Focus on becoming a whole person. That’s what holy truly means. You’re not going to get a perfect answer in a minute long short when it comes to figuring out what you want to deal with for the rest of your life. You know the answer. And this world is not ideal for relationships, but doesn’t mean you can’t find one ❤
''narcissists do not like to be challenged''. If so, that includes most people. Also, it includes insecure people, which are not necessarily narcissists.
This explains why I broke up with the sweetest, kindest, most wonderful woman. She was sexy and smart and absolutely head-over-heals and willing to do anything for me... but that was the problem. I am sometimes termpermental. I can be moody and difficult at times, and in those moments, I would run right over her. My hardness against her softness made me feel like a petulant bully, even though she never felt that way about me. Today, I'm married now to a stronger woman who doesn't put up with my crap when I'm difficult. She herself is terpermental and moody at times, and I understand that and deal with it. We contend with one another, and we have the most amazing marriage of love and respect and passion between us.
@@alexferanna Alright you are a perfect individual with no vulnerabilities so it's not ironc for you to say this and you deserve to be tested beyond belief if you have no vulnerabilities.
What does the last 3 words mean. No one deserves to be mistreated. I believe mistreated people have a low self esteem that their voice was.taken. I would like to uderstand those last 3 words.
First of all, that’s a lie. You absolutely think there’s people that don’t deserve good treatment, I don’t see you letting all the convicts out of prison. If you allow someone to continually mistreat you then you deserve it. Constantly going back to a source of pain is a choice and not holding that person accountable for their mistake is exactly why people continue to make that mistake. It’s what people are talking about when they say “victim mentality”.
@@johnd1047im going to guess you dont see Mary at all. Secondly, this was from a lecture at Harvard circa 1993. The idea of narcissim back then was that narcissistic abuse was equivalent to throwing boiling water onto a person but now the research shows it's closer to a frog who is in a pot of water on a stove and then that burner gets turned on, and because of the gradual increase in temperature, the frog's fate is death. It's too late by the time the frog actually realizes the water is hot enough to kill it. Associate that to narcissistic abuse where you substitute the frog as the victim, the water being the narcissistic tactics used to slowly kill you, and the heat source being the narcissist.
@@KendraMorganWhich is why people shouldn’t ignore stuff and then play the victim, as soon as something’s off in your spirit based on the common denominator (person w/ narcissistic tendencies). Then start asking questions - aka grappling
@MysticalDyl and just what questions do we ask? And where is this class that I need to sign up to take to find out what you know? The dark triad is very complex and until recently, there was little to no background information on how to handle it. He'll, Hare's PCL-R test was only revised within the last 20-30 years I think and it's not like I'm going to walk up to some guy I randomly meet and ask "are you extremely callous?" "Do you manipulate for personal gain?" "Do you lie?"
Right? People deserve to be exploited? Like what? So if he has a vulnerablity like crying over people's suffering he deserves getting exploited, (since he probably exploits people's suffering to earn money on it)
ya not my questions. What to do when an intrusive relative Writes you off as dead. Its too passive aggressive to tussle with. so What To Do?????? I knowvyou don't care you hear it every day. Withdrawing is not my answer. Neither is there any point to confronting. And theres nothing between. Please help i am Not acsuicidal. So no one else will ever care.
He's saying you shpuld learn from your mistakes. If you keep going back to someone who abuses you how can you keep saying its just on them? Also, if you keep going back there definitely is something wrong with you, these people can't change. Trust me.
@@Name-bn3vo Do you realize how many you would hurt if you told this to them? it's not their fault, the abuser's fault, because they have a grip around the victim and they can't help it, but heh, according you and peterson it's their own fault that they deserve to be abused for it, right? Because that mindset saves lives and noo they won't likely suicide for thiinking it's their own fault that they are in this complex situation.
@@Persion4786 You're assuming things, I never said it was their fault. But it's them that is attracted to narcissists which makes it their responsibility to get therapy to prevent this from happening in the future. It's the abuser's fault mainly, but the abused has to take responsibility for their weaknesses as well. As I said therapy but many people like to be abused as well which is fked up so they can cry about it to others because they have borderline personality disorder or they are covert narcissists themselves who actually do play the victim and enjoy being abused and people feeling sorry for them. Like how can you say I'm wrong here? Are you one of these people or something? No matter what situation you're in, you have to accept your own responsibility unless you are kidnapped or raped or something, things like that are obvious exceptions but we all have free will in other cases for fk sake get a grip.
