Before they even got 1 min into questioning her I knew she was tweaking I also knew she was gonna lie. She looks like she's been bumping illegal substances class a type for over a decade, people like that usually aren't honest even at times when they don't need to lie🤷🏼♀️
@atxgaming6998 oh she definitely had her OWN reality! She left and didn't get help. Oh she also had a gun and didn't use it even though she was so scared! She was enjoying the torture as much as her man. I've known people who were amazing people until they met meth. I think that's possibly the worst substance in altering a person 🤔
I actually used to live in Evansville and used to know her(married to a distant relative briefly) years and years ago. She has been on drugs and in and out of jail and prison for years. Meth addict and everything else. I had no idea she was involved in this case until I watched this.
WHY GO TO HELP CLEAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT?? FREE DRUGS?? Because the story doesn't make a whole lot of sense!! Like most Commenters see, She's tweaking terribly from excessive drug use So Cynthia must be an addict too. But she was brave enough to Run and get help after entering a scary bloody Crime Scene
@@jay78345I’m sure the trauma of this did nothing to help her get clean, even if she wanted to. Sitting on a body then thinking you are going to be next could drive many to self-medicate even if they never were on anything illegal to begin with. I hope better times for her in the future. When meth was first getting ‘popular,’ one of my friends mentioned this cool drug that, if she were ever to try something, she would do ‘it’ because her sister had been trying it and she’s gotten a lot of energy and lost weight. She said it was called “meth.” I asked, “is it legal?” Knowing that her sister wasn’t that concerned with living an honest life (dropped out of school in 8th grade to sit in front of the tv all day, while Mom worked. Shoplifted.) My friend said “no.” I didn’t ask any further as that was all i needed to hear to know I didn’t want to hear any more. That was in the late 80’s or early 90’s, before everyone knew about the horrible reality of meth. Why anyone wants to go down that road these days, I can only think it’s because they get into it before they learn the truth? Who would want to look like that? The meth look is so distinguishable
In my experience, maintaining composure is crucial. Those who allow irritation and anxiety to escalate rapidly are often unsuitable for certain roles. While anxiety can occasionally be beneficial, its necessity is rare. It is also important to distinguish between caution and anxiety. Once you learn to control your emotions, you become adept at managing challenging situations. Moreover, individuals who demonstrate composure under pressure should be appointed to handle high-stress incidents in leadership roles. When someone comments that a situation "escalated quickly," it often refers to a person who faced a traumatic event without letting it affect their performance.
In my experience, maintaining composure is crucial. Those who allow irritation and anxiety to escalate rapidly are often unsuitable for certain roles. While anxiety can occasionally be beneficial, its necessity is rare. It is also important to distinguish between caution and anxiety. Once you learn to control your emotions, you become adept at managing challenging situations. Moreover, individuals who demonstrate composure under pressure should be appointed to handle high-stress incidents in leadership roles. When someone comments that a situation "escalated quickly," it often refers to a person who faced a traumatic event without letting it affect their performance.
Bottom line don't pick up meth addicts living at the Econolodge and invite them to live in your house with you & your kids. Leave them where they're at.
YA FOR SURE. that guy must be a User himself or he was hoping he get sexual favors from her or something. that guy is suspicious AF. He should lose his kids just for the condition of that house and for his poor chose for roommates.
As a former meth and heroin addict, this triggered me. Meth addicts are absolutely insane. Staying awake for days on end makes you VERY crazy and scary. I have seen some really scary shit and have also had to escape a scary situation, similar to this but not as bad. Meth heads are TERRIFYING
I worked at a home for kids who were abused. One boy was 5 when he witnessed his dad shoot someone and drag the body out of his house. He had major issues. Many of these kids will never be right…
I think she could tell that he was not believing her, and her methed-out brain was trying to concoct 5 different excuses and directions at once, and what was falling out of her mouth were only bits and pieces of each one
Yeah, it’s one of those things that you see in movies but think it’s a little exaggerated. Then you see a real life victim go through it and it’s sort of a rude awakening.
yes and that the way that officer is acting whit her break my hart to.that what i wrote in another coment!he s clearly not calming that poor girl down the way he acted whit her!
My opinion with being a mother. Never , never have anyone you don't know live in your home when you have children living in that home with you. Children first always.
I'm always telling my step dad this, that men don't have that danger radar that women do, they take their eyes off their kids when they're out in public, or put them in risky situations, because they simply don't even think about the danger. No nurturing skills whatsoever.
I don't agree with your statement/opinion, I have two kids and till this day my wife is hypnotized by her phone, in my case I'm the dad and always awareof my surroundings at all time if I can think it is the next person can do, sadly I always think the worst first, example I get on a plane and I've already seen it go through every single bad situation possible, and then I have to board the plane and face all my fears, and pretty much that's how I live life, so saying men don't have awareness is mind-blowing @effaroundfindout
There is no situation where armored trucks and police are outside my house with a megaphone telling people to come out, and I’m leaving my kids alone inside.
@@MG-pj2oo-I am always afraid to watch if there’s a dog there Because if the dog is in a protective mode and gets aggressive, someone might just shoot the dog & that always scares me 😱
@@MG-pj2oo the cops call the ASPCA when there r dogs at a crime scene & no one else there to take them. they let Jason go, so he was able to go home w/ his kids. its the kids I worry about.
@@aanon5716same here. Doggos are awesome. But the kids definitely take precedent. People have such a big heart for dogs - but can’t even see the kids - and then wonder why so many kids grow into angry and sad adults… if we showed the same patience and affection towards children as we do to dogs, we would live in a different world.
Ya I think he said he met her in a bar and she was a st#$$r so he offered her a place to stay. With his two kids. His judgement is way off I hope cps has a good look at him and his two children perhaps there are better living conditions for them.
@yvonne8786 I know she was staying at an econo lodge where the ppl in her trade stay, where the other murderer stayed, Carey I didn't catch it. He's six feet under. She is living off tax payer money for the rest of her life. She set up a date with a couple at the home having sx with both, her bf returned and went crazy at her party players. How the heck the home owner Jason was oblivious to all this is incredulous.
@@shimmer8289 the homeowner said Carey was living in a safe house. I assume that's some type of rehab or halfway house. The homeowner also brought up pain meds in the interview. Out of the blue he said he was taking them for something. He's probably an addict too. Those poor kids.
@yvonne8786 I can't imagine him being allowed to walk away Scott free with those kids. It is to me, almost as bad as the junkies he invited into his home. Ugh
Literally every 2 minutes in one of these videos "But the truth is even/far/significantly more twisted/disturbing/horrifying than police/anyone could have imagined."
I’m all for building up suspense, but saying “it would be nothing compared to the horrors that would be revealed “ 100 times without saying what happened is just annoying
Agreed - in older videos it is the perfect amount but it is getting a little “click-baity” sounding. LOVE their thoroughness and I KNOW that I will be appalled regardless, I hope they cut out a few of those “nothing compared to…” lines.
1st time I stayed on a video about brutal crimes with narration but this was very well done, highly executed in every way. Speak, clarity, lining up the story to make sense and interesting without overdoing it for clicks or stretching out the narrative with ideas that takes u away from the initial story. This is like journalism
Like journalism, but it's not actually. The constant repeating how the cops didn't expect what comes next can be considered journalistic malpractice. Not their best work
Some people get used to or handle situations like that for whatever reason. Been in a few situations and I just sorta identified problems and fixed them as I could, keeps my mind busy I guess.
Honestly I think the timeline is just very confusing and we don't have all the information so it's really hard to judge what they could even have heard. It also happened over a much longer time period than you are probably thinking. Taking everything we learned from the video, We know Tim and Amanda got to the house around 3am. We know Cynthia was brought to the house at noon. We have no idea what time Jason went to work. They never said what time the police arrived, but we know Heidi had the gun since she picked Cynthia up and they said she had it for ~11 hours. So we can assume it was around 11pm when the cops arrived. All this informations gives us a time frame of ~20 hours for this entire scenario to unfold. Tim was killed before Cynthia got to the house so sometime between 3am and noon. If we assume Jason works a normal daytime job he probably would have left the house before 8 or 9 in the morning. That gives at least 3 hours for everything to happen where he wouldn't have even been there to hear anything. If it happened earlier in the night he would have been sleeping. We know Jason went out to eat with a date after he got off work so he probably wouldn't even have gotten home until later in the night. This leaves only a few hours where he could have heard anything and by the time he got home at night 99% of everything was over. Obviously we don't know what time he left or what time he got back, but it's easily believable he wasn't home or was sleeping when everything happened. Both Cynthia and Amanda said they never saw him. It would be easier to judge with more detail, but even making educated guesses I can see why he wouldn't have known what happened. Him and his two kids are the only ones who could have heard anything upstairs and we know very little about the kids or what they heard.
i'd wager, there was hella shouting and such regularly given the nature of those involved... i've lived around ex-cons and addicts enough to know, volatility is commonplace and nobody gives its a second thought, unless they can get something out of it.
@@paladro I Know When You Live With Crazy Drug Addicts, You Ignore Them When You Need Help Paying the Rent. It's Tragic But I Can See This Dude Warning His Kids To Stay In Their Rooms Until He Got Home. If There Was A Back Door (Cynthia Ran Out It) They May Have Never Seen The Junkies... This World Just Gets More F+++ed Every Day. I Was Actually Expecting This To Be An Old Story, And When They Said 2021 I Nearly Choked. I've Been Sober From Opiates For 3 Years, Lived Around Crackheads, Fiends, Dopeheads And People On Bath Salts, I've Seen Some Crazy Shite, But Never This Level Of Crazy... Maybe That's Meth For Ya. 🤷🏽♀️
can I just say, I went back and watched from your channels beginning and it's amazing how far you've come. this is actual content. above and beyond to get the footage and analysis, and not over dramatized like TV.
they do an excellent job with content collection and presentation (interrogation and police bodycam footage, interviews, 911 calls, photos, etc.) but the narration does lean on the side of over-dramatisation. It can get distracting at times.
And the amount of time it must take to organize each piece of footage to tell the perfect story to keep us engaged and making a sensible timeline of events. Like they could’ve just told us Carey died in the beginning with the footage, but felt it was best to tell us when Heidi found out (though we could already assume).
@@redrangerrr558 I understand where you're coming from, and I think you mean well, but I'm guessing you're not a parent. Parents need to be held to a higher standard. Children are more or less defenseless. Parents are pretty much their only defense, & the home should **absolutely** be a child's refuge. Every child needs and deserves that. The only person who should be allowed to stay in a child's home is someone who loves the child and will be a positive influence. Even if "Dad" didn't "know" they were tweakers, he knew they didn't love his kids & weren't going to be a positive influence... that much was obvious just from observing them. He claims that he wanted to "protect" Heidi, yet he didn't seem to think about protecting his kids. He DOES have culpability in what he brought into the home & subjected his kids to. I hope the kids heal from this experience and end up wiser than their father. I hope you consider the different perspective I provided.
