Unfortunately they all are heading this way. Even Toyota. I have a Rav4 (2016) and mechanically it is rock solid but I cannot say the Entune system is without issues.
I have a BYD Atto 3, 1 yo, 20,000km. Cost about USD33,000. Runs great, no errors at all. Currently enjoying a road trip around SE Australia, so far no charging issues and am enjoying super low energy costs.
@@jimgraham6722 No thank you. I’m sure the BYD is a decent car (personally of the Chinese brands I like NIO the best) and I have nothing against the good people of China but I have ZERO interest in doing business with a company with ties to a government that actively labels me, an American, as the enemy, tells its people to do so as well through nationalism, and uses economic coercion towards countries like Brazil and India (of which I have family in the Indian military fighting against them over a border dispute) to get its way. I’ll take a look at the Koreans or Tesla if the other brands don’t deliver.
@@juanzingarello4005 Good points. However, to look on the bright side, unlike US and Ruzz, at least so far they haven't invaded anyone in recent times. Let's hope they don't blot the copy book.
@@jimgraham6722 true. I can give them the benefit of the doubt. I just hope they don’t expect the rest of us to be “obedient little people who are willing to give up our freedom of speech for their global perception.”
Sounds like the first year of Lucid Air vehicles. I was so amazed that for a solid year there were less than 3 videos on all of RUclips. Then finally, after six months, Jon Rettinger made a very positive video for the product, but did mention that his car was in the possession of Lucid for 2 of those 6 months. He went on to say how it wasn't consecutive 2 months either. It was a break down or major fault every few weeks. The guy would get his car back, only to have it break down again before the weekend was over.
Which is why I buy Toyotas -- likely an HEV next time. And why I'll never consider a GM again (after my disastrous '95 Saturn which they couldn't fix, and where like a lot of other people (re the internet) they tried to blame many problems on the CUSTOMER. (In my case they said it was how I drove the car, which was EXACTLY like I drove my '82 Toyota Celia for 13.5 years.)
@@rogergeyer9851don’t blame society for pointing out that you can’t drive Moden cars! Just adjust your habits like the rest does when moving over to newer generations!
I love hearing complaints from ppl who bought a different EV that isn't Tesla just because they wanted to show Musk the finger. Watched a VW owner's video after he bought his VW EV and he was scathing of Tesla. I watched him a few months later broken, just like his VW EV. He had a long list of issues and what made it worse was a friend of his let him drive the Model 3 and he saw what he was missing. 🤣
It’s the only ev in town. Maybe Hyundai, jury still out there. I bought a tesla model y LR 1.5 years ago and love it, mostly. Hate, Hate tesla service and the fact they control everything in your car, but there is no competition in the ev space. First mover advantage is strong.
Almost all of the faults seem to be software problems rather than hardware. Yet again, GM has rushed an EV to market without proper testing of production units. It is almost like they want to bring on another bankruptcy.
@@davidtate7699 The legacy automakers all outsource writing their software. Unfortunately, there can be many vendors involved in writing the software for the same vehicle and the software can even be in different computer languages. When things go bad in terms of unexpected interactions, the timelines to get the proper company to own the error and fix it, causes significant delays in resolving the problems. One by one, some of the big manufacturers are buying up software companies so they can have more leverage over contracts and promptness. Tesla, which started out as basically a software company, has almost all of its software in house so things are addressed quickly with much less effort. Cars have become computers on wheels and the legacy manufacturers are late to the party.
It's not just GM. All legacy companies are in the same bind. VW spent €7 billion hiring 25,000 software engineers 4 years ago to solve the same problem and now have given up and will just rebadge Chinese EVs. It's because each module comes from a different supplier and the software is proprietary and secret. They cant get them to talk to the CPU reliably, most likely. Tesla designed everything themselves (and I'm no Tesla fan).
At least the Blazer didn't catch on fire. That would have caused a lot of jokes because of the name. 🤣That was a real problem with the Pontiac Fiero. It's hard to say what is worse a launch where you don't have inventory yet like the Ford F150 Lightning or a launch where you do have cars but they don't work like the Blazer.
We used to call the 1990s Explorer the Exploder. Now that there's an Exploder EV coming to market Ford is back in the crispy critter game alongside GM.
After my Cadillac Lyric attempted reservation and hug delay in delivery, I cancelled the reservation and heard that there is over 100 pages on the Lyric forum all with issues pertaining to quality build, dysfunctional events, to requiring repairs at dealers with long delays. GM is having a hard time with these new Ultium EV's
Just like the huge delays Tesla had and has at times. I get so sick of hearing only one side of Tesla. Good thing I don't owe my income to Tesla and all the free trips they give all of you. C'mon. All of you here sound like broken records.
Bring back the Volt ⚡️ had a few problems becm primarily, but no problems after it was fixed. Record is 3,200 miles on a tank of gas, generally I average 75 mpg in winter and 150 mpg in summer, I drive 75 miles to work though, average commuter would get better results. The fact that I have a gas engine if needed is great, charges in 12 hours from a regular outlet. It's no tesla but I leave almost every vehicle in my rear view mirror when the light turns green. Such a shame they discontinued it as it was getting better and better, the new prius is basically a volt in some ways, the Bolt is now on hold for a few years so other than these "new" models with all the bugs which could take years to find and fix.
