Theseus sucks, actually - Greek Mythology Explained
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Can I just say the new designs for Hades, Persephone, Aphrodite and basically most of gods that appear here are amazing, especially Hades, that new look is a massive upgrade, all those small details and small changes really make a difference
(Edit) 😮 That, that is a lot of likes, thanks everyone
Nah, hades was already perfekt
Exactly! They look so gorgeous!!
@@abbycollins I also thing Artemis is an improvement, from what I remember the old look was kind of generic looking, but this design is a lot more unique, I hope we see some redesigns for the Norse Gods
@@Mecha-tron201Artemis has GOT to be my favourite redesign by far she looks like she’d actually belong in the woods lol
Honestly I always loved how the original "just a guy" Hades and goth girl Persephone looked
But the new ones look nice
Me: Well, he's not a jerk; he's stupid.
Theseus: *Kidnaps Helen of Sparta while she's 12 and keeps her around in order to marry her when she grows up.*
Me: Okay, he's a stupid jerk.
A jerk that inspired drake apparently lol
I like to imagine that stupidity came about following his battle with the Minotaur due to brain damage as the Minotaur got several good hits in during the fight.
@@GhostBear3067it's because he's a son of Poseidon, he has seaweed for brains
Didn't both left her in Sparta due to her being only 12?
@@SirsasthNigam. Helen was from Sparta, Theseus kidnapped her and took her to another place
I mean, it’s Greek mythology.
It’s also Theseus. The only reason he’s not literally the worst (mortal) is because Agamemnon exists.
Mixed with histoography, you have to explain how the same guy 👦 funded so many cities and people!
Well, Perseus and Heracles were good heroes so not all of greek mythology
@@nromk Easy: Sony Pictures was probably fighting with Walt Disney Studios over who gets to make the most money off of movies about characters who first appeared in a [Theseus] Comic. Meanwhile, Paramount Pictures still holds the legal rights to make most of the money on movies starring or titled [Heracles] so [Heracles] never gets to star in a movie and only rarely appear in them. And when he does appear, it has to be under a different name like [Hercules].
@kingofdragons7 Sorry to tell you, but Heracles wasn't a good person compared to Perseus
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Bro the way that hades and Persephone stared at each other like, “they really think they’re slick?”
Favorite part about that was the Beavis and Butthead-esque laughs out of Theseus and Pirithous
Ah, yes, Theseus the Assless. In some stories, when ya boi was stuck to snake chair, he was GLUED to it. And when Heracles came to yoink him free, his butt stayed behind.
gyatt nerf 💔
Considering his history with women, he clearly couldn't be trusted with it.
And on that day, Theseus lost his buns at the chair 😔
Soo that means he's an asshole
Thus the reason the Athenians thinks why they have thin thighs, being the descendants of Thesus
“Hi! I was a woman before, but now I'm one of the strongest man on earth!”
“Gee whiz! I wonder what sort of interesting plots ancient greek authors will give you!”
“I die immediately.”
When I’m in a being killed off contest and my opponent is literally any Greek hero ever (except Perseus):
Apparently he was killed for his hubris
Damn, Pseudo-Apollodorus contributing to the trans version of the bury your gays trope
Thats myths for ya, whoever gets to tell the next tale continue as they want. Its like the original dc and marvel without any alternative universes nor editors trying to reign in. I can imagine someone really not liking her-his story (pre-christian transphobe? lol) because he appears to be brought just to be killed, and in a kind of mocking way 'oh youre impervious? Then you will be buried. By fir trees. By dumb horse men'
That or 2 different authors were fighting for popularity. 'No you wont make a new and impervious snowflake!' - the biggest Theseus fan probably.
Anyway the other one responded by having the great Theseus be stupidly pushed from a cliff. And thats probable the cause of one the most violent tavern fights of the classic era
Technically not dead, he was not dead. He was immortal he was just buried by getting wacked by trees.
"My ex-wife still misses me... BUT HER AIM IS GETTIN' BETTER!"
