I don't bag on air (pun intended), but to answer the question of "is air suspension good for racing?"...racing is a sport, and in any sport, if you wish to TRULY compete, you need to not hamper yourself. You look at what the professionals do. No professional racing team runs air. No major performance car company runs air on their track-ready or hyper cars. These companies like Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, BMW, Porsche, etc etc have access to literally HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars to design these cars. They could have whatever they want. They chose coil-overs. As far as I am concerned, that is case closed. Now can you go racing on air suspension? Absolutely. Just like you can play Basketball while wearing sandals, use a plastic bat to play Baseball, or put on a bike helmet and go play Football. Just don't expect to be competitive.
You can adjust ride height using collar on damper, just like coilovers on my Airlift kit. Before I did that I felt similar, disappointed and not being able to adjust ride height independent of spring rate (bag pressure)
Dakota never gave me the cheap pop for converting him lolol. but air in the winter is tricky. It all depends on where you live and what your roads are like. Although lines are important but your lines should be fully secured during proper installation, not so much a seasonal deal. The main thing to "worry" about in winter is your valves freezing or failing from condensation in lines/tank. So HAVING and actively draining your traps and tank are everything! Not only that but trying to keep any ice chunks/slush from freezing on the surface of the actual bag. This can cause friction to further wear on the bag. When installing your struts/bags you NEED to act like they are 0.5mm thin or less, so during proper installation you must ensure that there is nothing rubbing on the bag. If you're worried about reliability of the management always go with a "plug and play" like the Airlift Performance 3p/h/s. Otherwise you can piece your own stuff together. There are more things you can do in the winter like warming your valves to ensure that they wont freeze but with cold air traveling through warm valves condensation is only natural, and that's when the air brake antifreeze comes into frame. This is just some added notes from a random boi on the interwebs.
I'd like more information on how to measure for air ride parts, how to mount different types of bags on different suspensions, etc. I see cups and some need welding, drilling, cutting, and some just fit right in and I've had no luck finding answers on how exactly folks are sizing/fitting their bags.
My question would be finding the proper clearance for installing a big break kit on my gs300 on air ride. What I should look out for or what I can do to make sure the bags and tires or brake rotors aren’t making contact.
Is there such a thing as entry level air suspension kit? yes the endo CVT tank is cool and wish i could buy the kit that cost as much as i paid for my car but any kits for more of a budget? But still reliable?
Coming from someone who has both I feel the complete opposite. Air suspension for daily use on public roads. Coilovers for track or project car. My car on air suspension doesn't require awkward driving or exaggerated turning to clear steep driveways, speed bumps or inclines that comes with daily driving.
A easier water solution is to use a dessicant dryer just like stock air rides cars like mine. I pull it out every two years and dry the beads and put it back. Factory setup lasted 339 000 miles, and my friend's did 252 000miles before front bags started leaking and thats in humid, cold eastern canada.
Ok kind of a lengthy question but my dream car right now is japan imported 1995 993 Porsche and I’ve been planning this build for it for a while once I buy it but I really took inspiration from three different places the rwb 993, the speedster 993, and Gunther Werks 400R GT3 993 RS and I really want to make a one of a kind 993 that not only looks good but a supercar killer that just kill cars on the track or any type of race but it would also be my day to day car so do you suggest air suspension or coil overs
I'm rather new to air suspension. I recently bought a 2013 scion tc with an air suspension system. And I would very much appreciate any tips as far as maintenance and proper care for an air suspesnsion system. For instance, I'm not sure if I should replace my air bags, as I said I just got the tC, and I wouldn't want my air bag to pop or anything like that.
I'm part of a few air suspension forums. I would look into joining those. People will post their issues in those groups and typically it's never anything regarding blown airbags. On the rare occasions that it is - it's usually due to 1. A bad install ( bolts in wheel wells not filed down and rubbing against bags ) 2. when someone buys rims with the vehicles recommended offset but not factoring in that the bags are wider than stock springs and the wheels rub against the bags. I've never once see someone post about their bags popping . For them to blow on their own you'd have to be inflating them more than the manufacturers recommended pressure limit. I would say for maintenance just be sure to keep the bags clean of dirt and elements. If you live where it snows keep the salt off them. When you take your car to the car wash - wash off your bags as well.