Viking is referring to a EV hit piece based off Edmonds EV experience blog. The article was misleading because it made it sound like everything failed in the car. If you follow up on the Edmunds article it was a failure in the CAM Bus. The CAM Bus is the communication system/wires that connect everything to the computer. If the CAM bus fails it makes it look like a lot of other things failed. It would be nice if all brand new cars came out perfect out of the gate. However as much as Viking does LOVES to disparage GM and not Tesla for the exact same things (I think maybe Viking is shorting GM?). Many brand new cars have issues. If you are an early adopter you likely are going to do some bug fixing. Early Tesla Roadster buyers would have a lot to say on that.
Too bad the Blazer for some drivers have issues with them. I was interested in the GM EV's but that was for the 2024 Equinox EV which I assume has the similar designs. Got tired of the prolonged waiting so I went for the 2023 model Y LR as my first EV and enjoy it. i wanted a hatchback style vehicle. Will be interesting anyway to see how these GM vehicles will sell and perform without issues. Will there be an Equinox EV, time shall tell and at what costs. Thanks for the video and information.
The reason folks went to Japanese cars in the past was because they had a quality product from the get go. American automobile auto and truck manufacturers from the past put out vehicles and the first in buyers had to endure being the guinea pigs and resolve quality issues. So here we are in 2023 and U.S. manufacturers are doing it again. Sad.
With Toyota they had quality from day one, great overall durability, dealers who could diagnose and fix the cars, AND the prices were quite competitive with the Big 3. It was literally a no-brainer. The way we're going, it will be the same for GM and Ford vs. Tesla and BYD. The big question is how soon will BYD sell and support the mass market in the US.
It sounds like they gave reviewers what is basically a prototype or release candidate at best. Best case they can trace it down to a single point of failure. If it really is that many different things it's back to the drawing board for all the engineering and testing.
In software development they have components unit testing, followed by once they are incorporated, system testing, and regression testing. This is a very crude overview but you get the idea. What Chevy has done sounds like no testing 😂
@@kabysummit5801 Yeah, they could have got it all done in one road trip from the looks of it. Would be good to stop at all brands of chargers along the way.
Contrast this with the Cybertruck, which spent years testing and troubleshooting, and was criticized for the 'delay'. It will be interesting to see what problems occur with early models of the CT.
GM seems to have become mired in a swamp of failure. Top management's incompetence seems to have developed resistance to competence as the king's new clothes, only the little boy has been silenced
I had a Bolt for 4 years was great, now traded that for my new Blazer EV RS - Amazing!! Best vehicle I ever owned. No problems yet, hope it stays that way!
Can you imagine being on the design team for this vehicles. No expectation of it ever hitting scale. Every unit sold will cost GM money. Getting enough time to do things right is next to impossible.
oh dear. they installed a wiring loom that was not shielded against RFi from outside sources. The common issue is the wiring loom. The loom must cope with the car being zapped by highway patrol radar guns and military aircraft as well as Cell phone towers, which in the USA are much higher power than in china.
It's almost like GM intended the Blazer to be a lemon, to discourage takeup of EVs. Of course, any such policy is certain to backfire and to hurt GM more than it hurts the EV market generally. But GM is no stranger to monumental stupidity, starting with the decision to trash the original GM 'Volt'. I can only conclude that Exxon must have a controlling interest in GM and is hell-bent on taking GM down with it.
Given all the CRAP for 5 decades that took GM from number 1 in the US to a non-credible 2nd tier carmaker, this is just GM lack of quality, repair competence, etc. Par for the course.
@@jamesvandamme7786 they cancelled the bolt because they were losing money on it. It seems though that their ultium platform is not ready for prime time yet. Just as Ford and Chevy both have announced that they are going to have Tesla plugs in 2025, they intentionally nixed any sale of 2024 EVs to give them time to get their engineering up to speed. My pessimistic bet is that they won't have their stuff togeher in 2025 either. It's also amusing that Not one car chevy sells today qualifies for the EV tax credit. Not one. The ones they do sell are too expensive to qualify and the little bolt was losing them too much money.
Sure would be nice to see a borderline analog EV. A truck or minivan. Forward, backward, dome light, headlights and tail lights. Blinkers. Heater and AC. The biggest, simplest and most efficient battery that will fit. Thats it.
The bottom line is that they can't fix the software to eliminate these problems. That's because of the same reason Ford / Jim Farley said on an interview with Sandy Monroe. They have 35+ suppliers who have their own proprietary and patented software to operate their own components so oem's literally can't write/rewrite the software, they have to go to their suppliers and ask them to make changes to the software, and on top of that mess, how do you get 35+ suppliers to coordinate their schitt with 34 other schitt's all operating in their own bubbles, who are also supplying many other car companies with all their differing desires and requirements.
Most of these sound like the 12V battery is hosed. I had a similar thing in my old petrol car where *everything* was complaining and it turned out the battery was just gone. As soon as I replaced it, things returned to normal.
I got one of these as a fleet vehicle through work, and I really like it. Have not had any issues, but I only have 1500 miles on it. Great little vehicle.
"Great little vehicle." How much does it weigh? 81% of US electricity is generated with hydrocarbons. If we were to take everything into consideration, this vehicle is terrible for the environment.
