Parents Lose It After Realizing Their Son is the Killer
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Gavon Ramsay.
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When I was 17, I was closing the fridge door slowly to see when the light would turn off. This guy at 17 💀
Right, out killing ppl. What is going on
I was on track at 17 to be this kid, it's the fact I had a mother who wasn't a pushover that set me straight. Enabling parents do huge amounts of harm.
@@superoffended6737Kudos yo your mother and to you, for listening to her and not becoming like the kid in this video.
@@superoffended6737did you just admit to almost becoming a murderer?💀 His mother obviously didn’t know anything especially with his shit acting
@@jul2447or…. Or… hear me out. He could be just talking about the thieving and breaking in cars.
Imagine being 98, you escaped death by accidents, illness, lived through world Wars, the great depression and more..so close to dying in your bed peacefully...only for a low life to do this to you. 🤦♀️
💔
Fr!
The lowest of life
Makes you want to tell your love ones you care about them! ALMOST!
She was 98 and living on her own too!! She must have been a firecracker to survive 98 years and still have the fortitude to live on her own.
They stopped a serial killer.
Exactly 💯
Unfortunately not forever if he gets out.
I agree. Hopefully they can study him and figure out the warning signs when another one starts.
For only 26 years.
They just slowed him down.
They caught a serial killer on his first kill.
That’s 100% right
To let this monster out after 25 years is unimaginable .
Maybe not his first.
@@Celisar1insane how small that punishment is. I'm sure his race had NOTHING to do with it
@@Celisar1With the depravity of this crime, and these details being brought up during a parole hearing. I highly doubt he will do only 25. Not life. But def like 40 years with good behavior. He should never get out i agree tho.
@@teejayman215you ever heard about the serial killer called The Grim Sleeper?
Once he said "its their fault for not locking the car" you know he's got no morals
Richard Ramirez made the same excuse, that people didn't lock their doors to keep him out. It's such weaksauce.
Yet his mother seems like a decent person. How can her kid turn out like that?
@@thatvalensteingirlYou're probably right but I don't remember him actually saying it made it their fault or absolved his guilt. I heard him say something like, "Know how you're told your whole life to lock your doors and windows at night? You should actually DO that. People will never know how many houses I simply passed over when the entrances were locked to simply find an easier, unlocked one nearby which there always is."
@AlphaGeekgirl ,I don't think it was his mom or dads doing that their kid is a killer, i think hes was just born with his brain wires crossed.
@@AlphaGeekgirl Because kids of his age think for themselves and sometimes do things they were never brought up to do.
This kid 100% would be a serial killer if he wasn't caught after the first one.
Problem is he still could be he possibly gets out in 2043 like wtf he needs to be there for LIFE
@@jennidv75that’s not long enough at all!
For sure. Look at the deviant he is at 17. Committing crimes like this. It would only have gotten more depraved and committed more often.
I agree 100%. He was definitely a major danger already. I'm glad he got caught first time doing it.
@@jennidv75that’s life here in Canada. You could kill 10 people and you will only get 25 years total.
God knows how many lives these detectives saved arresting him now.
Totally agree
i love the use of the phrase 'what happens in the dark comes out in the light'. That's a really great way of putting it.
Luke 12:2 ”For there is nothing covered that will not be revealed, nor hidden that will not be known. Therefore whatever you have spoken in the dark will be heard in the light, and what you have spoken in the ear in inner rooms will be proclaimed on the housetops.” That phrase comes from the good book! Jesus is KING! Pray to the Lord my brothers and sisters, ask Christ for forgiveness and to fill your heart with the holy spirit and the Lord will guide you out of strife, believe in the Lord Jesus, Amen.
Too bad moms clearly a piece of work herself. She barely reacts when they tell her what her son has done...
@@jenniferbaggett5775not to mention she told him not to cuss but didnt gaf that he was speaking shit about himself
@@jenniferbaggett5775
Yes, I noticed that. The father is crying and she is stone cold. I would’ve been vomiting everywhere. I’d venture to say she is part of the kids problem.
It's from the Bible! 😊
Luke 12:2-4 (KJV) For there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; neither hid, that shall not be known.
Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops.
And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do.
The female interrogator is not getting paid enough. She did an excellent job talking with everyone affected by this horrific crime, including the juvenile.
Not all of it, that early fuck up at the start could've ruined the whole interrogation.
Yeah she did an amazing job with him.
Holy shit! This case is disturbing and heartbreaking.
Watching his dad when they were told, stabbed my heart.
What is super disgusting and weird is the blackberry jelly, like whhhaaatttt?????
It's complete bs that he's gonna have a chance at being paroled!! I hope there are still people around to go to these parole meetings and remind them of allllll of the nastiness that is Gavon.
How much is she getting paid?
@@markgonzales1970 Not enough.
You have no idea how much she’s paid for her job. 😂
What the father says is so profound. " She was 98 years old and just living out her days .. and then there's😮😮😮 MY SON. You have all these fucked up people out here ... And it's my SON?!"
Broke my heart
yuh ok
It's sad. Good normal people don't want their own children to grow up to be murderers they want them to be decent. Some people just don't have it good in life.
@@laceylovley6535 You mean his 98yr old, helpless victim!
It was his mom may made him a psychopath. She was trying to throw him under the bus and she had no emotion what so ever.
he is the only one from that family that understand the crime, neither the son nor his mother grasped it.
"It doesn't change the fact that I've ruined my life"
...the only person that matters in his equation is him.
Sure, buddy. I bet you care about all the peope of the world. Such a big heartie you are, LOL. Xd clown comment
Thats aspd. Same disorder trump has. In courtroom statements they can only feel sorry for themselves. Incapable of the empathy that brings remorse
Ruined his life???is that suppose to be a joke??he took a ladys life....and he...raped her...wth???
Bet he has antisocial personality disorder
Like every narcissist ever. He's too young to have learned how to disguise that fact.
I feel so bad for his parents. Our daughter is broken & we went through pure hell to try to get her help & fix it. We had to step away from her. She accused everybody of always molesting her. Lies upon lies, she got an adrenaline rush, she said. It made her feel powerful. She stole, ran away, and sent child pornography & so much more. We have had the FBI in contact with us over her lawlessness. We spent thousands upon thousands upon thousands of dollars on counseling, psychiatrists, lawyers, etc. God please help these families that are suffering, because he is truly broken.
