I watched with a child. He saw all those switches and his eyes got big. Then, he saw you reach in and hit the 8E switch on the score wheel and everything tuned on! He was so impressed. So was I ! 100 switches and you used the schematics and figured out exactly which one.... I love it!
Love the customer has left (and even protected) a lot of the signs of wear. Testament to how many people got hours of fun out of the machine before they got it. Thanks as always for the video.
The fun part is finding that last issue to make it work. You can be 55 and when it is playable and you fixed it and I am sure others will back me up you are 10 again. Redoing this is such a great hobby. Thanks for all the videos always good for learning and laughing oh and staying up way to late and being tired at work the next day.
Thanks Joe for a great explaination of this old schoool tech.. Your way of explaining is really fantastic! anyone who wants to get an understanding of EM schematics should watch this video! (regardless of the make or model.)
When you called the left flipper (G.I. on) "charming" for the homeowner, I liked that! It is charming. I have a Bally Wizard and that feature does appeal to me, for whatever reason. Your schematic troubleshooting, for the viewer, is always good. I always learn something. And the motor oiling was something I'll now remember, if I see those symptoms! Thanks for the time you put into these videos!!
I enjoy the Bally EMs from that era. And even more when their owner keep them in "player condition" not trying to pimp anything up to make it look like brand new and putting multicoloured LEDs or stuff like that. Another very good and interesting video Ron. Loved it !
Great to see this famous old Bally classic. I was actually staying with you on the trouble shooting…..300 videos later and something must have sunk in. The oil on the score motor was a great fix too. Thanks for posting.
Its refreshing Ronnie to see your excitement over Wizard. It makes me wantto live mine all over again. I had one in the 80s and i felt it was not that interesting I had a gottlieb surfer at the same time and may surfer just overshadowed it. I gives me new license to want to play it again.
Awesome video! I picked up one of these last December from an antique store. Was in pieces on the floor at the store. Bought it and wound up getting it all figured out (after spending a month tracing these extra wires in the harness that I guess were for another game Bally used the same harness for and just tucked the unused ones into the harness haha). I do remember mine had the score motor running kind of sluggish at first but it eventually started running at a normal speed again. I've only got this one and a Wiliiams Klondike but I think Wizard is my favorite of the two
When I saw the first play (before you oiled the score motor). I said to myself "that's one laid back pinball machine" lol I love that as a (what 50 year old?) machine it was taking its time to score (I imagined it had a voice, grumbling, saying 'no need to rush, i'll score ya!')... and after some love and attention its playing like a young whipper-snapper again :D. Thanks Ron, another classic repair run through.
I think that one of the charms of an old E.M. pinball machine is all of the clicks, clacks, hums, and buzzes. The sounds and vibrations all takes oneself back in time. I dare say that an old E.M. pinball machine is essentially a time machine in a certain interpretation.
@40:47 - If anyone is a regular Mustie1 watcher, the Zoom bottles are the ones that he uses to fill a carb bowl or '"dribble a little fuel down it." A lot of people ask about those. Thanks to him, I found Zoom oil at the local Ace.
New machines doing this from the 80s and 90s have 4 boards the size of an 8 x 11 sheet of paper even modern machines have decent sized boards but they also do more.
@@Gortman1 Yeah. The game logic for a game like this could easilly be implemented in a single tiny microcontroller chip, but unlike the relays of the 70s, digital logic can't drive the solenoids directly. You need beefy transistors for that and there is only so much those can be miniaturised.
@@petermichaelgreen I think you could easily fit enough TO-220 transistors onto a credit-card sized board. IMO it's probably harder to fit all the connectors for all the wires you'd need.
Awesome EM pinball! I still can’t get the Marksman 3 in 1 SAE 20 in the Netherlands😩been searching for years for a shop that ships to my address. I need it for my Recel Criterium 75 EM pinball and my Seeburg VL200!
19:23 Hi! They used to switch on rows of pinballs with the left flipper button. Is it in the same era when they used to switch them off by kicking their bottom ?
So, if I’m following the logic you laid out when pushing the start button, any time after the first ball, if you push the start button again, it should trigger the reset sequence? Even in the middle of a game? Am I looking at that right?
