When An Insane Teen Killer Makes Detectives Snap
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- Опубликовано: 31 июл 2023
- In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Isabella Guzman and analyzing the interrogation from an educational psychological and legal perspective.
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It’s impressive that this schizophrenic teenager was more in control of her emotions than these supposedly “trained professionals”.
when I started watching I couldn't understand why everybody was so angry at the detectives but man...
they need someone professional to do the integration, let alone why the detective get pissed off by a psycho ?? Not worth the energy at all
She's innocent. I hate how you people all side with the police. The State. I bet you all got the vaxx and wore mask too. SHEEP BAh BAH BAH
Yewh
Because she remains calm? It's a damn trait of schizophrenia. She was wasting their time and resources.
It’s crazy how the police let her get under their skin so easily. This interrogation is so hard to watch.
They are idiot thugs. They should not have this job.
It's because their skin is paper thin.
They were aware of what she did to her mother
A total mess
@@mofozi and while that's true, they also need to control their own emotions to control the interrogation. With the "tactics" they were using they could've gotten anything dismissed against her. It's important for them to be able to keep a level head to get all the information to prosecute someone.
I fell asleep and when I woke up the cops still didn’t make any progress with her 😂
Same😂
Same 😂
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OMG!! Same
The detectives seem like the kinds of guys to punch a book because they cant understand it 😂
Okay miss pentagram, go off sis
@@arcandcardinal968 I probably care less about my own profile picture than you do lol
Yeah these cops are pathetic. I have never seen such a poorly conducted interrogation.
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Man these cops are honestly driving me crazy. how the hell did they become detectives?
They are from USA, it probably took them a few weeks of school
Politics. No government related organization is free of politics and corruption. Not one.
@@Retzmag calling it a school is being generous
Homeschool at best lol
as far as im aware the only question they ask when interviewing to be a cop is can you read and count to 10? if yes then you pretty much qualify for the job.
These detectives missed quite a few opportunities to get anywhere with her. I can't imagine why calling her an evil stupid liar didn't work 🧐
Great point!!❤
so true. almost every interrogation ive watched, the moment they finally call them an evil stupid liar the confession comes pouring out. so weird how it didnt this time ;)
Because they had all the evidence they needed, sick individuals like this would continue to lie no matter what
Stay pretty sweetie.
Yeah they missed some boneheaded opportunities. The biggest one was the boyfriend. At about 29:00 she claimed that her boyfriend had ditched his phone but at around 40:00 she claims that she asked the Asian lady to use her phone to call her BF. Why didn't they call her bluff on that.
What's tragic is all of this could have been avoided had that psychiatrist picked up on her schizophrenia, instead of dismissing it as "just girl behavior". Very sad.
Sadly, this is quite common in mental health condition involving women ; . ;
They actually supposed to be trained to recognize something wasn't alright... There are 4 questions to recognize if a person is disoriented she is positive to the 4.
1. She doesn't know the month they are on.
2. She didn't remember where she was founded.
3. She doesn't recognize her age.
4. She doesn't recognize her name.
And yeah is possible to fake it but is not a very common to do, and an actual psychiatrist wouldn't be fooled by her in any case.
Schizophrenic people can be totally fine one minute have intelligent conversations and off the wall and chaotic the next
@@PEDROGARCIA-qj3grSource?
I honestly still don’t believe she’s schizophrenic. She’s just making up BS still. When her original facade failed, she probably just switched to the next tactic where she’d have the best option of possibly being released.
When the narrator basically said forensic files trained HER at interrogation better than a police department.. 😂😂😂 this is EWU gold!
The note that her mother left to her saying: “I know we have differences but I will always love you.” Hurts all the more know she was murdered by her daughter not long after writing it to her.
All the more know? Wait what.. are you related to those morons doing this completely pointless interrogation? 🤦
Absolutely heart breaking😢 she never gave up on her and never would she was a real mother that love her child nomatter how difficult it got.
The mother is a liar and you have no idea what abuse that young girl went through
@@nuggetlover9431 evidence?
@@Itachixgthat’s ‘Samantha’s’ account 😂
The best moment in the interrogation was when the pissed off officer asked her
"Do we look stupid to you?".
Isabella stayed silent, so the officer repeated the question and she said
"I'm not insulting you".
It may not have been intentional, but I very much took it as
"I can't answer that question honestly without insulting you".
Yeah the interrogators fumbled but I can't help but notice the tone of some of these comments in regards to Isabella. Getting a real gross girl power vibe.
@@Etrius10 lol yeah girls are gross
Hahaha. I got that feeling too. Like she was saying if i open my mouth and tell you what i think, it'll offend you. Therefore, i am declining to speak further on this issue cause im not gonna call you out on your srupidity hahaha
It also highlighted his own bad behaviour since he had been calling her names. Pretty sad when an 18 year old killer with mental health issues is more mature than the police officer. He was just venting and bullying for parts of this. So i bet her saying that was like a slap in the face to him considering how he had been behaving.
Yep, and even that went straight over their stupid heads.
this is the only crime channel that brings the best evidence/confession tapes, the most important details, actually explains everything and wraps things up so we know what happened in the end as well as having subtitles for every single person & highlighting important words and sentences said.
my favourite channel
The bit when she said “its not a grand coincidence, its a shitty coincidence” was class 😂
This interrogation sounds like grade school age children arguing with each other. The detectives were pulled down to her level and stayed there. Unbelievable!
No they weren’t wtf….they simply refused to play her games. They had all the evidence they needed already. She was identified by her father-she was caught with the knife used to kill her own mother. You stupid fucks act like you are smarter then the detectives when you aren’t. Just because they didn’t play mind games with a psychopath
So true.
I'd say they went a few levels below her. Sometimes she actually makes more sense than them.
When the super fragile interrogator said, “IS, TOO!” I just bursted out into laughter. A butthurt school girl is exactly right LOL. Also, he’s a shining example of a wife and child beater. I have absolutely ZERO doubt that he’s put his hand on women in anger at least once in his life, but I’d bet several.
