Are Frigg and Freyja the SAME? - Norse Gods Explained

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  • @apenasmaisumdiogo.7115
    @apenasmaisumdiogo.7115 Год назад +716

    I love how you always emphasize that when it comes to Norse mythology, we have to accept the limitations of our knowledge and leave ourselves to speculation, as there isn't much written information from earlier myths and even the later ones are scarce and most likely influenced by other cultures at best. It makes us stop to think about how much knowledge we lost across the centuries because no one wrote it down in an informative way like Snorri and others did.

    • @snatch3324
      @snatch3324 Год назад

      @The Owl Lady What's bad about Jackson Crawford?

    • @snatch3324
      @snatch3324 Год назад +1

      @The Owl Lady Isn't he an expert on old norse language and runes? Also maybe the old norse meaning of Opin Bera is different and Isn't to make public basically the same as to reveal? His interpretation of Folkvangr is just as valid as any other right? Just as you said we know so little about norse mythology. Still even if he is wrong about those things, he still Isn't bad.

    • @mikeyplays9677
      @mikeyplays9677 3 месяца назад

      I blame Loki

  • @charlottecochran2337
    @charlottecochran2337 Год назад +1458

    Too bad this video is out on Saturn's day instead of Frigg's day.

    • @johnathonathon
      @johnathonathon Год назад +34

      underrated comment lol

    • @MemTMCR
      @MemTMCR Год назад +55

      or Freya's dag in norwegian

    • @leoleonielsen8076
      @leoleonielsen8076 Год назад +20

      Now that you say i found out in School that all of the days are named after the norse gods except for monday and sunday who are named after the Sun and the Moon

    • @SovietPupper
      @SovietPupper Год назад +2

      @@leoleonielsen8076 we need more diversity. No?

    • @DaoFAQ
      @DaoFAQ Год назад +24

      @@leoleonielsen8076 Saturday is named for a Roman figure also. Saturn is the Roman equivalent to Cronus.

  • @herobrinesblog
    @herobrinesblog Год назад +435

    2:32 are we all meant to just ignore that an important part of norse lore is not just that Freyja was accused of sleeping with other gods but also that she farted when caught?

    • @noroelsadek5462
      @noroelsadek5462 Год назад +21

      yes

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku Год назад +32

      gigachad move

    • @connorleonard4047
      @connorleonard4047 Год назад +2

      It isnt really importabt

    • @DTavona
      @DTavona Год назад +5

      Sleeping around wasn't considered bad as long as one was discreet, as both the gods and the goddesses did it. It's worth pointing out that Freya doesn't deny the accusation, but it's worth noting that the only child Freya bore were sired by Odin (Hnoss). Despite Snorri's insistence, Freya is often remarked as weeping over her absent husband, and frequently goes searching for him. The only god among the Norse known to wander around was Odin; yes, it's circumstantial, but some scholars linquistically link Odin to Ođr. As a powerful magician and one of her spheres being fertility, Freya knew when she was fertile, and she likely helped the other women; however, it's also possible that if alternately not relying on the wisdom of Frigga, that it might be common knowledge among the women knowing which herbs to take to discourage fertility. While Loki accuses Freya, the other gods weren't impressed. Thor, for example was married to Sif and by her had a daughter, Thrud. However, he also had Magni by the giantess, Jarnsaxa, who was not his wife; the parentage of Thor's other son, Modi, is not known, but it's worth noting that the boys were raised together, and Thor's patrimony was acknowledged.

    • @BorealisFantasy
      @BorealisFantasy 6 месяцев назад +1

      genderswap norse Zeus?

  • @eatinganemone89
    @eatinganemone89 Год назад +186

    Atreus: “Hey, Mimir, why’s Freya so popular with the dwarves?”
    Mimir: “uhhhhhh…”

  • @ultroy-motorslimitedlnc
    @ultroy-motorslimitedlnc Год назад +132

    I had a nostalgic moment when you talked about how Freya got her necklace as it was the first Norse Mythology related thing a read as a kid

  • @spoopyd.8910
    @spoopyd.8910 Год назад +161

    Yes. They're both Odin in disguise

  • @vojislavS8652
    @vojislavS8652 Год назад +97

    I think similar thing happened with Aphrodite/Venus because she had different origin story and was formally worshiped by the Phoenicians as Ashtarte. OSP red explained it better.

    • @airplanes_aren.t_real
      @airplanes_aren.t_real Год назад +11

      Osp red also explained the seal fight better

    • @gunjfur8633
      @gunjfur8633 Год назад +14

      Aphrodite/Venus isnt the same as Frigg/Freyja.
      Frigg/Freyja are both Norse.
      Aphrodite/Venus are from different cultures, with different origins. (Greek/Latin)

    • @ggwp638BC
      @ggwp638BC Год назад +7

      @@gunjfur8633 You're correct, but also not exactly.
      Like said in the video, Norse Mythology isn't from a single culture. It's actually an umbrella term to refer to the overarching shared ties of some scandinavian, germanic, celtic and even slavic pagan traditions, pieced together from several centuries. Adding to the confusion, these people did not develop a culture of writing often, which means that a lot of the earlier written accounts and main sources are christian.
      So they are both Norse in the sense that there was a shared cultured in that region, but Norse itself is a broad concept. If it weren't for the far more extensive writings of the ancient Greeks and Romans, we could have very well interpreted them in the same light, with a broader Mediterranean Mythology term, trying to piece together who is who, who belongs where, and so on.