@Bellakeilberg Because actively allowing someone to get hurt without even trying to get help is just as bad it's one of the same reasons I'll never sympathize with mothers who allow their partners to SA their kids just bc their scared of them they allow others to hurt someone just to keep the "peace"
@Bellakeilbergwhat did she do???!!!😮😮😮 she physically left the house…..ALONE. She picked up the last girl and brought her back to the house to be the next victim!!!! YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!!!!
Why would a parent, ANY PARENT, walk out of a house police had surrounded and not bring out their children? I don't care what was going on. NO LOVING PARENT would EVER, EVER do that!
He was probably torn on what to do considering there are dozens of officers with guns drawn outside... Think about it... One wrong move, and you're going to be shot. I've seen COUNTLESS videos where officers scream multiple commands, conflicting commands at once, and things go wrong, innocent people get killed... But, yeah, shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. He probably had no idea what was happening in the house, so thought the kids were safer inside, when really, they were safer going out with him. He could have yelled to police that he had children with him or something.
I would not want to walk out with my kids to armed officers, all of them yelling, the poor kids would be scared witless, one slight wrong move out of fear and those bullets would be flying as we saw, and that man hadn't got a gun. I would tell the kids to stay there and go out alone, informing the cops there were kids in there as he did. If he had walked out with his kids followed by the man with the bent pipe, they would more than likely all be dead, no loving parent would want that.
"I need to get help but I can't be the one to call the cops. So I'm gonna bring another vulnerable woman into the same house as my murderous rapist boyfriend." Yeah. Sound logic there, Heidi
You know what else is messed up… the killing, the s*x, the guy getting kicked in the balls and yelling the the dad upstairs didn’t hear none of this? Are you kidding me?
@@Adam-vs2in that’s exactly what I was saying all the screaming and yelling and they didn’t hear anything in those kids had to have came out their room to use the bathroom or get food or something
@@Adam-vs2in I think he said he was passed out after passing a stone. Maybe he took something. But I wills say that my husband came off a 24 hr paramedic shift and there was this girl screaming in another apartment. It sounded awful and he slept right through it.
The father acts like somebody got into a cat fight at his house. He’s not concerned one bit for the dead body, the traumatized women, or for his own children’s trauma witnessing all of this go down. Absolute insanity. If CPS wasn’t such a broken system those poor babies would be in a better home.
its really sad, i get a LOT was going on in this case, but the second he came out of the house and admitted to harboring dead bodies and tweakers in his home and came outside to talk to police leaving his children in the home with weapons and the dangerous tweakers, he should have been charged with child negligence and endangerment etc
There isn't a "better home" to give them to. "Wards of the state" I had a friend who was a ward of the state because his family had a meth kitchen in their house. He had said his grandmother and another relative had an in-law suite on his parents property where they made the meth lab. He didn't seem much better off. In his own words "at least his parents love him and feed him when he was hungry." He barely even had any clothes. But whenever we hung out he ate like he was starving. He ended up moving back in with his mom and dad and it helped him. Sometimes I pass his old group home and I wonder how the kids there are doing. If they feel like anyone loves them. The only solution to this problem that I have found is to take away the "right" to have children. It should be a privilege granted to those who can earn it.
That father knew his daughter said something about a GROWN MAN trying to follow her up to her room and the father didn't do one thing about it. That father enabled these crazy people to act even crazier by letting them stay at his house with his kids and also not paying any attention and or ignoring what was going on in his house.
@@traveltm poor daughter probably been abused and it looks like his son already raped someone , probably thinks its normal considering where his father let him live
One thing I've learned from this channel, soon as you start picking up weirdo vibes from somebody get TF away from them... Every one of these cases, people around the sickos always say "something seemed off about them"
If Heidi made it out of the house safely WHY WOULD AHEAD GO GET HER FRIEND and go back to the house??? Heidi is in on the whole thing… she was baiting the ppl to the house!!!
“Survivor Amanda Siebe wants the world to know the truth about convicted rapist and killer Heidi Carter. "She (Carter) needed to pay for her part in it because she was acting like she was a victim and Tim was the victim, (and) I was the victim but she wasn't in any shape way or form a victim," Siebe said.” From: Surviving victim of brutal attack tells her story exclusively to 44News - Brian Miller Feb 17, 2023
@@oDannyMitchello How does that date indicate they didn't do their research? They said the incident took place October 19th 2021. They said she was sentenced on March 16th 2023. The interview with 44news was from February 17 2023, after Heidi was convicted but before she was sentenced.
My heart always breaks for the animals that are trapped and forced to live in such deplorable conditions. No telling what abuse and horrors they endured while being in that house. With those people. And no telling what ever happened to them afterwards. 😩💔🥲
Some people have to make tough choices. Between two of your friends and two of your kids is a tough choice. Your kids may resent you but if he refused and they were under the influence they could get violent and then his kids are without a father. It's not so simple.
"One of them is lying, but which?!?" You know, the one that frantically sought out the police, initiating the entire police intervention? Or the one that lived in the house and was dating the alleged murderer?... Tough call
Something else that was striking is how their dogs defended the woman who was restrained in the bedroom.. Even though they didn't know her. Dogs are excellent animals.
He said that she was staying at "the motel that $ex offenders went to live at after they get released from prison," NOT that SHE was a $ex offender just released from prison. Speaking as a guy, I would want to do SOMETHING to help any woman get out of that situation. IF I already happened to have a room to rent, it's conceivable that I might offer it to her on the spot. After all, if you are renting space, then you have already decided to let someone you barely know move in. With that in mind, it's not a stretch.
@@darkwater72 so u invite her and her unknown habits to live with you with no extra screening with access to ur kids while ur off at work? And then your daughter confides in you that one of them attempted to follow her to her part of the house and you brush it off? Sounds like naivety to me.
I'm only like halfway in, where they discover the woman on the bed. Look at those two sweet dogs. They stayed with her and even now warn and protect and try to comfort her. Dogs are legitimately angels with paws.
You can even see the dogs in the scene frame used for the cover of the video. This was right as Amanda had just pushed the back english staffy off of her because it was trying to get under/behind Amanda because it wanted HER to take care of the situation. There was zero protection mode there. The tan dog is averting its gaze from the officers because it doesn't want confrontation. Again, zero protectiveness. These dogs barked to release nervous tension.
thank you so so much for the subtitles. as a non-native english speaker, i can't quite tell what people are saying in bodycam and interogation room footages. wouldn't be able to watch the documentary without subtitles. that, and i learned so much new vocabulary. i love this channel
Were are you from if you don’t me asking? I’d love to practice Spanish French Russian Japanese Arabic or Mandarin 🎉🎉 if you’re any of the following😂❤I need dinner suggestions on how to pick up a language more quicker
@@BunniiBlossomBleum damn i'm sorry, i'm from poland so i can't help u with those. but i am learning russian (currently A2 level), and i learned english pretty fast. the best advice i can give you is immersive learning. i learned pretty much all of the english words and grammar by myself, just diving into the internet and surrounding myself with media in english. it started during quarantine because i was bored, and i suddenly went from A2 to B2+/C1. songs, books, yt videos and movies in the language you wanna learn help so much. i remember reading the original harry potter book along with the polish translation and a dictionary 😅talking with natives is also a must. with russian, i'm doing a very similar thing (tho now i have an awesome teacher, who's russian and fluent in polish). i read russian children's books with google translator, or watch movies in russian trying to pick up certain words i already know so i can get accustomed with the language. i probably have it easier than most tho, cuz my first language is also slavic. i hope you'll find what works for u
No excuse for Heidi, she literally left the house she could have got help and tried to save that poor man’s life. Meth is a hell of a drug to amplify poor decision making.
People in abusive relationships do really weird things. Very often, they can feel that appeasement or cooperation is the only choice available. Even the victim said the guy was all about the mind games. Making the first woman watch him do something terrible (in this case, r@pe) is a common tactic. It reinforces the idea that the abuser can do whatever he wants. "See what I am doing? This could be you next time. It's not like anyone is going to stop me." At also permits the accusation that now she is an accomplice. Now she can tells anyone, because SHE will go to jail. Her presence can also be used to make her feel complicit in the act. Sort of like "See. I did this terrible thing right in front of you, and you didn't even try to stop me. You must be just like me, even if you don't know it yourself. Why else would you just sit there if you didn't WANT to watch me do this?" Another common fear is, what will happen to them if they try to get away, but fail? Also, it didn't sound like this assault/ murder thing had happened before. I don't think she had any idea that was coming.
Yes I believe truly she saved Amanda's life cuz they would have went on and killed her... poor Cynthia they locked her up anyway for trying to get help
She probably knows how to con people. Sob story. Times are tough, maybe needed help paying the rent? It appeared the house had separate dwellings. If I were one of the kids, I'd be more traumatized by police pointing assault rifles screaming at me to put my hands up....but that's just me.
@@MamaTriedSolo she does seem like a con artist supreme. "I was trying to save my own life and two other people" yet packs a gun all day and helps tape them up.
Exactly. If she is staying at The Econolodge, there are reasons she ended up there. Under no circumstances do you invite someone like this lady into your house when you have kids. Jason seems like a very low functioning individual. The kind of person who buys jelly donuts for dinner...
To be fair people who are a little more realistic decide not to have kids knowing the harm and chaos possible. Psychotic, selfish people often are happy to have kids for attention and to use their kids.
The fact that she left awhile then came back says it all. She could have went to the police while she was gone if she truly was “afraid for her life & the other women’s lives.”
Just because she didn't go to the police even though she left doesn't mean anything, she could've been scared what might happen if she does go to police. A lot of people go through this, they are scared to speak up since anything could happen or they could be made out to be a liar
She did a good thing But she also needs to be held fully accountable for her prior misdeeds. If her felony was an assault, do you think that victim would be happy if she got off lighter because she then went and did something right?
@@UnscrupulousAgitator Yes, I Would Feel Better Having Survived Because A Human Put Their Freedom On The Line For MY Life. Even If She Had Taken A Life, She Deserves Redemption. And You Should Hope For Some Too.
