Great video! On my vw bug which was my very first bagged vehicle that I built all the bag brackets for I had no clue on bag geometry so I set it up as best as I could. I ended up taking the collapsed height and the max extended height and figured out the middle distance. From there I adjusted my suspension to the ride height I wanted and made the mounts at that middle distance of the bag travel. The bag never bottomed out or over extended and gave me a really good ride(a little on the stiffer side but not bad at all still plenty of cushion) when I would launch hard it would squat down about an inch and a half and dig(it was about 120 psi on ss6 bags) since then I've always used that middle of the travel setup at ride height with great success
I just used this video to extend the front struts on my 2014 Mustang GT. I was needing to put just over 100PSI to get my car to the desired ride height and it pretty rough. Now I can actually run the recommended PSI of 55 and the car rides so much better. And still airs out the same amount as before. Thank you!
@towedoninsta9170 It seems that his suspension was initially shortened too much, which required him to inflate it to 100 psi to achieve the desired ride height. Because the suspension was so compressed, he was likely lowering the car to its lowest point while there was still air in the bags. This meant that the full stroke of the suspension wasn't being utilized.
Just to clarify! You want to spin the damper, in the video we use the bag as a method of spinning the entire assembly. As long as the bag is locked to the damper, and your lower mount has the lockring loosened up, you can use this method.
Tip: Never never spin the bag counter clock wise (raising). You risk unthreading the bag off of the strut if you dont do it correctly. If absolutely need to raise the bags, adjust it by the lock collar that's against the bags using the spanner wrench. It's only OK to lower the bag clockwise by hand at the bag to thread it down to the lower mount.
@@reighner990 That's a great tip. In this video I was adjusting a Super Low set, and we use both an upper and lower lock ring. As long as the air spring and lock ring remain tight, and the lower is freely able to spin, you're safe to grab onto the air spring and rotate. In the case of Air Lift Performance product line, they use loctite to hold the air spring in place instead of a second lock ring.
@@bagriders should make it in a option when buying airlift struts for another lock collar to lock the bag to the strut. I’ve done custom radial bearing housing, slim/tall double bellow bags, extra lock collar to lock the bag on the strut and custom cnc top hats for front camber without trimming the strut tower using airlift performance shocks had to end making a Frankenstein air strut to meet my needs for my 2017 Honda accord 😅
Great video Will, love the recent content you’re putting out. Do you have recommended air pressures for SuperLow? At least for Air Lift, people run the bags with too much or too little air pressure, and the struts top and bottom out. It’s really important to get your ride height at mid stroke of the shock for the best ride quality.
We would be more than happy to provide the recommended air pressures for our Super Low suspension! What is the year, make and model of the car as each kit has a different ride pressure.
Could really use some help re adjusting my air ride. First time all diy. I find the most comfortable at 80psi front and 100 rear. But the truck doesn’t sit level.
I'm building a vip style LS400 and i want the ride quality premium but also lower it by a decent bit not too much maybe like 2-3 inches should i go with airlift performance kit? Or something else?
You mentioned 'premium', and that's music to our ears! Fortunately, we've crafted a kit tailor-made for the LS400, and if you're aiming for top-notch performance, the Super Low Air Suspension is precisely what you're after! It's has threaded damper bodies so you can adjust it to your likening although we always recommend leaving it how it came out of the box. Checkout some of our LS400 videos on our channel.
Novice beginner, 54 bel air , had somewhat close pressures for each wheel, for best control and comfort, shipped vehicle Sat for a while lost notes. Best recommendation on where to start over for max control and comfort, start lower pressures and cruise a bit?
That can depend on the type of damper you use front and rear. With air struts with the bag sealed to the shaft, yes we like to start at a lower pressure and test drive it. With your Bel Air, the same logic should apply, though it will be a lot less sensitive to topping out, compared to a McPherson style setup. That means a broader range of pressures will work comfortably.
@@eliacasanova4217 Having your control arms parallel to the ground at your ride pressure is a great starting point. Having it a little higher(taller) than that won't necessarily cause wobbliness but will impact your spindle and wheel camber angle. Let us know if you want more info.
Not sure if this is a major or minor issue but my bags need around 60psi just to start lifting the front. I have max load which is a good brand but maybe it’s something with the wiring. I have no leaks and rears are perfect.
How do I know if my air spring is bottoming out or topping out? Cause when I accidentally hit a small pot hole, I heard a loud-ish thud sound… but I’m following the specs you guys recommend for my GR86. This is on the Super Low suspension and I mainly hear it in the rear.
Air ride is not prone to common bottoming out issues because the PSI pushing your car upward (against gravity and downward forces) becomes increasing strong. Progressive coils springs are like this as well. So I would be with 95% odds that the sound is topping out!
When discussing 'stiffness,' we're not referring to the maximum PSI. Instead, we define 'stiff' as operating at a pressure higher than the manufacturer's recommended ride PSI. However, even at this elevated pressure, the damper retains its ability to utilize its range of travel.