    • @connorleonard4047
      @connorleonard4047 Год назад +2

      @@ggwp638BC not even close. Norse is a subset of Germanic culture. Only norse has Freya every other germanic cultute has Frige

  • @matthewprice1625
    @matthewprice1625 Год назад +197

    I really love your Norse Mythology videos, and I would love to see one on the Aesir-Vanir war

    • @Carewolf
      @Carewolf Год назад +4

      Well, we know nothing about it.

  • @FO18L
    @FO18L Год назад +22

    1:21 i love how odin gets angry eyebrows on top of his normal eyebrows 😆

  • @rccartrial5118
    @rccartrial5118 Год назад +201

    You should do Slavik mythology (in case you haven't heard of it it's basically believing in fairies, magical creatures and in some gods like Mokosh(goddess) and Perun[Peh-roon] (The main god)
    A more detailed explanation of Perun:
    In Slavic mythology, Perun (Cyrillic: Перýн) is the highest god of the pantheon and the god of sky, thunder, lightning, storms, rain, law, war, fertility and oak trees. His other attributes were fire, mountains, wind, iris, eagle, firmament (in Indo-European languages, this was joined with the notion of the sky of stone) and in a variation of today's Croatian language his name means fork.

    • @Pollicina_db
      @Pollicina_db Год назад +10

      I’m Croatian and no perun isn’t used as the word “fork” in our official language, we call a fork “vilica”. “Perin” similar to perun is used only in the north and east side of Adriatic coast in dialect.
      Also, an extra fun fact. We believe that when Perun strikes a bolt to the ground an iris grows. In croatian, iris are called “perunika” :)

    • @rccartrial5118
      @rccartrial5118 Год назад

      @@Pollicina_db Na otoku mi kazemo perun

    • @the_linden
      @the_linden Год назад +5

      Perun's place as the highest god is questionable. He's thought of as the highest one because we simply managed to reconstruct the highest number of mythos around him and he seems to appear in most Slavic regions, so the researchers think he must have been important or popular because of this. But in general, we know very little details about Slavic mythology except that it was very fragmented and localised, simillar to the Greek one. East, west and south had different gods, names for them or even priorities as to which is more important. E.g. from early sources we've got mentions of a god named "Rod" and he seems to have been associated with fate and family. From the context it seems he also was very important. In later sources he's basicaly nonexistent and we have no idea what happened. We also know only a handful of names from the entire pantheon that were simply mentioned once and never again. In other words: we know very, very little about actual Slavic mythology and due to lack of sources most of the knowledge is forever lost.

    • @rccartrial5118
      @rccartrial5118 Год назад +1

      @@the_linden interesting

    • @jimsus69
      @jimsus69 Год назад +2

      Isn't that where the lady Baba Jaga or Baba Yaga, comes from? 😆

  • @yami_the_witch
    @yami_the_witch Год назад +289

    Can we do Japanese Mythology? I wanna hear the tales of Kaguya and such. Plus I'm sure your designs would be wild

    • @BioluminescentTree
      @BioluminescentTree Год назад +19

      As a half Japanese guy I totally support your suggestion!
      Just note that Kaguya is not what is commonly referred to as "mythology", but just a stand-alone, albeit grand and otherworldly (not to mention achingly beautiful) fairytale.

    • @yami_the_witch
      @yami_the_witch Год назад +13

      That's usually what Mythology refers to, myths, fairytales and folklore that were believed at the time. The only difference is that unlike Greek or Norse mythology, these are still very much part of the culture and still a part of Shintoism. The Japanese never had a grand religious revamp, so a lot of the old Shintoism is still around.
      Heck, I'd refer to Catholicism as mythology, or well the bible. It's the very same wild whacky stories with a variety of characters doing wild things as any of the others. The sole difference is that people still believe in Catholocism, so it's regarded as a religion.
      Sorry if that take offends you. I didn't wanna come off as rude. Just what I feel like about these things.

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku Год назад +2

      raijin seems pretty tight.

    • @nidohime6233
      @nidohime6233 Год назад +2

      Kaguya is more a fairytale character rather than a mythical figure.

    • @hevanlyDemon
      @hevanlyDemon 2 дня назад

      Shinto god's
      I know because I read moonlit fantasy web novel more than 2 times

  • @makinasewingcenter7918
    @makinasewingcenter7918 Год назад +28

    It’s great that Jake can actually make learning fun

  • @AlexanderMarchesaine
    @AlexanderMarchesaine Год назад +23

    It’s like in Greek mythology. Sometimes, epithets become their own divinity out of confusion or just time. Ichnaea, Goddess of tracking, was once simply an epithet of Themis, but became separate. The same happened with Zegreus and Dionysus.

  • @jw-vs7wh
    @jw-vs7wh Год назад +35

    though we will probably never know 100% if theyre the same or not, my theory is they both derived from the same/similar indo-european goddess and as time went on different tribes began to seperate this goddess into 2 goddesses. i view them now as separate deities

    • @legoking6165
      @legoking6165 Год назад +1

      That sounds like the most sensible possibility.