@@bunsw2070: First, false re the percentage you claim. I notice you have NO SOURCE -- typical for people claiming fact free nonsense. In 2022, 60% of US electricity was from hydrocarbons, and the trend is clearly DOWN, as much of new electrical energy comes from green sources, and more each year. www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20about%204%2C231%20billion,facilities%20in%20the%20United%20States.&text=About%2060%25%20of%20this%20electricity,%2C%20petroleum%2C%20and%20other%20gases. "In 2022, about 4,231 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.23 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.1 About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels-coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 18% was from nuclear energy, and about 21% was from renewable energy sources." The EIA IS a very credible source, BTW. If you can't do better than that, why post? Drumming up fact free far right wing voters? I'm a moderate and don't like the far left either, but facts are facts.
From the list of errors you listed it in your video sounds like a failure on the communication bus for the vehicle. Most , if not all of those modules reported communicate on the CAN bus (Communication Area Network). So most likely this is traceable to one or two faulty CAN controller hubs or a bad module pulling down the bus. This is not the only vehicle that will a torrent of error messages when a central common network device fails,. This happens on Tesla as well. Now one might argue why not give a single message and simply store the other messages for a service mode perhaps. As a technical person I would download the messages with a OBDC-II code reader. Failures shouldn't occur in a perfect world , but honestly this could simply be an early assembly or part problem and we are not in a perfect world. I wouldn't write the vehicle off yet. It should receive immediate attention and focus by Chevrolet engineers. Followed by a public report on the issue. There are plenty of other reviews where the reviewers didn't have these issues. So let's wait and see.
This could simply be a case of a perfectly fine and well designed car having wiring harnesses assembled by low quality worker(s) that just don't care about their job and insufficient quality control mechanisms to catch sloppy work. Every issue described here isn't catastrophic failure or bad engineering, it's just electrical gremlins in countless wire connectors- which is almost impossible to find and fix unfortunately.
I have the Honda Prologue, the sister of the Blazer EV. The brake master cylinder needs replacing at 2000 miles. I’m so glad I leased it and not purchased. Losing faith in Honda for working with GM on a car. Never knew this was a Chevy until after the purchase. Better yet, there’s another one at the dealer waiting for a part as well, and it’s on back order. The other car has been there over a month and mine will too, or more. Trust in Honda is gone.
Perhaps do a segment on Tesla where they blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective. Wheels falling off cars at speed. Suspensions collapsing on brand-new vehicles. Axles breaking under acceleration. Tens of thousands of customers told Tesla about a host of part failures on low-mileage cars. The automaker sought to blame drivers for vehicle ‘abuse,’ but Tesla documents show it had tracked the chronic ‘flaws’ and ‘failures’ for years.
Totally unacceptable. OTOH, instead of presenting 23 different problems, I'm going out on a limb and say it it on problem with the computer causing all the notifications.
This is not really an "EV" problem, rather it is a symptom of the race to make cars as complex as possible. A very bad omen for the future, when these cars are around 8-20 years old and need scrapping because it shuts down because a window winder or similar module decides to kill the CAN bus. We really need simpler vehicles, not more complex ones! Why do the car designers not get that?
If you want further proof of what a pain in the backside charging can be - there is a guy who drove his Rivan with a trailer and towing a heavy load, I think 10,000 lbs. He was only getting about 100 miles per charge; he was near out of range He had to find a level 3 charger but when he tried all the bays were full; plus they are not pull through like at a gas station they were like parking spots. He had to go to a level 2 charger, charge for nearly an hour to get 10 miles range so he could get to the next Level 3..then once he finally got there - he had to take his trailer off or it would block all the cars, his big truck was too large for the small charge spots so he had to wait till 2 were empty so he could take two up. Charging is a total pain in the rear and not a luxury.
@@jamesvandamme7786 I rarely see a EV charger that has any attendent or oversight ; even air for tires; or a bathroom; many are not near a store or place to eat. Given the long periods one may need to charge this isn't a very good situation.
@@litestuffllc7249 A lot of them are just greenwashing. But here in NY the new Thruway rest stops have chargers, every 40 miles or so. The grocery store that puts them in will get my business.
@@jamesvandamme7786 I don't think this particuar person was giving a negative report he owned the vehicle. NYC has one of the lowest EV adoption rates in the country because few people have a garage; so they'd have to use a super charger if they have a Tesla; that ups the cost per mile quite a bit. This would follow in most of the older cities where homes were built before the automobile and people park in the street. Another complicating factor is NYC has pretty bad crime so you'd not want to leave your $60,000 vehicle sitting charging unattended or even on the street.
GM and other legacy automakers are at least 10 years behind Tesla, BYD and other Chinese EV makers in software/technology. Too many bean counters worried about sourcing the cheapest components they can. Chinese update cycle is every 6 months…legacy is 5 years.
No I am not roger Geyer - look on you tube at Tesla Model Y 2022 model : charge in 15 minutes. The battery was optimized when he charged it, It was not hot or cold both which would slow charging - He got 40% charge in 15 minutes. Due to heating Tesla intentionally slows down the charging rate to avoid fires, so had he gone on to charge to 80% even a Tesla Model Y on a supercharger type 3 takes 40-50 mintues - to only 80%. 2023 Bolt would take hours to charge.
GM's handling of this vehicle is enough to steer me away from their brands as a whole. I'm tired of companies putting out trash that hasn't properly been designed, manufactured, and tested. this is completely unacceptable
And how hard is it to CHECK a 12 volt battery? And shouldn't top diagnosticians know to check the obvious, based on overall symptomology? GM. What a joke, re quality.