You see it’s funny because marriage is terrible
Hahahahahahahaha
“HER AIM ID GETTING BETTER....
HER AIM IS GETTING BETTER”
Beautiful i'm sure whoever said that did not 'eat Kids'
@@feliceabbondante5183it was Heaven's punishment for their terrible taste in everything
"You are bold, Grant! I'll GRANT you that... I ain't taking you for GRANT-ed... GRANT me my wish!"
the persephone resdesign is so good😭😭
“The only one who gets to kidnap my wife is me!” - Hades, husband of the year
Did you get in to Greek Mythology just recently? Because Hades is actually pretty tame compared to his little bros., Poseidon and Zeus.
Compared to other characters from Greek myths, that's honestly not that much of a sarcastic statement.
@@moviemaestro800 well, Socrates in Plato Cratylus, said that he is best thing ever!
@@videogollumer well to be fair both Posiden and zues spend half of their time raping and kidnapping beautiful Greek mortals or goddess also when they are not doing that they interfere with mortals lives which Hades has not done that. (except for the kidnapping part he did that with Persephone)
That's not even sarcasm really, he doesn't have many competitors. It's basically him, Dionysus, Eros, Persius, Erebus (Nyx's husband, who doesn't do much,) and Hypnos (who spends most of his time sleeping)
Edit: I might have forgotten a couple, but the list is small
It’s so funny to me how all the other mythological figures have gotten redesigns, but Hercules is basically the same
"IT'S HERACULES!"
You can’t fix perfection
The lion thong is historically accurate in every age.
"I never ate anyone. Except Theseus, but he was a belland." -Minotaur (Stray Gods)
" I never ate anyone... Except Theseus but he was a bellend"
As a half British person (extremely sad), I see "bellend" and immediately hear a British accent in my head
@FoodManTheGuy well yeah this quote is from a musical video game called stray gods and the minotaur had a british accent In it
@omarsalem1219 Brit recognise Brit
That line SLEW me, I love Asterion so much
If Jake was a Greek god, I’d sacrifice all my goats to him.
yes
@@jakelin406you mean cows but I digress.
@@chanceraphael328 why did you @ me
You'd only have to sacrifice the fat and bones too so that's a deal.
What will Jake be a god of?
Jake Doubleyoo is like the modern day equivalent to the ancient scholars of Greece and in thousands of years his videos will probably be obsessed over for future generations to come like how it is right now. I find it funny that despite the development of man there will always be a bunch of people who find an immense joy in history and nerdy things. As is the continuity of humans :) .
A scholar-bard
OH MY GODD THE DESIGNS ARE SO BEAUTIFULLLLL
"What part of aro/ace you did not understand?!"
arrow ace XDD
8:10 You could have said "And I thought MY future in-laws hated me!".
For anyone wondering, the Centaurs are indeed Pirithous cousins.
Pirithous mother is Dia, and his reputed father is Ixion. But his actual father is Zeus, who had him in the form of a horse (?) With Dia. Ixion for his part claimed he slept with Hera, so Zeus sent a cloud nymph (a Nephele) with the shape of Hera to see if Ixion would indeed lay with her. And he did, so Zeus became piss off and killed Ixion.
The Nephele cloud in question for some reason gave birth to the centaur race as result.
Ah, the technicalities of your stepmother also being your aunt.
What the fuc?
@@videogollumermaybe look up the family ladder of the ptolomes . . .
Ixion and Nephele had a normal human child named Centaurus and one way or another had sex with the mares of Diomedes that lead to a race of half horse half man creatures which Centaurus the father of these creatures called centaurs after himself
6:58 Hades and Persephone got a killer redesign
she’s really a goth now
AAaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I GET IT
Kudos to Jake for the accurate (RUclips safe) Minoan clothing.
Thank you for adding the story of Caeneus! It’s one of my favourite tragic Greek myths
can u explain it to me pls? i know poseidon raped him and turned him to a man, but i dont know the reason to it. did he want to be a man?