    • @Miners666
      @Miners666 Год назад

      My personal theory is Nerthus.

    • @damenwhelan3236
      @damenwhelan3236 8 месяцев назад

      Same concept with me but opposite conclusion.
      I see them as the same deity. One while married to odin (odr ul fittr... i mean the man is called all father...) and one who isn't married him any more.

  • @Eric6761
    @Eric6761 Год назад +4

    7:17 I love how the image to depict the writer of the Edas seems to be soo desinterested and done with everything happening

  • @yourix2
    @yourix2 Год назад +6

    This just shows how fluid believes and religions where back then and now to some extend. The more i study mythology the more i realise how little we actually know.

  • @fatgecko1616
    @fatgecko1616 Год назад +15

    Jake: Frigg and Freya.
    My brain: friggin' Freya!

  • @cheeselord3655
    @cheeselord3655 Год назад +79

    The latter half of the myth with the two brothers is suspiciously like another myth I've heard with Zeus and Hera. Interesting

    • @Monkebs45
      @Monkebs45 Год назад

      I actually haven’t heard that one, what is it?

    • @something1600
      @something1600 Год назад +1

      They descended from a common (though distant) culture.

  • @--Paws--
    @--Paws-- Год назад +82

    As someone pointed out in a sort of unrelated video about languages, Freyja almost sounds similar to the Hindi name Priya (प्रिया). However Frigg seems to be more related since Frigg is a goddess of love and Priya means "beloved".

    • @cramerfloro5936
      @cramerfloro5936 Год назад +15

      Freyja is also a goddess of love, though in her case more in relation to sexuality, while Frigg oversees family relations and marriage.

    • @gunjfur8633
      @gunjfur8633 Год назад +6

      The "gg" in Frigg was originaly a "y" like sound. Frigg = Priya

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Год назад +3

      Freyja is the goddess of love beauty and sex whereas Frigg is the goddess of marriage. They’re essentially the Aphrodite and Hera of their pantheon

  • @jacobwaterman4526
    @jacobwaterman4526 Год назад +5

    YES! The second video I've seen that shows the Heimdall/Loki seal slapfight!

  • @stephanie_jjb
    @stephanie_jjb Год назад +35

    It's always been my theory that the very male-dominated cast of the eddas was due to snorri because Norris and Viking religion old women fairly high shamans for example were exclusively or almost exclusively women in their culture

    • @panzrok8701
      @panzrok8701 Месяц назад +1

      Women were even seen as divine, even more so in older Germanic beliefs. Tacitus wrote about it.

  • @authorlacey
    @authorlacey Год назад +31

    So my girlfriend practices paganism Freyja being her main goddess she makes offerings to and does the work of. She also makes offerings to Frigg. She explained to me that Frigg is like a different version of Freyja, like a piece of Freyja's personality given life. Some interpretations make it confusing with describing Frigg as like the shadow to Freyja. She explained Odin and Od were the same way.
    Of course this is just her personal practice and I just thought it was an interesting take on the goddesses.

    • @dj3y3
      @dj3y3 Год назад +5

      I have a similar belief. I personally believe that they are separate individuals, but also two equal halves. Two sides of the same coin. To me, Freyja (also my primary goddess funny enough) represents the half that is blunt, fierce, passionate. She is the assertive half that prefers to act when the situation calls for it. Frigg, at least as far as my current belief goes, is the passive half, preferring to remain calm and mirroring Odin’s wisdom with her own. If I were to really put it into simple terms, Frigg is the calm, Freyja is the storm.
      It’s also a helpful separation when Freyja’s domain of love is that of fertility and sexuality, while Frigg’s is more representative of the home and the family. They both embody separate realms of love.
      That being said, I still have a lot of reading to do lol

    • @Miners666
      @Miners666 Год назад +2

      I never understand why in general we have the gods so rigid, like, X is the god of Y. It seems to me that should gods exist that they’d be far more fluid and take on different aspects and forms - more like in Hinduism. And also that their forms would mutate on the beliefs of those who worship them - more like in American Gods.
      Gods and magic beings in stories shapeshift all the time, but as soon as they shift to a another humanoid form (that often doesn’t even have a name, their name is just the literal word for the thing they represent) we go “huh, must be a whole different god.”
      So for me there is “The Goddess” or “The Lady” as Freyja but can take the form of Frigg or Gullveig, or can act as the Triple Goddess with Jord and Hnoss.
      Also, we all have different aspects to our own personalities - we act differently with friends than with our parents, we act differently at work than we do with our partners, and how you view you’re parents is going to be completely different to how their parents view them. But if you’re a divine being those different groups slap a different name on you and 1000 years later you’re suddenly different people.