A lot of mayonnaise on this electrical gremlin. I'd suggest you've whipped this one up way too far for what is ultimately a common kind of issue for all manufacturers, including Tesla
This is stupid. There are not 20 different things that have failed here. Most likely all these trouble codes are caused by low voltage or a bad connection in one of the systems. All the vehicles different systems are connected to each other. If one has a problem, they all detect it and set their own codes.
Bolt was among the bottom 10 reliable vehicles as well at launch. GM is just back to pre- 2008 bankruptcy activity. Build trash and let marketing do the heavy lifting. Hope nobody catches on.
Luxury and EV are opposites - sitting in freezing or sweltering weather while your car charges for 50 minutes if that; has all the luxury of jacking up a car along the side of the road to change a flat; which usually takes less time.
Let's make it 15 to 20 minutes in A/C luxury, if you're not hurrying to get snacks or other pressing problems before you get back to your car. I love 'em, at the least, so far, the one I really love.
As if most people don't charge at home. As if in the real world, charging isn't getting quick, AND you can sit in heat or A/C while it charges. But do keep making nonsense up because like Trump, I'll believe what your ilk lies about. /s
Way to go Mary. You led and it matters!
Laughable and sad that all that fed money our money back in Mary’s pocket
You led (your company to bankruptcy) and it matters!
A GM EV from Mexico, what could go wrong?
Imagine that GM building another POS. Huh
@@originalboxcar *shocked face*
Sounds like a 12V supply issue. Ask any ICE BMW owner, the battery starts to fail, and things go terribly wrong
Well at least the error message system works! ;)
Or maybe not if it doesn't help the experts track down the real problem(s).
Im sure the stock buyback operation went flawlessly. It's more important of course.
Wait for the stock to drop and the buyback to be a loss...lol. GM is sad excuse for a car company.
I leaned in the 60's that the fewer options and features in a car, the fewer opportunities for repairs. Keep it simple!
Yes, excessive complications for what could be a simple vehicle, will vastly reduce the long term reliability.
Same thing my appliance repairman friend says. "Get the dumbest appliance you can buy..."
True, but for most makers, at least that's as the vehicles AGE. Not day 1 or even under warranty, re HUGE numbers of problems.
That is what I like about EVs. 20 or less moving and wearing parts in the drivetrain versus hundreds or thousands in an ICE vehicle.
@@JBoy340a I have a 2000 Honda CRV with 400,000 km and the whole drivetrain is original except for one driveshaft replacement.
Worse than Vinfast? Sam, you're forgetting the most important point. Mary Bara's bonus remains intact.
Way to go Mary, you did it again.
The problem with most manufacturers, and certainly GM, is they prioritise infotainment screens and cup holders above reliability and value.
Unfortunately they all are heading this way. Even Toyota. I have a Rav4 (2016) and mechanically it is rock solid but I cannot say the Entune system is without issues.
I have a BYD Atto 3, 1 yo, 20,000km. Cost about USD33,000. Runs great, no errors at all. Currently enjoying a road trip around SE Australia, so far no charging issues and am enjoying super low energy costs.
@@jimgraham6722 No thank you. I’m sure the BYD is a decent car (personally of the Chinese brands I like NIO the best) and I have nothing against the good people of China but I have ZERO interest in doing business with a company with ties to a government that actively labels me, an American, as the enemy, tells its people to do so as well through nationalism, and uses economic coercion towards countries like Brazil and India (of which I have family in the Indian military fighting against them over a border dispute) to get its way. I’ll take a look at the Koreans or Tesla if the other brands don’t deliver.
@@juanzingarello4005 Good points. However, to look on the bright side, unlike US and Ruzz, at least so far they haven't invaded anyone in recent times. Let's hope they don't blot the copy book.
@@jimgraham6722 true. I can give them the benefit of the doubt. I just hope they don’t expect the rest of us to be “obedient little people who are willing to give up our freedom of speech for their global perception.”
Sounds like the first year of Lucid Air vehicles. I was so amazed that for a solid year there were less than 3 videos on all of RUclips. Then finally, after six months, Jon Rettinger made a very positive video for the product, but did mention that his car was in the possession of Lucid for 2 of those 6 months. He went on to say how it wasn't consecutive 2 months either. It was a break down or major fault every few weeks. The guy would get his car back, only to have it break down again before the weekend was over.
Which is why I buy Toyotas -- likely an HEV next time. And why I'll never consider a GM again (after my disastrous '95 Saturn which they couldn't fix, and where like a lot of other people (re the internet) they tried to blame many problems on the CUSTOMER. (In my case they said it was how I drove the car, which was EXACTLY like I drove my '82 Toyota Celia for 13.5 years.)
@@rogergeyer9851don’t blame society for pointing out that you can’t drive Moden cars! Just adjust your habits like the rest does when moving over to newer generations!
I love hearing complaints from ppl who bought a different EV that isn't Tesla just because they wanted to show Musk the finger.
Watched a VW owner's video after he bought his VW EV and he was scathing of Tesla. I watched him a few months later broken, just like his VW EV.