For reference, the fragile “is, too!” school girl moment I’m referring to happens when he throws the pen at 56:48
She’s literally using the police interrogation tactics on them, between shutting anything about her real identity down immediately and then minimizing and telling them it’s okay they made a mistake by falsely accusing her 😂 She’s better at their job then they are
This for sure. I would imagine the most effective approach would be to play into her delusion, act like they're on her side, and use the fact she literally gave permission to take her fingerprints and also ask for her DNA.
No she’s just refusing to cooperate no matter what and the detectives already know they have no chance of changing that so chose not to play along with her derangement
Hire her as a trainer.
All they had to do was talk and ask questions to her alter ego and play along and go from there. And catch her in a web of lies that they use to dismantle her at the end. Beginner level shit.
They didn’t need any more information from her, they wanted to understand her motives. They weren’t trying to break the case here.
How do they not have a licensed Psychiatric Evaluator in the room for moments like this?
Because: 1-most doctors are shitty, 2-even though most are incompetent, they are still overpriced, they simply wouldn't be able to afford to divert that level of resources to have psychiatrists 24 hours around.
Honestly, it would be a waste of resources
why would you need a shrink each time someone decide to argue with a woman lol
@AW00047 Not a shrink. A licensed criminal psychiatrist. Someone who can analyze what may be going on in the room and potentially give insight. Maybe giving officers training to recognize mental health symptoms in someone? Maybe run their records and trace back to a hospital. Jails and prisons also have people who can do evaluations on these individuals. It just seems that there is a missed opportunity somewhere in these interrogation videos and not just this one in particular.
As I’m watching this she’s actually handling this obvious bullying really well.
Instead of jail, they should give her an award
Bullying lol. She is evil.
Oh I’m not saying she was right I’m saying the police officer is not acting appropriately at all. She doesn’t really have a set of rules to abide by but he should, and instead he just gets mad and throws shit.
Even if it didn’t get him anywhere else he should have stuck to his training so yeah he was being a bully regardless.
She slaughtered her mother with a knife and the detectives are the bullies? Are you nuts?
@@kingcosworth2643 I’m not saying what she did was okay, it was heinous dude and she’s got an attitude problem. I can’t say whether her “discovered” mental illness is real or not, I’m saying the police themselves got way too frustrated during this interview. There are a couple times they should have walked out and counted to ten and approached it differently. That’s all. Also usually people who are in front of cops acting that way aren’t usually that calm. I wouldn’t be. And when police were acting like bullies in situations with me I did not hesitate to call them out either.
I worked as a mental health provider in the prison system. We had one inmate that fully believed he and the guilty person had “swapped” bodies and he was an innocent person being held in prison while the guilty person was free, living in his body. He also understood that he had to stay in prison because he was inhabiting the body of the guilty person. Really interesting guy.
This would make a good movie
What do you think about the body swapping theory?
dragonball Z 😂
The means the convict is in complete self denial, and his sub consciousness could not come to terms with the truth.
He had demons in him
it would have been interesting to see a real interrogator try to get a confession from her, she definitely seemed like she was in control the entire time.
It would have been even more fascinating to watch, I agree. I watch from with a psychological interest.
It's an odd thing when the perpetrator is the smartest one in the room.
No offense.
She is very controlled and extremely calm. These idiots r playing her game instead of getting to the root of it!!! If someone really wasn't guilty there'd b going off.... wouldn't you?
They had no choice. You aren't allowed to call out "mental illness" anymore
@@redneckreviews3016that doesn’t have anything to do with this. it seemed like empathy would have been a better approach as she shut down with them constantly insulting her
the stepdad seems soo calm for someone who’s wife was just murdered a few hours before 😭
He’s free now
Right? After watching the one on 15yo Greg I was so suss re his calm demeanour, like “yep he’s a psycho-sociopath for sure”. Reality is he probably was still in shock and on a tonne of Valium.
to me, he looked completely ashamed, defeated, humiliated, and heartbroken.
@@moffmore2663 Or he's still in a state of shock and emotional disconnect. I felt the same way after my fiancé was unalived in a car accident.
@@antikommunistischaktionI agree. I was the same way when my brother life was taken. You feel numb at first but when it finally settles, it feels like you’ve been hit by a train. And for the rest of my life, I’ll feel like I’m still under that train. It took me to experience that myself to understand the reaction ppl have after stuff like this.
I dealt with a cousin who was schizophrenic, the best way when they get into this state of being someone else is just playing along and eventually they will break and be themselves, these cops had no clue what they were dealing with and had no patience.
Even without the schizophrenia, you'd think the obvious change of pace is to let her speak about her life. And, then what she did in the past week leading up the the prior night. And, step by step walk through the last 24 hours.
I dealt with a few women and they all argue this exact way
@@AW00047 naw that’s just their normal behavior 😂
@@JohnnysChingaderasyour name says everything we need to know about you, troll.
Detectives need to be shown this video to be educated on what NOT to do in ANY interrogation, whether the suspect is mentally ill or not.
I know the detectives watching this vid mad af getting shit on by a huge channel and millions in the comments 😂
Convicted
It's difficult when you lack the training or intelligence to conduct an effective interrogation. Perhaps they're doing their best, life is hard when you lack a certain level of intelligence.
@b00g3rs21 the US spends ~ $11 billion on funding the police and due to these detectives I can tell not a cent is going to proper training 😅
But they have most excellent police cars to pit u with, full of the most advanced tech. At least they found her hiding I guess that’s one thing
I cannot BELIEVE that their supervisors allowed this dumpster fire of an interrogation to go on this long without calling in detectives that have more maturity and professionalism than a 12 year old. How embarrassing for the entire department!
I think that's what should have happened. Tell the guys to step out and Take 5.
Find somebody whose experienced with this. And say they've got a difficult suspect to work with.
Absolutely!!!