Never forget the exorcists. They act for free and master the topic at great length.
Wow 😢 I would never have a child
@@antigoneenvacances🙄🫢
@@sarahrean7174 My Dear, Jesus himself was an exorcist working to free people through the Lords Grace. Hence his name, the Saviour. Back then, they knew about infestation and possession. The young man's soul is hijacked.
@@antigoneenvacances JESUS is the Son of God ,and could deliver people because GOD was within Him. He had the POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT enabling Him to rebuke ,and cast out demons. The demons knew Jesus and were in great fear.
The 17yo willingly gave himself over to Demonic Control. We all have a FREE WILL, devils cannot do anything without a persons permission!
To be 98yrs old and still living by yourself, she must have been a tough lady. I'm sure she's very missed and I hope she's RIP.
Amd the fact she tried to fight back and left defensive marks on the suspect. That was one tough granny. I can see it in her picture. She's tough as nails. If she was any younger, that kid may not have stood a chance.
They don't make em like that anymore
@@Who_Dey420 Must have even been WW2 nurse?
The female detective who talked to everyone - she needs an award for this case... she handled everyone caringly
What baffles me is why on earth she didn't lock the door? It blows my mind that there are people out there that don't lock their doors when there's all sorts of crazy people out there every generation.
The way he said "It's their own fault for not locking the door" when talking about the cars, and knowing that Margaret left the door unlocked most of the time sent chills down my spine
I thought about that too!
Pretty common victim blaming mentality
He's so fng creepy and sick...
First thing he said of the second interview "I ruined MY life" very selfish
Sounds like dark triad reasoning. The onus for their antisocial behaviour isn't on them to control and refrain from, but on everyone else to protect themselves against it. They're just an agent of chaos, minus the personal agency.
It's so strange seeing a self-aware psychopath. It's like he *wants* to feel guilt, *knows* that it's not right that he doesn't...just...how alienating.
He may have also been Sociopath.
so many words to describe dude feels remorse 😂
I know right? He exhibited so many sociopathic behaviors, by definition. Like when he was concerned about his dad finding out what he did. That reminds me of a story about Clyde Barrows, of Bonnie and Clyde fame - he was a classic sociopath, and when he was caught, his big worry was that his dad would find out what he did. Anyway, this kid's inability to feel any sympathy, his constant whining about his situation, his manipulation of the conversation and people's feelings. Crying and rolling on the floor - what a showman. What a monster.
Considering the depravity of the crimes, how can he be released back into society after 25 years?? He'll only be 42 yrs or so old!
Exactly ..
It's just a possibility. Not a guarantee.
I don't understand this, the last video I watched a 18 year old who killed his girlfriend got like 50 years, and wasn't nearly as horrible as this situation
and perfectly capable of picking up where he left off, and plenty of time to go over ways to better cover his tracks. he’s eligible for parole is not a guarantee he will get it, but he’s white and they need the bed for another innocent police victim who just-walked.
seeing a recording of someone right before their death is a different type of eerie and horrifying heartbreak…
there’s even footage of him sexually assaulting her corpse. he is pure EVIL
It's a trophy
FR I have videos that look similar I took of my grandma just so I'd always have it and one makes me happy, the other fills me with dread and horror
Made me sick
yeah i could not watch that part had to skip thru it shit was hard to watch
When asked “if she was sat here, what would you say to Margaret?” I could just feel him thinking “should have locked your doors”. He’s not sorry for hurting her, he’s sorry for ruining his life.
"I wish you had locked your doors, I would have walked away because I'm too lazy to break in."
He's not even sorry for that, he's sorry he got caught
I agree he is just sorry he got caught. Why do they always want to write it down? Does it give them a thrill?
@@ccurrie9672 it does, they get to relive the experience while they're writing and know they'll be putting it into the mind of whoever reads it.. it's really a psychological power play, they control the narrative 100% .
Narcs get really angry when you don't "follow the script" they have built in their minds about the way an interaction should go, this is a way for them to make sure you have exactly the information they want you to have
His response was what he thought he should say, not what he was really thinking. Even after explaining everything he did, he still felt the need to lie about his thoughts.
55.48. The father was so distraught of how his son could do this. He had remorse. Most parents would protect their children no matter what. He's a good father
Demons protect demons
Not much to protect when u hear he had sex with a dead 98yr old absolute sicko
55:48 heres a better timestamp!
@@PC_Animations That is time stamp
@@pearlsr1880 Ik but you put 55.48 instead of 55:48 the one you put doesn’t jump to the time
He didn't deserve 25 years. He deserved more.
Life w/ no pArole .
Are people so du m to not understand he may not be released it's just there is a possibility after 25 years
@@kingvortex-m1n Thissssss!! Its not confirmed that he's getting out and i'm 99% sure their going to keep him in jail for the rest of his life sentence. Some people just can't comprehend basic shit smh
@@tanyastrout4243I believe it's been ruled unconstitutional to sentence a minor to life without any possibility of parole
He isnt a child ...hes a monster.....
"If the door was locked I would've walked away" is the most absurd attempt at victim-blaming I've ever heard
If the door was locked he would have broken in. He had it all planned to do this. Premeditated planned out with video taping everything to watch later and relive this!
@@SHY-po7xzfor sure
This is similar to a serial killer, I forget which, that said he would check doors and if it was unlocked he felt "invited" in to kill them
@@mattepperson6292 Oh geez. It's like you're already a serial killer, yet you somehow manage to make yourself look like an even worse person
@@mattepperson6292idk if there was a killer that actually did this, but ik it’s a popular quote/scene from The Strangers. In that movie though, it was simply because they were home.
"It's their fault for leaving it unlocked" That is sociopath logic
Timestamp?
@@OliveMule 10:22
U sociopath wtf seek help@@aliceDarts
Its also so creepy statement when Margaret usually left her door unlocked
That pissed me off. Because excuse me???