@@Persion4786 Also if you done any amount of psychology research, you would understand that neurotypical people DO NOT tolerate abuse. Covert narcissists and borderlines will be drawn to narcissists over and over and this is why he said 'deservedly so' But you just love to hate this guy because you are likely brainwashed by left-wing politics another safe space for coverts and borderlines lol. Cmon to fk stop having strong opinions when you don't understand the subject you are making a fool of yourself to anyone with half a brain and think you sound smart, you don't.
@@gertstronkhorst2343 simple. By evaluation. You have to apply the metrics for yourself to your own situations. If you can validate the information on your own account then it stands to reason that the information does have some reliability. Does not matter where you source your information from.
@@AwkwardlyYou Of course it does. You assume people are actually smart enough for that. Also, do you have any idea how often Jordan Peterson spews demonstrable lies? Why would you trust him at all?
@@gertstronkhorst2343 im literally talking from experience. I can relate to his metrics because I often find that what he says resonates with me. Someone will ask him a question and he will give the same answer that I have in mind. In other words we have a similar way of thinking.
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A narcissist is a coward.
All my questions answered about narcissism in 30secs
Disagree a lot in relationship. It's like a filter to remove narcissist. A normal person will respect your opinion and a narcissist will fly in rage.
Push back against a narcissist and suddenly all that tough talk washes away in tears.
Nailed it
I want peace. I don't want a grappling match every day. I grapple enough at work. I must be a narcissist.
You don’t have a sophisticated view on grappling.
Yeah you do look like one :P lol
I agree . I want to get along with my folks after a tiring day at work which is like a battle field.
Focus on becoming a whole person. That’s what holy truly means. You’re not going to get a perfect answer in a minute long short when it comes to figuring out what you want to deal with for the rest of your life. You know the answer. And this world is not ideal for relationships, but doesn’t mean you can’t find one ❤
''narcissists do not like to be challenged''. If so, that includes most people. Also, it includes insecure people, which are not necessarily narcissists.
No it means what it says. He didn’t say “Only narcissists don’t like to be challenged”, he implied just that it’s a trait of narcissism.
Being Narcissist Implies do not like to be challenged.
Do not like to be challenged does not imply being narcissist.
Looking for any reason to misunderstand him huh?
This explains why I broke up with the sweetest, kindest, most wonderful woman. She was sexy and smart and absolutely head-over-heals and willing to do anything for me... but that was the problem. I am sometimes termpermental. I can be moody and difficult at times, and in those moments, I would run right over her. My hardness against her softness made me feel like a petulant bully, even though she never felt that way about me. Today, I'm married now to a stronger woman who doesn't put up with my crap when I'm difficult. She herself is terpermental and moody at times, and I understand that and deal with it. We contend with one another, and we have the most amazing marriage of love and respect and passion between us.
If you can be this specific about a partner your rizz game must be good?
What does he mean by “perhaps deservedly so?”
Exactly what he said. If you keep cutting yourself, it’s not the knifes fault you keep picking it up and slicing.
@lAcid Rainl thank you🙏
@@johnd1047 Not so easy when your married and have kids, and a property together though..
it’s based off an old machivellian trope; meaning if you have a vulnerability, you deserve to have it exploited.
@@alexferanna Alright you are a perfect individual with no vulnerabilities so it's not ironc for you to say this and you deserve to be tested beyond belief if you have no vulnerabilities.
Yes
Omg this is totally someone i know. I hate that shit so much. But i tolerate him still
What does the last 3 words mean. No one deserves to be mistreated. I believe mistreated people have a low self esteem that their voice was.taken. I would like to uderstand those last 3 words.
First of all, that’s a lie. You absolutely think there’s people that don’t deserve good treatment, I don’t see you letting all the convicts out of prison. If you allow someone to continually mistreat you then you deserve it. Constantly going back to a source of pain is a choice and not holding that person accountable for their mistake is exactly why people continue to make that mistake. It’s what people are talking about when they say “victim mentality”.