  • @DTavona
    @DTavona Год назад +3

    The idea that they were originally the same goddess and diverged until they were distinct when the groups reconnected later, it's also possible that they adapted some of the same spheres and animals because these were associated with goddesses. My current opinion is they were two different goddesses.
    Frigga was Aesir, and those gods stressed physical prowess. The Vanir stressed the arts, crafts, and magical ability. Soon after the two tribes of gods met, they went to war and the conflict lasted a long time with no clear winner. Tired of the constant warfare, both sides became agreeable to peace if a solution could be found. Frigga was Odin's first wife, and a time-honored practice to end fighting to for the leader to take a peace pride, and thus Freya became Odin's second wife (a practice known as a peace bride; having a woman from one tribe marry a leader from the rival tribe is what happened with Brigit to end the fighting between the Fomorians and the Tuatha in Irish myth; this shows the idea of a peace bride was widely known through the various tribes that were linguistically different). While Frigga stayed home to guard the homestead, Freya accompanied Odin into battle, and after the valkyries harvested the dead, Freya got half of the dead, and she got first pick - both as her right as Odin's wife and to show the Vanir were on par with the Aesir under Odin's leadership. Crawford says we don't know if Freya's dead warriors were housed elsewhere because only Valhalla is the only residence for the Einherjar, and that's fair. The warriors wouldn't necessarily have to bivouac in separate locations; when it came to fight, one group would follow Odin's banner, and the other group would march with Freya.
    Snorri loved the Norse gods, and he made many comparisons to encourage conversion to Christianity. However, as a Christian, he could not stomach the idea of Odin having two wives, so he deliberately listed Freya's husband with a name known to be Óðr, vehemently insisting they were two distinct gods. Some scholars consider the name of Freya's husband to be a cognate of Odin. One trait often mentioned was that Freya's husband was often away on travels, and missing him, she followed after him, and as you point out, the fact Odin is well known to travel about, looking for adventure, beer, and women to seduce, and we hear nothing of Freya's husband. If Freya's husband was Odin, this would make perfect sense.
    Odin having two wives is not farfetched at all. Polygamy among pagan chiefs, kings, and ruler gods was a thing because it showed the masses they were politically and/or physically powerful men to be reckoned with. Pagan women were usually only condemned with multiple wives if the husband was unable to take care of his women and children; what mattered was that if they agreed to marry that they and their children would be taken care of. Love, while an obsession in the West (and a lot of fun!), was an invention of the Victorian Age. While a husband and wife might develop affection or even love after years together, in many cultures marriages were arranged by the parents with an eye to future in-laws; in-laws might be called upon to provide opportunities for the children and/or provide resources and help during disasters. Love, if it was considered at all, was deemed an expensive luxury. That's why most researchers consider marriage both to be both a social and an economic contract (and why states get involved in its regulation). To some women, a man who had more than one woman and children by them was attractive, because he might have enough resources to provide for one more.

  • @srbobo9349
    @srbobo9349 Год назад +6

    i unironically needed this

  • @Seamlesscontinuum
    @Seamlesscontinuum Год назад +2

    Thank you for making this video. I have been yearning to learn more about Norse mythology but a lot of RUclips material/ books can be somewhat of a snore Fest. No disrespect on them but I personally appreciate the use of cartoons in learning for whatever reason.

  • @EveryArchive
    @EveryArchive Год назад +18

    This is very interesting. In god of war, they are the same. And now I can see why they combined them there. Interesting time. (Plus we get more Norse mythology.) good times. Good video.

  • @alctraz_s299
    @alctraz_s299 Год назад +2

    Really liked how detailed the video is, nice work. Could you do a video on Thor's and Loki's adventure to meet Utgard-Loki?

  • @RazzBerryPiez
    @RazzBerryPiez Год назад +3

    😊A mug with the sentient sewing needle saying “did someone say sentient sewing needle?” Next to Loki’s mouth being sewn shut would be funny, but like no pressure or anything also I really like your content.😊

  • @ZGKIV
    @ZGKIV Год назад +8

    What if Valhalla is the land and Folkvang is the hall? Odin's half wander the lands, searching for battles and protecting from evils. Freyja's half stay in the hall, helping protect it from within, making weapons, and cooking vasts amount of food.

    • @ZGKIV
      @ZGKIV Год назад +1

      @@fan_of_thing ok, so the warriors dine and party waiting for Ragnarok, and the others tend to the fields, and gather ingredients for the food and wine. Thank you!

    • @Jester_Jingles
      @Jester_Jingles Год назад

      @@ZGKIVno. Fólkvangr is also explicitly people who died in combat. They were just chosen by Freyja then Odin.

    • @ZGKIV
      @ZGKIV Год назад

      @@Jester_Jingles I'm just saying, misinterpretations happen all the time

    • @Jester_Jingles
      @Jester_Jingles Год назад +1

      @@ZGKIV yes. Your second comment was very much a misinterpretation. Both get warriors.

    • @ZGKIV
      @ZGKIV Год назад

      @@Jester_Jingles well isn't that just the most polite way I've ever heard someone try to call me a moron. Wow. Cool. How about this? We don't know a lot of Norse mythology and have had to fill in a lot of gaps ourselves. We don't have a lot to go off of and there aren't a lot of things documenting Norse mythology. We may have misinterpreted the books and got it wrong, too. Maybe one takes warriors, and the other doesn't. Who tf knows? We sure can't be fucking sure cuz we didn't live back then, and we don't have a lot of info on their religious beliefs. Humans aren't perfect. Don't try to patronize me, asshole.