This is proof you can be a good parent, do everything you can, struggle, be level headed and your kids may still turn out horribly wrong. I don't blame the parents at all, they handled this very well and held their son accountable. The detectives were perfect too
He is born bad sadly his journal say it all
The mother never showed one ounce of emotion... zero. She was off.
@@222lanna: We really don't know. She could have been in shock.
@222lanna it appeared that way, but I think she was in shock. Just my opinion. 😊
@@marilynsmith365 through the whole entire video? Even when the dad started crying? Cold as ICE.
That female cop is worth her weight in gold. Very good at integration.
She's also very good at interrogation. 😅
There isn't that much gold in the world.
The guy interrogator did a good job mirroring but her questions were so much better and she really made him feel comfortable to tell her stuff
@david💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
Yea she big asl
Imagine living to the age of 98 and seeing everything and experiencing all that she did. Then to have your life snuffed out by some psychotic teenager. What an absolute travesty.
as sad as that is, it perfectly reflects the age that we currently live.
@@Grahernandez Yes ma'am, so true.
she looked it
As like the real travesty is he is speaking about karma
@@sheenal4868 Boy was all kinds of not right. Especially the thing with the grape Jelly. So sad.
She was born in 1920 and was a young lady in the 40s. She was 43 when Kennedy was shot she was 50 in 1970. She was 70 years old in 1990 and 80 years old in 2000. She lived through some of the toughest and most wonderful times. She was a living legend and living history. She was so important to our society as a living piece of history. She obviously took care of herself and she, at 98 years old was attacked by a monster and she STILL left battle wounds on the monster. She was certainly one heck of a human being and this piece of dirt doesn't even need mentioning.
@@desertweasel6965
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Maths is fun!
This right here!!! We let Margaret down, imagine spending an hour talking to this lady, we disregard them, think them old, what do they know? Society was at fault here too! All those neighbours?, nobody keeping an eye? Everyone minding their own business, what the hell have we become?😔
@@jwatty8429
Math not meth!
@@headron66 A bunch of virtue signallers and keyboard warriors trying to claim the moral high ground?
My grandma died a few days ago of old age. I would have NO MERCY on him! She was also 98 named Margaret
wow, your grandma must've been healthy to make it that long with no health issues!!! im so sorry for your loss, im sure she was an amazing woman
To be far your grandma was my school teacher and she was a evil racist
Interesting that as the son is saying that he's never made his parents proud and that he doesn't do anything good and the mom just says "Stop cussing"
I feel like she was out of touch with him from the beginning. There were other sons, so I wonder what their relationship is with their mother.
Not saying it's all her fault, but this kid with his early issues got lost in the shuffle, and it affected an already unstable boy. So very sad, for all of them.
Once, I was complaining about my brother, who was a terrible father and not paying child support. Yadda yadda, I was swearing, and my mum pulled me up for swearing, and I was like, your grown son won't support his children, and that's what bothers you, my swearing? 😂
@@drawntomountainsI feel like it is not the mom's fault. I am not so far removed from school, I remember kids like this. A lot of how a person turns out is how they are nurtured, but someone's base nature cannot be overlooked.
I remember a family from my HS with three boys. 2 of them were great kids and were kind and made friends easily. The third was truly toxic and horrible all the time. Said some of the most depraved, disgusting things I've ever heard, and he was *never* responsible for his own actions. Whined and cried like this creature whenever he was held accountable.
One particular time I remember him using "I'm only 16🥹" as an excuse when he was watching gore-p0rn (I don't even want to mention what it was) on a school computer lab that was also open to kids as young as 6th grade. He got off on other kids seeing it and being appalled. I get the same exact vibe from this little suburban edgelord.
Additionally, I've never seen any parents in these interviews react as strongly as these two did. I truly believed they tried.
The mum is the issue. Root cause of bad parenting. She has zero emotion and is emotionally abusive
When you got 6 misdemeanours, a felony, and cause your whole family to get booted out so cops can do a search warrant aka a fuckin raid you would disconnect my friend
25 years for burglary, kidnapping, aggravated murder and raping a corpse is fucking unbelievable
Yeah senate was out of their mind for passing that bill. Original judge sentenced him to die in prison. Doesn’t mean he gets out in 25 years he goes to a parole board so hopefully the parole board keeps him in there
oh so you think you're better than the judge and the judicial system?
@@Guywithcoolusername1625And what if they do?!
He got life with the possibility of parole after 25 years because he was a minor
@@Guywithcoolusername1625infinitely... the fact you don't says everything about your lack of morals.
When I was 17 I was thinking about homework, parties and summer jobs. This kid's brain is incomprehensible.
I was playing with play doh at that time 😂
@@MJ98.at 17???
I was playing Metal Gear Solid and Grand Theft Auto Da an Andres on the PlayStation 2.
I was in collage studying horticulture and biking 20 miles a day. Cant understand this lads deal.
@@Auto-respond-bot I'm 27 and STILL playing with Play-Doh. WITH my wife, shits a blast from start to finish.
TOTALLY MISDIAGNOSED!! Wonder if he hurt animals when he was younger. He may have hurt or killed someone else, just did not get caught. God bless this family and the victim's family. TERRIBLE for ALL.
Botched psychiatric diagnosis. He should never had been paired with a female Dr or councilor. You can see how his mother treats him. He learned to hate women in his own home. Where is his father?
How was he misdiagnosed?
@@carlmarcs3647they diagnosed him with depression and adhd when he’s clearly a psychopath 😭 the adhd could explain his need for “adrenaline” which could potentially explain why his consoler thought it was adhd if he explained this too her in a more watered down version than he did the defectives but thats it, everything else he said was a clear indicator this man was a psychopath
@@alexis-tw8nf i disagree i think he might b autistic and hes too emotional...also the mother has a t shirt that says autism
Highly unlikely
I have a 98-year-old neighbor and a 93-year-old grandmother. I watch over them like they are my children. If anybody comes for them, they will have to go through me. It breaks my heart what happened to this amazing woman. I hope that monster never has a peaceful moment in his life again.
Margaret, you are missed. Rest in peace.
This crime has scared me. I have a lil old lady that lives alone in my neighborhood. I am always on her about making sure her doors are locked. I have a zero tolerance for people who hurt children, old people and animals.
stay in touch with them, it’s seems the one through line with all these crimes is the only way they get solved is the friendly neighbor who always checks up on them.