@@johnd1047im going to guess you dont see Mary at all. Secondly, this was from a lecture at Harvard circa 1993. The idea of narcissim back then was that narcissistic abuse was equivalent to throwing boiling water onto a person but now the research shows it's closer to a frog who is in a pot of water on a stove and then that burner gets turned on, and because of the gradual increase in temperature, the frog's fate is death. It's too late by the time the frog actually realizes the water is hot enough to kill it. Associate that to narcissistic abuse where you substitute the frog as the victim, the water being the narcissistic tactics used to slowly kill you, and the heat source being the narcissist.
@@KendraMorganWhich is why people shouldn’t ignore stuff and then play the victim, as soon as something’s off in your spirit based on the common denominator (person w/ narcissistic tendencies). Then start asking questions - aka grappling
@MysticalDyl and just what questions do we ask? And where is this class that I need to sign up to take to find out what you know? The dark triad is very complex and until recently, there was little to no background information on how to handle it. He'll, Hare's PCL-R test was only revised within the last 20-30 years I think and it's not like I'm going to walk up to some guy I randomly meet and ask "are you extremely callous?" "Do you manipulate for personal gain?" "Do you lie?"
Fuck I learning how to be this.. like know usually to be nice, nownjust gonna be me and how I would want future self to work
Does Jordy boy like to be challenged? 😂
I don't know anything psychology says about narcissim they are Vampires.
I was a pushover😢
what does he mean deservedly
Right? People deserve to be exploited? Like what? So if he has a vulnerablity like crying over people's suffering he deserves getting exploited, (since he probably exploits people's suffering to earn money on it)
Ex wife
ya not my questions. What to do when an intrusive relative Writes you off as dead. Its too passive aggressive to tussle with. so What To Do?????? I knowvyou don't care you hear it every day. Withdrawing is not my answer. Neither is there any point to confronting. And theres nothing between. Please help i am Not acsuicidal. So no one else will ever care.
Deservertly so! You are Nutz
He's saying you shpuld learn from your mistakes. If you keep going back to someone who abuses you how can you keep saying its just on them? Also, if you keep going back there definitely is something wrong with you, these people can't change. Trust me.
@@Name-bn3vo Do you realize how many you would hurt if you told this to them? it's not their fault, the abuser's fault, because they have a grip around the victim and they can't help it, but heh, according you and peterson it's their own fault that they deserve to be abused for it, right? Because that mindset saves lives and noo they won't likely suicide for thiinking it's their own fault that they are in this complex situation.
@@Persion4786
You're assuming things, I never said it was their fault. But it's them that is attracted to narcissists which makes it their responsibility to get therapy to prevent this from happening in the future. It's the abuser's fault mainly, but the abused has to take responsibility for their weaknesses as well. As I said therapy but many people like to be abused as well which is fked up so they can cry about it to others because they have borderline personality disorder or they are covert narcissists themselves who actually do play the victim and enjoy being abused and people feeling sorry for them. Like how can you say I'm wrong here? Are you one of these people or something? No matter what situation you're in, you have to accept your own responsibility unless you are kidnapped or raped or something, things like that are obvious exceptions but we all have free will in other cases for fk sake get a grip.
@@Persion4786
Also if you done any amount of psychology research, you would understand that neurotypical people DO NOT tolerate abuse.
Covert narcissists and borderlines will be drawn to narcissists over and over and this is why he said 'deservedly so'
But you just love to hate this guy because you are likely brainwashed by left-wing politics another safe space for coverts and borderlines lol. Cmon to fk stop having strong opinions when you don't understand the subject you are making a fool of yourself to anyone with half a brain and think you sound smart, you don't.
@@Name-bn3vo ok you won I'm wrong
Says the man who doesn't like to be challenged.
If you're getting the information you need does it really matter where it comes from?
@@AwkwardlyYou How do you determine if the information is reliable when you don't care where it comes from?
@@gertstronkhorst2343 simple. By evaluation. You have to apply the metrics for yourself to your own situations. If you can validate the information on your own account then it stands to reason that the information does have some reliability. Does not matter where you source your information from.
@@AwkwardlyYou Of course it does. You assume people are actually smart enough for that. Also, do you have any idea how often Jordan Peterson spews demonstrable lies? Why would you trust him at all?
@@gertstronkhorst2343 im literally talking from experience. I can relate to his metrics because I often find that what he says resonates with me. Someone will ask him a question and he will give the same answer that I have in mind. In other words we have a similar way of thinking.
This is Trump and Melania 😂
JP talking about others being narcissistic is rich.