if you embrace the urge, become bhaal's chosen and are then confronted by jaheira, minsc and the harpners outside the temple, you can make a wisdom check to mindcontrol minsc and make him kill jaheira. that is also very messed up.
“The death of a child, a timeless tragedy that never grows old” I love every part of this, her voice, the way she says it and how much fun she seems to be having with it, what a great narrator they gave us 😍
I think what I dislike about the Alfira encounter is that she ONLY shows up to join your camp if you're the dark urge. It makes it feel so manufactured in that way.
I feel like forcing the goblins to literally split themselves in half making is way more disturbing than choking them especially with the look on their face when they start grabbing their daggers.
In Bioware games, I would go through the "evil" playthrough but just realized that renegade options in Mass Effect or turning into a Dark Jedi in KOTOR is nowhere near as "evil" as the options presented to you in Baldur's Gate 3. I'm thinking of having a "bad guy" playthrough for this game but I really don't have the stomach for it if these are the choices presented to you. It's not just evil but sadistic. Baldur's Gate 3 is truly one of a kind...it lets you become a complete monster.
1) The Good playthrough 2) The "I don´t give a F*" choices 3) The Evil one 4) And the Dark Urge route/origin Also 5) Kill Everything run 6) The Tadpole way Just a few ideas, because really, with the exception of a few Dark Urge moments, you can make your own choices on anything.
and i loved Bioware's "evil route", because they weren't even "evil" at all, they were all about moral-ambiguity. Tons of very immoral choices you could make in thoses games, but the point was that the story justified most of them, it wasn't just being evil for being evil. in Dragon-Age: Origin, but they were all in favour of the story, you knew helping blood-mages was a bad idea, but at they were powerful and you needed powerful allies. same could be said about Mass-Effect, there's a reason why the morality system wasn't "good versus bad" but "paragon versus pragmatic". because it wasn't about being a big bad man or superhero, it was about either making choices that could challenge morality for reasons with actual justifications, or following a extremely strict moral-code even if it was at your disadvantage or could have consequences in the future. Mordin Solus didn't sterelize the krogans because he was a sadist, he did because they represented a major threat for the galaxy and needed to be stopped. and when the opportunity to stop the effects of said sterelization rise, it's a matter of moral-ambiguity whether it's a good choice or not. sure it would be the moral thing to do to cure them and they would help in return, but who's to say in somes thousands of years they wouldn't get back to their old bad way? i hate BG3 moral choices, because they're very, very, very manicheen. either you're a hero, a champion of the people who find the right and best solution to every single problems, terminating every threats and saving every innocents, or you're a truly despicable creature that need to go out of it's way to make the most vile choices possibles just out of sadism at the cost of absolutely everyone. either you help and save everyone and get to meet them again and again later on making sure you will find all the content you can get from the game, or you're a big bad man and you get a insignificiant bonus once in a while at the cost of everything else, including quests you won't be able to fulfill without somes NPCs. */!\ SPOILERS FOR ACT 2* i think the moment i realized that BG3 had the one of the shittiest moral-ambiguity in it's choice was when you're met with the Nightsong in Act-2. either you make the right choice, and everything goes perfectly well without any efforts or consequences, beside the events with the house of grief in Act 3, or you make the wrong choice and literally everyone else dies and the following fights are much harders. clearly the story has envisionned a certain way you should play play the game, and anything else is wrong, or only there to feed sadism. it's like Larian didn't even understand why someone would want to see Shadowheart commit to her goddess, or Asterion become a ascended Vampire beside stats. and it's even more ridiculous considering Shadowheart gets buffs anyway in Act 3 even if she betray Shar, so really there's no reason to choose anything else but free Nightsong.
I think it's a bit more interesting that you can actively resist the Dark Urge and that (I think) it presents you with a Wisdom save to do so. This way it makes the idea of doing terribly evil stuff way more interesting, as it's not up to you anymore, you can do your best to be good but still end up as a monster! I plan on playing Dark Urge and TRY to resist every urge, without Save Scumming the saves just so I can roleplay what it's like to be this "tragic villain" type.
@@heyfell4301 The thing for me is that I’m nearing Act 2 and so far I can simply not choose the options that are dark urge related and, outside of being forced to kill the bard (which has no resist option), it’s like I’m barely even having to resist at all. I wanted it to force me to kill people, making me roll for whatever so I don’t kill them. That would be fun. Not just letting me either choosing completely whether I want to kill or not, or being made to kill with no saving throws for inconsequential killings. Like, I want it to force me more.
There's another one, and guess what, it's another tiefling. Also a child. In the druid grove there's a region where you can hear something singing, which turns out to be a bunch of harpies, trying to lure a child and probably have a delicious dinner with his young tender meat. You can step in and try to save the child (the fight is a little bit nasty, but nothing too hard), watch the child die, or, if you're Dark Urge, drown the living hells out of him
I never got the drowning option. How did you get that? I know Durge mentions their favorite drownings in shallow water, but they never actually do it to the kid - because there is no option.
Worst decision was killing the pixie in the lantern and then killing Isobel shortly after, I literally got stuck couldn't reach moonrise towers because I didn't have a lantern or blessing the portal in the tower was not yet discovered😂
it can not be an accident that you omited probably the most painful one that happens if you dont kill Isobel. That one is ten time worst that force chocking some goblins.
@@ZlyLudekPL Spoilers, obviously, but if you have a romance interest by that point in the game (idk what happens if you don't) and you choose to mostly resist the Urge and don't kill Isobel, you get a forewarning from Sceleritas Fel that the next time you go to sleep, you will choke the absolute shit out of your lover. The only way to avoid this, as far as I'm aware, is to make them aware that it'll happen so they tie you up and then make like, 3 WIS checks in dialogue.