Thanks mr. RUclips investigator. I am sure You have years of experience in investigative methods and could have cracked this case in 2 mins😂
@@afrya3307 It’s not to say any of us could have done a better investigation, it’s knowing that as soon as they allowed their emotions to control them, they lost all control of that interrogation. The same can be said for any confrontation in general. As soon as we allow our emotions to take the driver seat, we are giving the other party control over the whole interaction whether we realize it or not. (The other party could be children, spouses, coworkers, neighbors, keyboard warriors, suspected murderers, etc…) These investigators were very emotionally charged, easily offended, and deduced themselves to hurling insults and objects. That behavior is not acceptable of any professional person, especially a person of authority.
@@kristinahernandez564 but the thing is, they were not emotionally charged...sure they would have felt disgusted with her crime, but they could have easily supressed their emotions. See, this video only talks about the Reid technique in interrogation (a technique which has been critized a lot recently) but there are other techniques which involve interrogators displaying emotion... we see such techniques used in the gribble and spader interrogation and also a bit in the stephen McDaniel interrogation.
Isabella Guzman was found not guilty by reason of insanity during a court hearing Thursday and sentenced to the state mental hospital for an undetermined length of time. The judge on Thursday reviewed the results Guzman’s mental evaluation and ruled she is not guilty by reason of insanity. She will be sent to the state mental hospital in Pueblo indefinitely, until she is deemed to no longer be a threat to the public or herself.
Prosecutors said in court Thursday that after doctors evaluated Guzman, prosecutors believe she was insane when she killed Yun-Mi Hoy, 47, on Aug. 29 in the bathroom of the family’s home near East Yale Avenue and Parker Road.
You might be reporting on what the news media stated in their articles, but I call BS. Isabella wasn't insane when she offed her mother.
She did it to hide her failing grades and expulsion from college. To my recollection, the jury found her guilty of 2nd degree murder; they didn't buy her story of being insane.
She killed her mother over her poor college grades.
@@delanorrosey4730... No? She was a high school drop out lmao.
@@BartimaeusTrilogyFan I was thinking about Sydney Powell.
RIP mom
The psychiatrist she went to that allegedly said “she is just a typical girl” is also horrible at their job. What the hell is wrong with people in that state?
Watching the cops and Isabella go back and forth with stupid banter is actually embarrassing. “You’re evil”
“No I’m not”
“Yes you are”
“No I’m not”.
“Yes you are” …. OMG 🙄
I wonder what this particular interrogation method is called?
"Two 8 year olds arguing" is the technical name, I think.
It's called the "not being a good interrogater" technique 😂
Ahh yes the grade 2 playground technique. 50 percent of the time it works everytime.
Made me sick
Two toddlers going back and forth is what they are 🤦🏻♀️
The sheer amount of control this girl has had over the room is shocking. She literlly interrogated better then the cops.
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In what way, did she control the room, and interrogate the police? All she did was to constantly deny, the indisputable evidence, against her, and ask for a DNA test!
Fr woah.
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@@user-yv8gx5vk7jDid you not watch the same video? She managed to make them spend an hour talking about her identity than the actual crime. They even went as far as to bring her dad in to identify her. She is steering the whole conversation
This is a classical dissociation from one´s actions. They could have easily played along with her first calling her Samantha and asking her what had happened to her. Finally they would have got to the point. The key thing is not to contradict her in the beginning and rather look for discreapancies in her story. I am just stunned how untrained they are.
Classic dissociation, more like classic bullshitting to try and get out of trouble.
@@kingcosworth2643 so what? that's what the cops also thought, and didn't know how to act accordingly, so they failed miserably on their interrogation. It's not even the point about if she is mentally ill or just lying, it's the fact that this was nothing resembling a productive interrogation.
Imagine how many guilty people have been able to walk away from prison time because of how unprofessional these guys are
Imagine how many innocent people were harassed or even incarcerated because of how unprofessional these guys are.
@@Oleoay 100% true, though that seems to be true of a lot of the police
The cops say she is stupid for believing a TV show is real, yet they interrogate her like cops do on TV. Ironic.
He said not everything you see on tv
I also thought Forensic Files was real.
Forensic files on a bad day are better than these two
Fr 😂😂
Forensic files is 100% real
This has to be the worst interrogation I have ever seen. These detectives need to be demoted or fired. That is brutal.
And she needs the electric chair. Mountains to mole hills bud
Complete waste of time! They stooped to her age level by bantering back and forth..."nah-uh...yeah-huh..."
They had a slam dunk case. The father witnessed her in the bathroom with the victim. It was already over.
They were annoyed and impatient but this wasn't a case of having to get a confession.... they had her dead to rights, a confession would have just made it easier.
They were annoyed.... it was unprofessional but who really cares. She was done at this point.
for what? Questioning a murderer?
You don’t just fire or demote someone for a poor interrogation… you train them to be better..
no way i just watched an entire interrogation of literally no progress 😭
"I watch Forensic Files." 😂 Me too! Hopefully I'm never on an episode like this
Applying an empathetic technique just requires an interrogator to be willing to walk in the suspect's shoes until that suspect trips on their own shoe laces. These guys tried to steamroll her and seemed genuinely insecure when she suggested they weren't doing their jobs right.
Being emphatic will open the door slowly
@@sefjung99empathetic*
lol right, "YOU don't get to judge me!!!!!"
Also -- they weren't doing their jobs right. :)
Good comment. Thanks.
@@mountainheather49 they are supposed to be trained professionals. yes, what was said was aggravating but not to an extent to where these detectives should have let themselves get pulled down and stay there the entire time. i mean just watching the interview feels like watching grade school children fight.
The conversation between the cops and Isabella is like listening to a group of 13 year olds squabbling. How the hell did they get to interrogate a goldfish, let alone an alleged killer?
thanks to their bad work, they failed to get a conviction on her, she succeeded with the insanity defense, and now shes in a hospital saying she regained her senses and wants freedom after only 7 years. Oh she also alleges that the hospital staff abused her.
“I’m not isabella” “YOU ARE TOO” crazy
hey that's mean...lol
a goldfish LMAO
It's probably because they already have solid evidence and a witness.
No matter how you want to look at this it is absolutely sickening from all sides!
“Give us a confession.”
“No.”
“Please?”
“No”
“You’re a mean person.”
“Okay.”
“Damn she’s good.”