I love the bronze age inspiration for the character designs in this video, especially the little detail of Aphrodite's makeup based on that one statue
Lycomedes: Everything the light touches will be your kingdom.
Lycomedes, 5 seconds later: Long live the King!
3:40 Amazing attention to detail, having the left side of Antiope's left breast cut off!
It was said that the amazons cut off their left breast because it wasnt comfortable to use a bow with them
Correction: According to google, it was actually the right breast that the Amazons cut off or bound from a young age, the left one was often kept intact for future babies to feed from.
Pay a little more attention, ALL the amazons are drawn like that XD, it’s super cool
Were they all left handed? Wouldn't it make more sense to cut the right teat?
@@puneetmishra4726 I googled it, and yes you're correct, so I also added a correction in my main comment
@@geralttherivian3769 I googled how Amazonians used to make babies and I found some real wild shit lol. They were like human version of queen honeybees 😂😂
Suprised you left out the comedy version of Theseus and Pirithous story where Theseus lost his butt after being ripped out of the rock/chair too hard by Heracles XD
I love how Theseus, being a son of Posiedon, is depicted wielding Riptide in the video
I'd really love to hear you explain the Argonautica soon. Medea is my favourite character in all of greek mythology and I'm excited to hear you explaining Jason's totally not terrible idea of sidelining his mentally unstable and extremely powerful sorceress wife in favour of some random princess
Dude, your new designs for the gods are awesome, can't wait to see how the rest will look like
Honey wake up, a new JAKE DOUBLEYOO VIDEO IS COMING OUT SOON
I love how your style has changed over the years. It make it unique compared to other channels
“What part of aro ace do you not understand???”
“Oh… I thought that was because you were really into archery…”
That part sent me XP
I love those subtle animation details with the new designs. Like Persephone looking up at Hades
The art and overall drawings are so much higher quality, amazing work. I really enjoyed this one.
This video was sponsored by Zagreus
You know for a fact Zagreus would insult Theseus for his kidnapping of Hellen. On top of being disgusted.
i disagree, on the grounds that zagreus wouldn't waste even a single gemstone on giving that man attention
The running theme of Greek mythology is "Do something cool, but don't let it go to your head."
Your character designs are really amazing in this video! Especially the one for Persephone
“Honey IT OUR WEDDING!”
Jake Doubleyoo posted 😂
Whoa. Just WHOA! Your artstyle improved amazingly! I love the gods' redesigns!
You forgot to take away the placeholder text Jake. 5:27
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@@JakeDoubleyoodying inside loll
@@JakeDoubleyoo
LOOK AT HIM
POINT AT HIM AND LAUGH
@@100juice9Ha
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@@100juice9 HAHAHA
i quite like the new greek god designs, would love character sheets for em. also comparison with old and new would be fun
4:34 AROACE MENTION LETS GOOOOO
The Caeneus bit came so out of left field, it was hilarious
the Subtle look between Hades and Persephone is some of the best animation I've seen from this channel, it's so Perfect
Can we just appreciate how fast he's getting these videos out!
Say Theseus, I heard you like ‘em young
No, you see... He was going to wait for her to be of age. So he is just a groomer
@@luckluca8982This is true
@@luckluca8982 still a pdfile
I like Percy Jackson’s POV on Theseus is that he just has real bad ADHD.
5:46 "friends" suuuuure.
And they were roommates 😂
I'm actually familiar with a different version of the story of Thesues and Antiope. That Antiope was actually her sister Hypollyta, and her death came when the Amazons came to rescue her and she was killed by her sister
7:31 I'm actually kinda happy that you managed to make a video about Theseus and Pirithous; I've been waiting patiently ever since you made a video about the cool stuff Heracles did. 😊 (Does this also mean we'll be getting a video about Jason?? 🤨)
Really love the work you do. You show the love you have for these stories in your videos.
i love how your art is evolving! great job jake! great videos and love the humor
I love how your god designs and general designs of the characters have all become way more historically accurate. Its kinda funny because watching all the videos in order you can kinda see a timeline for how much you're learning the myths based on the designs.