My neighbor has dementia and his family have to lock him in at night which is dangerous but otherwise he would be wandering. He opened the window and was shouting that he was starving ..he wasn't he is well fed three times a day and he is out during the day sitting on his bench talking to neighbours. Unfortunately his family live a block over so we all keep an eye out for him. We all deserve a safe world where elderly people and kids can wander around and not be murdered though.
Same.
@@serendipidus8482 it sounds like it's time for him to go into care.
I have zero tolerance for people that have any tolerance for these kinds of people
It's refreshing to see level headed parents. The dad's first thought was of the poor old lady and her terrifying last moments. In many of these videos the parents refuse to believe their kid did anything wrong
The mother is weird to me. I understand those who say she's in shock but th fact that she answered for her child at the begining (both my parents would have pressure me in such a situation), her no reaction when detectives tells her the truth (that she seems to have anticipated from the begining) the fact that when her husband is tearing up describing what his son did she has no f ing reaction, this is so weird to me.
Maybe she is a very strong woman holding it up for her family, but that's something I don't understand
(Sry for mystakes, english is not my mother tongue)
@Benalla_1er yea I agree with you. As soon as the dude started crying afte the old lady was mentioned she was like oh fuck
@@Benalla_1erI don’t think you can judge on a person’s first reaction. A feeling of unreality can overcome people at times like this. Call it shock or whatever, but they’re disconnected from what’s happening while their brains are trying to process.
@@Benalla_1eri have th same thought. I just felt that, it was a weird emotion to me.
@@Benalla_1eryou must be blind and deaf because she had pretty verbal reactions bud, fucking internet weirdos always trying to be armchair psychologists
As absolutely awful as all of this is, I'd be really interested in the therapist/ evaluating psychologist's notes of this one. ADHD doesn't do this.
He shows, idk whether it's sociopathic or psychopathic tendencies, but he's pretty self-aware that the empathic part of his brain is non-functioning. The only one he mentions is his mom, because we're hardwired to love our caregivers, and even without empathy he's at least logically attached to her.
"It's their fault for not locking their cars" caught me immediately because it's a sociopathic line of logic. He didn't even try to hide that, probably doesn't even know that that's something most sociopaths would mask/rephrase.
Many people can live as sociopaths without violence, but being the partner, friend, or family member of one is very tricky. Raising one even more so. Because the empathic arguments we often use to teach morals to children (pathos) do not work on sociopathic individuals. It's simply irrelevant to them. All the teaching has to come from either logos or the social credibility + benefits side of of ethos. Which means you have to rephrase everything to reach them.
The dynamic is very clear right from the start. absolutely textbook. "It's their fault for not locking their cars" versus his mom's "but Gavon that's not right, you're scaring people, how would you feel" "but you lock yours". Ruthless logic, pure empathic argument, pure logic again. Mom can't figure out why the pathos isn't working, he's hearing completely in logos.
The only "argument" that would work on him, as he shows, is "When you do things that make other people feel frightened they call the cops". he can understand that here b/c it directly affects him. It's logical. Prison bad.
He might have had a shot if he'd been diagnosed young. There are resources for parents to navigate it.
Loved reading your comment and I feel it's perfectly head on
I was in a relationship with a diagnosed sociopath - young, naive and really had no comprehension of how it would impact my wellbeing years later. They too were aware of their change - they had once been super empathetic and emotional but prolonged abuse, it had caused their brain to shut down and shut off - they trained themselves to act and behave empathetic, to fulfil appropriate social cues, but I think back now and I can see where I was used, manoeuvred and manipulated for their gain - in the end when I was no longer needed, I was discarded completely.
i had a friend when i was younger who was diagnosed with sociopathy (anti-social personality disorder) around 8 years old, you are right he just navigated completely on logos. he didn't act out violently because "there's no benefit to that"
I also wondered if he'd been diagnosed younger would that woman be enjoying her 100th birthday with her family. The system fails all the time. No one chooses to be born a sociopath.
"I dont feel like i've ever made them proud. I don't do anything fucking good"
"stop cussing"
WHAT LMAO THATS ALL YOU HAD TO SAY TO THAT
These criminals are never sorry for their victims, only for themselves and for finally getting caught.
Theyre mentally very messed up. Id say they are born without functioning amygdalas that part of the brain for empathy. He was in councelling told his councellors this stuff and they should have svanned his brain to see if he was a psychopath and put him in a secure mental hospital to try to treat him and keep the world safe. Somone without empathy is a threat to everyone. If he had covid he would be locked up to save the granny but hes got a messed uo brain and nobody even does anything about it?
100%
He seems pretty tortured. It’s sad. Clearly his parents were trying to protect him from himself. Too bad for all of us that they were unsuccessful. As a parent I don’t know what I’d do with a child who just makes such poor decisions and knows it.
@sw6118 he ne didn't care until he got caught that's why he started crying the second time he got pulled in
@@crazychase98 I can’t speak as to what he cared about, other than to say that he clearly loved the adrenaline rush more. He clearly knew that he was stuck on what he calls the darkness. He knows that he is different from other people and he’s struggling not to be what he appears to be.
"I had all my porch lights on at night" hits different, knowing the killer is her son 🥲
I must have missed that. She knew he did all this? When that statement was made?
@@octogirl2046 she didn't know. she had the killer living in her home all along thinking the danger came from outside. that's why it hits differently when she found out.
@@dude8273
Thank you, little confused there:)
The mother kept saying "that was horrifying" a few times, not knowing the monster that did it was right beside her.
I think deep down she knew what was coming
All I have to say is, this monster should never see the light of day again!
Agree
That kid should never get out of prison.
He should never work at a Jelly factory
This is the type will say he didn't have legal representation and get the confession thrown out 🙄
Society is not really that inclined any more to pay for these kind of life-sentences.
Yeah… but since he was a minor he can get out. Hopefully… these issues get addressed while he’s incarcerated or he’ll be a real nightmare
@@MimiB1974 That's correct in terms of the law. But he deserves life without the possibility of parole.
For someone who “can’t express his emotions” he certainly cried a friggin river for himself!