@@destineeconsuelo728anyway, sorry, I get so irate when kids are involved, I know a lot of people who had ghetto ass parents and it’s just disgusting, because as I said, it’s pretty easy to not have kids… just don’t have raw sex, and if you do, use plan B, and if you don’t, get an abortion, and if that’s too late, there’s adoption… so yeah. But I realized it might sound rude to ask you if it’s ghetto bc like I’m not calling you ghetto like that, just asking if the neighborhood was like that type of place
Cynthia's testimony almost made me cry because she wanted to help a friend and ended up with trauma she will never recover from fully most likely. Hopefully she finds peace and a way to live the best life she can after everything she went through 💚
@@Virazpodobajka addiction is Horrible for the person, their family, and their life choices. I'm pretty positive that Lots of us/people have lived through Horrific circumstances and chose to be Better than where we came from....we all have the opportunity to Fight (inner-personally) for a better life and to Be better people. Current society and Government are rewarding Dependency/lack of initiative and Independence, and lack of self control. People have no personal pride, self respect, nor respect for others, or other's belongings. The government owns them now- both in and out of jail. They're doing what the current government wants- producing illegitimate fatherless kids dependent on the government, crimes where they're locked up by the government. Live in homes paid for by the government, as well as their food paid for by the government... Except the Government Isn't Paying For Any Of It... it's us taxpayers paying for the government plan.
She said she wanted to call the cops but didn't want to be the one to call the cops.. so maybe she was just took messed up to tell her what was going on ..hence her saying that she hinted to Cynthia that she needs help& blood on her boots ..I mean I just don't understand why she would leave and go get another victim when she already had 2 at the house.this could also maybe be like wat the cop was saying . this was Heidi's way of getting her bf killed ..knowing he'd do something really sick ..or just to start chaos since they were broken up. I don't know just thinking of wat the insite is..but there's no explanation when it comes to meth
Imagine sitting on a dead body, being intimidated and threatened.. make an escape and find safety ..just to go to jail for another charge… I get it but my god…. I feel for her. Also with kids in the house?? Sickening. I hope everyone can heal from this in a safe way
@dbells626 don't commit felonies and you won't have to worry about that problem, and yes this is coming from a guy with 9 felonies on his record so I most certainly can speak on it. All drug addicts doing drugs and one had a conscious but was on the run from a felony warrant yes she did the rite thing but was also actively doing the wrong thing. It's been 8yrs since I got out that street life and there isn't a single person I know now that would dare put me in that situation addicts do not respect addicts. The situation is a million times worse then anything I've ever been into so no telling how bad her warrant really was. Heart goes out to all not involved but she had a motive for going over and cleaning them Bible study wasn't first on that list.
@@dbells626 I would say it depends on what the warrant is for. If it was like possession charges with no intent to sell then sure let them off but if it was something like a warrant for abuse of a minor or something like that then it is what it is unfortunately.
They needed to take care of this ladies mental health and give her breaks during interviewing. It can leave you with ptsd obviously but when pressured to go over things like this and then when the lady gets left alone after the interview it really can impact you. Bless her I hope she’s ok
@@phoebeel *Saying someone is "the worst" is what is known as "obstructive or DEstructive criticism". Apart from being mean and unhelpful, this is also a red flag for deception. If readers didn't already have reason enough to distrust phoebeel's sincerity, or ability to be forthcoming, they certainly do now. Anyone following this channel already knows this is a lie, though they are not ready to reveal the evidence just yet. What they could NOT know at the time, however, but are soon about to find out, is something...FAR more sinister than they ever could have imagined.*
Christ, these cops have no idea how to handle a victim in trauma. Shouting at her to calm down is NOT going to calm her down and then she's asking to get out of there and he's telling her she's fine. Dude!! She is NOT fine, she is in full trauma flight mode and needs to get as far away from this place and her abuser as possible. The implication that she's hysterical (without reason) is appalling. She IS hysterical but for a very good reason.
Is it you people never encounter evil or something? Woefully ignorant on what it takes to survive encounters with the crazy degenerates we all pretend dont exist. The most common tactic predators use to avoid consequences is to masquerade as some type of victim or incontinent person. Notice this lady who is clearly in on the entire operation didnt hesitate to turn over her partner and make it seem as if she was a victim to? Its the goto. They are always crazy and always have heartouching stories of victimization or some other bs. Why? They make lack all the same emotions that most people have for whatever reason but they know we have them. Why wouldn't they use them? So as someone who has the job of being in the cross hairs on a daily bases does it not make sense they dont start treating anyone as a victim until the victims are actually found? Notice the children were handled immediately with care and compassion, because the chances that one of them are responsible for any gnarly situations or will attempt to manipulate actual victims into silence is extremely low.
I love this channel and I love the narrator's voice but the script is unbearable. 😭 Please, we don't need to be told every two seconds that what's about to happen is shocking/horrifying/twisted/evil/disturbing. It's a true crime video. That's a given.
@@Rachel-ft2bino. She wouldn’t have witnessed that crime scene if she hadn’t continued to hang with people that were likely to pull her back into another arrest.
Its stunning to think that sometimes your own life can be stressful, but then you see videos like this and realise that there are just a wild spectrum of lifestyles that are outside anything you can ever imagine. How crazy some people can be.
Scary thing is, I’ve rented from people similar to those in this story. You really can’t tell what you are getting into until you are moved in and things get weird. Roommate writhing on the floor asking you to call ambulance. No, not a health problem, a drug problem. It never got as bad as this story but the potential was there. Some human lifestyles are disgusting. Even Dating Dad and his kidney stones, oblivious to the carnage.🤢
@@MamaTriedSoloNo, the cops dropped their guns when one of them said “watch your guns, watch your guns, watch your guns”. During a tense situation they had to be sure it was actually kids.
You won't believe what I'm going to tell you in this comment section. This paragraph has only just begun, and what I'm about to write will chill you to the bone. Nobody can begin to guess the awful truth that's about to be revealed. But that's nothing compared to the shocking reality that's about to come to light.
I understand that she had a warrant but she should have been sent to a psych ward first not a jail cell. She was horribly traumatized and should have been able to talk with a psychiatrist first.
The system really doesn't know how to deal with drug addicts except ignore/push aside the problem until it recurs. Really doesn't help that politicians often conflate addiction with dealing, sending addicts to prisons where drug abuse is rampant and often the only refuge from the physical and mental abuse that defines a prison environment. As a society, our sophistication in treating drug abuse is comparable to shamans treating infection with ritualistic dancing. It's performative, and more for the appeasement of wider society than anything approaching help for addicts.
@@henryptung being an addict shouldn't effect what the law charges you with anymore than being a fat person should.... why does the ammount of food have anything to do with you committing a crime? Same with drugs... dosent matter how many drugs you do it shouldn't effect how you are charged for a crime you commited because it has literally nothing to do with it If you rob a store do they ask how much you ate that day? Nope because it's irrelevant same with drugs lol it dosent matter how many drugs you've done it's irrelevant to what crime you commited Imagine someone was r*aped and the judge says "well he did donate to children's hospital earlier today so we won't charge him as much" or "well he did eat 2 tubs of icecream first so we oughta go easy on them" absolutely absurd.... Don't want to be treated like a criminal? Don't do crime 😂 it's really fkn simple I'm mentally ill , used to do lots of drugs , ive never r*aped or murdered anyone while I was high lmfao why? Am I special? Am I a superman? No I'm just not a criminal and decided to play games while I was high instead of going out crimeing
I got followed home at 19 luckily I still lived with my parents so my mum could meet me off of the bus but I do always dread to think what would’ve happened had I not or if I hadn’t noticed what he was doing. These videos always make me feel so grateful
Im scrolling through my feed and see your video. I looked at the time stamp and said "No I don't have time for this I have other things to do." 52 minutes later I still haven't done my chores lol I got sucked right into this story fast.
@@guyncali2 regardless on whether or not they think they killed a murderer, they technically didn't know either way just yet. It's a bizarre attitude to have about killing, doesn't always lead anywhere good.
even amanda said she never saw or heard of his name they were obviously keeping it a secret... it would have been too easy for heidi to try and implicate jason in some way if she could get off the hook but maybe he was just dumb and ignorant as fuck. if he knew what was going on and was a sick fuck surely he'd want to go 'see for himself' at some point. maybe they were paying him with drugs etc. still making him not bother to interfere with anything of their business
@@20ZZ20 Like I said, he KNEW some nefarious shit was going on and did nothing. Dope fiend, coward, desperate for a few coins, or maybe all of the above. Either way, there's a snowball's chance in hell that he didn't know something and turned a blind eye.
Bro let some strange Methany come live in his home *WHERE HIS CHILDREN WERE ALSO LIVING* because she was hanging around a ‘safe house’? Cheeses H Rice dude, what in the ever-loving EFF would make you think this was even a remotely grand idea? Wonder what kind of halfwit their mother is that this guy is the preferred alternative….
He’s not a dope addict. I think it’s quite obvious that he and his kids were literally the only ones that weren’t. I’m sure he suspected that they were dope addicts as folks running around the home at all hours. That’s an older house so it’s made pretty well so sound doesn’t travel as easily, it’s a mess and it’s quite large. He’s guilty of letting trash rent out a room.. that’s about it. Gotta remember how effin’ dumb these two were as this was their first go at murder (as far as we know) and they brought another person into the house who ended up sitting on their victim.. Then they let her go into a bathroom alone with what might as well of been a wormhole straight to a cop’s house.
Tallk the tallk and wallk the wallk while i fix this bathroom with caullk and make straight lines with challk literally the only dude ive ever heard say Taalllk and WALLLLLK lol someones v.a. has inflated their ego
Umm Heidi has told so many lies she can’t keep up with all of them, so she redirects her frustration towards the officer because she knows she’s been caught in a lie. Heidi is guilty as charged
At that age when they get home they lock themselves in their bedroom. When they have earbuds in their ears, a phone in their hands and eyes on the screen, they are oblivious to what is going on around them. .
This channel has taught me to appreciate how good my life has been.
U must be spoiled af
😮💨 every video!
mine is pretty chaotic and on the crappy side of things, but it certainly makes me appreciate the good moments even more!
U need a youtube channel to teach you this? Lol pathetic
That and probably avoid meth, it has a supporting role in way too many of these.
Imagine going over to a friends house to help them clean, only to be traumatized for life.
And then call the cops and they put u in jail to for having a warrant probably with the other girl that you just snitched on. 😂 Crazy
I can't believe they couldn't have the courtesy of taking her to the hospital to recover for a day before putting her in jail. Crazy 😮
that's a down ass friend to go over right after work, too. I'd be so fucking pissed.
@@PG-wz7by she had a felony warrant but I don't know what for.
I’m pretty sure anyone who comes to my house to clean is traumatized for life.
Thank you for NOT using AI voiceover. The extra effort of hiring a voice actor makes a huge difference in quality!
Agreed!!!!!
I can’t stand those AI voices and their scripts!!
One gazillion % agree!
I hear a robot voice, I turn off. Every time.