This interrogation basically
Guilty or not, those officers handled that interrogation horribly. They're lucky they didn't get sued.
They working for Amazon now
lucky the interrogation didn't get thrown out. no one is suing them over this. maybe that's why it was easy to be belligerent
Cops didn't need a confession. What scares me are the others who think she was delusional, while she is clearly lying. Cop know the situation better than all these doctors that already caused this death saying she was normal, and now will cause another one of they set he free.
It seems that they talk to the men softly but this is a young teenage girl and they are downright abusive, inexcusable.
@@crinul They should be because this is insanity. Straight abusive
That was some great use of the Reid technique
by her when she tells the cop "You seem like a nice guy. I'm not mad at you for confusing my identity. Everyone makes mistakes.", thereby building rapport and minimizing his guilt.
Don't judge me by calling me nice! 😡
The dumb technique
This really is the worst interrogation I’ve ever seen. Worst use of the Reid technique I’ve ever seen, if you can even call it that.
😂 yes, she executed it flawlessly, it really put him at ease
@@myseville1976coming from someone who has never been through the training. 😂
When a schizophrenic is on their period, their voices and hallucinations intensify like no other! Sadly this schizophrenic teenager in the full swing of an episode was more intelligent and in control of their feelings then these "officers". What a joke they made of their supposed training.
Is it possible all three are schizophrenic in this scenario? 😂
Ofc no, one police with anger issue management for sure, while other just someone with low self esteem...
😂😂😂 ....Or a schizophrenic, a special Ed student and a boy reared by SIlverbacks walked into a bar...😆😆
the angry cop is actually a religious zealot, so in my book yeah, he at least shows signs of schizophrenia
I’d like to thank these detectives for demonstrating to all other interrogators what NOT to do during an interrogation.
So focus on the detectives instead of the person who did the horrendous crime.....
It’s a teaching moment really. For years this footage will be shown to newbies. How embarrassing for these cops
@@afrya3307you can care about both things. What a concept.
@@DMaria216 well, no because the poster only mentioned the detectives right? She never mentioned the crime. What a concept.
Imagine how they treated people on the street
I cannot see a single possibility that these interrogators have ever in their entire lives gotten a confession with whatever method they’re using, especially the lead, calling her an idiot and asking how stupid she is was insane.
They'll normally only do this when they don't actually need a confession
It seems like they want to get over it fast without doing the hard work.
Needing a confession or not, it’s still completely unprofessional. I wouldn’t even consider the lead investigator in being a street cop. Seems very power hungry.
Although I don't agree with the things they said and their methods, during that part I think they were just trying to make her brain understand that those shows are no proof of anything that she might think could apply to her. As you've seen, she put her palms up that meant lack of confidence and started to question herself about how true those TV shows are, by saying: "So, what do you mean?", "I thought it was real.", "Has to be real.". Because of it, that theory of hers died pretty quickly, otherwise they would be another hour with her speaking about true crime "facts" she saw on the TV show. So, that part wasn't all that bad. Asking if someone is stupid is not affirming it. Even if the suggestion is still offensive, it also makes people question themselves if they are actually being stupid. But calling her "idiot" or saying she has "a stupid look on her face that makes him sick", those were affirmations and it was a very poor judgement on his part. After that, was when I think things escalated too much due to their personal feelings. The throwing his arms in the air and the approaching of the police officer to intimidate her for some seconds, the yelling and cussing, the incriminating pointing, the hitting of the finger on the desk, the back and forth of "yes" and "no" without anything constructive added to convince her otherwise, the throwing the pen... That became quite abusive really fast. Very unprofessional!
He could be mad about her callousness
That is not how you talk to someone with schizophrenia.... how are they so unprofessional? It's insane and kind of embarrassing.
1 - they are US cops
2 - US cops have the minimum if any at all training on how to identify or procede with an individual showing signs of mental illness
3 - they don't care, they just want to stick the charges for an easy court day and keep on going (they'll get paid either way at the end of the day)
They didn’t know she had schizophrenia yet. Not justifying it but they didn’t know at this time
This reminds me of when a bunch of cops ganged up on me outside my house when I fell asleep in my car accusing me of being a drug dealer, then when my father came out to see what happened saying they had the wrong person they asked if it was because HE was actually the drug dealer and when he said no they said “do you want to be?” Aka: “we can make you whatever we want to”. It was crazy I was like how is this allowed?!
because you live in the US and there's no police accountability, that's how.
I had a narcissist girlfriend once, really odd behaviour, behaviour I’d never seen before. Even if you had the evidence in front of her she’d still deny it, you either went crazy or you actually start to believe her and at one point I actually nearly started to believe her until I snapped out of it and realised/realized what was happening. This lady reminds me of her.
i’m glad out got out dude.
I was thinking the same thing . I had a narc bf and the gaslighting almost broke me
Me too
Damn sounds horrible
She reminds me of my girl now
That wasn't an interrogation, that was a verbal argument between a group of classmates in a middle school cafeteria
Damn, your middleschool is nothing like Mine! (JK of course😅)
When she’s like “I didn’t kill anybody..”
& He’s like “Yeah you did you killed your mom last night”
Definitely a middle school argument in the cafeteria 😂👏🏼👏🏼!
😅😅😅
Sounds like DID dissociative identity disorder
yeah after watching a lot of these, we could do a better interrogation, jeez
. Thank you for shedding light on this case. RIP Yun-Mi
i once lost my mind about 15 years ago, i had hallucinations , thought my grandma was dead and a bunch of crazy stuff, weird part is , once i came to back to reality i remembered all of the hallucinations... luckily it was about an hour period that i lost my mind and thankfully it hasnt happend since
I know this has been said in some previous videos but I appreciate you guys calling out errors that some detectives make. It makes things even more insightful for me personally
Edit: people are saying it’s more so a bad interrogation technique than errors in this specific case, and I definitely agree with that, but I’m also referring to previous videos that EWU calls out errors
Wasn't her mother abusive
@@LavaCreeperPeopleno
Really if you think about it, watching someone only do things perfectly every time doesn't teach as much as seeing possible mistakes. It is very interesting to me to see the difference between when they follow technique and when they don't. Human psychology is so wild.
