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Debunking Myths About Air Suspension
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It is a debate that is as old as time. “Is air suspension reliable?”, “ Can air ride be performance based ?”, and many more. On today’s episode, Dakota debunks many of the legends and lies about air suspension. Also, let us know if there are any other folk tales about air. Drop a comment below!
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some people say air gives your car a bumpy or bad ride
@@gaigevanausdal9694 its true. but i think the issue is not tuning it right
We semi trucks have run air ride for years. I've driven over 350,000 miles and had one issue once. Once. And I routinely have my truck loaded with over 40,000 pounds. This tech is way more mature than people think.
Good enough for me.
Automotive Reminder of the Day:
Even with tech progressing every single year respect the sheer mass of a fully loaded trailer or flat bed. That and forklifts. I didn't realize a Smart Car sized forklift usually weighs around 8,000-9,000 lb.
@@crisbowman lol yup forklifts are chunky little dudes. Have driven them at many different jobs over the years. Whenever I'm getting loaded or unloaded, they bounce the truck up and down when they enter the trailer. It's very noticable.
I died when he said "i ate him"
The only myth I want you to debunk is that it's expensive. Please please please debunk that. Thanks
I mean, compared to a solid set of coils air is kinda pricey. A decent set of bc coils is ~1k. Decent set of bags will run you at least 2500 brand new
@@Koolblue900 bro.. I think 1k is pricey haha. I have a big ass car(Infiniti q70) and as it is currently, when I park I often scratch under my bumper on stock height. Sometimes I have to ride the curb. Bags are my only option and I'll need preset height adjustment on the fly. Between wheels tires and air that's 7-10 grand. Solid nope for me right now
Jamaican Me Crazy 1) stop pulling forward so damn far. Fixed that issue.
2) if it cost you $10,000 to set up air suspension wheels and tires, everything better be gold plated and professionally installed by the ceo of AirRide.
liltuck737 yeah that must be if you get some Rohana wheels and brand new airlift top of the line package and have someone else put everything on.
basic bc coils are the "entry" level. Anything thats actual performance starts 2K+
Something to remember with air, literally every semi uses air bags and brakes and they run everywhere in every imaginable weather conditions literally millions of miles a year across the globe. It’s tried and tested, it’s just a little different from normal suspension setups
A good old chat, Driver to Suspension!
Turtle3000 😂
My biggest concerns about air is taking up space in the trunk, installing/setting it up wrong, and unknown limitation that I may not know about. (and cost)
Myth #6: Air bags can’t mimic high spring rates. Oh wait...
right? bumps hurt now that i have air ride because i dont bottom out on them onto my bumpstops anymore because THEY'RE ACTUALLY PRETTY FUCKING STIFF!!! 1980 was a long time ago air suspension is pretty fucking good these days.
My 2018 Lexus IS300 F Sport is on Full Airlift 3P and I daily it everyday for work here in DTLA and use it for Road Trips as far as 400 Miles one way, snow (Big Bear), horrible roads, etc.
.Never had an Issue/Leaks/Pops
.Maintenance literally takes 30 secs and i do it twice a month when cleaning my car
Feels super comfy and can easily clear these deep driveways here in DTLA, if you are debating between coils vs air i would 100% recommend air.
Alex Perez terrific info. Thank you for this.
@@johnr1191 No problem! It's not as scary as people think!
Go on 30k miles on bags, daily driver, multiple road trips, no issues minus a bad ground that kept blowing fuses. Ran lines through the car instead of under so no worry about debris hitting a line. I have no regrets love my Jetta on bags.
Personally I have the air ride 3h system and I live in buffalo ny and have had no problems with my suspension in the cold. Just gotta wash the salt off and make sure you empty that water trap
Ive ran my coilovers for 2 years now in buffalo. Yeah it sucks when there a bunch of snow, but I'd like the option to air up when if I needed to
Josh Gronowski when we had our storm last week I was driving pretty lifted and slow but even then it doesn’t really “lift” your car all but an inch to maybe two. I’m still a snow plow in the snow 😂
Yoh bro, how is the ride quality compared to stock, is it smooth and floaty, cos thats what i would like.
My ride is rough. And feel every bump, I should get air ride
mburi kiama when I very first sat in it and did the first miles before adjusting the dampening it was an extremely stiff ride, however after they got broken in a little and I played with my dampening it is such an amazing ride. A little stiffer than stock on my wrx but nothing uncomfortable. Given it is on my daily so I have gotten used to how she rides.