@@blkeclipsel2400 Your are the shit my man. Good looking out! I Appreciate your tips and advice because not that many people do share their experience or knowledge, so you the shit for that. Much love and respect ✌🏾
@@Bvasquez1503 no problem at all brother. You can find some groups on Facebook. Airlift performance owners is my favorite. A lot of experienced people on there sharing info and troubleshooting tips. While bags popping is very rare that's not to say that other things cant go wrong. Leaks in tank fittings, air lines. But that's typically due to poor install. If you haven't had any leaks by now - then the previous owner either knew what he was doing or he took it to a professional. Some of the most common and inevitable issues are worn pillow balls. That seems to be notorious with airlift performance struts. It won't leave you stranded but you will hear terrible sounds coming from them until replaced. Blown fuses due to a compressor going out or faulty check valve. Because of that I purchased two compressors with a harness in the event one goes out I still have a backup. I also invested in an SMC check valve which are better than the ones that come with the kit. For peace of mind you could also purchase an emergency kit which contains extra lines, fuses, fittings etc. The check valve and emergency kit are both available on bagriders.com. Thankfully I haven't had to use the emergency kit yet. One thing I forgot to mention as far as maintenance aside from washing your bags. You'd want to periodically drain water from your tank. You should have a water trap installed.
Air suspension is not illegal in all states. Lifted trucks are not illegal in almost any state. I don’t know where this information came from Also there are air bags setups that adjust height and can separately adjust rate (stiffness) of the bag. They are basically a bag inside a bag that air up with one lifting the car and the other pulling the car down. So you can adjust the spring rate at any height
Airlift systems have multiple presets. I have stock height, Low cruise height, slammed height and extremely high height. You can actually lift the car way higher than stock height - if anything it assists you in putting the car on jacks.
It depends on your vehicle and it's weight also your rim and tire size . Luckily airlift has the performance series you can adjust dampning, camber and it has threaded locks just like coilovers. Because of this it will take some tinkering. Regarding pressure typically the more air in the bags the harsher the ride. However if its not enough air it will also be harsher. You have to find a middle ground. When i got my car back from an authorized airlift installer it was smoother than stock but bouncy. it took me about a month of tinkering to get it just the way I personally wanted it.
Jeremy Acevedo if you going to do allat shit get performance bags over slam series bags. i have slam series & theyre meant to be driven low(technically/genealy speaking) but the performance bags you can customize your dampening, camber etc
Damon of DDE runs bags that are meant to be beat on, and he has already broken 2 struts. I think if you are seriously planning to drift your car, you should get coil-overs.
I have a 2014 Corolla that I lowered with coilovers. About 6” lower than stock height. This only lasted a few months until I started to get a lot of noise from the cv axles. So sadly, I returned to stock setup with lowering springs. What options do I have when it comes to the axles? I haven’t seen any videos addressing this issue. For some reason these axles don’t like to be straight. Are there ways to compensate for this or am I looking at airbags as my only option? Keeping the car reliable has been part of my goal as far as mods are concerned.
these are cover beats from popular songs to avoid copyright infringement, way back in the day when i first started watching them they used a beat from Lil Uzi Vert, "XO TOUR LIFE", like it was meth.
Shit I wish my airtek kit was as easy as airlift to install I’ve had the kit sitting in my garage for 2 months now because Idk how to Install it and there’s literally nobody online that has installed it so I have no help from the internet and I’m not gonna pay someone a thousand bucks to do it RIP me that’s y u get what u pay for 😒
you'll figure it out man hope you have by now, lots of people do we crazy sht to their cars with no plan. might have to get creative but it will be worth it!
Y’all had the same beat running for 13 minutes. That needs to change fr fr. For a video this length you should quietly switch between like 3-4 beats. I liked the video but honestly it bothered me a few minutes in.
