some people in these comments are more angry at this girl for being immature and dumb than they are at her boyfriend for murdering two people, his own parents
No they're not, it's worth noting because Kat and her interview are a key aspect of the video. You don't need to state explicitly that someone brutally murdering their parents is bad because everyone knows it.
I think it's an important aspect to point out in order for society to learn from this horrific incident. Chandler was coddled and did not have consequences for his actions throughout his upbringing. He chose a sweet, slightly immature girl that he could manipulate. He had been doing that his whole life. These are critical red flags to look for.
I think its more like overly sustained eye contact--like staring into someone's soul without looking away is suspicious, and never making eye contact is suspicious (like the extremes are suspicious)
@@ConniesReviews I think that he points out officer's techniques and when they use it well (like if/how they are following the reid technique), but he points out every possible detail of the suspect (instead of just the notable/important ones,) and he way over-does his analysis BUT it is correct
Honestly, hearing the analysis of Cat just firmly cements in my mind that I should NEVER talk to the police, she's entirely innocent and trying to give as much help as she can it still makes her look guilty or shady. Like damn, I'd get my ass thrown in jail because I'm a socially awkward idiot apparently.
The only things you should ever say are "Am I free to go?", "Am I under arrest?", or "I'd like a lawyer". Police can and will use ANYTHING that you say against yourself, and they're even allowed to lie to you as a means of coaxing a confession out (which is why false confessions happen).
I still feel like she probably knew more than she said.. she knew about the broken glass and possible blood evidence.. i think the narrator is correct when he talked about how she is sort of attention seeking.. she says that she can't eat chocolate because she will become violently sick right before choosing the chocolate cookie 😂😂 plus she has pictures with timestamps when describing everything that happened around the time of the murd3rs.. she seems manipulative and her boyfriend seems like he is able to be manipulated.. he seems just very weak.. as if he ever tried to correct his girlfriend she would probably throw a fit..
Yea. But I keep asking myself why she chose chocolate chip cookie when a second before stated she is allergic to chocolate. I would keep her in custody for 48 hours just for that.
Yeah I obviously don’t know this girl, but I’ve had friends like her. One of their defense mechanisms is to revert to childlike behavior as though they’re imploring you to be gentle with them. It doesn’t always mean guilt. It’s sometimes just a signal that they’re in distress. This is obviously a really stressful situation.
I don't think Cat felt like she was being interrogated. She most likely felt like she was going there to help the police find the parents. She also didn't know they were hurt or injured, so I see her behavior as appropriate.
Appropriate? She's not a 14 year old. Her cuddling a teddy bear, when she knows she's about to be questioned about her BF's missing parents? I hope you watched all the way through cuz she's still in love with the weirdo killer.
@TheRyan88 firstly, she was what, 22 years old? Have you seen college kids these days? They literally wear stuffed animal back packs. Second, yes I watched it until the end, and the entire trial as a matter of fact. She testified against him. Her communicating with him in jail doesn't surprise me at all. A clear case of cognitive dissonance.
@@The_Remnant86i think she was 20 turning 21. she mentioned her birthday being august 21, born in the year 2000 and she said “the big one, i’m gonna get crunkkk”. which means, her brain isn’t done developing. you’re right 100%
Cat seemed just very comfortable with police, maybe yes, immaturity but I think it just shows that she's not scared of them and doesn't have anything to hide
That's interesting because to me it felt like all the silly remarks are her trying not to come off as nervous and scared. It doesn't feel genuine to me at all. The thing about the chocolate cookie proves that to me: she picked the wrong one and was too uncomfortable to stand up for herself. So she ate it very slowly and tried not to throw up. That tells me her needs are not her biggest priority.
I honestly don't think she thought he was guilty. Sometimes it's hard to see the bad things in the people we care about the most. Much less the horrific things he did.
Yeah me too. I mean you also wouldnt think your boyfriend wouldnt tell you if he was going to murder somone ...you think at that age that your boyfriend tells you everything and shes obviously aware that hes weird. And is probably starting to wonder herself like shes starting to doubt. She seems fairly normal and silly and who among us have ever even known when our boyfriend were cheating on us. Let alone would most normal people ever suspect their partner of murder. But she does know hes weird... she definitely trying to defend him a bit. Im not finished the video yet. So hes still innocent untill this video ends !😂
Of course she didn't, but she continued to believe him even after he was in jail. Society could learn a lot from this case. She was likely pretty naive, and narcissists like Chandler prey on people like that.
I agree. If your partner was accused of murd3r what would be your immediate reaction? Anything below crying hysterically is suspicious.. i feel like she knew more.. and the reality is she probably had more of an influence on him than she did him.. i mean his dad was under his "mom's control" so I can see him being the same..
@@NsyShwl you might be the sórt of person to hysterically cry. Not everyone is a dráma queen.... and we have no evidence of his mom controlled her dad bar a psychopath saying so.
chandler did none of that he lies tells tales is lazy and not clever at all he smashed many lives and will pay with his freedom no excuse he is a sad shadow of a human being
I’m convinced that he was trying to set Cat up for this murder. Hiding his weapons on her families farm, transporting their bloody clothes in bags that she had purchased, and using her cleaning supplies to clean up their blood that he ended up returning to her. what a POS. I hope Cat and Mitchel can find peace
I have ADHD and horrible anxiety, they would assume I’m suspicious no matter what. I fidget, get hot, pick at my skin, and have poor memory recall, digress, and ramble.
I first saw Cat when she was in court giving her testimony at trial. At the trial, she was very serious, calm, and forthright in her testimony. To see her go from that very mature woman in the previous video to this young girl in this video is insane to me. It really shows you the amount of damage that Chandler caused within this girl where her youth and bubbliness were essentially destroyed. This girl's life will never be the same having known Chandler
@ulynbotha4407 they kept talking to chandler in hopes that he would tell cat where the rest of his parents remains were. The cops only found his dad's torso and his mom's legs. Plus they didn't find the actual gun until a couple months before trail, it was in Cats mothers gfs barn.
Even if i knew i was innocent, being interrogated like this, I'd be nervous as hell. I'd probably look guilty too. Being under this type of stress is horrible.
@@KaileyB616 Yeah people think that, even after watching these videos, that if they request a lawyer the cops will think that they're guilty and charge them or treat them worse or something, but if you've watched enough of these you will see that the second they say 'no i want a lawyer' 99% of the time the cops will IMMEDIATELY just stand up and leave the room. The only time they don't is if they think the suspect is stupid or slow and they try the 'well are you sure cuz this is your last chance to talk to us' because saying that ONLY WORKS ON STUPID PEOPLE. Why would you need a last chance to talk to them, whether you had actually done it or not? To confess? 😂😂😂 Just stay silent, and/or keep requesting a lawyer. They can sit there and say whatever they want after that point in hopes that you get angry, or seemingly their favorite is to say something CLOSE to what they think you did, but make it sound worse, to get you to respond to correct them. IE if the crime is a straight murder of a woman who has bullet holes in her, the cops will be like "So you were alone in the room with her, did you stab her? shoot her? sexually assault her?" Even if they know she wasn't sexually assaulted, just shot, and then these dumbasses who didn't ask for a lawyer will get angry and be like "MAN I DIDNT SEXUALLY ASSAULT HER I DIDNT EVEN TOUCH HER" not realizing they just basically admitted they did shoot her though, for example. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AFTER ASKING FOR A LAWYER. There is literally no reason to ever talk to the police if they've sat you down for an official interrogation. No detective or investigator on the police force wants to waste their time just to sit you down "just to have a chat" or "to just clear up a few things" when said information is already confirmed and pointless. Ask if you're free to go, and if they say yes, leave. If they say no, or 'you're not under arrest at the moment' but don't say an explicit 'yes' and try to use super passive statements like 'well before we let you go, i need to clarify a couple things' or 'i'm not done with you yet' without arresting you and reading you your rights, then you are currently 'detained' and they want to get as much self incrimination out of you as possible before having to read you your rights, and therefore you need to (you guessed it) ask for a lawyer and shut the fuck up. TL;DR lawyer up and shut up.
forreal. I have a huge fear of people thinking I'm guilty of things I didn't do. probably bc my mom used to accuse me of stuff I never did growing up. I'm not scared of telling the truth, I am scared of not being believed.
Cat seems like a good person and I really can't blame her for going through that period of denial. A lot of people do the same thing when faced with such a shocking reality that's so hard to process. It's a very natural trauma response.
@@dex1lsp you didn't listen to her prison phone calls and texts with chandler? You didn't notice the part where she stayed in the same house with the dead parent's bodies and then the body of the dad is dumped on her mom's property? You didn't miss how she said Chandler was "almost about to be free" before his parents went missing?
Yea, he obviously know they are gonna see that there has been blood in various areas so he tried so overcompensate it with his own bloood, his fathers psoriasis and mothers nose bleeds^^
After all of these I've watched, I've come to one conclusion. There is nothing you can do in an interrogation room. That doesn't raise a red flag. Everything you do is suspicious.
This is why I sort of hate watch these videos, because everybody thinks they are some expert analyst that can 1:1 behavior to guilt/innocence, when in reality behavior is so nuanced and so subjective from person to person that very few things are actual red flags. The only true indicators are deviations from the baseline of the suspect, in my non-expert opinion. Even then, you might not know how someone would react to their parents being murdered vs. them murdering their parents, those reactions could be extremely similar or almost interchangeable. You can't be uptight, but you also can't be immature and relaxed. You can't avoid eye contact, but you can't have too much. You can't not cry, but don't cry too much. You can't be super uneasy or physically unwell, but you also can't be unaffected by the events that have happened. You can't create distance and lean back, but you also can't lean in and be too engaged. There are signs to be pointed out, and I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the context where behaviors are placed in, but a lot of these are also just differences in behaviors that don't really speak to anything at all, just reactions to stress or a puzzling situation. For example, a girl takes a cookie after laying out her allergy preemptively, asks if it's chocolate, is told it isn't even though it is, trusts the guy, and suddenly she's attention-seeking for a miscommunication. What?
A bit like being in a psychiatrist's office: every movement you make and word you say is a symptom. If you don't move or speak, that's a serious symptom!
I saw a comment saying that people were upset with Chandler's girlfriend, and I am going to say right now that that anger is 100% unwarranted. She did what she had to do, she testified against him in court. How could she had known that her boyfriend is a psychotic murderer and a habitual liar? Like that is so out there, she loved Chandler and she loved his parents. She thought she was dating a great guy all around, someone who was incredibly intelligent and a kind hearted person, how could she have known that he was capable of such an evil.
Amazing how she went from such a bubbly, happy woman to serious, sad, and borderline depressed when the police broke how he'd been arrested for his parent's murders. Apparently, by the time she had to testify at trial, she looked and sounded like a completely different person. One single incident forced her to change her personality completely. That's heartbreaking.
change is necessary, normal, and expected. trying to stop it is a bad thing. all this climate change snake oil really fucked us all, the earth needs to change, stop trying to freeze things in time just cos you find it cute.
Imagine being in love with someone who seems to be very successful, only to find out his whole life is a lie and he killed and butchered his loving parents while you were hanging out with him. That is a world-shattering experience, she'll never be able to trust her own instincts not to mention the trauma.
If she kept her legs closed she would have never been in that situation. How are you going to be in a "relationship" when you're still living with mommy and daddy
The reason this is the best channel is because of its content it’s editing, and definitely most importantly, the captioning writing on the screen to read !!!!
When Cat said she always tries to see the good in things...I think that's why she couldn't accept the reality of what her boyfriend had done for a while. It's hard to get your mind around the fact that everything he had told her essentially was a lie. I liked Cat. She seemed to be genuine and guileless in her interviews. She didn't have anything to hide. I hope she goes on to a happy future.
@@peagames2002 Not only that, she knew he was a cheater, and must have known he was lying to her frequently. Compulsive liars leave plenty of clues and signals behind for those who interact with them on a daily basis. She picked him, when he was the "bad boy" of their peer group, while he was dating another girl, stayed with him, and knew he was capable of terrible things, which is why she became so nervous when police suggested he might have something to do with the case. Willful blindness, like a mob wife. This is time for a massive reality check for her, for some introspection and ACTUAL self-development and self-improvement, some responsibility, and for better judge of character and decision making. Hoping she has a happy future isn't gonna make it happen.
Yeah and the Monster clearly has zero concern for taking some of that innocence away from her! She seems like an awesome chick, and her innocence and tendency to see the best in people is probably what made her seem like the perfect person to attach her self to for a monster like him
@remnant4363 she loved him and she was naive and young. Perhaps she was still held out hope that it was all some terrible misunderstanding. I watched her testimony at the trial and she was waaaay different. The full scope of the evidence was laid before her and you could tell she was broken
Cat is such a breath of fresh air. Somehow so unapologetically herself, unfortunately in this context it comes off as strange but at the same time it's so pure and telling that she didn't change her personality during the interrogation.
Why do you folk think this is ok behavior. It isn't a "breath of fresh air". I'm not saying everyone has to grow up the same or anything I'm a 40+year old child lol but there is a time and place and sitting in a police station being questioned about missing people isn't the time or place. The fact she is this age and doesn't understand that is disturbing and worrying. I am all for people being themselves and not what society says they should be, but this woman isn't a child, her boyfriends parents are missing, this is serious shit and should be taken that way. Humans are horrible creatures that never should have evolved. All we do is the same horrible things to each other over and over. When I was a kid, a school shooting, we couldn't even conceive it, and what by February or March of this year there had already been hundreds. We actively destroy the environment, forget that, planet that we live on. We can't go anywhere else, lmao, does that sound like an intelligent creature to you? We deserve as a species, everything coming. I pray you and your families won't be here to see it, because you won't last. I used to think, not in my lifetime, I'll be dead and gone before it really hits the fan, but alas, the Gods do have a sense of humor. 😂😂😂
Dang.. I feel sorry for Cat for experiencing this. Looks like she's someone who can brighten anyone's day when she talks. Hope she's fine emotionally now.
Him asking if he was referred to as a “suspect” was incredibly revealing right away. Suspected of what? They were just trying to find two grown adults…
I disagree, he’s in the back of a cop car and anybody (innocent or guilty) would immediately be suspicious of what’s going on or of how they will be of use to the police it would be extremely stressful for anyone
@@dami5154 I wouldn’t ever think I’d be considered a suspect of ANYTHING unless I did something. It’s the phenomenon of absolutes. Either you know nothing or you know what happened. He jumped to a conclusion because he was guilty. Can’t really argue your point with this footage but understood
I really like how you began this by describing Chandler; the hard working, overachieving 23yo live in college student with a bright future. Pursuing an IT degree, member of a police scuba diving team, employed at an insurance company with a job awaiting him at SpaceX! Add to that, he enjoys cooking. This is the young man whose parents were proud of him and whose fiancée, Cat, was in a trusting and loving relationship where they were looking forward to their future together. Imagine how devastated she must have felt when she realised that their entire relationship was built on a foundation of lies and worse, that he killed his own parents when his manipulative BS started tumbling down around him. When I watch her in the interview, I see a normal and kind young woman who could never dream that her partner is capable of what was about to come to light. Just like Chandler’s parents had no idea. And his brother. All these innocent parties totally blindsided by a pathological liar, though Cat seemed to struggle to really accept what Chandler was capable of for a while. If Chandler put one tenth of his effort into his degree as he did in pretending he was studying, he would have graduated. But he wanted life to be handed to him rather than being keen to get out there and grab his life by the horns. A nasty entitled man child, lazy and self centred. And a vile murderer who killed the parents who loved him rather than facing responsibility for his lies.
he's a psychopath, his brain doesnt work right. basically his dopamine reward system is way too high and his cortisol too low. also he doesnt feel empathy. combine that and it means he doesnt feel negative emotions for doing bad things to people, only positive emotions for potential rewards.