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Heidi is tweaking so bad that she can't sit still for a second or form a cohesive sentence.
best scenario for the police they can keep her awake and let her tweek out like they did made it much easier to interrogate and pull her lies apart
Before they even got 1 min into questioning her I knew she was tweaking I also knew she was gonna lie. She looks like she's been bumping illegal substances class a type for over a decade, people like that usually aren't honest even at times when they don't need to lie🤷🏼♀️
@@sammyluvschanel6799 they lost grip on reality...just say no
@atxgaming6998 oh she definitely had her OWN reality! She left and didn't get help. Oh she also had a gun and didn't use it even though she was so scared! She was enjoying the torture as much as her man. I've known people who were amazing people until they met meth. I think that's possibly the worst substance in altering a person 🤔
@@sammyluvschanel6799 It makes people demonic.
Not sure what Cynthia’s warrant was for, but her reaching out for help saved at least one woman’s life.
I mean technically both considering I’m sure he would’ve killed Heidi too
I actually used to live in Evansville and used to know her(married to a distant relative briefly) years and years ago. She has been on drugs and in and out of jail and prison for years. Meth addict and everything else. I had no idea she was involved in this case until I watched this.
WHY GO TO HELP CLEAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT?? FREE DRUGS?? Because the story doesn't make a whole lot of sense!! Like most Commenters see, She's tweaking terribly from excessive drug use So Cynthia must be an addict too. But she was brave enough to Run and get help after entering a scary bloody Crime Scene
@@jay78345I’m sure the trauma of this did nothing to help her get clean, even if she wanted to. Sitting on a body then thinking you are going to be next could drive many to self-medicate even if they never were on anything illegal to begin with. I hope better times for her in the future.
When meth was first getting ‘popular,’ one of my friends mentioned this cool drug that, if she were ever to try something, she would do ‘it’ because her sister had been trying it and she’s gotten a lot of energy and lost weight. She said it was called “meth.” I asked, “is it legal?” Knowing that her sister wasn’t that concerned with living an honest life (dropped out of school in 8th grade to sit in front of the tv all day, while Mom worked. Shoplifted.) My friend said “no.” I didn’t ask any further as that was all i needed to hear to know I didn’t want to hear any more. That was in the late 80’s or early 90’s, before everyone knew about the horrible reality of meth. Why anyone wants to go down that road these days, I can only think it’s because they get into it before they learn the truth? Who would want to look like that? The meth look is so distinguishable
@@jay78345you knew Heidi or Cynthia?
The cop who said "Well that escalated quickly" immediately after the bullets flew has nerves of steel 😂 💀
That man is clearly from the internet.
In my experience, maintaining composure is crucial. Those who allow irritation and anxiety to escalate rapidly are often unsuitable for certain roles. While anxiety can occasionally be beneficial, its necessity is rare. It is also important to distinguish between caution and anxiety.
Once you learn to control your emotions, you become adept at managing challenging situations. Moreover, individuals who demonstrate composure under pressure should be appointed to handle high-stress incidents in leadership roles. When someone comments that a situation "escalated quickly," it often refers to a person who faced a traumatic event without letting it affect their performance.
In my experience, maintaining composure is crucial. Those who allow irritation and anxiety to escalate rapidly are often unsuitable for certain roles. While anxiety can occasionally be beneficial, its necessity is rare. It is also important to distinguish between caution and anxiety.
Once you learn to control your emotions, you become adept at managing challenging situations. Moreover, individuals who demonstrate composure under pressure should be appointed to handle high-stress incidents in leadership roles. When someone comments that a situation "escalated quickly," it often refers to a person who faced a traumatic event without letting it affect their performance.
@@douglaslang2218lo😅
Nerves of steal, sociopathy... Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.
Bottom line don't pick up meth addicts living at the Econolodge and invite them to live in your house with you & your kids. Leave them where they're at.
Creed to live by 👍
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Don't be a bleeding heart white-knight and invite them into your space! It'll only impact you negatively...
Exactly! Whenever I’m thinking about how nice it would be to live amongst this filth, I think about this story.
Exactly. I hope he was charged with child endangerment.
YA FOR SURE. that guy must be a User himself or he was hoping he get sexual favors from her or something. that guy is suspicious AF. He should lose his kids just for the condition of that house and for his poor chose for roommates.
As a former meth and heroin addict, this triggered me. Meth addicts are absolutely insane. Staying awake for days on end makes you VERY crazy and scary. I have seen some really scary shit and have also had to escape a scary situation, similar to this but not as bad. Meth heads are TERRIFYING
My dad was a meth addict. 😬☠️
I can only imagine.
İ’m proud of you for having saved yourseld from that 🫶🏻
good times
I too am a former meth and heroin addict. Some people get really dark. I am blessed and grateful to be living a healthy happy life today :)
Wow. Drugs, alcohol, ex-cons, sex hook ups at 3am while many people living in a huge filthy house. Those poor children.
Well prepared for america in 20 years
@@kenw2225 make that 5.
I worked at a home for kids who were abused. One boy was 5 when he witnessed his dad shoot someone and drag the body out of his house. He had major issues.
Many of these kids will never be right…
How did that guy leave the house without bringing his kids.
I'd be a human shield for my kids.
That dad was renting out to some shady people
Every day I am so thankful for my quiet little life
@@leeinwiswhat does that even mean or have to do with the original comment.
If you ever feel bored i can change that lol
Me too!!
@@jer.milasot95 That's a creepyass comment. Are you going to be a future subject for one of these videos?
@@FuzedBox Yeah that was the purpose behind my sarcastic comment😂
To pretend i'm a lunatic who will ruin a peaceful life
"I can be a very violent person".....Not a good thing to say to a detective
FR I was like "Girl.... that's a threat 💀"
But honest, eh
Her brain was fried.
@@softsounds8453please please please get outside for once
I think she could tell that he was not believing her, and her methed-out brain was trying to concoct 5 different excuses and directions at once, and what was falling out of her mouth were only bits and pieces of each one
"Do you have any guns, knives, needles or-"
"-I have a gu-"
"LET ME FINISH... or bombs?.... Whats this?? A gun??? WHY WOULDNT YOU TELL ME!?"
She said it MULTIPLE times too😅
😂😂😂😂
Women cops 🙄
When you want to gather information but prefer to hear yourself talk
The dogs being protective over Amanda on that bed…while trying to trust the officers and show them she was hurt….was heart breaking.
Those are some good dogs
The entire time watching the video, I kept wondering and hoping about the dogs (that they had a good outcome).
You Ain't Kidding. Probably The Only Reason She Made It Out Alive.
I agree 😢
Think the pitties were part of k9 lol but idk only one person said they had a dog that lived there
Amanda clinging to the officer after she was startled by something falling is fucking heartbreaking.
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Yeah, it’s one of those things that you see in movies but think it’s a little exaggerated. Then you see a real life victim go through it and it’s sort of a rude awakening.
yes and that the way that officer is acting whit her break my hart to.that what i wrote in another coment!he s clearly not calming that poor girl down the way he acted whit her!
is it fucking heartbreaking?
and the way the dogs were with to because they could sense she was hurt
My opinion with being a mother. Never , never have anyone you don't know live in your home when you have children living in that home with you. Children first always.
Sadly some parents only think or care about themselves.
I'm always telling my step dad this, that men don't have that danger radar that women do, they take their eyes off their kids when they're out in public, or put them in risky situations, because they simply don't even think about the danger. No nurturing skills whatsoever.
I don't agree with your statement/opinion, I have two kids and till this day my wife is hypnotized by her phone, in my case I'm the dad and always awareof my surroundings at all time if I can think it is the next person can do, sadly I always think the worst first, example I get on a plane and I've already seen it go through every single bad situation possible, and then I have to board the plane and face all my fears, and pretty much that's how I live life, so saying men don't have awareness is mind-blowing @effaroundfindout
Young adults nowadays don’t have the same sane mentality most normal people have
THANK YOU !
The guilt is radiating off Heidi. She must have been in about 97 different positions in the space of that interrogation
She's tweaking
It wasn't guilt it was meth. She was tweaking hardcore.
it's called meth.... Whirling and twirling. Geeking and tweaking.
You have never been around any who does hard drugs.
And almost every single one was a defensive or pleading (trying to get them to believe her) position.
There is no situation where armored trucks and police are outside my house with a megaphone telling people to come out, and I’m leaving my kids alone inside.
Facts
I was thinking the same thing. The fact the father didn’t wake the kids to go downstairs with him rose my suspicions
with a BEER in his hands lmao
maybe he was just checking and didn't know that he would have to leave, so now that he has come out he couldn't return and bring his kids.
I guess you trust the police way more than me cuz im not letting my kids exit until i know they arent trigger happy
The way the dogs protected her 😢 even though she had only been there less than 24 hours. We don’t deserve them.
I'm afraid to watch because I can't see that they left the dogs in that home after rescuing the people 😢
“Protected her” from the men that completely ignored them and took her away from them, you mean?
@@MG-pj2oo-I am always afraid to watch if there’s a dog there
Because if the dog is in a protective mode and gets aggressive, someone might just shoot the dog & that always scares me 😱
@@MG-pj2oo the cops call the ASPCA when there r dogs at a crime scene & no one else there to take them. they let Jason go, so he was able to go home w/ his kids. its the kids I worry about.
@@aanon5716same here. Doggos are awesome. But the kids definitely take precedent.
People have such a big heart for dogs - but can’t even see the kids - and then wonder why so many kids grow into angry and sad adults… if we showed the same patience and affection towards children as we do to dogs, we would live in a different world.
This is why you dont live with junkies or let them anywhere near your children.
Ya I think he said he met her in a bar and she was a st#$$r so he offered her a place to stay. With his two kids. His judgement is way off I hope cps has a good look at him and his two children perhaps there are better living conditions for them.
@@shimmer8289didn't he say the guy was living in a halfway house or something? 😮
@yvonne8786 I know she was staying at an econo lodge where the ppl in her trade stay, where the other murderer stayed, Carey I didn't catch it. He's six feet under. She is living off tax payer money for the rest of her life. She set up a date with a couple at the home having sx with both, her bf returned and went crazy at her party players. How the heck the home owner Jason was oblivious to all this is incredulous.
@@shimmer8289 the homeowner said Carey was living in a safe house. I assume that's some type of rehab or halfway house. The homeowner also brought up pain meds in the interview. Out of the blue he said he was taking them for something. He's probably an addict too. Those poor kids.
@yvonne8786 I can't imagine him being allowed to walk away Scott free with those kids. It is to me, almost as bad as the junkies he invited into his home. Ugh
The most disturbing to me is how the poor woman speaks about being assulted sexually with flat tone almost matter of fact ...it's heart-breaking.