Ok kind of a lengthy question but my dream car right now is japan imported 1995 993 Porsche and I’ve been planning this build for it for a while once I buy it but I really took inspiration from three different places the rwb 993, the speedster 993, and Gunther Werks 400R GT3 993 RS and I really want to make a one of a kind 993 that not only looks good but a supercar killer that just kill cars on the track or any type of race but it would also be my day to day car so do you suggest air suspension or coil overs
I don't bag on air (pun intended), but to answer the question of "is air suspension good for racing?"...racing is a sport, and in any sport, if you wish to TRULY compete, you need to not hamper yourself. You look at what the professionals do.
No professional racing team runs air. No major performance car company runs air on their track-ready or hyper cars.
These companies like Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren, BMW, Porsche, etc etc have access to literally HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars to design these cars. They could have whatever they want. They chose coil-overs. As far as I am concerned, that is case closed.
Now can you go racing on air suspension? Absolutely. Just like you can play Basketball while wearing sandals, use a plastic bat to play Baseball, or put on a bike helmet and go play Football. Just don't expect to be competitive.
Perfectly said
ruclips.net/video/tSKGPIxKkWQ/видео.html well worth a watch
You guys should do an Air Suspension give away!!! 👍🏾
Hey whats up Air Industries?
Luv this channel! No judging cause I'm an aftermarket freak; but rather, welcoming because of it.
You can adjust ride height using collar on damper, just like coilovers on my Airlift kit. Before I did that I felt similar, disappointed and not being able to adjust ride height independent of spring rate (bag pressure)
Whoa Dakota went from Cobalt SS to EVO X to Focus ST? Damn that's awesome. I wonder what made him go from EVO to ST
“Winter could be a problem, here’s how to handle it”
*Laughs in SoCal*
Dakota never gave me the cheap pop for converting him lolol. but air in the winter is tricky. It all depends on where you live and what your roads are like. Although lines are important but your lines should be fully secured during proper installation, not so much a seasonal deal. The main thing to "worry" about in winter is your valves freezing or failing from condensation in lines/tank. So HAVING and actively draining your traps and tank are everything! Not only that but trying to keep any ice chunks/slush from freezing on the surface of the actual bag. This can cause friction to further wear on the bag. When installing your struts/bags you NEED to act like they are 0.5mm thin or less, so during proper installation you must ensure that there is nothing rubbing on the bag.
If you're worried about reliability of the management always go with a "plug and play" like the Airlift Performance 3p/h/s. Otherwise you can piece your own stuff together. There are more things you can do in the winter like warming your valves to ensure that they wont freeze but with cold air traveling through warm valves condensation is only natural, and that's when the air brake antifreeze comes into frame. This is just some added notes from a random boi on the interwebs.
Thanks for the tips man very good advice!
I'd like more information on how to measure for air ride parts, how to mount different types of bags on different suspensions, etc.
I see cups and some need welding, drilling, cutting, and some just fit right in and I've had no luck finding answers on how exactly folks are sizing/fitting their bags.
Now someone needs to make it to fit me Australian built falcon with the full set up can't find it anywhere for New Zealand
Thanks for the information.
Hi, you should do a video about different fitment like poke, flush, etc, (explain the difference between them) btw good video 😉
Great suggestion, Thank you for the support!
My question would be finding the proper clearance for installing a big break kit on my gs300 on air ride. What I should look out for or what I can do to make sure the bags and tires or brake rotors aren’t making contact.
Where's Linus?
Is there such a thing as entry level air suspension kit? yes the endo CVT tank is cool and wish i could buy the kit that cost as much as i paid for my car but any kits for more of a budget? But still reliable?
Absolutely, We have a couple of options! Shoot us an email at shop@fitmentindustries.com and we can help you out with this!
Air Suspension for 2019? hella glad I caught this wave before everybody started copying me. jkjkjkjkjk
This actually convinced me to drop coil overs xD
if you want to daily your car-- coilovers. if you want to lower a project car-- air suspension
Coming from someone who has both I feel the complete opposite. Air suspension for daily use on public roads. Coilovers for track or project car. My car on air suspension doesn't require awkward driving or exaggerated turning to clear steep driveways, speed bumps or inclines that comes with daily driving.