It’s a little off topic but we really need to stop with the over use of the words “like” and “literally”. Half the time I lose concentration on what someone is saying because I can’t stop hearing those words. Even as he’s telling his story and crying during admitting, I couldn’t listen.
@@yourlifeisagreatstory oh wow! Like I could literally understand that! 🤡
@@yourlifeisagreatstory teens say "like" and "litterally" alot. Plus he was out on the spot so the words are kind of lost. Either way, this is terrible, rest in peace Margaret Douglas...😞
I thought that also! ("Can't express his emotions" is shrink talk -- wonder where he picked that up!) He probably had some counseling, as some of his sentences indicate.
@@yourlifeisagreatstory those are just filler words like "um" and "uh". They have been used as long as people have communicated. Some people use them more than others, and more often depending on the situation (being very stressed or confused). It's not going to ever stop, you might as well accept that.
why is he like “im so done with getting convicted of felonies” like ok then maybe don’t commit felonies???
Clearly the mom knew that murder was a real possibility with her child, which I'm sure explains aloofness. Her mind was prolly going a mile a minute.
Then she must’ve wanted him stopped because allowing someone you love to be interrogated without a lawyer (especially if you suspect guilt) is as good as handing them over
There are times as a parent when your child stops being your child and instead becomes a complete stranger. This is one of those times.
Age 15 for me. I mourned the loss of the child I knew and the one I no longer recognize.
And you may find yourself mourning this loss of your child you no longer recognize for decades. An unimaginable hurt.
@@maccthelab5165 Too many are quick to blame the parents but each child/person has free will to choose whom they will be. History and the Bible has recorded numerous excellent parents who had evil children.
@@beaglerescue5281 People blame the parents because many times it very much is their fault. Even if they refuse to see it.
@@CryosisOfficial And sometimes it isn’t.
It's always interesting to me when a parent thinks their child's friend is the one causing problems. Nope, it's YOUR kid that the other kid should stay away from.
Exactly
Maybe. ...or maybe it IS the other kid. ...or maybe it's BOTH kids. As an undiagnosed and over-drugged autistic kid, I had a lot of "behavioral issues" and got in a fair amount of big trouble as a preteen and early teenager. Sometimes I was the bad influence on my friend. Sometimes my friends were a bad influence on me. Sometimes my friends and I were getting in trouble together because we were all "bad". (which was the case most of the time)
Not all parents are in denial just because this one particular mom is. ...and when it does happen, it's really not that surprising. Accepting that your own child is a monster has to be one of the hardest psychological mountains to climb. Love and denial are *VERY* powerful emotions - especially when they're mixed with a traumatic event.
Lmao yea she didn’t want him hanging around braden, meanwhile the entire time her son was writing all these different scenarios in his journal of him murdering braden 😭😭😭
@@marquisperkins4578 the boomers failed us should have been tougher and harder
I was a nanny for a bit and the "bad" child is often the honest one and the "good" child is often a borderline sociopathic manipulator.
The interrogation officer was razor sharp, pushed all the right buttons, and softly spoken. Very effective.
How can you leave a 98 year old person alone in their home knowing they leave their door unlocked. People have no shame, take care of your elderly people. Hate this selfish society that thinks it’s ok to leave someone vulnerable all alone.
I can’t imagine being a parent and finding out your child did something like that.
I know. The heartbreak would be unbearable. I feel for his parents, you think you do everything right and then this happens... My God.
@@ape2183I mean he had a huge rap sheet already. She seemed so dismissive like “oh it’s just another one”. She’s such a massive failure she’s as creepy as he is.
I bet if parents had to serve the sentences along side their spawn they would pay better attention.
@@samkostos4520 No.
Exactly! That’s when I teared up. Watching his father absorb the fact that his son is…what he is.
Imagine, at 98 she was still able to live completely by herself. Very impressive. And then a teenage serial killer in the making does the most terrible things to her. The devil is truly walking among us.
Nope, no devil but the boy.. that boy doesn't get off that easy. Those were his actions.
Nah, not even Satan would do something this fucked up. You gotta remember he punishes bad people.
The boy did all this on his own, his own actions. So when he does die, if there is a heaven, hell or whatever, he will be suffering for what he's done.
DRUGS
Serial killer?
There is no devil grow up
英語を聞くのが苦手だから、日本の自動字幕でこれを見てるけどほんとに怖い…親は自分の息子がそんなことをしたって知ったらどんな気持ちなんだろうね……
By the way, giving someone antidepressants who has ideas like this is extremely dangerous. It's literally making it worse many times. It's really dangerous giving antidepressants like that. Just my own opinion.
No. You are right. I know someone the docs gave three different ones to in two weeks, they killed themselves, they had missed appointments with the doctors and they didn’t even follow up to see why. We’ve got to work harder at figuring this out.
@@lisaboo50 Yes. One reason this can happen is because these pills can numb your emotions and it is even more dangerous then if you have ideas before hand about doing something bad. But they can also make you feel too intensely in a negative way, so called melancholic depression where the emotional pain (depression) becomes too strong and unbearable. Combine that with other side effects like hostility and there's another reason why things may happen. It's dangerous in many ways.
@@lisaboo50 These pills can be like russian roulette. Many pills has been criticized, especially antidepressants and antipsychotics. But I never seen any type of pill having as many complains as antidepressants. Thee's a reason for it too. In my late childhood/early teens I was on an antidepressant that made my depression worse by so many times. it gave many side effects. The sadness was so intense, constany crying, wanting to die because of the emotional intensity, and besides that, I also got hostility, wanting to destroy the world. But I only harmed myself. I did it to try and ease the intense emotions I felt. It was most disgusting period of my life.During that moment I would, even though it sounds fucked up, have traded the feeling with being abused instead or burned in hellfire. I really would have taken any other option at that time than that pain. Most disgusting shit ever.
Antidepressants are a bad idea all the way around. Filling big pharma's purse is one of the main reasons they exist. Destabilizing society is another.
Only a jerk or a criminal would say his robbery of a vehicle is the vehicle owner's fault for not locking the car. That is a disturbing messed up way of thinking.