First off, good for Cathryn for being so cooperative. Second off, why are 90% of these murderers idiots? The way he tried to hide evidence blows my mind.
polygraph is similar. Better not be nervous... I tend to think of it as Clue(do). You need a lot of red flags before you can tell it was the butler, in the bathroom with an ice pick at 9 PM who did it. Connect the dots to see the picture is similar. Hell, even wheel of fortune. 'Right in the butt!'
My son has high functioning autism and I have talked to him so many times about never talking to police in an interrogation room and always ask for a lawyer. People with Asperger’s do not communicate the same way and the police would automatically think his behavior is suspicious because he has difficulty holding eye contact and with social cues. Scares me half to death how some police detectives operate.
Yeah these videos and the training of the interrogations are not neurodivergent-friendly at all. That’s probably why so many mentally ill and disabled people are in prison.
I have autism and ADHD, I'm sure with my fidgeting, lack of eye contacts, and random tangents, they'd pin the crime on me even if they only brought me in as a witness 💀
@@gloriaf4015 yes. I have a daughter with Huntingtons disease and I was just discussing with someone how many times she was arrested (when she was still able to walk and talk) for no reason other than not being able to communicate properly, or have difficulty with her gait.
one thing i really appreciate about EWU’s videos is that even when they’re talking about a member of the party who is guilty, they explain how certain behaviours and reactions could be seen/interpreted coming from someone who is completely innocent
if you watch enough of their videos it'll become the most irritating thing about them. i heard those lines like a hundred times, i dont need it to be explained in every video. it would be at least 20 min shorter. :D
@@leventeszaffenauer4142 Exactly. "If you watch enough of their videos." How about people who are new to this channel and this is one of the first videos from them they see? I appreciate the explanations in every video they make. Also, the more you hear it, the bigger the chance of remembering it. Dont tell me you remembered all of those things the first time you heard it
@@terezanedelova6125 a lot of those things are commonly known and usually not even relevant when they are talking about a persons behaviour such as Cat's in this case. it really is annoying hearing the same things over and over again. I love this channel thats why im a regular viewer. And yes i said "if", i wasnt talking about new viewers and i get that it can be helpful for them. For me its just breaks the "flow" of the interrogations and thats what im here for. All this is just my personal opinion, you dont have to be so defensive. As i said i love this channel and its one of the two problems i have with their videos. That doesnt mean i dont appreciate their work.
This just makes me feel bad for Cat. It's not stupid to trust your significant other, and the fact that he wound up being a psychopath who lied to her isn't her fault. The idea of your significant other killing his own parents is unimaginable, nobody in her position would've believed or wanted to believe that. Hope she's doing okay.
Absolutely, i would also, in her position, try to defend the person i love, bc i can't imagine them doing such things. And i am also more gullible if my partner tells me something im not gonna lie, bc "why would they lie to me"
And I think that as his partner, she made an attempt to rationalize anything he did. My ex husband was stealing from my family, and I just could not believe that he would do something like that until I noticed the drug use. It’s hard to imagine someone you once loved is actually a terrible person doing terrible things. I do truly feel for her. I doubt she will ever be able to trust anyone ever again.
@@wickedashley Not to mention. She's a 17 year old girl in a "long" relationship. She was a high school girl involve with her high school sweetheart. Living what she thought was her dream.
She seemed incredibly naive and foolish to me. I mean, you kind of have to be to fall for this guy's BS. She even said that she and her friend (Chandler's ex) always hated him before she fell for him for some reason. Also, an old roommate of Candler's specifically called him a pathological liar. To those with even a bit of judgement, he was a known commodity. I still feel bad for her, of course, but I don't think she's some great person and just like anybody would've fallen for Chandler.
Don't let it bother you. Remember that all the behavior they point out makes for a POSSIBILITY of guilt. There are valid reasons for behavior that could be deemed as guilt showing.
👁️ 👄 👁️ why so guilty? Whatcha tryin’ to hide? Whatcha got behind your back there? 😆 Yeah I’m the same way. When I’m explaining things I get very in my headspace staring off into nothing. My eye contact is best when someone is speaking to me. And even then I typically default to a public speaking tactic of looking at the bridge of the nose. Feels/looks like eye contact to the other person but it’s a completely different focal point and therefore doesn’t feel like eye contact to me.
👁️ 👄 👁️ why so guilty? Whatcha tryin’ to hide? Whatcha got behind your back there? 😆 Yeah I’m the same way. When I’m explaining things I get very in my headspace staring off into nothing. My eye contact is best when someone is speaking to me. And even then I typically default to a public speaking tactic of looking at the bridge of the nose. Feels/looks like eye contact to the other person but it’s a completely different focal point and therefore doesn’t feel like eye contact to me.
Yeah, what I've learned from watching these videos is that anyone with social anxiety doesn't stand a chance. Pretty much all the symptoms are guilty behaviors.
I think Cat is a perfect example of when these interrogation techniques arent effective. I think she just has a somewhat unique personality and she responds to stimulus in different ways than others so clearly the things you want to key on arent as relevant as they would be with others
Cat is innocent and young. She had no idea what her boyfriend had done. I don’t think she realized the parents gone forever, just missing. He lied and cheated on her too.
Being extremely immature and not taking a murder situation seriously is considered likable? Young and naivety only goes so far - she's literally an adult.
But it can make you the victim of crime. At 20, you should have a baseline knowledge of how the world works, including the basics of human psychology and how other people can hurt you. It's unfortunate that this girl had to learn in the most brutal and humiliating way possible.
She didn’t take the chocolate cookie, you can hear the detective tell her one has sprinkles, then she takes one and mistakenly thinks the detective gave her a chocolate one. You can see them have a very brief interaction over it. I don’t think Cat is narcissistic or attention-seeking, I think she’s just relaxed and genuinely doesn’t know how serious this situation is about to get, because Chandler duped her just as well as he did everyone else, she thought she was just coming in to give a statement. I don’t think there’s any reason to call her out for attention seeking behaviour, this chick has been through enough 😊
@AlexAndra-iy5zu No SHE DIDN'T take the chocolate chip. Or if she did it was because the officer LIED and told her that WASN'T the chocolate one. Go watch again. She picks out a cookie. The officer says that one is chocolate chip. Both her (and you & the maker of this video) assume he's talking about the one she just picked up. So she hesitates & asks "this one?". The officer corrects her & says no the other one. To which she responds with "I was going to say..." and raises her eyebrows. Meaning she was wondering why it would have chocolate too when she purposely picked the sprinkle one. The reason I feel she's eating super slow is because she clearly has serious digestive issues, beyond her chocolate allergy, which she's commented on multiple times. And as someone with similar issues, sugar doesn't sit well on the stomach at all. Especially by itself. That combined with the fact she's probably a bit nervous to be interviewed by police (and she's already said she pukes when really nervous), she's probably being extra careful. But she also probably didn't want to seem rude by saying no to the cookie. Or maybe it's as simple as her not liking the cookie. Maybe it's gross lol. Either way the maker of this video should REALLY correct himself as that comment about her being attention seeking based his misinterpretation is really messed up.
@@TrinaWater Where specifically, do you see attention seeking behavior? Beyond that of the average person anyway (no one wants to be ignored after all).
This was horrific. I feel so bad for all the victims including Cat. It was clear from her interview W/ detectives how transparent she was being. It’s also hard to believe the person you love could do such horrific things. I’m sure he was a master manipulator, she was also a victim of his crimes.
my ex and his family was this way. master manipulators, abusive, toxic assholes. his whole family used me for cash, used me for rides, etc. his dad treated me like a child and tried to have sexual relations with me (he’s 63 and i’m almost 21) i’m diagnosed with PTSD and it’s because of what i dealt with. i feel for her entirely because i thought the man i loved would’ve protected me and not hurt me, my family, his family, use me, cheat on me, etc. i never really knew what was going on until i left and started self healing. i feel for cat, i really do. i hope she’s healing now, just like i am. just like others are🩷
@@MarcoGarcia-bj2kt ??????????????? The kid lied about every aspect of his life, to everyone in his life including his parents. He had a good life, essentially a free ride and because his mum was slightly overbearing they deserved to be shot in the head? Are you OK?
I always find very haunting the idea that Bart and his wife literally gave birth and granted life to their future murderer. Crazy to think that the baby you carried for 9 months inside you, took care of, loved, fed, etc... the baby that you delivered 23 years ago, ends up being your own killer.
@@dogelife7901 Sometimes you get psycopaths and no matter what education and values you try to put on them, they may end up killing you. We cannot control how a person turns out to be. No matter the education provided.
As someone whose dad did something despicable to end up in jail, I can't stress enough that it is... really hard to just turn off loving and caring about them. Even if they go to jail for something horrific. My dad is dead to me, but I still catch myself missing him. It's a weird kind of grief to lose someone that way, especially on top of losing two other people you care about. I feel for Cat. It takes a while for something like that to sink in. To know that someone close to you could hurt other people close to you. It also doesn't excuse murder, but it does seem like Chandler was working hard to convince people that his parents were abusive. Chandler was clearly intent on himself being a victim, it would not surprise me if he managed to convince Dulce that they were abusive too. They didn't touch on it here but, for the record, Mitchell did not corroborate that story of Chandler's. We all know how trustworthy he is.
@@kingcosworth2643 I'm 24 living at home and my parents still punish me. It's a control thing. As a kid I learned to follow everything they say and ask of me, it wasn't until college when I got away from the environment and saw what healthy parent child relationships are from my peers. I'm living at home again after 6 years because of a mental health crisis that ended up with me in the hospital. Couldn't work at the time because of it and had to rely on my parents financially. I'm afraid of being seen as parasitic while trying to heal trauma through intensive therapy over the last year. The biggest obstacle to my progress and moving out is my dad's obsession with total control over my mom and I . I backed into a mailbox and scratched one of their cars on the way to therapy and my dad took away my car privileges. That was 4 months ago. I cannot leave the house of my own volition even to doctor appointments or errands or anything. Yet they expect me to "grow up and become independent" while his hands are hypothetically around my neck. Luckily I've never been diagnosed with psychosis , just PTSD, anxiety and depression from a robbery I survived. The emotional abuse from my parents are holding me "prisoner" and therapy is keeping me afloat. Unlike Chandler I'm not capable of killing. If anything I'd do myself when I've had enough. It's odd how similar our circumstances are, middle class family, older sibling moved out, struggling to finish college (I did it just took 2 extra years), parental pressure. Except I have empathy and am over emotional.
Fun Fact: My son is a Police officer also in Wisconsin. He was taught not to memorize the Miranda rights (even though it happens due to repetition) They are taught to read from the card because it has to be said properly (no mistakes or missed words)in order for it to be admissible in court.
Yes, and because the defense always picks through the police work/documents to finds all their mess ups and mistakes so they can win the case, get it dismissed or get a mistrial, just depends on the case though.
@@Flotter-Flo Oh Yes! I'm sure there are multiple reasons. That one just stuck in my head. I originally "assumed" memorizing it, would have been a must.
That's so interesting! Just yesterday I watched 2 cops on the witness stand declare that they didn't have it memorized. I thought they were lying so Thank You for educating me! Have a lovely day! 🕊❤️
Cat’s interview is a perfect example of why innocent people don’t cooperate. Her phone, her car, her DNA, her time and her boyfriend… poof. Gone. All taken in a matter of hours. But at the end of the day, she’s very lucky to have survived a relationship with a dude like him. If he could do that to his own parents, it would’ve been nothing for him to hurt her.
It was good that she cooperated. She was cleared wasn’t she? I do agree that she should have had a lawyer with her, but due to her innocence it would have been impossible to know that beforehand. She did good.
Don't forget her other belongings, they didn't even gave her closes or her employee ID card back even though they knew that they don't need that. Furthermore they refused to state publicly that she ain't a suspect.
>this is why innocent people dont cooperate, because the police will take things that can be used to solve the crime, after which they will give them back are you mentally challenged? police should not take evidence? do you care more about your phone and murderer boyfriend or do you care about upholding the truth and law?
My heart broke for that girl. People blaming her for being naive or inmature can seriously go to hell. No one with a good heart like her would suspect the person they love to be a murder in this situation. I hope she will recover from this at some point.
yall act like shes a child. shes playing the ted bundy card and coming off as charming and innocent and trying to make friends with the officers. shes just as guilty. its not naivety especially when shes playing kissy face with him over the phone after hes been arrested for killing his parents...
I think people see a different side of her when she is being all lovey dovey and sickening sweet to a guy who is in jail for murdering his parents. Most people would not want to even talk to him after that much less acting coy ....
I’m lactose intolerant and although I get extreme inflammation and sometimes violently ill, I will still eat thing with dairy in it. It doesn’t mean I’m seeking anyone’s attention. It means I’m making a decision to enjoy something that tastes good even though I have to suffer for it. You make too many assumptions in your videos.
Fr I’m sensitive to peanut butter and I get a rash when I eat it. I still eat Peanut Butter cups tho because I love them. Haha as long as it doesn’t kill me I’ll eat them a rash isn’t that bad and if I eat it slowly I usually don’t get one. Also the forbidden fruit is always the sweetest.
@@Eileen_Yulick Speaking as someone who is lactose intolerant if I wanted to clear an interrogation room I would 100% drink a cup of milk. It might take a bit but believe me nobody would want to be in that room afterwards.
@@AstralAnubes be careful with that rash dude! Allergic reactions like that can sometimes very dramatically worse and out of nowhere! But also, I don’t blame you. I don’t think I could give Reeces up either xD
Just be careful! Regular exposure to allergens can make the reactions much worse in the long term. It may not be a severe reaction now, but it could be down the line! 😰
I feel so badly for Cat. This had to have been incredibly stressful and traumatic. Her being "immature" and "child-like" is likely her response to this awful situation. Everyone reacts differently. She did the right thing by cooperating, being truthful, and coming forward later on with more incriminating information, like his location on the Snap Map. Finding out that your boyfriend is a psychotic killer would be a major shock. Wishing her healing and love. 💞
I don't think she realizes to this day that HER life was in danger that weekend. Imagine when she was over at his house, if she'd stumbled upon evidence of the murders. The parents weren't even reported missing at that point. He may have still believed he'd get away with the killings, and killed Cat to keep the secret.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns our death dates are predestined by Allah so Cat would never have died that day. and these criminals who murder can only get away in this world
Soft interrogation rooms are so strange. I was involved in something years ago, and got questioned in a soft room and it was the weirdest feeling. Felt like I was being interrogated in my grandmas house 😂
She was literally given all the evidencence that he committed the horrific crime and that he was lying for years prior, that his entire life was a lie, yet she decided to keep supporting her. There's something messed up, moronic, and disgusting about that woman and that's a fact. And people that are sympathising with her are some of the dumbest people around and maybe just as messed up as she is.