He had a long list of issues and what made it worse was a friend of his let him drive the Model 3 and he saw what he was missing. 🤣
For real. Just buy a Tesla 😂
It’s the only ev in town. Maybe Hyundai, jury still out there. I bought a tesla model y LR 1.5 years ago and love it, mostly. Hate, Hate tesla service and the fact they control everything in your car, but there is no competition in the ev space. First mover advantage is strong.
Almost all of the faults seem to be software problems rather than hardware. Yet again, GM has rushed an EV to market without proper testing of production units. It is almost like they want to bring on another bankruptcy.
di read someplace they had to hire a software company because they could not figure out how to write that type of software?
Why not another bankruptcy, write off massive debt, cut contracts with suppliers and employees, could be the plan 😮
They can't do over the air updates, how lame!
@@davidtate7699 The legacy automakers all outsource writing their software. Unfortunately, there can be many vendors involved in writing the software for the same vehicle and the software can even be in different computer languages. When things go bad in terms of unexpected interactions, the timelines to get the proper company to own the error and fix it, causes significant delays in resolving the problems. One by one, some of the big manufacturers are buying up software companies so they can have more leverage over contracts and promptness.
Tesla, which started out as basically a software company, has almost all of its software in house so things are addressed quickly with much less effort. Cars have become computers on wheels and the legacy manufacturers are late to the party.
It's not just GM. All legacy companies are in the same bind. VW spent €7 billion hiring 25,000 software engineers 4 years ago to solve the same problem and now have given up and will just rebadge Chinese EVs. It's because each module comes from a different supplier and the software is proprietary and secret. They cant get them to talk to the CPU reliably, most likely.
Tesla designed everything themselves (and I'm no Tesla fan).
Both Ford and GM have well-earned reputations.
Shit yes. I bought a Chevy Vega once. I've never bought a Chevy since.
Lol what happened @@dongeorge4037
At least the Blazer didn't catch on fire. That would have caused a lot of jokes because of the name. 🤣That was a real problem with the Pontiac Fiero. It's hard to say what is worse a launch where you don't have inventory yet like the Ford F150 Lightning or a launch where you do have cars but they don't work like the Blazer.
Probably better to have fewer units available but also fewer embarrassing mess-ups
Not yet...😊😊
We used to call the 1990s Explorer the Exploder.
Now that there's an Exploder EV coming to market Ford is back in the crispy critter game alongside GM.
@@ToolHombre Good thing Pontiac is gone, an EV Firebird would have been awkward.
Only 23 failures!?!?! GM is improving!
Better than Ford cars in general
Union built with pride.
@@tomooo2637 Not a high standard! 😂
@@Mrbfgray Designed by executives who hold their customers in complete contempt.
@@hemaccabe4292 You copied this from a Disney thread didn't you
/jk
After my Cadillac Lyric attempted reservation and hug delay in delivery, I cancelled the reservation and heard that there is over 100 pages on the Lyric forum all with issues pertaining to quality build, dysfunctional events, to requiring repairs at dealers with long delays. GM is having a hard time with these new Ultium EV's
To put it mildly. An accurate description would be.. a real shit show lol
Just like the huge delays Tesla had and has at times. I get so sick of hearing only one side of Tesla. Good thing I don't owe my income to Tesla and all the free trips they give all of you. C'mon. All of you here sound like broken records.
GM is having a hard time building anything, and new cars are much worse.
Bring back the Volt ⚡️ had a few problems becm primarily, but no problems after it was fixed. Record is 3,200 miles on a tank of gas, generally I average 75 mpg in winter and 150 mpg in summer, I drive 75 miles to work though, average commuter would get better results. The fact that I have a gas engine if needed is great, charges in 12 hours from a regular outlet. It's no tesla but I leave almost every vehicle in my rear view mirror when the light turns green. Such a shame they discontinued it as it was getting better and better, the new prius is basically a volt in some ways, the Bolt is now on hold for a few years so other than these "new" models with all the bugs which could take years to find and fix.
Viking is referring to a EV hit piece based off Edmonds EV experience blog. The article was misleading because it made it sound like everything failed in the car. If you follow up on the Edmunds article it was a failure in the CAM Bus. The CAM Bus is the communication system/wires that connect everything to the computer. If the CAM bus fails it makes it look like a lot of other things failed. It would be nice if all brand new cars came out perfect out of the gate. However as much as Viking does LOVES to disparage GM and not Tesla for the exact same things (I think maybe Viking is shorting GM?). Many brand new cars have issues. If you are an early adopter you likely are going to do some bug fixing. Early Tesla Roadster buyers would have a lot to say on that.
Too bad the Blazer for some drivers have issues with them. I was interested in the GM EV's but that was for the 2024 Equinox EV which I assume has the similar designs. Got tired of the prolonged waiting so I went for the 2023 model Y LR as my first EV and enjoy it. i wanted a hatchback style vehicle.
Will be interesting anyway to see how these GM vehicles will sell and perform without issues. Will there be an Equinox EV, time shall tell and at what costs.
Thanks for the video and information.
The reason folks went to Japanese cars in the past was because they had a quality product from the get go. American automobile auto and truck manufacturers from the past put out vehicles and the first in buyers had to endure being the guinea pigs and resolve quality issues. So here we are in 2023 and U.S. manufacturers are doing it again. Sad.
With Toyota they had quality from day one, great overall durability, dealers who could diagnose and fix the cars, AND the prices were quite competitive with the Big 3. It was literally a no-brainer.