  • @aneeshskariah6019
    @aneeshskariah6019 Год назад +1

    this was actually quite insightful. thankyou

  • @leeholcombe9533
    @leeholcombe9533 Год назад

    yes, this is a huge debate within the faith and sources only go so far, I'm not going to ramble about the religious aspects but in my learnings and interactions I've had they are two different beings. I love the video thanks for the thought-provoking subject.

  • @xxrandomgamerxx810
    @xxrandomgamerxx810 Год назад +4

    I love your videos also I was wondering if there were any super weird artifacts kinda related to Greek mythology

  • @Graehaus
    @Graehaus Год назад +2

    Fun video. I would consider them different as Frigg is of Aesir and Freyja and Frey were Vanir.

  • @D3NL1LL3P
    @D3NL1LL3P Год назад +1

    In my early schooling we were taught about the many great halls the gods had and it was explained as if the halls were geography close and the fighting done each day was between frejas and odins warriors to prepare for ragnarok.
    (I'm from Denmark btw)

  • @TheAussieBlue
    @TheAussieBlue Год назад +5

    I just love the people angrying in the foreground when you talk about Valhalla.

  • @BlackWingedSeraphX
    @BlackWingedSeraphX Год назад +2

    Both having the Falcon cape sold me.

    • @Jellycat123-v5n
      @Jellycat123-v5n 2 месяца назад

      Right??? I've never heard of two gods so alike too one another them this!

  • @MrMighty147
    @MrMighty147 Год назад

    Favourite mythology channel on this platform.

  • @berhonkusbardledoo
    @berhonkusbardledoo Год назад +2

    5:11 it sounds like he is saying “frickin Freyja”

  • @NoName-cn4tk
    @NoName-cn4tk Год назад +3

    You had no right (yes you do) to make Frigg and Frejya so cute!

  • @jamblastwizard
    @jamblastwizard Год назад +1

    2:33 loki accuses freyja of committing incest and then farting?? these are very specific tricks from the trickster god

  • @jankarieben1071
    @jankarieben1071 Год назад +2

    Long story short, yes, another name for Frigg was Friia, which is practically Freya, and considering the Slavic god Perun is literally Thor, it shouldn’t be a surprise that all pegan Northern European gods, regardless of name, symbolize the same things.

  • @samsarex4318
    @samsarex4318 Год назад +68

    Random person: Who are you?
    Frigg or Freyja: I'm Odin's wife
    Random person: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down

    • @something1600
      @something1600 Год назад +2

      Like being Zeus's (or Posidan's) son.

    • @RandomPerson28337
      @RandomPerson28337 Год назад +6

      I never said that but ok.

    • @Amy_the_Lizard
      @Amy_the_Lizard Год назад +1

      I mean, it still narrows it down a lot more than if someone introduced themself as 'Zeus's lover' - though no one with sense would do that since that's basically asking for Hera to smite you...

  • @laurakastrup
    @laurakastrup Год назад +1

    It’s commonly accepted among Scandinavians that yes, Frigg and Freya are at the very least connected, however it’s not the same goddess, Frigg is full blooded Aesir, born and raised, whereas Freya has the backstory of being a Vanir (a different breed of god, connected to nature and magic, whereas the Aesirs are connected to war and conquest), it is also stated that Frey, Freya’s brother, does not recognise Frigg upon first meeting her, so yeah would be hard to explain why YOUR TWIN BROTHER does not recognise you.
    However, it’s commonly stated that Frigg and Freya shares the same husband (Od, Freya’s husband, is most likely a synonym for Odin, Frigg’s husband) who, as the god of knowledge, but also one of the most hubris gods in Norse mythology, desired Freya’s wisdom within Vanir magic, which lead to seducing, sex, secrets and dipping. Is Baldur, Freya’s son? No, absolutely not. He’s actually one of her suitors, which would make it REALLY uncomfortable for him to also be her son, even by Nordic standards.

  • @titangirl161
    @titangirl161 Год назад

    YES JAKE HAS ANSWERED MY PRAYERS AND TALKED ABOUT LOKI AND HEIMDALL SEALS FIGHTING OVER A NECKLACE!!!

  • @dominicsamson762
    @dominicsamson762 Год назад +4

    I'm looking forward to when Jake does Ragnarok

  • @dunkleosteusterrelli
    @dunkleosteusterrelli Год назад +1

    now I'm interested about Frigga in Old English mythological beliefs which I believe shares etymological roots

  • @JoniWeston729
    @JoniWeston729 4 месяца назад +1

    In the germanic tribes Freyja and Frigg were actually one and the same goddess, known as Frijja wife of Wodanaz, but in the later norse cults, they separated Frijja into Freyja and Frigg

  • @JBTriple8
    @JBTriple8 Год назад +11

    yeah thats my question that said i think its God Of War 2018 & Raganrok and The MCU Merged them into the same person

    • @fredlloyd-ward6141
      @fredlloyd-ward6141 Год назад +4

      It doesn't help that their names both begin with Fr

    • @zainabfatima1051
      @zainabfatima1051 Год назад +1

      They are different
      Though In the Aesir-Vanir myth Freya has the abilities of Frigg
      But,Freya operates Folkvanger, which is the vanir counterpart of Valhalla,so I don't think they are actually the same

    • @cramerfloro5936
      @cramerfloro5936 Год назад +5

      @@fredlloyd-ward6141 or that these two goddesses share a lot of iconographic elements, like the feather cloak that let's you fly, a marriage to a mysterious traveller-god (Odin/Odr), and patronage over clairvoyance and aspects of womanhood (fertility and beauty for Freyja and housework like weaving for Frigg). It's been speculated for decades that these two deities might have had a shared origin.