@@ergergergalyeah, I immediately changed my class to a wisdom based one when I saw the first test in act1 was a wis one. that definitely saved my lover when it happened
You can avoid it. But it has like a dozen of savings checks... it's...intense... Was on the edge of my seat the whole time, and felt relief like almost never before when we both saw dawn come up that morning... Really intense. I'm fearful what will it be like next time... (Ye I'm slow, I'm a beginner, and I like to do...well, everything isn't possible in this game, but as much as possible)🎋 We'll never play BG3 for the first time ever again, it's a unique experience, I'm not gonna rush it, because other people feel like they have to (It's more than 3 wisdom checks, ...jeez, it felt neverending, just feeling like a true nightmare, well done Larian!!)
I love this game. I thought that Minthara was just an overly evil character, but after you do the deed with her she immediately reveals herself to be way more complex character than that. Chefs kiss
Something I wish this game didn't do so much of, to be honest. Why can't I just be a good homie to my homies? Especially since you can (mostly) only romance one of them.
If I ever play as a Dark Urge I want to play it just like that one vine. “Hey what do you want to eat?” THE SOULS OF THE INNOCENT! “A bagel.” NO!!! “Two bagels.”
I did something unintentional with the Pixie: I did not examine the lantern but used it as a melee weapon a few times, then when I tried to examine, well, you can already imagine the outcome xD
See is exactly why I seek out spoilers sometimes lol So I can gauge whether or not I can stomach something. I'll probably still play a few Durge playthroughs even after seeing this, it's only fiction after all, but I'm glad to know what I'm getting into.
I was thinking this when it came up in the video, as I was doing a "save everyone" playthrough and I was sure I still got the option to choke them. It just had different text for the option, and possibly a check of some kind.
@@theravyneffect3610 nah there's no check. The text says "Not a word from you. In fact, not a breath from you" and they just get choked to death. It's one of the moments that surprised me because I've been basically 100% morally good the whole game, to the point that Wyll proposed to me even when I had barely ever had him in my party. And then I chose that option thinking it was just to tell them to shut up while I trought of something. But no, Tav just smiles, does some magic and holds them in the air till they die.
@@jpaguilarltbf that is still a logical choice to make in a good run you don’t want to jeopardise your cover after. I’ve done it in both my good playthroughs.
I don’t know why but I can never play these evil play through. I’m happy they exist for those that do and the effort they put into the design. I just feel too much empathy for this stuff.
I 100% agree with you, an evil playthrough just doesn't seem worth it to me. Maybe it's because the character design is so good that even the NPC's have me feeling for them
1:38 “Astarion Approves” Oh my god. The things I have to do for this man to love me. I could fix him, but honestly, whatever the hell is wrong with him is way funnier 4:52 “IF you accept her offer” you deadass have no option not to. You either attack her or allow her to stay. I tried till the very end to get her to leave until I only had “attack” and “allow her to stay” left 😭
@@garrettord3304 It's actually 10000% avoidable. Funnily enough it's so avoidable that the poor girl that shows up in her place if you save her gets butchered and every single time it's happened in my game no one cares. You get the choice to expose your misdeeds and make it clear you murdered the bard and in the morning your allies notice the body and start dialogue about it, but for some reason that doesn't happen. It does with Alfira but her replacement if you save her doesn't trigger that in my game, Shadowheart literally walks over her body and she's just left in a pool of blood. No idea if it's a glitch or something but it's kind of hilarious.
I'm on my first playthrough still and I love playing as the Dark Urge (still in act 1, my save file got corrupted twice because steam updates (mods didn't work with the new update) (my second playthrough will be only QOL mods) spoilers ahead (?) As the Dark Urge I initially tried to kill the rogue after he tried to knife me, but eventually revived him. I actually had a pretty good bond with him. I was a bit iffy on the Cleric. But she is warming up to the Party, but the Gith, she needs to go. My final party member will be the Drow Paladin. As the Durge I'm struggling to not murder the ones I love. Like on some Hulk Type Shit. Choose to be dragonborn moon druid because of the Shapeshifting. The two boons later on are going to be very favorable. Very chaotic *stupid* not necessarily good or evil. Like I tried to get the tieflings out but my character fell in love with Minthra (though it wasn't until my 2nd time I met her that I realized she's a bitch, but the Dark Urge is a double agent doing a little bit of good and a little bit of bad okay a lot of bad, and because I'm saying yes to a lot of quest the rogue (in joker make up) gets mad at me. I can't wait until he drinks my blood again
I just finished the Urge quest line while fighting it the whole way, either route you pick I 100% think the urge is the cannon MC. The whole quest line is amazing. So many great moments and times.
Oh boi, I want to do the Dark Urge Playthrough on my next campaign 😈 My Dark Urge Character Playthrough: *Be the most nicest character because mean dialogue makes me feel bad*
I killed the cat by accident, didn't realize that's what was going to happen. For some reason mama Karlach approved though, and got inspiration from it
I got to ten, was already sick to my stomach and then you're like "if you're a cat lover like me" and I knew exactly where you were going with this, and I want no part in it.
I accidentally found that option in my last playthrough, and I loved it. The options that allow your character to kill subconsciously after doing/thinking about something seemingly innocent allows an otherwise good-aligned Dark Urge to convincingly let his control slip. It makes his story more satisfying when the game reminds you that his urge is a constant threat that he must overcome; keeps the stakes high.
Love Dark Urge, given what it truly is. Still, some answers to game questions I haven't seen around even on youtube yet. May take a look at the many choices myself in next runs, plan to record. won't have commentary though.