I know I'm late, but I wanna say I love the character redesigns and upgrades they've gotten as Jake has developed more in his skills and abilities. Its so cool to see the gods from one or two different accessories and colors to a full array of colors and culture-accurate clothing and jewelries. It makes me so happy ❤
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Zagreus when he learns to play the lyre: psst, I see dead people.
The art and designs keep getting more detailed with every video and it’s so pleasing to see omg… like the new Artemis design is so nice + Persephone too
LOVE the character designs in this one, Jake! And I love how you always put quotes in your videos. I always pause to read them for the extra context.
Jake Doubleyoo, you disgust me. You have failed not only your fans who trusted you, but also yourself. I will never be able to forgive you for this. You forgot to put the relevant quote at 5:21
This design are fire❤❤
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I just noticed that jake is been doing this design for 6 months, these are amazing dude ❤❤
Finally, more Greek mythology. That’s why I subscribed
The sheer quality of this whole Chanel just skyrocketed! Love the New outfits ❤
just watching this and seeing the new art style and characters move their heads is so so cool to see, I love Persephone and Hades' new designs so much.
6:08 trans people are cool
W trans beans
@@Grayson-tk5hn w person
@@Baked_bean571 danke
You mean the unidentified ....
@@The_Hope_Lost ?
loving the new art of artemis and persephone-
I love how every single character just became cooler now with more details that fit to their character, keep up the good work!
NEW DESIGNS LETS GOOOOO
THANK YOU JAKE - we all sat in unison
(I may or may not be re watching this solely for the new designs, and to appreciate the art each time)
Honestly I like that Hades is just chilling in the underworld with his wife. Like bro just happily vibing life is good.
Love your new Dionysus design
I love how your character designs have been getting more detailed over time.
At least Theseus didn't need a crew to accomplish all of his great feats. Looking at you Jason
Pirathos: wait you’re back already?
Theseus: yeah turns out my child bride and her stupid loving family made my dumb cousin king of Athens instead
Pirathos: well at least I’m not alone anymore
Persephone: f*ck that, Theseus is going to the fields of ash to chill for all eternity and you’re gonna stay on that chair
Pirathos: dammit!
Would love to see the new designs for the Greek gods all laid out side by side!
About sail - it was said somewhere that white sail was torn apart in the storm, so he was forced to use what he had.
3:30 man another version I know very diffrent . In that Amazons also attack antiope because staying with theseus willingly, and Antiope sacrifice herself to save theseus
Yay, Jake noticed the timeline contradiction too! It used drive me nuts when I was a kid just getting into Greek mythology. The only way I could rationalize around it was that Medea was married to Aegeus _before_ the Argonauts, she then returned to her father, did the whole Jason thing, and then left straight back to her father after her little tiff with Jason. Which of course stretches the myths a bit. I eventually learned, as Jake says, to just ignore the timeline issues.
It's a narrative from various writers(or unknown sources) over many centuries. Trying to make a coherent timeline is lost cause
Theseus was not original part of the agronauts
IM IN LOVE WITH ALL THE NEW DESIGNS, THEYRE ALL SO AMAZING!!
6:10 content alert: the next minute or so about Caenis is NOT Greek mythology, this comes from Ovids Metamorphoses, a roman poet who allegedly wrote this in much much later after the story of Theseus was established. Also, its validity has been hotly debated since there are no surviving manuscripts from the time it was supposedly written. This was a much later, possibly contemporary addition to the story of Theseus.
Ah, got it
The death of Caeneus is depicted in Greek artwork going back to the Archaic Period, including one where his name is labeled: commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kleitias_-_ABV_77_1_-_compendium_of_Greek_mythology_-_Firenze_MAN_4209_-_56.jpg
The earliest literary reference I'm aware of is Apollonius' Argonautica:
"From rich Gyrton came Coronus, son of Caeneus, brave, but not braver than his father. For bards relate that Caeneus though still living perished at the hands of the Centaurs, when apart from other chiefs he routed them; and they, rallying against him, could neither bend nor slay him; but unconquered and unflinching he passed beneath the earth, overwhelmed by the downrush of massy pines."