A easier water solution is to use a dessicant dryer just like stock air rides cars like mine. I pull it out every two years and dry the beads and put it back. Factory setup lasted 339 000 miles, and my friend's did 252 000miles before front bags started leaking and thats in humid, cold eastern canada.
Ok kind of a lengthy question but my dream car right now is japan imported 1995 993 Porsche and I’ve been planning this build for it for a while once I buy it but I really took inspiration from three different places the rwb 993, the speedster 993, and Gunther Werks 400R GT3 993 RS and I really want to make a one of a kind 993 that not only looks good but a supercar killer that just kill cars on the track or any type of race but it would also be my day to day car so do you suggest air suspension or coil overs
any suggestions on how to reduce bouncing? not sure if I stiffen the suspension or ride softer will help reduce please any help is much appreciated.
I'm rather new to air suspension. I recently bought a 2013 scion tc with an air suspension system. And I would very much appreciate any tips as far as maintenance and proper care for an air suspesnsion system. For instance, I'm not sure if I should replace my air bags, as I said I just got the tC, and I wouldn't want my air bag to pop or anything like that.
I'm part of a few air suspension forums. I would look into joining those. People will post their issues in those groups and typically it's never anything regarding blown airbags. On the rare occasions that it is - it's usually due to
1. A bad install ( bolts in wheel wells not filed down and rubbing against bags )
2. when someone buys rims with the vehicles recommended offset but not factoring in that the bags are wider than stock springs and the wheels rub against the bags.
I've never once see someone post about their bags popping . For them to blow on their own you'd have to be inflating them more than the manufacturers recommended pressure limit. I would say for maintenance just be sure to keep the bags clean of dirt and elements. If you live where it snows keep the salt off them. When you take your car to the car wash - wash off your bags as well.
@@blkeclipsel2400 Your are the shit my man. Good looking out! I Appreciate your tips and advice because not that many people do share their experience or knowledge, so you the shit for that. Much love and respect ✌🏾
@@Bvasquez1503 no problem at all brother. You can find some groups on Facebook. Airlift performance owners is my favorite. A lot of experienced people on there sharing info and troubleshooting tips.
While bags popping is very rare that's not to say that other things cant go wrong. Leaks in tank fittings, air lines. But that's typically due to poor install. If you haven't had any leaks by now - then the previous owner either knew what he was doing or he took it to a professional.
Some of the most common and inevitable issues are worn pillow balls. That seems to be notorious with airlift performance struts. It won't leave you stranded but you will hear terrible sounds coming from them until replaced. Blown fuses due to a compressor going out or faulty check valve. Because of that I purchased two compressors with a harness in the event one goes out I still have a backup. I also invested in an SMC check valve which are better than the ones that come with the kit. For peace of mind you could also purchase an emergency kit which contains extra lines, fuses, fittings etc. The check valve and emergency kit are both available on bagriders.com. Thankfully I haven't had to use the emergency kit yet.
One thing I forgot to mention as far as maintenance aside from washing your bags. You'd want to periodically drain water from your tank. You should have a water trap installed.
Air suspension is not illegal in all states. Lifted trucks are not illegal in almost any state. I don’t know where this information came from
Also there are air bags setups that adjust height and can separately adjust rate (stiffness) of the bag. They are basically a bag inside a bag that air up with one lifting the car and the other pulling the car down. So you can adjust the spring rate at any height
I need that hoodie 👀🔥
yo, sick G men
will my 1 inch tire poke work with air suspension
But does the AirLift water trap really empty automatically?? I have it but gotta trust it drains
so, do you guys assist with older car air ride or just new cars?
Alexander Vargas!!
PLEASE SOMEONE TELL ME THE SONG IN THE BACK
How do you lift the car with jack on air suspension
Airlift systems have multiple presets. I have stock height, Low cruise height, slammed height and extremely high height. You can actually lift the car way higher than stock height - if anything it assists you in putting the car on jacks.
But if a bag breaks will I be stuck framed out in the middle of the road?