I'm not yet playing Baldur's Gate 3, but from what I've seen of it, sound's like something on the level of Witcher 3, but being able to be whoever you can be. And Dark Urge sounds like having Palpatine be your moral compass and constantly saying: Do it! And I intend to do it!
Just saying what rumors and hearsay I've seen and heard. Pretty much all say this is the best game that came out this year or so, if not more@@drasyte7017
@@drasyte7017highly debatable, witcher 3 combat is nothing special, and though the writing overall is strong, the last act of the witcher is almost universally considered weak.
@@AlesSimoncia the witcher 3 combat is nothing special but that always better than the turn per turn... (literally i'm bored to fight in BG3 somost of the time i avoid them) yeah, last act of the witcher 3 is weak but last act of BG3 is meh so... Tbh the good point of BG3 is the multiplayer mode (even if the game is better when you play solo, that still good to have)
I've not played through yet...char creation hell for me...but I've got my own theories about the Dark Urge, knowing BG 1 and 2, and feel like going Dark Urge and True Soul together would be a match made in Khalas.
This is not the worst thing that the DU can do. Perhaps the most terrible scene can be in the temple of Baal, if you have Minsk and Jaheira in your group, and you have decided to become the chosen of Baal. I won't write spoilers, but my poor heart was broken :c
@@Champion_of_Vlaakith For those who are still playing, SPOILERS AHEAD . . . . . . After you become the chosen one, Jaheira and Minsk turn against you, DU can take control of Minsks tadpole and force him to kill Jaheira. And then remove the control so he could see what he had done before killing him as well.
@@RikiTwikyoh fuck during my DU playthough I did not save Minsc because I only wanted the DU achievements, but killing Jaheira there already made me, want to end the game asap. The choice you said is just too fucking unsettling, even just hearing about it.
That's great you can take Gill's hand. As a non dark-urge character, I just teased him and stinged him along until he left the party. Maiming him is so much more satisfying though.
Fun fact, the bard you kill isn’t always the tiefling. If you wipe out the emerald grove before this event triggers then a different bard will show up. I’ve had a silver Dragonborn in one play through where I was very efficient.
It's important to note that you 100% can choose not to do any of this. There are exactly 2 times in a durge playthrough where something terrible will happen but imo it's canon that you resist the urges every other time. The durge is just so well tied into the main plot and characters that it *really* seems like this is the canon playthrough. I made the mistake of doing a durge playthrough as my first and regret it because every other Tav just feels less interesting and relevant
I like to be edgy sometimes, bordering on evil.. mostly if its funny but these options.. like killing children is something I couldn't do. Even in a game.
Being evil in this game is pure morbid joy. You sacrifice some potential good loot and certain companies for some of the best Evil Roleplay ive ever seen in a video game. Lots of people claim the sacrifices arent worth it but they are oh so wrong. Raiding the Tieflings like psychopathic warlord? *chefs kiss*
The Alfira thing fucked me up hard and in every dark urge run I've done since I've always made it a point to spare alfira by having one of my companions bonk her into unconsciousness
Most evil and disturbing choice for me was tricking Minsc into killing Jahiera. Having the option to literally break an old protagonist charecters soul by making him kill his beloved partner was pure evil, especially hearing Minsc scream of rage/pain when he realises what he just did.
I'm almost done with my first playthrough as an almost good character. I've done everything good except for letting Astarian become vampire lord because the buffs & spells he gets are insane
dark urge is just basically Drow, unless you go with the dark maiden over Lolth. anyone who want to play a real drow(who is blue instead of obsidian black like they all are) should use dark urge as that is basically all of those who follow Lolth
Lolth is insane, but those serving her rarely are. Self-serving and ambitious is not the same as psychotic stupid, which the Dark Urge influence seems to be.
Despite following Llolth Drow society has a strong hierarchy and has much Order around it... the Chaos of llolth comes in, with all the intrigues and backstabbing that happens in that Society. It's Basically being Sith in the Sith Empire. Authoritarian and about Order, while the Members of that Empire are Chaotic.
Not sure at this point if I'll get an answer to this, but I'm obsessed with the look of your PC. The scaling around the eyes. Is that a mod? Cause I don't see it as an option on the PS5 version.
I wouldn't call Alfira a choice given that it's unavoidable (no, using 'disguise self' to knock her unconscious and kill a placeholder tiefling instead does *not* count, the placeholder may not sing nor give you a nice cape, but they're still someone you kill)
poor Gobbos. I always allow them to live ... if they would defeat me. Wyll even approves of it, apparently I am being quite fair. Never mind them being one-hit. 3 lvl 1 gobbos against 4 level 8 chars, that is of no consequence :P
Even if you tell Aphra to leave you still find and kill her, unless you kill her before hand this is an unstoppable kill after the latest patch, as the dark urge you need to kill her in order to progress the DU story properly weather you’re resisting or giving in.
you can actually kill Isobel at the start of act 3, but you need to put Nightsong to sleep or something so she wouldn't attack you and then you get the spawn form anyway
To choke the goblins is also available if you are not the Durge. In addition to that, you forgot another terrible Durge Choices like sacrificing your lover to Bhaal
I resist Dark Urge so i end up killing Lae'zel @@ That's disturbing so i have to load back and kill Isobel instead , after that i got The Slayer transformation skill
Sorry, how is the squirrel you meet in the grove not on here? It's shocking because it can be one of the very first moments the urge spills out that it catches the player off guard. It sure fucking caught me off guard.