Typically it's more likely that the hardware in which the coil and relay pull in lever is mounted is 'loose' for some reason, most often that would be natural wear from use over time. In some situations you might be able to slightly bend some component of the coil support, or pull in lever, to remove the buzzing but it's often best to leave it as is, as you can easily make the problem worse or cause the relay to misfunction. These old EMs work as much by technical art as they do by technical design and it always pleases me that Ron approaches their repair with that sort of philosophy. The diagnosis and oiling of the motor being a good example of that.
JOE, in home position the coin relay will turn ON even if you don't put any coins in the coin chute? I thought the coin relay would only turn ON only if the coin switch was closed. It seems that the reset coil/reset coil switch can also turn ON the coin relay so you can bypass the coin chute switch and don't need to insert any coin money to keep the game turned on?
Yes the score motor is too slow. And the odd way the score reels reset is very much down to how complex this machine is- it is one of the most complex EM pinballs Bally produced.
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I watched with a child. He saw all those switches and his eyes got big. Then, he saw you reach in and hit the 8E switch on the score wheel and everything tuned on! He was so impressed. So was I ! 100 switches and you used the schematics and figured out exactly which one.... I love it!
Tell him a good education will teach him how to spell experience :) Thanks for watching!!!
E-X-P-E-E....... uhhhhh can we get back to talking about AC and DC again? I'm lost!
Love the customer has left (and even protected) a lot of the signs of wear. Testament to how many people got hours of fun out of the machine before they got it. Thanks as always for the video.
The fun part is finding that last issue to make it work. You can be 55 and when it is playable and you fixed it and I am sure others will back me up you are 10 again. Redoing this is such a great hobby. Thanks for all the videos always good for learning and laughing oh and staying up way to late and being tired at work the next day.
Got a Wizard as a Christmas present back in '81. Still have it today!
Sweet. Nice analytical approach there. Great result.
Thanks Joe for a great explaination of this old schoool tech.. Your way of explaining is really fantastic! anyone who wants to get an understanding of EM schematics should watch this video! (regardless of the make or model.)
When you called the left flipper (G.I. on) "charming" for the homeowner, I liked that! It is charming. I have a Bally Wizard and that feature does appeal to me, for whatever reason.
Your schematic troubleshooting, for the viewer, is always good. I always learn something. And the motor oiling was something I'll now remember, if I see those symptoms! Thanks for the time you put into these videos!!
I enjoy the Bally EMs from that era. And even more when their owner keep them in "player condition" not trying to pimp anything up to make it look like brand new and putting multicoloured LEDs or stuff like that. Another very good and interesting video Ron. Loved it !
great video ron glad too see another pinball repair keep them coming
Excellent Excellent Job Joe Love Your Videos
Great to see this famous old Bally classic. I was actually staying with you on the trouble shooting…..300 videos later and something must have sunk in. The oil on the score motor was a great fix too. Thanks for posting.
Thanks so much Ronnie! Appreciate it!😊
Great action. I love the sounds from these old machines
Its refreshing Ronnie to see your excitement over Wizard. It makes me wantto live mine all over again. I had one in the 80s and i felt it was not that interesting I had a gottlieb surfer at the same time and may surfer just overshadowed it. I gives me new license to want to play it again.
Awesome video! I picked up one of these last December from an antique store. Was in pieces on the floor at the store. Bought it and wound up getting it all figured out (after spending a month tracing these extra wires in the harness that I guess were for another game Bally used the same harness for and just tucked the unused ones into the harness haha). I do remember mine had the score motor running kind of sluggish at first but it eventually started running at a normal speed again. I've only got this one and a Wiliiams Klondike but I think Wizard is my favorite of the two
When I saw the first play (before you oiled the score motor). I said to myself "that's one laid back pinball machine" lol
I love that as a (what 50 year old?) machine it was taking its time to score (I imagined it had a voice, grumbling, saying 'no need to rush, i'll score ya!')... and after some love and attention its playing like a young whipper-snapper again :D.
Thanks Ron, another classic repair run through.
I've gotten to play this a few times an enjoyed it. The flipping flags are unique. Thanks for another great video.
It's so amazing. That we no the correct sound and speed. Just by listening and playing it.
Dude got a wizard for Christmas. WOW someone must of Loved U
Finally, found the pinball game I used to play way back in the late 70s in a dept. store.
I think that one of the charms of an old E.M. pinball machine is all of the clicks, clacks, hums, and buzzes. The sounds and vibrations all takes oneself back in time. I dare say that an old E.M. pinball machine is essentially a time machine in a certain interpretation.
I own 2 of these machines. Grew up playing one in the back of a pizza place. One of my favorite games
I got my Chime's out side Cabinet Sounds Fantastic ...