@@jovanleon7 She's emotionally immature, and as stated was deep in his manipulation, but she's not DISGUSTING nor MORONIC, she was likely just deeply in denial. Near the end she comes to terms with whats actually happened and cuts him off.
at 1:06:10 she's hesitant because she quite literally has explicit pictures on her phone, she was about to say that earlier when the lady said they don't care about those, that's not a red flag, it's just caution cause she doesn't want others to see her pictures
@@MrJamesRustle crazy lol what part from the cabin being untouched to the random over explanations of his parents always bleeding around the house did u not get. thankfully these detectives aren’t airheads..
I feel horrible for Cat & her family being absolutely shredded online for a crime they had ZERO knowledge about or assistance in. Its gross how the world feels entitled to her reactions or her demonstration of anxiety or fear. 😮😮
Wouldn't you feel absolute disgust for someone that buried their dad in your property and was dating your daughter??? Or is that just a normal things for Americans to go through? Just curious.
I mean she is a complete moron but she also didn't demonstrate any normal emotions after it was clear that he murdered his own parents. Not sure if she's just that dumb or if she has serious psychological issues to?
I'm so sorry for cat, she seems like a genuine person who stays loyal until the end of time. I think people who are always loyal and a hundred percent commited to their partner, are way too rare in this world.
@@BlueDogEthereal i said it makes it sadder, not that it was the reason I was sad. Be stupid somewhere else. Actually be stupid nowhere and just be quiet.
They look like fun parents too. Plus they took him in when he needed a place to stay. I wanna bet his parents cared about him and tried to separate him from cat so he can get back on his feet without distractions. Him and cat prob didn't like it and got rid of the parents so they can be together forever. He probably thought he got away with it hence him barely hiding evidence like phone wrapped in foil and bodies near the barn.
@@PHEARVII separating your kid from their SO is going to give them less of a reason to get it together, not more. at least with the SO, they have something to live for. i completely disagree with them not allowing him to see his girlfriend at age 23.
@@barbrothers2 nobody even knows if the parents were trying to keep them apart to begin with. That could have just been another one of Chandler's lies.
Ok so i understand Kat still being by his side after his arrest. Shes young, wants to believe her bf isn't a murderer, probably doesn't want to face the grief of knowing that the past 2 years of her life have been a lie. But how could her mother, who literally watched Chandler come back from dumping the body, be ok with talking to him and allowing her daughter to continue contacting him??
@@raisinbrancerealofficial It's also difficult to know exactly what info everyone had at the time of each call. Made more complicated by the fact that we go into hearing the jail calls already knowing everything, knowing he's been convicted, and knowing what the cops had already found out. No clue what they had actually told Cat and her mom though.
she might have been trying to get more info or stay on good terms with him in case he ended up getting out early and leaving with her daughter…or she’s just as crazy as him
The jailhouse calls suggest he was able to convince her that he had reason to kill them. This final attempt at manipulation didn’t end well because, as the video states, shortly after the jailhouse communications Cat realized he was lying and cut contact entirely.
Hate people who use the term “addicted” for something that quite literally is not a fucking addiction. You guys need to do so much better because the shit is not cute by any stretch of the imagination. There are other words. Just say you love these videos and keep it pushing. It’s not a fucking “addiction”
One of my OCD things is the constant worry of being accused of a crime I didn't commit. I'm also super uncomfortable with eye contact so I barely look at people a lot of the time. So now I guess I have a worry about that too now lol. Other OCD ones are being murdered and no one solving it, not leaving enough evidence of me being somewhere behind, leaving too much evidence of me being somewhere behind, getting blood places on accident and police thinking something bad happened to me there, writing something that would be misinterpreted by police if I went missing, ect.
Listening to him describe the cut on his foot almost seemed like him describing the murder. He would describe the amount of blood “coming from his foot” and how much blood there was with a look of absolute horror. I can’t imagine the images that were going through his mind as he pictured where the blood actually came from.
I see a lotta people who do not like her chatty personality like goddamn chill yall 😶. At the time of interview she didnt know that the grandparents were dead, only thought they were missing and that it was her boyfriend yet, she was like a ghost after they dumped the info on her.
I watched Cat speak during the case, I feel so horrible for her. The feeling of betrayal she must have felt is unimaginable. She loved Chandler's parents like her own.
@@littlebear1771 Nervous laugh? I sometimes laugh when I talk about things that have negatively impacted me or have a strange reaction to something overly brutal on TV. A dude getting randomly crushed by a tree could make me laugh from a show, but witnessing it in real life would fuck me up.
@@DioOdinson As the video above states, she only talked to chandler for a short time afterwards before coming to terms with and accepting that he had really done this and cut contact with him entirely. She then testified against him in the trial.
I actually watched this trial. The mom was in a freezer that Chandler stated Cat shouldnt open while she stayed there over the weekend. I believe she even went and got something from the freezer he said she COULD use. The weapon used was an SKS rifle. Think Chinese AK47. The thing that fascinated me about this case was the amount of work he went through to SEEM like he was an upstanding person.... Half that work could have gotten him a decent job somewhere...
A few woman came out during the trial and stated that they were also dating chandler and had a relationship online. He even sent them photos of himself to these women in the same area where he left his mothers remains. Cat's family believed him on how "poorly" his family treated him which one of his many lies. All for him to try and blame them for the murders by leaving his dads remain on cats moms farm. He seems to enjoy infantilize himself with the people in his life.
@@Malzy518777 Did you watch the whole video? It's in there. Evidence he dated other women and even did some things with men. Along with everything he said he was doing (school, work, house) all being made up.
@@yokoma5480 are you joking? You are talking about Chandler halderson case right??? He lied about EVERYTHING. he made up an entire fake life to his parents and people around him, saying he went to college and making fake transcripts, saying he worked at space x, he did whatever he needed to do in order to keep being taken care of at home with no real responsibilities.
Cat is clearly struggling to come to terms with the truth , it's a coping mechanism to just carry on as if things are normal. As she finally came to terms she clearly had worked through it. Hope she and her family along with Chandler's brother and his family can move on as best as possible
What mother would happily talk to a monster fully aware of how lucky they got. But seems they don’t see it as they got lucky on many levels. Listening to the mums convo at the end, gave me shivers for the wrong reasons. They sound too comfy, almost like ahhh we all could’ve gone down BUT, he’s took sole responsibility. Won’t be surprised if the daughter ends up with a cruel dark side.
i hope Cat is aware of the love and support she's received from the public throughout this whole ordeal. she's super likeable and sweet and i feel awful for her that she had to go through this. i can't imagine what it's like to find out the person you loved is the complete opposite of who they say they are.
Well, would you keep telling that person you love them multiple times on text and phone that is clearly being recorded after finding out he dismembered his parents and scattered their body parts on her moms farm? LMAO.
@@wavyremixapparently the police were asking her to do it in an attempt to find the rest of his parents missing remains but then again she does come across as strange so who knows but tbh if you watch her court testimony seems like the whole thing really messed her up
Not one person can say how they would react if they found out someone they loved killed anyone, Unless you are put in that position. Logic says you wouldn't obviously, shock and trauma, you can't plan your reaction. Poor girl. Sick twisted man.
That’s what happens when you are that kind of parent they would be disappointed in him if he lied. Remind you he’s an over achiever and parents couldn’t be more proud. That set him up to be ashamed to lie because he can’t handle the consequences of the disappointments he caused I honestly think this is a good kid who just finally snapped and the outcome was his parents being murdered
@@Tara-f2k exactly my point - poor paranting. It’s the way they parented that caused this. Note to self. Accept your child the way they are. Then they will grow up true to themselves and not resent you later for it
I lied to my parents for a few years about my status at my college. I wasn't expelled but I did poorly, struggling with depression and alcoholism from never before addressed childhood of abuse and domestic violence. It never occurred to me to kill my parents, God forbid, but I regretfully admit to having sometimes wished for my abusive parent to die in a plane crash or similar, in lieu of him finding out that I wasn't achieving like he expected me to and facing his punishment. Can't say I understand Chandler in his actions, but I understand his fear. Unfortunately his story ended in a tragedy for everyone involved.
I watched this case on several channels by now, but this is the fist one with so many actual footage beside interrogation. You always add something extra that makes it worth it and unique, even when you are familiar with the case. Great job!
Yup, everyone else circulating the same Chandler footage 😩😩.. Sometimes I wonder why some channels are even monitized. 1 sentence commentary and then “copy and paste” the interrogation which we had already seen live from the trial months prior 🤨.. One guy even claimed he put the subtitles on Chandler interrogation and I called him out 😜
I don't know how you could ever kill your parents but what really floors me is the amount of people that talk to the police in an interrogation room, and don't request a lawyer. Always get a lawyer people! Even if you're innocent ask for a lawyer before answering any questions, everyone makes mistakes, even cops, there are tons of people in jail for crimes they did not commit.
Nobody knew the gravity of the situation at the time of the interrogation. Especially Cat. They didn’t even fully comprehend it was an interrogation at all til they started hitting them with challenging questions. They thought they were just there to help the police with a missing persons investigation. Most people cooperate and don’t have any reason to be defensive at that point.
Guilty until proven otherwise. Damn. I am a highly anxious person and i always fear that if i ever get stopped by the cops they're going to think I'm hiding something. I already have trouble keeping eye contact with people.
Here it is. Was sad when it got taken down mid watch last night 😔 but yay now I get to watch it tonight. Thank you to everyone making this channel what it is!
I’ve heard of this moron before and in pretty good detail, but I’ve never seen or heard the POV and questioning of the girlfriend. It was extremely insightful and the fact that she did give the investigators seemingly all the information she had, like the location she saw him at. Awesome video, thanks for the hard work!!
yeah man, she gave up some pretty fantastic evidence against him! I think she's amazing, it would have been so hard to do that to your partner.. I hope she's doing alright 💜
@@michaelgarcia4782 I think Robin means that she has kind of personality that helped a lot because for example when I imagine myself there I can't see me taking my phone just like that and showing photos and talking talking talking with details, she's just crazy helpful, she remembers stuff and she knows time etc. It's interesting though, how would she behave if she knew what he did.
@@michaelgarcia4782 I actually was thinking more when she had gone back with the GPS info, she didn’t have to and that info gave them the location of his mother’s body. It took a lot for her to her thru this… it’s crazy to suddenly realize you’ve been in a serious relationship with a true psychopath.
Cat was smart to catch that tip that helped find his moms body! That gave them just the lead they needed for sure. That truly lets you know she was trying to help in any way she could and I can't imagine the mental turmoil this put her through.
Indeed with all of that calamity goin on before she even made it into the police station when it hit the fan for real. She dug out that seemingly non significant detail and figured that it was a major piece of info after all. Look at me using rare words jk lmao Much RESPECT to Cat! A dream partner IMO and he wasn't worth a min of her time. So sad but refreshing to know there still solid people out there.
This one really shows the difference of a person telling the truth and a person who isn't. This one is very clearly different than others who are obviously lying.
I've been waiting for you to cover this one! I live in the community of where this happened. Couldn't believe it happened. Chandler is a selfish man-child that deserves to rot for what he did to his parents over something so stupid. Sad.
Do innocent people like Cat in this video have a say in whether their interview footage might end up being shown publicly, such as in a video like this? I would absolutely hate to have thousands of people analysing my behaviours in the comments, my anxiety is already bad enough
Glad I wasn't the only one who felt a little uncomfortable seeing this go down. She didn't do anything wrong, and now commenters are calling her stupid and weird when she wasn't the one who lied x500 and murdered her parents 🙄
@@Kyra-qn3nh yeah if this happened to me I would have to make myself not read the comments, because if I read all these comments about myself I would feel awful and it would play on my mind, I HATE the idea of hundreds of thousands of people seeing footage of me in one of my lowest moments that I did not expect to become so public
@@arthurb6882 Uh yeah if I was ever being interrogated about a murder I can't conceive of any scenario where I would want to find videos of that interrogation online at all, let alone to read the comments on the footage of me being interrogated about a *murder*
Cat seems like genuine albeit weird person. Very happy-go-lucky, trusting, nothing about her screams guilt. It's no wonder she believed this proficient liar that murdered his parents.
This is actually crazy that he made up his whole life and when the facade started falling apart, he straight up just killed his parents, who he was lying to. Ive actually heard multiple stories like this.
Not really crazy, as soon as they said his father set up that meeting. I realized (acc felt, can comprehend) how much that would mean his life was over to him. It’s not easy to sustain lies of that magnitude for over a year, even commit to the bit by physically harming himself to the point of nerve damage & have it all come crashing down. How much Cat believed him & could never see him doing those things is such a great indication of how much lying it took. His whole life (the fake life) he built was over, unraveling the school lie, was the first step in unraveling the rest of his web of lies. He would lose everything- his gf, financial support from his already v harsh parents, face in society (all the ppl he lied to & had rships with - romantic & otherwise even his absentee brother). I can see how to him that was the v logical next step. He must have felt there was no other choice. Edit: also the sheer amount of panic on finding out he was about to be found out plus there’s nothing narcissists hate than to lose face so
I too have lived a web of lies. Very stressful, do not recommend. Although I will say, my "escapism" coping strategy (while not perfect) was a lot better than this guy's "murder" coping strategy
I love the way you tease out what will come later in the video rather than telling all the circumstances in advance of the interrogation. It makes it more interesting for those not familiar with the case. I already was because I watched the entire trial but many have not! Kudos!
oh I agree. I had never heard of this case. So having it play out the way they did here was really riveting. I liked Cat right from the start and I was sooo hoping she had nothing to do with the murders. This was really well put together.
@@muppet-fan If you go watch the trial it is just heartbreaking to hear Cat on the witness stand testifying against Chandler. She sobbed through most of it. Very unlike the way she behaves here in the interrogation and in her communication with him while in jail. That behavior stopped pretty fast apparently as more and more evidence emerged and she turned against him and testified for the prosecution. I hope she got some good therapy. No one wants to have to say they have such poor judgment they were in love with a murderer/family annihilator.
@@kkheflin3 yeah, so I wouldn’t say she had poor judgement, Karen. She was lied to, and the lies were very believable as even his parents believed them. I’d say that you’re the one with the poor judgment based on how you judged this wholesome, innocent girl.
@@kalliemae1054 Obviously, I didn't express my sentiments correctly. I feel tremendous compassion for Cat. I said that it was heartbreaking to hear her on the stand. What I MEANT was I hope she gets a lot of therapy so she DOESN'T go through life thinking her judgement was poor. If she doesn't get therapy she likely will carry that with her. Many do. It's a constant theme among many who get duped by someone such as Chandler. They can't believe they didn't see the signs and they blame themselves for not knowing. Hope that clarifies I am NOT victim blaming.
@@kalliemae1054 Nothing she said was karen-like, she was sympathising with her, However you just wanna find an issue within anything, now thats Karen behaviour, maybe do some self reflection?
I appreciate the fact that you point out that handing over DNA or digital data is putting yourself on the roulette wheel of future criminal investigation, no matter how uninvolved you may be to any of it in reality.
Minority report 😝... Social credit scores on the way , ...biometric scanning for banking, internet usage and generally any other function you need to get by in modern society. The last couple of years with that ridiculous psy-op that was run on the world is a clear sign of the direction these 'elite' want us to go , .. basically a beta test to see how well the western societies would submit to it. People are dumb as hell for going along with it. There's a reason why they're called sheep.