The way we're going, it will be the same for GM and Ford vs. Tesla and BYD. The big question is how soon will BYD sell and support the mass market in the US.
Generally when a car has so many no communication errors it's a ground fault.
It sounds like they gave reviewers what is basically a prototype or release candidate at best. Best case they can trace it down to a single point of failure. If it really is that many different things it's back to the drawing board for all the engineering and testing.
In software development they have components unit testing, followed by once they are incorporated, system testing, and regression testing. This is a very crude overview but you get the idea. What Chevy has done sounds like no testing 😂
"Purchased off the lot"
@@kabysummit5801 Yeah, they could have got it all done in one road trip from the looks of it. Would be good to stop at all brands of chargers along the way.
@@ToolHombre Ouch...
Contrast this with the Cybertruck, which spent years testing and troubleshooting, and was criticized for the 'delay'. It will be interesting to see what problems occur with early models of the CT.
GM seems to have become mired in a swamp of failure. Top management's incompetence seems to have developed resistance to competence as the king's new clothes, only the little boy has been silenced
I had a Bolt for 4 years was great, now traded that for my new Blazer EV RS - Amazing!! Best vehicle I ever owned. No problems yet, hope it stays that way!
Can you imagine being on the design team for this vehicles. No expectation of it ever hitting scale. Every unit sold will cost GM money. Getting enough time to do things right is next to impossible.
I thought GM was going to be the leader in EV production? 🤷♂️
Wait til BYD builds a plant in the USA.
GM needs to slow down the EV train. They never should have abandoned hybrid vehicle development. This could be the death of them
Mary get a big bonus for releasing the blazer before 2024... safety is her last priority
Congrats on reviewing the car & not just promoting it. As of this comment GM stopped selling it~!!!
Definitely had a full bus failure and probably because of the wiring harness.
And yet, their experts can't find it for weeks. That's really the inexcusable part.
Besides all the problems you mentioned. The biggest flaw in the vehicle is the weight at 6K pounds. 😢
oh dear. they installed a wiring loom that was not shielded against RFi from outside sources. The common issue is the wiring loom. The loom must cope with the car being zapped by highway patrol radar guns and military aircraft as well as Cell phone towers, which in the USA are much higher power than in china.
It's almost like GM intended the Blazer to be a lemon, to discourage takeup of EVs. Of course, any such policy is certain to backfire and to hurt GM more than it hurts the EV market generally. But GM is no stranger to monumental stupidity, starting with the decision to trash the original GM 'Volt'.
I can only conclude that Exxon must have a controlling interest in GM and is hell-bent on taking GM down with it.
You can go back even further with the EV1.
Given all the CRAP for 5 decades that took GM from number 1 in the US to a non-credible 2nd tier carmaker, this is just GM lack of quality, repair competence, etc. Par for the course.
Like vw made EA stations bad to discourage EV uptake.
They canceled the Bolt because it was getting too popular.
@@jamesvandamme7786 they cancelled the bolt because they were losing money on it. It seems though that their ultium platform is not ready for prime time yet. Just as Ford and Chevy both have announced that they are going to have Tesla plugs in 2025, they intentionally nixed any sale of 2024 EVs to give them time to get their engineering up to speed. My pessimistic bet is that they won't have their stuff togeher in 2025 either. It's also amusing that Not one car chevy sells today qualifies for the EV tax credit. Not one. The ones they do sell are too expensive to qualify and the little bolt was losing them too much money.
Really cool looking at least.
Front is hideous and whole thing looks childishly pointless, cheesy plastic bits without function, grill for a 7 liter V8. POS
The Chevrolet Blazer sounds great 😆
Sure would be nice to see a borderline analog EV. A truck or minivan. Forward, backward, dome light, headlights and tail lights. Blinkers. Heater and AC. The biggest, simplest and most efficient battery that will fit. Thats it.
With EV friends like this - who needs enemies 😂
It's like their hell bent on writing their own obituary 🤣
They're just being honest. This isn't a crusade. (Unless, of course, it really is, eh?)
The bottom line is that they can't fix the software to eliminate these problems. That's because of the same reason Ford / Jim Farley said on an interview with Sandy Monroe.
They have 35+ suppliers who have their own proprietary and patented software to operate their own components so oem's literally can't write/rewrite the software, they have to go to their suppliers and ask them to make changes to the software, and on top of that mess, how do you get 35+ suppliers to coordinate their schitt with 34 other schitt's all operating in their own bubbles, who are also supplying many other car companies with all their differing desires and requirements.
Most of these sound like the 12V battery is hosed. I had a similar thing in my old petrol car where *everything* was complaining and it turned out the battery was just gone. As soon as I replaced it, things returned to normal.
Odd that a new battery would be bad.
That's one reason why I bought a proven and tested Nissan LEAF. Not one problem in thoushands of miles.
GM BECM has always been an issue since 2016 Volt. Other engineers have open that module and identified the problems that will malfunction
Starting to think legacy auto is purposely trying to tank EV’s 🤔
I got one of these as a fleet vehicle through work, and I really like it. Have not had any issues, but I only have 1500 miles on it. Great little vehicle.
Good luck!
"Great little vehicle." How much does it weigh? 81% of US electricity is generated with hydrocarbons. If we were to take everything into consideration, this vehicle is terrible for the environment.
@@bunsw2070: First, false re the percentage you claim.