Sex, or so called sex is all the know 😡
@@phylis3917what?
coping mech
"poor woman" ?!!! she came over voluntarily to HAVE sex with a stranger and her boyfriend.
Literally every 2 minutes in one of these videos "But the truth is even/far/significantly more twisted/disturbing/horrifying than police/anyone could have imagined."
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Its to keep the audiance captivated. Its story telling
@@RubberPigsAndGir No, it's BAD storytelling. Amateur hour.
literally
Feels like it's to cater to the lowest common denominator, if it works it works unfortunately.
I don't think I'd be able to get over knowing that I've sat on a dead body...
House of Horrors 😮
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You could hear the trauma as she was describing the events. I hope she's ok
She'll probably think twice before she ever sits down on a couch again...
Girl basically had no spatial awareness and had the mind of a peanut
I’m all for building up suspense, but saying “it would be nothing compared to the horrors that would be revealed “ 100 times without saying what happened is just annoying
Thinking the same thing!
Agreed - in older videos it is the perfect amount but it is getting a little “click-baity” sounding. LOVE their thoroughness and I KNOW that I will be appalled regardless, I hope they cut out a few of those “nothing compared to…” lines.
right? they also only reveal the ''horrors'' in the last ten minutes
I wish they would just tell the story and try so hard to make entertainment out of it.
Yesss, I got really lost and had to rewind a couple of times
1st time I stayed on a video about brutal crimes with narration but this was very well done, highly executed in every way. Speak, clarity, lining up the story to make sense and interesting without overdoing it for clicks or stretching out the narrative with ideas that takes u away from the initial story. This is like journalism
All their videos are top notch
Like journalism, but it's not actually. The constant repeating how the cops didn't expect what comes next can be considered journalistic malpractice. Not their best work
How you gonna count 9 gunshots and then the cop says "That escalated quickly " as calm as can be. Then "Yeah". I'm crying 😂. Totally took me off guard
Some people get used to or handle situations like that for whatever reason. Been in a few situations and I just sorta identified problems and fixed them as I could, keeps my mind busy I guess.
Police and military have the best senses of humor
Well… he ain’t wrong
Don’t forget the response “yeah.” In agreement
@@DasaniDragon ong 😂
So... people were being beaten, screaming, and being r*ped downstairs, but no one upstairs heard anything?? That makes no sense at all.
Exactly there is no way no one had heard it at all.
Honestly I think the timeline is just very confusing and we don't have all the information so it's really hard to judge what they could even have heard. It also happened over a much longer time period than you are probably thinking.
Taking everything we learned from the video, We know Tim and Amanda got to the house around 3am. We know Cynthia was brought to the house at noon. We have no idea what time Jason went to work. They never said what time the police arrived, but we know Heidi had the gun since she picked Cynthia up and they said she had it for ~11 hours. So we can assume it was around 11pm when the cops arrived. All this informations gives us a time frame of ~20 hours for this entire scenario to unfold.
Tim was killed before Cynthia got to the house so sometime between 3am and noon. If we assume Jason works a normal daytime job he probably would have left the house before 8 or 9 in the morning. That gives at least 3 hours for everything to happen where he wouldn't have even been there to hear anything. If it happened earlier in the night he would have been sleeping. We know Jason went out to eat with a date after he got off work so he probably wouldn't even have gotten home until later in the night. This leaves only a few hours where he could have heard anything and by the time he got home at night 99% of everything was over. Obviously we don't know what time he left or what time he got back, but it's easily believable he wasn't home or was sleeping when everything happened. Both Cynthia and Amanda said they never saw him.
It would be easier to judge with more detail, but even making educated guesses I can see why he wouldn't have known what happened. Him and his two kids are the only ones who could have heard anything upstairs and we know very little about the kids or what they heard.
i'd wager, there was hella shouting and such regularly given the nature of those involved... i've lived around ex-cons and addicts enough to know, volatility is commonplace and nobody gives its a second thought, unless they can get something out of it.
I wanna know the company that did their sound isolation walls
@@paladro I Know When You Live With Crazy Drug Addicts, You Ignore Them When You Need Help Paying the Rent. It's Tragic But I Can See This Dude Warning His Kids To Stay In Their Rooms Until He Got Home. If There Was A Back Door (Cynthia Ran Out It) They May Have Never Seen The Junkies... This World Just Gets More F+++ed Every Day. I Was Actually Expecting This To Be An Old Story, And When They Said 2021 I Nearly Choked. I've Been Sober From Opiates For 3 Years, Lived Around Crackheads, Fiends, Dopeheads And People On Bath Salts, I've Seen Some Crazy Shite, But Never This Level Of Crazy... Maybe That's Meth For Ya. 🤷🏽♀️
"come over here, RELAX" such a soothing presence will surely help calm this very scared person.
I'm so glad someone mentioned this
right!!!
Right??? Awful technique. Unprofessional.
It reminds me of the fact that "never in the history of calming down, has someone calmed down by being told to calm down"
Why Is No One RELAXING? I Specifically Requested It!
can I just say, I went back and watched from your channels beginning and it's amazing how far you've come. this is actual content. above and beyond to get the footage and analysis, and not over dramatized like TV.
they do an excellent job with content collection and presentation (interrogation and police bodycam footage, interviews, 911 calls, photos, etc.) but the narration does lean on the side of over-dramatisation. It can get distracting at times.
Please never change. The editing, the writing, the voice acting, everything is perfect ❤
Agreed 💯
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It’s nice this channel doesn’t do the over the top psychology behind everyone’s statements anymore.
And the amount of time it must take to organize each piece of footage to tell the perfect story to keep us engaged and making a sensible timeline of events. Like they could’ve just told us Carey died in the beginning with the footage, but felt it was best to tell us when Heidi found out (though we could already assume).
@jimdarhower4945 agreed they used to strech it out so long going on about body positions and movements and ways of talking just made it slow asf
The father for letting these tweekers around his kids is also waste of space.
He clearly didn't know they were tweekers, he thought he was helping out a friend, he just didn't know her anywhere near as much as he thought he did.
Na dog, who the hell doesn’t know what a crack head looks like?
I'm still confused on how he didn't hear any of the screaming
He's naive.... your statement suggests that children are a waste of space... use your brain.
@@redrangerrr558 I understand where you're coming from, and I think you mean well, but I'm guessing you're not a parent.
Parents need to be held to a higher standard.
Children are more or less defenseless. Parents are pretty much their only defense, & the home should **absolutely** be a child's refuge.
Every child needs and deserves that.
The only person who should be allowed to stay in a child's home is someone who loves the child and will be a positive influence.
Even if "Dad" didn't "know" they were tweakers, he knew they didn't love his kids & weren't going to be a positive influence... that much was obvious just from observing them.
He claims that he wanted to "protect" Heidi, yet he didn't seem to think about protecting his kids.
He DOES have culpability in what he brought into the home & subjected his kids to.
I hope the kids heal from this experience and end up wiser than their father.
I hope you consider the different perspective I provided.
Only reason Heidi asked “Is Amanda dead” and “is everyone dead” is because she was hoping there was no one alive to tell the cops what she did.
I think you are absolutely right.
Yes
@Bellakeilberg Because actively allowing someone to get hurt without even trying to get help is just as bad it's one of the same reasons I'll never sympathize with mothers who allow their partners to SA their kids just bc their scared of them they allow others to hurt someone just to keep the "peace"
@Bellakeilbergwhat did she do???!!!😮😮😮 she physically left the house…..ALONE. She picked up the last girl and brought her back to the house to be the next victim!!!! YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS!!!!
@Bellakeilberg Well in this case the man is dead.
Why would a parent, ANY PARENT, walk out of a house police had surrounded and not bring out their children? I don't care what was going on. NO LOVING PARENT would EVER, EVER do that!
He was probably torn on what to do considering there are dozens of officers with guns drawn outside... Think about it... One wrong move, and you're going to be shot. I've seen COUNTLESS videos where officers scream multiple commands, conflicting commands at once, and things go wrong, innocent people get killed... But, yeah, shouldn't have been in that situation to begin with. He probably had no idea what was happening in the house, so thought the kids were safer inside, when really, they were safer going out with him. He could have yelled to police that he had children with him or something.
I would not want to walk out with my kids to armed officers, all of them yelling, the poor kids would be scared witless, one slight wrong move out of fear and those bullets would be flying as we saw, and that man hadn't got a gun. I would tell the kids to stay there and go out alone, informing the cops there were kids in there as he did. If he had walked out with his kids followed by the man with the bent pipe, they would more than likely all be dead, no loving parent would want that.
So Heidi’s idea of “getting help” was to go pick up Cynthia to be another victim. Surely she thought the cops would never buy that.
Yeah if she was able to leave the house without Carey, why she didn't call 911 then is a big indicator of her involvement.
"I need to get help but I can't be the one to call the cops. So I'm gonna bring another vulnerable woman into the same house as my murderous rapist boyfriend."
Yeah. Sound logic there, Heidi
Heidi is definitely a person you don't want in your life.
With friend Heidi you don’t need enemies
She's been trying to wriggle out of situations her whole life; disgusting. She's deluded enough to think she's good at it.
I pray for the innocents forced into this tragedy through no fault of their own. The children, the adult victims, AND the dogs. What a sad story.
Thanx for including the dogs. Seriously! Most ppl overlook the kids AND the poor animals involved!
Poor dawgz ❤
@@decentpeoplesallday I haven't watched yet, does anything happen to dogs in this video?
@@GardenGoyle no. Hopefully they were adopted by decent people.
@@amandaskywalker7331 thank you for letting me know! Hoping so too!
A guy tried to follow his daughter upstairs and he didn’t, at the very LEAST, kick them out? He needs to not have those children.
You know what else is messed up… the killing, the s*x, the guy getting kicked in the balls and yelling the the dad upstairs didn’t hear none of this? Are you kidding me?
@@Adam-vs2in They're all on loads of drugs. So yeah he probably was zooted beyond belief.
@@Adam-vs2in that’s exactly what I was saying all the screaming and yelling and they didn’t hear anything in those kids had to have came out their room to use the bathroom or get food or something
Also letting people do meth and have sex parties in the same house as your kids wtf
@@Adam-vs2in I think he said he was passed out after passing a stone. Maybe he took something. But I wills say that my husband came off a 24 hr paramedic shift and there was this girl screaming in another apartment. It sounded awful and he slept right through it.