I have only made it to Isabel as the dark urge. It was my first playthrough. I already killed Jahira at the gate because, by that part in the game, my character had already gone full dark side, and she annoyed her, so my character chose to wipe out the whole village for the lols. After that, I slept and got the quest to kill Isabel. I found Isabel on the inn's second floor not long after and got a choice to kill her outright. I chose it, and when I saw the sky dissolve like that, I was like, O_o "Oh, I done f**ked up. I done f**ked up real good." I'm not joking. That's what I really said out loud when I saw that, and I never cus. I know it's fantasy, and most Islamic scholars say video games are fine as long as you realize that they are just fantasy and you play in moderation, but when it made me cus, I decided to create a new character. Someone nicer. 😅
the cat Steelclaw, for me after a choice as dark urge and after the red screen it showed infront of my character, dark urge. while still in dialog. maybe have to pick one of the other reaction line? dead kitty in front of you then. one cat can't save no matter what do for end game, Grub. kitty is flagged as necessary for part of end game to trigger properly :( Before Hotfix 5, saved before but attempted with a mod to save Grub & Yenna (both and just Grub) from the what to come, when go down the cellar door to sewer that door where false Yenna comes through if have every party member, doesn't trigger and instead loads you into a "Debug" Room. D: Poor kitties, rather! Grub is properly unkillable, even if cat early on hostiles on you. Other cats apparently can be killed outside of dialog.
fella said "can't wait" everyone has different tastes, some likes being spoiled, some don't.. you seem to have a very short temper for one positive comment my guy @@chase5298
For me the worst durge decision so far was when I was trying to remember my past when talking to the cat at moonrise and I stomped on her and killed her leaving a pile of blood 😪
I still think that killing gale is a good choice. He is useless if he remains pure wizard and also can't seat without his drags for five freaking minutes
if you embrace the urge, become bhaal's chosen and are then confronted by jaheira, minsc and the harpners outside the temple, you can make a wisdom check to mindcontrol minsc and make him kill jaheira. that is also very messed up.
“The death of a child, a timeless tragedy that never grows old”
I love every part of this, her voice, the way she says it and how much fun she seems to be having with it, what a great narrator they gave us 😍
to be fair killing children won't make them age so yeat it never grow old
She is a Satan worshipper, so no surprise she has no qualms talking about the death of a child.
Astarion approving most of it is wild 💀💀
That's why I hate him lol I feel like I'm the only one but Astarion is super toxic, makes me uncomfortable.
It's so funny to me. And then he gets mad af if you roast him.
@@lyumee836Im not gonna defend him But have you seen astarions story? It explains Why he is like that
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I like it, gives me someone to romance in evil playthroughs.
But his ass still attacked me when the butler forced me to kill my love interest lol
I think what I dislike about the Alfira encounter is that she ONLY shows up to join your camp if you're the dark urge. It makes it feel so manufactured in that way.
you can keep her even as dark urge :) nothing is manufactured
@@jiripekny3905 Not in your camp
@@jibblecaineveryone commenting here is literally a simpleton you don't have to be darker to get her you just have to go against the tiefling
@@jibblecain I have her in my camp as the dark urge. But to be fair, she is in a chest.
@@OhHeBustin”everyone is a simpleton” coming from the guy who didnt even bother to formulate a coherent sentence.
I feel like forcing the goblins to literally split themselves in half making is way more disturbing than choking them especially with the look on their face when they start grabbing their daggers.
I agree :|
I think making the goblins draw you a bath of their own blood is much darker than simply strangling them to death.
I mean they literally start cutting themselves open so yeah pretty dark.
In Bioware games, I would go through the "evil" playthrough but just realized that renegade options in Mass Effect or turning into a Dark Jedi in KOTOR is nowhere near as "evil" as the options presented to you in Baldur's Gate 3. I'm thinking of having a "bad guy" playthrough for this game but I really don't have the stomach for it if these are the choices presented to you. It's not just evil but sadistic. Baldur's Gate 3 is truly one of a kind...it lets you become a complete monster.
1) The Good playthrough
2) The "I don´t give a F*" choices
3) The Evil one
4) And the Dark Urge route/origin
Also
5) Kill Everything run
6) The Tadpole way
Just a few ideas, because really, with the exception of a few Dark Urge moments, you can make your own choices on anything.
and i loved Bioware's "evil route", because they weren't even "evil" at all, they were all about moral-ambiguity.
Tons of very immoral choices you could make in thoses games, but the point was that the story justified most of them, it wasn't just being evil for being evil.
in Dragon-Age: Origin, but they were all in favour of the story,
you knew helping blood-mages was a bad idea, but at they were powerful and you needed powerful allies.
same could be said about Mass-Effect, there's a reason why the morality system wasn't "good versus bad" but "paragon versus pragmatic".
because it wasn't about being a big bad man or superhero, it was about either making choices that could challenge morality for reasons with actual justifications,
or following a extremely strict moral-code even if it was at your disadvantage or could have consequences in the future.
Mordin Solus didn't sterelize the krogans because he was a sadist, he did because they represented a major threat for the galaxy and needed to be stopped.
and when the opportunity to stop the effects of said sterelization rise, it's a matter of moral-ambiguity whether it's a good choice or not.
sure it would be the moral thing to do to cure them and they would help in return, but who's to say in somes thousands of years they wouldn't get back to their old bad way?
i hate BG3 moral choices, because they're very, very, very manicheen.
either you're a hero, a champion of the people who find the right and best solution to every single problems, terminating every threats and saving every innocents,
or you're a truly despicable creature that need to go out of it's way to make the most vile choices possibles just out of sadism at the cost of absolutely everyone.
either you help and save everyone and get to meet them again and again later on making sure you will find all the content you can get from the game,
or you're a big bad man and you get a insignificiant bonus once in a while at the cost of everything else, including quests you won't be able to fulfill without somes NPCs.