Apollonius doesn't mention the source of Caeneus' invulnerability or him originally being a woman, so that backstory _may_ have been a later invention of Ovid. But didn't use Ovid as a source for this video. I primarily used Pseudo-Apollodorus (and Plutarch, though he doesn't mention Caeneus).
@@JakeDoubleyoo right, I don't dispute that he/she was an original character in Greek mythology, but it does seem the whole swapping of the junky parts very well could have been a much later addition by Ovid. I just wanted folks to be aware of that part. But I mean it's possible, the Greeks were known to be very progressive with gender in their mythology.
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic its not like they were progressive with gender its just that for example in the oldest know version of the story of caenus from Acusilaus it is more like a situation of "being a woman is so terrible because pregnancy (or rape in other version) that being a man is so much better" the fact that when men are tranform into woman the text portray it as something shameful
@@chl8760 i dunno man, a mythology with a god/dess the likes of Hermaphroditus, id say they were fairly progressive with gender.
I love the Minoan redesigns of everyone involved! It seems only Heracles stayed the same, but eh, he's an icon.
Rip Squidward Hades and old design Persephone. You will be missed.
Does anybody really believe that Theseus "forgot" to chance the sails?
5:22 I love the new placeholder text, Jake. Gives us a bit of an Easter egg (that we can make fun of you for).
When you're famous for having to rebuild your ship so many times that it becomes a completely different ship, what else would be expected
Theseus
Fatal flaw - impulsiveness/recklessness.
I love how every video feels like a visual upgrade. Please don’t ever change you’re amazing 2D style
All of the updated looks are amazing they’re so beautiful
The updated designs are absolutely amazing ❤😊
Man you did a Incredible on Dionysus, Aphrodite, Artemis, Hades, Persephone they looked Epic!
Y'know, in Italian there's a saying derived from the story of Ariadne and Theseus that goes "piantare in Nasso", translated "planting in Naxos" which essentially means leaving someone behind.
Another fun fact is that most people say it wrong and think it's said "piantare in asso", because the two sound similar.
I love this channel so much, please keep making this until I’m old enough to patron cause I feel bad loving it so much and not even paying money
8:49 yeah, he fell-off hard
I learned at high school that the reason Theseus left the wrong coloured sail up was because he and his crew were distracted by all the drinking and sex with random island girls.
That was heracles
4:31 finally the jokes are back
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If you could splice the audio and post it on Apple Podcasts, that’d be dope af, great video as always 👊
Where's his ship tho? Is it the original
What ship?
@@videogollumer the ship of theseus
@@autismcenteral7306 What about it?
Jake may I just say I LOVE the new god designs. It really shows not only how far you've come but it really elegantly portrays them. 10/10
HELP THE WAY JAKE MADE THE SUICIDE PART TURN INTO A STICKMAN IS SO HILARIOUS
To be honest I only knew Theseus from the story of the Minotaur and didn’t know about all the crazy stuff that happened afterwards, thanks Jake. Also I love how Hercules and Theseus were arguing about the timeline before you stopped them.
This is great, I’ve seen red from overly sarcastic productions badmouth Theseus and now I can know what this is all about
I like how all the characters besides Heracles get redesigns
I would like to throw this out There that within ancient Greece their concept of heroism is completely different than ours. In fact, I would say somebody akin to The Punisher is more closer to what the Greeks imagined in a hero. Because back then, a hero wasn't necessarily a truly wholesome, good person- that didn't occur until Superman in the 1930s - a hero in Ancient Greece was just a person that did great things and Is remembered for all time, not necessarily a good person.
In fact, there are some scholarly circles now that are believing that the stories of all of Zeus's infidelities and shapeshifting are actually grossly exaggerated and that the mainstream Zeus that everyone else worshipped was probably far more nobler than what we would imagine.
his boat is also apperently paradoxical