  • @destrover5
    @destrover5 Год назад

    Commenting to let you know that TikTok brought me to you. And holy shit am I thankful. Great fun content!!!!

  • @something1600
    @something1600 Год назад +9

    I wonder how much the Magnus Chase series would have changed if we had as good as a understanding of Norse mythology as we do with Greek.

  • @Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj
    @Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj Год назад +5

    Can you cover Aztec mythology?

  • @mercygoddd
    @mercygoddd Год назад +5

    I love how Loki isnt a bad guy like in the mcu, he is just concerned bout how Freya sleeps with every god

    • @gmpssahnwal834
      @gmpssahnwal834 Год назад +3

      Loki in norse mythology is sometimes a bad guy and sometimes a good guy.

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku Год назад

      @@gmpssahnwal834 dude took a L for the team and did a horse just so freyja didn't get married off, even after slutshaming her. They're not bad, just mischieveous.

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku Год назад

      Including her bro.

    • @gmpssahnwal834
      @gmpssahnwal834 Год назад +1

      @@ProjektTaku He killed Baldr and Heimdallr and started Ragnarök. Loki was just mischievous but after Christianity started spreading the Christians started associating Loki with the devil because of this he started becoming more and more evil in the myths. It's kinda sad that Loki was actually a good guy but became so evil.

    • @ProjektTaku
      @ProjektTaku Год назад +1

      @@gmpssahnwal834 yeah, its pretty interesting how he devolved into a bad guy in the real myth and in the movies.

  • @lidular
    @lidular Год назад +8

    I also like the theory that Loki and Odin may have been the same god at some point

  • @anisabboud3770
    @anisabboud3770 10 месяцев назад +1

    Gná..
    Reminds me of a boss fight in a game that took me 4 hours

  • @LuxBellator92
    @LuxBellator92 Год назад +1

    I would love it if you covered Australian Indigenous mythology

  • @perrytheplate
    @perrytheplate Год назад +1

    I actually thought they were the same person at first. Since I can’t be bothered to remember names in books, I just pick out the part that’s most uncommon about the name to remember. Too bad not a lot of feminine names start with “Fr” Let’s say I had one hectic reading session, flipping my Norse mythology book back and forth.

  • @ajgibson1307
    @ajgibson1307 Год назад +3

    Love you videos god bless

  • @hiianimate1525
    @hiianimate1525 Год назад +1

    2:16 jake I don’t think that’s a mythologically accurate I don’t think that Yngvi was packing that much in the original myth you’ve broken my trust

  • @YoshiaLubbe
    @YoshiaLubbe 6 месяцев назад

    Interesting hint that I just thought off: many Jotnar wanted Freyja's hand. Now, if she was Odin's wife, Odin would obviously have something to say about it, and as I have it, the Jotnar were slightly stupid, but not that stupid. Which give me the idea that Frigg was Odin's wife broadly speaking, while Freyja was a different goddess, with some sources referring to Frigg as Freyja.

  • @tim31415
    @tim31415 6 месяцев назад

    Charles Keary in Outlines of Primitive Belief Among the Indo-European Races, deals with the question of how the Earth Mother became demoted and subjugated to the position of consort to the chief god. He argues that this this transition happened in all cultures as they evolved from agrarian to urban societies. In most societies this happened in prehistory. But the Norse were the most remote and non- urban of all the Indo-European people, so this transition was postponed for several millenia. By the time it had started, Christianity was displacing the traditional beliefs and the mythology was frozen in this confusing, half baked state.

  • @Shantari
    @Shantari 2 месяца назад

    "Odin shows up in his usual Gandalf cosplay"
    More like Gandalf cosplayed as Odin.

  • @jish55
    @jish55 Год назад

    Do I think Frigg and Freyja are the same? Yes, because a) both Frigg and Ord have damn near no information on them beyond some random story/s, and b) Frigg/Freyja and Odin/Odr are so similar in name it makes sense that they're the same, but some mess up in translation (or Christians fudging things up to screw with the myths) essentially make Frigg/Freyja the same and Odin/Odr the same (also doesn't help that Odin and Freyja have equal rights and are both responsible for the souls of fallen warriors while Frigg/Odr play nearly no role in Norse mythos.