It's more than that. It's not just a "jerk" or "criminal." Anybody with that mentality is an actual sociopath
If Margaret had locked her house , she wudnt be dead rn smh , how come PPL dont lock their houses
@@DGen7 but he still killed her did he not a killer is a killer a robber is a robber ab a liar a liar
He blamed the lady he murdered for not locking her door. He has the darkness in him because he invited it in. He remains in the darkness because he enjoys doing evil perverse things.
i knew there was something wrong with him when he first said that. That's how a leftist thinks with their "peaceful protests" and anyone who defends them.
100000% kid is a complete psychopath. He would have turned into a serial killer had he not been caught. Absolute lunatic.
Yes he is a psychopath
A True Evil
Yes he is ! , which is why he is like he is
He could possibly have many years left to progress to that !
Good job repeating the top comment, smh. 🤦♂️
That female detective was the exact right person to interrogate this kid. She nailed the maternal angle.
Gavon did say that he had sexual contact when he was younger that was against his will.
Most serial killers are abused in some form when they're kids, which leads them to sociopathy and psycopathy.
Thank you, I noticed this too
@b.channa. Obviously doesn't excuse what he did but it is notable.
I was surprised that the investigators didn´t ask more on that one.
Or sometimes they are just born like that. Sociopaths are expert and chronic liars.... my thought when he said that was that it was another attempt to gain the detective's sympathy and excuse his own behavior.
This kid should never be released... ever.
Seems rough. He can find Jesus in prison and will be forgiven
@@bobby9192thats ridiculous so your saying anyone could go to jail for killing everyone and if they found religion they could be released back into the wild
@@brandonabel5662 thats literally what happens in parole hearings everyday
@bobby9192 it sure as hell shouldn't be happening.
@@bobby9192 8 major things parole boards consider and finding Jesus or religion is not one of them.
Man, imagine being worried about “stranger danger” when you’ve got this little psycho living right in your house…
Life is crazy.
Forget “stranger danger” time to get on that “familial fear”!
You say that as if she knew it was her kid. However the father's reaction was way more visceral.
@@Magnetar_Haunt I more so meant it’s crazy how sometimes you never really know people, even your own children. It’s terrifying. I wasn’t saying she was aware of what he was doing, that’s why it’s so crazy to me. Because you never know..
@@jennnna5150, I dont know how that person thought your comment sounded as if she knew it was her son, I knew what you meant and didnt get that feeling from the comment. Weird.
You attract, what you fear the most😂
He doesn’t deserve parole. Being capable of such abhorrent acts should mean you don’t count as a minor anymore.
I haven’t been fortunate enough to become a homeowner yet but I always told myself that if I have an elderly neighbor I’d make it a point to be their friend even just because I read about how lonely they get and it makes them depressed. My oldest son (I was 18 when I had him) had a few of our lonely elderly neighbors as extra grandparents and honestly the smile it would bring them when we’d check in on them is so heart warming. One lady would hold his hand and show him all of her different roses in her garden and he had his own little section of garden in a little old man’s garden. Seeing this I’m definitely doing it so I can make sure they’re safe from monsters as well. What a horrible experience this poor woman had to go through and she has already lived through so so much
this makes me not look forward to being elderely, everyone will see me as a charity case lol
That is so nice. I wish more people were as thoughtful and kind as you.
You kill someone and then realize you have to be home before your mom wakes up and you don't want to get in trouble. Madness.
Given he was breaking cerfew and wouldn't have wanted to risk waking his parents up do you think he jumped in the shower to frantically wash the jam off his dong or did he just go straight to bed?
He lied about his timeline anyway. He wad there for like two hours .
@@shroomologist This is the kind of thought a shroomologist would think of:) Have a nice day.
Really? This is typical behaviour of someone trying to cover their tracks. Makes 100% sense preventing his mom finding out he had snuck out was his priority, as that was the first person likely to tie him to the murder.
He wasn't worried about getting in trouble with his mom. He was worried about maintaining his alibi that he was at home and asleep during the murder.
The father’s reaction to finding out is a perfect example of what real emotion looks like in response to this type of situation. Even though the person who committed the horrible crime was his son, the first person he showed concern for was the woman.
I bet he concidered a really late abortion
I thought the killer was the victim's grandson. Somebody corrected me.
Yes, compared to his mum. I know she was in shock but she seemed more bothered that her son would go to prison for murder rather than brutally taking a person’s life like her husband’s reaction was.
@@yousladyskwisgar8977That was not her grandchild. They just lived in the same neighborhood.
Ok….AND?
No matter wtf he did or does THATS. HER. BABY. PERIOD.
You OBVIOUSLY dont even have kids to speak about how her emotions should or shouldn’t be shown…..
IDGAF what my daughter does ill NEVER disown her and i can guarantee id NEVVVER EVVER leave her side NO MATTER WHAAT …
Have children before u think u can pass judgment on HER emotions
No way should killers be eligible for release 😡
Seems to me that killing your abuser is completely different that killing anybody else for any reason. Call me crazy.
This affected the whole family dynamics!! 😢 I pray the brothers made it through this crap!
I keep reminding my 86-yr old mother to lock doors before going to bed. She said but our neighborhood is safe. I said there is no safe neighborhood. Thrill killers are out there looking for opportunities.
Murderers look for peaceful neighborhoods specifically sometimes
Even I keep my house locked at all times eventhough I live in the middle of nowhere surrounded by forests and an old graveyard on my backyard
My dad as well he been robbed a few times bc the neighbor knows he don’t lock doors his excuse we never had to lock doors which I remember the doors always being open when my grandparents was alive
@@hideriplays2626 I would especially lock our doors if we lived somewhere remote. At least in a city or town, the law of plenty [of houses] dilutes the chance that they may randomly pick your house, but in the middle of nowhere yours is the only one.
It’s crazy to me that people don’t keep their doors locked at all times. I’ve seen posts from others on Nextdoor about how some random person just walked into their home. No thanks. My doors stay locked regardless of the time of day.
That is one messed up kid. Knowing your child was a sociopath like this kid would be beyond heartbreaking. He’s a serial killer who just hadn’t made it to victim 2.