I asked about this question about 3 weeks ago and you guys made a video about it. Big thanks to you guys helping others out and destroying the myth. Now im going to get a set of airrides now and see how that goes! Thanks fitment industries 👍
It’s -30 DAILY out here. Can’t ride air here for sure. RIP
I drive a audi a8l and s8 with air ride in -40C in winter with NO PROBLEMS. So do ALL the commercial trucks. The front bags lasted 539 000 km and 16 years before I replaced them! If you can run tires, you can run air ride.
Hello...what happened to the fooking stream...I didn’t forget
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Fitment Industries I understand
Dakota u need to be on the cam 100% man u got the personality and u talk well, compared to ur bro that sounds like the auction house master speed talking ya into a new car typa dude!!
but i am a fan of your group mariokart races haha
-P3T3R
Dude. Thank you for this. I'm inheriting a 2005 Chrysler 300c, and I was so afraid of reliability, maintenance, and install issues
Just finished my 3P install a few weeks ago. Def can be performance based, I beat on my car a lot and so far so good. Hope to be in the 10s on air this year 👀
popup instruction manuals are a great idea! I'm gonna steal that...
BEST SHORTAND SWEET INFORMATION!! Finally a quick and to the point video!!!!!
You guys need to do a video on the history of Avid1 wheels. They have some awesome looking Volk RE30 like wheels.
Do a video on air cups
So what flavor is Alex. Did u have problems eating him? Lol love ur content. Cant wait for driver to driver
Ain’t gon lie I been stressing on my decision wether or not to get bags but you sold me 100%
"Spirited driving in Mexico" *lives in Wisconsin*
You can daily drive air, you can track air, you can drift air.
I wonder are they confortable enough for every day drive?
Can you make a video showing how to add air brake antifreeze to and drain condensation from the Quadra-Lift air suspension system? I don’t think it can be done with that system. If not, can you ever use to a kit that would enable us to do that? I can’t find anything about draining condensation from it or how to add air brake antifreeze to it. The air tank is located behind/under the back seat and I think one has to take out the spare tire to access it. It’s a closed loop system and is factory filled with nitrogen, which is supposed to be less problematic than regular air when temps change, meaning the air pressure doesn’t drop as much.
What kind of anti freeze do you use? brand/type? TIA.
2:10 lol
“I ate him” lol 😂
I would add under maintenance: check the lock collars on your struts every so often....
Just had one loosen up enough to let a front strut rotate to where the airline contacted the wheel.
Yeah it's true, us Michigan people are like "F#$% winter's coming"
Yep facts. My ex Vw Golf Mk4 v6 was running full Airlift Performance and 2p management. Never had issues. My current Audi A6 C7 3.0 Tfsi is running Performance Airride by Bilstein, with Airlift 3P management. No issues, you can easily push it hard. Everything runs fine. And it's cold here in Belgium too. I know at least about 500 cars on air. If it was that bad, it wouldn't sell like ice cream 😁😁
Life on air🥰
all I want to know is opinion on using air for an AWD wagon that I wanna lower stance w a set of dish wheels and get higher clearance w a set of off road. Is this reasonable and realistic? Thank you for the great content and info.
We need another episode of driver to driver Dakota. ASAP
TOMORROW!!!!
And please mention the blue smoothies aka the Busch lattes
Lol
Only reason I don’t plan on going air is because I had friends who’ve had bad experiences racing with an air lift kit. I race my car heavily! I don’t want to take the risk
Well, you can race on air but i don't think you should lol
Air lift company has roots in stock car racing BTW. You can definitely race with a quality air setup
Go watch Gears and Gasoline they have a video on that topic
Oh just buy a dog 🐩 them
Love how they used Robbie for reference, when he abandoned air all together
Elias Hyman he’s gonna bag his BRZ
@@brysonsmalls8519 ahhhhhh, yeah that's fair
I have the option to get bags rn and honestly they just seem unrealistic might just throw springs on idk
My 2003 Audi Allroad Quattro has air suspension. I loved it when it worked but now it doesn't. I do not have any knowledge about it other then what I learned from your video. My car is all the way down with air light flashing. Any help figuring out what is wrong with it would be greatly appreciated. Garage I stopped at said it is very expensive to diagnose.
I got 3P system for my 350. Took me a day to do it by myself. Been running it for a year so far and no problems at all. Also live by Milwaukee.
I just added Airlift to my 350Z. Do I need to pick a ride height and align it or how does that work?
@@z33andme71 yeah find the height you like to ride at and get aligned at that height.
@@BudgetBuilds3 I know its late but im swapping my z with a 408 stroker ive been working on. I want air suspension but am worried the bags may. well. POP. due to torque and hp. its gonna be a street/racetrack car. making like 700whp and 500+ Tq...
@@AirsoftWolfie it will be fine as long as you make sure it’s not rubbing on anything. Airlift has videos of them tracking cars with bags. I haven’t tracked mine yet but want to.