So some of the dna testing companies will attempt to match up suspect dna to their database (some will not cooperate). I have a relative who is a pedo. I made sure when I did my test for genealogy purposes to pick one of the companies that shares dna with police agencies. I can’t make him into a decent person but I can try to make sure if his dna winds up on a victim that it leads back to him. I still haven’t said anything to him about it and don’t know if I will. It’s my responsibility and my revenge.
if you rewatch the interaction of her at 12:47 the male interrogator explains that the one that was still in the box had chocolate not the one she chose. her reaction at the end is even more evidence that she did not purposefully choose a chocolate cookie.
Trauma bonds are real. Both trauma and denial may have been what kept Cat around for a while after he was arrested. I feel for her. I am not sure how I would cope knowing my boyfriend was capable of such horrendous things.
She cried for his parents, I'm sure she tried consoling him in the time she thought they were missing, imagine how she must have felt looking back! Completely manipulated and used, I feel terrible for her.
She did good. I've been in an interview as a witness to something I didn't even know happened. I wasn't guilty of a thing, but an ex-friend, (not a boyfriend) of mine tried to rob a store and got back in the car with me like nothing happened. I calmly drive home knowing nothing then the cops came to my house because the store employee was running around looking for the robber. He looked right to my car and asked if I saw someone run from his store. I said no I didn't see anyone. I had no idea the guy with me had tried to rob him. But the employee took my tag number and gave it to the cops. I hadn't figured it out yet myself and the cops were accusing me of being a "getaway driver". I thought they were there to talk to me as a possible witness in the area until they openly accused me. Thank God, my so called friend just told the truth and didn't get me thrown in jail with him because I knew I was innocent and I did not lawyer up.
The prosecution did an amazing job on his trial. And I’m glad that y’all mention Cat was cleared because at the beginning I was afraid she was going to be made out to be an accomplice and she truly was just another victim in this situation and she ended up testifying in his trial which had to have taken great strength. I hope she’s able to move on from this awful situation.
They refused to give her belongings back and they refused to state publicly that she never was a suspect till the end. So they harmed her that way. Certainly corrupt and not "amazing".
I feel awful for his parents, but also for Cat. Realizing the person you love and have been in a relationship with for two years is a pyschopath? That's going to be really hard for her to come back from. Personally, I don't think I could ever trust someone again if they did that to me. I'm glad she eventually saw him for the monster he is.
What are you talking about. She obviously helped him and as you can see in the video neither Cat nor her mother had any problems with the fact Chandler murdered his parents and tried to bury his dad and various things on the gfs mothers property.
@@sirweebs2914 did you pay any attention? He lied to them, he said he was gonna use the pool. He cheated on Cat multiple times, she cooperated with police because she truly believed he was innocent. She acted like someone who did nothing wrong because she did nothing wrong
@@mariacamilavega1720 no, you didnt pay any attention. They didnt care what he did, she texted and Phone called about how they would marry after he comes out of prison, her mother even came up with excuses for him when they were talking on the Phone, he cheated on every girl he had, cat knew that and decided to be with him because quote "he liked Star Wars". And she at least was an acomplice to murder as she was caught in her lie about the blood she has seen wich she then corrected into "oh, I didnt actually see THAT much" followed by "I didnt see any blood personally.
@@sirweebs2914 they didn't know. How are they supposed to know if he lies his way through life? He faked college, an injury, a SpaceX job. He kept making emails to convince his dad he was going to college. She BELIEVED him. Call it being delusional or naive, but she truly thought he was innocent. She gave everything she could, her phone, locations, pictures, DNA, because she honestly thought Chandler was innocent. And with the way she acts, if she had anything to do with it, she wouldn't be able to hide it anyways. If this is how she acts when she's innocent, imagine under the stress or the pressure to actually being an accessory to murder
constant eye contact is suspicious, periodical eye contact is suspicious. if you’re ever getting interrogated make sure you close your eyes the whole time.
Can you imagine raising your child, not for 17 years until they graduate high school, but for 23 years, providing for them, only for them to turn around and butcher you like you were an animal? What a sick SOB
The hate for kat is unreal. When i was 19, i was told by multiple people that my boyfriend was abusive. I thought, "him? Yeah right. He's amazing, he treats me so well. These people are crazy." And a year later i was in the hospital with broken bones and a busted lip. When you're young, you're naive. Life hasn't gotten "real" quite yet. And you think you know everything. Love can cloud your vision. I think she's just quirky and immature. I think he found her easy to manipulate.
@Little Bear nah. My mom was dead way before she could give me any real life advice. 😆😆 but hey, hopefully you're healing whatever it is by coming onto true crime RUclips comments and letting it all out. 😆
Sad for the girl, she seems like such a good and fun person to be around. it's like she was still holding on onto the hope the last 2 years of her life were not a lie.
@@Kyle_RielYou know what’s creepy and weird bud? Flooding this thread with the same comment over and over to several different users. What exactly did this girl do to you to hurt you so bad bro? Lmfao
@@joeschmo2784 you know what's even sadder, weirdo? Noticing that I left 5 comments in a thread with 15,000 lol. You obsessed with me, dude? But she's definitely a psychopath. "Oooh a Poohbear" You're a sucker
Why? She would eventually have to give up all the stuff anyway. It would just take even longer due to her needing to wait for a lawyer then any processes they have to go through before actually attaining the info/warrants. She did nothing wrong and by doing what she did, she cleared her name as quickly as possible. You’re too dumb for your own good lol
@simulationkoyochildish people can still know their rights 💀, you don’t have to have no hobbies, personality, or life in order to be a responsible person
I watched this entire trial second by second and I thought I knew everything there was to know, but I appreciated how there is new information in this video. You guys did a fine job breaking down this horrific case.
I didn’t get to finish the episode and went to watch the rest today … I was so confused about what happened to it. Then I saw it wasn’t on their channel anymore
The clips comparing cat and chandler in the back of the cop cars was put together perfectly. The stark differences are hilarious, watching chandler squirm with fear and anxiety makes me smile. Not to mention cat talking about the most random stuff, her personality is so cute.
@@user-fo1ow1jq3b whatever you say. Just trying to let others see a different perspective they might not see. Tell me you guys would still call a man “cute” and “quirky” if he said “is it true they make these leather bc it’s easier to clean piss, and shit” when he’s been bringing in for questioning about a murder or missing person.
As a true crime content devourer, I have already seen many things on this Chandler Handler case, so I was hesitant since I thought it might be a rehashing of the same stuff. However, I am super impressed at the fresh angle on a well-publicized case. This video added some fascinating nuances to the existing narrative and was well worth watching. Thanks Explore With Us for always raising the bar.
some people in these comments are more angry at this girl for being immature and dumb than they are at her boyfriend for murdering two people, his own parents
No they're not, it's worth noting because Kat and her interview are a key aspect of the video. You don't need to state explicitly that someone brutally murdering their parents is bad because everyone knows it.
@@IamPinhead Facts. Chandler is a monster and Kat is merely insufferable. Lol.
I think it's an important aspect to point out in order for society to learn from this horrific incident. Chandler was coddled and did not have consequences for his actions throughout his upbringing. He chose a sweet, slightly immature girl that he could manipulate. He had been doing that his whole life. These are critical red flags to look for.
@@VioletJoy Yeah but she's still insufferable.
She's honestly adorable. I feel so damn bad for her.
Sustained eye contact is suspicious, but looking away is suspicious. So basically if you’re in an interrogation room you’re suspicious.
@@alexspector286 Who told you?!
Id be screwed lol which is why I would lawyer up asap.
the guy kinda just makes up anything, his "psychoanalysis" is a bunch of malarkey
I think its more like overly sustained eye contact--like staring into someone's soul without looking away is suspicious, and never making eye contact is suspicious (like the extremes are suspicious)
@@ConniesReviews I think that he points out officer's techniques and when they use it well (like if/how they are following the reid technique), but he points out every possible detail of the suspect (instead of just the notable/important ones,) and he way over-does his analysis BUT it is correct
Honestly, hearing the analysis of Cat just firmly cements in my mind that I should NEVER talk to the police, she's entirely innocent and trying to give as much help as she can it still makes her look guilty or shady.
Like damn, I'd get my ass thrown in jail because I'm a socially awkward idiot apparently.
Yea, never speak to police alone under ANY circumstances (innocent or guilty) since the police can literally make anything sound suspect.
''Everything you say can and will be held against you'' - it seems like people just dont understand what this very obvious sentence means.
The only things you should ever say are "Am I free to go?", "Am I under arrest?", or "I'd like a lawyer". Police can and will use ANYTHING that you say against yourself, and they're even allowed to lie to you as a means of coaxing a confession out (which is why false confessions happen).
I still feel like she probably knew more than she said.. she knew about the broken glass and possible blood evidence.. i think the narrator is correct when he talked about how she is sort of attention seeking.. she says that she can't eat chocolate because she will become violently sick right before choosing the chocolate cookie 😂😂 plus she has pictures with timestamps when describing everything that happened around the time of the murd3rs.. she seems manipulative and her boyfriend seems like he is able to be manipulated.. he seems just very weak.. as if he ever tried to correct his girlfriend she would probably throw a fit..
she is guilty for sure
Man this girl found herself in a bad situation and she seems to be a genuinely good person.
dayum youre insane. you must be one of them serial killers admirer. the ones that sent letters to ted bundy and shit. DISGUSTING.
She is 100% genuine
Yea. But I keep asking myself why she chose chocolate chip cookie when a second before stated she is allergic to chocolate. I would keep her in custody for 48 hours just for that.
Shes nice because shes dumb. Dumb people tend to be nicer.
If she was a good person she would surround herself with good people
Yeah I obviously don’t know this girl, but I’ve had friends like her. One of their defense mechanisms is to revert to childlike behavior as though they’re imploring you to be gentle with them. It doesn’t always mean guilt. It’s sometimes just a signal that they’re in distress. This is obviously a really stressful situation.
yes, finally, someone can see it’s a trauma response.
She's still a kid
Bruh, this girl is just straight up immature. She isn't reverting. She is.
@@petmom He didn't attack you, he just has doubts about your possession of a psychology degree.
Read the top comment. They didn’t show the part where she eventually complies with the police
I don't think Cat felt like she was being interrogated. She most likely felt like she was going there to help the police find the parents. She also didn't know they were hurt or injured, so I see her behavior as appropriate.
Completely agreed.
Appropriate? She's not a 14 year old. Her cuddling a teddy bear, when she knows she's about to be questioned about her BF's missing parents? I hope you watched all the way through cuz she's still in love with the weirdo killer.
@@TheRyan88 Everyone featured in this kind of video is of extremely below-average intelligence. Can't really project your own behavior onto them.
@TheRyan88 firstly, she was what, 22 years old? Have you seen college kids these days? They literally wear stuffed animal back packs. Second, yes I watched it until the end, and the entire trial as a matter of fact. She testified against him. Her communicating with him in jail doesn't surprise me at all. A clear case of cognitive dissonance.
@@The_Remnant86i think she was 20 turning 21. she mentioned her birthday being august 21, born in the year 2000 and she said “the big one, i’m gonna get crunkkk”.
which means, her brain isn’t done developing. you’re right 100%
Cat seemed just very comfortable with police, maybe yes, immaturity but I think it just shows that she's not scared of them and doesn't have anything to hide
thats called 'innocence'
More like she's smooth talking psychopath...
She's like enjoying like being like the like center like of like attention like😂😂
That's interesting because to me it felt like all the silly remarks are her trying not to come off as nervous and scared. It doesn't feel genuine to me at all. The thing about the chocolate cookie proves that to me: she picked the wrong one and was too uncomfortable to stand up for herself. So she ate it very slowly and tried not to throw up. That tells me her needs are not her biggest priority.
@@psmith2714Like.
When cat said “they’re his parents , they’re important” was so sweet and genuine.
I honestly don't think she thought he was guilty. Sometimes it's hard to see the bad things in the people we care about the most. Much less the horrific things he did.
Yeah me too. I mean you also wouldnt think your boyfriend wouldnt tell you if he was going to murder somone ...you think at that age that your boyfriend tells you everything and shes obviously aware that hes weird. And is probably starting to wonder herself like shes starting to doubt. She seems fairly normal and silly and who among us have ever even known when our boyfriend were cheating on us. Let alone would most normal people ever suspect their partner of murder. But she does know hes weird... she definitely trying to defend him a bit. Im not finished the video yet. So hes still innocent untill this video ends !😂
I agree
Of course she didn't, but she continued to believe him even after he was in jail. Society could learn a lot from this case. She was likely pretty naive, and narcissists like Chandler prey on people like that.
I agree. If your partner was accused of murd3r what would be your immediate reaction? Anything below crying hysterically is suspicious.. i feel like she knew more.. and the reality is she probably had more of an influence on him than she did him.. i mean his dad was under his "mom's control" so I can see him being the same..
@@NsyShwl you might be the sórt of person to hysterically cry. Not everyone is a dráma queen.... and we have no evidence of his mom controlled her dad bar a psychopath saying so.
I feel bad for his older brother. I can't imagine what he's going through. I hope he's living as well as he can.
Oh he is, for sure.
@@mariemccann5895 yeah he’s got all the life insurance money now
@@2for99centsand no family. You value money more than life?
@@mariemccann5895you think money is more valuable than family? Yuck
chandler did none of that he lies tells tales is lazy and not clever at all he smashed many lives and will pay with his freedom no excuse he is a sad shadow of a human being
I’m convinced that he was trying to set Cat up for this murder. Hiding his weapons on her families farm, transporting their bloody clothes in bags that she had purchased, and using her cleaning supplies to clean up their blood that he ended up returning to her. what a POS. I hope Cat and Mitchel can find peace
@@HankPankyyou’re not very smart huh?
@@HankPanky why do you hate women so much? who hurt you? you seem like your mom didnt love you and now you just hate all women lmao
Wow!!! I bet you’re right… poor girl😢
You missed the part where he never tried to say it was probably her lol
Actually, that's quite a possibility.
I have ADHD and horrible anxiety, they would assume I’m suspicious no matter what. I fidget, get hot, pick at my skin, and have poor memory recall, digress, and ramble.
Right?! We’d both be locked up for life. Lmao
@@TitaniumTurbine ROOMIES!
Got room for a third?
@@blakeog2034 hell yeah, roomie! Welcome to the club 😅
same lol
I first saw Cat when she was in court giving her testimony at trial. At the trial, she was very serious, calm, and forthright in her testimony. To see her go from that very mature woman in the previous video to this young girl in this video is insane to me. It really shows you the amount of damage that Chandler caused within this girl where her youth and bubbliness were essentially destroyed. This girl's life will never be the same having known Chandler
I agree. Totally different from her interviews w police. This totally broke her spirit.
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well, she kept phoning him in jail, as if nothing changed, she is really weird
@ulynbotha4407 they kept talking to chandler in hopes that he would tell cat where the rest of his parents remains were. The cops only found his dad's torso and his mom's legs. Plus they didn't find the actual gun until a couple months before trail, it was in Cats mothers gfs barn.