*/!\ SPOILERS FOR ACT 2*
i think the moment i realized that BG3 had the one of the shittiest moral-ambiguity in it's choice was when you're met with the Nightsong in Act-2.
either you make the right choice, and everything goes perfectly well without any efforts or consequences, beside the events with the house of grief in Act 3,
or you make the wrong choice and literally everyone else dies and the following fights are much harders.
clearly the story has envisionned a certain way you should play play the game, and anything else is wrong, or only there to feed sadism.
it's like Larian didn't even understand why someone would want to see Shadowheart commit to her goddess, or Asterion become a ascended Vampire beside stats.
and it's even more ridiculous considering Shadowheart gets buffs anyway in Act 3 even if she betray Shar, so really there's no reason to choose anything else but free Nightsong.
I think it's a bit more interesting that you can actively resist the Dark Urge and that (I think) it presents you with a Wisdom save to do so. This way it makes the idea of doing terribly evil stuff way more interesting, as it's not up to you anymore, you can do your best to be good but still end up as a monster!
I plan on playing Dark Urge and TRY to resist every urge, without Save Scumming the saves just so I can roleplay what it's like to be this "tragic villain" type.
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The thing for me is that I’m nearing Act 2 and so far I can simply not choose the options that are dark urge related and, outside of being forced to kill the bard (which has no resist option), it’s like I’m barely even having to resist at all. I wanted it to force me to kill people, making me roll for whatever so I don’t kill them. That would be fun.
Not just letting me either choosing completely whether I want to kill or not, or being made to kill with no saving throws for inconsequential killings. Like, I want it to force me more.
You can wipe out entire races in Mass Effect
There is also a squirrel in the groove, that bites your feet if you try talking to it. Dark Urge just kick it like a football player.
I just murdered my romance character and my entire (fully geared) party.... jesus that was a hard figth.... being evil is exhausting
"hey withers, cook me up a new party. My other party kinda.....died"
How that escalated to a full party murder?
@@BioMatic2 they want to put you down
There's another one, and guess what, it's another tiefling. Also a child. In the druid grove there's a region where you can hear something singing, which turns out to be a bunch of harpies, trying to lure a child and probably have a delicious dinner with his young tender meat. You can step in and try to save the child (the fight is a little bit nasty, but nothing too hard), watch the child die, or, if you're Dark Urge, drown the living hells out of him
The harpies are trying to have a delicious dinner with his young, tender, red flesh? 😂😂 my dude you are a funny guy
Really? I've played that bit as durge twice and never got the option
I never got the drowning option. How did you get that? I know Durge mentions their favorite drownings in shallow water, but they never actually do it to the kid - because there is no option.
i never got that option 🤨
Worst decision was killing the pixie in the lantern and then killing Isobel shortly after, I literally got stuck couldn't reach moonrise towers because I didn't have a lantern or blessing the portal in the tower was not yet discovered😂
Should’ve reloaded the last save
got me wondering if we can pickpocket karniss' lantern
You can kill karniss for his, you will find him roaming around the dark woods and u can jump him lol and I set his pixie free for me
You can find one in Balthazars hidden chambers
You should kill Isobel after getting a lantern not before(Balthazar’s room, just talk to the orc lady and you’ll get acess to it
Man I really don't have the stomach for these kinds of playthrus. Glad to have these videos.
it can not be an accident that you omited probably the most painful one that happens if you dont kill Isobel. That one is ten time worst that force chocking some goblins.
Could you elaborate? I must have missed that on my dark urge playthrough :(.
@@ZlyLudekPL Spoilers, obviously, but if you have a romance interest by that point in the game (idk what happens if you don't) and you choose to mostly resist the Urge and don't kill Isobel, you get a forewarning from Sceleritas Fel that the next time you go to sleep, you will choke the absolute shit out of your lover. The only way to avoid this, as far as I'm aware, is to make them aware that it'll happen so they tie you up and then make like, 3 WIS checks in dialogue.
I'm glad I played a Druid, those wisdom checks saved Karlach.
@@ergergergalyeah, I immediately changed my class to a wisdom based one when I saw the first test in act1 was a wis one.
that definitely saved my lover when it happened
You can avoid it.
But it has like a dozen of savings checks... it's...intense...
Was on the edge of my seat the whole time, and felt relief like almost never before when we both saw dawn come up that morning...
Really intense. I'm fearful what will it be like next time...
(Ye I'm slow, I'm a beginner, and I like to do...well, everything isn't possible in this game, but as much as possible)🎋
We'll never play BG3 for the first time ever again, it's a unique experience, I'm not gonna rush it, because other people feel like they have to
(It's more than 3 wisdom checks, ...jeez, it felt neverending, just feeling like a true nightmare, well done Larian!!)
I love this game. I thought that Minthara was just an overly evil character, but after you do the deed with her she immediately reveals herself to be way more complex character than that. Chefs kiss
It's hard to reveal herself with broken neck
Something I wish this game didn't do so much of, to be honest. Why can't I just be a good homie to my homies? Especially since you can (mostly) only romance one of them.
If I ever play as a Dark Urge I want to play it just like that one vine.
“Hey what do you want to eat?”
THE SOULS OF THE INNOCENT!
“A bagel.”
NO!!!
“Two bagels.”
I did something unintentional with the Pixie: I did not examine the lantern but used it as a melee weapon a few times, then when I tried to examine, well, you can already imagine the outcome xD
See is exactly why I seek out spoilers sometimes lol
So I can gauge whether or not I can stomach something. I'll probably still play a few Durge playthroughs even after seeing this, it's only fiction after all, but I'm glad to know what I'm getting into.
Just as a tiny note, the force choking thing is also standard, the dialogue option is just a little less DIE DIE DIE
Is "run me a bath" too?