@@CritzOnly ok then what happened was awful...
(Actually nevermind, people under this thread are saying she was abusive)
I'm sure he gets reprimanded or desk duty or whatever a detectives punishment is.
Isabella: I'm not evil.
Detective: Yeah, you are.
Isabella: Nuh uh.
Detective: Yuh huh.
This is a real battle of the minds.
😂😂 Exactly
😂
-Stop calling me Isabella.
-It is your name!
-It is not.
-It is too!!
-No, it's not.
56:40 when that detective yelled "It is too" Like holy shit, like a petulant child. High level interrogation. Like L vs Light Yagami
Lmao, a real chess match honestly
Intellectuals!
Been binge watching your entire channel! Love it
This felt like I was watching a deeply emotionally immature father argue with his stubborn teenage daughter. Zero professionalism. Zero tact. Zero emotional control. Zero patience. Tons of threats and insults. This was embarrassingly bad, to the point that I hope those cops got demoted and sent back to training. These guys are so lacking in the proper temperament and skillset that idk if I can even call them detectives.
One thing I have learned from these videos is a smile, some comfort, and sympathy (all false, of course) gets a murderer to confess WAAAAAAY faster than yelling and being confrontational.
shes a gemini after all.
They don't need a confession in this case... this is just fun and games for them.
They had all evidences they needed to put her in prison for life, so they didn't take bullshit from her.
In this case it wouldn't even work proper interrogation, cause she was crazy and believed what she said. 😗
Exactly. Inflate their ego, get them talking and wait for the slip up
Get them to brag, a lot of these crazies want to brag about it.
I love that you put subtitles on everything that is said, even the narrator. This makes it a lot easier to follow. Not only is the contents interesting, but the production is very good. Keep up the good work!
Yes, I'm hearing disabled and I love it.
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11:44
@@impressiveemu1259I'm the same way but I love having the subtitles, I also have the subtitles on my t.v. 24/7, my son took the habit from me also. But I find myself staring at the subtitles and if I turn them off then it feels really weird. Even though I can hear fine, just habit I guess! Lol
Totally agree! Sometimes it’s hard to hear interviews clearly and the captions are very helpful! Thank you
I find it more interesting that a person was actually getting help with their mental state instead of being sent to prison
It was the failure of the health system to diagnose her with paranoid schizophrenia that resulted in the horrific outcome. At least now she can get the help she needs.
No way he said “ you st@bbed THE B!TCh, 151 times” wtf do you mean “the b!tch”. He so engulfed in his own emotions, he couldn’t even respect the victims. I barely hear the suspects speak like that about the victim, let alone a PROFESSIONAL!
no, isabella had said that previously. he was just repeating what she said
@@juliekubica8140 Without even specifying 'and I quote'? Isn't this the reason why you should do it so it won't be taken out of context tho?
He said you stated@@badumba5511
this could’ve been soooooo good with a great detective😭
Guessing these guys no longer are detectives. All they had to do was wait for all the forensic evidence.
It already is soo good. Very entertaining to watch..😅
The narrator is literally meaner to the interrogators than to Isabella. "For someone that old to not have risen above that rank speaks volumes" GOD DAMN THAT STINGS
This narrator is quite the hypocrite! He trashes the Officers nonstop, speaking about how they should not insult her or let their personal opinions come through their treatment of that garbage.
The narrator does not seem to have a SINGLE negative remark to voice about the vile disgusting heinous garbage piece of TRASH that MURDERED an innocent woman!
I hardly managed to get through this heinous video because of the narrator. I will absolutely not be watching anymore of this channel's videos because of this deplorable narrator that is so bad at his job.
He was said it silently speaks volumes and I was immediately like damn! Okay EWU
I’m glad he pointed that out. Their horrible interrogation “techniques” made it harder on them than it did her.
“Dont tell me how to do my job!!”
someone literally needs to tell this man how to do his job tho 🥴
Bro this litteraly feels like an Amongus Lobby. It is unbelievable how do i hate everyone in the room.
The shade thrown by the narrator about the officers rank and age was god level 🤣
It wasn't shade it was facts.
It makes the shade more shady ☂️ when it’s facts. 😂
😅😅😅 right
Time stamp?
@@billiejostout9341:03:55
The thing is that a botched interrogation can easily lead to a bad guy getting away with a crime. I truly was embarrassed for these guys. It tells me that there's a lack of training which means supervisors have not done their job. What a mess.
Oh yea that interrogation was awful
it seems like theyre part of a good ol boy department
@@TheTiffineykrebs Yeah 100%, it was so cringeworthy watching it, even made me laugh a few times how bad they were and her responses. They got themselves so emotionally attached from the get go that they gave her so many opportunities and openings to refute what they were saying and to gain a little control over the narrative. "Shoddy, shoddy workmanship" to quote a line out of Father Ted🫣🤣
Armchair folks are funny, everyone thinks they are an expert. Have you watched a bunch of 48 hours so now you are the greatest??
@@bobbybanks77I agree what your saying how most these people are cringe but they’re mostly just repeating what video said
You know the detectives are really bad when EWU roasts them the whole time lmao
Usually EWU has a lot of praise for the interrogators which is why this one was so different.
The psychiatrist said " She was completely normal"
This psychiatrist has blood in their hands. How can they allow these irresponsible people be able to practice? This girl is OBVIOUSLY not well. I have heard of too many stories of doctors and psychiatrists who just DONT CARE. There is a serious problem in this country
She is obviously a psychopath, this doesn't mean she is mentally ill, just criminally ill. Many psychopaths walk among us, it is a form of normality.
This is the... 3rd? Yeah, 3rd worst interrogation I've ever seen. Topped only by the one where the dude had bullet holes in his face while being accused of murder and the one where a guy had swallowed a bunch of drugs and was left to die in an interrogation room.
So I guess these guys just barely avoid being the worst detectives on the internet.
Yeah that case broke my heart. The guy that was interrogated when he was the victim and then ended up dying from his injuries. I think that was my number one. Worst interrogation ever seen.