@@ulynbotha4407OML. What is wrong with you people?! Abusive. RELATIONSHIP. Its harder to get out of a relationship when you’ve been in it for so long.
Even if i knew i was innocent, being interrogated like this, I'd be nervous as hell. I'd probably look guilty too. Being under this type of stress is horrible.
That's why you just ask for an attorney right from the start and don't say another word
@@KaileyB616just what i was about to say
@@KaileyB616 Yeah people think that, even after watching these videos, that if they request a lawyer the cops will think that they're guilty and charge them or treat them worse or something, but if you've watched enough of these you will see that the second they say 'no i want a lawyer' 99% of the time the cops will IMMEDIATELY just stand up and leave the room. The only time they don't is if they think the suspect is stupid or slow and they try the 'well are you sure cuz this is your last chance to talk to us' because saying that ONLY WORKS ON STUPID PEOPLE. Why would you need a last chance to talk to them, whether you had actually done it or not? To confess? 😂😂😂
Just stay silent, and/or keep requesting a lawyer. They can sit there and say whatever they want after that point in hopes that you get angry, or seemingly their favorite is to say something CLOSE to what they think you did, but make it sound worse, to get you to respond to correct them. IE if the crime is a straight murder of a woman who has bullet holes in her, the cops will be like "So you were alone in the room with her, did you stab her? shoot her? sexually assault her?" Even if they know she wasn't sexually assaulted, just shot, and then these dumbasses who didn't ask for a lawyer will get angry and be like "MAN I DIDNT SEXUALLY ASSAULT HER I DIDNT EVEN TOUCH HER" not realizing they just basically admitted they did shoot her though, for example. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP AFTER ASKING FOR A LAWYER.
There is literally no reason to ever talk to the police if they've sat you down for an official interrogation. No detective or investigator on the police force wants to waste their time just to sit you down "just to have a chat" or "to just clear up a few things" when said information is already confirmed and pointless. Ask if you're free to go, and if they say yes, leave. If they say no, or 'you're not under arrest at the moment' but don't say an explicit 'yes' and try to use super passive statements like 'well before we let you go, i need to clarify a couple things' or 'i'm not done with you yet' without arresting you and reading you your rights, then you are currently 'detained' and they want to get as much self incrimination out of you as possible before having to read you your rights, and therefore you need to (you guessed it) ask for a lawyer and shut the fuck up.
TL;DR lawyer up and shut up.
@@KaileyB616absolutely
forreal. I have a huge fear of people thinking I'm guilty of things I didn't do. probably bc my mom used to accuse me of stuff I never did growing up. I'm not scared of telling the truth, I am scared of not being believed.
Cat seems like a good person and I really can't blame her for going through that period of denial. A lot of people do the same thing when faced with such a shocking reality that's so hard to process. It's a very natural trauma response.
nah cat is a terrible person and she knew about the murders and played dumb to police. She still chose to be with Chandler after the truth came out.
@@nicholash1278 And how exactly do you know that?
@Nicholas H I actually paid very close attention from beginning to end, and no, that doesn't make sense at all.
@@dex1lsp I think she is just super stupid.
@@dex1lsp you didn't listen to her prison phone calls and texts with chandler? You didn't notice the part where she stayed in the same house with the dead parent's bodies and then the body of the dad is dumped on her mom's property? You didn't miss how she said Chandler was "almost about to be free" before his parents went missing?
I LOLed so loud at the “ one must wonder if Chandler has ever heard of a bandaid “ like what? 😂😂
Yea, he obviously know they are gonna see that there has been blood in various areas so he tried so overcompensate it with his own bloood, his fathers psoriasis and mothers nose bleeds^^
After all of these I've watched, I've come to one conclusion. There is nothing you can do in an interrogation room. That doesn't raise a red flag. Everything you do is suspicious.
I agree.
and that's why you call your lawyer asap
Agree, like man if id be there too, like its just my behavior ive been like this even in my room
This is why I sort of hate watch these videos, because everybody thinks they are some expert analyst that can 1:1 behavior to guilt/innocence, when in reality behavior is so nuanced and so subjective from person to person that very few things are actual red flags. The only true indicators are deviations from the baseline of the suspect, in my non-expert opinion. Even then, you might not know how someone would react to their parents being murdered vs. them murdering their parents, those reactions could be extremely similar or almost interchangeable.
You can't be uptight, but you also can't be immature and relaxed.
You can't avoid eye contact, but you can't have too much.
You can't not cry, but don't cry too much.
You can't be super uneasy or physically unwell, but you also can't be unaffected by the events that have happened.
You can't create distance and lean back, but you also can't lean in and be too engaged.
There are signs to be pointed out, and I'm sure a lot of it has to do with the context where behaviors are placed in, but a lot of these are also just differences in behaviors that don't really speak to anything at all, just reactions to stress or a puzzling situation.
For example, a girl takes a cookie after laying out her allergy preemptively, asks if it's chocolate, is told it isn't even though it is, trusts the guy, and suddenly she's attention-seeking for a miscommunication. What?
A bit like being in a psychiatrist's office: every movement you make and word you say is a symptom. If you don't move or speak, that's a serious symptom!
I saw a comment saying that people were upset with Chandler's girlfriend, and I am going to say right now that that anger is 100% unwarranted. She did what she had to do, she testified against him in court. How could she had known that her boyfriend is a psychotic murderer and a habitual liar? Like that is so out there, she loved Chandler and she loved his parents. She thought she was dating a great guy all around, someone who was incredibly intelligent and a kind hearted person, how could she have known that he was capable of such an evil.
stop telling people how to feel and stfu
Reddit moment
She was fighting any kind of those thoughts.
@@Laced.Up.Gaming stop telling people how to comment.
@@dingojonesI’ve seen plenty of comments, mostly in the replies
Amazing how she went from such a bubbly, happy woman to serious, sad, and borderline depressed when the police broke how he'd been arrested for his parent's murders.
Apparently, by the time she had to testify at trial, she looked and sounded like a completely different person. One single incident forced her to change her personality completely. That's heartbreaking.
well she was a "kid" too. 19 to 20 i dont care what people say those are very young ages...
change is necessary, normal, and expected. trying to stop it is a bad thing. all this climate change snake oil really fucked us all, the earth needs to change, stop trying to freeze things in time just cos you find it cute.
Imagine being in love with someone who seems to be very successful, only to find out his whole life is a lie and he killed and butchered his loving parents while you were hanging out with him. That is a world-shattering experience, she'll never be able to trust her own instincts not to mention the trauma.
If she kept her legs closed she would have never been in that situation. How are you going to be in a "relationship" when you're still living with mommy and daddy
It may well have helped her grow up. Blind trust is a short road to victimization.
The reason this is the best channel is because of its content it’s editing, and definitely most importantly, the captioning writing on the screen to read !!!!
When Cat said she always tries to see the good in things...I think that's why she couldn't accept the reality of what her boyfriend had done for a while. It's hard to get your mind around the fact that everything he had told her essentially was a lie. I liked Cat. She seemed to be genuine and guileless in her interviews. She didn't have anything to hide. I hope she goes on to a happy future.
I feel the same, she seems really sweet and I hope she’s doing better now
Delusional people often get hurt.
Don't think this event helps her mentally. People who force to think positively often end in very difficult situations.
She’s hot.
@@peagames2002 Not only that, she knew he was a cheater, and must have known he was lying to her frequently. Compulsive liars leave plenty of clues and signals behind for those who interact with them on a daily basis. She picked him, when he was the "bad boy" of their peer group, while he was dating another girl, stayed with him, and knew he was capable of terrible things, which is why she became so nervous when police suggested he might have something to do with the case. Willful blindness, like a mob wife. This is time for a massive reality check for her, for some introspection and ACTUAL self-development and self-improvement, some responsibility, and for better judge of character and decision making. Hoping she has a happy future isn't gonna make it happen.
Cat seems like a sweet, innocent soul. I felt bad for her, honestly.
Yeah and the Monster clearly has zero concern for taking some of that innocence away from her! She seems like an awesome chick, and her innocence and tendency to see the best in people is probably what made her seem like the perfect person to attach her self to for a monster like him
It's still a mystery why she kept communicating with him after what happened
@remnant4363 she loved him and she was naive and young. Perhaps she was still held out hope that it was all some terrible misunderstanding. I watched her testimony at the trial and she was waaaay different. The full scope of the evidence was laid before her and you could tell she was broken
Me too. That innocence is gone now. He killed it. She found out she was with an impostor.
@@cinebitsofficial she believed him!
Cat is such a breath of fresh air. Somehow so unapologetically herself, unfortunately in this context it comes off as strange but at the same time it's so pure and telling that she didn't change her personality during the interrogation.
I totally agree. She reminds me so much of people I’ve known in my life. I really hope she’s able to recover and bounce back from this.
I thought the same thing. Like I could be friends with this girl, she’s smart, silly, quirky and honest.
Defends and helps people who murder their parents. What a lovely lass
I agree kind an honest soul
Why do you folk think this is ok behavior. It isn't a "breath of fresh air". I'm not saying everyone has to grow up the same or anything I'm a 40+year old child lol but there is a time and place and sitting in a police station being questioned about missing people isn't the time or place. The fact she is this age and doesn't understand that is disturbing and worrying. I am all for people being themselves and not what society says they should be, but this woman isn't a child, her boyfriends parents are missing, this is serious shit and should be taken that way.
Humans are horrible creatures that never should have evolved. All we do is the same horrible things to each other over and over. When I was a kid, a school shooting, we couldn't even conceive it, and what by February or March of this year there had already been hundreds. We actively destroy the environment, forget that, planet that we live on. We can't go anywhere else, lmao, does that sound like an intelligent creature to you?
We deserve as a species, everything coming. I pray you and your families won't be here to see it, because you won't last. I used to think, not in my lifetime, I'll be dead and gone before it really hits the fan, but alas, the Gods do have a sense of humor. 😂😂😂
Dang.. I feel sorry for Cat for experiencing this. Looks like she's someone who can brighten anyone's day when she talks. Hope she's fine emotionally now.
Him asking if he was referred to as a “suspect” was incredibly revealing right away. Suspected of what? They were just trying to find two grown adults…
Oh!! Good catch!
I disagree, he’s in the back of a cop car and anybody (innocent or guilty) would immediately be suspicious of what’s going on or of how they will be of use to the police it would be extremely stressful for anyone
@@dami5154 I wouldn’t ever think I’d be considered a suspect of ANYTHING unless I did something. It’s the phenomenon of absolutes. Either you know nothing or you know what happened. He jumped to a conclusion because he was guilty. Can’t really argue your point with this footage but understood
@@dami5154 plus he wasn’t arrested. He was being escorted to the station for convenience. To make him less nervous
@@sonjonfill I mean i get it but it's not like police aren't a constant threat to people, innocent or not
I really like how you began this by describing Chandler; the hard working, overachieving 23yo live in college student with a bright future. Pursuing an IT degree, member of a police scuba diving team, employed at an insurance company with a job awaiting him at SpaceX! Add to that, he enjoys cooking. This is the young man whose parents were proud of him and whose fiancée, Cat, was in a trusting and loving relationship where they were looking forward to their future together.
Imagine how devastated she must have felt when she realised that their entire relationship was built on a foundation of lies and worse, that he killed his own parents when his manipulative BS started tumbling down around him. When I watch her in the interview, I see a normal and kind young woman who could never dream that her partner is capable of what was about to come to light. Just like Chandler’s parents had no idea. And his brother. All these innocent parties totally blindsided by a pathological liar, though Cat seemed to struggle to really accept what Chandler was capable of for a while.
If Chandler put one tenth of his effort into his degree as he did in pretending he was studying, he would have graduated. But he wanted life to be handed to him rather than being keen to get out there and grab his life by the horns. A nasty entitled man child, lazy and self centred. And a vile murderer who killed the parents who loved him rather than facing responsibility for his lies.
Damn, you need your own RUclips Crime channel 😂😂
said it in the best way
totally agree really trying to set the scene, especially with the violence that followed soon after Cats intro
Yeah, lol, you'd be good at copying vids.
he's a psychopath, his brain doesnt work right. basically his dopamine reward system is way too high and his cortisol too low. also he doesnt feel empathy. combine that and it means he doesnt feel negative emotions for doing bad things to people, only positive emotions for potential rewards.
First off, good for Cathryn for being so cooperative. Second off, why are 90% of these murderers idiots? The way he tried to hide evidence blows my mind.
what made me surprised was that he put some stuff in that old barrel/drum outside. how do you think this is a good idea lol.
It's because they don't watch enough true crime 😆
Because the good ones havent been caught
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The smart ones never get caught. That's why we always hear about the dumb people, cause they get caught with never ending evidence
Person: Breathes
**breathing can be a huge red flag as it’s a clear indicator that the suspect may be mocking the dead**
Love this comment 😂
lol 🤣
polygraph is similar. Better not be nervous... I tend to think of it as Clue(do). You need a lot of red flags before you can tell it was the butler, in the bathroom with an ice pick at 9 PM who did it. Connect the dots to see the picture is similar. Hell, even wheel of fortune. 'Right in the butt!'
As long as you don't take the chocolate chip cookie your not a suspect
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My son has high functioning autism and I have talked to him so many times about never talking to police in an interrogation room and always ask for a lawyer. People with Asperger’s do not communicate the same way and the police would automatically think his behavior is suspicious because he has difficulty holding eye contact and with social cues. Scares me half to death how some police detectives operate.
You are so right to do that
Yeah these videos and the training of the interrogations are not neurodivergent-friendly at all. That’s probably why so many mentally ill and disabled people are in prison.
I have autism and ADHD, I'm sure with my fidgeting, lack of eye contacts, and random tangents, they'd pin the crime on me even if they only brought me in as a witness 💀
@@gloriaf4015 yes. I have a daughter with Huntingtons disease and I was just discussing with someone how many times she was arrested (when she was still able to walk and talk) for no reason other than not being able to communicate properly, or have difficulty with her gait.
@@rubydown3329same💀😭
one thing i really appreciate about EWU’s videos is that even when they’re talking about a member of the party who is guilty, they explain how certain behaviours and reactions could be seen/interpreted coming from someone who is completely innocent
if you watch enough of their videos it'll become the most irritating thing about them. i heard those lines like a hundred times, i dont need it to be explained in every video. it would be at least 20 min shorter. :D
@@leventeszaffenauer4142 ive watched a good majority of their videos, i really don’t mind it
@@leventeszaffenauer4142 Exactly. "If you watch enough of their videos." How about people who are new to this channel and this is one of the first videos from them they see? I appreciate the explanations in every video they make. Also, the more you hear it, the bigger the chance of remembering it. Dont tell me you remembered all of those things the first time you heard it
@@terezanedelova6125 a lot of those things are commonly known and usually not even relevant when they are talking about a persons behaviour such as Cat's in this case. it really is annoying hearing the same things over and over again. I love this channel thats why im a regular viewer. And yes i said "if", i wasnt talking about new viewers and i get that it can be helpful for them. For me its just breaks the "flow" of the interrogations and thats what im here for. All this is just my personal opinion, you dont have to be so defensive. As i said i love this channel and its one of the two problems i have with their videos. That doesnt mean i dont appreciate their work.