"come out make yourself known now!" the dog: "Upstairs sir"
The father acts like somebody got into a cat fight at his house. He’s not concerned one bit for the dead body, the traumatized women, or for his own children’s trauma witnessing all of this go down. Absolute insanity. If CPS wasn’t such a broken system those poor babies would be in a better home.
its really sad, i get a LOT was going on in this case, but the second he came out of the house and admitted to harboring dead bodies and tweakers in his home and came outside to talk to police leaving his children in the home with weapons and the dangerous tweakers, he should have been charged with child negligence and endangerment etc
Right, he's eerily calm.. like its just another Tuesday. It's weird
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CPS would still be better. It was a blessing for me, bad but still better than my biological parents.
There isn't a "better home" to give them to. "Wards of the state" I had a friend who was a ward of the state because his family had a meth kitchen in their house. He had said his grandmother and another relative had an in-law suite on his parents property where they made the meth lab. He didn't seem much better off. In his own words "at least his parents love him and feed him when he was hungry." He barely even had any clothes. But whenever we hung out he ate like he was starving. He ended up moving back in with his mom and dad and it helped him. Sometimes I pass his old group home and I wonder how the kids there are doing. If they feel like anyone loves them. The only solution to this problem that I have found is to take away the "right" to have children. It should be a privilege granted to those who can earn it.
That father knew his daughter said something about a GROWN MAN trying to follow her up to her room and the father didn't do one thing about it. That father enabled these crazy people to act even crazier by letting them stay at his house with his kids and also not paying any attention and or ignoring what was going on in his house.
And kids alone in house with these people while he was on his date
@@traveltm poor daughter probably been abused and it looks like his son already raped someone , probably thinks its normal considering where his father let him live
He did say he was busy passing a kidney stone...🫣🤔
It's called liberal gymnastics. "I shouldn't judge a man walking up the stairs to follow a girl."
@@user-fk2lr2bf1gnothing liberal about that ffs
I am again humbly thankful that i have no idea how anyone gets into a predicament like this. Gotta thank my parents for that.
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Drugs were definitely involved
Drugs
Meth and the bar scene....
And the fact it’s pure luck to have good parents tbh 😢
One thing I've learned from this channel, soon as you start picking up weirdo vibes from somebody get TF away from them... Every one of these cases, people around the sickos always say "something seemed off about them"
If Heidi made it out of the house safely WHY WOULD AHEAD GO GET HER FRIEND and go back to the house???
Heidi is in on the whole thing… she was baiting the ppl to the house!!!
“Survivor Amanda Siebe wants the world to know the truth about convicted rapist and killer Heidi Carter.
"She (Carter) needed to pay for her part in it because she was acting like she was a victim and Tim was the victim, (and) I was the victim but she wasn't in any shape way or form a victim," Siebe said.” From: Surviving victim of brutal attack tells her story exclusively to 44News - Brian Miller Feb 17, 2023
Truth , the meth really messed her head up
I agree !
Oh sh***t😮
@@oDannyMitchello How does that date indicate they didn't do their research? They said the incident took place October 19th 2021. They said she was sentenced on March 16th 2023. The interview with 44news was from February 17 2023, after Heidi was convicted but before she was sentenced.
The way those poor dogs were protecting Amanda.....when they could do nothing, really. Heart breaking.
I thought the same thing. The pitbull looked so sweet. I hope they got good homes. ❤
@@erinaslanian2474😢
My heart always breaks for the animals that are trapped and forced to live in such deplorable conditions. No telling what abuse and horrors they endured while being in that house. With those people. And no telling what ever happened to them afterwards. 😩💔🥲
Surprisingly they weren't hurt
I thought that too! Those are good dogs, and I hope they get better homes
Saying "relax" does nothing to actually calm a person.
Yeah, how can you relax after escaping the hell🤷
@@inesnaglic472I agree but what else are they supposed to say, they had a lot on their plate and they had to focus on a lot of things at once.
@@aarongideon9934 well, yes, it's a chaotic moment for everyone
Except make everything much worse.
It was basically saying stay put we can deal with your panic attack after we catch the murderer and save the hostages,
THANK YOU FOR THE CAPTIONS❣
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Father of the Year there, Jason. Imagine inviting literal drug addicts back to live in your house with your children.
Trueee
Imagine walking out of the house and leaving them in there alone!
I thought the same, is no one else worried for them?! I haven’t finished the video but I HOPE they have been taken into a safer environment.
Some people have to make tough choices. Between two of your friends and two of your kids is a tough choice. Your kids may resent you but if he refused and they were under the influence they could get violent and then his kids are without a father. It's not so simple.
happens too often here. in Evansville we have a lot of cases of parents mrdering their kids over drugs / they were high. it is so dangerous here
Y’all really are the peak of true crime content. Thank you for putting out so much high quality content.
If someone told me that Heidi was 50 years old I wouldn't question it. Unreal that she's only 36. That's drugs and booze for you.
no fucking shot she is 36 that woman MUST be in her 40s at least holy shit
@@sosayweall_jpg 36 and 40s isn't that far apart to say ''no fucking shot'' for but ok
U people say this on every video
@@thcsienola_772 she doesn't even look that old. This is what most women look like without makeup...
@@billyd530111lol she looks normal to me.
Doing nasty sex shit with people you don't know at 3 am while kids are near is insane.
The man narrating this video is my favourite. I could listen to him all day. Love this channel. Blessings from Australia
Right? Very captivating and thankfully not an AI voice
@@dennisrice4057I thought it was an AI voice? I’ve heard this voice in other videos, or at least very similar
His name is Raven
Yes he has one of the best voices , I hate listening to channels who use AI voices.
@@deviantashRaven? I thought his name was Russell Archey
"One of them is lying, but which?!?" You know, the one that frantically sought out the police, initiating the entire police intervention? Or the one that lived in the house and was dating the alleged murderer?... Tough call
And invited 3 people into the house 😂
Those poor children and dogs. The gun shots is enough trauma to go through, I can't imagine the other trauma they had to endure in the house.
I am thinking the same too😢. The kids and the dogs might have bad trauma😢😢
The 36-year-old Heidi Carter woman looks more like 56 than she does 36
Something else that was striking is how their dogs defended the woman who was restrained in the bedroom..
Even though they didn't know her.
Dogs are excellent animals.
I wonder if Jason and hif fams have moved by now. I certainly would not want to stay at a place where something like that happened.
@@jonslg240meth use will do that
That one cop acted like he was in a marvel movie "Erm that escalated quickly" lmao
Joss Whedon ass dialog for sure
Thank you sm for putting their names at the top to correspond with who is on the screen. So extremely helpful!!!
Feeling a dead body in the couch is what nightmares are made of 😳
Poor thing must have been so frightened. She stepped into a nightmare.
it wasnt even in the couch, it was just a body on the floor with some blankets on it. thats even worse
@@Riftweaver1981 Yeah. More like a drug addict’s “couch”…or possibly a college kid. 😉
@@leannemo7382 wtf does that even mean? sound like a moron a "drug addicts couch"
If I sat on a dead body I would pass out and die!
Don’t bring random strangers you find at a bar to come live with you and your children 🤷🏼♀️
Biggest fear I have pertaining to my ex. :/
@@UberFoX If it can get him some pork chops, then of course he will simp.
He said that she was staying at "the motel that $ex offenders went to live at after they get released from prison," NOT that SHE was a $ex offender just released from prison.
Speaking as a guy, I would want to do SOMETHING to help any woman get out of that situation. IF I already happened to have a room to rent, it's conceivable that I might offer it to her on the spot.
After all, if you are renting space, then you have already decided to let someone you barely know move in. With that in mind, it's not a stretch.
@@darkwater72 so u invite her and her unknown habits to live with you with no extra screening with access to ur kids while ur off at work? And then your daughter confides in you that one of them attempted to follow her to her part of the house and you brush it off? Sounds like naivety to me.
@@Idenquinn 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I watched this at 3AM and when she said she sat on a dead body got me scared all night
These people are excellent examples of why you shouldn't do drugs.
Drugs gets you tangled up with these kinds of people since they feel they're already doing illegal stuff already so everything's fair game
Literally, you slip away from reality and one day might wake up having killed someone because of drugs.
Drugs don't make murderers but drugs make murderers more likely to act on their urges
@@Stellar_Politicsdrugs melt your brain to become a murderer.
@@heykeiffers6684 only a few do, drugs enplies many do like meth yes
I'm only like halfway in, where they discover the woman on the bed. Look at those two sweet dogs. They stayed with her and even now warn and protect and try to comfort her. Dogs are legitimately angels with paws.
Yeah they are, made me miss my dog tbh.
I noticed that too! I rewound it a bit and watched it again. Poor dogs probably went through hell.
You can even see the dogs in the scene frame used for the cover of the video. This was right as Amanda had just pushed the back english staffy off of her because it was trying to get under/behind Amanda because it wanted HER to take care of the situation. There was zero protection mode there.
The tan dog is averting its gaze from the officers because it doesn't want confrontation. Again, zero protectiveness.
These dogs barked to release nervous tension.
thank you so so much for the subtitles. as a non-native english speaker, i can't quite tell what people are saying in bodycam and interogation room footages. wouldn't be able to watch the documentary without subtitles. that, and i learned so much new vocabulary. i love this channel
I’m a native speaker and it’s hard to tell what they’re saying with the mic quality, the subtitles are a huge help!
Were are you from if you don’t me asking? I’d love to practice Spanish French Russian Japanese Arabic or Mandarin 🎉🎉 if you’re any of the following😂❤I need dinner suggestions on how to pick up a language more quicker
@@BunniiBlossomBleum damn i'm sorry, i'm from poland so i can't help u with those. but i am learning russian (currently A2 level), and i learned english pretty fast. the best advice i can give you is immersive learning. i learned pretty much all of the english words and grammar by myself, just diving into the internet and surrounding myself with media in english. it started during quarantine because i was bored, and i suddenly went from A2 to B2+/C1. songs, books, yt videos and movies in the language you wanna learn help so much. i remember reading the original harry potter book along with the polish translation and a dictionary 😅talking with natives is also a must. with russian, i'm doing a very similar thing (tho now i have an awesome teacher, who's russian and fluent in polish). i read russian children's books with google translator, or watch movies in russian trying to pick up certain words i already know so i can get accustomed with the language. i probably have it easier than most tho, cuz my first language is also slavic. i hope you'll find what works for u
It was hard for me too at the beginning but now I can understand more
This is my absolute favorite true crime channel. You've earned every single one of your subscribers.
No excuse for Heidi, she literally left the house she could have got help and tried to save that poor man’s life. Meth is a hell of a drug to amplify poor decision making.
That woman is a hundred percent as guilty as the dude. maybe more he was using her to lure people.
Bet you never said that or felf that way about a crack head.😒
She didn't just leave the house she helped keep them captive, made threats, watched them get assaulted etc. she's nearly just as bad as the guy
People in abusive relationships do really weird things. Very often, they can feel that appeasement or cooperation is the only choice available.