I notice you have NO SOURCE -- typical for people claiming fact free nonsense. In 2022, 60% of US electricity was from hydrocarbons, and the trend is clearly DOWN, as much of new electrical energy comes from green sources, and more each year.
www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.php?id=427&t=3#:~:text=In%202022%2C%20about%204%2C231%20billion,facilities%20in%20the%20United%20States.&text=About%2060%25%20of%20this%20electricity,%2C%20petroleum%2C%20and%20other%20gases.
"In 2022, about 4,231 billion kilowatthours (kWh) (or about 4.23 trillion kWh) of electricity were generated at utility-scale electricity generation facilities in the United States.1 About 60% of this electricity generation was from fossil fuels-coal, natural gas, petroleum, and other gases. About 18% was from nuclear energy, and about 21% was from renewable energy sources."
The EIA IS a very credible source, BTW.
If you can't do better than that, why post? Drumming up fact free far right wing voters?
I'm a moderate and don't like the far left either, but facts are facts.
I have tesla solar so I know where my energy comes from. So piss off.@@bunsw2070
@@bunsw2070 Maybe you should investigate that a little deeper instead of parroting oil industry propaganda.
From the list of errors you listed it in your video sounds like a failure on the communication bus for the vehicle. Most , if not all of those modules reported communicate on the CAN bus (Communication Area Network). So most likely this is traceable to one or two faulty CAN controller hubs or a bad module pulling down the bus.
This is not the only vehicle that will a torrent of error messages when a central common network device fails,. This happens on Tesla as well. Now one might argue why not give a single message and simply store the other messages for a service mode perhaps. As a technical person I would download the messages with a OBDC-II code reader.
Failures shouldn't occur in a perfect world , but honestly this could simply be an early assembly or part problem and we are not in a perfect world. I wouldn't write the vehicle off yet. It should receive immediate attention and focus by Chevrolet engineers. Followed by a public report on the issue.
There are plenty of other reviews where the reviewers didn't have these issues. So let's wait and see.
I wouldn’t go near a GM product up there or rather down there with Jeep !
This could simply be a case of a perfectly fine and well designed car having wiring harnesses assembled by low quality worker(s) that just don't care about their job and insufficient quality control mechanisms to catch sloppy work. Every issue described here isn't catastrophic failure or bad engineering, it's just electrical gremlins in countless wire connectors- which is almost impossible to find and fix unfortunately.
Sounds like the Blazer makes the Toyota BZ4X look good! 😆
Ha
I'd go for the Koreans if you want EV (especially the EV6). Bz4X gets 2/5 on Consumer Reports for reliability.
@@juanzingarello4005 Agreed. I was just joking.
GM doesnt want to sell EVs, they are okay making slightly more profit this quarter and marching to the company's demise.
GM. Go Mary.
Union made with pride. (those two concepts don't coexist)
My BMW i3 with 35,000 miles give me an error today refill washer fluid....lol...perfect car.....
I wonder if the can bus is unreliable on this car. A single faulty module or bad cable run might be causing all these errors.
I have the Honda Prologue, the sister of the Blazer EV. The brake master cylinder needs replacing at 2000 miles. I’m so glad I leased it and not purchased. Losing faith in Honda for working with GM on a car. Never knew this was a Chevy until after the purchase. Better yet, there’s another one at the dealer waiting for a part as well, and it’s on back order. The other car has been there over a month and mine will too, or more. Trust in Honda is gone.
I'm hearing a lot of "lost communication" and "invalid data"... It *could* just be a single bad connection in the car's CANbus network wreaking havoc.
yes or damaged insulation on one wire earthing out.
Perhaps do a segment on Tesla where they blamed drivers for failures of parts it long knew were defective. Wheels falling off cars at speed. Suspensions collapsing on brand-new vehicles. Axles breaking under acceleration. Tens of thousands of customers told Tesla about a host of part failures on low-mileage cars. The automaker sought to blame drivers for vehicle ‘abuse,’ but Tesla documents show it had tracked the chronic ‘flaws’ and ‘failures’ for years.
Totally unacceptable. OTOH, instead of presenting 23 different problems, I'm going out on a limb and say it it on problem with the computer causing all the notifications.
Made by the UAW, 3 years 36 mile warranty!! junk!!
I was on the wait list for 12 months or so and ended up getting a model y when our car was totalled. Dodged a bullet.
General motors can't make ice vehicles why would we think they could make quality modern battery electric vehicles
This is not really an "EV" problem, rather it is a symptom of the race to make cars as complex as possible. A very bad omen for the future, when these cars are around 8-20 years old and need scrapping because it shuts down because a window winder or similar module decides to kill the CAN bus. We really need simpler vehicles, not more complex ones! Why do the car designers not get that?
Too many modules!
This many faults usally mean there is a problem with the 12v battery. Semes like gm didn't fix the 12v batter problem
Moving into the future in reverse. GM’s motto. Maybe GM should bring back the EV one
They should bring back the Bolt. Sales were just starting to shoot up when canceled. You did it, Mary!
Pre-release photos looked so much better. And $57k?!
Why the heck did Honda decide to hitch its wagon to this dumpster fire with the new Prologue?
I saw this at the LA Auto show. Looks very cheap in inside. The dash and interior are not up to par..!! 😢
You can count on 💯% the average Chevy dealership doesn't know how to fix the problems. Seen this movie before.