@@digitaldevil696 I don't think so
I was thinking this when it came up in the video, as I was doing a "save everyone" playthrough and I was sure I still got the option to choke them. It just had different text for the option, and possibly a check of some kind.
@@theravyneffect3610 nah there's no check. The text says "Not a word from you. In fact, not a breath from you" and they just get choked to death.
It's one of the moments that surprised me because I've been basically 100% morally good the whole game, to the point that Wyll proposed to me even when I had barely ever had him in my party. And then I chose that option thinking it was just to tell them to shut up while I trought of something. But no, Tav just smiles, does some magic and holds them in the air till they die.
@@jpaguilarltbf that is still a logical choice to make in a good run you don’t want to jeopardise your cover after. I’ve done it in both my good playthroughs.
I don’t know why but I can never play these evil play through. I’m happy they exist for those that do and the effort they put into the design. I just feel too much empathy for this stuff.
I 100% agree with you, an evil playthrough just doesn't seem worth it to me. Maybe it's because the character design is so good that even the NPC's have me feeling for them
I can't belive they put Solas' brother in this game 😱😱😱😱
Ikr 😂
lol now i know why hes familiar 😂😂😂
Dont disrespect my first in-game romance/trauma like that!
1:38 “Astarion Approves”
Oh my god. The things I have to do for this man to love me. I could fix him, but honestly, whatever the hell is wrong with him is way funnier
4:52 “IF you accept her offer” you deadass have no option not to. You either attack her or allow her to stay. I tried till the very end to get her to leave until I only had “attack” and “allow her to stay” left 😭
You don’t have to be evil to get Astarion to love you. I was a bard in my last playthrough who went around saving most people and he still loved me .
5:01 Alfira should had been an actual companion because shes like the only Bard class character in game tbh
In my Non-DU playthrough, Alfira was killed by Marcus trying to fight him with her barefist.
Even doing a full evil playthrough, I don’t think I could do it to the tieffelin girl (the one killed by the snake)
To be fair, there is an evil playthrough, and then there is... whatever these things are. That's not even evil anymore, that's just plain messed up.
That is the only one that is actually unavoidable
@@garrettord3304 It's actually 10000% avoidable.
Funnily enough it's so avoidable that the poor girl that shows up in her place if you save her gets butchered and every single time it's happened in my game no one cares. You get the choice to expose your misdeeds and make it clear you murdered the bard and in the morning your allies notice the body and start dialogue about it, but for some reason that doesn't happen. It does with Alfira but her replacement if you save her doesn't trigger that in my game, Shadowheart literally walks over her body and she's just left in a pool of blood.
No idea if it's a glitch or something but it's kind of hilarious.
@@garrettord3304 I’m talking about the little girl killed by the snake, not the bard
But it's a timeless tragedy. You should try it! :)
Playing the Durge with a splitting migraine feels very, very satisfying.
I'm on my first playthrough still and I love playing as the Dark Urge (still in act 1, my save file got corrupted twice because steam updates (mods didn't work with the new update) (my second playthrough will be only QOL mods)
spoilers ahead (?)
As the Dark Urge I initially tried to kill the rogue after he tried to knife me, but eventually revived him. I actually had a pretty good bond with him.
I was a bit iffy on the Cleric. But she is warming up to the Party, but the Gith, she needs to go.
My final party member will be the Drow Paladin. As the Durge I'm struggling to not murder the ones I love. Like on some Hulk Type Shit.
Choose to be dragonborn moon druid because of the Shapeshifting. The two boons later on are going to be very favorable. Very chaotic *stupid* not necessarily good or evil. Like I tried to get the tieflings out but my character fell in love with Minthra (though it wasn't until my 2nd time I met her that I realized she's a bitch, but the Dark Urge is a double agent doing a little bit of good and a little bit of bad okay a lot of bad, and because I'm saying yes to a lot of quest the rogue (in joker make up) gets mad at me. I can't wait until he drinks my blood again
I just finished the Urge quest line while fighting it the whole way, either route you pick I 100% think the urge is the cannon MC. The whole quest line is amazing. So many great moments and times.
If you pay attention to the lore and stuff durge is 100% the mc
Durge is amazing origin. Doing Evil Urge on my first playthrough, won't even humor doing a boring normal origin.
Oh boi, I want to do the Dark Urge Playthrough on my next campaign 😈
My Dark Urge Character Playthrough: *Be the most nicest character because mean dialogue makes me feel bad*
I killed the cat by accident, didn't realize that's what was going to happen. For some reason mama Karlach approved though, and got inspiration from it
The choke the goblins option is available in a much more articulate line of text for non Dark Urge players, at least the "Tav" origin.
I got to ten, was already sick to my stomach and then you're like "if you're a cat lover like me" and I knew exactly where you were going with this, and I want no part in it.
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I accidentally found that option in my last playthrough, and I loved it. The options that allow your character to kill subconsciously after doing/thinking about something seemingly innocent allows an otherwise good-aligned Dark Urge to convincingly let his control slip. It makes his story more satisfying when the game reminds you that his urge is a constant threat that he must overcome; keeps the stakes high.
Love Dark Urge, given what it truly is. Still, some answers to game questions I haven't seen around even on youtube yet. May take a look at the many choices myself in next runs, plan to record. won't have commentary though.
I'm not yet playing Baldur's Gate 3, but from what I've seen of it, sound's like something on the level of Witcher 3, but being able to be whoever you can be.
And Dark Urge sounds like having Palpatine be your moral compass and constantly saying: Do it!
And I intend to do it!