The majority of our suspension offerings boast 30+ way adjustability, providing ample opportunity to tailor your ride precisely to your preferences. Should you desire assistance in optimizing your suspension setup, don't hesitate to reach out to our dedicated customer support team at sales@bagriders.com or call us at 844-404-7344. We're committed to ensuring you're equipped with the ideal pressure settings for your vehicle.
Hi I’m on airtekk struts and when I go over a bump I hear a noise on the rear struts. When I raise the psi on the rear the noise I hear when going over bumps goes away but when I lower the psi the clunk returns. How can I fix this? Thanks
It seems likely that you are bottoming out your struts. If you can thread them a small amount "shorter" similar to what we do in this video, that would be a good first step.
What sort of thumping? Are you experiencing this at the most extended point in the travel range, or the most compressed point in the travel range? Does it occur over bumps, or all the time?
@@RiseOfTheSonata2.0t I would try to thread them up to be a little taller (longer) as shown in the video, and then go for a test drive at a slightly lower pressure.
A well configured suspension being operated in the correct travel ranges will work for Motorsport or for daily driving. There's nothing about bags that prevent them from being used for drifting, so go for it!
Try adjusting your pressures in 5PSI increments to see how the car reacts. If you purchased the kit from bagriders.com please reach out to us for the recommended pressures for your air ride kit.
Finally someone talks about comfort with airrides.
Great video! On my vw bug which was my very first bagged vehicle that I built all the bag brackets for I had no clue on bag geometry so I set it up as best as I could. I ended up taking the collapsed height and the max extended height and figured out the middle distance. From there I adjusted my suspension to the ride height I wanted and made the mounts at that middle distance of the bag travel. The bag never bottomed out or over extended and gave me a really good ride(a little on the stiffer side but not bad at all still plenty of cushion) when I would launch hard it would squat down about an inch and a half and dig(it was about 120 psi on ss6 bags) since then I've always used that middle of the travel setup at ride height with great success
Great video !!! Answered a lot of questions thanks subscribing to this page
I just used this video to extend the front struts on my 2014 Mustang GT. I was needing to put just over 100PSI to get my car to the desired ride height and it pretty rough. Now I can actually run the recommended PSI of 55 and the car rides so much better. And still airs out the same amount as before. Thank you!
Heck yeah! I'm glad to hear that!
@towedoninsta9170
It seems that his suspension was initially shortened too much, which required him to inflate it to 100 psi to achieve the desired ride height. Because the suspension was so compressed, he was likely lowering the car to its lowest point while there was still air in the bags. This meant that the full stroke of the suspension wasn't being utilized.
Awesome video, so glad I found you guys for my airbag journey.
I had no idea you could spin the bag to adjust the height! Thank you for this informative video Bagriders!
Just to clarify! You want to spin the damper, in the video we use the bag as a method of spinning the entire assembly. As long as the bag is locked to the damper, and your lower mount has the lockring loosened up, you can use this method.
@@bagriders Oh I see! Thank you for clearing that up
Tip: Never never spin the bag counter clock wise (raising). You risk unthreading the bag off of the strut if you dont do it correctly. If absolutely need to raise the bags, adjust it by the lock collar that's against the bags using the spanner wrench. It's only OK to lower the bag clockwise by hand at the bag to thread it down to the lower mount.
@@reighner990 That's a great tip. In this video I was adjusting a Super Low set, and we use both an upper and lower lock ring. As long as the air spring and lock ring remain tight, and the lower is freely able to spin, you're safe to grab onto the air spring and rotate. In the case of Air Lift Performance product line, they use loctite to hold the air spring in place instead of a second lock ring.
@@bagriders should make it in a option when buying airlift struts for another lock collar to lock the bag to the strut. I’ve done custom radial bearing housing, slim/tall double bellow bags, extra lock collar to lock the bag on the strut and custom cnc top hats for front camber without trimming the strut tower using airlift performance shocks had to end making a Frankenstein air strut to meet my needs for my 2017 Honda accord 😅
Very good info👍 I want build softest possible suspension to my pick up🇹🇭
Currently learning how to wire everything up for my 3p. So far it’s easy but I think if yall could Release a Step by Step guide that would be nice .
That's definitely something we want to do.
you shouldn’t install it yourself if you need a exact step by step.
@@hellcatmd7635 Correct, we completely agree with you on that!!
You guys make amazing videos. Thank you for this video.
I try to explain this to people but they don’t understand. I’m just going to send them this video 😂😂
Great video Will, love the recent content you’re putting out. Do you have recommended air pressures for SuperLow? At least for Air Lift, people run the bags with too much or too little air pressure, and the struts top and bottom out. It’s really important to get your ride height at mid stroke of the shock for the best ride quality.
We would be more than happy to provide the recommended air pressures for our Super Low suspension! What is the year, make and model of the car as each kit has a different ride pressure.