Sounding Good again Mate from OZ......
My all time favorite game. I remember being in a bowling alley. And I was playing this game. I was killing it. It was just 1 those awesome days
Nice that it doesn't just say "It's broke" 😁
@40:47 - If anyone is a regular Mustie1 watcher, the Zoom bottles are the ones that he uses to fill a carb bowl or '"dribble a little fuel down it." A lot of people ask about those. Thanks to him, I found Zoom oil at the local Ace.
My friend in high school had one of these in her basement - lashed it all the time!
Regarding the leveling feet- look for swivel leveling mounts. they come in lots of sizes, capacities and lengths. mcmaster-carr has lots of them.
Amazing piece of mechanical engineering. To think all that can be replace with a circuit board the size of a credit card...
New machines doing this from the 80s and 90s have 4 boards the size of an 8 x 11 sheet of paper even modern machines have decent sized boards but they also do more.
@@Gortman1 Yeah.
The game logic for a game like this could easilly be implemented in a single tiny microcontroller chip, but unlike the relays of the 70s, digital logic can't drive the solenoids directly. You need beefy transistors for that and there is only so much those can be miniaturised.
@@petermichaelgreen I think you could easily fit enough TO-220 transistors onto a credit-card sized board. IMO it's probably harder to fit all the connectors for all the wires you'd need.
Awesome EM pinball! I still can’t get the Marksman 3 in 1 SAE 20 in the Netherlands😩been searching for years for a shop that ships to my address. I need it for my Recel Criterium 75 EM pinball and my Seeburg VL200!
19:23 Hi! They used to switch on rows of pinballs with the left flipper button. Is it in the same era when they used to switch them off by kicking their bottom ?
Hey Ron!!
So, if I’m following the logic you laid out when pushing the start button, any time after the first ball, if you push the start button again, it should trigger the reset sequence? Even in the middle of a game? Am I looking at that right?
Yes that’s correct
That playfield is a perfect candidate for a hardtop
Stereo Rons
*new band name*
Now back to philco radio repair ❤
i think you could do a whole episode on the leg levers for us hardcore types
The lick relay was makung the noise. If you replace the coil on the lock relay will the 60hz humming.go away?
Typically it's more likely that the hardware in which the coil and relay pull in lever is mounted is 'loose' for some reason, most often that would be natural wear from use over time. In some situations you might be able to slightly bend some component of the coil support, or pull in lever, to remove the buzzing but it's often best to leave it as is, as you can easily make the problem worse or cause the relay to misfunction. These old EMs work as much by technical art as they do by technical design and it always pleases me that Ron approaches their repair with that sort of philosophy. The diagnosis and oiling of the motor being a good example of that.
@@Pink404 I agree with you if the bending doesn't work isn't a new coil going to be less likely to give a 60hz humm that vibrates the metal hardware ?
I think that the wear shows that someone ( the previous owner) didn't change their pinball out frequently enough. What are your thoughts ?
Yes I would agree!
Aww. No "It's broke" from Joe XD
Did he ever give you the source for the leg levers?
Industrial supply house. Those feet looks like normal adjustable stainless feet.
Ketchup or Tartare?
JOE, in home position the coin relay will turn ON even if you don't put any coins in the coin chute? I thought the coin relay would only turn ON only if the coin switch was closed. It seems that the reset coil/reset coil switch can also turn ON the coin relay so you can bypass the coin chute switch and don't need to insert any coin money to keep the game turned on?
Waiting for the day you get an ADDAMS FAMILY machine..... 😁
When your wizard isn't working bring it to the pinball (machine) wizard. He's got such a supple wrist!
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I bet the note said "it's broke"
@3:01 - Man, I am frugal and all, but I haven't ever wanted to clean and reuse my rubbers. Wait, what was the topic again?
Yes the score motor is too slow. And the odd way the score reels reset is very much down to how complex this machine is- it is one of the most complex EM pinballs Bally produced.
Those adjustable feet looks like normal industrial feet to me.
it's broke?
Thos are the shinyest leg levelers I have ever seen
That one is sure setup to the out lane.
I already know what's wrong with it. IT'S BROKE.
To me the buzzing shows its vintage
Yodelayheehoo
Blown fuses? Bad power switch ? Looks like a power problem
Transformer bad ?
As I understand it, Wizard was the first pin to have been designed from a movie.
nipple shadowing..?