You have a link to your #1 and #2?
@@TheDaveBloom Im not familiar with the second, but the first is Ryan Waller, EWUs video on it is ?v=_c_lmx4LdNw
In fairness, the circumstances surrounding the guy with bullet holes in his face were just really, really unfortunate. There was *a lot* that lined up with the narrative of him being the one who killed his gf and having a black eye from her fighting him off. And it was only about 20 minutes into the interview that it clicked for the detective. And once he understood, he immediately got EMS involved.
In the unedited video, you can even see the EMTs entering the interrogation room and they *still* don't act right away. They continue to question and doubt what actually happened because it was such a freak thing. They also expected someone who was shot in the face and have more obvious damage.
@@anthonyrusso6696 This is why you don't say "he's a murder, **** him" instead of providing proper medical care. Police know that bullet wounds can be hard to find, its in their training for first aid in the field. If you can't stomach caring for someone in custody because you think they're bad then find a new line of work.
Wallers death was at minimum negligent homicide.
Did you know what is more scarier than what this girl did to her mother? The fact that she could have walked free because of how bad the police interrogation was. I do hope these gentlemen have learned from this situation.
You KNOW they didn't smh 🙄 probably got a promotion
how? they had concrete evidence against her. the purpose of the interrogation was to get a confession
The interrogation was a formality by all accounts. The case was air tight due to: Physical evidence found on scene, DNA testing, and an eye witness to the incident. The only way it could get more concrete would've been if they'd had a magic camera that caught it all on film. The only way she'd theoretically walk away free would be an insanity plea, which if that did occur then nothing these investigators could've done, regardless of how perfect they were, would've changed that. That relies on psychologists.
Instead we should see this as a lucky opportunity that we managed to catch their mistakes on a throw away case instead of finding all this out much later on an investigation that would've actually relied on their skills. Now we have the ability to replace them or retrain them with minimal damage done.
not true just because an officer loses their cool doesnt mean tht the suspect gets a free pass
I really do think she was suffering from undiagnosed mental illness. What she texted her friends days before what she did to her mother is bizarre. The fact she called her mother some other name is also a red flag. She was not a sane person and the psychiatrist her family went to go see really fucked up by saying theres nothing wrong with her.
The star of the show as usual is the epic narrator! Love that guy.
This is eerie what we went through with my middle daughter…and it could’ve easily ended up the same way if I wasn’t proactive. That’s why no one should judge parents for doing what they need to do to save other family members. No one.
Explain more
The detectives treated this like a slam-dunk conviction before the interrogation even began. They were too impatient, perhaps emotionally-driven to allow her to incriminate herself. This is a dumpster fire of a hot mess.
Well it was a slam dunk case....they had so much evidence.... if the girl did not fool the ONE shrink who wrote the mental health report to the judge and prosecutor she would be in prison for life...these detectives did not do anything really wrong, people are just parroting what this silly narrator is saying Who most likely has limited knowledge on police interrogations
Considering the circumstances, there is an argument to be made that it was a slam dunk.
@@YokaiX Wouldn't that suggest you proceed with extra caution to ensure success in regards to meticulously gathering all the evidence required following the proper procedure to guarantee a conviction through evidence and proof beyond a reasonable doubt instead of being reckless and fumbling multiple times?
This is DEMONIC. They are not facing a human, thry are facing a demon posessed child. This is what they do. Demon posession seems confusing. Most people WANT to believe that this isn't real, its only "in the movies". It's a demon, or MANY in her.
It's why they're seemingly talking to more than one person......THEY ARE. It's demon posession.
exactly. very emotionally driven. it seems like they didnt even prepare. too cocky
When I worked as an interpreter, one of the first things we were taught was to not let our emotions get involved when working an interview or interrogation, especially when the situation involved a court case or immigration. Handling an interview incorrectly could throw everything out the window, and if the person being interogated or interviewed has a very good lawyer, they can walk free. These interrogators made so many mistakes from the beginning
Emitions😂
@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3ah yes, emitional actions
@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3😂 wooops! Lol thanks
Are you one of those interpreters that do the funny dance while people are talking? I love that.
@@ifeelbetterabouthis.louis3feel better about yourself now that you got the grammar Nazi thing out of your system..? 😂
"astro beam" is a metaphor for quasar, if you consider isabella a time bomb it makes sense, also the fake boyfriend is named after a guardian angel. Her real BF was 19, and she was 15 when they started dating.
‘Can you guys like stop interrogating me”
*in an interrogation room
It’s amazing how her schizophrenia went unnoticed for so long… and when she “acted out” she was sent to live with her dad and vice versa.
She was sent to her dad at the age of 3 ? A 3 year old dont have scizophrenia. Research
@@irenestrmnss4496 schizophrenia is a neurological disorder with strong genetic ties, just because it's latent at that age doesn't mean it's absent; also she wasn't three at that age. she was three when her parents divorced; not when she was sent to live with her dad due to her difficult behavior
@@irenestrmnss4496they could. They just aren't diagnosed with it. Same with an 11 year old. They can have it, they just can't be formally diagnosed.
@@irenestrmnss4496she was sent to live with her father at age seven for behavioral issues and then later moved back to live with her Mom. I do wonder how her parents missed the signs of her schizophrenia though. And while it is uncommon for a person under the age of 12 or over the age of 40 to be diagnosed with schizophrenia, it does happen occasionally. My friend’s sister displayed bizarre behaviors from childhood but wasn’t diagnosed as being schizophrenic until her late teens.
you americans use the words schizo/bi-polar/depression too much, most of the time theyre just a bunch of crybabies.
You know an interrogation is bad when you’re more angry with the cops than the killer 😭
Yooo.. I forgot all about the crime😅 these cops are driving me mad! This is a prime example of why bad cop/bad cop doesn't work
Im more angry with the girl than anyone else lol, I wouldn’t be an amazing detective, especially with that shitty woman I’d lose my mind lmao
Ong making me believe her cause they’re doing so damn bad
Tbh, if somebody put that kid in her place she would've been disciplined to not do what she did. Go work in juvie, I'm telling you once some hit 18, the whole baby talk bad guys thing is what makes them self victimize themselves. No abuse, discipline that's different lol ppl get yelled at more in the military.