Even the victim said the guy was all about the mind games. Making the first woman watch him do something terrible (in this case, r@pe) is a common tactic. It reinforces the idea that the abuser can do whatever he wants. "See what I am doing? This could be you next time. It's not like anyone is going to stop me."
At also permits the accusation that now she is an accomplice. Now she can tells anyone, because SHE will go to jail.
Her presence can also be used to make her feel complicit in the act. Sort of like "See. I did this terrible thing right in front of you, and you didn't even try to stop me. You must be just like me, even if you don't know it yourself. Why else would you just sit there if you didn't WANT to watch me do this?"
Another common fear is, what will happen to them if they try to get away, but fail?
Also, it didn't sound like this assault/ murder thing had happened before. I don't think she had any idea that was coming.
@@darkwater72 BS That demon was no victim...
Cynthia deserves a lot of credit for escaping and getting help (Amanda owes her a big thank you!). I hope this trauma helps her pull it together.
Yes I believe truly she saved Amanda's life cuz they would have went on and killed her... poor Cynthia they locked her up anyway for trying to get help
Cynthia also didn’t want to end up dead… she had just as much reason for getting out and calling for help as anyone else did
I doubt trauma _helps anyone_ get things together, it will likely only make things harder.
@@Catwomen4512 Exactly! It makes so many things harder. It's not gonna help you put yourself together. It's gonna rip you apart :(
@@Catwomen4512 You're probably right. But it's sad. I felt for her.
What kind of father invites a woman he barely knows to move Into his house with children there? Talk about poor judgment! Smh
She probably knows how to con people. Sob story. Times are tough, maybe needed help paying the rent?
It appeared the house had separate dwellings. If I were one of the kids, I'd be more traumatized by police pointing assault rifles screaming at me to put my hands up....but that's just me.
@@MamaTriedSoloTHIS
@@MamaTriedSolo she does seem like a con artist supreme. "I was trying to save my own life and two other people" yet packs a gun all day and helps tape them up.
Exactly. If she is staying at The Econolodge, there are reasons she ended up there. Under no circumstances do you invite someone like this lady into your house when you have kids. Jason seems like a very low functioning individual. The kind of person who buys jelly donuts for dinner...
To be fair people who are a little more realistic decide not to have kids knowing the harm and chaos possible. Psychotic, selfish people often are happy to have kids for attention and to use their kids.
The dog in the beginning had me cracking up at the stairway 😂
The fact that she left awhile then came back says it all. She could have went to the police while she was gone if she truly was “afraid for her life & the other women’s lives.”
Great point, I didn't even think of that.
@@davidrele She also had the loaded gun on her person.
@@darbywing2 Yeah as if the dude would allow her a gun, if she wasn't in on it.
Survivor's guilt, those that escape want to go back and rescue others.
Just because she didn't go to the police even though she left doesn't mean anything, she could've been scared what might happen if she does go to police. A lot of people go through this, they are scared to speak up since anything could happen or they could be made out to be a liar
I really hope the judge goes easy on her for the felony warrant. She saved a woman’s life at the risk of her freedom. That says a lot.
She did a good thing
But she also needs to be held fully accountable for her prior misdeeds.
If her felony was an assault, do you think that victim would be happy if she got off lighter because she then went and did something right?
@@UnscrupulousAgitator yes
@@UnscrupulousAgitatoranswer this question and it’ll answer yours: do people deserve a second chance?
@@UnscrupulousAgitatorredpill boy, go learn some state law.
@@UnscrupulousAgitator Yes, I Would Feel Better Having Survived Because A Human Put Their Freedom On The Line For MY Life. Even If She Had Taken A Life, She Deserves Redemption. And You Should Hope For Some Too.
This case is sponsored by Methamphetamine
Thats methed up
Sure is
Makes perfect sense. Meth makes you lose your mind, be promiscuous and hyper aggressive
You always know it's gonna be good when the Executive Producer is Florida Man.
@@michaelkaizer85 🤣
And let's talk about the dogs trapped in there , they are victims too
Absolutely.
Yeah those poor traumatized dogs. We should have gotten a statement from them, too.
Who knows what they did to those dogs. Scary either way
The floor plan of that house might be the craziest part of the story
Kind of like Buffalo Bill's dungeon. They shoulda used Goodbye Horses in this video.
It used to be an old corner store, I use to live there before these people moved in. That’s why there’s huge open windows in the front.
@@destineeconsuelo728my first thought was that looks like a storefront.
@@destineeconsuelo728anyway, sorry, I get so irate when kids are involved, I know a lot of people who had ghetto ass parents and it’s just disgusting, because as I said, it’s pretty easy to not have kids… just don’t have raw sex, and if you do, use plan B, and if you don’t, get an abortion, and if that’s too late, there’s adoption… so yeah.
But I realized it might sound rude to ask you if it’s ghetto bc like I’m not calling you ghetto like that, just asking if the neighborhood was like that type of place
@destineeconsuelo did it always look like a tweaker den?
Cynthia's testimony almost made me cry because she wanted to help a friend and ended up with trauma she will never recover from fully most likely. Hopefully she finds peace and a way to live the best life she can after everything she went through 💚
yea she aint completely innocent though because she literally has committed multiple felonies, a lot of them being battery
Um No. No one goes to a house at 3 am "to help clean"
@@truthseeker6370Exactly !!!
Drugs were absolutely involved @@truthseeker6370
@@Virazpodobajka addiction is Horrible for the person, their family, and their life choices. I'm pretty positive that Lots of us/people have lived through Horrific circumstances and chose to be Better than where we came from....we all have the opportunity to Fight (inner-personally) for a better life and to Be better people.
Current society and Government are rewarding Dependency/lack of initiative and Independence, and lack of self control. People have no personal pride, self respect, nor respect for others, or other's belongings.
The government owns them now- both in and out of jail. They're doing what the current government wants- producing illegitimate fatherless kids dependent on the government, crimes where they're locked up by the government.
Live in homes paid for by the government, as well as their food paid for by the government... Except the Government Isn't Paying For Any Of It... it's us taxpayers paying for the government plan.
She was hoping Cynthia would help them clean up the bodies, not the house. Her story is so ridiculous.
She said she wanted to call the cops but didn't want to be the one to call the cops.. so maybe she was just took messed up to tell her what was going on ..hence her saying that she hinted to Cynthia that she needs help& blood on her boots ..I mean I just don't understand why she would leave and go get another victim when she already had 2 at the house.this could also maybe be like wat the cop was saying . this was Heidi's way of getting her bf killed ..knowing he'd do something really sick ..or just to start chaos since they were broken up. I don't know just thinking of wat the insite is..but there's no explanation when it comes to meth
Heidi has this dark energy around her. Definitely the type to play cute one moment but completely flip the next
Her accidentally SITTING on a dead body is crazy
So is using it as sofa stuffing.
@@itsmeagain7825Nah there's nothing wrong with that
Creeps
@@stanzaloan3454 it may be OK while fresh but it's going to "ripen".
Rigamorteus..& smell@@itsmeagain7825
I can't imagine having my kids in a house looking like that. Those poor kids deserve better parents.
I bet the father still has custody. They are living a rough life. It’s appalling. They deserve better.
Even those dogs don't deserve to live in that hell hole.
Imagine sitting on a dead body, being intimidated and threatened.. make an escape and find safety ..just to go to jail for another charge… I get it but my god…. I feel for her. Also with kids in the house?? Sickening. I hope everyone can heal from this in a safe way
She had a warrant for a reason. It didn't come out of the blue.
She's right though, that's why people don't come forward with things. They end up in the spot.
@dbells626 don't commit felonies and you won't have to worry about that problem, and yes this is coming from a guy with 9 felonies on his record so I most certainly can speak on it. All drug addicts doing drugs and one had a conscious but was on the run from a felony warrant yes she did the rite thing but was also actively doing the wrong thing. It's been 8yrs since I got out that street life and there isn't a single person I know now that would dare put me in that situation addicts do not respect addicts. The situation is a million times worse then anything I've ever been into so no telling how bad her warrant really was. Heart goes out to all not involved but she had a motive for going over and cleaning them Bible study wasn't first on that list.
@@dbells626 I would say it depends on what the warrant is for. If it was like possession charges with no intent to sell then sure let them off but if it was something like a warrant for abuse of a minor or something like that then it is what it is unfortunately.
@@blankiepoo it was a felony warrant, hard to just sweep that under the rug. If it was just some silly misdemeanor they may have, who knows.
"The item in Carey's hands was later identified as a selfie stick."
Cops: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They needed to take care of this ladies mental health and give her breaks during interviewing. It can leave you with ptsd obviously but when pressured to go over things like this and then when the lady gets left alone after the interview it really can impact you. Bless her I hope she’s ok
Which lady? The one skitzing out on meth? Poor dear. ☺️
@carolyn no the one who escaped the home, not Heidi.
They're all meth heads. How can you not see that?
Amanda wanted to talk as soon as possible bc she wanted them caught
@@carolynm9638 That's an insult to schizophrenics. At least most of them get treatment and don't help rape and murder people...
Person: Breathes
*breathing can be a huge red flag as it’s a clear indicator that the suspect may be mocking the dead*
So on point. This narrator is the worst haha
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
If you're making fun of this then does that mean many of these red flag things are normal to you??????
@@phoebeel
*Saying someone is "the worst" is what is known as "obstructive or DEstructive criticism". Apart from being mean and unhelpful, this is also a red flag for deception. If readers didn't already have reason enough to distrust phoebeel's sincerity, or ability to be forthcoming, they certainly do now. Anyone following this channel already knows this is a lie, though they are not ready to reveal the evidence just yet. What they could NOT know at the time, however, but are soon about to find out, is something...FAR more sinister than they ever could have imagined.*
@@DavidTimmonsEsq
I'm on the edge of my seat! What happened next?
Christ, these cops have no idea how to handle a victim in trauma. Shouting at her to calm down is NOT going to calm her down and then she's asking to get out of there and he's telling her she's fine. Dude!! She is NOT fine, she is in full trauma flight mode and needs to get as far away from this place and her abuser as possible. The implication that she's hysterical (without reason) is appalling. She IS hysterical but for a very good reason.
Is it you people never encounter evil or something? Woefully ignorant on what it takes to survive encounters with the crazy degenerates we all pretend dont exist.
The most common tactic predators use to avoid consequences is to masquerade as some type of victim or incontinent person. Notice this lady who is clearly in on the entire operation didnt hesitate to turn over her partner and make it seem as if she was a victim to? Its the goto.
They are always crazy and always have heartouching stories of victimization or some other bs. Why? They make lack all the same emotions that most people have for whatever reason but they know we have them. Why wouldn't they use them?