@@leventeszaffenauer4142 it could be someones first time watching their videos
This just makes me feel bad for Cat. It's not stupid to trust your significant other, and the fact that he wound up being a psychopath who lied to her isn't her fault. The idea of your significant other killing his own parents is unimaginable, nobody in her position would've believed or wanted to believe that. Hope she's doing okay.
Absolutely, i would also, in her position, try to defend the person i love, bc i can't imagine them doing such things.
And i am also more gullible if my partner tells me something im not gonna lie, bc "why would they lie to me"
And I think that as his partner, she made an attempt to rationalize anything he did. My ex husband was stealing from my family, and I just could not believe that he would do something like that until I noticed the drug use. It’s hard to imagine someone you once loved is actually a terrible person doing terrible things. I do truly feel for her. I doubt she will ever be able to trust anyone ever again.
I 100% agree.
@@wickedashley Not to mention. She's a 17 year old girl in a "long" relationship. She was a high school girl involve with her high school sweetheart. Living what she thought was her dream.
She seemed incredibly naive and foolish to me. I mean, you kind of have to be to fall for this guy's BS. She even said that she and her friend (Chandler's ex) always hated him before she fell for him for some reason. Also, an old roommate of Candler's specifically called him a pathological liar. To those with even a bit of judgement, he was a known commodity. I still feel bad for her, of course, but I don't think she's some great person and just like anybody would've fallen for Chandler.
Doesn't matter if you are 100% innocent, never talk to the cops, always request a lawyer and invoke your right to silence.
As a person who typically doesn't like eye contact at all, it annoys me when y'all always point it out as a "guilty" behavior.
Don't let it bother you. Remember that all the behavior they point out makes for a POSSIBILITY of guilt. There are valid reasons for behavior that could be deemed as guilt showing.
👁️ 👄 👁️ why so guilty? Whatcha tryin’ to hide? Whatcha got behind your back there?
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Yeah I’m the same way. When I’m explaining things I get very in my headspace staring off into nothing. My eye contact is best when someone is speaking to me. And even then I typically default to a public speaking tactic of looking at the bridge of the nose. Feels/looks like eye contact to the other person but it’s a completely different focal point and therefore doesn’t feel like eye contact to me.
👁️ 👄 👁️ why so guilty? Whatcha tryin’ to hide? Whatcha got behind your back there?
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Yeah I’m the same way. When I’m explaining things I get very in my headspace staring off into nothing. My eye contact is best when someone is speaking to me. And even then I typically default to a public speaking tactic of looking at the bridge of the nose. Feels/looks like eye contact to the other person but it’s a completely different focal point and therefore doesn’t feel like eye contact to me.
Yeah, what I've learned from watching these videos is that anyone with social anxiety doesn't stand a chance. Pretty much all the symptoms are guilty behaviors.
Same bro
I think Cat is a perfect example of when these interrogation techniques arent effective. I think she just has a somewhat unique personality and she responds to stimulus in different ways than others so clearly the things you want to key on arent as relevant as they would be with others
i think cat knew everthing and helped .. u can see shes just doing a fantistic job compensating during the interviews
She doesn't have a unique personality, she acts like an immature teenager.
@@sabinekatsavrias4422 aw pooooh bear 😇
Or she did a great job hiding it
Cat is innocent and young. She had no idea what her boyfriend had done. I don’t think she realized the parents gone forever, just missing. He lied and cheated on her too.
I want to hear all of this from Cat’s perspective. She is very likable. Being young and naive is not a crime.
No, it isn't. But it can still get someone in a lot of trouble. >.< Glad she walked away from this situation and this monster.
Being extremely immature and not taking a murder situation seriously is considered likable? Young and naivety only goes so far - she's literally an adult.
@@ancient_vampire4790probably simping lol.
But it can make you the victim of crime. At 20, you should have a baseline knowledge of how the world works, including the basics of human psychology and how other people can hurt you. It's unfortunate that this girl had to learn in the most brutal and humiliating way possible.
In her case it 100% should be and she's far from likeable
I love how he's just playing Escape from Tarkov during all this.
She didn’t take the chocolate cookie, you can hear the detective tell her one has sprinkles, then she takes one and mistakenly thinks the detective gave her a chocolate one. You can see them have a very brief interaction over it. I don’t think Cat is narcissistic or attention-seeking, I think she’s just relaxed and genuinely doesn’t know how serious this situation is about to get, because Chandler duped her just as well as he did everyone else, she thought she was just coming in to give a statement. I don’t think there’s any reason to call her out for attention seeking behaviour, this chick has been through enough 😊
I noticed that too. She made sure she didn't take the one with the chocolate!
She did take the cc but she said if she eats a lot of chocolate. There’s never enough chocolate chips in a cookie 😊
@AlexAndra-iy5zu No SHE DIDN'T take the chocolate chip. Or if she did it was because the officer LIED and told her that WASN'T the chocolate one. Go watch again.
She picks out a cookie. The officer says that one is chocolate chip. Both her (and you & the maker of this video) assume he's talking about the one she just picked up. So she hesitates & asks "this one?". The officer corrects her & says no the other one. To which she responds with "I was going to say..." and raises her eyebrows. Meaning she was wondering why it would have chocolate too when she purposely picked the sprinkle one.
The reason I feel she's eating super slow is because she clearly has serious digestive issues, beyond her chocolate allergy, which she's commented on multiple times. And as someone with similar issues, sugar doesn't sit well on the stomach at all. Especially by itself. That combined with the fact she's probably a bit nervous to be interviewed by police (and she's already said she pukes when really nervous), she's probably being extra careful. But she also probably didn't want to seem rude by saying no to the cookie.
Or maybe it's as simple as her not liking the cookie. Maybe it's gross lol.
Either way the maker of this video should REALLY correct himself as that comment about her being attention seeking based his misinterpretation is really messed up.
She does seem to have attention seeking behaviour that's not such a horrible thing but I don't think she's a narcissist
@@TrinaWater Where specifically, do you see attention seeking behavior? Beyond that of the average person anyway (no one wants to be ignored after all).
This was horrific. I feel so bad for all the victims including Cat. It was clear from her interview W/ detectives how transparent she was being. It’s also hard to believe the person you love could do such horrific things. I’m sure he was a master manipulator, she was also a victim of his crimes.
my ex and his family was this way. master manipulators, abusive, toxic assholes. his whole family used me for cash, used me for rides, etc. his dad treated me like a child and tried to have sexual relations with me (he’s 63 and i’m almost 21) i’m diagnosed with PTSD and it’s because of what i dealt with. i feel for her entirely because i thought the man i loved would’ve protected me and not hurt me, my family, his family, use me, cheat on me, etc. i never really knew what was going on until i left and started self healing. i feel for cat, i really do. i hope she’s healing now, just like i am. just like others are🩷
Feel bad for awful parents? I dobnt
@@alicatz2002 Been in a very similar situation. Take care of yourself and surround yourself with people who care about your wellbeing ♡
@@MarcoGarcia-bj2kt ??????????????? The kid lied about every aspect of his life, to everyone in his life including his parents. He had a good life, essentially a free ride and because his mum was slightly overbearing they deserved to be shot in the head? Are you OK?
She looks like she would be a great root..
I always find very haunting the idea that Bart and his wife literally gave birth and granted life to their future murderer. Crazy to think that the baby you carried for 9 months inside you, took care of, loved, fed, etc... the baby that you delivered 23 years ago, ends up being your own killer.
Every human is capable of evil. Raising the kids with solid values, social and problem solving skills goes a long way to not being murdered by them.
@@dogelife7901 Sometimes you get psycopaths and no matter what education and values you try to put on them, they may end up killing you. We cannot control how a person turns out to be. No matter the education provided.
Happens all the time, sadly.
The reason I was terrified to have children.
Parents do the same to their children too. 😣
As someone whose dad did something despicable to end up in jail, I can't stress enough that it is... really hard to just turn off loving and caring about them. Even if they go to jail for something horrific. My dad is dead to me, but I still catch myself missing him. It's a weird kind of grief to lose someone that way, especially on top of losing two other people you care about. I feel for Cat.
It takes a while for something like that to sink in. To know that someone close to you could hurt other people close to you. It also doesn't excuse murder, but it does seem like Chandler was working hard to convince people that his parents were abusive. Chandler was clearly intent on himself being a victim, it would not surprise me if he managed to convince Dulce that they were abusive too.
They didn't touch on it here but, for the record, Mitchell did not corroborate that story of Chandler's. We all know how trustworthy he is.
It seems strange that this dude was 23 and he was still being grounded by his parents, that sounds insane. What was going on in that house.
@@kingcosworth2643 I'm 24 living at home and my parents still punish me. It's a control thing. As a kid I learned to follow everything they say and ask of me, it wasn't until college when I got away from the environment and saw what healthy parent child relationships are from my peers. I'm living at home again after 6 years because of a mental health crisis that ended up with me in the hospital. Couldn't work at the time because of it and had to rely on my parents financially. I'm afraid of being seen as parasitic while trying to heal trauma through intensive therapy over the last year. The biggest obstacle to my progress and moving out is my dad's obsession with total control over my mom and I . I backed into a mailbox and scratched one of their cars on the way to therapy and my dad took away my car privileges. That was 4 months ago. I cannot leave the house of my own volition even to doctor appointments or errands or anything. Yet they expect me to "grow up and become independent" while his hands are hypothetically around my neck. Luckily I've never been diagnosed with psychosis , just PTSD, anxiety and depression from a robbery I survived. The emotional abuse from my parents are holding me "prisoner" and therapy is keeping me afloat. Unlike Chandler I'm not capable of killing. If anything I'd do myself when I've had enough.
It's odd how similar our circumstances are, middle class family, older sibling moved out, struggling to finish college (I did it just took 2 extra years), parental pressure. Except I have empathy and am over emotional.
@@kingcosworth2643 This dude was what was wrong in that house. No one else, just him.
Fun Fact: My son is a Police officer also in Wisconsin. He was taught not to memorize the Miranda rights (even though it happens due to repetition) They are taught to read from the card because it has to be said properly (no mistakes or missed words)in order for it to be admissible in court.
Thanks momma!!
Yes, and because the defense always picks through the police work/documents to finds all their mess ups and mistakes so they can win the case, get it dismissed or get a mistrial, just depends on the case though.
That's what I thought, but EWU are also right that it helps trivialize the severity of what is being said.
@@Flotter-Flo Oh Yes! I'm sure there are multiple reasons. That one just stuck in my head. I originally "assumed" memorizing it, would have been a must.
That's so interesting! Just yesterday I watched 2 cops on the witness stand declare that they didn't have it memorized. I thought they were lying so Thank You for educating me! Have a lovely day!
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Cat’s interview is a perfect example of why innocent people don’t cooperate. Her phone, her car, her DNA, her time and her boyfriend… poof. Gone. All taken in a matter of hours. But at the end of the day, she’s very lucky to have survived a relationship with a dude like him. If he could do that to his own parents, it would’ve been nothing for him to hurt her.
Cat is also an example of why you need a lawyer when you talk to the police ESPECIALLY if you're innocent.
And her privacy
It was good that she cooperated. She was cleared wasn’t she? I do agree that she should have had a lawyer with her, but due to her innocence it would have been impossible to know that beforehand. She did good.
Don't forget her other belongings, they didn't even gave her closes or her employee ID card back even though they knew that they don't need that.
Furthermore they refused to state publicly that she ain't a suspect.
>this is why innocent people dont cooperate, because the police will take things that can be used to solve the crime, after which they will give them back
are you mentally challenged? police should not take evidence? do you care more about your phone and murderer boyfriend or do you care about upholding the truth and law?
My heart broke for that girl. People blaming her for being naive or inmature can seriously go to hell. No one with a good heart like her would suspect the person they love to be a murder in this situation. I hope she will recover from this at some point.
yall act like shes a child. shes playing the ted bundy card and coming off as charming and innocent and trying to make friends with the officers. shes just as guilty. its not naivety especially when shes playing kissy face with him over the phone after hes been arrested for killing his parents...
@@kaitlyna5931 you watched too much true crime.
@@bronzekoala9141 That's why she is right. For watching "too much" true crime she knows already how to spot "Ted Bundies". I agree with you kaitlyna.
@@sitcomsTV except the amount of "Ted Bundies" in the real world is much lower than watching too much true crime makes you think.
I think people see a different side of her when she is being all lovey dovey and sickening sweet to a guy who is in jail for murdering his parents. Most people would not want to even talk to him after that much less acting coy ....
I’m lactose intolerant and although I get extreme inflammation and sometimes violently ill, I will still eat thing with dairy in it. It doesn’t mean I’m seeking anyone’s attention. It means I’m making a decision to enjoy something that tastes good even though I have to suffer for it. You make too many assumptions in your videos.
Fr I’m sensitive to peanut butter and I get a rash when I eat it. I still eat Peanut Butter cups tho because I love them. Haha as long as it doesn’t kill me I’ll eat them a rash isn’t that bad and if I eat it slowly I usually don’t get one. Also the forbidden fruit is always the sweetest.
So you would drink a cup of milk in an interrogation room?
@@Eileen_Yulick Speaking as someone who is lactose intolerant if I wanted to clear an interrogation room I would 100% drink a cup of milk. It might take a bit but believe me nobody would want to be in that room afterwards.
@@AstralAnubes be careful with that rash dude! Allergic reactions like that can sometimes very dramatically worse and out of nowhere! But also, I don’t blame you. I don’t think I could give Reeces up either xD
Just be careful! Regular exposure to allergens can make the reactions much worse in the long term. It may not be a severe reaction now, but it could be down the line! 😰
I feel so badly for Cat. This had to have been incredibly stressful and traumatic. Her being "immature" and "child-like" is likely her response to this awful situation. Everyone reacts differently. She did the right thing by cooperating, being truthful, and coming forward later on with more incriminating information, like his location on the Snap Map. Finding out that your boyfriend is a psychotic killer would be a major shock. Wishing her healing and love. 💞
Then why did she still talk to him after the fact? She’s extremely stupid.
I don't think she realizes to this day that HER life was in danger that weekend. Imagine when she was over at his house, if she'd stumbled upon evidence of the murders. The parents weren't even reported missing at that point. He may have still believed he'd get away with the killings, and killed Cat to keep the secret.
@@MeganVictoriaKearns Oh, absolutely!
@@MeganVictoriaKearns our death dates are predestined by Allah so Cat would never have died that day. and these criminals who murder can only get away in this world
@@MeganVictoriaKearnsDid hei kill Cat?
Soft interrogation rooms are so strange. I was involved in something years ago, and got questioned in a soft room and it was the weirdest feeling. Felt like I was being interrogated in my grandmas house 😂
oh, is that what it is? i thought it was a "casting" room
I think thats the point of it. Make you feel as comfortable as possible to get as much info as they can.
@@MrPaxiodepends on the police department. 😂
Your comment came at the right time lighting up all the dark in video .
@@MrPaxio Casting of "Grandma's Backdoor"
I definitely feel for Cat. On top of the trauma of knowing her boyfriend killed his parents, her name is forever associated with the case
She was literally given all the evidencence that he committed the horrific crime and that he was lying for years prior, that his entire life was a lie, yet she decided to keep supporting her. There's something messed up, moronic, and disgusting about that woman and that's a fact. And people that are sympathising with her are some of the dumbest people around and maybe just as messed up as she is.