Nothings more annoying than a liar.
Detectives got mad cuz she was telling them how to do their job 😂😂
This is serious
This is the most objective I've ever heard the narrator. it's jarring how fair he is in contrast to most videos lol
My wife is a retired police detective. She was appalled at these two police officers. They are not interrogators, just missing opportunities to understand the crime and the perpetrator.
Can your wife not please report or bring attention to these two clowns? They would be the reason why criminals walk free or why the police department gets sued or even why things would be thrown out on technicalities.
@@rose-mariewarburton6228 I'm not sure what your asking here. Are you asking the detective to report this so criminals will get off or wont get off due to bad interrogation skills?
You mean husband? Women can’t be detectives 😂😂
@@benballer617yes... yes they can.
@@benballer617 nice bait account
Please don’t ever let these detectives interrogate anyone ever again.
It’s ridiculous that the comment section is so void of common sense and free thinking. This psychopath just tricked her way out of a murder conviction and all the people in the comments can focus on is the detectives. Why? Because you all have a sickening need to feel acceptance from complete strangers so you comment on whatever everyone else is commenting on. No individuality whatsoever. Absolutely pathetic. Grow up.
@@TruthHurtsSoGetAHelmet that's kinda dramatic lmfao
Why didn't they find out more about 'Samantha' and blow her existence out of the water!?
@@TruthHurtsSoGetAHelmetyour tag is so cringe
@@MurrmorMeerkat Okay you highly mature Meerkat
Before I got to the interrogation part I was so confused as to why everyone hates the cops so much, I'm watching the interrogation part rn and I now understand why everyone hates the cops😭
Saying “my god won’t forgive you but maybe yours will” was SO insanely unprofessional. How the hell are they still employed after this
This is what u call work but free money
As stated in the video this was a undiagnosed schizophrenic with no mental illness history, name the last time you had to interrogate that then talk
It's good they said what they said. They don't have time to pet this psycho.
@@lettiegrant9447their job is to get answers out of the suspect, and nothing they did follows standard procedures. They did everything so unprofessionally, and it’s upsetting. Personally attacking and antagonizing her is completely unacceptable.
Maybe he is jewish. The christian god forgive to murderers so the cop can't be christian.
It really is nuts how these experienced cops let a little teenager get under their skin so easily
Quite ironic given they would have easier job if they were careful
They knew perfectly well of the impact their antagonistic interrogation would have on the outcome of the verdict. Little to none.
@@mgntstr Well she essentially got away with it because of the antagonistic attitude detectives gave.
Its similar to if Judge snaps it makes the court invalid and so the convict has to go thru retrial by different judge.
Its also entirely possible the court wasnt taking the detectives claim seriously when they were found on record to be overly antagonistic, which made her be "less guilty" and as result got away with it and was sentenced to mental facility instead of prison
For the record im no detective or someone studying law, i just after observing it looked that this case on the part of interrogation fallen apart so the prosecution had more difficult time convincing judge for harsher punishment
It's incredibly confusing dealing with someone like her. They could have been more patient but it reminds me of that case where the cop is interviewing that young guy who had been shot in the face and was saying all kinds of random shit that made no sense.... the cop just didn't believe what he was seeing because it's much more likely you're being lied to by another run of the mill criminal than it is you're dealing with a truly unique case.
Dude, arms wide open palms up is not the sign of unconfidence,..
I kind of love how the narrator throws shade at the interrogators, good to know it's obvious enough us non-detectives can pick it up too. It's incredibly aggravating to watch how bad they're at this, they're essentially squabbling like children instead of trying to figure anything out from Isabella/Samantha.
The calmness,monotone and collective behavior REALLY got under their skin because honestly, she was holding her ground and it pissed them off!! This is why you remain professional.
May the man that kills your mother be just as calm.....
@@mtbasshead They're supposed to be professionals and use trained techniques to get as much evidence and talk as possible. I would HOPE the cops investigating MY murder, or someone I loved who was murdered, would use an ounce of intelligence and not act like these bozo bullies. These "bash your way through the interview" methods are untrained bully methods that are LONG since proven to fail. They're lucky the interview can be used for anything in a legal sense because of how they acted. They made their case so much worse because they let a heartless barely-adult "calm" them into acting out?
When professionalism is mistaken for a Mental Disorder.😅😅
They can hardly be faulted for wanting to dominate a shut and closed case interrogation. They made it clear from the start, Isabella, Bitch, You murdered you mother, tell us why.@@DeadlyChinchilla
yeah but her voice is really annoying and how she talks is really really annoying
That teen killer is so insane and great video EXPLORE WITH US :]
It's like the detectives are playing LA Noir for the first time, and it's on hard lol
Crushed me the way her father walked in saying, "That's my baby." after he was asked to identify her. His voice was cracking and the way he went to her was just heartbreaking. He looked so broken at that point.
Creeped me out how her dad pawed her.
I think he expected her to hug him, cause really, you'd think she would be under duress/very scared to be in such a situation@@susanwansley7950
@@susanwansley7950 yes, it was creepy; gave me the chills.
I think he was trying to hug her.
@@susanwansley7950 I personally think he was in disbelief, shock, agony and a whole slew of emotions.
I wish the detectives did better, I’d like to hear her lies about the night rather than denying who she is the whole time
literally the left one needs to never interrogate again
Not buying your OF
@@someguywithnoplan6395 you’re very weird
@@someguywithnoplan6395 excuse you? What are you ....creep
@@someguywithnoplan6395 why did you bring OF up?
Hilarious how the detective says “That’s it, we are done being pleasant.” When they were never even pleasant in the first place… 😂
I swear I can hear the shaggy song playing every time she speaks and it wasn’t me I tell you 😂
SHE didn't make the detectives snap. They were shitty detectives, and should have been removed from the room the second they started yelling at her. This is brutally difficult to watch these two grown men, presumably trained, be bested by a young girl simply because they couldn't get it together long enough to just wait for her to start talking, no matter what it was about, and then respond accordingly with the information given.