So as someone who has the job of being in the cross hairs on a daily bases does it not make sense they dont start treating anyone as a victim until the victims are actually found? Notice the children were handled immediately with care and compassion, because the chances that one of them are responsible for any gnarly situations or will attempt to manipulate actual victims into silence is extremely low.
Yeah the cops made a balls of the whole thing.
She is probably the furthest thing I've seen from a victim.
@@I_PLEDGE_ALLEGIANCEI think they're talking about Amanda, the one who was kept in the house and beat and r-ped
This thing was so f^^^^d up you don't know who is guilty or innocent for a while. And people die when you let your guard down.
"Escalated quickly." That is the level of calm I want all law enforcement to have.
It's videos like this that make me appreciated my sensible life choices.
Idk how ewu gets a hold of stuff like this before everyone else does but it's always the BEST CONTENT ON ALL OF RUclips .
I’ve seen this before, but ewu was much more thorough.
@@pear_jules4013 wow I'm shocked I never seen this before then.
I’ve seen this case covered on 2 other channels but this is the most realistic and detailed version. Nice job @explorewithus
I love this channel and I love the narrator's voice but the script is unbearable. 😭 Please, we don't need to be told every two seconds that what's about to happen is shocking/horrifying/twisted/evil/disturbing. It's a true crime video. That's a given.
Good point
THANK YOU! I get that he’s trying to ramp up the suspense and all, but he’s doing it poorly.
Very poorly
I gave the video a thumbs down just for that reason.
Lol, I'm glad someone said it cause GEEZ!
Victim: “I’m never gonna be the same”
Cop: “Just relax”
Carey allowed Heidi to leave the house on her own. That should tell you all you need to know.
Exactly. She was helping him and took part in the crimes.
Oh I never thot of that .
True . I was seeing her kinda as a victim “assist” for her own preservation but yeah
That puts the mail in her coffin 🫣
And she brought someone back under false pretense. She was bringing a victim back. 🤦♀️
@@Mcoulther Yea, just a demented criminal tweeker.
@@Mcoulther-that makes me think they should search everywhere in that house and the yard for others !!!
“Oh you just sat on a dead body and witnessed a massacre? Well you got warrants so you’re going to jail.”
She still has to answer for her crimes. She wouldn't have witnessed that dead body if she wasn't avoiding her punishment for her own crimes.
@@Rachel-ft2biheartless bastard…. That’s u
@@Rachel-ft2bi What???? How is her warrant connected to her having witnessed a crime? They are two very separate things.
Because she was avoiding her crimes that she witnessed it! Wouldn't it be bad if she didn't see it? @@Rachel-ft2bi
@@Rachel-ft2bino. She wouldn’t have witnessed that crime scene if she hadn’t continued to hang with people that were likely to pull her back into another arrest.
Its stunning to think that sometimes your own life can be stressful, but then you see videos like this and realise that there are just a wild spectrum of lifestyles that are outside anything you can ever imagine. How crazy some people can be.
Ain't that the truth! I couldn't relate to a single person in that story, nor did I want to!
Scary thing is, I’ve rented from people similar to those in this story. You really can’t tell what you are getting into until you are moved in and things get weird. Roommate writhing on the floor asking you to call ambulance. No, not a health problem, a drug problem. It never got as bad as this story but the potential was there. Some human lifestyles are disgusting. Even Dating Dad and his kidney stones, oblivious to the carnage.🤢
I like my life to be SIMPLE…all this is just insanity
Hey EWU, don't listen to the hate comments, ok? This is the best true crime channel I have ever seen.
Poor kids. They're going to be traumatized for the rest of their lives.
Yes...from being held at gunpoint by the police. They were sleeping prior to that...in a separate dwelling.😐
They probably have no idea what’s happening. So probably not
@@MamaTriedSoloNo, the cops dropped their guns when one of them said “watch your guns, watch your guns, watch your guns”. During a tense situation they had to be sure it was actually kids.
Well apparently the son is 17 now and currently charged with grape. Saw someone comment that.
@@goblinislandah I’m sure they’ll take into consideration that they only guns drawn on them for 5 seconds
You won't believe what I'm going to tell you in this comment section. This paragraph has only just begun, and what I'm about to write will chill you to the bone. Nobody can begin to guess the awful truth that's about to be revealed. But that's nothing compared to the shocking reality that's about to come to light.
Lol! I'm hooked now til the end! 😂
UNDERRATED COMMENT!!! But, it simply pales in comparison to the horrific truths that would soon be revealed in a harrowing way. 😂
@@housewifeuntilheaven1593 and that was only the tip of the iceberg!
It will definitely shock u to the core once the real truth, with a twist, will be chillingly revealed in a way u wouldn't expect, and won't believe.
Well? I'm waiting...🙃
I understand that she had a warrant but she should have been sent to a psych ward first not a jail cell. She was horribly traumatized and should have been able to talk with a psychiatrist first.
The system really doesn't know how to deal with drug addicts except ignore/push aside the problem until it recurs. Really doesn't help that politicians often conflate addiction with dealing, sending addicts to prisons where drug abuse is rampant and often the only refuge from the physical and mental abuse that defines a prison environment.
As a society, our sophistication in treating drug abuse is comparable to shamans treating infection with ritualistic dancing. It's performative, and more for the appeasement of wider society than anything approaching help for addicts.
Absolutely heartless
@@henryptung being an addict shouldn't effect what the law charges you with anymore than being a fat person should.... why does the ammount of food have anything to do with you committing a crime? Same with drugs... dosent matter how many drugs you do it shouldn't effect how you are charged for a crime you commited because it has literally nothing to do with it
If you rob a store do they ask how much you ate that day? Nope because it's irrelevant same with drugs lol it dosent matter how many drugs you've done it's irrelevant to what crime you commited
Imagine someone was r*aped and the judge says "well he did donate to children's hospital earlier today so we won't charge him as much" or "well he did eat 2 tubs of icecream first so we oughta go easy on them" absolutely absurd....
Don't want to be treated like a criminal? Don't do crime 😂 it's really fkn simple
I'm mentally ill , used to do lots of drugs , ive never r*aped or murdered anyone while I was high lmfao why? Am I special? Am I a superman? No I'm just not a criminal and decided to play games while I was high instead of going out crimeing
@@henryptungThey'd rather drug addicts die than actually help them. 😢 Very well put btw.
@@Cold_Cactusyou’re not equipped to speak on this. Shhhh. 🤫
I got followed home at 19 luckily I still lived with my parents so my mum could meet me off of the bus but I do always dread to think what would’ve happened had I not or if I hadn’t noticed what he was doing. These videos always make me feel so grateful
Absolute nightmare fuel right here. I hope Amanda has a full mental recovery from this one day.
For a woman getting hit in the head with a bat, she was the most on point out of all of them
@@thewhitelodgery and then she was carted off to prison which will definitely improve her mental state, love this.
@Flumpfy not that was Cynthia who had the warrant and was taken in. Amanda was not taken to jail, she was taken to the hospital and interviewed after.
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Im scrolling through my feed and see your video. I looked at the time stamp and said "No I don't have time for this I have other things to do." 52 minutes later I still haven't done my chores lol I got sucked right into this story fast.
"He was definitely dead, he shit himself" That line is wild.
before that he said "blood was squirting out of his neck I was like f**k yeah!" smh these sociopaths
Wild as hell!
@@peergynt9852 Sociopath is a bit much no, I mean, they're thinking they just killed a murderer, which turned out to be true, so there's that.
@@guyncali2 regardless on whether or not they think they killed a murderer, they technically didn't know either way just yet. It's a bizarre attitude to have about killing, doesn't always lead anywhere good.
@digitaljay95 you've never taken a life in a justified sense and that shows by your weak minded comments.
"i did not have a gun. Carey had the gun. I did not have the gun. I mean, I did have the gun." This woman's brain is messed up...
They had to be "paying" the homeowner with drugs and/or sex. He HAD to know exactly what was going on and did nothing to stop it.
even amanda said she never saw or heard of his name they were obviously keeping it a secret... it would have been too easy for heidi to try and implicate jason in some way if she could get off the hook but maybe he was just dumb and ignorant as fuck. if he knew what was going on and was a sick fuck surely he'd want to go 'see for himself' at some point. maybe they were paying him with drugs etc. still making him not bother to interfere with anything of their business
My dude was passing a kidney stone.I’ve only been constipated and didn’t know the time or who else was in the house.
@@20ZZ20 Like I said, he KNEW some nefarious shit was going on and did nothing. Dope fiend, coward, desperate for a few coins, or maybe all of the above. Either way, there's a snowball's chance in hell that he didn't know something and turned a blind eye.
Bro let some strange Methany come live in his home *WHERE HIS CHILDREN WERE ALSO LIVING* because she was hanging around a ‘safe house’? Cheeses H Rice dude, what in the ever-loving EFF would make you think this was even a remotely grand idea?
Wonder what kind of halfwit their mother is that this guy is the preferred alternative….
He’s not a dope addict. I think it’s quite obvious that he and his kids were literally the only ones that weren’t. I’m sure he suspected that they were dope addicts as folks running around the home at all hours. That’s an older house so it’s made pretty well so sound doesn’t travel as easily, it’s a mess and it’s quite large. He’s guilty of letting trash rent out a room.. that’s about it. Gotta remember how effin’ dumb these two were as this was their first go at murder (as far as we know) and they brought another person into the house who ended up sitting on their victim.. Then they let her go into a bathroom alone with what might as well of been a wormhole straight to a cop’s house.
Russell (Ravon) is hands down the best narrator on YT. I'm super glad he is with EWU. ❤
He has such a good "documentary" voice
Tallk the tallk and wallk the wallk
while i fix this bathroom with caullk
and make straight lines with challk
literally the only dude ive ever heard say Taalllk and WALLLLLK
lol someones v.a. has inflated their ego
agreed, I actually thought it wasnt a real person lol
@@TheListserve oh he's real and not AI. He's does a lot of voice overs.
Russell Archey is the voice actor for this channel; Explore with Me, not Russell Raven.
Umm Heidi has told so many lies she can’t keep up with all of them, so she redirects her frustration towards the officer because she knows she’s been caught in a lie. Heidi is guilty as charged
I don't get how Jason and his children didn't hear all the commotion and screaming going on in the house.
I guess if the screaming gets too loud they turn up the tv.
At that age when they get home they lock themselves in their bedroom. When they have earbuds in their ears, a phone in their hands and eyes on the screen, they are oblivious to what is going on around them. .
@@tommybickford4236
Given their relationship it may have already been normal for them to get into screaming matches.
@@user-jg7xp5xo7ylittle children on 3.30 AM? On theirs phone? Are you kidding me?