@@jovanleon7 but she’s hot so it cancels out right
@@zach3955 definitely hahaha
@@zach3955 yes... yes it does
@@jovanleon7 She's emotionally immature, and as stated was deep in his manipulation, but she's not DISGUSTING nor MORONIC, she was likely just deeply in denial. Near the end she comes to terms with whats actually happened and cuts him off.
you do a amazing job telling the story I am so addicted to your channel!!!!!!
at 1:06:10 she's hesitant because she quite literally has explicit pictures on her phone, she was about to say that earlier when the lady said they don't care about those, that's not a red flag, it's just caution cause she doesn't want others to see her pictures
Obviously, like, is it that difficult to understand? Girls her age having explicit photos that don't want people to see? That's the most normal thing
Man I'd bet the detective going through her phone was a happy dude that day...
@@Relayzy1 sick, man... she's barely an adult 😆
@@AstrosElectronicsLab But an adult regardless
Yeah, they left it out of this video for some reason, but she literally tells them she doesn't want people seeing pics of her b*hole
Chandler: did you just call me a suspect? 😟😰
Cat: Oh, we both really like Star Wars!!! 😊😄
LMAOOO
And the loser was cheating on this beautiful girl, just a POS.
Call me crazy, but I don't think he did it.
@@MrJamesRustleyou’re crazy then
@@MrJamesRustle crazy lol what part from the cabin being untouched to the random over explanations of his parents always bleeding around the house did u not get. thankfully these detectives aren’t airheads..
I feel horrible for Cat & her family being absolutely shredded online for a crime they had ZERO knowledge about or assistance in. Its gross how the world feels entitled to her reactions or her demonstration of anxiety or fear. 😮😮
Kitty 🐈⬛ Kat.
Wouldn't you feel absolute disgust for someone that buried their dad in your property and was dating your daughter??? Or is that just a normal things for Americans to go through? Just curious.
I mean she is a complete moron but she also didn't demonstrate any normal emotions after it was clear that he murdered his own parents. Not sure if she's just that dumb or if she has serious psychological issues to?
Cat and her mum are scum for still talking with this dirtbag while he was in jail...
@@ashleytaylor7621So, you believe in guilt by association? You people are fucked up.
I'm so sorry for cat, she seems like a genuine person who stays loyal until the end of time. I think people who are always loyal and a hundred percent commited to their partner, are way too rare in this world.
loyalty to murder is commendable ?!
@SamSamEym loyal to his innocence. I think she just had a hard time believing that he would do something
I feel so sorry for you...
@@SamSamEym I think the position she was in must be too complicated for you.
The dad wearing the dad joke shirt for some reason absolutely broke my heart. I never knew that part, and that makes it so much sadder. So unfair.
@kariboubleu3455 lmaoo...I know what they mean though
@@BlueDogEthereal i said it makes it sadder, not that it was the reason I was sad. Be stupid somewhere else. Actually be stupid nowhere and just be quiet.
They look like fun parents too. Plus they took him in when he needed a place to stay. I wanna bet his parents cared about him and tried to separate him from cat so he can get back on his feet without distractions. Him and cat prob didn't like it and got rid of the parents so they can be together forever. He probably thought he got away with it hence him barely hiding evidence like phone wrapped in foil and bodies near the barn.
@@PHEARVII separating your kid from their SO is going to give them less of a reason to get it together, not more. at least with the SO, they have something to live for. i completely disagree with them not allowing him to see his girlfriend at age 23.
@@barbrothers2 nobody even knows if the parents were trying to keep them apart to begin with. That could have just been another one of Chandler's lies.
Ok so i understand Kat still being by his side after his arrest. Shes young, wants to believe her bf isn't a murderer, probably doesn't want to face the grief of knowing that the past 2 years of her life have been a lie. But how could her mother, who literally watched Chandler come back from dumping the body, be ok with talking to him and allowing her daughter to continue contacting him??
Maybe she's fishing for further info?
Before his conviction.
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 hmm yea possibly. I hope that's the case and she isn't just a wack a doo
@@raisinbrancerealofficial It's also difficult to know exactly what info everyone had at the time of each call.
Made more complicated by the fact that we go into hearing the jail calls already knowing everything, knowing he's been convicted, and knowing what the cops had already found out.
No clue what they had actually told Cat and her mom though.
she might have been trying to get more info or stay on good terms with him in case he ended up getting out early and leaving with her daughter…or she’s just as crazy as him
The jailhouse calls suggest he was able to convince her that he had reason to kill them. This final attempt at manipulation didn’t end well because, as the video states, shortly after the jailhouse communications Cat realized he was lying and cut contact entirely.
I am literally addicted to these videos, better than any netflix show for sure.
Couldn't agree more! Much better than any true crime documentaries you see on TV too! 😊
Netflix could learn a thing or two
Literally same.
Hate people who use the term “addicted” for something that quite literally is not a fucking addiction. You guys need to do so much better because the shit is not cute by any stretch of the imagination. There are other words. Just say you love these videos and keep it pushing. It’s not a fucking “addiction”
There's crack, and there's this content.
Anything this good should be illegal!
One of my OCD things is the constant worry of being accused of a crime I didn't commit. I'm also super uncomfortable with eye contact so I barely look at people a lot of the time. So now I guess I have a worry about that too now lol.
Other OCD ones are being murdered and no one solving it, not leaving enough evidence of me being somewhere behind, leaving too much evidence of me being somewhere behind, getting blood places on accident and police thinking something bad happened to me there, writing something that would be misinterpreted by police if I went missing, ect.
Listening to him describe the cut on his foot almost seemed like him describing the murder. He would describe the amount of blood “coming from his foot” and how much blood there was with a look of absolute horror. I can’t imagine the images that were going through his mind as he pictured where the blood actually came from.
10 seconds after she walked into the interrogation room I knew the girl wasn't guilty. The confidence and lack of suspicion was off the limits.
you could honestly tell from the car interactions too
Chandler was clearly nervous about them searching his home while Cat was completely relaxed
Yeah, you're right, I don't think she had anything to do with it. and294othersthinksotoo;))
@@baronsaturday2103well, considering she wasn’t charged, Im pretty certain, more than “294 others” thought she had nothing to do with it.
I don't know what anyone's talking about. I liked her personality.
I see a lotta people who do not like her chatty personality like goddamn chill yall 😶. At the time of interview she didnt know that the grandparents were dead, only thought they were missing and that it was her boyfriend yet, she was like a ghost after they dumped the info on her.
I watched Cat speak during the case, I feel so horrible for her. The feeling of betrayal she must have felt is unimaginable. She loved Chandler's parents like her own.
@@littlebear1771 Nervous laugh? I sometimes laugh when I talk about things that have negatively impacted me or have a strange reaction to something overly brutal on TV. A dude getting randomly crushed by a tree could make me laugh from a show, but witnessing it in real life would fuck me up.
@@littlebear1771 you have to be a troll atp
@@littlebear1771 Aren't you doing the same thing. Projecting yourself on to her?
But she accepted what he did and didn't care and still supported him
@@DioOdinson As the video above states, she only talked to chandler for a short time afterwards before coming to terms with and accepting that he had really done this and cut contact with him entirely. She then testified against him in the trial.
I actually watched this trial. The mom was in a freezer that Chandler stated Cat shouldnt open while she stayed there over the weekend. I believe she even went and got something from the freezer he said she COULD use. The weapon used was an SKS rifle. Think Chinese AK47. The thing that fascinated me about this case was the amount of work he went through to SEEM like he was an upstanding person.... Half that work could have gotten him a decent job somewhere...
A few woman came out during the trial and stated that they were also dating chandler and had a relationship online. He even sent them photos of himself to these women in the same area where he left his mothers remains. Cat's family believed him on how "poorly" his family treated him which one of his many lies. All for him to try and blame them for the murders by leaving his dads remain on cats moms farm.
He seems to enjoy infantilize himself with the people in his life.
How do you know he lied? You didn't live there lmao
@@yokoma5480and you did? Tell us what the truth is then
where did you see women came out and said they were also dating him?
@@Malzy518777 Did you watch the whole video? It's in there. Evidence he dated other women and even did some things with men. Along with everything he said he was doing (school, work, house) all being made up.
@@yokoma5480 are you joking? You are talking about Chandler halderson case right??? He lied about EVERYTHING. he made up an entire fake life to his parents and people around him, saying he went to college and making fake transcripts, saying he worked at space x, he did whatever he needed to do in order to keep being taken care of at home with no real responsibilities.
Cat is clearly struggling to come to terms with the truth , it's a coping mechanism to just carry on as if things are normal. As she finally came to terms she clearly had worked through it. Hope she and her family along with Chandler's brother and his family can move on as best as possible
Copium
Can't even imagine
If I would be her I could never trust a man in my life ever again. I feel so sorry for her.
What mother would happily talk to a monster fully aware of how lucky they got. But seems they don’t see it as they got lucky on many levels. Listening to the mums convo at the end, gave me shivers for the wrong reasons. They sound too comfy, almost like ahhh we all could’ve gone down BUT, he’s took sole responsibility. Won’t be surprised if the daughter ends up with a cruel dark side.
We can also assume Chandler is incredibly manipulative considering his life was so thoroughly a lie that he had completely convinced her of
i hope Cat is aware of the love and support she's received from the public throughout this whole ordeal. she's super likeable and sweet and i feel awful for her that she had to go through this. i can't imagine what it's like to find out the person you loved is the complete opposite of who they say they are.
Well, would you keep telling that person you love them multiple times on text and phone that is clearly being recorded after finding out he dismembered his parents and scattered their body parts on her moms farm? LMAO.
@@wavyremixapparently the police were asking her to do it in an attempt to find the rest of his parents missing remains but then again she does come across as strange so who knows but tbh if you watch her court testimony seems like the whole thing really messed her up
Not one person can say how they would react if they found out someone they loved killed anyone, Unless you are put in that position. Logic says you wouldn't obviously, shock and trauma, you can't plan your reaction. Poor girl. Sick twisted man.
When the sky crashes what do you hold on to?
@@davemeads859seriously????? They asked her not to let on that she knew he was crazy and had killed them?????
great story! Cat is such a cute sweet thing- i hope she has learned her lesson and goes onto better things in life.
The insanity is off the scale. He really saw killing his parents as a better option than telling them he lied and was sorry.
Poor paranting
@@rawganic5183no wtf
That’s what happens when you are that kind of parent they would be disappointed in him if he lied. Remind you he’s an over achiever and parents couldn’t be more proud. That set him up to be ashamed to lie because he can’t handle the consequences of the disappointments he caused I honestly think this is a good kid who just finally snapped and the outcome was his parents being murdered
@@Tara-f2k exactly my point - poor paranting. It’s the way they parented that caused this. Note to self. Accept your child the way they are. Then they will grow up true to themselves and not resent you later for it
I lied to my parents for a few years about my status at my college. I wasn't expelled but I did poorly, struggling with depression and alcoholism from never before addressed childhood of abuse and domestic violence. It never occurred to me to kill my parents, God forbid, but I regretfully admit to having sometimes wished for my abusive parent to die in a plane crash or similar, in lieu of him finding out that I wasn't achieving like he expected me to and facing his punishment. Can't say I understand Chandler in his actions, but I understand his fear. Unfortunately his story ended in a tragedy for everyone involved.
I watched this case on several channels by now, but this is the fist one with so many actual footage beside interrogation. You always add something extra that makes it worth it and unique, even when you are familiar with the case. Great job!
The trial is on ytube if you want to look it up
I have also seen this case covered a few times but I have never seen cats interview or the jail texts/calls.
Yup, everyone else circulating the same Chandler footage 😩😩..
Sometimes I wonder why some channels are even monitized.
1 sentence commentary and then “copy and paste” the interrogation which we had already seen live from the trial months prior 🤨..
One guy even claimed he put the subtitles on Chandler interrogation and I called him out 😜
Same!
Boze vs the World has a couple videos on the case focusing on the trial if you’re interested. She talks about the case in a lot of detail as well.
I don't know how you could ever kill your parents but what really floors me is the amount of people that talk to the police in an interrogation room, and don't request a lawyer. Always get a lawyer people! Even if you're innocent ask for a lawyer before answering any questions, everyone makes mistakes, even cops, there are tons of people in jail for crimes they did not commit.
Especially if you're innocent- yes always ask for a lawyer and stop talking.
Nobody knew the gravity of the situation at the time of the interrogation. Especially Cat. They didn’t even fully comprehend it was an interrogation at all til they started hitting them with challenging questions. They thought they were just there to help the police with a missing persons investigation. Most people cooperate and don’t have any reason to be defensive at that point.
Tons of innocence in prison !!! I think that you exaggerate the facts . Cops are professionals.
@@chakenbacon cops are so manipulative
@@chakenbacon doesn't matter why you think you're there. Don't talk to them and get a lawyer period.
Guilty until proven otherwise. Damn.
I am a highly anxious person and i always fear that if i ever get stopped by the cops they're going to think I'm hiding something.
I already have trouble keeping eye contact with people.
Here it is. Was sad when it got taken down mid watch last night 😔 but yay now I get to watch it tonight. Thank you to everyone making this channel what it is!
bahahha me too! i got up to the bit where she was hugging winnie on the couch
been watching for over a year
i was furious 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I wondered why I couldn’t find it lol
I was super confused as to why it disappeared mid watch smh
I’ve heard of this moron before and in pretty good detail, but I’ve never seen or heard the POV and questioning of the girlfriend. It was extremely insightful and the fact that she did give the investigators seemingly all the information she had, like the location she saw him at. Awesome video, thanks for the hard work!!
And subtitles, it's so important for not native speakers or people who can't hear well ❤ Great job as always
yeah man, she gave up some pretty fantastic evidence against him! I think she's amazing, it would have been so hard to do that to your partner.. I hope she's doing alright 💜
@RobinCoffins yeah but remember she didn't even know what he did, so in her minds she basically was showing normal footage and daily routines.
@@michaelgarcia4782 I think Robin means that she has kind of personality that helped a lot because for example when I imagine myself there I can't see me taking my phone just like that and showing photos and talking talking talking with details, she's just crazy helpful, she remembers stuff and she knows time etc. It's interesting though, how would she behave if she knew what he did.
@@michaelgarcia4782 I actually was thinking more when she had gone back with the GPS info, she didn’t have to and that info gave them the location of his mother’s body. It took a lot for her to her thru this… it’s crazy to suddenly realize you’ve been in a serious relationship with a true psychopath.
Cat was smart to catch that tip that helped find his moms body! That gave them just the lead they needed for sure. That truly lets you know she was trying to help in any way she could and I can't imagine the mental turmoil this put her through.
The mother’s body wasn’t found, only her legs. Her remains have never been recovered.
its crazy to me that after that she was still somehow in denial and stayed with him for so long after that...thankfully she had a change of heart
Indeed with all of that calamity goin on before she even made it into the police station when it hit the fan for real. She dug out that seemingly non significant detail and figured that it was a major piece of info after all. Look at me using rare words jk lmao Much RESPECT to Cat! A dream partner IMO and he wasn't worth a min of her time. So sad but refreshing to know there still solid people out there.