Yeah lol 😂Unless you really really trust duck tape lol
is there are difference in ride quality when air out/in?
It depends on your vehicle and it's weight also your rim and tire size . Luckily airlift has the performance series you can adjust dampning, camber and it has threaded locks just like coilovers. Because of this it will take some tinkering. Regarding pressure typically the more air in the bags the harsher the ride. However if its not enough air it will also be harsher. You have to find a middle ground. When i got my car back from an authorized airlift installer it was smoother than stock but bouncy. it took me about a month of tinkering to get it just the way I personally wanted it.
Wait, I drift like on a Daily basic, do I go coilovers or air suspension?
Jeremy Acevedo if you going to do allat shit get performance bags over slam series bags. i have slam series & theyre meant to be driven low(technically/genealy speaking) but the performance bags you can customize your dampening, camber etc
Damon of DDE runs bags that are meant to be beat on, and he has already broken 2 struts. I think if you are seriously planning to drift your car, you should get coil-overs.
Coilovers 100%
Coilovers 10/10!
What are the name of the wheels in thumbnail ?
Check out more pictures and specs for that car in our gallery here! --> bit.ly/2sVro73
Fitment Industries I know the car but I don’t know the name of the wheels on it
No offense, but Jasper>Jarrod
Google's top question about Kumho 🤔 what's the history? 🤔
Holy shit. Is Jarrod related to Alex?
No way!
I have a 2014 Corolla that I lowered with coilovers. About 6” lower than stock height. This only lasted a few months until I started to get a lot of noise from the cv axles. So sadly, I returned to stock setup with lowering springs. What options do I have when it comes to the axles? I haven’t seen any videos addressing this issue. For some reason these axles don’t like to be straight. Are there ways to compensate for this or am I looking at airbags as my only option?
Keeping the car reliable has been part of my goal as far as mods are concerned.
Shoot us an email at wheels@fitmentindustries.com and we might be able to help you out!
50k spring gvng
Who makes these beats?
these are cover beats from popular songs to avoid copyright infringement, way back in the day when i first started watching them they used a beat from Lil Uzi Vert, "XO TOUR LIFE", like it was meth.
@@ScrubbinLyfe but what is this beat tho
You right, About the XO Tour Life thing...
Stretched tires look cool, stretched ears are weird.
Do you agree?
Ehhh I don't really have a preference 😂
Shit I wish my airtek kit was as easy as airlift to install I’ve had the kit sitting in my garage for 2 months now because Idk how to Install it and there’s literally nobody online that has installed it so I have no help from the internet and I’m not gonna pay someone a thousand bucks to do it RIP me that’s y u get what u pay for 😒
you'll figure it out man hope you have by now, lots of people do we crazy sht to their cars with no plan. might have to get creative but it will be worth it!
Would you recommend Airtekk, since its been 2 years now? Lmao
@@TheOrangeKou fuck no ! Lmao shitty ass kit just save and get the good shit I learned my lesson. That kit shorted my car
Notification gannng
Where’s Alex
Check our newest video!
am i the real first one
Despacito
Lol "hitting backroads" is not beating the piss out of your car.
Stretched tires just annoy me.
Y’all had the same beat running for 13 minutes. That needs to change fr fr. For a video this length you should quietly switch between like 3-4 beats. I liked the video but honestly it bothered me a few minutes in.
Fair enough I'll let everyone know of your suggestion! 🙏🏼
Ti ko tbh I didn’t even realize that until you mentioned it
pls dont say "stancey boy"
💀
what are you guy's experience with subwoofers and air systems? do leaks become a common issue? I'd love to hear your input. Great video guys!
Ok kind of a lengthy question but my dream car right now is japan imported 1995 993 Porsche and I’ve been planning this build for it for a while once I buy it but I really took inspiration from three different places the rwb 993, the speedster 993, and Gunther Werks 400R GT3 993 RS and I really want to make a one of a kind 993 that not only looks good but a supercar killer that just kill cars on the track or any type of race but it would also be my day to day car so do you suggest air suspension or coil overs