If you want further proof of what a pain in the backside charging can be - there is a guy who drove his Rivan with a trailer and towing a heavy load, I think 10,000 lbs. He was only getting about 100 miles per charge; he was near out of range He had to find a level 3 charger but when he tried all the bays were full; plus they are not pull through like at a gas station they were like parking spots. He had to go to a level 2 charger, charge for nearly an hour to get 10 miles range so he could get to the next Level 3..then once he finally got there - he had to take his trailer off or it would block all the cars, his big truck was too large for the small charge spots so he had to wait till 2 were empty so he could take two up. Charging is a total pain in the rear and not a luxury.
Just like 100 years ago when you had to buy gasoline from a drug store. Times will change.
@@jamesvandamme7786 I rarely see a EV charger that has any attendent or oversight ; even air for tires; or a bathroom; many are not near a store or place to eat. Given the long periods one may need to charge this isn't a very good situation.
@@litestuffllc7249 A lot of them are just greenwashing. But here in NY the new Thruway rest stops have chargers, every 40 miles or so. The grocery store that puts them in will get my business.
@@jamesvandamme7786 I don't think this particuar person was giving a negative report he owned the vehicle. NYC has one of the lowest EV adoption rates in the country because few people have a garage; so they'd have to use a super charger if they have a Tesla; that ups the cost per mile quite a bit. This would follow in most of the older cities where homes were built before the automobile and people park in the street. Another complicating factor is NYC has pretty bad crime so you'd not want to leave your $60,000 vehicle sitting charging unattended or even on the street.
GM and other legacy automakers are at least 10 years behind Tesla, BYD and other Chinese EV makers in software/technology. Too many bean counters worried about sourcing the cheapest components they can.
Chinese update cycle is every 6 months…legacy is 5 years.
No I am not roger Geyer - look on you tube at Tesla Model Y 2022 model : charge in 15 minutes. The battery was optimized when he charged it, It was not hot or cold both which would slow charging - He got 40% charge in 15 minutes. Due to heating Tesla intentionally slows down the charging rate to avoid fires, so had he gone on to charge to 80% even a Tesla Model Y on a supercharger type 3 takes 40-50 mintues - to only 80%. 2023 Bolt would take hours to charge.
GMs "Mary Barra did it again" -... FAIL!😂LOL
GM's handling of this vehicle is enough to steer me away from their brands as a whole. I'm tired of companies putting out trash that hasn't properly been designed, manufactured, and tested. this is completely unacceptable
GM selling the Blazer for close to the price of their Cadillac Lyriq EV, me thinks Mary Barra did it again.😂
Unlikely that all those things went bad, they probably have a common source, like a bad ground or a connector that loosened up.
Or idiot programmers.
Remember this was a purchased vehicle, not a review or prototype vehicle…friggin purchased.😂
Having 2000cc diesel heart as a stand by would be a sensible Idea.
Shame it does look really good.
When will Mary get fired ??? 57k ??? Are you joking ??? One positive point : look of Blazer not bad at all...
Sounds like a ground short. A GS can cause the entire car to freak out.
The competition is coming 😂
Sure it wasnt a rebaged Range Rover.....sorry JLR owners.......ex owner here.
Blazer? A prophetic name?
Bummer 😮
I don’t have high hopes for the Honda/Acura prologue/ZDX…
And the fans at gminsidenews call this a Tesla rival ! 😂
Yes, it is a POS but it was Motortrend’s magazine car of the year😅
Sounds like just one fault, something is disturbing the communikation bus.
could have been caused by a bad 12 volt battery
And how hard is it to CHECK a 12 volt battery? And shouldn't top diagnosticians know to check the obvious, based on overall symptomology?
GM. What a joke, re quality.
A lot of mayonnaise on this electrical gremlin. I'd suggest you've whipped this one up way too far for what is ultimately a common kind of issue for all manufacturers, including Tesla
I would have expected this from Vinfast but even those didn't fail that bad.
When quality is job NONE
This is stupid. There are not 20 different things that have failed here. Most likely all these trouble codes are caused by low voltage or a bad connection in one of the systems.
All the vehicles different systems are connected to each other. If one has a problem, they all detect it and set their own codes.
How on earth is this considered a small vehicle?
They've made the Hummer and the Bolt so it's not like they don't know how to make an EV that actually drives and charges as a minimum.
Skipped testing and rushed to market probably
Bolt was among the bottom 10 reliable vehicles as well at launch. GM is just back to pre- 2008 bankruptcy activity. Build trash and let marketing do the heavy lifting. Hope nobody catches on.
Thanks for sharing this insanity. I was hoping to buy one. Will take at least a year to restore trust in GM.
This is all on Mary's hands.
Luxury and EV are opposites - sitting in freezing or sweltering weather while your car charges for 50 minutes if that; has all the luxury of jacking up a car along the side of the road to change a flat; which usually takes less time.
Let's make it 15 to 20 minutes in A/C luxury, if you're not hurrying to get snacks or other pressing problems before you get back to your car. I love 'em, at the least, so far, the one I really love.
As if most people don't charge at home. As if in the real world, charging isn't getting quick, AND you can sit in heat or A/C while it charges.
But do keep making nonsense up because like Trump, I'll believe what your ilk lies about. /s
Fire Mary Barra!
Perhaps the workers don’t want build these cars.
Only thing was the tire pressure😂😂