you agree to letting me drill a hole in your perfectly good tooth just to refill it and charge you hundreds of dollars? What, no takers?!
You're lucky. British dentists ruined my teeth as a child by drilling unnecessarily.
@Shade Not my experience. Unfortunately! Perhaps you've heard otherwise? They all want to make big $$$.
When my dad was young every time he would go to the dentist they would say he has cavities and would drill his teeth with no anesthesia or numbing shots. About 5 years after they stopped going the dentist got charged with fraud and died in jail of a heart attack
Served the dentist right I guess
The part that surprises me the most is the amount of people that are surprised by this.
Experienced this dishonesty firsthand more times than I care to admit!
went in to get a routine checkup told me I had 6k worth of work needed to be done!! I have great teeth said second opinion dentist...
They need to move that logo off the screen cuz u can't read what they saying and some of those dentist need and should be sued.
Same thing with eye exams.
They wanted to "make sure my insurance would cover my glasses" then they all came over and were like "wow u have great insurance". During eye exam the doc wants to put drops in eyes because my insurance will cover it, didn't ask me if I wanted the drops. (10 years of wearing glasses and never had eyedrops before I got this insurance).
I worked in a Dental insurance just resigned last month. If your dentist advised you to have basic/major works that will cost you a lot of money and you felt it wasn't necessary don't go for it right away find a 2nd opinion. And I highly advised to asked your dentist to send a pre-estimate/pre-determination to your insurance for you to know what would be your out of pocket and also Dental Insurance can determine if you really needed that procedure they have experts in the field, they will req. x-rays, charting, every info. to verify if that procedure is really needed. PS. Insurance will never pay even if you have a full coverage for the procedure if they found out that it is not necessary.
Be wise choose your dentist.
The only issue is that the dentist can go in and purposefully ruin your tooth and then send that to the insurance to make it look as if it was necessary. I imagine they would not like you being in control and would want to one up you in their sick way.
Dentists have taken advantage of myself and my family many times over.
When I was younger before switching dentists, my dentist said I needed so many fills then when I got older the new dentist I had said, "You didn't need those."
Go to a big chain like aspen they won't do that
+Tyler Walter It still is pretty sad though in this day and age professionals do that 😧
+Shannon Catney I know I agree with that totally
+Tyler Walter I watch some of these and go, "Wow." They have one on here about fixing things and the plumbers who come to fix it. They set up basic problems and still some people say, "Oh you need this and this..." it is just pathetic.
About 10 years ago,.I had a dentist tell me I had 4 cavities and needed 4 crowns and a night guard. I went to a recommended dentist from a relative and only had 1 cavity! Total cost $15.00!! I saved $3000
You shouldn't always trust relatives either.
the night guards at drugstore are juts as good for $20!
@Aaron Sochaczewski WHY ARE YOU ASSUMING THAT?
That doesn’t mean the first dentist was scamming you. Your second dentist may just have been more conservative and trying a wait and see approach while the first probably saw small cavities that he felt would inevitably get larger. For people with excellent hygiene, a more conservative approach may be fine. For people with poorer dental hygiene, a more aggressive approach could be good to fill the cavity before a root canal is necessary.
I count myself lucky that my dentist is great and never pushing me to do things I don't need or want. Hope to keep her for many years to come!
My dentist is amazing! She only tells us what we need, no extras. Took many years to find a dentist like the one I have! I can't believe some people have to deal with this!
What my dental ethics professor said was that the CBC marketplace approached him to do the interview for this, but they were disappointed when mainly good things were mentioned. They couldn't get the "juicy" story out of him.
He told the class that CBC marketplace only approached dentists with terrible reviews and many complaints.
Ali Emad Well.....maybe those particular ones shouldn't be practicing, and some of the good ones should be regularly investigated......
Well, Dr. Emad, I hope you learned something here.
This show covers basically everything I ever wanted to know about haha. Canada is dope.
They are going the way of Europe. For such an open and free place. You'd think they'd like you know. Freedom and liberties more than they do
@She-li-a, Not dope, sick, or is it bad.
@Shelia - the situation is same everywhere, not only in Canada.
Every dentist I've ever been to was a crook.
It is sicken how so many dentists rip people off. I experienced so many bad ones. All about dollar sign. So sad. They know people only got two set of teeth, yet some of them purposely do things to damage so they can treat work that makes it worst.
I believe that most people do not realize that they may have unnecessary dental work done in their teeth as people do not know about their mouths.
Love these little specials. Canada releases some quality television. Canada looks like an upscale America lmao
This is the most accurate comparison I have ever read 🤣🇨🇦👌
We are the USA's classy sister country ;)
No USA is better
Bob Tho what is so upscale about America? I envy you guys in Canada...
Canada ❤
these are so good omg. Canadian shows are so good
I wish we had more Canadian shows. Even though they seem low budget they still seem high quality. Dragon's Den is simple and very cool and so is Marketplace.
I am so incredibly glad I grew up with a good, honest dentist. I currently see both a prosthodontist and an oral surgeon for some needed work (I was born missing 12 adult teeth), and both barely touched on cosmetic things only AFTER my main concerns were addressed. And when I told them I wasn't interested, they dropped it immediately.
There still are good people out there.
Jessica P how was it like to not have 12 adult teeth?
My dentist said I have a showing 8 cavities 10 weeks later a new dentist told me I have perfect teeth no cavities
man gland my mom is a honest dentist and that I have never had a cavity in my life. she has so many stories of people she use to work with ripping people off with things that they did not need or doing a poor job so you have to come again. tips for anyone that goes to a doctor or dentists always double check with a reliable source.
There are crooks in every profession.
I really doubt that. How many janitors do you know that are stealing everything they clean? Lol.
Wize Guy please define profession
Someone that gets a university degree to join a well-known group of people to continue a career?
I once went to a dentist after 10 years since i did my last cleaning for another cleaning. I hardly rarely flossed and when they did an x-ray for my teeth, they claimed I had 3 small cavities beneath my gum line and urgently recommended me a drill and fill operation. I said let me think about it and I did my research that drilling would have to open new gaps just to fill in a tooth. I didn't like this extra bill. So i began to floss everyday as I was recommended and when I went to another cleaning some months later, they did not do an x-ray, but they said they found no indication of any cavity. Weird. So i would not call dentistry a standard practice and procedure. I say always do your research, find different opinions and do not rush things. Make comparisons of your x-ray to different dentist and learn how ro read your teeth x-rays to know if u have a real cavity or not. The dentist claimed i have none during my last visit.
I like my dentist. I went in after not going to a dentist for 10 years because of bad experiences. He fills 2 small cavities, gives me prescription toothpaste to reverse some other damage, gives me tips on how to better take care of my teeth. After that, every time I go in, he looks at my teeth, smiles, says "No news is good news!" and sends me home. 👍