The witcher 3 have a much better gameplay and a better plot tho
Just saying what rumors and hearsay I've seen and heard. Pretty much all say this is the best game that came out this year or so, if not more@@drasyte7017
@@drasyte7017highly debatable, witcher 3 combat is nothing special, and though the writing overall is strong, the last act of the witcher is almost universally considered weak.
woah, you have clearly not payed bg3 at all or just hate turn based stuff. Played both and Witcher 3 isn't even in the same realm@@drasyte7017
@@AlesSimoncia the witcher 3 combat is nothing special but that always better than the turn per turn... (literally i'm bored to fight in BG3 somost of the time i avoid them)
yeah, last act of the witcher 3 is weak but last act of BG3 is meh so...
Tbh the good point of BG3 is the multiplayer mode (even if the game is better when you play solo, that still good to have)
Oh that's some amazing voice acting at 10:30, Emma Gregory is so talented.
Knowing Bg1 and Bg2, I immediately assumed the dark urge was about being a Baal spawn, with all the murderous intent that would bring
That's what I assumed
Dark urge is baal spawn
@aurimas4829 good job spoling one of the biggest reveals in the game you monster
@@goreobsessed2308 It's not like that isn't a tad predictable... I mean it's "Baldur's Gate" 3.
I've not played through yet...char creation hell for me...but I've got my own theories about the Dark Urge, knowing BG 1 and 2, and feel like going Dark Urge and True Soul together would be a match made in Khalas.
Getting Gale's Mage Hand and kicking the squirrel were the only times I was shocked by DUrge actions.
I think it sucks that Alfira will willingly join your party if you play as durge
I'm definitely building a Cleric for my Dark Urge playthrough. Gotta get the high Wisdom to resist the call of violence.
This is not the worst thing that the DU can do. Perhaps the most terrible scene can be in the temple of Baal, if you have Minsk and Jaheira in your group, and you have decided to become the chosen of Baal.
I won't write spoilers, but my poor heart was broken :c
Please spill mate.
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After you become the chosen one, Jaheira and Minsk turn against you, DU can take control of Minsks tadpole and force him to kill Jaheira. And then remove the control so he could see what he had done before killing him as well.
@@RikiTwiky Oh fuck.
@@RikiTwikyoh fuck during my DU playthough I did not save Minsc because I only wanted the DU achievements, but killing Jaheira there already made me, want to end the game asap. The choice you said is just too fucking unsettling, even just hearing about it.
That's great you can take Gill's hand. As a non dark-urge character, I just teased him and stinged him along until he left the party. Maiming him is so much more satisfying though.
Fun fact, the bard you kill isn’t always the tiefling. If you wipe out the emerald grove before this event triggers then a different bard will show up. I’ve had a silver Dragonborn in one play through where I was very efficient.
Surprised the squirrel incident isn’t on here. That caused my husband to delete his dark urge save file.
Best, most fun playthrough I ever did, highly recommend
It's important to note that you 100% can choose not to do any of this. There are exactly 2 times in a durge playthrough where something terrible will happen but imo it's canon that you resist the urges every other time. The durge is just so well tied into the main plot and characters that it *really* seems like this is the canon playthrough. I made the mistake of doing a durge playthrough as my first and regret it because every other Tav just feels less interesting and relevant
Honestly, force choking the goblins is light work compared to some of the things you can do to them.
I love how the game presented stepping on a cat's tail like sacrificing 1000 infants to the dark god
The narration is absolutely perfect. It's time to embrace malevolence.
Dark Urge aka intrusive thoughts.
It’s crazy how much his created character looks like the Druid king guy just without a crown. I’ve done that plenty of times like with fallout 4…
TDU is a lunatic playthrough come true.
The carnage is insane.
I like to be edgy sometimes, bordering on evil.. mostly if its funny but these options.. like killing children is something I couldn't do. Even in a game.
Being evil in this game is pure morbid joy.
You sacrifice some potential good loot and certain companies for some of the best Evil Roleplay ive ever seen in a video game.
Lots of people claim the sacrifices arent worth it but they are oh so wrong. Raiding the Tieflings like psychopathic warlord? *chefs kiss*
The Alfira thing fucked me up hard and in every dark urge run I've done since I've always made it a point to spare alfira by having one of my companions bonk her into unconsciousness
THE LAST ONE. I didn't realize it was a durge choice and I was just so fucking shocked. And ofc disturbed.
Most evil and disturbing choice for me was tricking Minsc into killing Jahiera. Having the option to literally break an old protagonist charecters soul by making him kill his beloved partner was pure evil, especially hearing Minsc scream of rage/pain when he realises what he just did.
you can acualy choke the goblins without being dark urge
True.. thats how I killed em too
Killing characters doesn’t phase me. But no matter how heartless I can be. I will never harm a cat.
Don't forget eating the toe from the goblin base. Shit is nasty imo.
geez & i thought the renegade choices in mass effect were rough. this is on a whole other level. makes me want to play it with the dark urge. maybe
I'm almost done with my first playthrough as an almost good character. I've done everything good except for letting Astarian become vampire lord because the buffs & spells he gets are insane
dark urge is just basically Drow, unless you go with the dark maiden over Lolth.
anyone who want to play a real drow(who is blue instead of obsidian black like they all are) should use dark urge as that is basically all of those who follow Lolth
Lolth is insane, but those serving her rarely are. Self-serving and ambitious is not the same as psychotic stupid, which the Dark Urge influence seems to be.
Despite following Llolth Drow society has a strong hierarchy and has much Order around it... the Chaos of llolth comes in, with all the intrigues and backstabbing that happens in that Society. It's Basically being Sith in the Sith Empire. Authoritarian and about Order, while the Members of that Empire are Chaotic.
The tiefling child you dont even need to be dark urge for that to happen.
Dude my dark urge just looks literally the same only without the dragonic shit on his face and the scar with the engravings
Not sure at this point if I'll get an answer to this, but I'm obsessed with the look of your PC.