Could really use some help re adjusting my air ride. First time all diy. I find the most comfortable at 80psi front and 100 rear. But the truck doesn’t sit level.
Measure the difference in height from the ground to fenderlip and adjust accordingly on the threaded mount
I'm building a vip style LS400 and i want the ride quality premium but also lower it by a decent bit not too much maybe like 2-3 inches should i go with airlift performance kit? Or something else?
You mentioned 'premium', and that's music to our ears! Fortunately, we've crafted a kit tailor-made for the LS400, and if you're aiming for top-notch performance, the Super Low Air Suspension is precisely what you're after! It's has threaded damper bodies so you can adjust it to your likening although we always recommend leaving it how it came out of the box. Checkout some of our LS400 videos on our channel.
Novice beginner, 54 bel air , had somewhat close pressures for each wheel, for best control and comfort, shipped vehicle Sat for a while lost notes. Best recommendation on where to start over for max control and comfort, start lower pressures and cruise a bit?
That can depend on the type of damper you use front and rear. With air struts with the bag sealed to the shaft, yes we like to start at a lower pressure and test drive it. With your Bel Air, the same logic should apply, though it will be a lot less sensitive to topping out, compared to a McPherson style setup. That means a broader range of pressures will work comfortably.
Higher the more woblly and less control? Or not exactly @@bagriders
@@eliacasanova4217 Having your control arms parallel to the ground at your ride pressure is a great starting point. Having it a little higher(taller) than that won't necessarily cause wobbliness but will impact your spindle and wheel camber angle. Let us know if you want more info.
Not sure if this is a major or minor issue but my bags need around 60psi just to start lifting the front. I have max load which is a good brand but maybe it’s something with the wiring. I have no leaks and rears are perfect.
I have a Lexus LS 460 so it is heavy
How do I know if my air spring is bottoming out or topping out? Cause when I accidentally hit a small pot hole, I heard a loud-ish thud sound… but I’m following the specs you guys recommend for my GR86. This is on the Super Low suspension and I mainly hear it in the rear.
Air ride is not prone to common bottoming out issues because the PSI pushing your car upward (against gravity and downward forces) becomes increasing strong. Progressive coils springs are like this as well. So I would be with 95% odds that the sound is topping out!
Hey guys. When you say make it stiff, you mean max psi/pressure same as one indicated on the bag? Ex. 100psi Thanks
When discussing 'stiffness,' we're not referring to the maximum PSI. Instead, we define 'stiff' as operating at a pressure higher than the manufacturer's recommended ride PSI. However, even at this elevated pressure, the damper retains its ability to utilize its range of travel.
@@bagriders Good to know . Thank you so much
I wish your shocks had more rebound damping. Mine is super harsh topping out. compression is fine but rebound is terrible
The majority of our suspension offerings boast 30+ way adjustability, providing ample opportunity to tailor your ride precisely to your preferences. Should you desire assistance in optimizing your suspension setup, don't hesitate to reach out to our dedicated customer support team at sales@bagriders.com or call us at 844-404-7344. We're committed to ensuring you're equipped with the ideal pressure settings for your vehicle.
great video.
Hi I’m on airtekk struts and when I go over a bump I hear a noise on the rear struts. When I raise the psi on the rear the noise I hear when going over bumps goes away but when I lower the psi the clunk returns. How can I fix this? Thanks
It seems likely that you are bottoming out your struts. If you can thread them a small amount "shorter" similar to what we do in this video, that would be a good first step.
Badass video!!
What should I do to eliminate the thumping in the suspension 🤔
What sort of thumping? Are you experiencing this at the most extended point in the travel range, or the most compressed point in the travel range? Does it occur over bumps, or all the time?
@bagriders over bumps I'm running airtekk stage 2 plus and 104 in the front and 94 in the rear. The front damper is at 10 and the rear is at 15.
@@RiseOfTheSonata2.0t If it occurs over bumps, you are very likely topping out. You'll need to determine if it's coming from the front or rear.
@@bagriders it's coming from the front the most.
@@RiseOfTheSonata2.0t I would try to thread them up to be a little taller (longer) as shown in the video, and then go for a test drive at a slightly lower pressure.
No wonder why I’m rubbing hardcore. Thank you for this video
Wish I knew this back in 2016. 😅
How would drifting on bags go?
A well configured suspension being operated in the correct travel ranges will work for Motorsport or for daily driving. There's nothing about bags that prevent them from being used for drifting, so go for it!
Thx
I have a full set of air struts that I just can get to ride right at all. Can you guys give me some tips/tricks to get me going?
Try adjusting your pressures in 5PSI increments to see how the car reacts. If you purchased the kit from bagriders.com please reach out to us for the recommended pressures for your air ride kit.
@@bagriders you know I did not buy from you, but I sure wish I had.
Thank you guys for putting out all this information. It’s very useful and appreciated. You guys rock. 🫡👍🏼👍🏼👌🏼💪🏽