Oh then following your logic I am a murderer who just haven't made it to victim 1. And so you are... 🥴
@@Poutine-stratège-maladroit
You are following nobody's logic except your own......
@@Poutine-stratège-maladroit he ALREADY murdered someone and you DIDN'T, what logic is that
@@Wintersesr I think the logic is pretty obvious. In both cases we are accounting murders that never happened. That makes him a serial killer and that makes the rest of us murderers.
Anyway I understand what you meant. I agree he would have kill again.
@@davidrele I am not the one accounting people with murders they never commited... I just apply what she did to him to the rest of us. Oh suddenly it is not right? 😅 It's always the same hateful comments after those videos. What about learning decency from that great empathetic female cop in the video?
They can NEVER release this guy he is simply an incurable danger and must be locked up forever
The mom's reaction makes me think he gets it from that side of the family, don't misunderstand me
His dad's reaction cut me, 98 years old living out her days and his son did this. That would be soul destroying
They will never be the same. My deepest condolences to all.
Thats just it…. The father’s emotion. Have you seen his mother? She had ZERO emotion. That woman scares me.
@@Brando-wc8fz she's in shock.
@Brando-wc8fz she's in shock, she would have so many thoughts going on in her head for that poor old lady that family and knowing that her own child did it.
@Brando-wc8fz she was shocked and probably still hopping he didn't do it. Hope always dies last. Then she had 2 more kids to think of, she didn't want them to know yet. You can see when she called older son to go out so they don't have trauma from police going through the house. I mean even after vid I do not know what I would odbeside being numb from shock. Poor family from both sides and old woman....
I can't imagine how scared that poor woman must have been in her final moments of her life. She deserved to pass peacefully at the end of an impressively long life; instead she was robbed by a psychopath. I'm very close with my grandma and this situation just made me truly sad to watch
If your grandparents live alone or they don't live in a safe area then everyone should at least get them a ring doorbell or minimal security system. It's really not that expensive and it's worth doing especially if they leave their doors unlocked or something like that. Such a minimal deterant might have been enough to keep Gavon from breaking in her home that night if he knew there were cameras but we will sadly never know.
I would be outraged to watch this
@@アドルフヒトラ I'm lucky that she lives with 2 of my uncles and has several cops on her block :)
This young man is THE definition of a sociopath and he would not have stopped if he was not caught. My heart hurts for the victim's family/friends and even Gavon's parents.
People saying the mother had barely a reaction - that's shock for you. Sometimes when you go into shock, you look emotionless.
True. May not be the same situation but when my grandma died, my body didn't feel much for the first week or two before i actually brgan feeling sad. The bodz just doesn't know what to do
Yea that could be it. The sin always seemed to worry more about what his mom would say or think so I wonder about her responses
I have a hard time showing emotions so i understand the moms first reaction. I shut down bc i dnt know how to react.
Absolutely agree that mother was in terrible shock. Everyone must have been
I 100% agree. 15:09
16:59
That poor, poor woman. Imagine surviving nearly a century. Surviving the Great Depression, WWII, The Cold War....only to have your life snuffed out in the worst way. God bless her.
God Bless Her
Only to not lock your doors!
god clearly didn’t bless her, now did he.
*Sings the Great Circle of Life*
@kanwal6310 such a wee shame. Ik he said he wouldn't have went into the hpise if it wasn't locked. But I doubt that coming from him
Mum was totally overwhelmed. Couldn't process or even understand it. She was numb.
Been there.
He won’t need Grindr in jail.
To live almost a century only for a monster to take you out is heartbreaking.
And then for parents to realize what their child has done .. man. ☹
True - just heartbreaking from every angle, and for everyone 😢
really feel for the parents.
He's not a child..lll
@@blancabulgrin5560 He's still very much a child.
The age of adults needs to be raised bc certain parts of the brain aren't fully developed until mid 20s.
The part of the brain behind the forehead, called the prefrontal cortex, is one of the last parts to mature.
This area is responsible for skills like planning, prioritizing, and making good decisions; allows us to process the pros and cons of a decision before it is made.
My aunt was in her nineties when two men broke into her home and robbed her and tied her up and who knows what else. She died two weeks later.
Most people with ADHD and depression do not murder people.
As someone with ADHD and severe depression I can confirm this. We aren’t psychopaths. We barely have the energy to do basic tasks half the time
@@Otterpoptheotterand we certainly wouldn’t be organized or focused enough to get away with it😭
It's there for the mental health background, I have adhd and severe depression. Everyone knows that adhd and depression doesnt mean that we kill people, but sadly it does increase the chances
speak for yourself
ADHD has nothing to do with this, that's ridiculous
I can't understand why they always cry like a baby AFTER being found guilty of murder!
"it's really their fault for not locking their car"
Give the prosecution something to work with in regards to the murder
This was the right detective to interrogate him. A soft spoken mom vibe. She did a great job. Editing bc I just saw where the guy detective got in the floor with him. That was also a good move. A calm “I understand” vibe was the right way to approach him
Someone's done their homework
Levelling is was what we call it
Mimicking his posture to show sympathy. Which comforted the suspect. Which may have been a factor in his admission and details.
@Who_Dey420 it's even further than that, imo. He put himself at a lower, more vulnerable position than the suspect
Cus someone would never open himself if being cussed out and treathened. Also, creatures like him would like top noch experts to cooperate
He sobbed like a baby because he "ruined his life" and not the fact he tortured and murdered an innocent elderly woman. I will never understand how anyone can believe a criminal's crocodile tears. The only person a murderer cries for is himself.
@@bridgetonowhere I was listening while I was grocery shopping, and people must have been looking ay me funny bc my facial expressions were all over the place. I may have even been responding out loud 😂
My reaction at the very end when he basically asked “how long am I gonna be in jail?” ???? Omg the gasp that came out of my mouth 😱😠😤
He's a sociopath. They have no empathy or feelings for other people . They can cry because they got caught. Everything is all about them.
Yup
1st thing I said when he said that ish
Like I knew it
He only cares because he was caught
@@charlesovercash8862everyone says sociopath and psychopath like these people are choosing to be that. These people’s brains don’t work like ours bro.