Right? I thought the same thing…they didn’t let her talk at all and when they did they acted annoyed. Who wants to talk to someone who acts like that? This interrogation made me mad
By a diagnosed schizophrenic at that.
Bested? The fuck, the girl is a nut case period, lock her up for life
She would have bested you too, because no technique would have cracked her. I've watched way too many interviews and she displays zero fear, and without that you have no leverage. They could have summoned God himself to the room to ID her and she still would deny it. And if finally she decides to drop that lie for a new one she would cling to it just as stubbornly. You could be in there 100 hours with her and get almost nowhere, and she would be winking at you across the table the whole time. You know she's lying, she knows you know, and she's having a blast forcing you to engage with her. She's having a grand old time.
@@shawnkilpatrick4839we'll never know because these buffoons didn't apply any reasonable strategy at all. She may have opened up if they built the report enough to catch her in a few undeniable falsehoods, but they didn't execute the proven methods.
I have been watching your channel for a while, and this has been the most difficult interrogation. These detectives came in too cocky thinking it was a slam dunk, they blew all the interrogation techniques i have seen laid out as standard protocol. When the interrogators lost it she was able to control the interview
It was a slam dunk. There was no question she did it, they just wanted the motive if possible. Her plea of insanity being accepted doesn't mean the prosecution didn't have enough evidence. It means the judge, the prosecutor, and medical professionals AGREED she was schizophrenic.
- literally. Rookie style! A lot of case interrogations are all about “entrapment” techniques and using lies to convince them they’re the culprit. Some innocent people are wrongfully convicted too because of interrogation pressure and wrongful admittance of the crime. I feel like she could have ended the interviews way earlier by just knowing her rights and not waiving them.
She is smart and crazy she know what she was doing. Her goal was to make them snap to beat her so the case would be tainted or a mistrial.
@@JJ-wk8zd yup, played them like a flute. Claimed mental and got out of prison.
It took an hour for them to shut up and listen to her. She is making up lies on the spot for her fabricated identity. She has an excuse for plot holes as they come and her doing this disproves her angle of an insanity plea because delusional people with a psychotic schizophrenic episode don’t do this. They are living a delusion not making one up as they go for what’s convenient for them.
It’s an hour of an 18 year olds fabricated delusion beating seasoned cops here. Crazy.
They also care more about being in control than eliciting evidence. The “art of war” shows that you can be in a huge advantage by pretending to be in a position of weakness and having your opponent think they are stronger. So for instance letting her think your believing her lies makes her make up stuff she thinks isn’t being cross examined. My god this is simple stuff, these cops must have been on the scene or something and impacted by what they saw
Im shocked both these detectives behaved the same. You would think one of them would correct the other but they were the same
That "This is not Who Framed Roger Rabbit" line caught me so off guard. XD
It’s crazy how cops can handle an open an shut case like this so poorly. They left themselves wide open to all kinds of scrutiny in court by not following procedure. This is embarrassing to watch.
She's trying to get out as we speak or has
Aurora CO police are known to be ignorant failures each and every one, time and time again.
Shut up 😂😂. You know nothing about what they do or what could have happened 🥴😂
Because the cops have less education
No they did not they had more than enough evidence and were simply trying to get a motive.... what they did was similar to the gribble and spader interrogators....people just parroting what this silly narrator is saying
If the evidence wasn’t so incriminating, this case may have been thrown out! These are the worst, most antagonistic, untrained Detectives I think I’ve ever seen! They should be taught a lesson on what Effective Detective Work Actually Looks Like!!!!
They should be made to watch videos on this channel.
Videos that show brilliant cops who know how to slowly, steadily bring a suspect towards the breaking point, where he finally confesses.
It's Aurora Colorado they're not known for competent law enforcement.
then why did you not work the case..?? do you even know how frustrated those officers might be on that situation....
They need to make her call her mother Maria, she would not have a phone number to call
@@ImranAli-qh6iz what a dumb thing to say. they shouldn't have this job if they let their emotions get the better of them, other more professional detectives could have actually gotten information from her.
This whole thing happened right next to my house and this is the first I’ve heard anything about it. The parking garage, the H Mart, Overland High, all right down the street from me crazy.
She’s so annoying and so are the interrogators. I can’t watch this. It’s just so frustrating.
Did he literally just call her an idiot and stupid? Wow…the unprofessionalism. He’s screaming and cursing, throwing pens…why hasn’t someone stepped in and pulled him out? What she did was absolutely horrible but he handled that worse than a rookie.
He's not wrong...
You know who has more audacity? The murderer bitch playing games with them trying the whole "I'm just a sweet innocent victim" bullshit
always ohio
@@jonathanalexis6792 ALWAYS!
She should of asked for a lawyer instead of trying to lie professionally for 8 hrs. She stabbed a women a hundred times like, it almost doesn’t matter. Yeah, i wouldn’t want these detectives on any other case but let’s not lose the forest for the trees here
@@easeusjesus except that's not what anybody is talking about
I’m absolutely baffled at how terrible these interrogators are at their job. All they had to do was play into Isabella’s delusions just a little bit to probe her for info and see the headspace she was in at that moment, but instead they resort to personal insults right off the bat as if dehumanizing her will get her to give them information immediately. So unprofessional, these guys need to be retrained or fired.
Well spoken
Yeah I was really expecting something above "you're mean and don't have friends lol"
They're not psychiatrists!
Literally just ask for Samantha's info
@@whatthe3131 they dont need to be psychiatrists to be good at their job. this job absolutely required manipulating the situation to gain information, and that definitely involves enabling the suspects antics as well as dancing around certain topics and being selective of their language. this channel has shown me the difference between a great insightful and effective interrogation compared to an interrogation that was ill-performed. these men require better training or to otherwise be retrained before they perform any more interrogations. if you realize you are becoming emotional while interrogating someone you are letting your suspect get to you and that makes you a liability, its incredibly important to know when to leave the room to let someone else take over and these men not only did not do that, but they also did not correct eachother which is a huge problem.