  • @ryan1000011
    @ryan1000011 Год назад

    It's likely that given time without Christians they would have merged into one goddess but the fact that Frig was Asgardian and Frayja is a Vanir likely means they were part of 2 believe systems from 2 different people's who eventually wared and joined cultures, mirroring the myth of the Asir Vanir war
    Though it's likely before that point they shared common origins
    So who's to know

  • @jimsus69
    @jimsus69 Год назад

    Frigg and Freya were two different people and were very easily explained in assassins creed.
    I can do it in one sentence.
    Frigg was Odins wife in life, then he married Freya after he died.
    Simple.
    Frigg was considered God like cos of her intelligence and strength, however Freya was apparently an actual spirit god of the realm where Asgard was, which some consider, was actually part of Jotunheim, which is why alot of God of war doesn't make sense..
    Especially as even in the pros edda children's book, etc
    Young Odin visits Jotunheim often. And drinks with Angrbodas father Suttungr. Aka "Saturn."
    And.. Ode and Odin were nothing alike, cos Ode is a name. And Odin is a pronunciation.. the actual spelling of Odin is "Woden," meaning "Warden" as he is a Warden of Souls, aka "The gentle jailor," which some Asgardian called him.
    And it's definitely Woden, which is why we have Wednesday, aka Wodensday, and not Odins Day..
    Wednesday is a Christian version of Wodensday, cos they cut Woden out of it. And instead, said it was a day for people to marry, aka Weddings Day.. instead of Wodensday.
    And also.. in "God of War" they called Freya the witch of the wood.. in Midgard.
    But, completely wrong again.. cos Angrboda, who lived in the Iron Wood in Jotunheim, was known as the witch of the wood. Especially as it was so cold, it was mostly uninhabitable and safe for a Jotun who could survive the bitter cold. Which God of War claimed was normal temperature.. and hidden by some unexplainable "spell" 😒🙄
    And Angrboda was a Jotun, not a race of gaints that were called "Giants" that were different to Jotuns.
    God of War did a piss poor job of doing the mythology tbh.
    But it was entertaining none the less.
    And also, Angrboda "the witch of the wood" had a sister called Gunlodr who was "the witch of the mountain" which was where Suttungr lived at the bottom of, Gunnlodr, protected her father Suttungrs Magic Mead of Knowledge, which was generated from a so called "bottomless barrel" which may have been an exaggeration. And not necessarily literally an endless supply of Mead. Plus it was only a container.. so the Mead itself was probably made somewhere else.. and not generated by magic.
    Also the creation of the Mead was apparently a creation, made by Suttungr aka Saturn's wife Hyrrokin aka Juno.
    And Angrboda was also known as "Alethia." In Greek mythology.

  • @Supineshark
    @Supineshark Год назад +2

    You should do Japanese mythology next

  • @gamingwithgavin1283
    @gamingwithgavin1283 Год назад

    0:57 how am I not surprised at this point that Odin would do smth like this
    CAN WE GET ONE NICE MASTER GOD PERSON LIKE ZEUS OR ODIN THATS ACTUALLY A DECENT HUMAN BEING!!!!!!!!????????

  • @Fitchy-ke3wz
    @Fitchy-ke3wz 11 месяцев назад

    I love both interpretations

  • @Neohonanims
    @Neohonanims Год назад

    I have gained so many brain cells from your videos

  • @No_name7474
    @No_name7474 Год назад +2

    Can you do Khonsu? I gotta do a project about him

    • @cramerfloro5936
      @cramerfloro5936 Год назад +2

      There's a really informative video on him on the channel Religion for Breakfast

    • @No_name7474
      @No_name7474 Год назад +2

      Thank you just saved me an hour of research

  • @DOCTORmakenstuff
    @DOCTORmakenstuff Год назад +3

    Why is Od so cool looking hes emowizardrifc

  • @theboredbrickbuilder4130
    @theboredbrickbuilder4130 Год назад +1

    When's the next Egyptian mythology video

  • @rorylumley4727
    @rorylumley4727 Год назад

    I do wonder if something happened similar with odin and loki given they also have similarites like frigg and freya.

  • @thatcherrycat1198
    @thatcherrycat1198 Год назад

    I’ve named most of my leopard geckos after north mythology so this is super fun for me

  • @kr8771
    @kr8771 Год назад +1

    i love the raging warrior animation

  • @kieaplease
    @kieaplease Год назад +1

    This is so confusing. I thought Frejya was the wife of Thor? Did they divorce or something i know vikings are more advance idk. I wanna hear more on Bauldar and Anna I just love the stories.

    • @JakeDoubleyoo
      @JakeDoubleyoo  Год назад +3

      Thor's wife is Sif

    • @kieaplease
      @kieaplease Год назад +1

      @@JakeDoubleyoo Thank you for clearing that up, Jake. I'm also shell-shocked that you saw this.

  • @Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj
    @Ijhgvbbnjjhbnj Год назад +1

    Can you cover Aztec mythology

  • @tirididjdjwieidiw1138
    @tirididjdjwieidiw1138 Год назад

    Its also thought that freya and frigg or their equivalent, in mainland germanic mythology are the same person.

  • @CM-ss5pe
    @CM-ss5pe Год назад +1

    Referring to them as Frigg and Freyja sounds like you're saying "Friggin' Freyja" the whole time.

  • @sonicspider5415
    @sonicspider5415 Год назад +1

    Do you think you’ll explain the different pantheons of Norse myth

  • @SovietPupper
    @SovietPupper Год назад +3

    Everyone, comment the god you think each day of the week should be named after I'll edit it.
    Monday:
    Tuesday:
    Wednesday:
    Thursday:
    Friday:
    Saturday:
    Sunday:
    Has to make sense btw

    • @EarthsStrongestSaiyanWarrior
      @EarthsStrongestSaiyanWarrior Год назад

      I can only think of 3 but
      Thursday:thor (because thur,thor)
      Friday:Odin (Odin is basically the head god so friday is the final weekday so you get what i mean)
      Tuesday:Tyr (Tyr,T uesday)

    • @SovietPupper
      @SovietPupper Год назад

      @@EarthsStrongestSaiyanWarrior I like the idea of Odin being Friday. I'm gonna see how I can fit that in.