@@BudgetBuilds3 okay. I just wanted to make sure they wouldn’t burst under super hard acceleration. Just seems like they would
Live in Minnesota winters we sometimes get almost -40 degree days how much anti freeze do I need to run?
Does anyone know why there are limited kits available for AWD vehicles? I have a challenger GT and cannot seem to find air suspension compatible with it simply because it is AWD. Not sure on the mechanics of it.
my 1996 range rover came stock with air ride "they call it EAS (electronic air suspension)" and 4 different settings for it. i love the air ride and for a car that is 24 years old its stock air ride is going strong still! sure i have had to change the airbags out due to old age and cracking but that is about all ive done haven't had to change my compressor or tank or airlines. oh and i live in northern Canada where it realy gets cold
Thank you for this video I wasn’t gonna but air because of these myths, now I might
where the static boys at
Flick MyBic static only
Somewhere typing “⚡️static bro” under someone’s iG comments
Stuck on a speed bump
@@DocR16 😂
Joshua R. Only got stuck once peasant😎
Height based vs pressure based, do you lose a little alignment every time or aren’t quite at the correct alignment everytime when you air up?
Dakota, I know I've talked a heap of shit on some of your other videos, so I want to be sure to let you know when you get it right, too. Bang-up job today man. You sound like you maybe had one drink, if you even drank at all. Really, you've come a long way in a short time, and I'm proud of you. Hell, maybe I'll even bag my e39, just for you.
All jokes aside, great video, bro.
Appreciate you - Dakota ❤
Wouldn't mind having bags on my Camry, it beats eating every pothole and scraping subframe trying to get out of the driveway XD
Truth.. And more truth.. there's million ways and more ways to get a point across.. but how many people actually get the point understand it and be able to use it to help themselves if not there's always a shop that'll do it and there's a reason why quality is expensive products are one thing and craftsmanship is another
Can you recommend good air suspension for a 2021 charger hellcat widebody? Thank you in advance.
Airlift suspension bro
I would’ve believed all of these if you showed your focused!! Showed the frs and porche though.
So I have some pretty beefy wheels/tires on, and I really dont want to go back to skinny wheels... is it possible to preset the lowest height to be just above where the fenders would rub/hit the wheel, or do I have to make a choice between air and tire width? I feel like I can just make sure to never air out all the way, but that sounds kind of risky...
At least on airlift 3p, you have something like 5 customizable height presets. Anywhere from full lift to get up driveways all the way to laying frame. The issue with wide wheels is you can end up rubbing on the rubber bag itself, causing a ton of premature wear.
Matt Bowlin aaah dang I see. I mean... theyre not insanely wide. Right now it looks like the fender is perfectly in line with the tire. And Im also thinking of getting stretched tires to give it a more flush look. My question was more if I can customize the “aired out” possition so its not “frame on the ground”. But now im wondering about this new issue you brought up hahaha i gotta look into that.
What wheels are those bronze 5 spoke next to your head?? 👀
Hey bro need some advice, I do around 3000km a month daily driving for my job to different locations. I really want air but can't afford another car rn what would be your opinion
Coilovers are a great option
Can you daily a car with airsus? Here in the philippines with roads that can smash any wheel, and can definitely smash some bags, i think you are better of with coils.
Not in the philippines my guy lol unless you commute thru expressways
Probably fine if you don't run low profile tires. I couldn't imagine the stupidity of using low profile tires in the Philippines
Is venting my tank of moisture from my drain line the same as emptying my water trap? Because I usually just vent it every few days and haven't bothered to look at my water trap in awhile.
if it's AirLift it's automatic
Air ride is not hard to install!
Me: 😃😃😃
You just need some friend’s
Me: dam……🥲🥲🥲
What about alignment, will tires wear out faster?
How do you adjust the damper on airlift?
Just send it! It will be worth it , I don't want to go back to coils. AirLift uses Bc racing shocks on all their stuts and they feel great
I did a ghetto homemade bag over coilover set up on some truharts for my g35 and i have had no problems so far whatsoever. Im young and in college so i didnt have enough money to drop money on a real setup so i went ahead and saved a BUNCH making my own. I can reassure that as long as you take your time setting up your system and double check you are not rubbing on anything, it will work perfectly fine. I daily my car to school and nothing has happened. Just be smart and take your time and you can air out and flex on people 😎😎😎
air is easy to install.. i had no experience with suspension besides putting drop springs in.. and i managed to install a complete air suspension setup.. read the instructions, if u can understand simple instructions, you can do it. i didnt have any help and it took a few days. the hardest part of the install, WASNT even the install, but removing my stock suspension lol.
so owning air suspension is like owning a rotary; over 90% of the problems are owner issues ... their ignorance and lack of owning up to their personal failures. Do shit right, take care of it properly, don't listen to idiots and you are golden.