@avalon7152 wow 47 subs without even having any videos LMAO bots are jealous of ya 4sure jk haha Good comments and/or good profile pic huh 😏👍🏻🍻
She's a creep. There is no doubt she had a part in their murders
This one really shows the difference of a person telling the truth and a person who isn't. This one is very clearly different than others who are obviously lying.
I've been waiting for you to cover this one! I live in the community of where this happened. Couldn't believe it happened. Chandler is a selfish man-child that deserves to rot for what he did to his parents over something so stupid. Sad.
Yeah no, his parent sucked ASS. Like I'm not saying they deserve to die but god these country bumpkins sound TERRIBLE.
He didn't do it.
@@DJKinneywhat makes you say that?
@@DJKinney come on 😂
@@AyaInspiredTarot I’m pretty sure even if someone convinces you to commit murder, it’s still your fault
Do innocent people like Cat in this video have a say in whether their interview footage might end up being shown publicly, such as in a video like this? I would absolutely hate to have thousands of people analysing my behaviours in the comments, my anxiety is already bad enough
It felt very uncomfortable seeing her revealed like this :(
Glad I wasn't the only one who felt a little uncomfortable seeing this go down. She didn't do anything wrong, and now commenters are calling her stupid and weird when she wasn't the one who lied x500 and murdered her parents 🙄
I believe that police have to make them publicly available to whoever requests them.
@@Kyra-qn3nh yeah if this happened to me I would have to make myself not read the comments, because if I read all these comments about myself I would feel awful and it would play on my mind, I HATE the idea of hundreds of thousands of people seeing footage of me in one of my lowest moments that I did not expect to become so public
@@arthurb6882 Uh yeah if I was ever being interrogated about a murder I can't conceive of any scenario where I would want to find videos of that interrogation online at all, let alone to read the comments on the footage of me being interrogated about a *murder*
Cat seems like genuine albeit weird person. Very happy-go-lucky, trusting, nothing about her screams guilt. It's no wonder she believed this proficient liar that murdered his parents.
His own PARENTS believed his BS for months and months and months and he lived with them. I truly believe she didn’t know.
@@cocktailonion696 reading the top comment about her makes it feel like she was more in denial then anything
@@SatanenPerkelethere’s something about her I find very oddly attractive
@@dennisshelby9268 you think you can manipulate her.
@@jourdansarpy4935 right
"As you can see, the suspect is blinking and is breathing. This can be seen as suspicious."
This is actually crazy that he made up his whole life and when the facade started falling apart, he straight up just killed his parents, who he was lying to. Ive actually heard multiple stories like this.
Not really crazy, as soon as they said his father set up that meeting. I realized (acc felt, can comprehend) how much that would mean his life was over to him. It’s not easy to sustain lies of that magnitude for over a year, even commit to the bit by physically harming himself to the point of nerve damage & have it all come crashing down. How much Cat believed him & could never see him doing those things is such a great indication of how much lying it took. His whole life (the fake life) he built was over, unraveling the school lie, was the first step in unraveling the rest of his web of lies. He would lose everything- his gf, financial support from his already v harsh parents, face in society (all the ppl he lied to & had rships with - romantic & otherwise even his absentee brother).
I can see how to him that was the v logical next step. He must have felt there was no other choice.
Edit: also the sheer amount of panic on finding out he was about to be found out plus there’s nothing narcissists hate than to lose face so
I too have lived a web of lies. Very stressful, do not recommend.
Although I will say, my "escapism" coping strategy (while not perfect) was a lot better than this guy's "murder" coping strategy
The way Cat speaks about the parents by referring to them as Mr. and Mrs. shows she had respect for the family.
nah she didnt. if she had, she wouldnt be still so close with her hubby the killer
@@user-wr4zp6cn5rchristian conservative isn't a "good community" quite the opposite actually
@@intermezzono1she didn’t knw he had killed them
I love the way you tease out what will come later in the video rather than telling all the circumstances in advance of the interrogation. It makes it more interesting for those not familiar with the case. I already was because I watched the entire trial but many have not! Kudos!
oh I agree. I had never heard of this case. So having it play out the way they did here was really riveting. I liked Cat right from the start and I was sooo hoping she had nothing to do with the murders. This was really well put together.
@@muppet-fan If you go watch the trial it is just heartbreaking to hear Cat on the witness stand testifying against Chandler. She sobbed through most of it. Very unlike the way she behaves here in the interrogation and in her communication with him while in jail. That behavior stopped pretty fast apparently as more and more evidence emerged and she turned against him and testified for the prosecution. I hope she got some good therapy. No one wants to have to say they have such poor judgment they were in love with a murderer/family annihilator.
@@kkheflin3 yeah, so I wouldn’t say she had poor judgement, Karen. She was lied to, and the lies were very believable as even his parents believed them. I’d say that you’re the one with the poor judgment based on how you judged this wholesome, innocent girl.
@@kalliemae1054 Obviously, I didn't express my sentiments correctly. I feel tremendous compassion for Cat. I said that it was heartbreaking to hear her on the stand. What I MEANT was I hope she gets a lot of therapy so she DOESN'T go through life thinking her judgement was poor. If she doesn't get therapy she likely will carry that with her. Many do. It's a constant theme among many who get duped by someone such as Chandler. They can't believe they didn't see the signs and they blame themselves for not knowing. Hope that clarifies I am NOT victim blaming.
@@kalliemae1054 Nothing she said was karen-like, she was sympathising with her, However you just wanna find an issue within anything, now thats Karen behaviour, maybe do some self reflection?
That look he gave at six minutes and ten seconds was definitely a big giveaway
I thought his head was gonna extend out of his torso like some kind of mutant tortoise.
I appreciate the fact that you point out that handing over DNA or digital data is putting yourself on the roulette wheel of future criminal investigation, no matter how uninvolved you may be to any of it in reality.
Minority report 😝... Social credit scores on the way , ...biometric scanning for banking, internet usage and generally any other function you need to get by in modern society. The last couple of years with that ridiculous psy-op that was run on the world is a clear sign of the direction these 'elite' want us to go , .. basically a beta test to see how well the western societies would submit to it. People are dumb as hell for going along with it. There's a reason why they're called sheep.
@@bobbyiello7066 do you believe in chem trails?
So some of the dna testing companies will attempt to match up suspect dna to their database (some will not cooperate). I have a relative who is a pedo. I made sure when I did my test for genealogy purposes to pick one of the companies that shares dna with police agencies. I can’t make him into a decent person but I can try to make sure if his dna winds up on a victim that it leads back to him. I still haven’t said anything to him about it and don’t know if I will. It’s my responsibility and my revenge.
@@patriciaabatemarco3834 what on earth are you talking about??
Responding to the be careful where you get your dna tested replies. Some of us are completely ok with familial dna being in a database.
if you rewatch the interaction of her at 12:47 the male interrogator explains that the one that was still in the box had chocolate not the one she chose. her reaction at the end is even more evidence that she did not purposefully choose a chocolate cookie.
Noticed that - cops are naturally slimey but this was another level.
Trauma bonds are real. Both trauma and denial may have been what kept Cat around for a while after he was arrested. I feel for her. I am not sure how I would cope knowing my boyfriend was capable of such horrendous things.
She cried for his parents, I'm sure she tried consoling him in the time she thought they were missing, imagine how she must have felt looking back! Completely manipulated and used, I feel terrible for her.
This whole story had me so fuked.. I hope Cat and her Family will be able to recover from this! 😢
She did good. I've been in an interview as a witness to something I didn't even know happened. I wasn't guilty of a thing, but an ex-friend, (not a boyfriend) of mine tried to rob a store and got back in the car with me like nothing happened. I calmly drive home knowing nothing then the cops came to my house because the store employee was running around looking for the robber. He looked right to my car and asked if I saw someone run from his store. I said no I didn't see anyone. I had no idea the guy with me had tried to rob him. But the employee took my tag number and gave it to the cops. I hadn't figured it out yet myself and the cops were accusing me of being a "getaway driver". I thought they were there to talk to me as a possible witness in the area until they openly accused me. Thank God, my so called friend just told the truth and didn't get me thrown in jail with him because I knew I was innocent and I did not lawyer up.
Nice "friends" you have tho
@@cheesy-p1j Is that supposed to be an insult?
@@AngelfromGenX no
The prosecution did an amazing job on his trial. And I’m glad that y’all mention Cat was cleared because at the beginning I was afraid she was going to be made out to be an accomplice and she truly was just another victim in this situation and she ended up testifying in his trial which had to have taken great strength. I hope she’s able to move on from this awful situation.
They refused to give her belongings back and they refused to state publicly that she never was a suspect till the end. So they harmed her that way.
Certainly corrupt and not "amazing".
I feel awful for his parents, but also for Cat. Realizing the person you love and have been in a relationship with for two years is a pyschopath? That's going to be really hard for her to come back from. Personally, I don't think I could ever trust someone again if they did that to me. I'm glad she eventually saw him for the monster he is.
Fr I know I would have trust issues like crazy after this
What are you talking about. She obviously helped him and as you can see in the video neither Cat nor her mother had any problems with the fact Chandler murdered his parents and tried to bury his dad and various things on the gfs mothers property.
@@sirweebs2914 did you pay any attention? He lied to them, he said he was gonna use the pool. He cheated on Cat multiple times, she cooperated with police because she truly believed he was innocent. She acted like someone who did nothing wrong because she did nothing wrong
@@mariacamilavega1720 no, you didnt pay any attention.
They didnt care what he did, she texted and Phone called about how they would marry after he comes out of prison, her mother even came up with excuses for him when they were talking on the Phone, he cheated on every girl he had, cat knew that and decided to be with him because quote "he liked Star Wars".
And she at least was an acomplice to murder as she was caught in her lie about the blood she has seen wich she then corrected into "oh, I didnt actually see THAT much" followed by "I didnt see any blood personally.
@@sirweebs2914 they didn't know. How are they supposed to know if he lies his way through life? He faked college, an injury, a SpaceX job. He kept making emails to convince his dad he was going to college. She BELIEVED him. Call it being delusional or naive, but she truly thought he was innocent. She gave everything she could, her phone, locations, pictures, DNA, because she honestly thought Chandler was innocent. And with the way she acts, if she had anything to do with it, she wouldn't be able to hide it anyways. If this is how she acts when she's innocent, imagine under the stress or the pressure to actually being an accessory to murder
constant eye contact is suspicious, periodical eye contact is suspicious. if you’re ever getting interrogated make sure you close your eyes the whole time.
LOL 🤣
Don't do that, closing your eyes is suspicious.
Can you imagine raising your child, not for 17 years until they graduate high school, but for 23 years, providing for them, only for them to turn around and butcher you like you were an animal? What a sick SOB
they didn't ask to be born though; it's not a gift
@@souchimisouni but its a biiiiiiit too much to kill the parents for this, don't you think?
@@karaosuno where did I say that it wasn't? i just want people to stop thinking that life is a gift for everyone, entitled parents annoy me.
@@souchimisouni”entitled parents” I don’t feel the parents felt entitled, but they certainly do not deserve to be killed by their kids 😞
@@wafo133 read. I didn't say that.
The hate for kat is unreal. When i was 19, i was told by multiple people that my boyfriend was abusive. I thought, "him? Yeah right. He's amazing, he treats me so well. These people are crazy." And a year later i was in the hospital with broken bones and a busted lip.
When you're young, you're naive. Life hasn't gotten "real" quite yet. And you think you know everything. Love can cloud your vision. I think she's just quirky and immature. I think he found her easy to manipulate.
Agreed 100%.
There are some seriously unhinged replies about Cat!
This isn't a movie or mystery novel where everyone is guilty.
@@littlebear1771 that pick me energy is willlld bro. 😆 who hurt you?
@Little Bear nah. My mom was dead way before she could give me any real life advice. 😆😆 but hey, hopefully you're healing whatever it is by coming onto true crime RUclips comments and letting it all out. 😆
Exactly. When you're young and naive, you don't go around thinking people are being dishonest with you. Especially your loved ones.
I haven't even gotten to all that yet. I hate her so far because of how annoying and stupid she is
"Chandler was a hard-working live-in college student"
SPOILER ALERT
He was not.
That sweet girl. I feel so bad for her. But at least she has some comedic relief. She needs a significant other who won’t manipulate her and use her.
Sad for the girl, she seems like such a good and fun person to be around. it's like she was still holding on onto the hope the last 2 years of her life were not a lie.
She's a big time creep. She's definitely in on the murders. No doubt
@@Kyle_RielYou know what’s creepy and weird bud? Flooding this thread with the same comment over and over to several different users. What exactly did this girl do to you to hurt you so bad bro? Lmfao
@@joeschmo2784 you know what's even sadder, weirdo? Noticing that I left 5 comments in a thread with 15,000 lol. You obsessed with me, dude?
But she's definitely a psychopath.
"Oooh a Poohbear"
You're a sucker
What’s her IG
@@joeschmo2784plsssss🤣
Cat is a perfect example of why you go in, sit down, let them read your right, request a lawyer. Every. Single. Time.
Or, if you're not being charged or detained, that you're leaving.
They still would have got everything via search warrants… this is a murder investigation.
Why? She would eventually have to give up all the stuff anyway. It would just take even longer due to her needing to wait for a lawyer then any processes they have to go through before actually attaining the info/warrants. She did nothing wrong and by doing what she did, she cleared her name as quickly as possible.
You’re too dumb for your own good lol
@simulationkoyochildish people can still know their rights 💀, you don’t have to have no hobbies, personality, or life in order to be a responsible person
Kinda weird counting he murdered them. Not her. In her head she’s helping them find 2 missing people.
I watched this entire trial second by second and I thought I knew everything there was to know, but I appreciated how there is new information in this video. You guys did a fine job breaking down this horrific case.
Cat is given a sweaty binder buccal swab.
The delivery was gold
Hopefully this doesn't get removed again by RUclips 😒
It's out of control lately.
I saw that too
Me too I was like 20 min in last time.
I didn’t get to finish the episode and went to watch the rest today … I was so confused about what happened to it. Then I saw it wasn’t on their channel anymore
I guess I'll download it then.
The clips comparing cat and chandler in the back of the cop cars was put together perfectly. The stark differences are hilarious, watching chandler squirm with fear and anxiety makes me smile. Not to mention cat talking about the most random stuff, her personality is so cute.
Simp. Any money, if a guy did this, you would say he’s “awkward” or “weird” for talking about these topics while in a cop car
Her personality is that of a 12 year old. It's not cute in the least.
@@wh3elson Found the incel
it's not cute, it's weird, for her age I mean.
@@user-fo1ow1jq3b whatever you say. Just trying to let others see a different perspective they might not see. Tell me you guys would still call a man “cute” and “quirky” if he said “is it true they make these leather bc it’s easier to clean piss, and shit” when he’s been bringing in for questioning about a murder or missing person.
As a true crime content devourer, I have already seen many things on this Chandler Handler case, so I was hesitant since I thought it might be a rehashing of the same stuff. However, I am super impressed at the fresh angle on a well-publicized case. This video added some fascinating nuances to the existing narrative and was well worth watching. Thanks Explore With Us for always raising the bar.
Wait...his name was Chandler Handler? No wonder he ended up 'tarded if his parents named him that.
@@Snarf_Le_Wombat His name is Chandler Halderson
@@JennyferPepinit's Chandler Handler to me now
1:07:18 "sweaty binder buccal swab" had me rolling 😂