Speaking for myself, I’m like, “Yeah, get it out of your system so they can take your punk ass to prison. You don’t want the homies to see you crying…but stay tuned. They are gonna LOVE you when they find out what you did. And they will find out…”
How did his parents not notice his sociopathic tendencies?
Clearly they knew something was wrong. He's a minor in therapy. That's something the parents had to set up.
A minor in adult counseling is something only a legal guardian or hospital can arrange. They wanted to help him. They knew something was wrong. But love can blind you as well. Don't forget that
She lived 98 years on this planet. She was independent and happy. 98 years! Then you boys come along.
These officers were some of the best Ive ever seen. The woman was so caring and non judgmental and the man got down on the floor to the kids level. They really did a great job of getting the perpetrator comfortable.
Gavon: I’m not gay. 😡
Detective: That’s okay. 🙂
Detective: Didn't ask, buddy 😊
I burst out laughing at this moment
@@merlinbotha363 lmao. Kevin Hart is like that, every interview he is in he exclaims that he's not gay lmao. He's probably got 4 men in his bed right now lol.
His buddy is definitely a fruit picker
Gavin and bradon are definitely gay together, that was my first thought, they were looking for a place to do gay things, trying to hide it from their family
I'm clearly no expert, but the mom's reaction seems cold and odd too. Wondering if she knew already or has some lack of empathy issues too.
I think she expected her son to one day commit a crime serious enough to end up behind bars for most of his life. I noted during the first interview she was sitting there relaxed because it was all routine to her. She had already been in that situation so many times already.
Additionally she may become cold to emotionally detach as a coping mechanism. In private she may have been in tears.
Taking risks for adrenaline is classic Sociopath.
My grandma is 95 and this makes me sick to even think about someone doing something like this to her
A word of advice from somebody who had a similar aged grandmother. Cherish the fact she's still with you. Call her tonight. It may not seem like much in the moment, but it'll mean the world to her, and to you down the line.
My great gramma is 94, and I can't imagine someone doing something so vile to her. If I was Gavon's sister or a female relative, would've needed a drink after finding out my own flesh and blood could do something so vile.
I loved my Grandma she helped raised me ❤ she passed away when I was in my early 20s
I just lost my Granny a few weeks ago. She had been slowly dying the previous month. I meant to call her several times, but I usually work nights so I’m asleep during the day. I could’ve made time but that time just flew by and by the time I finally picked up the phone she was already gone mentally and unable to talk. My sister passed away at 17yrs old and my stepdad passed away a few years ago. I always meant to call but my excuse was “things are busy.” DO NOT MAKR MY MISTAKE. Call your loved ones, hug them, say “I love you”… because you can never get that time back. That five minutes to take a break is far better than the time you’ll spend regretting not taking it.
@@yourlifeisagreatstory This happened to me, too. My grandmother was always very sickly. I came back home after a long trip as an exchange student in a different country, and meant to call her a billion times but never did. Not long after I arrived we got a call that she had a stroke and she passed away shortly after. I wish I had called her.
Think about it: It was 1938 when the victim was the age of her killer.
Yeah. She was watching Errol Flynn and gone with the wind in the theaters. What a shame!
😢
😢😢😢😢😢😢im so saddened for this lady....
Ww2 started the next year....
@@Rubylily2509 Imagine her family.
Sometimes being barren is better than giving brith to a demon!
It's not all the time that parents are at fault because of how their kids turn out. Some do raise them to the best of their ability but still have children who turn out like this or worse
me 17 looking for frogs in ponds with my mate, this guy 17 ☠️
As a mother of 3 sons I cannot imagine finding out your own child is capable of something so horrendous. Makes me sick to my stomach
Yo if her child is capable of it so is your sons.
@@weebsmcgee7012 Not necessarily at all, yo.
Yo 😆
not if her kids are normal
milf
So he was concerned that killing himself would break his mother's heart, but not murdering someone?!
That's all the lie. He doesn't care about his mom or anyone.
No logic. No common-sense.
I am disgusted and horrified beyond measure. 😢
The parents, I just cannot imagine. 💔
I hope they stay strong and be there for each-other.
Complete sociopathic-psychopath! Glad he got caught so young!
Keep your doors and windows locked 🔒!
What a horrific way to leave this world. That poor woman 😭!
She's lost her child either way
@@dsmusicbirdhe has common sense he just has no conscience and feels no empathy
@@KmvS86he dont have commom sense, someone with it dont comitê crimes, simple
I know people respond differently but I think the mom wasnt super shocked.
No she was. Her "unfazed" words and actions were her in cataclysmic shock. That's what happens to the human animal when receiving the worst knews of your live. You either have an extreme emotional burst, or shut down completely. But I do believe she had an inkling that something was horribly wrong with him, she just didn't know what
his fathers reaction was heartbreaking
"If the door would've been locked I would've just walked away" and that is the exact reasons why I keep my doors locked even during the daylight hours.
"if +would have been" ... wtf you smokin' bro ??
Oh, Star Wars video game playing doinks are usually the least educated.
I keep my doors locked during the day too
She got to 98 without locking her doors, must have seen some stuff in her lifetime and some wee git comes along and hurts the most vulnerable in our society. Imagine spending an hour in conversation with her? We have a responsibility! We let Margaret down too. 😞 RIP Margaret
people call me crazy for locking doors. if someone wants to break in they can make some noise and alert me so I can be ready.
The fact he was more worried about ruining his life than murdering a helpless elderly woman is so upsetting to me
That's the "feeling side" of the thing. But, it's not only upsetting. It is the epitomy of the behavior pattern going with such crimes.
Because he is a psychopathic narc
@@znmm2588 It is scary to know there people like that🙁
@@afishcalledwandaHe is a psychopath. He only care about himself and he will do it again if he is given the chance.
me me me me....
This is just heartbreaking all around. The boy is obviously suffering mentally. It's unfortunate that he couldn't get/find the help that he needed to prevent this tragedy.
Wellp.... I think blackberry jam is ruined for me.
Gavon said, I’m not lying anymore while lying the whole time. 🤦♂️
He probably meant to say "Im not not-lying anymore"
@@thomaskg3802 That would have been worse
yea thats a liars way of trying to just get someone to listen to their lies more or change it to sound more believable lmao