The scaling around the eyes. Is that a mod? Cause I don't see it as an option on the PS5 version.
wait, that's what happens when you try to remember?
thank god I told myself "your memories are probably bad, try not to get them back" XD
I wouldn't call Alfira a choice given that it's unavoidable
(no, using 'disguise self' to knock her unconscious and kill a placeholder tiefling instead does *not* count, the placeholder may not sing nor give you a nice cape, but they're still someone you kill)
You can in fact chock the goblins even if you're not playing the dark urge so no one has to miss that
astarion approves lmao
I was playing as a Devotion Paladin to resist the D.Urge as much as possible...
But I always pick something gruesome when it comes to goblins.
poor Gobbos. I always allow them to live ... if they would defeat me. Wyll even approves of it, apparently I am being quite fair. Never mind them being one-hit. 3 lvl 1 gobbos against 4 level 8 chars, that is of no consequence :P
Interestingly the Bard you murder in act 1 was a dragonborn for me not the tiefling
Heard there was a way to "save" Alfira, but it involved knocking her out with non-lethal attacks.
Some other npc spawns in the camp instead.
If you walk up to the squirrel near the druid camp you can also punt it into a tree, that one hurt my heart a great deal
not a dark urge choice tho
Even if you tell Aphra to leave you still find and kill her, unless you kill her before hand this is an unstoppable kill after the latest patch, as the dark urge you need to kill her in order to progress the DU story properly weather you’re resisting or giving in.
Knock her out and some random Dragonborn bard will appear instead
The evil of the dark urge can send shivers down your spine
you can actually kill Isobel at the start of act 3, but you need to put Nightsong to sleep or something so she wouldn't attack you and then you get the spawn form anyway
To choke the goblins is also available if you are not the Durge. In addition to that, you forgot another terrible Durge Choices like sacrificing your lover to Bhaal
You can lose the fight with Orin and the story continues.
I love that the most replayed point of this video is AFTER Alfira. No one wants to see her die :((
I resist Dark Urge so i end up killing Lae'zel @@ That's disturbing so i have to load back and kill Isobel instead , after that i got The Slayer transformation skill
Sorry, how is the squirrel you meet in the grove not on here? It's shocking because it can be one of the very first moments the urge spills out that it catches the player off guard. It sure fucking caught me off guard.
Tieflings are a bane upon Faerun. That snake did everyone of us a favour.
14:39 it's insane that meow is a choice lol
I have only made it to Isabel as the dark urge. It was my first playthrough. I already killed Jahira at the gate because, by that part in the game, my character had already gone full dark side, and she annoyed her, so my character chose to wipe out the whole village for the lols.
After that, I slept and got the quest to kill Isabel. I found Isabel on the inn's second floor not long after and got a choice to kill her outright. I chose it, and when I saw the sky dissolve like that, I was like, O_o "Oh, I done f**ked up. I done f**ked up real good."
I'm not joking. That's what I really said out loud when I saw that, and I never cus. I know it's fantasy, and most Islamic scholars say video games are fine as long as you realize that they are just fantasy and you play in moderation, but when it made me cus, I decided to create a new character. Someone nicer. 😅
Aah yes, who could forget the fan-favourite bard character, Alfina...
If you killed emerald grove with minthara before first long rest there will be random chearfull dragonborn bard instead of Alfira. I love this game
the reason kicking timber into a wall wasn't on the list is that it wasn't all that disturbing XD
the cat Steelclaw, for me after a choice as dark urge and after the red screen it showed infront of my character, dark urge. while still in dialog. maybe have to pick one of the other reaction line? dead kitty in front of you then.
one cat can't save no matter what do for end game, Grub. kitty is flagged as necessary for part of end game to trigger properly :(
Before Hotfix 5, saved before but attempted with a mod to save Grub & Yenna (both and just Grub) from the what to come, when go down the cellar door to sewer that door where false Yenna comes through if have every party member, doesn't trigger and instead loads you into a "Debug" Room. D: Poor kitties, rather!
Grub is properly unkillable, even if cat early on hostiles on you. Other cats apparently can be killed outside of dialog.
Uh ... Yeah what!?
I'm a complete outsider to this franchise and, needless to say, I am extraordinarily confused.
Dark Urge is a backstory option in the game, these are some of the messed up stuff you can do
I don't think i could successfully RP a Dark Urge character. Definitely not for the feintest of hearts.
Cant wait to go full dark urge on my first playthrough.
Why would you specifically seek out a video to spoil and ruin the playthrough you want to do? Pretty stupid
fella said "can't wait" everyone has different tastes, some likes being spoiled, some don't.. you seem to have a very short temper for one positive comment my guy
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Basically what happens when you let the intrusive thoughts take over
Not the emoji at the end is the cat scene that brutal💀💀
I just can't do this, I can't pick the dark urge. I like everyone in the game too much.
You literally don't have to do any of this (except Alfira), the best way to play DU is to resist
You can also bite off some goblin toes at the goblin camp
For me the worst durge decision so far was when I was trying to remember my past when talking to the cat at moonrise and I stomped on her and killed her leaving a pile of blood 😪
Kicking the squirrel is my favorite part of the game.
Death of a child is less evil than that of a cat?
What is this degeneracy?!?!
Thanks for the vid. I could never do this run
And already without playing a Dark urge you can decide for disgusting choices.
should’ve covered the squirrel in the grove as well.
I'm just here to say the thumbnail looks like Christian Bale, and intentional or not that seems perfect.
I enjoyed watching the video because i never in a million years would make these choices myself lol.
I still think that killing gale is a good choice. He is useless if he remains pure wizard and also can't seat without his drags for five freaking minutes
*"Rise, Darth Urge"*