    • @willow2530
      @willow2530 Год назад +1

      this is actually how the days of the week were named lol
      monday = the moon
      tuesday = tiw, tyr (some of these will have the anglicisations of the names but ill put the proper ones beside it)
      wednesday = woden's day, odin
      thursday = thor
      friday = frigg's day
      saturday = ?????
      sunday = the sun

    • @SovietPupper
      @SovietPupper Год назад

      @@EarthsStrongestSaiyanWarrior how does Odyna sound?

    • @PeamThePanda
      @PeamThePanda Год назад

      Maybe call thursday after thor. Call it "thorsday", or maybe put some little spin on it and call it "thursday"?

  • @fenrir8978
    @fenrir8978 Год назад

    Hey jake how do you make these animations?

  • @Solqueen86
    @Solqueen86 Год назад

    Loki calling Freyja a hoe when he had more horse in him than NHentai search results

  • @hopefulhyena3400
    @hopefulhyena3400 Год назад +1

    What if the only reason Valhalla and Folkvang are separate is so that we have two teams for the practice battles?

  • @roaringthunder115
    @roaringthunder115 Год назад +13

    Loki really said Freyja farted

  • @elvininoa3367
    @elvininoa3367 Год назад +2

    How about gullveig?

  • @Myrdin90
    @Myrdin90 Год назад +1

    I wish I had a time machine and could go back to around y1000 and commision scholars around Scandinavia to write me copies of the books and stories they knew of, before that knowledge was lost 😭

    • @Eric6761
      @Eric6761 Год назад

      Too bad, you would have to know Ancient languages most likely lost through time

    • @Myrdin90
      @Myrdin90 Год назад +1

      @@Eric6761 Actually we're lucky enough to be able to reconstruct most of the language of the old norse, partially because of the surviving books, and in large part because of the Icelandic language not really changing for 1000 years

  • @copperdaylight
    @copperdaylight Год назад +1

    ...or just maybe, Odin had two wives, as seen of powerful men.

  • @ecurewitz
    @ecurewitz Год назад

    Can do done dtories about Kali being a total badass

  • @erikfinlin8110
    @erikfinlin8110 Год назад

    japanese mythology told by jakey would be awesome
    the various wild susano-o stories, like his rivalry with Amaterasu which led her to cause massive devastations to mankind
    the creation of japan using amenonuhoko wielded by izanagi and his sister/wife Izanami,
    izanagis venture into yomi,
    jimmu and his relationship with the gods and how the emperors work and how msot of the emperors till i believe the 16th emperor were mostly fake.
    others that are cool can be video similar to the greek monsters video is the countless yokai,
    momotaro and his adventures most prominent is his adventure with the dog, monkey, and pheasent and onigashima.
    Kintaro and his many adventures.
    maybe perhpas the ainu and their mythology and kamui and involvement with the god Ebisu as well as the rest of the 7 lucky gods
    Kitsune
    Take-mikazuchi,
    buddhism is very integrated figures and sort of roles within are Buddha, Bodhisattva, Avalokitesvara, Tathagata, kannon, miroku, zaou gongen.
    im sure i messed something up here.

  • @havoc5134
    @havoc5134 Год назад

    I have a little request do you think you could do a video on the Anglo-Saxon god Easter I'm very interested in Anglo-Saxon norse paganism but I can't get a lot of sources so It would be really cool if you did that

  • @wolfboysadventures1039
    @wolfboysadventures1039 Год назад

    From my knowledge the goddess that cried tears of gold was idunn tho I haven’t gotten into super deep research about Norse myth in a while so take that with a grain of salt
    Edit: also from my knowledge baldr is frigg and Odins son

  • @Ingram_Jarl
    @Ingram_Jarl Год назад +1

    Odin DOES NOT cosplay as Gandalf! Gandalf... cosplays as Odin! Damn this education-by-pop-culture

  • @FireFoxGaming_
    @FireFoxGaming_ Год назад

    Freyja has numerous names, including Gefn, Hörn, Mardöll, Sýr, Vanadís, and Valfreyja

  • @akechijubeimitsuhide
    @akechijubeimitsuhide Год назад

    In the Ring Cycle they are sisters, but Wagner kinda just took various myths and wrote his own fanfic XD

  • @EdKolis
    @EdKolis Год назад

    It's Friggin' Brilliant!

  • @josho7138
    @josho7138 Год назад +1

    Norse myths are dam hard

  • @isc8900
    @isc8900 11 месяцев назад

    if time travel is ever invented, I'm going back, traveling to Scandinavia, learning everything there is to learn about Norse Mythology and writing it down.

  • @joshthehammerheadshark7350
    @joshthehammerheadshark7350 Год назад +1

    5:11

  • @LittleTimmy2016
    @LittleTimmy2016 Год назад

    Aw frigg yeah! More videos

  • @rahulrajesh9750
    @rahulrajesh9750 Год назад +3

    also do indian mythology