Hi, I have a question. What happens if an airbag explodes or runs empty out of air while driving?
I know its late but im swapping my z with a 408 stroker ive been working on. I want air suspension but am worried the bags may. well. POP. due to torque and hp. its gonna be a street/racetrack car. making like 700whp and 500+ Tq...
Lol pop a bag 😂
Let it rub a tire and it will.
@@MrTheHillfolk so under torque it’ll be okay?
@@AirsoftWolfie squatting from a big torque hit on a launch isn't gonna do anything.
The front bags (and even the rears) are so thick even when deflated you can barely push the bag with your finger.
Not to mention 18 wheelers using them.
(Actually the rear bags in my kit are labeled as Firestones)
@@MrTheHillfolk okay cool. Ty
@@AirsoftWolfie ✌️
are truhart good?
Whats winter
So you want a Volkswagen jetta video pls or driver to driver with jetta owner
Yes
I want air ride for me e90 but cant find it on your page
The hype god taking over the channel! Beware of the yeeting of your job Alex.
I can't wait to be able to get my kit
What happened to the stream???
It crashed last night
Is air suspension expensive and do they make it for old British cars
I do see a lot of airlift performace manifold issues on the forums. lets see some other air ride companies in the game
airlift
d2
tru hart
k sport
airrex
airtekk
flyyaire
airforce
airrunner
acuuaire
air zenith
airdemand
universal air
vera
airbft
hk air
raceland
Raceland bags look decent for a budget, no management tho
The best top 4 air is : Kw Fahrwairk, Bilstein Performance Airride, AccuAir and Airlift Performance. Followed by 2 others : Airrex and Airforce. That's it. The rest is cheap shit.
I think this a good video, a lot of these facts are also true for hydraulics except for the track one 🤣
wish you had something for a 280Z
You're more funnier than Alex. I like you more. I like you lots. I love you most. 😙
more funnier* RIP english
English has left the room*
Is there anyone who's on air bags up here in Canada that ACTUALLY DRIVES IT AND NOT GARAGE BABY IT? Like how is it in -30 C weather? How is it in freezing rain + snow weather? When I can't open my doors, do I also have to worry about my ride not going back up? I park outside and sometimes my car also gets plowed in by the snow trucks. Although I probably wouldn't lower it much in the winter anyway. Just in case though. Really thinking of getting it
If you have problems with air suspension it's because it was installed incorrectly. I've put well over a million miles on vehicles with air suspension in the last 25yrs.
Myth number 89, you can't get air lift/ air bags because it's old school like low rider days. Well boys, this video has all the right information, personality, great can-do attitude and most of all the type of moral support anyone needs when they're not going to have to visit the ER for busted knuckles.
Can you talk about Rayvern hydraulics
Can you drive aired up or does it hurt the system
aired up? Thats what you're supposed to do. Nobody drives their slammed car while aired down (unless you want to be a baller). Dont know what happens if you only drive it aired down. That might not be good.
nice volvo v60 tho
One thing that absolutely must be said, don't skimp, buy a quality system. I had a "Air" set up on a Harley and it was cool...when it worked. I won it in a raffle and the shop that put it in skimped on a bunch of parts, and I was constantly chasing gemlins.
dude there's nothing stopping me from tracking my base model bone stock shitbox honda civic from 2002. just send it!
edit: ok maybe there's the entry fee but i see no issue with the car!
Too cute for this professional.
Didn't really prove anything at all in this video but tell us these are all myths and gave us his own experiences. Im not denying anything hes saying is true was just looking for some more evidence than his words.
Is air suspension the most comfy street ride?
When do air bags go on sale. I need to know ! 😭😅😂
Bags suck stick to airlift I like the sleeves better
Shout out to @The LifeStyle!!!
Where can i bag my car in wisconsin???
How is air on battery and tire wear ?
Not bad at all
@@FitmentIndustries good to know. Im eyeing it for my daily cadillac ats from you guys
I can’t get air ride cause it’s not legal to do that where I live
why?? where?
Bent and twisted and popped ! You don’t want any of that. Lol. Inserts twerk video for clarity.
“What kind of video can we do to sell more air suspension?”
Have you every seen a wrc car run air suspension.
anyone else hear alex's muffled screams from within his digestive system throughout the video?
I tapped into my access air tank valve from my air suspension that runs straight to the turbo. Nothing but power baby. Plus i got 8 stickers that have 5hp each. I make guys with Lamborghinis cry
If air is good in the winter. Then why does Air lift supply trash lines with the kit? Nothing is braided or stainless